[00:00:01] THAT. OH, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER FOR [1. Call to Order] DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION DECEMBER 15TH, 2025. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY, OKAY. HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER TWO. THREE. ITEM THREE COMMISSIONERS REPORTS. DID YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT OR [3. Commissioners Reports (limit to 2 minutes each)] ANYTHING TO SHARE? NO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER REPORTS. LOOK, I'LL START WITH YOU. SO I JUST RECENTLY GRADUATED THIS PAST FRIDAY. CONGRATULATIONS. THERE WAS NO PARKING SPACES OUT THERE TO BE FOUND. OH, YEAH. IT WAS BAD. NO. IT'S HORRIBLE, I HAVE. GOTCHA. YES, YOU DID GRADUATE. ARE YOU HERE? OH THAT'S GREAT. WHAT DEGREE IS EDUCATION? I WOULDN'T KNOW I COULDN'T GIVE YOU. NO, NO, IT WAS HORRIBLE FOR ME TOO. I WAS AT, LIKE 7 P.M. AND I HAD TO, LIKE, RUN TO MY GRADUATION. WOW. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. AND THEN MY FRIEND CARRIE, SHE'S HAVING SHE'S HAVING HER ART CLASS THAT SHE HAS, LIKE, EVERY TUESDAY, LIKE ONCE A MONTH. OKAY. SO SHE'S DOING THAT TOMORROW AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. AMY, I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT OTHER. I GUESS WE CLOSED HARVEY SINCE THE LAST MEETING, I THINK, WHICH WAS SOLD OUT AND WELL ATTENDED. THANK YOU FOR YOU GUYS COMING. AND WE HAD AUDITIONS FOR OUR NEXT SHOW, AND IT WILL START REHEARSALS THE 1ST OF JANUARY, AND I'M DIRECTING IT, SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN YOU DO THE PARADE TO PARDON. THEN YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE PARADE. I DID. OKAY, OKAY. AFTER THE CHAMBER, THE MAN AND WOMAN OF THE YEAR AND ALL OF THAT AND GETTING THAT READY. SO THAT'S MY DAD. YES. AND WENT OUT TO THE PARK FOR A LITTLE BIT. AND IT WAS LOVELY. YES IT WAS OKAY. I HAVE A POEM JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO. THIS ONE'S CALLED BEAUTY. WHEN YOU CREATE, WHEN YOU ENDEAVOR TO BE CLEVER WITH WORD OR BRUSH OR CUT AND CLAY, WHEN YOU IN BOLDNESS GIVE THAT BEAUTY WAY TO BECOME, TO PORTRAY, THEN BEAUTY IS ENOUGH. NO MATTER IF YOU DARE TO SHARE IT WITH A BELOVED OR KEEP IT GENTLY HIDDEN, IT IS STILL BEAUTY CREATED AND IT IS ENOUGH. THAT'S LOVELY. THAT IS NICE. THANK YOU. AND YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE PARADE, DON'T YOU? MOSTLY EVERY YEAR I DO, BUT NOT THIS TIME. SOMETHING CAME UP. OKAY. HI, LINDA. MOVE TO THE NEW GALLERY THAT OPENED ON MAIN STREET AND SPENT SOME QUALITY TIME WITH THE YOUNG LADY WHO IS THE OWNER CURATOR OF THE GALLERY AND DISCUSSED UPCOMING EVENTS, POSSIBLY FOR. SHOWINGS, AND DID LETTERS TO SANTA IN THE PARK DURING THE PARADE AND ATTENDED THE. I WAS REALLY, REALLY IMPRESSED WITH NOT ABOUT THE NAME OF THE GROUP THAT WAS FORMED AT THE CHURCH. WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT AT THE CHURCH? MASTER'S VOICES? YEAH, MASTER'S VOICE ATTENDED THAT. SO? IT WAS JUST INCREDIBLE. WAIT, WHAT TIME DID WE START? I WAS REALLY GLAD THAT I, THAT I ATTENDED AND. ATTENDED SOME ART SHOWS IN DALLAS, BUT NOTHING THAT WOULD BE DEMEANING TO THIS GROUP. SO FOR ME. MARY ANN, DO YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON COMMISSIONERS REPORTS? CAN YOU HEAR ME AT ALL? YES, MA'AM. OH, WELL, I TRIED BEFORE. NOBODY HEARD ME, YOU KNOW. REALLY, I THINK REMOTELY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. MY ITEMS ARE ON THE AGENDA LATER. OKAY. THANK YOU. JULIO, WE'RE AT COMMISSIONER'S REPORT. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED. SO, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US? HEATHER? HI. FINALLY WENT TO THE MUSEUM. THE OLD MUSEUM. IT WAS PRETTY INTERESTING. IT FELT A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE A SALES PITCH TOWARDS THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL, AND HOW THEY CAN INCORPORATE THAT MUSEUM INTO [00:05:02] OUT OF THEIR HANDS, INTO THE CITY'S HANDS. BUT IT WAS PRETTY INTERESTING. I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S A COMPLETE MUSEUM AND THAT PARTICULAR INTEREST. WHAT ELSE DID I DO REGARDING ART? DID A MILLION THINGS. I WENT, I PERFORMED AT THE PUNCHLINE IN IRVING ON THE FIRST DAY THAT THEY OPENED. THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. THAT'S THE NEWEST IRVING COMEDY CLUB. ALSO, I TALKED TO. LIKE FOUR MURALISTS REGARDING THE ART PROJECT. I EXPERIMENTED ALSO USING SORRY, THE ART MURAL ON FIELD HOUSE, EXPERIMENTED USING GOOGLE FORMS TO TO TRY TO DO A CONTACT FORM THAT WE COULD EASILY, I DON'T KNOW, PUT OUT THROUGHOUT MAJOR AREAS WHERE PEOPLE COULD JUST PEOPLE, LOCAL PEOPLE COULD JUST SCAN AND IT'S LIKE A SUBMISSION FORM AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO LIKE DATA, MINE INFORMATION LIKE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A A DATA MINING PROJECT TO COLLECT INFORMATION OF ALL THE ARTISTS IN TOWN. AND I GOT IT TO WORK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM MARIANNE. I GOT IT TO WORK. SO I THINK IT WILL BE REALLY EASY TO MAKE OUT A BUNCH OF QR CODES AND PRINT THEM OUT AND TRY TO SEEK OUT ARTISTS THAT WAY. I ALSO SPOKE TO. THE OWNER OF GILDA CIGARS TO TRY TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING LIKE A CIGAR FESTIVAL AS SOMETHING UNIQUE TO THE TOWN. YOU KNOW, SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT IT IS A A THING AND IT IS A UNIQUE THING. THAT NOT A LOT OF PLACES OFFER, BUT IT WOULD BE PRETTY INTERESTING TO CELEBRATE WITHIN, LIKE A SMALL TOWN. YEAH. SO WE'RE TALKING ON THAT. YEAH. ARE YOU TRYING TO BUILD ART INTO THE CIGAR FESTIVAL? YEAH. SO USING THE CIGAR FESTIVAL AS LIKE A HEAD BUTT WITH ART AROUND IT BASICALLY. YEAH. REGARDING LIKE LITTLE VENDORS OF LOCAL ARTISTS AND LOCAL MUSICIANS AND FOOD TRUCKS, BASICALLY TO DO ALL TO CREATE AND ENCOMPASS THE, THE THAT PROJECT BASICALLY. YEAH. INTERESTING. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN GOODWIN, DID YOU WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING? GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. BUT NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE. I'M JUST ENJOYING LISTENING TO EVERYONE ELSE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. I ATTENDED THE HARVEY PLAY. IT WAS CUTE. NEVER HEARD OF IT BEFORE. I KNOW IT'S POPULAR DOWN HERE, BUT NEVER HEARD OF IT. IT WAS CUTE. MET A NICE LADY WHO GRAVITATED TO ME AND MY NEIGHBOR WHILE WE WERE THERE, AND SHE HAD JUST LOST HER HUSBAND. AND I SHARED THIS WITH AMY LATER, AND SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD NOT BEEN GOING OUT AND NEEDED TO GET OUT, BUT SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN BIG SETTINGS. AND SO SHE CAME. SHE SAW SOMETHING ONLINE OR SOMEWHERE AND CAME TO THE THEATER AND JUST LOVED IT. AND SHE LIVED IN SHE LIVES IN ENNIS, AND SO SHE SAID SHE WOULD BE COMING BACK AGAIN BECAUSE SHE JUST ENJOYED IT. AND SHE SAID IF SHE FELT COMFORTABLE COMING BY HERSELF AND SHE NEEDED TO GET OUT AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT WAS NICE. WHY SHE DECIDED TO TALK TO ME. YEAH. IT'S A FRIENDLY PLACE. YES. YES, SHE JUST DID. I DID ATTEND ONE OF OUR GRANT RECIPIENTS, MASTER'S VOICE. MISS COLEMAN AND MISS LYDIA DID ALSO ATTEND THAT SAME EVENT. IT WAS VERY GOOD. AND THEY DID MENTION THE THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION HELPING IN THE FUNDING OF THAT. SO THEY APPRECIATED THAT. AND YEAH, THEY KNEW US WHEN WE WHEN WE GOT THERE, ALSO PARTICIPATED IN THE DUNCANVILLE CHRISTMAS EVENT. LINDA WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT VOLUNTEERED. BUT AMY, I'M SORRY, NOT AMY, BECAUSE I KNEW AMY WAS IN THE PARADE. ANNE PERRY DID COME OUT AND SHE'S A FORMER COMMISSIONER TO HELP. WE GET A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR PARTICIPATION IN THINGS THAT THE CITY DOES, WHETHER IT'S [00:10:02] NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND DIFFERENT THINGS TO. AND THAT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN PROMOTING THE ARTS THE LAST THREE YEARS. AND SO WE NEED PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER. OR IF WE'RE NOT OR IF WE CAN'T, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO START SOME KIND OF LIST OR SOMETHING OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME OUT AND HELP US. SOMETIMES. MAN IT. THE CHRISTMAS EVENT WENT GOOD. I WAS TELLING I MEAN, IT WAS WELL ATTENDED. I WAS TELLING DEVIN THAT YOU REMEMBER THE LITTLE KID THAT CAME UP AND HE WAS LIKE, I KNOW YOU, I KNOW YOU. I KNEW YOU'D BE HERE, YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, BUT HE'S HE'S HE KEEPS SEEING US AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT EVENTS. AND HE'S LIKE, I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO BE HERE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS, BUT HE ALWAYS TALKS TO ME. AND. AND SO IT'S CUTE. I NEED TO START REMEMBERING THEM. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THAT WAS NICE. AND IT'S NICE TO BE. WE DID. IT WAS COLD, BUT WE DID A GOOD JOB. I DID SHARE WITH DEVIN THE SUGGESTION ABOUT DOING SPANISH SPEAKING, MAYBE HAVING LETTERS TWO SIDED, ONE ENGLISH, ONE SPANISH, BECAUSE THAT WAS REQUESTED SEVERAL TIMES WHILE WE WERE THERE. AND THEN SOME PEOPLE WERE USING THINGS TO, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, GOOGLE TRANSLATE TO TRANSLATE? YES, THEY WERE USING THAT TO DO THE LETTERS. SO AND SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, FINE WITH THAT. AND I DID SHARE WITH HER THAT IT GOT VERY DARK AND IT JUST BECAME DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO DO THE LETTERS FROM WHERE WE WERE. WE DID MOVE THE TABLES OUT, BUT IT STILL BECAME AN ISSUE. YEAH, WE CAN ANGLE THOSE LIGHTS BETTER. YEAH. SO THE ANGLE OF THE LIGHTS. BUT THE KIDS, OF COURSE, AS ALWAYS, LOVE IT. SINCE THERE WAS JUST THE THREE OF US, WE DIDN'T DO AN ART PROJECT OR ANYTHING. WE JUST DID THE LETTERS AND THAT WAS ENOUGH. AND WE WERE WE WERE JUST INUNDATED, YOU KNOW, FACE PAINTING. BECAUSE I WALKED BY THE MAYOR'S HOUSE. YEAH. THEY HAD THEY HAD A LOT OF OTHER NEWSPAPERS SAYING THERE WAS SOME FACE PAINTING. I'M LIKE, I DIDN'T SEE THAT. THERE WERE PROBABLY SOME OF THE OTHER VENDORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YEAH. SO I APPRECIATE IT. AND THAT WAS GOOD. I DID ATTEND THE LIONS CLUB PANCAKE BREAKFAST. I KNOW AMY DID TOO. AND WAS GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION AND SO FORTH. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY REALLY HEARD ME BECAUSE THEY WERE ON THEIR PANCAKES, BUT I DID. WE I ATTENDED CHRISTMAS CAROLS IN THE PARK. ACTUALLY, COUNCILMAN GOODWIN WAS THERE TOO. SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS OUR EVENT, AND I TOLD THEM, NO, THAT WAS PARKS AND REC. PEOPLE ARE GETTING SOMETIMES CONFUSED AS TO WHETHER IT'S US OR SOMEONE ELSE, BUT THAT'S OKAY. BUT THAT WAS A VERY NICE EVENT AND JUST SOME OTHER COUPLES CONCERT. I DID WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT, OH, AND I ATTENDED A COUPLE OF MEETINGS HERE WITH ALEX. THE REASON ALEX IS NOT HERE TODAY, HE'S OUT. HE HAD SOME SURGERY AND HE'S FINE AND ALSO SOME MEETINGS WITH SOME OTHER MEETINGS THAT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU. AND WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT OUR ONE OF OUR GRANT RECIPIENTS, FIXING HIS PLATE, HAS AN EVENT COMING UP ON 1227 RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS. IF YOU'RE AROUND AND IF YOU CAN ATTEND IT, IT'LL BE AT THE FIELD HOUSE. YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND GET TICKETS, BUT WE WANT TO SUPPORT OUR GRANT RECIPIENTS. AND SO SHE IS ONE OF THEM. AND IF YOU WOULD JUST FYI, PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR BECAUSE WE WILL BE ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS. BLOOM FEST IS ON MAY 9TH, AND SO I'M GIVING YOU 3 OR 4 MONTHS TO CHECK YOUR CALENDARS TO SEE IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE TO HELP OUT ON BLOOM FEST. THAT'S A VERY NICE EVENT. OKAY, MAY 9TH. OKAY. AND SO THAT'S MY REPORT. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER FOUR A THE [4.A. Reconsider the October 10, 2025, Special Meeting Minutes] RECONSIDER OF OCTOBER 10TH, 2025 SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES. THERE WERE SOME CORRECTIONS AND MISTAKES. IF YOU WENT THROUGH IT THAT ALEX HIGHLIGHTED FOR US AND SO FORTH. I HOPE YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT. IF NOT, DO YOU NEED A FEW MINUTES TO LOOK OVER IT, OR DID EVERYBODY GET A CHANCE TO VIEW? IT WAS JUST CORRECTING A FEW MISTAKES THAT WERE IN THERE FOR A SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MATT BROWNING, SECOND BY AMY JACKSON TO APPROVE THE RECONSIDERATION FOR THE OCTOBER 10TH, 2025 SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES AND AND READINESS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. AYES HAVE IT. MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ITEM FOUR [4.B. Consider the November 17, 2025, Regular Meeting Minutes] [00:15:05] B CONSIDER THE NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT. SECOND BY AMY JACKSON. SECOND BY LINDA. LYDIA TO ACCEPT THE NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES AND READINESS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. MOTION [4.C. Consider a Special Meeting date, time, and location to occur no later than January 16, 2026, to review second-quarter grant applications.] CARRIES. OKAY. NUMBER THREE, WE NEED TO. COME UP WITH A DATE AND TIME AND A LOCATION NO LATER THAN JANUARY 16TH FOR OUR MEETING TO REVIEW THE GRANT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE COMING IN RIGHT NOW. I KNOW WHEN I MET WITH ALEX AND DEVIN LAST THURSDAY, I THINK IT WAS ONE APPLICATION SO FAR, BUT THEY HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH. BUT YOU KNOW IT. WE NEVER KNOW HOW MANY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A DATE AND WE HAVE TO HAVE IT BEFORE THE 16TH BECAUSE WE HAVE TO. HAVE IT READY TO TO GIVE TO THE COUNCIL SO THAT THEY CAN REVIEW IT. WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AND THEN PASS IT ON TO THE COUNCIL. SO IF ANYBODY HAS. I'M SORRY. HOLD ON A SECOND. MARY ANN SAYS SHE CAN SEE EVERYONE AND SHE CAN HEAR PEOPLE ARE TALKING, BUT EVERYTHING IS GARBLED. ANY WAY TO FIX THAT. AND. WE DON'T THINK SO. YEAH, UNLIKELY. OKAY. IF IT'S COUNCIL, IF IT'S GARBLED FOR HER BECAUSE IT COULD BE A HURRY, RIGHT. CAN YOU HEAR. CAN YOU HEAR US, COUNCILWOMAN? NOW. BUT IS IT GARBLED WHEN YOU'RE LISTENING TO US? SOMETIMES IT IS KIND OF SPOTTY, SO Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE TO JUST, LIKE, SPEAK UP WHEN Y'ALL ARE TALKING, OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL HOLLER AT YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. MY WHOLE BODY. GOOD JOB. VERY CLOSE. OKAY, SO IF WE COULD LOOK AT OUR OUR MEETINGS, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON A DATE? ON THE FIRST AND THIRD TUESDAY? RIGHT. THE CITY COUNCIL, OR IF WE DO HAVE IT ON THAT DATE, WE CAN BE IN ANOTHER LOCATION. WE CAN BE AT THE OTHER LOCATION. WE COULD BE AT 103, OR WE COULD EVEN BE AT THE FIELD HOUSE. THAT'S WHERE THE DC-DC BOARD IS RIGHT NOW. OKAY, SO THERE ARE OPTIONS. IF THAT'S LIKE THE ONLY THING, RIGHT. WHAT IS THE GRANT DEADLINE NOW FOR THIS 31ST OF DECEMBER? YES, MA'AM. DOES ANYBODY HAVE SOME DATES THAT ARE JUST NON WORKABLE. I DON'T HAVE DATES THAT ARE NON WORKABLE. BUT I'LL HAVE REHEARSAL EVERY EVENING STARTING AT 7:00. SO IF WE MEET EARLIER I CAN BE THERE FOR A WHILE AT LEAST I THINK LAST TIME DIDN'T WE MOVE IT AT 6:00 OR SOMETHING. WE HAD LIKE A YEAH, I MEAN I COULD, YOU KNOW, I COULD BE LATE TO MY OWN REHEARSAL A LITTLE BIT. BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BE PART OF THAT. WHEN DO REHEARSALS START? THEY'LL START ON THE FIFTH. OKAY. SO. OKAY. LUKE OR JULIO, ANYTHING. I'M OPEN. YOU'RE OPEN. IS THE FIFTH AVAILABLE? JUST THROWING IT OUT. WELL, ALEX NEEDS TIME TO. ONCE PEOPLE HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATIONS, THEN HE HAS TO MAKE COPIES. PUT IT TOGETHER. REMEMBER THERE'S HOLIDAY. MAKE SURE THAT THEY THAT THEY'VE DONE, THEY'VE HIT ALL THE BUTTONS. SO THAT MIGHT BE PUSHING IT A LITTLE BIT FOR ALEX. IF I HAD TO MAKE A SUGGESTION, I WOULD SAY EITHER THE 12TH OR 13TH. OKAY. AND I WAS THINKING THE 15TH. THURSDAY, 1213 MAYBE ANYTHING THAT WEEK. THAT'S FINE. IF WE WENT EARLY, HOW EARLY CAN WE DO FOR YOUNG PEOPLE WORK? I DON'T WORK, SO OKAY, OKAY, I WORK. SO WHAT WOULD BE THE THE EARLIEST THAT COULD BE A SIX. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? WHAT DAY. DO I WANT TO TRY THE 12TH MONDAY. THE 12TH. YEAH. 12TH 6 P.M. 6 P.M. OKAY. OKAY. ONE 12:06 P.M. AND THIS IS NOT OUR [00:20:10] REGULAR MEETING. THIS WILL BE JUST THE. ALL WE'LL DO IS REVIEW APPLICATIONS. THAT'S ALL WE'RE GOING TO DO. WE'LL STILL HAVE OUR OUR REGULAR MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE THE THE TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT. OKAY. HERE. I'LL. YEAH, YEAH. ALEX WILL LET US KNOW. YOU JUST WANTED A DATE AND THEN HE'LL LET US KNOW. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. COULD HE COULD ALEX SEND US PRIOR TO THE MEETING? THIS IS WHAT HE DOES. HE WILL PUT A PACKET TOGETHER. WHAT HE HAS IN THE PAST. NICE LITTLE BOOKLET, LIKE A FOLDER LIKE THIS. AND THEN HE'LL. HE'LL TELL US WHEN IT'S READY. YOU CAN COME UP TO THE CITY HALL AND PICK IT UP IF YOU WANT, AND HARD COPY, AND HE'LL HAVE IT ALL LAID OUT AND THEN THAT'S YOURS TO KEEP AND GO OVER. AND THEN WHEN WE MEET, WHEN WE MEET, WHETHER IT'S IN PERSON OR TEAMS, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE COULD HAVE DONE ON TEAMS IF WE WANT. BUT THEN WE GO OVER. BUT YES, HE PUTS A PACKET TOGETHER FOR US. OKAY. PERFECT. YEAH. SO WE COULD DO IT VIRTUALLY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WE COULD DO IT VIRTUALLY. BUT SINCE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO IT IN PERSON, LET'S GO AROUND FOR YOU ALL. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO. YES, MA'AM, CAN I, CAN I CONFIRM THAT YOU SAID THE 12TH AT 6 P.M. YES. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. IS THAT OKAY? IS THAT OKAY? IS THAT ALL RIGHT? YEAH. WELL. OKAY. OKAY, OKAY. ALRIGHTY. OKAY. MOVING ON TO NON PART FIVE NON ACTION ITEMS. [5.A. Review and discuss recommended changes to the Fiscal Year 2025-2026 Arts Funding Policy and Grant Guidelines. Provide feedback and recommendations that will be included in a version for the Arts Commission to consider during their January regular meeting.] WE'LL DISCUSS RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE 2025 2026 ARTS FUNDING POLICY AND GRANTS GUIDELINE. ANY FEEDBACK OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL NOT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THIS VERSION TO BE CONSIDERED, SO THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER IT AT THE JANUARY MEETING. HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH IT. ALEX USED A LOT OF THE COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS WE'VE MADE. IF YOU'VE READ THROUGH IT, THERE WAS ONE ITEM THAT WAS NOT IN HERE THAT WE SORT OF TALKED ABOUT THIS PAST WEEK, AND WE CAN INCLUDE IT OR NOT, BUT IT'S HOW TO HANDLE INDIVIDUALS THAT. GET APPROVED, GET THE MONEY AND THEN GIVE IT BACK. YES. RIGHT. WELL, IF THEY HAVEN'T, THEY RETURN A CHECK. THEN THAT'S ALMOST CONSIDERED LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED. AND WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK SHE'S GOING TO REAPPLY. BUT SOME PEOPLE WERE SAYING IF THEY PUT IT IN THEIR ACCOUNT AND THEN THEY REALIZE THAT THEY CAN'T DO IT AND THEN THEY RETURN, IT IS THERE. IS THERE A PENALTY OR IS THERE ANYTHING? HOW DO WE WANT TO EVEN ADDRESS THAT? DID WE HAVE DEADLINE FOR PERFORMANCE? WAS THAT. WE LET THE THEY TELL US. THEY TELL US WHEN THAT THEY WE LET THEM DECIDE. A LOT OF TIMES WE TELL THEM TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT THE CYCLE BEFORE THEY NEED IT, SO THAT THEY CAN FIGURE OUT IF THEY GET FUNDING OR NOT. BUT THEN THINGS HAPPEN. JUST LIKE I WENT TO THE GALLERY OF THE LADY UP THERE AND SHE WAS ONE OF OUR GRANT RECIPIENTS, BUT SHE HAS NOT HAD HER PROGRAM YET, AND SHE HAS SOME DELAYS BECAUSE OF WEATHER, SHE SAID, AND OTHER THINGS. AND SO AND SHE WAS LOOKING AT MAYBE APPLYING FOR A DIFFERENT GRANT. AND OF COURSE, I TOLD HER SHE CAN'T APPLY FOR ANOTHER GRANT BECAUSE SHE HASN'T COMPLETED THE FIRST ONE AND SHE'S COMPLETING IT. SHE'S DELINQUENT IN HER COMPLETION. WELL, THERE IS A DEADLINE THEN FOR COMPLETION. WELL, PRETTY MUCH, BUT THEY, YOU KNOW. YES, BUT WE PUT THE FLEXIBILITY IS GIVEN TO THEY TELL US WHEN THEY WEREN'T GOING TO DO IT AND THEN THEY, THEY JUST HAVE TO KEEP ALEX INFORMED. OKAY. SO THEY DO GIVE US A DEADLINE. YES. WE WORK WITH WHATEVER DATES THEY GIVE US AND THAT'S OUR EXPECTATION. IF YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT ON LEAP, LEAP DAY OR FEBRUARY 28TH AND AND WE'RE GOING WITH WHAT YOU SAY, OKAY. AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AND YOU NEED TO CHANGE IT, THEN YOU [00:25:07] JUST HAVE TO INFORM ALEX. BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T DISCUSS ANYTHING OF HOW DO YOU ALL FEEL IF SHOULD THERE BE ANY PENALTIES? DID YOU CATCH ME UP ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. WE ARE DOWN HERE AT THE FIVE A AND WE'RE REVIEWING THE CHANGES. RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE ARTS GRANT. FUNDING TO THE ARTS CALENDAR. NO, NO ARTS GRANT FUNDING. GRANT, GRANT FUNDING. OKAY. WE. HE HAS IT IN RED. HOPEFULLY HE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER IT. WE PUT SOME THINGS IN THERE THAT SEVERAL PEOPLE SUGGESTED OR RECOMMENDED. AND WE CAN GO OVER THEM A LITTLE BIT. IF YOU WANT TO GO BY PAGE BY PAGE. NO, I READ IT ALL. WE JUST SORT OF YEAH, WE JUST SORT OF EXPANDED ON SOME THINGS, CLARIFY, MADE IT MORE GIVEN GIVEN THE, THE APPLICANT MORE INFORMATION IN A LOT OF IT. BUT THE ONLY THING WE DID NOT INCLUDE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WE CAN DO IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. BUT WHAT DO YOU DO IF THE APPLICANT IS UNABLE TO FULFILL THEIR OBLIGATION? THEY'VE RECEIVED THE FUNDS AND THEN THEY PUT IN THEIR CASH A CHECK. THESE PEOPLE DIDN'T CASH THE CHECK, BUT THEY CASHED IT. AND THEN THEY AND THEN THEY, BUT THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND GET THE MONEY BACK. DID THEY OPT OUT OR OR SOMETHING MAY HAVE HAPPENED OKAY. AND THEY CAN'T PERFORM. SO ARE WE DISCUSSING IS THERE A DO WE REFUND. IS THAT. WELL, WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE SHOULD BE ANYTHING IN OUR POLICY TO THAT SPEAKS TO THAT. YES OKAY OKAY. YEAH. I YOU KNOW, HAVING RECEIVED FUNDS FOR A LOT OF YEARS, I CAN KIND OF SPEAK ON MY EXPERIENCE. SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT A CASE BY CASE BASIS, MAYBE WE JUST HAD A GENERAL COMMENT THAT SAYS THE ARTS COMMISSION HAS THE RIGHT TO REVIEW THE INFORMATION, BECAUSE I THINK IF THEY JUST DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE THEY WERE FLAKY AND DISORGANIZED, THAT'S ONE THING. IF THEY HAD WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT BECAUSE OF WEATHER OR BECAUSE UNFORESEEN EVENTS, I'VE HAD SITUATIONS BEFORE WHERE WE THOUGHT WE HAD THE RIGHTS TO PRODUCE A SHOW, AND THEN SOMETHING FELL THROUGH AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT, AND THAT WAS YEARS AGO. BUT I CAN THINK ABOUT THAT AND I THINK, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, I WOULD HATE TO BE PUNISHED BECAUSE OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WERE KIND OF BEYOND MY, MY CONTROL. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HAVE SOME ABILITY TO ASSESS THAT. OKAY. THE THING I RECOMMEND IS KIND OF WHAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE IS THEY CAN APPLY FOR ANOTHER ONE UNTIL EITHER REPAID OR EVENT IS THERE EVER BE A TIME, A TWO YEARS OUT AND THERE STILL HASN'T BEEN PERFORMANCE? THEN THEY CAN NEVER APPLY FOR AGAIN. THEY COULD JUST NEVER APPLY FOR A GRANT AGAIN. NEVER APPLIED. OKAY, OKAY. IS THERE I GUESS. WHAT IS YOUR NAME? I'M KIND OF NEW. MAC. MAC, I KIND OF AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAID. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD JUST EXCLUDE THEM BECAUSE UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES. I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND I DO THINK GIVE THEM A TIMELINE. IF THEY DON'T FULFILL THE TIMELINE, THEN WE'D TAKE IT TO THE NEXT STEP. AND THAT IS CANCEL THEM UNTIL THE MONEY'S PAID. OR THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EXTEND THEIR DAY BECAUSE THINGS DO HAPPEN. SPECIAL EXTENSION? YES, YES, A DEADLINE WITH A POSSIBLE EXTENSION. YES. OKAY. OKAY. IF SUBMITTED FOR THE POSSIBLE EXTENSION. YES. AND THEN DETERMINE WHAT THAT DEADLINE LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM. I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD ONLY BE FAIR TO THEM BECAUSE THINGS DO HAPPEN. SO 30 DAYS, 60 DAYS, WHATEVER, GIVE THEM. AND THEN IF IT'S NOT FULFILLED, THEN WE COULD GO BACK AND SAY, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT GIVING A REFUND, BUT AT LEAST LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES WILL BE IN THE EVENT THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO UPHOLD THE EVENT THAT THEY HAD SCHEDULED, WOULDN'T THERE HAVE TO BE SOMETHING WRITTEN IN THE LANGUAGE? IF YOU EVER DID ASK FOR THEM TO RETURN THE FUNDS FOR NONPERFORMANCE PENALTY, PENALTY OR BUT THE LANGUAGE, SHOULDN'T THERE BE SOME LANGUAGE LIKE IF YOU LIKE FULLY AND THE GRANT IS, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING IN THE GRANT THAT WOULD SPEAK TO THAT. YEAH, YOU COULDN'T ASK. AND WE SHOULD HAVE IN WRITING. YEAH. SOMETHING HAS TO BE IN WRITING. WELL WE HAVE IT ON. WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE IS WHAT'S ON PAGE 11. OKAY. LET'S LOOK AT THAT. [00:30:04] MAYBE THAT SPEAKS TO IT AND I JUST DIDN'T. WHICH LETTER IF YOU YOU CAN YOU WOULD LOOK UNDER UNUSED FUNDS. PAGE 11 UNUSED FUNDS AND FUTURE ELIGIBILITY WHICH IS WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT. WHAT LETTER IS THAT. YEAH IT'S RIGHT THERE. IT'S RIGHT HERE. HERE IN THE RED. OKAY. WELL, YOU HAVE TO LOOK UNDER THE GRANTS POLICY. I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG PAGE. SO IT'S 11 IN THIS PACKET. SO THAT'S THREE. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. 11. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UNUSED. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND IN NONPERFORMANCE AND FUTURE INELIGIBLE INELIGIBILITY. SO IF WE'RE HAPPY WITH THAT THEN THAT'S FINE. WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. AND LIKE I SAY ON CASE BY CASE BASIS, WELL, I THINK THIS IS OUR ANSWER. IT SAYS THAT THEY WILL ANY GRANT FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN DISBURSED MUST BE RETURNED OR REPAID IN FULL BY THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, BUT IT DOESN'T GIVE A SPECIFIC TERM. SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ONLY LANGUAGE THAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT. YEAH, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S. YEAH. INTERPRETATION. YEAH. I MEAN, THEY CAN JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT, BUT WHEN YOU GIVE PEOPLE A CERTAIN DATE, I THINK THE WORDING IS FINE, BUT WE JUST NEED TO GIVE THEM A DATE. I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE WITHIN 30 DAYS, SAY WITHIN 30 DAYS, WITHIN 30 DAYS OF CANCELLATION. WELL, THEY PROBABLY WOULD NEVER SAY I'M NOT CANCELING IT. IT'S JUST THEY'RE GOING TO DEFER IT. WELL, ONCE THEY MAKE THAT DECISION NOT TO DO IT. YEAH. ONCE THEY MAKE THAT DECISION NOT TO DO AT LEAST RETURN IT WITHIN 30 DAYS. YEAH. RETURN OF FUNDS. OKAY. 30 DAYS. SO OTHER THAN THAT, WERE THERE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE WOULD YOU READ. BECAUSE HE TOOK A LOT OF THE INFORMATION MORE SO WITH THE FORMER, THE CURRENT COMMISSIONERS AND SOME OF THE FORMER COMMISSIONERS HAD SAID, BECAUSE WE HAD GONE OVER THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES, WE CHANGED THINGS LIKE ELIGIBILITY, EXPANDING IT, THE PERSON CAN WE FEEL THAT WE OUGHT TO OPEN IT UP, AND INDIVIDUALS WHO EVEN LIVE OUTSIDE OF DUNCANVILLE BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY. THE ACTIVITY JUST HAS TO TAKE PLACE. ONE LAST THING ON PAGE 11. OKAY? PROVIDE A FINAL REPORT. NOW, EVEN FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T BEFORE THEY PROVIDED. BUT THERE IS NO INDICATION OF WHEN THAT REPORT HAS TO BE SUBMITTED. OKAY. SO DOES THAT MEAN I CAN JUST KEEP SAYING I'M GOING TO PROVIDE YOU A REPORT AND SUBMIT IT? NO, I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A SOMEWHAT IT WAS IN HERE THAT YOU PROVIDE THE REPORT. I THOUGHT IT SAID 30 DAYS AFTER. DO YOU SOMEBODY SEE IT? I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. YEAH. I BELIEVE THAT WAS I THINK THAT WAS IN HERE ORIGINALLY. I'D HAVE TO GO LOOK AT IT. I THINK LONG AFTER. I'M SORRY. WHAT DID YOU SAY? I DON'T THINK IT WAS VERY LONG. I DON'T THINK IT WAS 30 DAYS. RIGHT. THEY WERE JUST SAYING THAT AS SOON AS IT WAS OVER. I THINK THE FIRST PARAGRAPH WHERE WE ADDED RETURN FUNDS WITHIN 30 DAYS, I THINK THAT SHOULD COINCIDE WITH THE PROVIDE THE FINAL REPORT. MAYBE LEAVE THEM BOTH THE SAME. I THOUGHT YOU FOUND IT. YEAH. IT'S ON PAGE TEN. IT'S ON PAGE 45. DAYS OF COMPLETING THE PROJECT. OKAY, OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY OKAY OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANKS. GIVING THEM 15 MORE DAYS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO ARE WE GOOD WITH THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES AND. PROBABLY GO TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE ALEX WILL TAKE THIS AND RUN IT BY LEGAL ONE MORE TIME. AND THEN AND THEN CAN YOU REINSTATE THE COMMENT AGAIN REGARDING THE CHANGE. WHICH CHANGE FOR THE ALL THE CHANGES ARE IN THE RED. BUT WE MADE AN ADDITION, RIGHT. OH, THE THE ONLY ADDITION WAS ON PAGE 11. THE FIRST PARAGRAPH AT THE END, VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH UNDER UNUSED FUNDS AND FUTURE ELIGIBILITY. YES, AT THE VERY END OR REPAID IN FULL TO THE [00:35:01] CITY OF DUNCANVILLE WITHIN 30 DAYS. SAY THAT AGAIN, WE'RE JUST ADDING WITHIN 30 DAYS. YEAH, JUST UNDER UNUSED FUNDS AND FUTURE ELIGIBILITY. THIS NEXT ONE TALKS ABOUT TWO AMOUNT NONPERFORMANCE. SO. OKAY. IN BOTH OKAY. HE'S SAYING IT SHOULD BE IN BOTH UNUSED AND NONPERFORMANCE THAT THEY SHOULD RETURN. ANY GRANT FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN DISBURSED MUST BE RETURNED OR REPAID IN FULL TO THE CITY OF DUNCAN BILL WITHIN 30 DAYS. SO YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE UNUSED, IT'S THAT THEY TOOK THEM AND NONPERFORMANCE. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD ONE. YEAH, YEAH. IS THERE ANY MENTION REGARDING THE SPECIAL ATTENTION? NO, BUT WE CAN JUST DO THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE SAYING, THAT MAYBE WE JUST LET'S WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS GOING FORWARD. AND IS THAT WHAT THAT THE LAST SENTENCE IN THAT PARAGRAPH, IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH SAYS PROVIDE NOTICE MAY RESULT LIKE BASICALLY FAILURE TO RETURN FUNDS OR PROVIDE NOTICE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS ANYWAYS, RIGHT? YEAH. WELL AND DISQUALIFICATION I MEAN THAT IT'S GOT TO PUT A PERIOD THERE. COMMENT. THE ONLY AREA THAT I'M A LITTLE AND I THINK IT'S FINE LIKE IT IS, BUT I DO WANT TO, AT LEAST FOR THE RECORD, SAY ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT MUST OCCUR IN DUNCANVILLE CITY LIMITS. I WOULD LOVE IT TO SAY THE CITY LIMITS SLASH SCHOOL DISTRICT, BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT WE HAD A COUPLE OF ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS OR MIDDLE SCHOOLS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, BUT THEY'RE DUNCANVILLE ISD SCHOOLS, AND THEY MIGHT HAVE A PROGRAM THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO APPLY FOR. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ADDRESS THAT. IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT. YEAH, WE DID, WE DID, AND I'M FINE WITH IT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE WHERE WHERE IT SAYS LIKE IT'S REALLY THE SINGLE PROJECT. OH, I SEE WHERE IT SAYS REQUIREMENT MUST OCCUR IN DUNCANVILLE CITY LIMITS. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND WE WERE VERY FIRM ABOUT WANTING IT TO BE IN DUNCANVILLE. BUT WE'RE IN THAT UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE SCHOOL DISTRICT BOUNDARIES ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN OUR INTO DALLAS. YEAH. SO I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO SAY CITY LIMITS SLASH DUNCANVILLE ISD BOUNDARIES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. COULD WE NOT THOUGH HAVE THAT SINCE THERE'S LOTS OF FACILITIES WITHIN THE DISTRICT THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE THEIR EVENT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND STILL REMAIN? WELL, EVEN IF IT'S A SCHOOL THAT'S OUTSIDE. WELL, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY I WAS THINKING LIKE IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE ONE IN THEIR SCHOOL, CAFETORIUM HAVE A BIG EVENT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT AND NOT HAVE TO HAVE IT OUTSIDE WHERE. YEAH, EVERYTHING ELSE, I DON'T KNOW. I WAS JUST THINKING OF THE PTA OR, YOU KNOW, THE LIKE A 500 1C3. AND I MAY BE THINKING I MAY BE OVERTHINKING IT, WHICH I DO A LOT, BUT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME SCHOOLS. YEAH. I JUST DIDN'T WANT I MEAN, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO FORCE THEM TO HAVE BECAUSE I KNOW HOW BUSY THE OTHER VENUES ARE, LIKE TRYING TO GET A DATE AT ONE OF THE HIGH SCHOOL. MY MY CONCERN IS IF WE SET A PRECEDENT, THEN WE'RE BLURRING THE CITY LIMITS REQUIREMENT THAT WE FELT STRONGLY ABOUT BEFORE. DID YOU NOT SAY THE CITY LIMITS? PLUS DUNCANVILLE ISD SCHOOL LIKE DUNCANVILLE ISD PROPERTIES? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS SAYING. ISD WELL, I'M JUST LIKE ON THE PHRASING, LIKE IT'S THE CITY, DUNCANVILLE CITY LIMITS OR DUNCANVILLE ISD PROPERTY. LIKE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO SKIRT, RIGHT? RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH. BECAUSE I'M SAYING ON THE PROPERTY. YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M NOT SAYING OUTSIDE, I JUST. RIGHT. I WOULD HATE FOR A REALLY COOL OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT SOME AN ART SHOW WOULD COME UP AND THEN WE COULDN'T DO IT BECAUSE THEY WERE ACTING, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS IN DALLAS. SO YOU'LL NEVER GET ANY APPLICATIONS FROM DUNCANVILLE ISD. ANY APPLICANTS TO THAT HAS APPLIED. WE WE DIDN'T. THERE WAS A ONE INDIVIDUAL. THEY LIVED IN FORT WORTH, BUT THE ACTOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS DUNCANVILLE ISD. AND SO THEY WERE TRYING TO BRING IT TO DUNCANVILLE AND USE THEIR ACTOR AS PART OF THE. AND PROBABLY, PROBABLY MAY HAVE FOUND THE SCHOOL OR SOMETHING IF SHE COULD HAVE DONE IT. YEAH, I DO KNOW THAT COMMUNITY THEATER BEFORE HAS TOURED SHOWS TO ALL THE ELEMENTARIES, AND WE'LL DO 5 OR 6 ELEMENTARIES IN ONE DAY, AND WHEN WE DO IT, WE ALWAYS GO TO IF WE DO IT, IF WE WERE TO. I'M HYPOTHETICALLY HERE, IF WE WERE TO APPLY FOR A GRANT, THEN THAT WOULD BE PERFORMING OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. NO, THAT MAKES SENSE. ANYWAY, THAT WAS THE ONLY TIME WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT BEFORE. SO THAT WAS THE [00:40:02] ONLY COMMENT THAT I READ IT ON. ANY OTHERS. OKAY. OKAY. SO. WE'LL JUST HAVE THOSE TWO CHANGES. WE'LL LET ALEX KNOW AND WE SHOULD BE GOOD. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS FALLS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE NOW, BUT BUT FIELD HOUSE MURAL WASN'T THAT APPROVED IN THE LAST GROUPINGS OF GRANTS APPLICATION? THE FIELD HOUSE MURALS? YES. WE STILL ARE. WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THEM. IT'S ON THE AGENDA. IT IS ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. BECAUSE I'M REALLY WONDERING ABOUT HOW THAT IS EVOLVED. WE HAVE THAT COMING UP. OKAY. VERY GOOD. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. REGARDS TO THE POLICY AND GRANT GUIDELINES. OH SO FOR THE NOT ELIGIBLE PORTION RIGHT ON PAGE SIX, APPLICANTS WHO HAVE RECEIVED A PRIOR GRANT BUT HAVE NOT YET COMPLETED A FUNDED PROJECT OR FAILED TO SUBMIT THE REQUIRED FILE FOR FUNDING UNTIL ALL OBLIGATIONS ARE FULFILLED. SEEMS A LITTLE GRAY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BECAUSE LIKE IT SAYS SO, ALL OBLIGATIONS ARE FULFILLED. SO AT THAT POINT THEY SHOULD JUST BE INELIGIBLE FOR LIKE EITHER LIKE, YOU KNOW, TWO CYCLES OR NO, THEY CAN'T GET IT. THEY CAN'T GET A GRANT AT ALL. SO LIKE COMPLETELY CUT OFF AND LIKE, DO THEY HAVE TO DO LIKE A REIMBURSEMENT AT THAT POINT. RIGHT. THEY CAN'T GET ANY NEW FUNDING OR ANYTHING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T TRUST IT IF WE COULDN'T TRUST THEM TO DO IT WITH THE FIRST AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'VE GIVEN THEM AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO GIVE THEM ADDITIONAL FUNDS. SO THAT'S WE HAVE TO HAVE WE HAVE TO WE HAVE OUR FIDUCIARY DUTIES. SO AND STUFF LIKE THIS. SO SURE. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT COINCIDES WITH SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE THAT WERE WRITTEN IN. BUT WE WERE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT DON'T ASK US. JUST LIKE I SAID, I WAS AT THE GALLERY AND THE YOUNG LADY HAD SOME OTHER IDEAS, BUT I MEAN, HER IDEAS, SHE CAN DO THEM. SHE JUST CAN'T REQUEST A GRANT FROM US BECAUSE SHE HASN'T COMPLETED HER FIRST ONE YET. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM OF DISCUSSION FIVE B. MIDNIGHT MURALS. THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION. THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. OH. I'M SORRY. OKAY. [Items 5.B. & 5.C.] THAT'S NEXT. AFTER THAT. OKAY. MIDNIGHT MURALS. AND ACTUALLY I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MIDNIGHT MURALS AND THE DUNCANVILLE FIELDHOUSE MURALS. THE THE DUNCANVILLE FIELDHOUSE, I MEAN, THE THE MIDNIGHT MURALS THAT IS STILL ONGOING DISCUSSION AND WORK GOING ON WITH THAT. ALEX MET WITH POLICE CHIEF, AND HE JUST HAS SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME BUDGET ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND HE DIDN'T WANT TO COMMAND HIS OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, WORKING AT NIGHT. THEY STILL HAVE THEIR JOBS TO DO, BUT. HE HAD SOME OVERTIME CONCERNS AND, AND SECURITY FOR DOING THE MIDNIGHT MURALS. SO THERE'S STILL SOME DISCUSSION GOING ON ABOUT THAT. AS FAR AS THE MIDNIGHT MURALS, I'M SORT OF GOING TO BRING B AND C TOGETHER BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DUNCANVILLE, OR THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO US OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS ABOUT THE DUNCANVILLE FIELDHOUSE MURAL AND THE CALL FOR ARTISTS PLAN. SO WHY THEY'RE STILL DISCUSSING HOW TO GO ABOUT WITH THE MIDNIGHT MURALS AND AND SECURITY AND ETC. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR SUGGESTIONS THAT CAME UP IN ALEX AND I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY GOOD, SINCE THEY ALREADY HAD THEIR BUDGET AND THEY'RE READY, IS HOW WOULD YOU ALL FEEL IF WE WE. HAVE MR. FERGUSON DO THE FIELDHOUSE AS THE FIRST MURAL. BECAUSE THE GENTLEMAN WANTS IT DONE. WHEN THE KIDS TALKED TO US, HE WAS [00:45:09] JUST ASKING US ABOUT SELECTING AN ARTIST. MR. FERGUSON IS READY TO DO SOME MURALS, AND HE'S DONE PLENTY AROUND HERE PRETTY GOOD. YOU KNOW, HE'S A GOOD ARTIST. AND MAYBE MAKING THAT ONE OF OUR FIRST, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DUNCANVILLE FIELDHOUSE, BUT ALMOST LIKE THE MIDNIGHT MURAL TYPE OF THING. BUT THAT THAT'D BE THE FIRST MURAL PROJECT. OKAY, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CONTEST OR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIND AN ARTIST. WE'VE THIS HAS BEEN ON ON OUR TABLE FOR THE ARTS TABLE FOR A WHILE, AND IT'S DRAGGED ON AND IT SORT OF FELL OFF AND DRAGGED ON. AND THE GENTLEMAN IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD. HE'S GOT THE BUDGET. HE'S HE'S READY. AND WE HAVE AN ARTIST THAT'S READY TO DO SOMETHING. MR. FERGUSON, WHY NOT MAKE THAT THE. THE THE MURAL, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST MURAL, NOT THE FIRST MEAL, BUT. WOULD HE STILL TRY AND DO IT AT NIGHT IF THERE WOULD STILL BE THE SAME SECURITY CONCERNS? HE PROBABLY. I DON'T KNOW. WE'D HAVE TO. WE'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH THEM OR. THIS IS A SUGGESTION. EXCUSE ME. THIS IS A SUGGESTION THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND AND MAYBE BRING MR. FERGUSON TO THE TABLE AND TALK TO HIM ABOUT DOING THAT, SINCE WE'RE STILL WAITING ON SOME OF THESE LATE ONES, HE PROBABLY WON'T BE DOING THEM IN THE MIDNIGHT. YEAH. AND SINCE IT'S HE'S IT'S THE CITY, THE FIELDHOUSE. AND HE'S DOING IT FOR. US. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE ALREADY BUDGETED. THEY GOT THE MONEY. THEY'RE READY TO MOVE ON IT I THINK HE SAID AT LEAST BY JANUARY OR FEBRUARY HE'D LIKE TO GET IT STARTED. THIS IS THIS IS BETTER THAN DOING SOME TYPE OF CONTEST OR, YOU KNOW, DRAGGING IT OUT, TRYING TO GET IT OFF OUR PLATE. I LIKE IT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. BUT I HAVE A QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE BACKGROUND OF THIS MIDNIGHT MURAL. WHAT WERE THEY DOING GOING OUT AT NIGHT, PAINTING WALLS? IS THAT WHAT I SHOULD UNDERSTAND? YEAH. IF YOU IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT YOUR IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT YOUR IT'S RIGHT HERE. RIGHT. IT'S IN THERE. AND IT'S ALSO IN YOUR ORIGINAL PACKET THAT HE GAVE YOU WHEN YOU FIRST CAME ON BOARD. IT LOOKED IN THE MINUTES. IT WAS A PROGRAM FOR YOUTH GETTING THEM OUT THERE. THEY WERE GOING TO PICK 4 OR 5 BUILDINGS OF WALLS DONATED WITHIN THE CITY AND DO MURALS ON IT, AND HAVE THE YOUTH DOING THE PAINTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THEY'RE JUST WORKING OUT THE LOGISTICS ON IT. OKAY, THE CONCERNS ARE SECURITY AND LOCATION AND LIGHTING AND HOW MUCH GOING TO BE NEEDED. AND OVER TIME, COST TO THE CITY, BECAUSE CITY HAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S BEEN SOME DELAYS IN THAT, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME WALLS THAT WERE SELECTED. THERE MIGHT BE MORE INFORMATION IN THE MINUTES OF YOUR OF YOUR OLD UP THERE THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU. BUT THAT'S SOME OF IT. SO THAT'S ONE PROJECT. AND THE FIELDHOUSE WAS A MURAL THAT HAD COME TO US 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO. WAS IT THE FIRST YEAR? YEAH, YEAH. AND IT'S BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH AND DIFFERENT THINGS. WELL HE'S GOT THE MONEY NOW. IT'S, IT'S BEEN BUDGETED. AND HE JUST CAME TO US FOR AN ARTIST AND YOU KNOW, AND THEY WERE SAYING, OKAY, WE CAN DO AN RFP AND PERHAPS HAVE A, A CONTEST OR SOMETHING, A LOT OF DIFFERENT WORK, YOU KNOW, DELAYS A LOT OF. YEAH. AND IT'S LIKE, WE NEED TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD. I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT DESIGN WHO GETS TO SELECT THE DESIGN THAT AND I KNOW CURTIS WELL RIGHT. BUT WHO'S GOING TO GET TO SELECT THE FINAL DESIGN. IS THAT GOING TO BE SOMETHING. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MR. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING MR. FERGUSON WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE FIELDHOUSE. OKAY. THAT'S PRETTY RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. HE WOULD BRING SOMETHING FORWARD AND THEY WOULD YAY OR NAY IT AND CONTINUE. AND US, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IT TOO. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. YEAH WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IT TOO. WOULD WE LIKE PRE APPROVE IT. WE COULD AND THEN LIKE PUSH IT FORWARD. BUT AT LEAST THE OPTIONS WE WE VOUCHED FOR WERE PRIOR PRIOR REVIEWED BY US. YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING YES [00:50:07] HERE WE HAVE AN ARTIST FOR YOU. BECAUSE WHEN HE CAME TO OUR MEETING THAT LAST TIME HE WANTED AN ARTIST. WE GOT YOU AN ARTIST. HE'S GOT HE'S GOT EXPERIENCE WITH MURALS. HE'S KNOWN HE'S HERE IN DUNCANVILLE. SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THAT'S SO. SO THAT'S WHY WE SORT OF BRINGING THE TWO TOGETHER AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT MIDNIGHT MURAL THING, BUT LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FIELDHOUSE SINCE IT'S READY. SECOND PART OF THAT, JUST BECAUSE WE WERE REVIEWING LIKE THE THE LIKE THE ADDITIONAL WORK TO FINDING A MURAL IS WHATEVER ADDITIONAL MURALIST AND THEN MAKING THEM SUBMIT FOR LIKE A CONTEST I DON'T KNOW YEAH I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE KIND OF COOL IF WE DO LIKE THE BACK END OF THAT WORK FOR POSSIBLE FUTURE STUFF JUST SO WE CAN GET THAT READY, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS KIND OF LIKE, LIKE LABORIOUS. SO IF WE IF WE KIND OF DO THAT, IF, LET'S SAY WE PROCEED WITH THIS GENTLEMAN NOW, LIKE, OKAY, COOL. BUT FOR FUTURE PROJECTS HAVE LIKE A FRAMEWORK DONE THAT WAY. IF YOU KNOW MORE MURALS HAPPEN OR MIDNIGHT MURALS, WHATEVER OR OTHER PROJECTS LIKE THAT, WE KIND OF HAVE A SYSTEM GOING ON WHERE WE COULD JUST THROW IT OUT THERE. IT'S ALREADY DONE. JUST EDIT IT, ADJUST IT, AND YEAH, BECAUSE THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE MURALS AROUND BECAUSE I KNOW THE NEW HOTEL THAT'S COMING UP HAS MADE MENTION ABOUT MAYBE WANTING SOME MURALS DONE. YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT'S GOING UP AT SHAYLA'S CHAMBER, POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE MURALS THAT I WAS TALKING TO ACTUALLY HAD JUST PAINTED THE ADOLPHUS HOTEL IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS. WOW. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE KIND OF COOL FOR. YEAH. YEAH. SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT. AND THEN LIKE I SAID, WE'LL HAVE OTHER MURALS. PEOPLE. IT SEEMS TO BE VERY POPULAR. IT IS. YEAH. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF WE COULD GET AHEAD OF A FORMAT THAT WILL BE PREPARED AS THEY COME, WE'LL BE BETTER PREPARED. YES. YEAH. THAT WAY, INSTEAD OF TAKING TWO YEARS, WE'RE LIKE, YES, TWO HOURS. YEAH, I AGREE, I LOVE MURALS, I DO, I DO TOO. IT TAKES AN OLD, IT TAKES AN OLD PIECE AND MAKES IT LOOK NEW. YES. I MEAN IT REALLY BRINGS LIFE TO IT. YEAH. BECAUSE A LADY CAME TO ONE OF THE MEETINGS AND SHE CITY HALL MEETINGS, I BELIEVE SHE WANTED THEM TO FINISH THE FACES AND EVERYTHING OF THE ONE ON COCKRELL HILL. AND THEY'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME ARTISTS TO PROBABLY FINISH THAT, IF NOT THE PARISH, BUT YEAH, HE'S PART OF THAT TOO. SO BUT THIS, THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE TO MOVE THE FIELD HOUSE PROJECT BECAUSE THE FIELD HOUSE REALLY THEY'RE WANTING TO GET THIS DONE. SO SO THE CONSENSUS IS YES WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. YES. WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION OR ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT. NO. BECAUSE HE'S A NON ACTION ON PLUS WE'VE IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND EVERYTHING. IT WAS JUST NOT JUST AN ARTIST. HE JUST WANTED AN OVERALL JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF HE WANTED TO GIVE HIM AN ARTIST. YEAH YEAH. CAN I HAVE A COMMENT. SO A BECAUSE I WAS DEVELOPING LIKE A LITTLE. ONLINE ENTRY FORM FOR. TO LIKE LOOK FOR ARTISTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS LIKE HOLDING ME BACK WAS JUST LIKE, WHAT? WHAT DOMAIN OR LIKE WHATEVER.COM OR WHAT EMAIL SHOULD I USE? BECAUSE TO EXPERIMENT WITH LIKE A DATABASE LIKE THAT, OR IS THERE LIKE A CITY PERSON THAT WE SHOULD BE USING THAT THAT PROVIDES US LIKE A, A LINK TO MAKE IT MORE OFFICIAL? YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT HAS. YEAH. INSTEAD OF JUST LIKE JULIO. YES. YEAH. I BELIEVE THERE'S AN ARTS COMMISSION EMAIL IS THERE NOT. YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND USING IS THE ARTS COMMISSION EMAIL OKAY. AND IF AND WHEN IT COMES TO QR CODES AND ALL THAT STUFF YOU'D GO THROUGH ALEX, WE'D MAKE SURE ALEX IS AWARE OF ALL THAT STUFF. YOU CAN'T GO OUT THERE ON YOUR OWN AND DO IT. I MEAN, YOU COULD DO IT WHEN YOU'RE TESTING YOUR STUFF AND DOING YOUR STUFF, BUT YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T OFFICIALLY PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE UNDER ARTS COMMISSION ON YOUR OWN WITHOUT GOING THROUGH. YEAH, ALEX AND US. SO IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY, SO CAN I ASK A SIMILAR QUESTION REGARDING THAT AVENUE? SO IN THE PREVIOUS [00:55:12] CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE ATTENDED, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT I KIND OF THREW MY NAME OUT THERE AS LIKE A LIAISON COMMITTEE BETWEEN THE CITY AND BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE ART COMMISSION. SO THERE THEY WERE CREATING LIKE A LIAISON COMMITTEE TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN OUR COMMITTEE AND THEN LIKE THE CITY COMMITTEE. BUT THEN MY QUESTION THAT I HAD WAS LIKE, ISN'T THAT, LIKE KIND OF REDUNDANT, LIKE A TIME WASTER? BECAUSE SHOULDN'T WE BE THE ONES TO SHOULDN'T WE ALSO, LIKE, HAVE THAT ABILITY WITHIN OURSELVES TO JUST CUT OUT THE MIDDLEMAN AND REACH OUT TO THE RESPECTIVE PARTIES AT THE CITY, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'D BE KIND OF LIKE YOU GUYS ARE SAYING ABOUT THE MURAL, JUST WASTING TWO YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, THEN WE THEN THEY HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THEIR MEETING AND THEN IT JUST GOES ON. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT NEW. YEAH, CULTURAL GROUP THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO. I FORGOT THE NAME. WAIT A SECOND. I WAS JUST THE LIAISON COMMITTEE. YES, MISS GOODEN. SHE PUT IN. MY QUESTION IS, IS HE REFERRING TO THE ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICT STEERING COMMITTEE? YES, YES. OKAY, SO WE HAVE WE HAVE A RESOLUTION COMING. IT HASN'T IT'S NOT ON THIS UPCOMING COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH WILL BE TOMORROW NIGHT. I'M THINKING LATER IN JANUARY, THERE WILL BE A RESOLUTION SPEAKING TO THE ARTS COMMISSION, FORMING A STEERING COMMITTEE AND PICKING A CHAIR FOR THAT STEERING COMMITTEE WHO WOULD HELP GUIDE THE ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS COMMISSION OF THE ARTS AND HOW THEY RECOMMEND GO ABOUT ESTABLISHING A CULTURAL DISTRICT FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME. SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, THAT'S THAT'S IT IS IT IS IT IS IT IS. OKAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I MEAN, IT'S A REQUIREMENT. IT'S A IT'S A SUGGESTION THOUGH, RIGHT. WELL, IT'S A STATE REQUIREMENT. IT'S A REQUIREMENT BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE ARMSTRONG PARK AREA AND EVERYTHING. THIS AREA DESIGNATED AS A CULTURAL DISTRICT SO THAT IT WILL OPEN UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE FUNDS AND GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THERE ARE SOME THERE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS. AND THAT COMMITTEE, THAT STEERING COMMITTEE IS A REQUIREMENT BY THE. STATE. YEAH. OKAY. WELL EITHER WAY I APPLIED FOR IT WITH THE I GUESS, ONE OF THE REPS THAT WAS HERE. ASKING IF ANY ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WAS INTERESTED. I TALKED TO HER AFTER, AND I SUGGESTED THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED BECAUSE I'M ALSO IN THIS. SO I COULD HAVE LIKE A. A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF LIKE WHAT WE WANT. YEAH. OKAY. SO OKAY. THAT ANSWER. RIGHT. BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T CUT OUT BECAUSE IT'S REQUIRED REQUIREMENT. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THEN THAT COMMITTEE GOES AWAY AFTER THEY FINISH THE WHOLE CULTURAL DISTRICT THING OKAY. IT ONCE IT'S APPROVED. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. HEARING NONE WE'RE GOING TO [5.D. Q2 Grant Application Update] MOVE TOWARDS THE QUARTER GRANT APPLICATION UPDATE AND TIMELINE. WE'RE IN THAT TIME PERIOD NOW. AS OF LAST WEEK WE HAD ONE GRANT APPLICATION. HAS THAT CHANGED? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE APPLICATION. BUT THAT CAN EASILY CHANGE BECAUSE THEY HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH TO SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION. SO OUR MEETING ON THE SIXTH, ON THE 12TH IT COULD GO QUICKLY OR IT COULD BE A SHORT MEETING OR A LONG MEETING. BUT YEAH THAT HAPPENED. SO THAT'S THE TIMELINE. BLESS YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT AREA [5.E. Podcast] I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PODCASTS. AND MARIANNE IS GOING TO TAKE THIS ONE. THIS IS ONE THAT SHE AND JULIO HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING. MARIANNE. DID YOU SAY NO PODCASTS? OKAY. THIS IS THE [01:00:08] AUDIO IS NOT GREAT. YES, MA'AM. WELL, THIS IS ANOTHER IDEA THAT IS NOT NEW. THE MOTIVATION FOR IT INITIALLY WAS TO ADD ANOTHER LAYER OF COMMUNICATION FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE ARTS COUNCIL. AS YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT WE DO ARE TO DO THINGS LIKE PHONE CALLS, LETTERS IN THE MAIL, EVEN FLIERS, OR JUST NOT AS EFFECTIVE ANYMORE. A PODCAST IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CURRENT WAYS TO TO GET NEWS OUT, AND MY THINKING INITIALLY WAS TO HAVE IT BE JUST FOR ARTISTS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A 15 MINUTE. EPISODE EVERY WEEK AND DRAW FROM PEOPLE IN DUNCANVILLE, OR WHO WERE COMING TO DUNCANVILLE OR HAD SOME TIES TO DUNCANVILLE. WE HAVE A LET'S SEE, IT WAS LAST YEAR, I THINK. ANGELA, IF YOU COULD CORRECT ME, WE HAD A YOUNG MAN WHO LIVES IN NEW YORK AND BROUGHT HIS SHOW TO THE TO THE NASHER, AND IT WAS A SPECTACULAR THING FOR DUNCANVILLE, REALLY. AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT IF WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAD A QUICK INTERVIEW WITH HIM. I DID ONE JUST AS A MODEL WITH COUNCILMAN KOONTZ. HE HAPPENS TO BE A VERY FINE PIANIST. AND SO THAT EXISTS SOMEPLACE HE HAD HE DOES A PODCAST HIMSELF. SO HE HAD THE THE MEANS TO DO IT. SO NOW IF WE ARE LOOKING AT IT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO GO FORWARD. I DON'T KNOW ANY MORE THAN IT NEEDS TO BE JUST ARTISTS ABOUT TOWN. I THINK IT COULD BE BROADER THAN THAT. PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION, PERHAPS PEOPLE. WHO ARE ON THE COUNCIL, I MEAN THE CITY COUNCIL, NOT JUST OUR OUR COMMISSION, BUT WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE 15 MINUTES FOR SOME SORT OF NEWS. SO THAT PART, I THINK HAS LOTS OF POSSIBILITIES. I DON'T THINK WE'D HAVE ANY TROUBLE FILLING A WEEKLY PODCAST. THE SECOND THING IS THAT THE CITY DOES OWN ALL THE EQUIPMENT NEEDED TO PRODUCE PODCASTS. THIS WE KNEW ACTUALLY SOME TIME AGO, BUT THERE WAS SOME QUESTION WHERE TO PUT IT, HOW TO USE IT. BUT APPARENTLY JULIO IS WELL ACQUAINTED WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND HOW TO DO IT. THERE'S STILL SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO WILL DO EDITING AND WHO WILL, HOW WE WILL HAVE THE THE PLATFORM WHERE THAT WILL BE. BUT I JUST RIGHT NOW I'M INTERESTED IN IN YOUR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. AND I'LL JUST CHIP IN AND SAY THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ALEX TALKED TO ME ABOUT, ABOUT ABOUT THE PODCAST, BECAUSE HE THINKS IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT WE WEREN'T CONTINUITY. WE'RE HERE ON THE BOARD FOR A WHILE. WE'LL ROLL OFF AND THEN OTHERS WILL COME ON. AND SO WE WANT TO DO IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT FIRST, THE CITY WILL MAKE SURE THE CITY BUYS IN ON IT AND THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, ARE BEING SUPPORTIVE BECAUSE IT'S THEIR EQUIPMENT AND AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BECAUSE HE WAS SAYING YOU COULD, YOU COULD, THEY COULD USE THIS ROOM. WE HAVE A STEP AND REPEAT. THEY COULD DO MAYBE 4 OR 5 SHOOTINGS IN ONE DAY, YOU KNOW. AND THAT COULD GO FOR FOUR WEEKS OR A MONTH. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE COMING IN WHEN THEY WHEN THEY DO IT, AND THEN THEY BREAK IT UP. BUT THEY HE WANTS THAT CONTINUITY. LOOKING AT SCHEDULING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE BOARDS CHANGE, I MEAN, IT JUST HAPPENED WITH WITH WHAT WE WENT THROUGH. THE DYNAMICS ARE DIFFERENT AND THERE'S NO WE LOVE Y'ALL ALL. BUT WE WE WERE SORT OF CLOSE AND WE DID A LOT OF STUFF TOGETHER AND REALLY GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND ENJOY BEING AROUND EACH OTHER. THAT'S NOT TO SAY Y'ALL JUST NEED SOME TIME TO GET TO KNOW US, BUT. BUT WHEN WE ROLLED OFF, WHEN SOME OF THEM ROLLED OFF, THE DYNAMICS CHANGED. AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WHEN ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERISM AND EVERYTHING, NOT GETTING IT. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO START THE PODCAST. AND WE STARTED WITH THIS BOARD. AND THEN WHEN THINGS CHANGE, A NEW BOARD COMES ON. THERE'S NO [01:05:06] CONTINUITY AND IT DOESN'T CONTINUE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT CONTINUES THAT THERE'S BUY IN BY CURRENT AND FUTURE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING AND RELIABILITY. SO THOSE ARE THINGS YOU KNOW PEOPLE VOLUNTEERING TO TO BE THE GUEST OR TO SIT AND INTERVIEW OTHER ARTISTS OR GO OUT THERE AND FIND ARTISTS. LIKE I SAID, JULIO IS WILLING TO WORK WITH MARIANNE AND THEN FRANCISCO IS ALSO WITH THE CITY WORKING WITH THEM. SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANT YOUR THOUGHTS WHEN YOU ALL THINK, I'M SORRY. I SAID, JULIO, I MET FRANCISCO. JULIO IS RIGHT THERE. YEAH. HE ALSO HAS TO DO A LOT OF PODCASTS. YES. HE'S GOT THAT FAMILIARITY. AND HE SAID HE'D LOVE TO WORK WITH HER ON THAT. OKAY. SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS I GUESS MY QUESTION IS DO OR WE CHARGE TO GO OUT AND FIND PEOPLE FOR THE PODCAST. AS A COMMISSIONER? I MEAN, THAT'S NOT PROBLEM WITH ME. I COULD I'M JUST ASKING. SO I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF WHAT THE FORMAT. WELL, I GUESS WHO I GUESS WE WERE SAYING THAT IF WE HAVE. YEAH, IF YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME, SOME ARTISTS WHO WANT TO TALK ABOUT LOCAL OR EVEN OUT OF TOWN ARTISTS THAT ARE COMING HERE LOCALLY, EVENTS COMING UP SUGGESTED PEOPLE. BUT I REALLY LIKE IT BECAUSE A PODCAST, BUT EVEN EVEN LIKE I'M SUPER INTO THIS. OKAY A LOT. I WAS JUST LISTENING TO A PODCAST COMING IN HERE, BUT THEN THE REGULAR PODCAST CREW BASICALLY IS OUT DOING OTHER WORK. SO THEY HAD GUEST PODCASTERS DOING THE SHOW. SO TO YOUR CONTINUITY THING, IT DIDN'T MATTER BECAUSE THERE'S STILL GOING TO DO IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT WITH THE GUEST PODCAST, BUT THE FORMAT IS GOING TO BE THE SAME. SO I THINK IN PODCAST, THE FORMAT IS WHAT MATTERS BECAUSE THE FORMAT IS GOING TO CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, WAY AFTER US. WAY AFTER US. YEAH. AND AND THE THING I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THE PODCAST IS THAT YOU CAN MAKE IT WHATEVER YOU WANT. OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY LIKE TIME CONVENIENT FOR YOU. I MEAN, I I'VE DONE TWO HOUR. I ALMOST GOT A DIVORCE FOR A TWO HOUR PODCAST. I DID LIKE A TWO WEEKS AGO, BUT I'M REALLY GOOD AT DOING TWO HOUR PODCAST. BUT YOU CAN'T ASK 50 PEOPLE TO DO TWO HOUR PODCAST. THEY'LL PROBABLY ARE ARE WILLING TO DO A TEN MINUTE PODCAST, 20 MINUTE PODCAST. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT, LIKE WE ALREADY SUGGESTED, 30 THINGS, YOU KNOW, 30 ARTISTS THAT PLAY THE SINGERS X AMOUNT OF THINGS, BUT THE MURALIST, SO STUFF LIKE THAT. THESE ARE PEOPLE LIKE, WHO ARE THEY? RIGHT. WE COULD DO A 15 MINUTE PODCAST WITH THEM, BUT ALSO CLIP IT OUT AND THEN DO LIKE RAPID FIRE, INTERESTING QUESTIONS, THINGS THAT YOU RECOMMEND ON INSTAGRAM AND THEN DO LIKE A DIFFERENT LITTLE THING ON, ON YOUTUBE, BASICALLY. AND THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THAT BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS A CONNECTION TO THEM. SO THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE VIEWS AND THAT'S BASICALLY MORE MONEY FOR THEM EVENTUALLY DOWN THE LINE. SO THEY'RE ALL WILLING TO DO THAT. I ALREADY ASKED LIKE TEN PEOPLE, TEN ARTISTS, IF THEY'RE JUST I THREW IT OUT THERE. I LIKE TO THROW STUFF OUT THERE. AND THEN I THINK I ALREADY HAVE LIKE A, A, A COMEDIAN WHO'S LIKE ONE OF THE BIGGEST HOST PRODUCERS OF SHOWS IN THE DFW WHO WAS WILLING TO BE ON THAT PODCAST, STUFF LIKE THAT. AND I'M WILLING TO, LIKE, BE A HOST OF IT. I CAN BRING COMEDY AND PERSPECTIVES, AND I'M REALLY GOOD AT INTERVIEWING PEOPLE. SO YEAH, WE COULD EXTRAPOLATE THE PODCASTING AND MAKE IT REALLY INTERESTING. AND IN RETURN WE COULD ALWAYS PUT PLUG IN OUR THINGS. OH, DON'T FORGET TO SUBMIT TO THE ART COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, ART GRANTS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THIS AND THEN WE HAVE THIS FESTIVAL HERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND WE HAVE THIS MUSEUM. YEAH, I LIKE, I LIKE THEM. I THINK A PODCAST WOULD BE GREAT. I'VE NOTICED THAT. SINCE YOU CAME ON BOARD THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, YOU KNOW, FRANCISCO HAVE BEEN DOING THEM BECAUSE I SEE THEM ON FACEBOOK AND I'M ALWAYS FORWARDING THEM OUT. AND THEN EVERYBODY IS SAYING SEEING THEM, AND I THINK IT MAKES IT. I THINK THE INTERACTION IS DIFFERENT THAN JUST SEEING A POSTER OR A PICTURE. YEAH, YEAH, I LIKE IT. NO ONE DOES. NO ONE CARES ABOUT POSTS AND PICTURES ANYMORE IF THEY WANT VIDEOS. [01:10:01] AND YEAH, THEY LIKE THE AUDIOS FOR LONG DRIVES. I LIKE IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I UNMUTE MYSELF AND LISTEN TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. OH, AND THEY'RE CUTE. WHO'S COMING? YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND AND IT'S CUTE. I LIKE THE IDEA. A COUPLE OF PRACTICAL THINGS IS THE COST. WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? AND IS THIS GOING TO MAKE ALEX MORE WORK BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY PAST HIS BANDWIDTH ALREADY. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COMMISSION AND WE ALL HAVE A LOT OF US HAVE OUTSIDE WORK. RIGHT. SO HOW WOULD THIS BE MAINTAINED? WELL ALEX SAID THAT HE ALEX SAID THAT HE COULD EASILY FIND SPACE IN HERE IN OTHER PLACES WHERE WE PUT UP THE STEP AND REPEAT THAT HAS ARTS COMMISSION ALL ON IT. HE SAID. PUT A COUPLE OF CHAIRS AND SOME PLANTS AND WHATEVER, OR YOU CAN GO OUT AND ABOUT. THEY ALREADY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT. NOW THE CONCERN IS, BUT WHO CAN DO IT TOO? BUT FRANCISCO, I GUESS, HAS TO DO THE THE CUTTING OR WHATEVER EDITING. OKAY. AND THAT'S VERY MINIMAL. AND HONESTLY, THE PRICE OF IT IS PRACTICALLY FREE. YES IT IS. IT'S NOT EXPENSIVE AT ALL. THAT'S WHY SO MANY PEOPLE ARE DOING IT. IT'S THE CONTENT ON A PODCAST. THE CONTENT MATTERS AND THE LESS PRODUCTION THE BETTER, RIGHT? PEOPLE WANT IT. IT'S A NATURAL FLOW. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PODCAST, THE VOICES, THE CONTENT, YES, LISTEN TO THEM ALL THE TIME. BUT HOW DO YOU HOW WOULD YOU GARNER AN AUDIENCE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PODCAST? WELL, THAT'S THAT'S THE HARD PART. BUT IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY EASY SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE CITY PAGES HAVE THOUSANDS OF FOLLOWERS ALREADY. SO YOU JUST THROW IT OUT THERE, LISTEN TO A PODCAST, AND THEN THEY, YOU KNOW, DO THIS AND THEN THEY SUBSCRIBE. BUT ALSO IF I INTERVIEW THIS SINGER RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, I'M INTERVIEWING HER, I'M, I'M PROVIDING THE PROMOTION FOR HER. BUT THEN WHAT SHE'S GOING TO DO IS BECAUSE THIS IS PROMOTION ALREADY, SHE'S ALSO GOING TO POST IT ON HER SOCIALS AND SHE ALREADY HAS, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND FOLLOWERS OR SO. SO THAT MEANS THAT THAT HER FOLLOWERS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO LISTEN TO OURS. AND MAYBE IT'S JUST CROSS-PROMOTION. AND THEN THE MORE THE MORE POCKETS OF PEOPLE THAT WE INTERVIEW, THE MORE POTENTIAL, LIKE IF WE INTERVIEW THE PRINCIPAL OF THIS SCHOOL AND WE TALK ABOUT THEIR ART, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING THAT WE COULD WE COULD ALSO JUST INTERVIEW LIKE REALLY INTERESTING, LIKE BUSINESS OWNERS OR PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, NOT NECESSARILY ARTISTS, BUT JUST PEOPLE WHO WOULD GIVE US BECAUSE THAT IN ITSELF IS THE ART. SO PEOPLE WHO WOULD GIVE US, YOU KNOW, LIKE A GOOD INTERVIEW, RIGHT? CULINARY ART. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS MARIANNE OR ALEX, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO SUGGESTED IT TO US. MAYBE IF YOU HAVE A PODCAST, WHEN YOU SHOW IT, SCHEDULE IT, YOU KNOW, HAVE IT EVERY THURSDAY FROM 7 TO 715, AND THEN PEOPLE WILL KNOW TO TO TUNE IN THAT CONSISTENCY. WELL, THAT'S WHEN YOU RELEASE THEM. BUT WHEN YOU RELEASE IT, YES, YOU BASICALLY JUST YOU DO IT WHENEVER YOU MAKE A BUNCH OF THEM. AND THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. THAT WAY. YOU RELEASE THEM LIKE YOU JUST PRERELEASE THEM, RELEASE 50 OF THEM. I RECORD THEM ALL, YOU KNOW, ON ONE WEEK, AND THEN I RELEASE THEM THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEAR. THAT'S IT. YEAH. AND THEN THE NEXT WEEK I DO A MILLION OTHER THINGS AND THEN I JUST LIKE, ADD IT ON TOP. SO NOW IT'S TWO DIFFERENT SHOWS. IT'S PRETTY EASY. AND. A REAL JOB. OR IS THIS JUST I OWN A I OWN A BUSINESS, I OWN A RESTAURANT AND AND A COMEDY CLUB. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT YOU ALL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PODCAST. YES. FOR SURE. THOUGHTS ON. SO I'M JUST I WANT TO KNOW IF WE'RE NOT FUNDED. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS MONEY COMES FROM. IT WOULD COME FROM OUR. LISTENING. WELL, THEY ALREADY HAVE ALL THE EQUIPMENT. I THINK THIS WAS JUST SOME DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. WELL, I MEAN, WRITE THE SOFTWARE, BUT I MEAN HARDWARE. BUT THERE'S ALSO HOSTING. OKAY. YEAH. OTHER EXPENSES. I'M NOT HEARING YOU CLEARLY. HE'S ASKING. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE THE BUDGET AND SO FORTH. AND HE'S ASKING WHERE THE MONEY WOULD COME FROM. AND WE WERE LOOKING MORE SO LIKE AT OUR, AT OUR EARLIER BEFORE IT GOT TO THIS, WE WERE LOOKING AT WRITING A, PUTTING IN FOR A GRANT AND, BUT IT WAS DOING IT WITH THE THIRD PARTY AND DOING A PODCAST WITH THEM. AND THEN [01:15:05] OF COURSE, THEY INFORMED US THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE STUFF HERE. I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT HOW FUNDS. YEAH, ELIGIBILITY HOT FUNDS. RIGHT. I MEAN, JUST YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD FIT INTO THE HOT FUNDS CATEGORY. OKAY. WELL I LIKE THE IDEA. YEAH, I DO TOO. IT SHOULD BE OKAY. WHOLE HEADS AND BEDS AND I SEE THAT IT COULD PROMOTE TOURISM. IT COULD PROMOTE. YES, YES. YOU KNOW THE HOTEL, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT. SO BECAUSE LIKE, EVEN IF YOU'RE DOING IT MORE, BUT EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE A THEATER COMING UP, YOU HAVE YOU AS A GUEST, TELL THEM ABOUT IT. I MEAN, YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO STAYS IN HOTEL NEARLY EVERY AT LEAST ONE, EVERY SHOW. SO THAT'S GOOD. SO WE DO HAVE THAT. OKAY. SO MARIANNE, THE CONSENSUS IS THEY LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD. COUNCILMAN GOODMAN, DO YOU SEE ANY ISSUES THAT CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE WITH THE PODCAST? NO, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY ISSUES THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE OF CONCERN FOR COUNCIL. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. PUBLICITY. AND WORKS TOWARDS MARKETING, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO IMPROVE, SO I DON'T SEE ANY CONCERN THAT WOULD HINDER IT FROM MOVING FORWARD. BUT THAT'S JUST ME TALKING. THAT'S ONE VOTE. SO YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO ALL THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO I GUESS WE HAD SENT ALEX SOME INFORMATION ABOUT MOVING FORWARD ON THE PODCAST. WE'LL WANT TO DO THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE. I'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT THE PLATFORM. LIKE WHERE ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS? WHO'S GOING TO HOST IT? JUST THE DETAILS OF WELL, I THOUGHT I THOUGHT, YOU OKAY? I THOUGHT YOU AND I THOUGHT YOU AND JULIO WERE GOING TO BE HOSTING, AND I'M SORRY. THAT'S BY HOST. I MISSED THE THE PLATFORM. OH. OKAY. WILL BE COMING FROM. YEAH. WE CAN WE CAN MANAGE THAT PART. BUT I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT HAS TO DO WITH COST WHICH IS NOT HIGH. I HAVE THOSE SPEAKERS I DON'T THINK IT'S NOT REALLY THAT MUCH MONEY, BUT I'D LIKE SOMEBODY TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO OR IF WE MAKE A PRESENTATION. SO I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION TO YOU, IS WE'LL BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. HOW WILL WE WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP I'LL GET WITH ALEX AND GET BACK TO YOU. I WILL SAY IF THERE'S ANY IF THERE'S ANY COSTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ACCRUING, IT DOES HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL JUST BECAUSE IT IS A HOT FUNDS TASK. I MEAN, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU KNOW, MATT AND AMY WERE TALKING ABOUT. SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION, A FULL COST OF THE YEAR. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO HOW IT WOULD QUALIFY FOR THE HOT TAX, THE ROUTE YOU WOULD NEED TO GO IS THE MARKETING ROUTE OF THE ARTS FUND. SO IT DOES QUALIFY IN THE SENSE OF THE MARKETING, BUT YOU NEED TO PHRASE IT IN A WAY, IN A MEANS OF HOW IT'S GOING TO HELP BRING PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY HERE IN DUNCANVILLE, INTO THE CITY BY WHAT YOU'RE PRODUCING ON THE PODCAST. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN YOUR PRESENTATION, AND THEN THE FULL COST OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE YEAR, NOT JUST MONTHLY, BUT FOR THE OVERALL YEAR COST. OKAY. RIGHT. JUST BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO TOWARDS THE FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR BUDGET IS, OKAY? I MEAN, COUNCILWOMAN GOODEN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT. NO, YOU'RE NOT WRONG. I WOULD ALSO THINK I DO RECALL DCC MENTIONING THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO PARTNER WITH THE ARTS COMMISSION ON SOME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PROJECTS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HURT EXPLORING THAT POSSIBILITY. SO IF IT DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR HOT AND THEY AND THEY'RE ALSO THEY'RE ALSO DOING AREN'T THEY DOING PODCASTS? I SAW SOMEONE FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WHEN THEY WERE VISITING A COUPLE OF BUSINESSES AND SO FORTH. SO THEY HAD LITTLE WE HAVE OUR OUR MONTHLY BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT. YES, BUT THAT IS A VIDEO SERIES THAT EDC AND FRANCISCO ARE PUTTING TOGETHER. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PODCAST. IT'S THE YEAH, VIDEO SERIES. BUT THE PODCAST EQUIPMENT WAS BOUGHT BY THE EDC. OKAY. WITH THE HOPES OF STARTING A PODCAST THAT JUST NEVER CAME TO FRUITION. SO, I MEAN, IT IS TECHNICALLY THE DCC SLASH EDC THAT PURCHASED THE [01:20:04] PODCASTING EQUIPMENT. OKAY. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH DEVIN, PUT YOUR PACKET TOGETHER, GET WITH ALEX AND ANY OTHER EXPERTS IN THIS AREA, AND PROBABLY ASK IF THERE ARE ANY EXPENSES. WHAT WILL BE THE PURPOSE OF THE PODCAST? JUST GET ALL THE QUESTIONS OF WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE AND WHY PREPARED IN YOUR PRESENTATION, AND I CAN TRUST THAT Y'ALL CAN DO THAT BEFORE GETTING IT ADDED TO COUNCIL'S AGENDA. OKAY, OKAY. AND WITH AMY QUESTIONS OKAY. AMY GAVE ME A TEMPLATE I GUESS LAST YEAR EARLY LAST YEAR. AND SO I DID A FORMAL REQUEST THAT IT NEVER WAS PRESENTED. BUT WE DO HAVE THAT. SO YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE PODCAST. SO WE MAY DO WORKSHOPS OR SOMETHING GETTING TOGETHER JULIO MARIANNE. ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO WORK ON THE PODCAST OR GETTING THAT PRESENTATION TOGETHER WITH ALEX? OKAY. I MEAN, IF THE MAIN EXPENSE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IS THE HOSTING COMPONENT OF LIKE THE WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD GO WITH THE PRESENT, THE CHEAPEST ROUTE FIRST. SO IT CAN BE ESSENTIALLY LIKE YOUR TRIAL YEAR, BECAUSE WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IS SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY AND IT NOT SUCCEED. SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS GOING, WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE MOST COST EFFICIENT HOSTING SITE? AND THEN IF IT'S SUPER SUCCESSFUL, THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT, OKAY, LET'S UPGRADE TO A BETTER SIDE OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THAT'S JUST MY $0.02 OKAY. AND I MEAN LIKE SPOTIFY HAS LIKE THREE HOSTS. YEAH. SO DID YOU HEAR THAT MARIANNE SPOTIFY HAS FREE HOSTING. SOMETIMES FREE IS NOT GOOD. BUT YEAH IT JUST COMES WITH A FEW ADS OKAY OKAY. JUST BUT WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL PUT IT TOGETHER OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE ON THE PODCAST. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE WE'LL MOVE ON TO. THE OLDEN YEAR MUSEUM. AGAIN. [5.F. Olden Year Museum] SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOURED IT. SOME PEOPLE HAVE NOT. THERE ARE A SUGGESTION OF PROPOSAL IS IN THE WORKS WITH THAT. THIS LAST TOUR. I TRY TO GET IT TO YOU. ALL I GOT WHEN I HEARD ABOUT IT THAT IT WAS AVAILABLE. JULIO DIEGO I DO KNOW, BECAUSE I WAS IN A MEETING TODAY, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO HAVE ANOTHER TOUR BECAUSE ON THE LAST ONE IT WAS THE MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUPLE, CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE. AND I KNOW JULIO MAC WAS GOING, BUT HE DIDN'T MAKE IT. BUT HE MIGHT CAN MAKE THE NEXT ONE. SO IF THEY HAVE ANOTHER TOUR, I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW ASAP. AS SOON AS I KNOW, I'LL LET YOU ALL KNOW. I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON IT. THE CITY, THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS FOUNDATION, DIFFERENT FOLKS WERE TRYING TO SEE WHAT, IF ANYTHING, CAN BE DONE TO KEEP THAT IN, TO KEEP IT IN THE CITY. IT'S A NICE EXHIBIT. IT'S A JIM. IT REALLY IS. YEAH. IT IS. AND SO HOPEFULLY WHEN WE FIND OUT WHEN THE NEXT ONE IS BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO REACH OUT TO THEM AGAIN, AND MAYBE WE MIGHT EVEN HAVE A MEETING OR A, A SOCIAL OVER THERE THAT THE MRS. DEFORD HAS SUGGESTED SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO. TAKE HER BRA OFF. OR IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE A JOINT MEETING OR SOMETHING. SO BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MORE TO COME ON THAT. WE'LL SEE WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT RIGHT NOW. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT GOLDEN YEAR. THAT YOU'VE HEARD OF IT. EVERYBODY'S HEARD [5.G. Review Fiscal Year 2025 Grant Awards' statuses] OF IT OKAY OKAY. ITEM G REVIEW THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 GRANT AWARD STATUS. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD ASKED ALEX ABOUT. AND SO HE WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE STATUS IS, HOW THE [01:25:02] GRANTS ARE GOING, HOW THE PEOPLE ARE GOING, WHAT'S GOING ON AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO HE PROVIDED US AN UPDATE AS TO. THE THIS IS HIS DATABASE. HOW'S HE HE KEEPS TRACK ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE DIFFERENT ARTISTS. AND THESE ARE ALL ARTISTS THAT WE HAVE AWARDED GRANTS TO. THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S QUITE A FEW. ONE, TWO. THREE. FOUR. AND HE HAS REACHED OUT TO HIM. AND IF THEY HAVEN'T RESPONDED, THEN AGAIN. THEY CAN'T APPLY FOR ANOTHER ONE. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BLACK AND THE GREEN, BLACK AND THE GREEN. SO GREEN. YEAH. GREEN IS THAT THE REPORT HAS BEEN RECEIVED OKAY. AND THE BLACKS, THE THE BLACKS THE NORMAL. RIGHT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR DO THEY. THOSE WERE THE DUE DATES. WOW. OKAY. BASED ON THE EVENT DATE THAT THEY GAVE. OKAY. GOTCHA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? A SECOND THING I WAS INTERESTED IN BECAUSE, I MEAN, I LIKE THE SENTIMENT. I THINK IT WOULD BE COOL TO ALSO HAVE LIKE A ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF 2025 FISCAL YEAR. I GUESS THAT WE'RE DONE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE, JUST LIKE AS ANNUAL RESUME. I GUESS, LIKE A LOT OF COMPANIES DO THAT. SPECIFICALLY LIKE ON YOUTUBE OR LIKE. SPOTIFY. THEY'RE VERY POPULAR. THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THESE ARE THE TOP TEN SONGS THAT YOU LISTEN TO THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR. SO A LOT OF THEY WERE REALLY POPULAR BECAUSE IT'S JUST AN INTERESTING VIEW OF YOUR HOW YOUR YEAR WENT REGARDING MUSIC. SO A LOT OF IT'S VERY TRENDY. SO A LOT OF COMPANIES STARTED DOING THAT REGARDING LIKE THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE DID THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE KIND OF COOL ALSO TO MAYBE DO THAT. YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THE ART COMMISSION THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ALSO IN REGARDS TO THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF THAT AS WELL. RIGHT? AND ACTUALLY WE DO HAVE TO DO A REQUIRED TO DO ONE ANNUALLY. YES. SURE. YES. USUALLY THAT'S I THINK IT'S IN JUNE OR SOMETHING. RIGHT. I THINK SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME. I THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND SOMEWHERE AROUND JUNE. YEAH. AND SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD DO THAT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND I DO LIKE THE LIKE THE ARTS COMMISSION WRAPPED SITUATION. YEAH. YEAH WE DID TIM DID A VIDEO. YES. HE DID A REAL NICE VIDEO AND EVERYTHING. SO IT WAS JUST. YES. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WAS THIS YOUR. LIKE MORE REWARDING THAN LAST YEAR. THIS WAS OUR FIRST YEAR. OH OKAY OKAY OKAY. WE DID ONE WHICH WAS THE 20 2024 2025. THAT WAS OUR INAUGURAL OKAY. AND THEN WE DID ONE RIGHT BEFORE THE BOARD CHANGED, WHICH WAS FOR THE 2025, 2026. UNDER THAT GRANT, SO FORTH. SO WE'VE ONLY DONE TWO. WHAT DO YOU SAY THAT THIS IS LIKE A SUCCESSFUL YEAR. JUST JUST I DON'T KNOW LIKE BECAUSE LIKE I THINK IT WAS SUCCESSFUL. WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT WAS THIS WITHIN LIKE THE 2024 GOALS, LIKE DO. WELL OUR GOAL WAS JUST TO GET THE GRANTS. OKAY. GET SOMETHING. WE WE STARTED FROM SCRATCH A LOT OF THINGS. YEAH. SO THE THE WHOLE ARTS DISTRICT OR IN THE THAT WAS A WHOLE BIG HUGE THING GETTING THE GRANTS UP AND GOING. THOSE ARE HUGE THINGS THAT STARTED FROM JUST IDEAS. SO I WOULD SAY IT WAS EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL. YEAH. IT'S JUST THERE'S NOT AS MUCH TANGIBLE THINGS WHERE WE HAD 50 GRANTS OUT THERE BECAUSE IT JUST STARTED FROM AN IDEA ON PAPER AND WE BROUGHT IT TO LIFE. SO YES, VERY SUCCESSFUL. THIS IS REALLY SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S MARKED DOWN LIKE $80,000. SO THAT'S FROM NOTHING [01:30:01] TO 80,000. THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING. RIGHT. THAT WAS HOW MUCH WAS REQUESTED. BUT I MEAN LIKE BUT IT WASN'T IT. OH NO NO NO. BUT DOES IT SAY 42. YEAH. WE APPROVED. WE RECOMMENDED 42. OH WAIT. SO IT WAS NOT APPROVED AND WE APPROVED 42. YEAH. 021 4042 IS A LOT OF MONEY. SO THAT'S GOOD. YEAH, YEAH. JUST TO HAVE STARTED WITH NOTHING. SO THEN BECAUSE LIKE THIS IS LIKE A THING I ALWAYS LIKE TO DO ON DECEMBER'S BASICALLY LIKE JUST FAKE OUT MY NEXT, MY NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF I HAD ONE WIFE THIS YEAR I'LL HAVE THREE WIVES NEXT YEAR. AND IF WE HAD, IF WE HAD LIKE, OH YEAH. BUT BASICALLY LIKE I LIKE THAT WE HAD 42,000, WHAT WOULD IT BE INTERESTING FOR US TO TRY TO GET MORE MONEY? BECAUSE THAT JUST MEANS THAT WE SPEND $42,000 ON ART WITHIN THE CITY. WOULD IT BE LIKE THAT WAS JUST WHAT WAS AWARDED, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT WAS $42,000 WERE AWARDED, SO WOULDN'T LIKE DOUBLE THAT. BE LIKE LIKE THERE'S MORE PROJECTS AND THAT THAT'S LIKE A SUCCULENT LIKE GOAL FOR US. LIKE, OH, WE DID THAT. AND JUST JUST LIKE AS JUST SOMETHING TO AIM FOR. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S HOW I THINK. OKAY. AND THEN. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THE LAST ONE IS MARIANNE. DISCUSS THE DUNCANVILLE POET LAUREATE. OKAY. DALLAS HAS PROTESTS. REALLY? JUST SHE'S JUST THE SECOND ONE. HAD POET LAUREATE STATES HAVE THEM, NATIONS HAVE THEM. IF YOU'VE SEEN PRESIDENTIAL. CONFIRMATIONS OF INAUGURATIONS, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN SOMEONE. BUT WHY FOR A LITTLE CITY. AND I AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A POET LAUREATE ESSENTIALLY FOR OUR COMMISSION VERY PLEASED WITH HIM. IT JUST SORT OF EVOLVED. HE DIDN'T NECESSARILY ASK FOR THE POSITION, BUT HE'S BEEN DOING IT AND IT'S INCLUDED IN OUR MINUTES. IT'S A GREAT THING. WELL, IT WOULD BE A BIT UNIQUE FOR FOR DUNCANVILLE BECAUSE WE'RE SMALL, BUT THERE ARE CITIES ALL OVER THE TEXAS WHO HAVE A POET LAUREATE. THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS TO STRUCTURE IT. I HAD NOTES FOR FOR DALLAS. IT IS A POSITION THAT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE COOLIO SAID FOR A PODCAST. BUT YOU MAKE IT AND IT'S NOT AS IF AT EVERY COUNCIL MEETING THERE'S GOING TO BE A POEM READ OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT IS. SPOKEN WORD IS MAYBE NOT AS ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE AS AS MUSIC. PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO MUSIC ALL THE TIME, BUT SPOKEN WORD IS SO DIVERSE, CAN HAVE SO MANY LEVELS OF IMPACT. AND SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING FOR DUNCANVILLE ALSO SORT OF PUT US ON THE MAP KIND OF IDEA, AND WE COULD TALK ABOUT A STIPEND, WHICH WAS FRANKLY, SOMETHING I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT UNTIL ANGELA SUGGESTED. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, THAT DALLAS HAD ONE. THERE'S THIS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL, ACTUALLY, $20,000 OVER TWO YEARS. TO ME, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. THERE. POET LAUREATE HAS PRESENTED AT NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER FOR DALLAS. SHE WAS AT OUR THAI MISS EVENT. SHE SHE DID A POEM THERE ABOUT DALLAS AND KINDNESS. AND YOU KNOW, SHE COULD GO TO SCHOOL. SHE COULD GO TO ANYTHING THAT THAT THE CITY ASKS HER TO DO. I EXPECT SO THAT AGAIN, I THINK IT WOULD BE A LOW COST. I DON'T THINK WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE IT BE A POSITION. THAT'S THAT'S A HIGH STIPEND MEANS. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO TO REIMBURSE PEOPLE FOR TRAVEL THAT. MIGHT BE. BUT I, I'VE CERTAINLY USED I A LOT HERE. I'M SORRY. I THINK THE COMMISSION WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE REPOSITORY OF OF THAT KIND OF WE'VE HAD ARTISTS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE HAD AN ADVANCE AND WE HAVE HAD SPOKEN WORD ARTISTS AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT QUITE THE SAME THING, BUT I THINK IT REALLY WOULD BE A POSITIVE FOR DUNCANVILLE. BUT [01:35:02] THINK ABOUT DALLAS THAT I THOUGHT WAS UNUSUAL, THAT PEOPLE ARE SELF NOMINATING HAVE HAVE KNOWN THAT EITHER. SO WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY. WE COULD DO. DO IT WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND PEOPLE. SO, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF QUESTIONS STILL TO AS USUAL, BUT AGAIN, INTERESTED IN WHAT THE GROUP THINKS. SO I WAS EVEN I HAD SUGGESTED TO MARIANNE OR THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE A. COMPETITION AND SAY, COME OUT TO THE ARTS COMMISSION AND WE PICK THE FIRST POET, DUNCANVILLE POET LAUREATE, AND THEY MAY BE SERVED FOR A YEAR OR TWO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, BUT WHEN THEY HAVE EVENTS LIKE CHRISTMAS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR'S A SPOKESPERSON, BUT THEY JUST THEY JUST DO LIKE WHAT WE SAW THEM DO WITH THE PRESIDENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY JUST THEY THEY DO A POEM FOR THAT PARTICULAR EVENT OR SEASON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SPOKEN WORD IS REALLY ON THE MARKET OF GROWING. I THINK YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK SPOKEN WORD, IT'S NOTHING LIKE WHAT IT APPEARS ONCE YOU GET THERE AND IT IS A YOU HAVE TO JUST IT IS AN AWESOME ART. AND I PERSONALLY JUST I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT MOVING FORWARD MORE BECAUSE IT, IT BRINGS ON A WHOLE DYNAMIC OF AN AUDIENCE OF PEOPLE. IT'S VERY ARTSY. YES. AND IF YOU GET THE RIGHT ONES, THEY ARE JUST PHENOMENAL. YOU GET SPOKEN WORD AND COFFEE. IT'S JUST A AWESOME THING TO I THINK ONCE PEOPLE FIND OUT WHAT IT REALLY IS, THEY'LL APPRECIATE THE ART. I'VE BEEN DOING SPOKEN WORD SINCE I WAS TEN YEARS OLD, SO I REALLY LOVE IT. AND I THINK IT WAS REALLY COOL BECAUSE THE FESTIVAL THAT MARIANNE INVITED US TO DO COMEDY AT, I REALLY DISLIKED THE PRESENTATION THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I DISCUSSED IT LAST NIGHT, THE PRESENTATION THAT WENT UP BEFORE ME, BEFORE MY GROUP, BECAUSE WE WERE COMEDIANS AND THE SPOKEN WORD ARTIST WAS TALKING ABOUT HER FATHER WITH ALZHEIMER'S. AND I WAS LIKE, OH NO, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT FLOW. YOU ALWAYS WANT TO FIND OUT. JUST KIND OF WORD TO FROM THE WISE, I FIND OUT WHAT THEIR SPOKEN WORD IS SO IT CAN MATCH THE VENUE. THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE CAVEAT. THAT'S SPOKEN WORD. BUT BUT I LOVE THAT IDEA, MARIANNE. I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING. AND AS YOU'RE SAYING, WE LIKE IF WE'RE PLANNING A LOT OF LIKE EVENTS AND EVEN IF WE'RE NOT PLANNING THE EVENTS, THE EVENTS ARE BEING PLANNED BY OTHER CITY GROUPS LIKE THAT SUGGESTION AND THEN DERIVED FROM THE ART COMMISSION. THAT'S KIND OF COOL. THAT'S A THAT'S LIKE A REALLY GOOD SIGNATURE TYING BACK TO US. YEAH. ANY OTHER WEIGHT. YOU'RE ALREADY A SPOKEN WORD PERSON BECAUSE BECAUSE MARIANNE AND I, WE WERE TALKING, WE WERE SAYING, OH, THAT COULD BE OUR FIRST LAUREATE. YEAH. HE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS NOW. AT EVERY MEETING HE WRITES IT UP. HE COULD BE OUR INAUGURAL PERSON. WE TESTED ON HIM. YES. AND THEN. AND THEN WORK SOMETHING OUT LATER. BUT YEAH. SO WE JUST NEED TO GIVE WE NEED TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING LIKE THE DETAILS. THE ROLE REPRESENTATIVE. YOU KNOW, GET THE CITY BUY IN. BUT GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS YOU KNOW, THEY THEY TALK ABOUT REFLECTION AND COMMEMORATIVE THINGS. THAT'S ALL THEY'RE DOING. THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO BE THE SPOKESPERSON FOR THE CITY. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO BRING THE ART COMPONENT TO AN EVENT. SO DO YOU DO YOU ALL WANT US TO [5.H. Discuss a Duncanville Poet Laureate] PROCEED WITH TRYING TO HAVE A DUNCANVILLE POET LAUREATE? DEFINITELY. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL. REALLY NICE ADDITION. IT'D BE GREAT. DID YOU HEAR THAT, MARIANNE? EVERYBODY SAID YES. THEY WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. SO. OKAY, SO ANYBODY WANT TO WORK WITH ME ON THAT? I WONDER ABOUT AMY. SHE'S A SHE'S A WORD PERSON TOO. WE'VE GOT WHO WE ARE ON PODCAST. LET'S SEE WHO ELSE WE CAN DO. THAT WAS FINE. AMY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY AMY. I MEAN, WITH MARIANNE ON THIS ONE. MAYBE, POSSIBLY. THERE'S A LOT OF. POETS RIGHT HERE. YEAH, WELL, SEE, HE WAS DOING THE PODCAST. WE DIDN'T WANT TO OVER BURDEN 160 HOURS A WEEK. NO, I [01:40:02] THINK IT DEFINITELY SHOULD BE. YEAH. OKAY. MAC IS GOING TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT, TOO. YEAH. OKAY. TERRIFIC. OKAY, SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT COMES TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANT TO GO BACK OVER? YOU ALL ARE FINE WITH EVERYTHING. I WOULD JUST ADD, I'LL PROBABLY COVER THIS EARLIER AND FORGIVE ME, I WAS LATE. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, AND FOR SOME REASON I THOUGHT IT STARTED AT SEVEN. AND I'VE GOT ANOTHER EVENT WHEN I LEAVE HERE. BUT I WANTED TO SAY, MADAM PRESIDENT AND I ATTENDED THE. IT'S NOT FIRST BAPTIST PASTOR VOICES. YES, THEY WERE PHENOMENAL. IT WAS JUST A GREAT EVENING. THE PEOPLE WERE AMAZING. THE SPIRIT WAS HIGH, BUT THE ENTERTAINMENT, THEY WERE AWESOME. MR. TREAT WITH THEM AND I THINK THEY'VE OUTGROWN THAT VENUE. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE IT FROM THERE. YEAH, I THINK WE GOT TO MOVE THAT VENUE. YEAH, IT WAS AMAZING. REALLY GOOD EVENING. IT WAS A VERY GOOD. I WAS GOING TO GO AFTER AUDITIONS. RIGHT. YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO COME BY. THERE WAS NO WAY. I'M LIKE, OKAY. YES. SO IT WAS A VERY NICE EVENT. I'M GLAD COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET ME TO COME TO A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND IT IS WONDERFUL. YEAH, SO I CAME, SO I PULLED INTO THE PARKING LOT THE WRONG DIRECTION AND HE SAID, THAT'S OKAY. AT LEAST YOU'RE HERE. SO. ALL RIGHT. SO MEETING ADJOURNED, 8:13 P.M. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.