7.B. Consider a resolution authorizing approval of an expenditure of $236,820 for the Duncanville Community and Economic Development Corporation (DCEDC) to enter into a contract with the Better Block Foundation (501C3) for the design, installation and programming of the "Duncanville Better Block" demonstration project at South Main Street and East Wheatland Road.

[7.B. Consider a resolution authorizing approval of an expenditure of $236,820 for the Duncanville Community and Economic Development Corporation (DCEDC) to enter into a contract with the Better Block Foundation (501C3) for the design, installation and programming of the "Duncanville Better Block" demonstration project at South Main Street and East Wheatland Road.]

CONSIDERATION. AND, AS MR. MCBURNETT SAID IN HIS MOTION, WE'VE MOVED ITEM B CONSIDERATION. CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPROVAL OF AN EXPENDITURE OF 236,820

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FOR THE DUNCANVILLE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH BETTER BLOCK FOUNDATION. I'LL LET THE SPEAKER SPEAK TO WHAT THAT ALL MEANS. GOOD EVENING TO YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGERS, STAFF. MARLON GOFF REPRESENTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND I'M GOING TO START WITH SOME ADDITIONAL INTRODUCTIONS. STARTING ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE CHRISTA NIGHTINGALE WITH BETTER BLOCK FOUNDATION. SHAHID MUHAMMAD, WHILE SHE'S NOT HERE IN PERSON WITH US TONIGHT, I WOULD REFERENCE THE STAFF REPORT THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, BUT FILLING IN THE CAPABLE HANDS OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, MATT BARNES IS HERE TO REPRESENT THE DEPARTMENT. RIGHT.

SO WITH THIS WITH THIS ITEM, I WILL START BY SAYING THE DUNCANVILLE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND ITS JULY 27TH BOARD MEETING, VOTED AND APPROVED, COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT BETWEEN THOSE TWO ENTITIES, THE BETTER BLOCK FOUNDATION AND THE CORPORATION, IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT. THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY INCLUDED AS PART OF THE BUDGET THAT THE DCDC ADOPTED FOR FY 2026, 2027.

WITHIN THAT BUDGET, THERE IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE FUND. AND WITH THAT, IT'S A GOOD CONTEXT. AND SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS CATCH US UP TO SPEED ON SOME OF THE, EXCUSE ME, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK THAT'S UNDERWAY IN THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT PHASE FOR THIS SITE. AND THEN HAND THIS OFF TO THE, THE REST OF THE TEAM THAT WILL BE PRESENTING TONIGHT. OKAY, SO THE MAP SHOWN ON THE SCREEN, 100 EAST WHEATLAND ROAD, THAT'S THE TWO ACRE PARCEL PREVIOUSLY, DALLAS COUNTY TAX OFFICE, RIGHT. WE HAVE AN EXECUTED LETTER OF INTENT AGREEMENT WITH ANOTHER RESTAURANT ATTRACTION PROJECT AND ALSO IN DALLAS AND OAK CLIFF. AND SO THE ACTIVITY HAPPENED WITH THAT PROJECT. AND THIS SITE IS, WE WOULD DESCRIBE IT AS PRE-DEVELOPMENT WORK ALSO WORKING WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. RIGHT? WE'RE HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT SOLICITATION PROCESS TO BRING THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON BOARD BECAUSE THIS PARCEL IS UNPLATTED. RIGHT? SO ALL EXISTED FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES AS THE DALLAS COUNTY TAX OFFICE, THE PROPERTY WAS NEVER BEEN PLATTED. AND SO TO ACTIVATE SOME OF THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS AND PLANS FOR THIS SITE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THROUGH THAT EXERCISE. THE FIRST PART IS, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE.

SIMON ENGINEERING CONSULTANT, THEY'VE BEEN THE FIRM THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED TO HELP US WITH THE PLATTING AND THE CIVIL ENGINEERING, THE PUBLIC UTILITY WORK THAT'S HAPPENING, THE PROJECT. AND SO THEN CONCURRENTLY, THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF, REACHED OUT TO DALLAS BETTER BLOCK TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OFF SITE, CHALLENGES WITH THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION, PARTICULARLY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY REACHED OUT TO BETTER BLOCK THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF TO TALK ABOUT IDEAS FOR IMPROVING SAFETY, PEDESTRIAN ACCESSIBILITY, RIGHT, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND SO HERE'S A ILLUSTRATION OF THE CONCEPTUAL REPLAT, RIGHT, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON ON THE SITE. AGAIN, IT'S CURRENTLY NOT PLATTED. IT'S A, YOU KNOW, SINGLE STORY BUILDING SITUATED IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PARCEL. BUT WHAT ALSO AFFECTS THE REDEVELOPMENT USE OF THIS SITE IS THE INVISIBLE UNDERGROUND PUBLIC UTILITIES, RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF SOME OF THE WORK WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING CONCEPTUALLY. WE WOULD PLAT THIS PROPERTY INTO THREE LOTS, RIGHT? AS OPPOSED TO THE ONE LOT IN THE CENTER LABELED LOT TWO IS THE OBVIOUSLY THE CURRENT STRUCTURE VACANT THERE. AND THAT'S WHERE THOSE PIZZA AND DELI UNDER THIS LAW AGREEMENT, WE'RE WORKING ON LOT ONE DEPICTED ON THE SCREEN.

HERE'S WHERE WE HAVE THE BETTER BLOCK ACTIVATION ZONE RIGHT IDENTIFIED. AND THEN CERTAINLY ANOTHER PHASE TO THE EAST. LOT THREE. AGAIN, WE'VE GOT SOME CONCEPTUAL FRAMEWORKS OF RENDERING HIGH LEVEL EXPLORATORY CONCEPTUAL USE. WHAT WE DO KNOW, PHASE ONE WILL BE KENZO'S THE ACTIVATION, THE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THAT PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, LOT ONE, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BASED ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO AS A, AS A COMPANY OR ORGANIZATION TO KIND OF TEST CONCEPTS, PLACEMAKING AROUND THAT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRAFFIC SAFETY, ETC. SO I WANTED TO UPDATE YOU GUYS ON THAT AND THEN ALLOW FOR A HANDOFF TO CHRISTA WITH BETTER BLOCK, WHO'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY PARTNER AGREEMENT.

THAT WE'VE BRIEFED THIS, THIS BOARD ON THIS COUNCIL AND THE DCC APPROVE AT THEIR LAST MEETING. OKAY. WITH THAT, KRISTA, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

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THIS EVENING, I DO NOT HAVE A MILLION SLIDES FOR YOU. I'VE TONED IT DOWN THIS TIME. BUT I AM, KRISTA. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BETTER BLOCK, WHICH IS AN URBAN DESIGN NONPROFIT. AND SO WITH THIS PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, WE ARE LOOKING AT TWO THINGS WITH THIS PROJECT. ONE IS ACTIVATING THE SITE, AS MARLON JUST EXPLAINED, KIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT IS IT THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR HERE IN THIS SPACE? WHAT KIND OF DRAWS FOLKS TO THE AREA? BUT THE OTHER THING WE'RE LOOKING AT IS MAIN STREET AND CREATING A CONNECTION INTO DOWNTOWN AND REALLY LOOKING AT, CAN WE MAKE THIS A SPACE THAT IS A BIT MORE PLEASANT TO NAVIGATE AND PERHAPS WALK, PERHAPS TAKE A BIKE TO GO FROM THIS SITE INTO DOWNTOWN. AND OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL BE PICKING UP THE AMAZING ASSET THAT IS ARMSTRONG PARK AND LOOKING AT HOW WE CREATE THAT AS A NODE OF ACTIVATION AS WELL. SO ON THE SCREEN ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE'VE DONE. WE DO NOT HAVE DESIGNS. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THAT THIS EVENING BECAUSE A BIG PART OF OUR PROCESS IS LISTENING TO FOLKS FIRST AND GETTING AN IDEA OF WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE DESIGN PROCESS, AND THEN WE'LL BEGIN ORGANIZING, AND THEN WE WILL BRING IT ALL TO LIFE WITH THE COMMUNITY OVER THE COURSE OF JUST A FEW DAYS. VERY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT THE TEEN COUNCIL, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE LAUNCHING IN SEPTEMBER, I FEEL LIKE THERE COULD BE SOME REALLY NICE OVERLAP NOT TO PUT MORE WORK ON ANYONE. BUT I THINK THAT COULD BE A REALLY INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY. SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A VIDEO FROM A PROJECT THAT WE DID LAST YEAR. IT ACTUALLY WRAPPED UP IN FEBRUARY IN IRVING. SO A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPROACH, BUT REALLY LOOKING AT ONE BLOCK IN DOWNTOWN IRVING AND THIS ONE WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT VACANT SPACES, BUT ALSO FOCUSING ON THE STREET. NOPE, NOPE. SORRY, SORRY.

A LITTLE BIT LOUDER, I APOLOGIZE.

THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS HOW QUICK WE DID THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, NOT FROM THE PART OF, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH OUR FORMAL PROCESSES AS A CITY. BUT ONCE WE GOT CONTRACT SIGNED, SEALED, DELIVERED 120 DAY PLANNING PROCESS. FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S VERY QUICK, VERY QUICK FOR US. SO WORKING WITH BETTER BLOCK HAS BEEN GREAT TO HELP EXPEDITE THAT AND SPEED THAT ALONG. BUT I WOULD SAY HOW QUICK WE'RE MOVING. AND WE SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO TAKE THAT APPROACH SO PEOPLE KNEW THAT, HEY, THIS ISN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, A PLAN. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE WE'RE MOVING QUICK.

WE'RE OUT HERE ON THE GROUND. WE WANT YOU GUYS TO SEE IT. THE CONCEPT OF THE LIVING STREET ON IN DOWNTOWN IRVING. SO WHAT WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO DO WAS ULTIMATELY, YOU SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC AND YOU MAKE THE SPACE SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS TO BE THERE. SO THE STREET ITSELF WAS QUITE WIDE AND THEN IT HAD PARKING ALONG THE EDGES. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK SOME OF THAT SPACE AND WE USED PAINT, AND THEN WE USED BARRIERS TO CREATE THIS MOVEMENT. THE CHICANE MOVEMENT. PUTTING TOGETHER THE DESIGN OF DOWNTOWN IRVING WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

LIKE THERE WERE SOME OBVIOUS THINGS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE WANTED TO DO A BEER GARDEN.

WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WE BROUGHT IN OUR BETTER BLOCK IN A BOX CONCEPT, WHICH IS A SHIPPING CONTAINER THAT WE CUSTOMIZE FOR THE SPACE. IT'S GREAT FOR STORAGE, BUT THEN WHEN WE HAD ACTIVATIONS, YOU COULD BRING EVERYTHING OUT AND IT WAS A POP UP SPACE SO WE COULD TEST OUT A BREWERY IN THERE. WE HAD A COFFEE SHOP IN THERE. IT WAS SANTA LETTER WRITING STATION AT ONE POINT, SO WE COULD TEST DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THAT CONCEPT. THIS WEEK WE HAD OVER A HUNDRED VOLUNTEERS AND WE EVEN HAD SOME KIDS, ADULTS OUT HERE, REALLY PAINTING THIS MURAL OUT HERE. AND IT, IT ALL GETS TOGETHER, UNIQUELY IN A WAY. AND YOU ALSO GET THESE LOCAL VENDORS, LOCAL PERFORMERS, AND IT ALL STARTS TO CREATE COMMUNITY. YOU GET TO

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RUN INTO YOUR NEIGHBORS OUT HERE. YOU GET TO RUN INTO LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT YOU NEVER EVEN HEARD OF, AND IT'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'S KIND OF REALLY, REALLY COOL TO SEE. WHEN THE PEN FROM THE PAPER GOES OUT INTO THE STREET, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST LIKE REALLY COOL TO SEE THAT. RIGHT? SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE BUDGET, I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU ALL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. THIS INCLUDES EVERYTHING, THE MARKETING ELEMENTS, ALL THE MATERIALS THAT WOULD BE USED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION IN THIS IN THE SITE. AND OF COURSE, ALL OF THOSE MATERIALS WOULD REMAIN WITH YOU ALL SHOULD YOU WANT TO DO A BETTER BLOCK IN A BOX, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. IN THE CONCEPT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALSO REMAIN AND THEN IT COULD BE MOVED AROUND AS WELL. TIMELINES. WE LOVE OUR TIMELINES AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE QUICKLY AND WITH THE GOAL OF HAVING IT ALL INSTALLED BY MID NOVEMBER, SO THAT WE CAN REALLY CAPTURE THE EXCITEMENT OF THE HOLIDAYS, AND REALLY DO SOME ACTIVATIONS THROUGHOUT THAT AND THEN CONTINUE THAT ACTIVATION INTO THE NEW YEAR AS WELL. SO THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE AT THIS MOMENT.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. I'M GOING TO JUMP IN BEFORE MR. DAVIS. HE'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE. MARCH QUICK. I I'M THE ONE WHO REQUESTED THAT THIS BE REMOVED TO MOVE TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION SIMPLY BECAUSE, I KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME IN, IN A BRIEFING. AND AS IT TURNS OUT, IT WAS WORSE THAN I THOUGHT. SO MY, MY REASON FOR DOING THIS WAS, I LOOKED AT THE PROJECT, I LOOKED AT THE OTHER PROJECTS YOU'VE DONE ELSEWHERE. I'VE TRIED TO FAMILIARIZE MYSELF WITH WHAT IT IS THAT THIS BRINGS AND DOES. IT'S DESCRIBED IN THE STAFF REPORT AS A PILOT PROGRAM AND THAT IT'S TEMPORARY. AND THAT LEADS ME TO LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM LINE FIGURE FOR A TEMPORARY PROGRAM. $236,820 REQUEST. I REALIZE IT'S DC, DC MONEY, AND NOT OURS, BUT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE IT. AND IN THIS DAY AND AGE, I WANT TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT RELEASING, OR CONTRIBUTING TO THE RELEASE OF THESE TYPES OF FUNDS OR APPROVAL, WITHOUT A LITTLE BIT OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE COME TO THESE TOTALS. NOW, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB IN THE PROJECT BUDGET. IF WE CAN GO BACK TO, I THINK IT WAS PAGE SEVEN. OKAY. SO I SEE, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND STAKEHOLDER COORDINATION 63,350.

AND I'M NOT REALLY PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT TO BREAK THIS DOWN TO DOLLARS. BUT WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT INVOLVE IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND STAKEHOLDER COORDINATION? YEAH.

SO TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, A LOT OF THAT IS THE ORGANIZING OF EVERYTHING AND THE 120 DAY PROCESS LEADING UP TO THE INSTALLATION. SO ALL OF THE STAFF TIME WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, WORKING WITH CITY STAFF, AND THEN PUTTING ALL THE DESIGN CONCEPTS TOGETHER, GOING THROUGH PERMITTING, AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING ORGANIZED AND GATHERED AS WE GO. PART OF THAT TOO IS ALSO MARKETING IS INCORPORATED IN THAT LINE ITEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY BANNERS ON THE SITE, FLIERS TO GO OUT, MAILERS TO GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. VIDEOGRAPHY, PHOTOGRAPHY, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS TO A BIG PART OF THIS WORK IS THE STORYTELLING AND BEING ABLE TO SHOW KIND OF WHAT WAS DONE IN THIS PROCESS. I LOVE THE QUESTION ABOUT TEMPORARY. IF I CAN GO BACK TO THAT FOR A SECOND, WE GET IT A LOT AND I UNDERSTAND IT. WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT HOW TEMPORARY ERASES THE FEAR OF PERMANENCY. SO ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT STREETS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY REALLOCATING SPACE TO PEOPLE IN A LOT OF THE CITIES WE WORK WITH, THAT'S A VERY SCARY CONCEPT THAT MAKES PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE. BUT THAT'S WHY WE LIKE TO TEST IT OUT AND KIND OF SHOW PEOPLE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLOCATING IN THIS WAY. AND THEN THEY GET TO EXPERIENCE IT. THEY GET TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHY. AND THAT GOES A LONG WAY TO INFORMING THE PERMANENT AND MAKING IT PERMANENT. WE JUST CELEBRATED OUR TEN YEARS. AND TO THE QUESTION ABOUT WHY TEMPORARY, WE LOOKED BACK AT SOME OF THE 145 PROJECTS WE'VE DONE, AND WE SAW THAT 73% OF THEM HAVE BECOME PERMANENT, AND WE'VE CATALYZED MORE THAN 700 MILLION IN GRANTS, FEDERAL GRANTS THAT FOLLOWED THE PROJECTS AFTERWARD. OKAY, WELL, JUST TO ASK A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS TO HELP ME WITH MY UNDERSTANDING. AND I MEAN, I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL WHAT THE PICTURES THAT WE'VE SEEN, AND I THINK IT'S AN ARTIST'S RENDERING OF WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE HERE. MATERIALS AND CITY OWNED ASSETS. I GET THE MATERIAL PART, CITY OWNED ASSETS. WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S THOSE WILL BE MATERIALS AS WELL. SO THAT IS ALL STUFF

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YOU ALL OWN AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. SO WHILE THE INITIATIVE IS TEMPORARY, THOSE ELEMENTS AREN'T NECESSARILY. SO AGAIN, IF WE DO A CONTAINER, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL OWN AFTER THIS PROJECT IF YOU WANT TO. AND SO WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH STAFF BEFORE WE OFFICIALLY PURCHASE ANYTHING. THAT COULD ALSO INCLUDE BENCHES. IT COULD INCLUDE PERGOLAS OR KIOSKS. AND THEN ALSO ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD NEED FOR THE ROAD AS WELL, WHETHER THAT'S FLEXI STICKS OR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT ELEMENTS LIKE THAT BOLLARDS TO KIND OF DELINEATE THE SPACE. WELL, THAT HELPS EXPLAIN THE, I'M SORRY, YOUR MIND MAYBE UP A LITTLE BIT.

THAT HELPS EXPLAIN THE, $76,000 PORTION OF THIS. LAST ONE THAT I HAVE IS THE CONTINGENCY. I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO DO THE MATH RIGHT NOW, EMBARRASS MYSELF, BUT IT TYPICALLY WE SEE 10% CONTINGENCY. THIS IS HIGHER THAN THAT. YEAH. THIS IS TO COVER IN CASE THE FLEXI STICKS GET HIT OR WE NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES WHILE THIS PILOT IS UP FOR THE SIX OR SO MONTHS. THIS ALSO MIGHT BE IF YOU WANT TO DO A BIGGER EVENT DURING THOSE SIX MONTHS, WE COULD GO INTO THAT.

MY GOAL IS TO NOT TOUCH THOSE DOLLARS. MY TEAM IS VERY GOOD ABOUT BUDGETS. AND SO WE USUALLY ALLOCATE STUFF AND SET IT ASIDE. SO MY GOAL IS TO NOT EVEN DIP INTO THAT. BUT I UNDERSTAND WE'VE GOT IT IN THIS BUDGET. SO IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. BUT THAT'S REALLY A BUT WE DON'T GET A CASE SCENARIO. DO IT. WE DON'T GET IT BACK. IT'S PART OF THE TOTAL COST. OKAY. YES. NO. NORMALLY THE WAY WE DO THINGS IS WE ONLY CHARGE FOR HARD COSTS. SO IF I DON'T TOUCH YOUR CONTINGENCY, I'M NOT GOING TO CHARGE YOU CONTINGENCY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, IT'S GETTING BETTER. YEAH. SORRY. THAT'S IT'S WE'RE NOT WE'RE VERY WE'RE VERY CAREFUL.

AND LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS, WHAT KIND OF DATA DO YOU COLLECT? BECAUSE THAT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL THAT THIS IS ABOUT COLLECTING DATA. YES. SO IT'S IT ALWAYS DEPENDS ON THE PROJECT. BUT ON THIS ONE, LOOKING AT THE STREET ITSELF, WE'LL PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT TRAFFIC SPEEDS. YOU KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE NAVIGATING THE SPACE. ARE THERE SPACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE RUNNING ACROSS THE STREET, WALKING ACROSS THE STREET? SHOULD A MID-BLOCK CROSSWALK BE CONSIDERED IN CERTAIN AREAS? WE'LL BE WATCHING KIND OF JUST HOW FOLKS USE THE SPACE. FOR THE ACTIVATION, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IF WE HAVE MARKET VENDORS, HOW DID THEY DO? WHICH ONES WERE DOING BETTER VERSUS OTHERS? CAN WE TEST OUT DIFFERENT ITEMS? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SHOWING UP, WHICH IS IMPORTANT. BUT WE KIND OF DEFINE THE DATA BASED ON THE GOALS OF THE PROJECT. SO ON THIS ONE, WE'RE NOT THAT DEEP INTO IT YET, BUT AS WE DO, WE'LL KIND OF BE WORKING THROUGH THOSE DATA POINTS. I CAN TELL YOU FOR IRVING, WE WERE REALLY LOOKING AT, HOW THE VENDORS WERE DOING. THE PARKING WAS A BIG THING FOR THEM BECAUSE WE DID REALLOCATE A LOT OF PARKING SPOTS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, REGISTERING COMPLAINTS AND WHAT DID PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT, WHICH IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY FEW. SO WE'LL BE CAPTURING ANY OF THOSE ELEMENTS. HOWEVER, IF THERE IS SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR THAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING FOR AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT, WE ARE WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DOES IT FOR MY QUESTIONS, MR. DAVIS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. JUST REALLY ACTUALLY BRIEFLY. MY MY QUESTION IS, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE NEXUS, KIND OF THE SUCCESS, THE SUCCESS NEXUS BETWEEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE KIND OF COME OUT OF I KNOW YOU MENTIONED SOME 145 PROJECTS, 75% OF THEM KEPT THEM. COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SUCCESS AND THE NEXUS BETWEEN HOW WE KIND OF START HERE AND WHAT WE LEARN AND THAT FEEDBACK LOOP IN TERMS OF FUTURE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES? YES, I ANSWER IN PROJECT STORIES, SO I HOPE THAT'S OKAY. ONE IS A PROJECT THAT WE DID IN AKRON, OHIO SEVERAL YEARS AGO AS PART OF THAT ONE, THE STREET WE FOCUSED ON, THEY WERE LOSING A LOT OF BUSINESSES. THE SCHOOL WAS SHUTTING DOWN AND PEOPLE WERE LOSING HOPE. AND SO WE DID ONE OF OUR INITIATIVES, WE TESTED OUT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS. THE BLOCK CAPTAIN, WHICH IS OUR CORE VOLUNTEER, SHE ENDED UP AFTER THAT PROJECT QUITTING HER JOB. SHE STARTED A CDC IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AFTER FIVE YEARS, SHE HAD BROUGHT IN $1 MILLION IN CHANGES, WHICH THEY IMPLEMENTED ALL THE ROAD CHANGES. WE HAD RECOMMENDED, 14 NEW BUSINESSES AND UPDATED 13 FACADES. SHE IS NO LONGER WITH THE CDC BECAUSE SHE'S NOW A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. BUT THE CDC STILL CONTINUES.

AND THEY WERE ABLE TO CONVINCE A SCHOOL TO COME BACK. AND THEY'VE GOT A $62 MILLION AGREEMENT AROUND CREATING THAT SCHOOL. MORE RECENTLY, I WAS JUST TALKING TO SOMEONE IN TULSA THAT WE WORKED WITH TWO YEARS AGO, AND WE DID KIND OF A SIMILAR INITIATIVE. WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF THE STREET AS PART OF IT, BUT REALLY A LOT ACTIVATION TO KIND OF TEST OUT WHAT DO PEOPLE WANT TO SEE HERE AND WHAT WOULD COME. HE TOLD ME THEY HAVE OFFICIALLY BECAUSE OF THAT, ONE OF THE LOCAL FOUNDATIONS PURCHASED THE LAND IN THIS SPACE, AND THEY HAVE

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BEEN BUILDING OUT SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE PROPOSED AS PART OF THAT. AND THEY'VE REALLY SOLIDIFIED THE, IT WASN'T A CDC, I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THAT'S ESTABLISHED THERE. AND A BIG PART OF IT TOO, WAS CONTINUING THE TRAIL THAT THEY HAD STARTED WORKING ON. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, BUT WE YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S INSIGHTFUL. AND I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION FOR YOU IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE COMING OFF THE HEELS OF IS JUST PASSING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND WITHIN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE ASPIRE TO ENCOURAGE WALKABILITY. WE INSPIRE TO REIMAGINE OUR DOWNTOWN SPACE. WE RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR, CAPACITY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, BRINGING ON NEW THINGS. AND WHAT DOES THAT REQUIRE IN TERMS OF REIMAGINATION OF EXISTING USES? SO WHEN YOU TAKE ALL OF THAT, COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE AND HOW POTENTIALLY THIS, FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE WOULD HELP INFORM US? BECAUSE WHEN WE BECAUSE WE ASPIRE AND WE'RE INSPIRED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS IN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THEN THERE'S A REALITY ON THE GROUND THAT SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL AN INDIVIDUAL, PERSON GOES INTO THAT OR COULD, COULD YOU JUST COULD YOU JUST PROVIDE SOME EDUCATION AND SOME INSIGHT TO US FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW AS WELL, THINKING THAT WE'RE JUST COMING OFF THE HEELS OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED THE QUESTION ON THE LAST PART THERE, WHERE IT'S WHEN YOU GET ON THE GROUND AND YOU REALLY SEE HOW PEOPLE ARE USING THIS SPACE, THAT INFORMATION IS SO VITAL. WE JUST DID A PROJECT IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS. I LIVE IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS, INSTALLING A MURAL ON THE ON THE ROAD FOR THREE DAYS.

I LEARNED SO MUCH MORE ABOUT MY NEIGHBORS THAN I HAD IN MY 15 YEARS OF LIVING THERE. SO IT'S, IT'S JUST DIFFERENT WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE ON THE STREET AND YOU'RE IN THESE SPACES AND YOU'RE REALLY WORKING IN THEM. SO, WHAT WE WILL PROBABLY GET OUR WHOLE PROCESS IS ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND WE TRY TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE. SO WE'LL START OUT WITH SURVEYS.

WE'LL START OUT WITH CHARRETTES. AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF EXPECTED. BUT THEN IT'S REALLY THAT CORE TEAM THAT WE FORM. IT'S PLANNING AND ORGANIZING ALL OF THIS STUFF.

BUT TRULY, WHEN WE START GETTING PEOPLE IN AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, IT'S DURING THAT INSTALLATION, THE 3 TO 4 DAYS WHERE PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE ALL PAINTING, BUILDING, AND JUST USING THE SPACE TOGETHER. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU HEAR A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, I ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE THIS OR I THINK THIS WOULD BE REALLY SUCCESSFUL HERE. I'VE GOT THIS IDEA AND THAT IS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GATHERING ALONG WITH THE DATA, BUT ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AS WELL TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL. MAYOR PRO TEM PENNEBAKER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MISS NIGHTINGALE.

APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK WE DID SOMETHING WITH BETTER BLOCK MAYBE 15 YEARS AGO. IT WAS BEFORE MY TIME. BUT YES, JASON ROBERTS AND JASON ROBERTS, IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY. AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS A CITY. IT WAS IT WAS INDIVIDUALS. SOME OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESS LEADERS GOT TOGETHER AND THEY DID THIS POP UP AT COX FARMS AND WE HAD A MOVIE NIGHT. I SAY THAT I HELPED BY MAINLY JUST STAYED OUT OF THE WAY. IT WAS A FINE RUNNING MACHINE, BUT Y'ALL BROUGHT IN THEIR STOCK TANK FOR A SWIMMING POOL AND PEOPLE WERE COOKING HOT DOGS. IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. SO IT'S KIND OF CURIOUS TO SEE THIS COME BACK. AS FAR AS THE ACTIVATION, WHO HANDLES THAT? WHEN DO YOU DO IT? WHAT COULD WE EXPECT TO SEE WITH THAT? YEAH. SO THE ACTIVATION, OFFICIALLY LAUNCHES SHOULD, YOU KNOW, WE MOVE FORWARD. THE GOAL IS TO OFFICIALLY LAUNCH NOVEMBER 14TH. SO MY TEAM MANAGES MANY OF THE DETAILS. HOWEVER WE WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH CITY STAFF, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY HAD A FEW JUST INITIAL CALLS AND THEY HAVE BEEN AMAZING TO WORK WITH. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE TEAM THAT'S HERE THAT WE WOULD GET TO WORK WITH. AND THEN AS FAR AS WHAT'S GOING ON AFTER THAT, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO MANAGE THAT. BUT OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE STEWARDS OF THE SPACE AND FOLKS WHO HAVE ALWAYS SAID, I WANT TO DO THIS THING, I'D LIKE TO TEST IT OUT. WE'RE KIND OF CREATING THE GROUNDWORK SO THAT THEY CAN, AND WE'RE THERE TO HELP, MAKING SURE PERMITS ARE BEING ACQUIRED AND THE RIGHT THINGS ARE BEING DONE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO HELP GUIDE WE DON'T DO STOCK TANKS ANYMORE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING MAYBE IF YOU WANTED TO BRING BACK. BUT OUR GOAL IS TO REALLY JUST CREATE THE GROUNDWORK AND KIND OF LET PEOPLE ADD TO IT AND MAKE IT UNIQUE AND SPECIAL AND INFORM THE LONG TERM. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S IT. YOU ANSWERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS, DURING THE PRESENTATION AS FAR AS THE SUCCESS AND 70% PLUS BECOME PERMANENT INSTALLATIONS. SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, MR. KOONTZ. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO SOME OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN BEEN ANSWERED AND SOME ARE QUESTIONS AND SOME ARE JUST GENERAL COMMENTS FOR MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COUNCIL. BUT, YOU KNOW, I NOTICED SO ONE OF

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THE FIRST THINGS YOU GUYS DO IS SELECT A LOCATION, A SITE. SO, WHEN, WHY WAS THIS PARTICULAR SITE SELECTED AND WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THAT SELECTION PROCESS? YES. THANK YOU. SO WE WORKED, HAD REACHED OUT TO US ORIGINALLY AND WAS ASKING ABOUT SOME OF THE TRAFFIC CALMING INITIATIVES THAT WE COULD LOOK AT. AND THEN MARLON WAS QUICKLY BROUGHT INTO THE CONVERSATION AS WELL. SO WE TOOK AN AFTERNOON AND WE WALKED AROUND TO A COUPLE DIFFERENT SITES. I DID LIKE THE SITE AT WHEATLAND AND MAIN BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT WAS A REALLY GOOD ANCHOR POINT, AND IT WOULD BE A REALLY NICE ACTIVATION POINT FOR US. AND THEN WE'VE GOT MAIN STREET CONNECTING INTO DOWNTOWN, AND I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION AND MAKE THAT A LITTLE MORE FRIENDLY. FOR FOLKS TO, YOU KNOW, WALK THROUGH. WE ALSO LOOKED AT THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE ON WHEATLAND AND MAIN, AND WE'RE DOING SOME INTERSECTIONS IN DALLAS. AND I FEEL LIKE THIS ONE IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD REALLY ADDRESS. AND THE MORE I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE ASSETS THAT YOU HAVE OVER HERE AND THE COFFEE SHOP AND THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE COMING IN AND JUST MAKING THAT CONNECTION POINT A BIT EASIER FOR FOLKS. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO YOUR CAR TO JUST GO ACROSS THE STREET. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, AND MR. DAVIS BROUGHT UP THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND I KNOW WHEN, WHEN WE TALK TO CITIZENS AND, AND WE ASK THEM WHAT WOULD THEY LIKE TO SEE? AND THEY TALK ABOUT REVITALIZING DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE AND REIMAGINING DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE. AND I BELIEVE MOST OF US RECOGNIZE I BELIEVE WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS HUB DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE. THE DOWNTOWN STRIP BETWEEN CARTER AND CENTER AND, AND SO, AND THE EXAMPLE YOU SHOWED US WAS DOWNTOWN IRVING. RIGHT. I, YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF WITH THE MAYOR. I, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A $1 BILLION BUDGET LIKE THE CITY OF IRVING HAS. I THINK, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DOING SOMETHING, TEMPORARY, BUT AS FAR AS REIMAGINING SPACES, YOU KNOW, I COULD SEE A LOT OF THIS HAPPENING IN THE DOWNTOWN PROPER AREA. BUT, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO ADD. SO ACTUALLY I LEARNED SOMETHING AND MR. GOUGH, WHEREVER HE IS, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR HIM. SO THIS IS THE CDC. THERE'S A FUNDING MECHANISM. YOU MENTIONED THE INFRASTRUCTURE FUND, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE FUND. AND SO THIS THIS 236,000 WOULD COME OUT OF THAT, CORRECT? YEAH. WE ADDED AS PART OF OUR BUDGET FOR THAT ITEM, $300,000. AGAIN, ALMOST, I WOULDN'T DESCRIBE IT AS A PILOT PROJECT, BUT BUT TARGETING NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, RIGHT? THAT MAY HAVE SOME EITHER OFF SITE OR ON SITE INFRASTRUCTURE, INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES. RIGHT. AND SO YEAH, THAT WAS THE PROPOSED SOURCE TO FUND THIS COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT. AND SO YES, CORRECT. THAT IS THE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THIS DEMONSTRATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO SO I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW TONIGHT AND THAT THAT FUND COULD GO TOWARD PASSIVE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS, SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS, STREET IMPROVEMENTS, THE ACTUAL PAYING FOR THE ACTUAL IMPROVEMENTS THEMSELVES. YEAH. AND JUST LIKE WITH ANYTHING THAT THE PRECURSORS ARE, IS GOING TO BE LIKE, LIKE THE DESIGN AND, YOU KNOW, THE SURVEYING AND ANALYSIS, BUT, BUT ALSO, AGAIN, FIRST YEAR, BUT COULD THEORETICALLY BE A CONTINUATION, RIGHT, OF AN ANNUAL COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT, YOU KNOW, TOOLKIT TO ADD TO SOME OF THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVES OR FUNDING SOURCES WE HAVE FOR VARIOUS PROJECTS AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE DIFFERENT AND THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO, I'M GLAD TO LEARN ABOUT THAT, THAT FUND, THAT MONEY THAT'S SET ASIDE FOR THAT. AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AREA, AREAS THAT WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT, WHERE SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS ARE NEEDED, WHERE CONNECTIONS TO NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORHOODS CAN BE MADE AND WALKABILITY CAN BE INCREASED. AND WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED SOME POTENTIAL PROJECTS WHERE THAT, THAT FUND FUND COULD GO TOWARD THOSE PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS IMMEDIATELY. AND SO LEARNING ABOUT THAT FUND, I'M, I'M MORE INCLINED AT THIS POINT TO START TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE, OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. THE TRAFFIC CALMING. DO Y'ALL HAVE ENGINEERS THAT, THAT Y'ALL WORK WITH OR THAT YOU HAVE ON STAFF ENGINEERS WORK WITH ENGINEERS. WE DON'T HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON STAFF, BUT WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENT. SO WE WORK CLOSELY WITH PUBLIC WORKS, TRANSPORTATION, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WE DEVELOP THOSE

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PLANS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND IF WE HAVE TO GET IT STAMPED, WE CAN GET IT STAMPED.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, SO, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE, THE SITE PLAN FOR THE WHOLE PROPERTY? RIGHT. RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S GOOD. SO AGAIN, AND WE'RE KEEPING OUR FINGERS CROSSED HERE WITH BENZOS, RIGHT. AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT HAPPEN AROUND THIS, BUT, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT ESPECIALLY THIS, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE INGRESS AND THE OUT GRESS AND WHERE THE PARKING COULD POTENTIALLY BE THIS WHOLE PROPERTY AND HOW THE DYNAMICS OF PEDESTRIAN AND AUTOMOTIVE TRAFFIC MIGHT BE AROUND THIS. YOU KNOW, MY, MY INCLINATION IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THIS IS MASTER PLANNED TOGETHER. THIS IS A SMALL PART OF THIS, BUT THAT ALL OF THIS WILL BE PLANNED TOGETHER AND THAT WHILE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, WE'RE ALSO THINKING ABOUT GOING ACROSS THE STREET AND WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A MUSEUM OR A POLICE STATION OR WHO KNOWS WHAT ON THIS CORNER, THE GAS STATION ON THE OTHER CORNER.

AND SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A WHOLE AREA THERE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE ENVISIONING AND MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING ALL OF THAT TOGETHER SIMULTANEOUSLY, AND NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST A PIECE OR A FRAGMENT AGAIN. AND SO, IT, I MEAN, WHAT CONVERSATIONS HAVE TAKEN PLACE ABOUT THE WHOLE AREA, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD INCLUDE THIS PROJECT AND MAKE IT REASONABLE FOR US TO DO THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW. YEAH. SO I'LL REWIND TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KRISTA POINTED OUT, JUST SHARING THE INITIAL ENGAGEMENT AND HOW THIS OPPORTUNITY CAME TO BE. RIGHT? SO IT STARTED WITH, AGAIN, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, REALLY THE, THE ENGINEERING ASSET THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, RIGHT, APPROACHING THIS GROUP ABOUT EXAMINING SOME OF THE THINGS AROUND WHEN WE SAY PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, NAMELY THE ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC, WITH SPEEDING, WITH CONNECTIVITY. RIGHT. AND SHE MENTIONED THAT QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, REACHED OUT AND, YOU KNOW, ASKED ME TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BECOME PART OF THE CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION? SO OBVIOUSLY, I SHARED WITH THEM, WE MENTIONED, RIGHT, WE MENTIONED THAT LOT TWO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AS THEY WERE LOOKING AT SECOND LOCATIONS IN THE METROPLEX, PART OF THE EXPANSION, WHEN THEY CAME TO TOWN AND DROVE AROUND, RIGHT WITH THEIR REAL ESTATE BROKER AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTED THEM TO THIS SITE IN OUR CONVERSATION WAS POTENTIALLY OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO CONNECT THAT SYNERGY WITH THE ARMSTRONG PARK WITH, AS YOU GO NORTH OF MAIN TO JUST AN INTERSECTION ACROSS THE STREET IN THE SOUTH OF MAIN, RIGHT, MAKING IT EASIER WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THEIR THEIR FORMULA, RIGHT AS A RESTAURANT, BIG PART FAMILIES THAT ARE OUTDOOR FENCED IN YARD. AND SO THEY SEE THAT CRITICAL MASS ACROSS THE STREET AT ARMSTRONG AT THIS MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT CENTER, RIGHT. AND WE THINK ABOUT OUR CITY, SOME OF THE LARGEST CONCENTRATION OF EMPLOYERS, DAYTIME POPULATION, I KNOW WE CALL DOWNTOWN, AT THE CORE OF CENTER STREET MAIN. BUT THE CRITICAL MASS OF WORKERS, EMPLOYEES, CONGREGATING PROBABLY WHEATLAND AND MAIN. AND SO THEY LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY OF MAKING IT EASIER, RIGHT, FOR THOSE POTENTIAL PATRONS AND VISITORS TO NOT HAVE TO GET IN THEIR VEHICLES AND MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE ACROSS THE STREET. SO THE QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO PLANNING, IT'S ALWAYS STARTED AS A PUBLIC WORKS TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, ACCESSIBILITY ANALYSIS INDEPENDENTLY, BUT CONCURRENTLY WE'RE FOCUSED AS DEVELOPMENT STAFF ON THE INVESTMENT, THE ADAPTIVE REUSE, THE PAVING THE WAY FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE PLANNING OF THE LOT. AND SO THOSE THINGS OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO HAPPEN. YOU HAVE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, YOU'VE GOT ZONING, YOU'VE GOT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM. WE'VE GOT PUBLIC WORKS AT THE TABLE. WE HAVE ALL OF THE CAST OF CHARACTERS OF PLAYERS IN PLACE TO EXECUTE THAT. I WOULD JUST OFFER TO SHARE KIND OF WHAT OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN AGAIN, AS STEWARDS OF THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND TOOLKIT TO GET THE INVESTMENT TO THE TABLE, BUT THEN HAVE THEM ACCESS OUR PLANNING, OUR PERMITTING, OUR INPUT, THAT WHOLE PROCESS. WELL, MAYOR, JUST JUST ONE, JUST THE LAST COMMENT. SO, AND IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN A WHILE. IT'S BEEN TOO LONG SINCE I'VE MADE A CHESS ANALOGY. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE ONE NOW. BUT I, YOU KNOW, I DO BELIEVE IN IN GOOD MOVES AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD MOVE.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE PLAYING CHESS, YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE RIGHT MOVE AT THE RIGHT TIME.

AND I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO, TO WORK WITH BETTER BLOCK, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS AREA AS WELL AS

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THE DOWNTOWN PROPER AREA AND HOPEFULLY OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY. BUT I'M NOT SURE IF RIGHT NOW IS THE TIME TO BE DOING THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FUNDING COMPONENT TO IT AT THIS TIME. SO, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST. OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE THE REQUEST.

SECOND, GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JARED DAVIS. SORRY. OH, MISS GOODEN, THANK YOU.

MAYOR, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE CONVERSATION ANY LONGER, BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I THINK FOR BOTH 300 K YOU SAID THAT THIS IS 300,000. THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR. AND, WILL THIS BE INCORPORATED INTO FUTURE BUDGETS, THIS SAME 300 OR WOULD IT POSSIBLY BE MORE FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT AS THIS? WOW. SO WAS THAT WOULD THAT BE FISCAL YEAR 2728, YEAH. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE PROJECTING OR IS THIS A ONE TIME? I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAD THAT IN MIND, RIGHT? AS WE LOOK FOR DIFFERENT WAYS TO AGAIN, EXPAND OUR TOOLKIT, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE A ROBUST FUND THAT WE CAN DEPLOY, RIGHT TO ASSIST PROJECTS, RIGHT? WHEN THEY COME IN MANY DIFFERENT SHAPES AND SIZES. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO RIGHT SIZE ONE PROJECT AND SQUEEZE THEM INTO A BOX, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE DESIGN INCENTIVE PROJECTS, WE HAVE INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS, AGAIN WITH THE PARTY ON LOT ONE OF THIS SITE, RIGHT? THAT WILL PROBABLY BE RETURNING TO TALK ABOUT BOTH THE REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION PIECE OR ANY SUBSEQUENT GROUND LEASE. WE GOT A PROPERTY, RIGHT? IT'S NEVER HAD. IT'S NEVER BEEN USED IN THIS SENSE. SO, SO IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE PUBLIC UTILITIES TO SUPPORT THE RESTAURANT USE. RIGHT. AND SO ALL OF THESE THINGS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY UP AND DOWN MAIN STREET AND OUR OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS CORRIDOR FOCUSES. SO I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULDN'T BE IN A POSITION IN THE FUTURE YEARS TO CONTINUE TO ALLOCATE, ESPECIALLY IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT PROVES TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND WELL RECEIVED. THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. SO THIS IS TEMPORARY. CORRECT. SO $236,820 TEMPORARY. WE GET FEEDBACK. SEE HOW THE COMMUNITY FEELS ABOUT IT. AND SO ONCE IT'S OVER WITH, THEN WE HAVE THE MATERIALS. COULD WE USE THAT IN A DIFFERENT AREA? LET'S SAY IF WE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE ONLY LOCATION WE IDENTIFIED. DID YOU CONSIDER ANY OTHER LOCATIONS? I KNOW CHARLOTTE CAME AND AND I DO RECALL CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST WITH PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION AND, PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT TRAFFIC CALMING. WE THAT'S BEEN A CONVERSATION FOR A WHILE. SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION IN THE FUTURE? THESE SAME MATERIALS THAT WE HAVE? YES. SO THAT IS, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE THE CONTAINER, YOU CAN HAVE THOSE ELEMENTS INSIDE THE CONTAINER AS WELL AND THAT CAN MOVE TO ANOTHER SITE. SO A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE DID FOUR PROJECTS IN PITTSBURGH. AND THE CONTAINER MOVED TO EACH OF THOSE SITES. TOTALLY DIFFERENT APPROACH, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOOK, BUT THE ELEMENTS WERE THE SAME. AND SO THE COST WAS ABLE TO KIND OF BE SPREAD AROUND. WITH THOSE, OUR GOAL IS TO NOT BE INVOLVED ALL THE WAY THROUGH. OUR GOAL IS THAT OTHER FOLKS CAN KIND OF TAKE IT ON AND LEAD WITH IT, BUT WE CAN HELP IF THAT IS NEEDED AS WELL. AS FAR AS WHERE WE LOOKED AT, IT REALLY WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT WHEATLAND AND MAIN BOTH DIRECTIONS AND KIND OF SAYING, OKAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO REALLY LOOK AT THESE CORRIDORS AND SEE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CALMING WITH IT? AND THEN AGAIN, JUST THAT THAT ANCHOR SITE JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS RIGHT. AND THERE'S THINGS HAPPENING. SO REALLY TAKING THIS MOMENT TO SAY, HOW DO WE WANT THIS TO LOOK IN THE FUTURE? WHAT SHOULD IT BE? WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY REALLY LOOKING FOR HERE? SO THAT'S WHY THAT ONE REALLY STUCK OUT. STUCK OUT TO US. SORRY. YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE VIDEO FOR IRVING, I THOUGHT SIMILAR TO COUNCIL MEMBER KOONTZ, THIS I CAN SEE HAPPENING REALLY DOWNTOWN IN THE CENTER AREA OF DOWNTOWN. BUT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ANTICIPATE ON CONTINUING, AND THEN WE GET TO KEEP THE MATERIALS AND MAYBE THE FINANCIAL IMPACT THE NEXT TIME WE DO A SIMILAR PROJECT MAY NOT BE AS SIGNIFICANT. THEN MAYBE

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WE CAN DO THIS LOCATION AND THE NEXT LOCATION. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSION OF WALKABLE AREAS AND WE HAVE WALKED AREAS WHERE IT'S NOT QUITE CONTINUOUS AND IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO SEE MOVING FORWARD. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL AS CONSIDERATION. BUT I ALSO SEE THE POINT IN US MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING THINGS THAT'S CONTIGUOUS AND WORKED WELL TOGETHER. SO YOU HAVE GALENA AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE CONTINUING TO DO SOMETHING ELSE AT GALENA IF IT'S GOING TO STAY THAT SAME WAY. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS NEEDS TO BE PLATTED. WHAT'S THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE. HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? WILL THAT PREVENT US FROM MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS? I HAVE A JUST THINKING OUT LOUD. SO IF YOU COULD ANSWER THAT AND THEN I'LL GET OUT THE WAY. THANK YOU. A GOOD QUESTION. ONE THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT. SO ON ONE INSTANCE, I THINK THE THE PART THAT GETS GLOSSED OVER BECAUSE WE KNOW WE OWN THE FORMER TAX OFFICE, RIGHT? THE CITY OWNS IT, RIGHT? SO THAT GETS TAKEN FOR GRANTED. BUT IF WE WERE TO SAY, WHY CAN THIS PROJECT BE IN DOWNTOWN? OKAY, DOWNTOWN IS A DESCRIPTION OF A LOCATION, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME AS SAYING THIS PARCEL. SO WE DON'T GET TO DECIDE PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY TO ACTIVATE. BUT WE DO HAVE THAT ABILITY ON A CITY OWNED PARCEL, RIGHT? SO LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT I MEAN, UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOMETHING IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, RIGHT, OR YOU HAVE EASEMENT LIKE SO, SO THAT THAT MATTERS MAYBE IN THE SITE SELECTION PROCESS. THE OTHER QUESTION, I'M SORRY. PLANNING. YEAH. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE HAVE TO DO IS THE PRECURSOR TO THE PLANNING PROCESS IS WHAT I DESCRIBED EARLIER BEFORE THEY CAME ALONG, THEY BEING BETTER BLOCKED. WE'RE WORKING INTERNALLY WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS, OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S EVEN NECESSARY FOR YOU TO USE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AS A RESTAURANT. AND SO THE PLANNING IS GOING TO SPELL OUT WHERE, OKAY, THESE NEW WATER SEWER LINES, HOW ARE WE GOING TO TREAT THE PARKING RIGHT? ACCESS POINTS YOU MENTIONED BASED ON THE DESIGN, ALL OF THESE THINGS SO THAT THEY CAN THEN BE PRESENTED TO OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT STAFF THROUGH PLANNING, ZONING THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL. RIGHT.

BUT THE FIRST STEP IS TO GET AN ENGINEER ON BOARD TO HELP YOU START TO DESIGN THAT. AND SO WE'VE ONLY NOW JUST GOTTEN TO THAT POINT. BUT LUCKILY WE HAVE. THAT'S WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GET THE LETTER OF INTENT TO DEMONSTRATE TO THIS PROPOSED END USER THAT, HEY, WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF SOME PREDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES WITH THE PROPERTY THAT WE OWN. BUT WE'RE ACTING IN GOOD FAITH. WE'RE NOT STRINGING YOU ALONG. HERE'S THIS DEMONSTRATION OF MUTUAL INTEREST IN NEGOTIATING THE DEAL, INCLUDING THE ABILITY TO CREATE A LEGAL DESCRIPTION TO SAY, OKAY, WE CAN CONVEY LOT ONE FOR THIS USE. SO AND THERE WAS A LONG WINDED ANSWER, BUT THERE LITERALLY ARE A LOT OF CONCURRENT STEPS HAPPENING WITH THE SITE. THINGS THAT WERE UNDERWAY BEFORE THIS PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITY CAME ABOUT, THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO FOCUS ON AT LEAST OUR DEPARTMENT AND OUR TEAM. BUT CERTAINLY, AS YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR PHASE OF THAT INTERSECTION IS KIND OF UNIQUE BUT COMPLEMENTARY. DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE WORK. WE'RE ALREADY STARTING AS A STAFF. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, DO I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS? ONE IS, WE'RE PARTIALLY BASING THIS LOCATION BECAUSE OF OUR EXPECTATION THAT A RESTAURANT WILL OPEN UP THERE, BUT THAT IS STILL UP IN THE AIR AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GETTING THE PERMISSION THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO OPEN THEIR.

MAKE SURE UNDER QUESTION. SO YOUR QUESTION IS, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A COMMITMENT THAT WILL ALLOW US AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THAT PIECE OF BUSINESS TO OPERATE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTION, THAT'S BEING HANDLED BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE OWNERS OF THE BUSINESS. YOU REFERRING TO THE ABILITY TO OBTAIN A LICENSE FROM THE STATE TO SERVE? RIGHT, RIGHT. THE THE HURDLE WAS, AND MAYBE IT ISN'T ANYMORE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAD TO GIVE AN OKAY TO DO THIS. YEAH, THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT PROCESS, BOTH BY THE COMPANY.

THERE'S BEEN FORMAL MEETINGS WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SUPERINTENDENTS OFFICE WITH THE ISD ABOUT THIS PROJECT. THEY'VE SEEN THIS SITE PLAN ILLUSTRATION BASED ON ITS

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PROXIMITY TO MARYSVILLE ELEMENTARY. THEY'VE HAD THEY BEING THE LOI PARTY SINCE THOSE.

THEY HAD PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH OUR PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM TO REITERATE AND UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THEY'VE GOT A SEASONED ATTORNEY WHO'S HELPED THEM NAVIGATE THAT WITH THEIR CURRENT LOCATION BECAUSE THEY'RE ABOUT 500FT FROM ANOTHER PRIVATE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S DIFFERENT. SO AGAIN, THAT IS A PROCESS THAT REMAINS PART OF THE CHECKLIST THAT THEY HAVE TO GET THROUGH. BUT THE FIRST THINGS FIRST IS WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER, RIGHT, A PARCEL AND A LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THEM TO OBTAIN TRUE SITE CONTROL, RIGHT? IF THERE'S AN EXPECTATION NOW THAT I'M GOING TO DISPATCH MY ATTORNEY, GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WITHOUT ANY ASSURANCES THAT YOU CAN DELIVER A SITE RIGHT FOR US TO BUILD OUT. SO AGAIN, THIS THE NOTION OF THESE CONCURRENT THINGS THAT ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT, THAT HAVE TO BE NAVIGATED, THAT'S THE MESSY SAUSAGE MAKING PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU UNDERSTAND. WE JUST WANT TO SERVE IT UP HOT AND DIGESTIBLE. BUT BEHIND THE SCENES, THERE'S ALL THESE THINGS WE GOT TO WE GOT TO PUT TOGETHER. OKAY, OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MR. KOONTZ, I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE QUICK CORRECTION. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE SITE SELECTION. AND IN DOWNTOWN PROPER, THE CITY DOES OWN THE RIGHT OF WAY UP, UP, AND INCLUDING THE SIDEWALK IN SOME CASES. AND SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD BE DONE IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU. THERE'S NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN. THERE WAS NO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO, NOTHING GOING FORWARD ON THAT. OKAY. SO WE MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT B CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING

[8.B. Consider an Ordinance amending chapter 12, “miscellaneous offenses and provisions,” of the code of ordinances regulating parking on unimproved surfaces; providing purpose and intent; providing definitions; establishing applicability, parking standards, special event override procedures, exemptions, enforcement, and penalties; providing for severability; and providing an effective date.]

CHAPTER 12 MISCELLANEOUS OFFENSES AND PROVISIONS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, I'M VICTOR PIZARRO, CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERINTENDENT. TODAY WE'RE BRINGING PARKING OFF UNIMPROVED SURFACES. THIS WAS PRESENTED IN DISCUSSIONS BEFORE. AS YOU CAN SEE, BACK IN JANUARY 2025. SEPTEMBER 2025, DECEMBER 2025, AND FEBRUARY 2026. SO IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE YOU A FEW TIMES. I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS. THE PURPOSE IS TO MAINTAIN THE STANDARDS FOR PROPERTY VALUES, PREVENT DRAINAGE ISSUES, NEIGHBORHOOD BLIGHT, ENSURE PARKING REMAINS ORDERLY AND VISUALLY APPROPRIATE. AND THIS APPLIES TO ALL VEHICLES. SO CARS, TRAILERS, BOATS, RVS, ETC. ALSO IN DISTRICTS AS WELL, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, MIXED USE. BASICALLY EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE, THE KEY STANDARDS ARE NO PARKING OR STORAGE ON IMPROVED SURFACES, NO VACANT OR UNOCCUPIED VEHICLE OR STORAGE TO EXCEED 60 DAYS, NO PARKING OR STORAGE ON VACANT OR OCCUPIED LOTS THAT DO NOT HAVE AN ACTIVE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY RELATING TO VEHICULAR USE. WE'RE ALSO ESTABLISHING A CLEAR, EASILY VISIBLE CODE ENFORCEMENT CRITERIA THAT PROTECTS NEIGHBORHOOD QUALITY AND DRAINAGE WHILE AVOIDING ONGOING AUDITS OR COMPLEX ADMINISTRATIVE OVERSIGHT. THE APPLICABLE AREAS, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS GOING TO BE MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, DUPLEX, RESIDENTIAL, LOCAL OFFICE, RETAIL, GENERAL OFFICE, RETAIL, INDUSTRIAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD, OFFICE, DISTRICT AND COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY, SO THIS ONE IS, AM I CORRECT THAT THIS IS THIS ONE SPECIFIC TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES? THAT IS CORRECT.

THIS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION. OKAY. THAT IS CORRECT. SO YEAH, I THINK IT'S A LONG TIME COMING.

IN ADDITION TO THIS, AND I KNOW IT'S ACTUALLY A DIFFERENT SUBJECT MATTER, BUT, PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THESE GUYS THAT ARE DOING THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE, YOU'VE ALREADY HAD SUCCESS. I'VE SEEN IT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT THEY'RE ALSO USING PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVED SURFACES ON PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO STORE AND WORK ON THEIR VEHICLES. SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH CHANGING THIS ORDINANCE TO EFFECTIVE, EFFECTIVELY REMOVE

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THOSE VEHICLES THAT ARE THE BRUNT OF THE PROBLEM, I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO THINK ABOUT, THE CARS THAT ARE PARKED ON PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ON APPROVED SURFACES THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON THEM SOMEWHERE IN OUR ORDINANCES. IT'S COVERED THAT YOU CAN'T BE DOING BUSINESS ON A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. SO IF WE DO THAT ALL IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CHANGES YOU PROPOSED HERE, I THINK IT'LL HAVE A BIGGER IMPACT AND IT WILL FREE UP SOME PARKING ON THE STREETS, NAMELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, THE DUNCANVILLE COMMUNITY THEATER.

ALL THOSE PUBLIC PARKING SPACES ARE TAKEN UP BY CARS THAT HAVE BEEN STORED OVER THERE FOR YEARS. SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GOOD START AND I THINK IT'LL HELP US TO PROBABLY THE GREATEST SUCCESS WE'VE HAD IN ELIMINATING THESE PROBLEMS. IT TAKES A LOT OF MANPOWER, WOMAN POWER TO GO AND INVESTIGATE RIGHT UP ALL THE COMPLAINTS. FOLLOW UP. EVENTUALLY END UP IN COURT ON SOME OF THEM. AND SO THE TIME THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE AND THE MAN AND WOMAN POWER THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE, STAFF POWER, IS GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS UNDERTAKING. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU PICKING UP THE, THE BATON ON THIS ONE AND RUNNING WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S LONG OVERDUE, ESPECIALLY IN THE HIGHLY VISIBLE AREA, NOT TO MENTION THE ONES THAT AREN'T SO VISIBLE. BUT YEAH, IT'S A LONG TIME COMING. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE LIGHTS ARE DIM. SO, MR. KOONTZ, DO YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON? YES, SIR. OKAY. GO AHEAD. AND MAYOR, YOU SAID PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING I WANTED TO SAY, BUT, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY FOR THE WORK, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION FOR YEARS, AND I KNOW YOU'VE YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR, I WON'T SAY YEARS, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME ABOUT.

CORRECT. YES. YEAH. NO, IT'S BEEN A WHILE. AND YOU KNOW THIS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T THINK ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT IN THESE TERMS SOMETIMES. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE GOALS IN THE DOWNTOWN TALKING ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND, THAT WE SIMPLY CANNOT ACCOMPLISH THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS, THESE NUISANCES ARE AN OBSTACLE TO, TO US ACCOMPLISHING, REACHING SOME OF THOSE GOALS. AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR THE WORK. AGAIN, WE THINK ABOUT REIMAGINING AND ENVISIONING AND ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT THIS IS A MAJOR, IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE HERE. AND SO AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT THE DEPARTMENT'S DOING. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I AM PLEASED TO SEE, AS WE'VE HEARD IN SOME TO SOME EXTENT, THE TEETH BEING PUT INTO THIS ORDINANCE TO HELP TO HELP MANAGE, SOME OF THESE INSTANCES, IF YOU COULD JUST BACK UP AND I HATE TO MAKE YOU DO THIS BECAUSE MY, MY QUESTION IS MORE ABOUT VEHICULAR STORAGE. OKAY. NOW YOU SAY THAT NO VACANT OR UNOCCUPIED VEHICULAR STORAGE TO EXCEED 60 DAYS. COULD YOU JUST CAST A LITTLE LIGHT INTO WHAT DO WE MEAN BY THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ONE INSTANCE OF PARKING RIGHT ON UNIMPROVED SURFACES. THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE INSTANCE OF AN IMPROVED SURFACE OR AN UNIMPROVED SURFACE IN THE INSTANCE NOW, BUT THE, THE, THE OCCURRENCE OF A VACANT OR AN UNOCCUPIED VEHICLE. COULD YOU DIFFER FROM A DEFINITION PERSPECTIVE? CAST SOME LIGHT INTO WHAT DO WE MEAN BY THIS AND HOW WE INTEND TO ENFORCE THIS COMPONENT? OF COURSE, THIS IS MORE ABOUT VACANT LOTS, RIGHT? HAVING VEHICLES, PARKING ON THOSE, ON THOSE VACANT LOTS, AND THEN HAVING ALSO AT THE SAME TIME UNOCCUPIED VEHICLES THAT ARE BEING STORED FOR LONGER THAN 60 DAYS. SO THAT'S WHAT KIND OF WHAT IT TIES DOWN TO. SO WHAT WE'RE HAVING SOME OF THE ISSUES IS LET'S JUST TAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THESE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, RIGHT? WHERE THEY ARE HAVING VEHICLES JUST KIND OF SITTING BEHIND IT ON THE ON THE VACANT LOT THAT MIGHT NOT BE THEIRS, JUST SITTING THERE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, 60 DAYS PLUS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST NOT BEING WORKED ON, ESSENTIALLY BECOMING A JUNKYARD IN A WAY. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENFORCE HERE. CORRECT.

BUT I WANT TO BACK AND I AND I AND I FOLLOW THAT. THAT'S BULLET NUMBER THREE. I HEAR YOU SAYING I WANT TO GO TO BULLET NUMBER TWO. NO VACANT OR UNOCCUPIED VEHICULAR STORAGE TO EXCEED 60 DAYS WITH NO DUE REGARD TO WHETHER OR NOT THE LOT IS VACANT OR OCCUPIED. I KIND OF WANT TO JUST TALK ABOUT VEHICULAR STORAGE. OKAY. ON ON LOTS, BE THEM IMPROVED OR UNIMPROVED. OKAY. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND ACCOMPLISH HERE IS TO NOT HAVE ANY VEHICLES THAT ARE BEING SITTING FOR A LONG TIME. RIGHT? SO WHAT'S GOING TO TAKE TO THE MAYOR'S POINT IS IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF MANPOWER. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO PUT EVERYTHING IN PAPER, PUT EVERYTHING DOWN, KEEP TRACK OF EVERYTHING, RIGHT? FOR ALL THESE VACANT AND UNOCCUPIED VEHICLES THAT ARE BEING THAT ARE BEING SITTING AT THESE LOCATIONS FOR SO LONG. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE APPROACH FROM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE IT. WE'RE GOING TO START BY BEING BOOTS ON THE GROUND, GOING TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE BUSINESSES, STARTING THE WHOLE PROCESS AND LETTING THEM KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. AND YOU NEED TO SHOW

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PROGRESS IN THIS BECAUSE WE CANNOT HAVE VEHICLE STORAGE JUST SITTING OUT THERE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME, CAUSING A BLIGHT FOR FOR THE WHOLE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. THANK YOU FOR CASTING THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CASTING THAT ADDITIONAL LIGHT THAT THAT THAT CURES MY QUESTIONS, MR. MAYOR. JUST REAL QUICK, I.

WOULD GO TO AUSTIN TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO THEY END UP USING SCRAP. THAT WE RARELY. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO ASK IT. BUT JUST TO ASK, I BELIEVE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO SET A STANDARD THEN FOR THIS CITY. EVEN CITY FACILITIES SHOULD ADHERE TO IT AS WELL. AND WE KNOW OF ONE THAT'S NOTORIOUS ON THE WEEKENDS NEAR 67. WE CALL IT THE FIELD HOUSE. SO HOW WILL WE ADDRESS THAT.

DOES THIS ADDRESS THAT OR IS IT COVERED UNDER THE CITY APPROVED SPECIAL EVENTS? IT WILL BE UNDER THAT. IT WOULD HAVE TO START GETTING PERMITS. SO EVERYBODY THERE'S NO EXEMPTIONS TO THIS, RIGHT. BECAUSE IF WE ARE SETTING A STANDARD, AS YOU COUNCILMEMBER GOODWIN JUST STATED, WE NEED TO BE THE EXAMPLE, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE START FROM THAT, THEN YES, THEY WILL HAVE TO GET PERMITS IN. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, DEPENDING ON THE APPROVAL, THEN WE CAN KIND OF MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE AS TO WHAT THEY CAN DO, HOW LONG THEY CAN DO IT, HOW MANY VEHICLES, THINGS LIKE THAT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO THERE WILL BE A PERMIT. SO WHEN WE HAVE EVENTS OVER THE WEEKEND AND THAT PARKING LOT IS FULL AND IT'S SPILLING OVER INTO THE GRASS AND THE UNIMPROVED SURFACES, THAT MEANS THAT THEY WILL HAVE A PERMIT FOR THAT.

YEAH, WE DO HAVE IT. IF IT'S APPROVED. YES. IT IS NOT SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS ONE, BUT IT IS COMING DOWN WITH ANOTHER ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO PRESENT TO YOU TO COUNCIL, WHERE THE PERMIT PART OF IT IS BEING ADDRESSED, FOR THAT TO BE ALL ENCUMBERED TOGETHER. SO THAT WAY EVERYTHING WILL WORK IN TANDEM. I SEE MR. RAUSCHER STANDING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS. OKAY. SORRY. OKAY. MARK RAUSCHER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, I DO KNOW, AND I'M GOING TO LOOK AT OUR LEGAL STAFF. THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES THAT DOES ALLOW FOR TEMPORARY SITUATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT AND YOU, YOU NEED TO PARK ON, ON UNIMPROVED SURFACES. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE, WE HAD BEEN HANGING OUR HAT. HOWEVER, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT WAYS TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT AREA PAVED. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN MULTIPLE QUOTES FOR CONCRETE SURFACING AND, EVEN ASPHALT. AND NORMALLY OUR STANDARD IS CONCRETE, BUT, WE ARE ALSO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT POSSIBLE USES FOR SOME OF THOSE PAD SITES LONG TERM. SO WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR THAT FOR ADDITIONAL USES OR FOR THE, THE PAVING, THE PAVING. SO WE, WE ACTUALLY GOT QUOTES LAST FALL, FOR CONCRETE PAVING, TWO OF THE LOTS, TWO OF THE PAD SITE LOTS. AND THEN WE RECENTLY GOT SOME ASPHALT QUOTES AS WELL.

DUE TO THE POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THOSE TWO PARCELS, ONE OR BOTH OF THEM TO EVENTUALLY BE SOLD BY THE CITY. IF WE, IF WE FIND A SUITOR THAT'S INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING THOSE PROPERTIES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES, SO THAT THAT'S STILL OUT THERE AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE'RE OFF THE AGENDA. OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW WOULD WE ADDRESS, DOES THIS ALSO APPLY TO CITY FACILITIES AS WELL IN THE PARKING? AND THE ANSWER WAS YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. WATCH CAREFULLY. MR. VOTING IF YOU DON'T BEHAVE.

I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

[8.C. ZONE-2026-00013: Consider a public hearing and request from Monte Anderson (owner) to amend the current Planned Development 1817 (PD-1817) to add the land use ‘tattoo shop’ as a permitted use on real property located at 100 S. Main Street, legally described as Lot 1, Block A, Main Station on 1.31 acres in the City of Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]

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GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. DESIREE POWELL, CITY PLANNER. SO I'LL BE PRESENTING ZONE DASH 202600013. THE BACKGROUND FOR THIS REQUEST IS THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PD AMENDMENT TO ADD THE LAND USE TATTOO AND BODY PIERCING TO THE PERMITTED USES STATED IN THE PD. THE CURRENT BUSINESS IS SUP OR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT EXPIRED IN MAY OF 2025 AND STAFF RECOMMENDED THE PD AMENDMENT OPPOSED TO THE SUP FOR A CLEANER LOT OF RECORD AND CLEANER PRACTICE. THE CURRENT ZONING IS SUP2384, AND THEN THE CURRENT PLAN DEVELOPMENT. ON TOP OF THIS IS PLAN DEVELOPMENT 1817. THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP. SO THIS IS WITHIN MAIN STATION. THE STAR REPRESENTS WHERE THE LOCATION OF IT IS. SO THERE IS A THE HASH MARKS FOR THE TATTOO SHOP. BUT THEN THE PD IS THE OVERARCHING ZONING DISTRICT AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. THIS IS THE PROPERTY OWNER BUFFER MAP. AND THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE. IT IS SUITE 104. AND SO STAFF ANALYSIS THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN OPERATING FOR ABOUT ALMOST. OH YEAH MORE THAN SIX YEARS. AGAIN THE SUP EXPIRED. SO IT WAS STATED WITH A TIME FRAME IN 2023. I BELIEVE THE ORIGINAL ONE WAS STAFF RECOMMENDED AGAIN AMENDING THE EXISTING PD. IT IS NOT COMMON PRACTICE TO HAVE AN SUP ON TOP OF A PD. IT MAKES IT IT'S UNCLEAR AND IT DOES DOESN'T MAKE IT AS CLEAN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S PERMITTED AND WHAT'S NOT, OR ANY SPECIAL CONDITIONS THAT MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT USE. BASED ON OUR TALKS WITH THE OWNER, THEY DON'T HAVEN'T HAD ANY PREVIOUS ISSUES, NO CITES, NO CITATIONS, NO COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS. SINCE THEY'VE BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND A GOOD BUSINESS TO THE CITY. IT IS A SMALL OWNED BUSINESS. THE LAND USE AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW THE USE TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT WITHOUT AN EXPIRATION DATE, BUT WOULD ALLOW CONDITIONS TO THE ENTIRE PD. SO ALTHOUGH THE PD IS IN PERPETUITY, THE THESE ARE THE THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT PNC RECOMMENDED FOR THE TO BE ATTACHED TO THE TATTOO AND BODY PIERCING LAND USE. SO EXHIBIT B AND IS INCORPORATED HEREIN AS SPECIAL CONDITIONS.

THE PROPERTY AGAIN SHALL MEET ALL. I'LL SKIP THAT ONE. PARKING AVAILABLE. SO THEY ALL SHARE PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT AND THEN THE BUSINESS HOURS. THE MAIN THING FOR THIS ONE IS THIS WOULD ONE OF THE MAIN CONDITIONS IS THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY TATTOO TATTOO SHOP THAT IS ALLOWABLE. SO IT'S ONE BUSINESS PER ONE CO FOR ONE TATTOO SHOP. SO THERE CAN NEVER BE MORE THAN ONE TATTOO SHOP OPERATING AT THE SAME TIME. WE DID TALK AGAIN. TALK TO THE BUSINESS OWNER ABOUT WHAT HE DOES, HOW HE DOES. WE WERE ACTUALLY JUST THERE ON FRIDAY.

SO THE PD AMENDMENT WOULD APPLY TO THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, BUT TODAY THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS ZONED PD 81817. THE SUP JUST APPLIES TO SUITE 104. P AND Z DID RECOMMEND THAT THEY WANTED AN SUP INSTEAD OF A PD AMENDMENT. THEY FELT THAT IT WAS IT WAS A BETTER CONTROL OF TATTOO SHOPS TO OPERATE IN THE AREA. SO STAFF REVISED RECOMMENDATIONS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW BEFORE, EXCEPT WITH NOTE TO NUMBER FOUR. THERE SHOULD BE ONLY ONE ACTIVE TATTOO AND BODY PIERCING BUSINESS IN OPERATION AT THIS PROPERTY. USES CAN'T BE OPERATED WITH ANY OTHER SUITE WITHIN 100 100 SOUTH MAIN STREET. HOWEVER, NO MORE THAN ONE TATTOO AND BODY PIERCING CAN BE IN OPERATION AT THE SAME TIME. HOURS OF OPERATIONS. AND THEN THE OWNER MAINTAINED ALL THE REQUIRED LICENSES THAT HE NEEDS. SO WE SENT OUT 17 MAILERS. WE RECEIVED ZERO IN SUPPORT AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST WITH THE CONDITIONS, THE REVISED CONDITIONS AS STATED. AND THEN P AND Z DID RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE PD AMENDMENT AT THE JUNE MEETING WITH A 5 TO 1 VOTE. SO THESE ARE YOUR OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION. THEN. ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR ME? YES. I THINK IT'S A CREATIVE WAY TO, SET THIS YOUNG MAN UP TO CONTINUE HIS SUCCESS AT THAT LOCATION. I'M AWARE THAT HE HASN'T HAD ANY PROBLEMS AT THAT LOCATION IS CLEAN. HE HAS A LOT OF CUSTOMERS. WHEN I'M IN AROMAS, I SEE HIM COMING AND GOING, SO I REALLY FEEL

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LIKE, HE'S IN A TOUGH SPOT. AND YOU'VE FOUND AN ALTERNATE, SOLUTION OTHER THAN GOING BACK TO AN SUP, WHICH MAY BE USEFUL FOR FUTURE, TATTOO SHOPS THAT WANT TO OPEN ELSEWHERE. IF A PD CAN BE DONE IN OTHER LOCATIONS, SAY FOR INSTANCE, A SINGLE LOCATION. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO ANY DEEPER THAN THAT. I I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. SEEMED LIKE I HAD LET ME SEE IF I WROTE DOWN A NOTE HERE. NO, IT'S JUST A SIMPLE MATTER OF, OF, ABANDONING THE SUP EVEN THOUGH IT HASN'T BEEN RENEWED, SINCE 25, THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY ACTION TO TAKE THAT AWAY OFF THE BOOKS. SO WOULD THAT HAVE TO BE DONE? NO. SO SINCE THE SUP EXPIRED, IT TAKES CARE OF ITSELF. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN IT'S JUST THE PROCESS OF, CREATING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

YEAH. SO THE PD EXISTS RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S CURRENTLY THERE. THE SUP WAS ADDED FOR THE TATTOO SHOP. SO THE TATTOO SHOP WOULD JUST GO UNDER THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES. ALL RIGHT, SO WITH THE SUP OKAY. IT'S JUST ANOTHER USE. AND IN EFFECT AN SUP IN A PD. JUST AMENDS THE PD TO HAVE THAT USE ON THAT LOT. SO WE WE'RE BASICALLY CONVERTING THE SUP INTO A REGULATION THAT APPLIES TO THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. BUT THE RESTRICTION IS ONLY THE SPACE THAT'S AVAILABLE HERE CAN BE USED FOR THAT. SO IF THEY NEEDED TO MOVE TO ANOTHER UNIT, I WILL WRITE THE ORDINANCE THAT OKAY WHAT TO A SQUARE FOOT STANDARD INSTEAD OF A SUITE NUMBER. BECAUSE LET'S SAY THE SUITE FLOODED. MR. ANDERSON HAS SPACE IN ANOTHER SUITE. I DON'T WANT HIM TO HAVE TO COME BACK HERE TO MOVE TWO SUITE SPACES. SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS RESTRICT THAT USE TO ONLY SO MANY SQUARE FEET IN THE PD, AND THAT'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. MR. DAVIS, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MY QUESTION IS FOR STAFF. SO I DID HEAR YOU SAY THAT.

WELL, LET ME FIRST START BY ASKING YOU, JUST JUST VERY BRIEFLY, DOES, RIGHT NOW IN THIS PARTICULAR PD, A TATTOO PARLOR EXISTS ONLY BY RIGHT WITH AN SUP, CORRECT? YES. OKAY.

WAS THAT PD EVER AMENDED TO INCLUDE AN SUP FOR THIS USE, OR WAS THE PD CREATED WITH THIS USE AS WON BY SUP? NO. SO THE PD EXISTED BEFORE THE SUP CAME AS A SEPARATE ORDINANCE TO THE PD. OKAY. SO WE CAME BACK AT SOME LEGISLATIVELY AT SOME POINT IN HISTORY, WE CAME BACK AND SAID WE WANT TO AMEND THE PD TO ALLOW FOR A TATTOO USE BY SUP. YES. OKAY. AND SO WE'VE AMENDED THE SUP WE'VE AMENDED THE PD TO ALLOW TATTOO PARLOR BY SUP. AND SO SUBSEQUENTLY IN 2020 THIS USE WAS PERMITTED BY SUP FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS. WHEN DID THE SUP EXPIRE. MAY OF LAST YEAR. MAY OF 2025. HAS THE USE STILL BEEN OPERATING SINCE THAT TIME. YES SIR. SO THE USE HAS STILL BEEN IN SINCE SINCE MAY OF 2025. AND AT THAT TIME THAT U P RESTRICTED THAT PARTICULAR USE TO THIS PARTICULAR STRENGTH TO THIS PARTICULAR SUITE. CORRECT. NO.

SO THE ENTROPY WAS JUST FOR THIS BUSINESS, FOR THIS BUSINESS THAT WAS ADDRESSED AT A PARTICULAR SUITE. RIGHT. BUT IT WASN'T AS SPECIFIC AS SUITE 104. IT JUST IT ALLOWED THE USE IN MAIN STATION, OKAY, ALLOWED THE USE IN MAIN STATION. AND SO THAT SO, SO IF SO, IF THAT THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY. THEN WHAT'S THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AS AS WE LOOK JUST JUST UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE IN AN SUP THAT WOULD STILL NOT PREVENT, THE OWNER FROM ALLOWING THIS OPERATOR TO MOVE FROM SUITE TO SUITE USING THE EXAMPLE YOU GAVE BASED ON THAT RESPONSE. OR DO I MISUNDERSTAND SOMETHING? YOU MISUNDERSTAND SOMETHING. THE PROBLEM IS I DON'T WANT THE WHOLE RETAIL PART TO BE A TATTOO PARLOR. SO I'M GOING TO RESTRICT THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S DEDICATED FOR THAT USE. IT'S VERY IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR A SHOPPING CENTER TO ONLY HAVE 50% GROCERY. 25 SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING. OKAY. AND ACTUALLY, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A SUNSET PROVISION, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO REMOVE THE SUP, IT DOESN'T JUST EXPIRE AND GO

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AWAY INTO THE THIN AIR BECAUSE IT'S ZONING. OKAY, SO WE WANT TO GET THE SUP OUT OF IT, JUST ALLOW IT AS A USE, BUT RESTRICT IT TO A PERCENTAGE OF THE RETAIL AT MAIN STATION. SO THE WHOLE THING DIDN'T TURN INTO A TATTOO PARLOR. WE WANT A MIXED COULD COULD YOU GO BACK AND CAST A LITTLE BIT MORE LIGHT INTO, YOU, YOU MADE MENTION ABOUT THE SUNSET PROVISION, AND THE DESIRE TO GET THE SUP OUT OUT OF THE PICTURE. ALTERNATIVELY, SOME PEOPLE WILL ARGUE THAT AN SUP IS A TOOL BY WHICH TO MANAGE A USE, YOU KNOW, OVER A PERIOD OF TIME OR, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. LET ME ASK YOU ONE MOMENT. LET ME JUST ASK YOU, WHAT WERE YOU SAYING WHEN YOU SAID THAT IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO, FOR A SUNSET PROVISION? ET CETERA. TO, TO, TO MOVE BEYOND THE SUP. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU CAN HAVE A SUNSET PROVISION. AND WHAT IT DOES IS FORCES THE STAFF TO BRING BACK A ZONING APPLICATION TO RENEW THAT USE AT THAT LOCATION WITH WHATEVER CONDITIONS. SO WHEN YOU APPROVE AN SUP WITH A SUNSET PROVISION IN IT, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN REMOVE ZONING IS TO REMOVE IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE ENABLING STATUTE, AND THAT IS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE P AND Z, WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL TO EITHER REVOKE THE S, U, P OR CONTINUE IT FOR AN ADDITIONAL PERIOD OF TIME.

THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNSEL, AT THIS POINT, I'VE BEEN REMISS IN NOT RECOGNIZING WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE GONE BEFORE THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING, OPENED UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND SECONDLY, I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL, I'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT THIS WILL TAKE A SUPERMAJORITY, WHICH WILL BE SIX TONIGHT, TO, APPROVE THE REQUEST. SORRY. IT REQUIRES SIX OUT OF SEVEN. DUE TO THE ABSENCE OF MR. VERACRUZ, IT MUST BE UNANIMOUS. SO JUST BE REMINDED OF THAT. THAT BEING THE CASE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 9:00 PM. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BEGIN ASKING THAT. ANYONE IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST, PLEASE COME FORWARD. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. I'M THE APPLICANT. I GUESS I SHOULD NAME AND ADDRESS. HAVE A TIME.

YEAH. MONTY ANDERSON 1210 GREENLEAF. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAME IN TO GET AN SUP AND LIKE THE PLANNER SAID, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK THEIR ADVICE TO MAKE IT PART OF THE PD, WHICH MADE SENSE TO ME TOO. MADE PERFECT SENSE. AND JUST LIKE WHEATLAND PLAZA, WE DID, YOU KNOW, WE LIMITED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OVER THERE TO, I THINK, 3500 SQUARE FOOT AND ONE OCCUPANT. AND I THINK THE THING YOU COULD DO THE SAME THING HERE IF NEED TO BE 1200FT■!S OR, OR LESS, ONE OCCUPANT AND WE'RE AGREEING TO DO THAT. AND SO I THINK WHAT WE'VE WHAT WE'VE GOT, WHAT THEY PRESENTED, AND PART OF THE CONFUSION WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING IS THEY THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO PUT MULTIPLE TENANTS IN THERE. THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON THAT THEY THEY TURNED IT DOWN. AND SO WE'RE AGREEING WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. SO THE NUMBER WOULD BE 1200FT■!S OR LESS. IT WOULD BE 1200. IT'S LIKE 1187. SO IF YOU JUST MAKE IT 1200 OR LESS, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD WORK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST? LET ME SAY THIS JUST TO VERIFY. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HE'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.

WE'VE BEEN THE MANAGER ALL THIS TIME AND WE NEVER HAD ONE CALL. NEVER, NEVER ONE PROBLEM. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH OUR TATTOO STORES, ANY OF THEM IN ANY PLACES. WE UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST? HI Y'ALL. MAY DE LA ROSA, 1107 ROCK SPRINGS ROAD. I SUPPORT THIS. I WAS AT THAT MEETING, THE PNC MEETING WHEN THEY WERE DISCUSSING THIS AND VOTED ON IT. AND IT WAS MY STRONG IMPRESSION THAT THERE WAS ONE, THERE WAS ONE COMMISSIONER THAT SPOKE, VERY ADAMANTLY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT A WHOLE STREET FULL OF, OR NEIGHBORHOOD FULL OF TATTOO PARLORS. AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR THEIR, THEIR DENIAL OF IT. AND AMENDING IT THIS WAY SOLVES THAT PROBLEM. I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING A WHOLE BLOCK FULL OF TATTOO PARLORS, BUT THAT'S JUST A PERSONAL OPINION. I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT HOW WANT MORE ART. TATTOO ARTISTS ARE CALLED THAT FOR A REASON. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS ABOUT TATTOOS, BUT EVERYBODY HAS THEM THESE DAYS, AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY INDICATE THAT YOU'RE A CRIMINAL ANYMORE. SO I SUPPORT THIS MEASURE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST?

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ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST? SEEING NONE, I WOULD ASK THAT ANYONE SPEAKING WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST COME FORWARD. ANYONE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE, I'D ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MOVED. OKAY. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BY COUNCILMAN JARED DAVIS. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN KOONTZ. PLEASE VOTE. OKAY. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AT 9:04 P.M. NOW. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THERE WERE SOME LIGHTS ON BEFORE I EXPOSED MY FAILURE HERE, SO I DON'T SEE LIGHTS ON AGAIN. ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? OKAY, I'VE GOT A COUPLE ON NOW. I GOT MR. KOONTZ. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, SO WHILE I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THERE TO GET ANY TATTOOS, I EAT AT ROMA'S A LOT, AND YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN ESTHETIC THAT THAT, THAT, THAT BUSINESS OFFERS TO THAT, DEVELOPMENT THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE. AND THEN I DO THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TATTOOS, THAT AGAIN, I THINK IS, SOMEONE MENTIONED, THAT, THAT THE USE OF A TATTOO SHOP, I THINK PEOPLE THINK TATTOO PARLOR AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK DIFFERENT THINGS COME TO MIND NOWADAYS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TATTOOS AND BODY ART AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND IT'S NOT, LIKE SOMEBODY SAID, A JAIL MATE WITH MOM TATTOOED ON THEIR, THEIR SHOULDER. SO YEAH, I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THIS. AND, CITY ATTORNEY, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM YOU SAID THAT THIS DOES REQUIRE A UNANIMOUS APPROVAL, RIGHT? FOR IT TO PASS IT WOULD TONIGHT. YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. MAYOR PRO TEM PENNEBAKER. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I HAVE BEEN IN THERE AND IT IS A GOOD PLACE. THEY RUN A GREAT BUSINESS. THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THIS ONE PLACE, THOUGH. IT'S IT'S ABOUT, BRINGING IN BUSINESSES AND TATTOO ARTISTS AND THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO, FOR THIS LOCATION. 30 YEARS AGO, A FORMER DUNCANVILLE POLICE OFFICER WENT THROUGH, A LOT OF TROUBLE TRYING TO OPEN UP A TATTOO SHOP IN DUNCANVILLE. AND IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING TO SEE PEOPLE ON THE COUNCIL VOTE AGAINST IT WHILE THEY HAD TATTOOS ON THEIR ARMS. IT WAS KIND OF IRONIC TO SEE THAT. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION AS FAR AS THE TIMES, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS EXISTING ALREADY THAT HAD 10 TO 10 OPERATING TIME? YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT'S IT. OKAY. MR. DAVIS, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR COMMENTS. I, I ACTUALLY RECALL WHEN THIS APPLICANT CAME FOR THE SUP TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND I SUPPORTED THIS UNDER AN SUP COMING INTO THIS AREA. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK I WAS THE FIRST PERSON IN ORDER TO SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE AND HELP PEOPLE SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, I THINK, COUNCIL MEMBER KUNTZ, JAIL BIRD OR JAIL MOM, SOMEBODY, KIND OF TATTOOED TO UNDERSTAND IT'S A FORM OF ART AND ONE WHICH I FULLY SUPPORT. HOWEVER, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE WAY THIS IS COMING TO US IN TERMS OF HOW WE WANT TO PRESENT IT IN TERMS OF THIS, IN THIS PD, I THINK THAT UPON THE RENEWAL OF AN SUP, WE COULD ACCOUNT FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AREA. I THINK THAT WE COULD ALLOW FOR MORE TIME BECAUSE IN OTHER INSTANCES WE'VE PASSED SUPS WITH NO TIME LIMITS, WHICH IS TANTAMOUNT TO THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING DOING BY AMENDING THIS, THIS PD ONCE MORE AND AGAIN, TO TAKE THE USE FROM BEING ALLOWED BY SUP TO BEING ALLOWED BY, BY, BY PD. SO I STRUGGLE WITH THAT JUST IN TERMS OF OUR LONG TERM VISIONING AND MANAGEMENT OF THAT DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE APPLICANT. BUT I REMEMBER THIS FROM GENESIS TO NOW WE HERE WE ARE IN REVELATION IN TERMS OF THIS COMING BACK AND ASKING FOR IN A DIFFERENT AMENDMENT. AND SO, I SUPPORT I DON'T HAVE A TATTOO, PERSONALLY, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND IT AS ART. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT WHAT WE USED TO THINK ABOUT IN THE 90S OR THE 80S OR EVEN BEFORE THEN, BUT I DO FROM A PLANNING AND ZONING PERSPECTIVE, HAVE SOME PAUSE AND HESITATION INTO THE FORM IN WHICH, THIS APPLICANT PERHAPS HAS BEEN ADVISED TO PURSUE THIS APPLICATION OR OTHER OR HOWEVER IT COMES TO US TONIGHT. SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY

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COMMENTS AS IT RELATES TO THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU. MR. MACK BURNETT, THANK YOU. MAYOR, MR. DAVIS, I HEARD YOUR COMMENTS AND I AGREE, WITH SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I WAS HERE ON THE COUNCIL WHEN WE APPROVED THIS THE FIRST I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS. BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO RELY ON THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT IT'S BROUGHT TO US IN A PROPER MANNER. SO I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ZONE 2026-0013. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT. SECOND. SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM PENNEBAKER. MR. PENNEBAKER, LIGHT WAS ON BEFORE THE MOTION. BUT DO YOU HAVE DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? OKAY. NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. MR. MCBURNETT, YOUR LIGHTS STILL ON? NOT MEANT. NOT MEANT TO BE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, REMEMBER SUPERMAJORITY AND WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST TO CREATE A PD OR TO PUT HIM UNDER THE RULES OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW HIM TO BE THERE AS LONG AS HE WANTED TO BE. CORRECT. YES.

OKAY. PLEASE VOTE. SO DRAMATIC. THE THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU DESIREE.

APPRECIATE IT. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. OKAY. SORRY. UP NEXT, LET ME MAKE SURE I'VE CLEARED EVERYTHING OUT ELSE OUT OF THIS ONE. ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT D. I'LL

[8.D. ZONE-2026-00016: Consider a public hearing and request from Daniel Lozano (applicant/owner) for a Zoning Change from Local Office/Retail (LOR) to Multi-Family Residential District 21 (MF-21) to develop residential structures on real property located at 1435 Candlelight Avenue, legally described as Block L, Lot 1, Candlelight Estates 3rd Installment on 1.2 acres, City of Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]

LET YOU GO AHEAD AND READ OUT WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO US. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS ITEM EIGHT D ZONE DASH 2026-100016. ZONING CHANGE FROM LOCAL OFFICE RETAIL OR LOR TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT 21MF21 ON REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1435 CANDLELIGHT AVENUE. SAME THE APPLICANT. THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S SECOND TIME PROPOSING THIS SAME CONCEPT.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONING CHANGE FROM LOR TO MF 21. HE'S NOW PROPOSING 21 CONDOMINIUMS INSTEAD OF THE ORIGINAL 23. IT IS PROPOSED TO BE THREE UNITS AND MINIMUM UNIT SIZE OF A LITTLE BIT OVER 1500FT■!S. AND THEY ARE PROPOSED TO BE TWO BEDROOM UNITS. AGAIN, THE CURRENT ZONING IS LOR. AND THEN HE'S PROPOSING TO GO TO MF 21. JUST A NOTE AT THE BOTTOM THAT THE PREVIOUS CONCEPT HAD 23 UNITS. AND SO THIS IS SHAVING OFF TWO. JUST THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE GOLD STAR IS. FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS GATEWAY CORRIDOR. AND SO FOR THIS ONE STAFF FOUND THAT THIS CHANGE ALIGNS WITH THE INTENTIONS OF THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF GATEWAY CORRIDOR AS THAT ENTRY POINT INTO THE CITY OFF OF DANIEL DALE. TOTAL LOT SIZE IS 1.213 ACRES. THE APPLICANT IS NOW MEETING THE REQUESTED SETBACKS OR THE THE MINIMUM FOR MF 21, WHICH PRIOR WHEN HIS PRIOR APPLICATION. THAT WAS SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES AND OUR CONCERNS. THE STAFF HAS ALSO INFORMED THE APPLICANT THAT PROPER DRAINAGE AND OTHER UTILITY SERVICES MAY BE NEEDED AND MAY NEED TO BE EXPANDED AND OR UPGRADED AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING THE SITE PLAN AND OR THE ENGINEERING REVIEW. THESE ARE THE MINIMUM DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR MULTIFAMILY 21 FROM THE MAXIMUM DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, ALL THE WAY TO THE MINIMUM LIVING AREA. SO THIS IS A TABLE SHOWING THE CURRENT AND PROPOSED ZONING SETBACKS AND MINIMUM DIMENSION DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS. SO THIS FIRST COLUMN IS LOR. AND THEN THE SECOND COLUMN IS WHAT HE'S PROVIDING OR PROPOSING AS MULTIFAMILY 21.

EVERYTHING IS MEETING THAT AS OF NOW BASED ON HIS APPROVAL OR HIS PROPOSAL. THIS IS HIS PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN. AGAIN, 21 UNITS INSTEAD OF 23 SHOWING INGRESS AND EGRESS, AS WELL AS ROOM FOR THE FIRE TRUCK TO GET THROUGH. AND THESE ARE THE FIVE CONSIDERATIONS THAT STAFF LOOKS AT WHEN A ZONING CHANGE IS PRESENTED BEFORE US. JUST AN AERIAL VIEW OF WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE TODAY. THE PROPERTY OWNER BUFFER MAP. SO WE MAILED OUT 13 NOTICES. AT THE TIME THAT THIS WAS MADE, WE HAD ZERO IN SUPPORT AND ONE IN OPPOSITION THAT SENT A, SENT AN EMAIL FRIDAY. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST

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