[00:00:03] COMPETITION, ALMOST A COMPETITION. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A QUORUM OF PEOPLE WORKING [WORK SESSION / BRIEFING ] TODAY. OKAY. YES. OKAY. WE GOT A QUORUM. SO LET'S GET STARTED AT 6:00 WITH OUR MEETING FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026. WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT INTO OUR WORK SESSION, AND WE'LL START WITH OUR AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU. YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOING THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM SEVEN A IS JUST CONSIDER THE MINUTES FROM THE SPECIAL MEETING ON AUGUST 10TH. IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY OR IF THERE'S ANY AMENDMENTS TO BE MADE. OKAY, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, ITEM SEVEN B IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE FY 20 2027 HOT FUNDS FOR THE SANDRA MEADOWS CLASSIC. IN FACT, AS WE GO THROUGH SEVEN B THROUGH SEVEN F, AS YOU ALL RECALL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE CHANGED WITH HOT FUNDS ADMINISTRATION IS BRINGING ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS TIED TO THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND SO ALL OF THOSE REQUESTS, INCLUDING THE SANDRA MEADOWS AS WELL AS THE HOOP FEST, WHICH IS SEVEN C, SEVEN D, THE GREAT AMERICAN SHOOTOUT, AND 70, WHICH IS THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF BASKETBALL COACHES, AND SEVEN F, WHICH IS THE UNITED STATES SPECIALTY SPORTS ASSOCIATION. THEY ALL SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATIONS UNDER DUE PROCESS BACK IN MARCH AND APRIL. THEY WERE REVIEWED AND VETTED, INCORPORATED INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND THIS WOULD JUST BASICALLY APPROVE THEM CONTINGENT ON THE BUDGET BEING APPROVED. BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST PART OF OUR NEW PROCESS TO BRING EVERYTHING TO YOU ALL UP AT ONCE INSTEAD OF DOING IT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT AN ANGEL DEAL OR TWO REGARDING ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. OKAY, I REAL QUICK ON PAGE FIVE OF ITEM F, LET'S SEE, IS THIS THE FIRST TIME FOR THEM? IT IS. YES, SIR. ANGEL DEAL PROJECT MANAGER. SO THE UNITED STATES SPECIALTY SPORTS ASSOCIATION, IT IS A BASEBALL PROGRAM. THEY HAVE DONE SOME THINGS AROUND IN THE SOUTHWEST AREA, BUT THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED FROM FROM US. OKAY. ON PAGE FIVE OF THAT APPLICATION WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF ROOMS THAT THEY EXPECT TO BOOK, THEY HAVE IN A IN THERE. IS THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW, IT IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW. AND THEY ACTUALLY DO A COMBINATION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS AND HOTEL ROOMS. SO UNTIL WE HAVE THAT NUMBER REALIZED, I TOLD THEM NOT TO PUT ANYTHING THERE. DO DO SHORT TERM RENTALS COUNT AS. YES THEY DO. YES. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S A COMPLIMENT. THANK YOU, MISS BEALE, FOR HAVING PILLARS ACTUALLY, ON THE STAFF REPORT. I ALWAYS REVIEW THE STAFF REPORT AND SELDOM DO I SEE PILLARS DESCRIBED AND DEFINED. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER, FOR ANSWERING THE DATE BECAUSE THERE WAS ONE, I BELIEVE, WITH THE LIONS CLUB THAT HAD A DATE OF MARCH OR APRIL. AND I WAS WONDERING, WHY ARE WE JUST NOW GETTING. BUT YOU EXPLAINED IT THAT WE WERE GOING TO START HAVING THIS IN ADDITION TO THE BUDGET. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE MOVE TO ITEM SEVEN G, WHICH IS CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF A MOTOR VEHICLE CRIME PREVENTION AUTHORITY, OR MVC, FOR FY 2027 CADILLAC CONVERTER THEFT PREVENTION GRANT AND AUTHORIZING THE MATCHING OF FUNDING. THIS IS A GRANT WE DID BRING TO Y'ALL BACK ON MAY 5TH TO GET APPROVAL TO APPLY FOR IT, AND IT WOULD FUND A PORTION OF SOME OF OUR DRONE TECHNOLOGY, AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR LICENSE PLATE READERS. HOWEVER, OVER THE WEEKEND, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HALT FUNDING FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS. HOWEVER, WE DID GET CLARIFICATION TODAY FROM OUR GRANTS COORDINATOR THAT THERE IS A PORTION OF THIS THAT MVC COULD FUND, MAINLY FOR THE DRONE EQUIPMENT, BUT HOWEVER, THE WAY THE ITEM IS CONSTRUCTED AND SPEAKING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY STAFF RECOMMENDS TABLING THIS ITEM TO THE 15TH. LET US GET FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS FUNDED, WHAT'S NOT. AND ALSO, WE WERE GOING TO DO A BRIEFING ON OUR CAMERA PROGRAM OVERALL TO COUNCIL. AND SO STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND TABLING THIS ITEM TO. 915. CHIEF MCCARTY AND CHIEF WILCOX ARE HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY, BUT THAT WOULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION. I'VE GOT A QUESTION THAT I THINK ALL OF YOU COULD ANSWER, AND THAT'S SIMPLY WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE DEADLINE, CORRECT? WE NEED TO MEET A DEADLINE. EVEN IF WE JUST GO FORWARD WITH A PART OF THIS. YES, SIR. WE'RE WE'RE ON TRACK. OKAY. WE'RE ON TRACK. EVEN EVEN PUSHING IT FORWARD TO THE NEXT MEETING. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. SO THE. YES. SO THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER WAS TO SUSPEND FUNDING BY GOVERNMENT AGENCY. SO EVEN IF WE WERE TO APPROVE ACCEPTING THE GRANT, THE GOVERNMENT [00:05:05] AGENCY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO RELEASE THE FUNDS AT THIS POINT ANYWAY. THEY WOULD RELEASE A PORTION OF THE FUNDING THAT WE COULD USE TOWARD DRONE, BECAUSE PART OF THIS, WE WERE GOING TO FUND SOME OF OUR DRONE EQUIPMENT. WE COULD USE IT FOR THAT. BUT THE THE RECOMMENDATION INCLUDES OUR LICENSE PLATE READERS. AND THAT WOULDN'T BE THAT WOULD NOT BE FUNDED UNDER THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER. BUT IT'S NOT SEPARATED OUT HERE. WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK SPECIFICALLY WITH THE REQUEST FOR THE DRONE COMPONENT. AFTER SPEAKING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND ACTUALLY, CHIEF. YEAH, I CAN ADDRESS IT JUST A LITTLE BIT. I, I ATTENDED A MEETING WITH NBC TODAY AND THE DIRECTOR THERE, WILLIAM DIGGS, HE, HE DID EXPLAIN THAT THE, THE FREEZE ON THE FUNDING IS SOLELY FOR THE ALPR TECHNOLOGY. EVERYTHING ELSE, THE DRONES AND EVERYTHING ELSE OTHER AGENCIES HAVE REQUESTED OUTSIDE OF ALPR IS STILL YOU'RE STILL GOOD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, EVEN IF. FOR AGENCIES THAT HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED THE ALPR TECHNOLOGY, THEY CAN STILL SUBMIT THE REQUEST FOR REIMBURSEMENT TO THE MVCPA IT WOULD JUST BE HALTED. THEY WOULDN'T PAY THAT REIMBURSEMENT. RIGHT THEN WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING DOING IS JUST PUSHING THIS BACK TO THE 15. HOPEFULLY, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO IRON OUT SOME OF THE INFORMATION ON EXACTLY WHICH DIRECTION THEY'RE GOING TO GO. AND IF BY THE 15TH THEY DON'T WANT TO, OR THEY HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A A DECISION ON THE ALPR TECHNOLOGY, THEN WE'LL JUST PROBABLY MOVE FORWARD WITH DRUGS ON, OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. MANAGER, NOT GETTING INTO THE PARTICULARS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW THE MECHANICS OF THE GRANT, I'LL DEFER TO YOU ALL ON THIS. MY QUESTION MORE SO IS ABOUT LOOKING FORWARD FROM A BUDGETARY PERSPECTIVE. DO WE HAVE ANY UNDERPINNINGS IN THE GO FORWARD BUDGET THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HEARING TONIGHT OR ANYTHING THAT RELATES TO THIS THAT WARRANTS A SECOND LOOK SHOULD THIS FUNDING OCCUR OR NOT OCCUR, JUST IN TERMS OF PROJECTIONS, JUST FROM A BUDGETARY PERSPECTIVE, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER GRANTS THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO GET ADDITIONAL GRANTS. I THINK THIS GRANT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT WE REALLY IMPACT BASED ON WHAT THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER SAID. BUT. CHIEF MCCARTY, CHIEF WILCOX I THINK THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OTHER BRANDS OUT THERE THAT WE HAVE FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY MY QUESTION. OKAY. MY QUESTION IS BASED ON THIS PARTICULAR GRANT THAT'S UNDER QUESTION. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S BUILT INTO THE GO FORWARD BUDGET THAT WARRANTS A SECOND LOOK? SHOULD THIS GO AWAY, OR IS IT ANYTHING RESTING ON THIS GRANT IN OUR FINANCIAL PICTURE AS WE LOOK FORWARD? NO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THAT THAT WOULD, WOULD, WOULD IMPACT THAT IF THEY YOUR QUESTION. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I JUST MEANT LIKE OTHER GRANTS OR SOMETHING. SO NO, NO NO NO, NO, I JUST AS WE'RE LOOKING AT A BUDGET GOING FORWARD, THIS GRANT, WE'RE AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WERE NO OTHER CONSIDERATIONS FROM A BUDGETARY PERSPECTIVE THAT WE NEED TO SWAP OUT OR THINK ABOUT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE. BUT IF YOU SAY NO, THEN I'M GOOD. YEAH, NO, I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY. CITY ATTORNEY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF TABLING, WE NEED TO DO THIS OUT THERE AND BRING IT BACK. YOU CAN PULL IT WITH THE CONSENSUS OF, OKAY, SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO COUNCIL MEMBER REQUEST TO POSTPONE THIS TO OR TABLE IT TO THE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER THE 15TH. AND SO CONSENSUS, OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. THAT CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO CITY COUNCIL CALENDAR. THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR THE SEPTEMBER CALENDAR. THE WE HAVE THE LABOR DAY HOLIDAY ON THE SEVENTH. WHICH CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON THE 10TH AS THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETING AND THE LIBRARY FRIENDS MEMBER REVIEW FOR THE BOOK SALE. THE BOOK SALE IS GOING TO BE ON SEPTEMBER 11TH AND 12TH. ON SEPTEMBER 11TH. ALSO, WE HAVE THE 911 ROTARY EVENT AT FIRE STATION ONE ON SEPTEMBER THE 12TH IS THE FESTIVAL DE LAS AMÉRICAS, WHICH IS FROM 4 TO 10 AT ARMSTRONG PARK AND ALSO THE CHAMBER CHILI COOKOFF. ON THE 14TH WE HAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING IN A PARK BOARD MEETING. 15TH IS THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THE 19TH IS THE BEST SOUTHWEST HERITAGE HISPANIC HERITAGE FESTIVAL AND DUCK AND SWITCH. THE 21ST IS KEITH DUNCANVILLE. BEAUTIFUL. 22ND IS THE ARTS COMMISSION. 24TH IS COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR. AT 28TH IS THE DC DC MEETING. AND I ALSO WANT TO GET A. TO HAVE A SET, A MEETING DATE FOR [00:10:01] BOARD AND COMMISSION INTERVIEWS, AND THE PROPOSED DATE IS RIGHT NOW WOULD BE THE 17TH. OR WE CAN GO INTO THE FOLLOWING WEEK, EITHER THE 21ST OR 22ND OR THE 24TH. AND I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY COULD PROBABLY DO A MODERN ONE DAY. OKAY, 17TH I PICKED UP ON THAT DATE, BUT IF YOU GOT A CONSENSUS, JUST 24, 2024 YES, I CAN ONLY DO THE 22ND. 22ND. YOU ON THE 22ND. 22ND. OKAY. ANY DAY. 22ND, 22ND. GOOD FOR ALL OF US. OKAY. A COUNCIL. I HAD ONE OTHER REQUEST. IF YOU RECALL, WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS INTERNALLY. YOU ALL WANTED TO DO A WORKSHOP, REALLY KIND OF TOUCH ON WHEN IT WAS THE NAMING, A NAMING ORDINANCE FOR FACILITIES. YOU KNOW, WE BRIEFED YOU ALL ABOUT THAT BACK IN JUNE. TIME FRAME ALSO COMING BACK AND LOOKING AT A BOARDING HOMES ORDINANCE, AND THEN ALSO KIND OF REVISITING YOUR RULES AND PROCEDURES WITH SOME OF THE SUGGESTED CHANGES. WE ARE STILL I WAS TRYING TO FIND A DATE THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY FOR A RETREAT, BUT WE THOUGHT THAT SEPTEMBER 29TH COULD POTENTIALLY BE A DATE TO DO A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO GO THROUGH THOSE WORKSHOP ITEMS. AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING UNTIL OCTOBER 20TH, WE COULD DO THAT DAY. JUST IT WAS ON OUR LIST OF SOME OF THE THINGS Y'ALL WANTED TO WORKSHOP, AND SO WE WANTED TO PROPOSE IT. WE'LL GO AROUND THE TABLE. WE'LL CHECK ON THAT DATE. I'M OKAY ON THAT DATE, BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR WHEN WE CALL, CALL IT A COUNCIL RETREAT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WITH THE ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE ON THERE RIGHT NOW. BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT IS ITEMS ADDED ON WITHOUT THE COUNCIL AGREEING THAT THOSE ITEMS ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THE RETREAT. SO THOSE ARE GOOD BECAUSE YOU'VE TOLD EVERYBODY HERE. BUT AS WE GO ALONG BETWEEN NOW AND THE 2020 NINTH, I JUST DON'T WANT TO ADD ANYTHING. I DON'T WANT STAFF HAD ANYTHING OR MANAGEMENT ADDING ANYTHING UNLESS IT'S BEEN CLEARED WITH US FIRST, THAT IT MERITS OUR TIME FOR THE RETREAT. SURE. AND I HATE TO SOUND ABRUPT ABOUT IT. IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE. IT'S HAPPENED TO RETREAT, JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH THOSE ITEMS. BUT YES. NO. UNDERSTOOD YOUR WORDS, NOT MINE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. ARE WE 29? THE 29TH AND. DID WE HAVE A TIME FOR THE BOARD INTERVIEWS? WE USUALLY START AT FIVE. EVERYBODY GOOD? WHAT TIME SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WOULD BE THE LIKE OUR REGULAR TIME. LIKE 5 OR 6 ON THE 29TH. NO, NO. FOR THE BOARD INTERVIEWS. THE BOARD INTERVIEWS IS FIVE, 5:00 SPECIAL CALLED MEETING, RETREAT, SLASH WORKSHOP, WHATEVER THAT IS. IS THAT IS THAT GOING TO BE LIKE AN ALL DAY THING? WE MEET AT NINE MORE LIKE EVENING, NOT A NOT THE RETREAT. IT WAS JUST A SPECIAL CALL, A SPECIAL CALL MEETING SLASH WORKSHOP. YES. DID THEY GO THROUGH THE ITEMS THAT WERE ON THAT LIST? YES. NOT THE ONLY. WORKSHOP THAT'S STARTING AT FIVE. OR WE CAN START AT FIVE IF THAT'S WHAT IT PREFERS. SIX. WHAT COUNCIL, WHAT TIME WITH THE WITH THE ITEMS YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S YOUR ANTICIPATED TIME? YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY WILL KEEP THE PRESENTATIONS PRETTY SHORT TEN MINUTES EACH, BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE DISCUSSION. BUT AGAIN, THE ITEMS THAT I HAD ON MY MY LIST WAS DEFINITELY THE, THE, THE FACILITY NAMING ORDINANCE, BOARDING HOMES AND THEN JUST BRINGING BACK PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE RULES AND PROCEDURES. I'LL GO AHEAD AND THROW ONE OUT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S JUST. CAME TO ME AS A PHONE CALL AND I THINK IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT WE NEED TO CLOSE THE LOOP ON THE ROOSTER ORDINANCE BECAUSE UP UNTIL NOW, WE FORGOT THAT WE. BUT I REMEMBER THE LOOK ON YOUR FACE, CHIEF, WHEN WE WHEN WE BACKED OFF OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE A FINAL DECISION ON THE ROOSTERS, AND THAT GOT LEFT OUT FOR SOME TIME NOW. BUT WE WANT TO CUT THAT OFF BEFORE IT BECOMES MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW. SO WOULD YOU ALL AGREE THAT WE COULD ADD THAT TO THE LIST? THE DISCUSSION DOESN'T CHANGE. WHAT CAUSED THE MEETING TO STOP WAS WAS CONCERN ABOUT CHICKENS. THE NUMBER OF CHICKENS, WHAT THEIR NAMES ARE, HEIGHT AND WEIGHT. BUT BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ROOSTER PART BECAUSE THAT CAN BE A PROBLEM. IT'S A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW AND I DON'T WANT IT TO GROW IF WE CAN AVOID IT. SO IF I GET ALL YOUR NODS OF APPROVAL TO ADD THAT ONE TO THE LIST, I'D APPRECIATE IT. I'VE ONLY GOT THREE SO FAR. YEAH. YOU'RE OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DID WE EVER SEE THAT TIME? YEAH. OH, THAT'S. [00:15:02] YEAH. THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE 5 OR 6 I THINK IS WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING. FIVE FIVE. OKAY. LET'S GO FIVE. WE'RE GOOD WITH FIVE. I DON'T SEE CHICKEN BOBBIN. OKAY. WELL THE OCTOBER CALENDAR OCTOBER THE 6TH IS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. THERE WOULD BE NO COUNCIL MEETING THAT DAY. THE EIGHTH IS LEADERSHIP. SOUTHWEST IS HAVING THE HUMAN CONNECTION, WHICH WILL BE AT THE HILTON GARDEN INN HERE IN DUNCANVILLE FROM 9 TO 2. AND THERE'S POSTERS UP ABOUT HOW TO SIGN UP OR GET TICKETS FOR THAT EVENT. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS ALSO OCTOBER THE 8TH, PARKS AND REC ON THE 12TH AS WELL AS. LET ME BACK UP AND EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND. I HAVE TO SAY THIS AT THE RISK OF EMBARRASSING SOMEBODY, I'LL SAY IT. THE HUMAN CONNECTION IS A PROJECT FOR LEADERSHIP SOUTHWEST THAT I'VE WORKED ON BY THE ENTIRE GROUP FOR QUITE A FEW MONTHS NOW. AND IN OUR MIDST WAS ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THAT CONVERSATION IN THAT ORGANIZATION, MISS ANGEL DEAL, WHO DID A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK TO PUT THAT PROGRAM TOGETHER. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLIER, PLEASE DO. AND YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST IN WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING, PLEASE SIGN UP AND COME TO IT. IT'S IT'LL BE WORTHWHILE. BUT I CAN TELL YOU, SHE DID A SUPERB JOB IN ORGANIZING ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT PARTS. I WAS ON THE MARKETING TEAM, SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING. BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU SHE LIFTED A LOT OF HEAVY STUFF. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND I HOPE SOME OF YOU WILL FIND AN INTEREST IN. OKAY. OCTOBER 15TH IS A TIFF BOARD MEETING. THE 17TH IS DUNCAN SWITCH. OCTOBER 19TH IS KEITH DUNCANVILLE BEAUTIFUL? OCTOBER 20TH IS THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THE 22ND IS COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR AT THE SENIOR CENTER. 23RD IS THE BOO BASH AT THE FIELD HOUSE AT 6:00 PM. OCTOBER 26TH IS DC DC MEETING AND THE 27TH IS AN ARTS COMMISSION MEETING. HUMAN CONNECTION. OKAY, FOR THE NOVEMBER CALENDAR, OUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING IS IS NOVEMBER THE 3RD. WE HAVE A ZBA MEETING ON THE FIFTH. THE 11TH IS VETERANS DAY. WE ALSO HAVE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON THE 12TH. PARK AND REC IS ON THE 16TH. AS WELL AS PLANNING AND ZONING. THE 17TH IS A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THE 19TH IS A TIF BOARD MEETING. THE 23RD IS A DC DC MEETING AND 24TH IS THE ARTS COMMISSION MEETING. THE 26TH AND 27TH IS THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY. THE CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE BRIEFINGS AND PRESENTATIONS. FIRST ITEM THREE, A BRIEFING ON THE PROPOSED WILDFLOWER PLANTING AT THE CHARLES F LAD NATURE PRESERVE. GOOD EVENING. BART STEVENSON, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, AND I'M THE CHAIR. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN EXCITING PROPOSAL FROM OUR DUNCANVILLE NATURE CONSERVANCY FOLKS TO START WILDFLOWER PLANTING AT THE NATURE PRESERVE. I DID INCLUDE THE ENTIRE PROPOSAL IN YOUR PACKET, SO IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THAT, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT THE PROPOSAL. HOWEVER, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THAT, AS WELL AS JIM JONES, WHO PUT THE PROPOSAL TOGETHER IS HERE TONIGHT TO TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. SO AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT PROPOSING TO PUT WILDFLOWERS ON THE SOUTHERN SAVANNA, WHICH IS ALONG. DANIEL DALE. THAT'S PROBABLY THE AREA OF THE NATURE RESERVE THAT IS SEEN THE MOST BY OUR COMMUNITY. SO IT CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE. THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS WILDFLOWER CITY THIS FALL, HOPEFULLY OCTOBER TIMEFRAME, AND THEY'RE PROPOSING TO FUND THE ENTIRE PROJECT FOR APPROXIMATELY $12,000. THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE CITY TO POSSIBLY COST PARTICIPATE IN ADDING SOME SOME WILD GRASS SEEDS. AND WE DO HAVE THE FUNDING IN OUR BUDGET TO DO THAT. SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE OUR. OUR LAD NATURE PRESERVE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN PLACE YET. WE DID GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS PROPOSAL TO BOTH THE PARK BOARD AS WELL AS KEEP A BEAUTIFUL. MR. JONES DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF PRESENTING TO BOTH THOSE BOARDS, AND BOTH BOARDS DID RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE WILDFLOWER PROJECT. SO THIS IS THE AREA OUTLINED IN YELLOW THERE THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN WILDFLOWER AREA. ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO LOOK LIKE THAT. MR. JONES DID BRING SOME ADDITIONAL PICTURES THAT I SHARED WITH YOU AND PUT IN FRONT OF YOUR PLACE THIS EVENING. ALSO SOME ADDITIONAL PICTURES OF WILDFLOWERS, AS WELL AS A PICTURE OF THE WILD GRASSES AT A DIFFERENT TIME OF THE YEAR. SO THERE WILL BE SOME LEGAL THINGS WE'LL HAVE TO WORK [00:20:01] THROUGH. I KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING A HOLD HARMLESS FOR THEM, AND FINDING SOME THINGS WE HAVE TO DO ON OUR END TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE HAVE SOME SOME COVERAGE AS WELL, LIABILITY WISE, JUST GOING TO GET HURT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE'LL WORK WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEYS AS WELL AS OUR PROCUREMENT GROUP, TO IRON OUT THOSE DETAILS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. SHOULD YOU GUYS, UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ANY KIND OF CONCERNS WITH THIS, THEN WE PLAN ON MOVING FORWARD. UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE ANY CONCERNS AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REAL QUICK, WHAT WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP MINIMIZE THE ANY DAMAGE THAT MIGHT BE DONE BY PEOPLE GOING OUT THERE AND FOUR WHEELERS OR DIRT BIKES WE HAVE, BUT THE POST AND CABLE UP, WHICH HAS HELPED A LOT, THAT STILL DOES NOT PROHIBIT EVERYTHING. BUT WE STILL. IT'S DONE A MUCH BETTER THAN IT WAS. SO REALLY SHORT OF GOING IN AND PUTTING SOME MORE SUBSTANTIVE FENCING IS A LONG, LONG GAME. OKAY, OKAY. WHERE THE CURB CUTS WERE. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH, THOSE ENTRANCES. AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO TRY TO JUMP CURBS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT IT HAS GOTTEN MUCH BETTER FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. OKAY, GOOD, GOOD. YEAH. DID WE GET THE MOWING SCHEDULE ADDRESSED? WE DID OKAY. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO PUT TWICE A YEAR. NOW THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT A LITTLE BIT. THERE'LL BE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE TO DO TO, TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. BUT YES, WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR, OUR FOLKS FEBRUARY AND AUGUST. WE DID ABOUT THREE WEEKS EARLY IN AUGUST BECAUSE OUR CONTRACTOR GOT EXCITED. HE WAS IN TOWN AND THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO GO IN AND KNOCK IT OUT. AND WE WERE A LITTLE BIT EARLY ON THAT THIS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SPEAKING OF THE MOWING SCHEDULE, WHAT IMPACT WOULD THIS PLANNING CHANGE HAVE TO MOWING ONE WAY OR ANOTHER MOVING FORWARD? I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE MUCH. I THINK GETTING THIS GOING. WE MOW IT DOWN TO GET FORWARD TO THE THIS EVENING. OKAY. I THINK IT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. YES. ALL RIGHT. YES. OKAY. YES. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THIS FOR OUR DISCUSSION HERE. SO ON THE PICTURE WE HAVE HERE, THERE'S A TRAIL, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, RIGHT, NOW THAT AREA OFF OF DANIEL DALE, IT'S COMPLETELY INACCESSIBLE FOR PEDESTRIANS. SO IN ORDER TO SEE IT, YOU'D HAVE TO DRIVE BY OR SLOW DOWN OR PARK, WHICH YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO DO ON DANIEL DALE. SO I JUST WANT TO RECOMMEND AS A COMPANION PROJECT TO THIS IS I KNOW WE HAVE ONE OF OUR ONE TIME PROJECT FUND PROJECTS, THE DANIEL DALE TRAIL. I THINK THAT WAS OVER $260,000 FOR THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE AS A COMPANION PROJECT TO. THIS IS FOR US TO BEGIN THE DANIEL DALE TRAIL PROJECT RIGHT THERE ALONG THE LAD PRESERVE, WHICH IS ALSO WHAT THE MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDS IS THAT THERE'S A HARD SURFACE TRAIL ALONG THE SAVANNAH. SO IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO PART OF THE THE PRIORITY LIST THAT WE GOT. SO. DANIEL DALE BIKE HIKE. THAT'S REALLY CITY OF DE SOTO PROJECT THAT EXTENDS TO. WELL, WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS ANY PART OF THIS TRAIL THAT GOES THROUGH HERE, PART OF WHAT WE SAW IN OUR PRIORITY LIST. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO WHERE WERE YOU GOING TO? WELL, SO I'M ASKING MAYBE IF WE COULD COME BACK WITH JUST MAYBE A LOOK AT THE COST OF PUTTING A HARD SURFACE TRAIL ALONG THERE? OKAY, I KNOW WE DID DISCUSS THE DANIEL DALE BIKE HIKE PROJECT, NOT IN DETAIL. AND I'D ALSO ASK ABOUT WORKGROUP ON THAT THAT HADN'T GOTTEN FORMED YET, BUT TO DISCUSS THAT. SO THIS IS WHY I WANTED TO HAVE THAT WORKGROUP SO WE COULD HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN AS A COMPANION PROJECT TO THIS. SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, THE REASON THAT HARD SURFACE IS IT IS GOING TO BE A WALKING OR HIKING AND BIKING TRAIL. OKAY, SO HOW WIDE IS THAT? TEN FEET OR LESS. OKAY. I WOULD ALSO ADD TO THAT IS THAT WE'VE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS IN-HOUSE ABOUT CREATING A TEMPORARY PARKING LOCATION ON THE SOUTH WEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR PARKING IS ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE. YOU'D HAVE TO SOMEHOW CROSS THE CREEK, PROBABLY ALONG THE ROADWAY, TO EVEN GET TO THE SAVANNAH ONCE WE PLANT THE WILDFLOWERS. SO WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS IN-HOUSE ABOUT AND WE CAN DO THAT WITH OUR WITH OUR OWN FUNDING THAT WE HAVE IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. BUT PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER FOR TEMPORARY PARKING SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO ENJOY THESE WILDFLOWER AREAS. AND NOT HAVE TO PARK ON THE ROADS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON MY REQUEST, IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION SOONER THAN LATER ABOUT A HARD [00:25:04] SURFACE TRAIL ALONG DANIEL, TO GO ALONG WITH THIS PROJECT. OKAY, SO YOUR OWN LAND IS. GOING TO ANYTHING ELSE FOR ME. NOW, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE DON'T GET TO WORK. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM B BRIEFING ON OPERATING HOURS AND ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS FOR FOOD TRUCKS. THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF, KURT CASSIDY, YOUR BUILDING OFFICIAL. EXCUSE ME. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. SO WE JUST WANT TO TRY TO CLEAR SOME OF THIS STUFF UP. SO FOOD TRUCKS ARE LEGAL, FUNCTIONAL, SELF-CONTAINED MOBILE KITCHEN THAT OPERATES ON ITS OWN POWER WATER AND COOKING EQUIPMENT. THEY'RE SELF-CONTAINED OPERATION DOES NOT RELY ON EXTERNAL POWER, PLUMBING OR PERMANENT STRUCTURES FOR FOOD PREPARATION OR SERVICE. FOOD TRUCKS ARE DESIGNED TO OPERATE AS SELF-CONTAINED UNITS WITH ONBOARD UTILITIES THAT INCLUDE SEPARATE FRESH WATER, WASTEWATER TANKS, INDEPENDENT POWER SOURCES SUCH AS GENERATORS OR PROPANE SYSTEMS TO SUPPORT FOOD PREPARATION AND COOKING OPERATIONS. FOOD TRUCKS ARE REQUIRED TO RETURN DAILY TO THEIR COMMISSARY TO RESTOCK SUPPLIES, DISPOSE OF WASTE AND FILL FRESH WATER. RIGHT. SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PLUGGING IN TO A FACILITY OR BRICK AND MORTAR WHERE THEY'RE AT. WE RESEARCHED THE ELECTRIC CODE. WE RESEARCHED WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES DO, AND WHAT THE ELECTRIC CODE TALKS ABOUT IS SHORELINE POWER INFORMATION. WHAT I WANT YOU TO KNOW IS THIS IS ACTUALLY DESIGNED FOR BOATS. SO BOATS AT A DOCK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE LIVING IN YOUR BOAT, IT'S SHORELINE. SO THAT'S YOUR ELECTRICAL HOOKUP. OKAY. IT'S GOT TO BE PROTECTED. SO IF WE GO THAT ROUTE, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A SHORELINE TYPE POWER INSTALLATION. OKAY. AND SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT TYPE OF POWER THAT THAT FOOD TRUCK OR FOOD TRAILER UNIT USES IS A 30 AMP. IS IT 50 AMP? JUST KIND OF LIKE YOUR RVS. SO YOU JUST CAN'T GO OUT TO A ELECTRICAL PULL OUT THERE IN THE PARKING LOT AND HOOK UP, HOOK UP SOMETHING. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A CURB CUT TO THE BACK TO THE BUILDING. IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A 30 AMP, A TYPE RECEPTACLE. AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT HERE. SO AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A 30 AMP HOOKUP. THIS IS A 50 AMP HOOKUP. OOPS. YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT AND THIS IS A 110. SO YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THAT LIKE AN RV PARKS AND OTHER THINGS. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO A 30 TO 50 OUT OF THE SAME RECEPTOR. OKAY. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH THIS WAS MAY OF 2026, IT TALKS ABOUT THEY HAVE TO BE READILY ACCESSIBLE, READILY MOVABLE FOOD VENDING VEHICLES IS WHAT THEY'VE CHANGED KIND OF THE NAME OF IT. AND IT SAYS HERE THEY CAN ONLY CONNECT TO UTILITY WHEN THEY'RE FILLING POTABLE WATER TANKS, EMPTYING THE WASTEWATER TANK, OR TEMPORARILY CONNECTING TO AN ELECTRICAL SOURCE. THEY HAVE TO BE EXTERNAL SOURCES ONLY MEANS FOR POWERING. SO. RIGHT NOW, REQUIREMENTS APPLICABLE TO ALL MOBILE FOOD VENDORS. THEY SHALL NOT OPERATE IN A PUBLIC PARK, RIGHT OF WAY, PUBLIC OWNED PROPERTIES, ETC. OUR HOURS 7 TO 10. MONDAY, SATURDAY 10 TO 10 ON SUNDAY. MOBILE FOOD VENDORS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE KNOW RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST REALLY ON BRICK AND MORTAR TYPE FACILITIES. AND THERE'S A CONCERN ON WHERE THEY PARK THEM. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S AN APPLICATION THAT YOU USE. IF SOMEBODY COMES INTO TOWN, THEY HAVE TO GIVE US THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PARKING LOT OR WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO AND SHOW US WHERE IT'S GOING TO SIT. SO WE KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO OBSTRUCT TRAFFIC OR BE A SAFETY HAZARD. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW, THESE ARE SOME OF THE OPERATING HOURS THAT THE OTHER CITIES HAVE. SO CEDAR HILL IS 8 TO 10, DESOTO 7 TO 10, DUNCANVILLE. WE'RE 7 TO 10. SATURDAY 10 TO 10. LANCASTER IS 8 TO 10. AND THEN RED OAK IS 8 TO 10. SO WE RECOMMEND KEEPING WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE ALREADY EXTENDED AN HOUR LONGER THAN WHAT MOST OF THE OTHER CITIES ARE. OKAY. BUSINESS OPERATORS TO FIRE A FOOD TRUCK WITHOUT GAS OR DIESEL GENERATOR, YOU CAN USE SHORE POWER, BUT THAT'S PLUGGING INTO AN EXTERNAL BUILDING OUTLET. ALL BUSINESSES WOULD BE REQUIRED TO INSTALL A 30 AMP AND 50 AMP SOCKET, PERMITTED INSTALLED BY A LICENSED ELECTRICIAN, AND THEN SEND IN A MONTHLY INSPECTION REPORT ON THOSE SOCKETS. IF THEY'RE CORRECT THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ALTERED OR DAMAGED, PEOPLE COULD DRIVE OFF AND YANK THAT PLUG OUT. NOW WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM. ELECTRICALLY, THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT TO THE BUSINESS OWNER. SO THE BUSINESS OWNER WOULD HAVE TO COME IN AND GET ELECTRICAL PERMIT. THEY'D HAVE TO CURB CUT. THEY'D HAVE TO RUN THE POWER LINES UNDERNEATH BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DRIVE OVER THEM. THEY WOULD BE OUT THERE TO BE EXPOSED. SO THAT'S JUST A SAFETY CONCERN. SO STAFF [00:30:06] RECOMMENDS NOT GOING THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL RISK. WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT WE KEEP THOSE HOURS. AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO IS MONTHLY REQUIRE THAT MONTHLY REPORT. IF THEY DO DO THAT, A BUSINESS OWNER SAID THE ELECTRICAL IS CORRECT. IT DOESN'T SHOCK ANYBODY. ANY QUESTIONS I GOT I GOT A COUPLE. SO OKAY, SO THE BUSINESS OWNERS, THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO RUN THAT COST SOMEBODY, I MEAN, WE DON'T. RIGHT? YEAH. SO PROBABLY THE BUSINESS OWNER OR IF THEY WORK OUT A DEAL WITH WHOEVER'S GOING TO RUN THE FOOD TRUCK, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RUN TWO SEPARATE LINES. 131 50 AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE HOOKED TO THEIR PANEL. HOPEFULLY THEIR PANEL CAN HANDLE IT. SO IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXPENSE TO SOMEBODY. YES. AND THEN SECONDLY, THE THE TIME I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE TIME, BUT I, I EAT LATE, DON'T LATE. AND SO I WAS GOING UP TO ONE OF THE TRUCKS ABOUT 945 AND THEY'RE ALREADY SHUT DOWN. AND I ASKED HER WHAT I THOUGHT IT SAID. TEN. THEY SAID, WELL, WE HAVE TO HAVE TO START. WE HAVE TO BE OUT OF HERE BY TEN. SO THAT'S, THAT'S A 45 MINUTES AN HOUR THAT YOU LOST THERE ALREADY. SO I DISAGREE WITH THAT. THAT PART OF IT. DOES IT MENTION IN THERE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS THE I KNOW IT SHUTS DOWN AT TEN, BUT DO THEY HAVE TO BE OFF THE PREMISES BY TEN OR. THAT'S WHAT OUR ORDINANCE THAT'S WHAT OUR ORDINANCE STATES RIGHT NOW. I'VE BEEN GONE. AND THAT'S THAT'S YOUR OPTION TO CHANGE. BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S THAT'S WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. YES, SIR. HOLD ON. HOLD. ALSO ASK TO CHECK ON WHETHER OR NOT THE ORDINANCE IS STILL IN PLACE. THAT USED TO REQUIRE THAT A FOOD TRUCK COULD ONLY OPERATE DURING THE HOURS THAT THE BUSINESS AT THAT LOCATION WERE OPEN, BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY AVAILABLE RESTROOM FACILITIES FOR THE WORKERS IN THE TRUCK. COULD YOU CHECK OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND SEE IF THAT ORDINANCE IS STILL THERE? BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALSO AFFECT THE OPERATING HOURS? CORRECT. AND I BELIEVE IT IS IN ORDINANCE NOW, IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FACILITY DURING THOSE OPERATING HOURS. OKAY. YES. BUT WHAT WE COULD DO IS SAY THEY HAVE STOPPED SERVING THAT THAT WOULD HURT. AND THEN IF THEY NEED TIME TO CLEAN UP AND CLAWS, BEG YOUR PARDON? THE JOB CLAWS. YES, YES. QUESTION. I'M JUST CURIOUS. WHEN I LOOKED AT US COMPARATIVELY TO OTHER CITIES IN THE AREA THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION ON SATURDAY WE ON SUNDAY, RATHER WE HAVE A CARVE OUT THAT STARTS AT TEN. MOST CITIES START AT 8 TO 10 OR 7 TO 10 GENERALLY, BUT WE SEEM TO START AT TEN ON SUNDAY. IS THERE ANY BACKGROUND OR RHYME OR REASON TO THAT? JUST LOOKING AS WHY WE HAVE THIS OPEN AND TAKING A LOOK AT THAT, I SUSPECT IT PROBABLY HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH CHURCH. YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE OR A LOT OF PEOPLE DO GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAYS. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CAN BE TWEAKED IF IF YOU ALL WANT US TO DO THAT. YEAH, I GO TO CHURCH TOO, BUT I'M, I'M, I'M SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT OTHER CITIES AND THEY'RE OPERATING FROM 7 TO 10 OR 8 TO 10 ON SUNDAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE OTHER BREAD 1ST MAY NEED AS WELL. SO SO YOU'RE ASKING TO GET THE HISTORY BEHIND OR TAKE A LOOK AT, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OPERATE A CONSISTENTLY FROM 7 TO 10 MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY OR, OR, OR IF THERE'S SOME COMPELLING REASON, YOUR BREAKFAST BURRITO BEFORE YOU GO TO CHURCH OR RIGHT AFTER, IF YOU GO TO 8:00 SERVICE, YOU MIGHT JUST JUST AND GET RIGHT OUT JUST RIGHT AFTER. SO I'LL BE HUNGRY AS WELL AS MYSELF. SO I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SPREADING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER CITIES AROUND OR DOING AS WELL. SO THAT'S MY TWO. OKAY, I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. MISTER CASEY, COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE THE RISK OF THE 30 TO 50 AMP LINE AGAIN, PLEASE? WELL, YEAH. AS FAR AS ELECTRICAL SHOCK, ELECTRIC ELECTROCUTION, I'VE DONE A LOT OF CAMPING. YEAH. AND I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED I'VE SEEN SOME DAMAGED BOXES OF COURSE, BUT I'VE NOT SEEN A PROBLEM. WELL WE'RE JUST STATING THAT THOSE ARE OUT IN THE OPEN. OKAY. SO EITHER SO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL ASSOCIATION, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE WE HAVE TRAILERS. AND WHEN THERE'S A DISASTER, WE GO OUT AND WE HELP COMMUNITIES. WE'VE TALKED TO LIKE HOME DEPOT AND LOWE'S, AND WE'VE ASKED THEM TO PUT IN SOME RECEPTACLES IN THEIR PARKING LOTS SO WE CAN PLUG OUR TRAILERS IN. BUT YOU GOT TO LOCK THOSE THINGS. THESE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE LOCKED BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT VAGRANTS IN THERE. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE IN THERE. ANYBODY COULD SHOVE THINGS IN THERE AND CAUSE ELECTROCUTION, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHEN WHEN THEY'RE GONE. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO IT AS A RISK FACTOR THAT I KNOW, I KNOW I'VE SEEN PEOPLE AT THE AT THE RV PARKS JUST DRIVE OFF AND NOT UNPLUG THEIR MOTORHOME. THE ONE I BOUGHT, SOMEBODY DID THAT [00:35:05] TO IT. AND SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GOOD FOR THE NEXT PERSON TO COME IN AND PLUG IN TOO. SO I THINK THAT'S JUST LIKE A, A GOOD MAINTENANCE FOR THEM TO REQUIRE THAT BE CHECKED MONTHLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE OPERATING CORRECTLY, THAT THERE'S NO CROSS WIRING. WE HAVE BOXES. I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T SPECIFICALLY STATED LOCK THE BOX, BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SECURE IT. AND ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF SOME OF THE NOISE REDUCTION FROM THE GENERATORS BEING IN THE AREA AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A BENEFIT AND IT PROVIDES SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME OF THESE PLACES TO RUN A LITTLE MORE CLEANER ON SITE. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. 7:00 COUPLE MORE IN THERE. I WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THAT. YOU KNOW, I HEARD YOU SAYING CONFIRMED THAT IT IS IN RELATION TO THE BUSINESS OPERATES. BUT I'M ALSO I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF WHAT MR. DAVIS SAID TO HAVE A CONSISTENT DECEMBER 10TH. BUT I WILL ALSO SAY TYPICALLY ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAYS OR BUSIER TIMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE OUT, THEY NEED TO GO BY WHATABURGER. IF YOU GO BY ANY OTHER PLACES, THEY'RE THEY'RE PACKED AND THEY'RE OPEN TO TWO IN THE MORNING. I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DO TWO IN THE MORNING, BUT I AM SUGGESTING WE CONSIDER EXTENDING THE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. I, I'D SUPPORT MY MY COLLEAGUE IN THAT THINKING. I JUST WAS TRYING TO GET US TO SUNDAY MORNING. SO BUT BUT BUT I BUT I DO THINK THAT TAKING A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY 7 TO 10, YOU KNOW, MOVING UP TO 7 TO 10, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, MIDNIGHT OR SOME OTHER DECENT HOUR TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPETITIVE, PARTICULARLY AS WE THINK ABOUT REACTIVATING CERTAIN SPACES IN THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR, PARTICULARLY AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT OUR OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE WE WANT TO BE WELCOMING. WE WANT WE WANT THEM TO RUN CLEAN TO MR. PENNEBAKER'S POINT, BUT BUT I THINK TO MR. MCBURNEY'S POINT, WE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, TO TO LOOK MORE LONG TERM AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO BE COMPETITIVE IN THAT IN THAT ADVANTAGE. SO YEAH, I SUPPORT THAT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? YES, SIR. SO SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL BE REVISITING THE ORDINANCE AND HOPEFULLY MAYBE MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS. SO MY QUESTION IS, SO ON ONE OF THE SLIDES, THE REFERENCE WAS MADE TO THE STATE REGULATIONS, WHICH 2026, WHICH JUST ENACTED. SO MY QUESTION IS WE HAVE REGULATIONS, BUT. IT'S AT WHAT POINT ARE THE HEALTH PERMITTING PROCESS. IS IT CLEAN? IS IT SANITIZED? THOSE ARE THINGS THE INTERNAL OPERATION. BUT THE LOCATION, TIME AND PLACE, WE STILL KEEP CONTROL. OKAY. SO I GUESS YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M. SO IF YOU GET A PERMIT FROM THE STATE, THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR HEALTH PERMIT. YEAH. SO I'M A LITTLE YEAH, JUST A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE STATE REGULATES AND WHAT THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE CAN REGULATE AS TO WHERE THEY GO AND WHAT THE HOURS OF OPERATION, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, AND WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING NOW ARE THINGS THAT THE CITY DOES. BUT IF YOU GET INSIDE, THEN THAT'S THEIR STATE PERMIT. AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS DALLAS HAD ONE, WE HAD ONE. SO THEY'D HAVE TO GET 8 OR 9 PERMITS IF THEY OWNED THE AREA AND HAD CERTAIN DAYS HERE, CERTAIN DAYS THERE IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS MADE IT ONE STATE LEVEL PERMIT AND WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT. BUT WE GET TO DECIDE WHERE THEY CAN LOCATE IN THEIR TOWN AND WHAT THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION ARE. SO EVERYTHING OUTSIDE THE TRUCK, WE REGULATE EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S A GOOD WAY OF LOOKING INSIDE THE TRUCK STATE OUTSIDE THE TRUCK HOUSE. AND THEN DID YOU WANT SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT SERVICE NEEDED TO CEASE AT TEN VERSUS BE GONE AT TEN? I THINK THAT'S A DISTINCTION TO MAKE WHATEVER TIME WE LAND ON. BUT I THINK SERVICE AND BEING OFF SITE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU'RE JUST CHANGING NUMBER. YEAH. SO WITH THAT, ALSO ALLOW THEM TO SHOW UP EARLY AND PREPARE AND BE READY TO SELL AT SEVEN. I COULD WRITE IT THAT WAY. I THINK SERVICE HOURS BETWEEN 7 AND 10. DON'T FORGET THOSE SERVICE HOURS HAVE TO CORRELATE WITH THE THE BUSINESS HOURS BECAUSE OF THE RESTROOM REQUIREMENTS. YES. YEAH. BECAUSE THERE'LL BE A LOT OF PROMISES. BUT AFTER 10:00, THOSE PROMISES ARE EASILY BROKEN. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU, MR. CASSIDY. [ EXECUTIVE SESSION] APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT TAKES US TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. RECESS, OUR REGULAR [00:40:08] WORK SESSION AT * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.