[00:00:01] GREAT. I'VE NEVER HAD A MAN TO LAY DOWN THERE. OKAY. WE'RE HERE. WE'RE DOING IT. WE HAVE A [1. Call to Order] QUORUM. THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:30 P.M. OKAY. WE [3. Commissioners Reports (limit to 2 minutes each) ] HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO WE'LL GO ON TO COMMISSIONERS REPORTS. AND, COMMISSIONER, UNLESS YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, ABOUT TWO MINUTES OR TO TO WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US. AND I'LL START ON THIS END SO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT. OKAY, OKAY. I WILL START WITH VICENTE. VICENTE DELGADO JUNIOR. WE VISITED HIM LAST WEEK AT HIS HIS PLACE, THE HISPANIC COALITION OF NORTH TEXAS. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING SERVICES. SO EXCITED TO BE WORKING WITH THEM. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO RETHINK IS A A PODCAST FOR DUNCANVILLE. THEY'VE GOT EVERYTHING THAT WOULD BE NEEDED, THEY WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND IT'S ALSO ANY OF YOU MAY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ART SIDE OR YOU COULD DO THAT. THAT'D BE GREAT. SO I'M VERY INTERESTED IN DOING THAT WITH THEM. MY. KINDNESS FESTIVAL WAS INCREDIBLE. I HAD HELP FROM FROM AMY GETTING PEOPLE THE SOUTHERN SECTOR WAS WELL REPRESENTED. I WAS PLEASED WITH THAT. DUNCANVILLE HAD A HAD ACQUIRED A SOTO OAK CLIFF GRANBURY. SO WE WERE WE WERE GOOD YOU KNOW, AND I'LL JUST SAY I CAN'T REALLY TAKE MUCH CREDIT FOR IT. IT WAS REALLY WELL. WELL, JULIO, WAS THERE ANYTHING HE I DIDN'T SEE HIS PERFORMANCE BECAUSE I COULDN'T BE TWO PLACES AT ONE TIME. I WAS THANKFUL FOR THAT. IT JUST WAS NOT SOMETHING I COULD HAVE DONE BY MYSELF. AND IT WASN'T JUST A TEAM. IT WAS JUST NOT MY SKILL SET. AND SOMETIMES THERE'S JUST DIVINE HELP AND I WILL JUST LEAVE IT THERE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AMY. ME. OKAY, I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY OTHER THAN, AS YOU KNOW, I RUN A COMMUNITY THEATER AND WE OPENED HARVEY LAST WEEKEND. A GOOD CLASSIC FROM THE 40S. YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER KNOW HOW 40S CLASSIC IS GOING TO BE RECEIVED, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY REQUESTED A LOT BY THE YOUNGER CROWD, THE 20S AND 30 YEAR OLDS. AND IT'S WELL ATTENDED. SATURDAY NIGHT'S AUDIENCE WAS A LITTLE SMALL. YESTERDAY AFTERNOON WE WERE STANDING. I MEAN, LIKE, THEY'RE LIKE TWO WALLS TO THE WALL. MAC WAS THERE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. I THINK ANGELA'S COMING THIS WEEK, BUT IT DOES RUN THIS THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AT 8:00 AND GREAT QUALITY THEATER ON MAIN STREET CELEBRATING THE ARTISTS OF THE GREAT SOUTHWEST AREA OF DALLAS COUNTY. SO COME SEE THE SHOW IF YOU'D LIKE TO. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. I DID FORGET ONE THING. GOOD THANKS-GIVING SQUARE DOES HAVE AN ANNUAL THANKSGIVING SERVICE, AND IT'S IT'S INTERFAITH. THIS YEAR IS AT IT'S AT CATHEDRAL OF HOPE. AND THEY ARE SINGING A CHOIR FOR WHICH A CHOIR. THEY ARE SINGING A SONG FOR WHICH I WROTE THE, THE TEXT AND A FRIEND COMPOSED IT. SHE'S A SHE'S A COMPOSER. IT'S AT SEVEN ON THURSDAY. EVERYBODY'S WELCOME. IT'S INTERESTING TALKS AND OTHER MUSIC THAN MINE. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. WELL, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW, I'LL GIVE YOU DETAILS. LINDA, I'M SORRY, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROCESS, SO I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GIVING SOME KIND OF REPORT. OH, NO, YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO. WHAT WE DO IS A LOT OF TIMES BETWEEN THE TIMES THAT WE HAVE HAD A LAST MEETING, SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT GO OUT AND SEE ARTISTS OR COME ACROSS SOMETHING OR DO SOMETHING OR SHARE SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED, AND YOU JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH THE FOLKS. BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU. IT'S NOT REQUIRED. OKAY. MY EMPHASIS SINCE THE LAST MEETING HAS BEEN ON HUNGER FEEDING. WE HAVE SUCH AN ISSUE WITH FOOD AND LACK OF FOOD. I, I DO A LOT OF VOLUNTEER WORK AT THE CROSSROADS AND ALSO AT MY CHURCH, AND I'VE ADOPTED A LITTLE BOOK BARN THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET OVER HERE IN THE WALK AREA. AND I GO OVER THERE AND I STOP FOOD THERE. MATTER OF FACT, I'VE BEEN IN THERE TWO NIGHTS STOCKING FOOD, AND IT ALWAYS SURPRISES ME HOW QUICKLY THAT FOOD DISAPPEARS, WHICH INDICATES THAT THERE IS A NEED. IN DUNCANVILLE. WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE FOOD DEPRIVED, AND SO THAT THAT IS REALLY MY EMPHASIS RIGHT NOW AS I PREPARE TO GET OUT OF, OUT OF. COLEMAN. YES. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, TO FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE WORKING ON WE'VE GOT SPONSORS TO FEED FOUR FAMILIES FOR THANKSGIVING. VERY GOOD. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST CANNED GOODS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAM, TURKEYS, FRESH PRODUCE, VEGETABLES, BREADS, [00:05:01] HOMEMADE BREAD. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING THAT PROBABLY IT'S READY. AND I'M THINKING MAYBE WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY I'LL HAVE THAT TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH I'VE GOT A MINISTRY CALLED GIRLFRIENDS MINISTRY. SO YOU'LL HEAR ME SAY A LOT ABOUT GIRLFRIENDS. IT'S A MINISTRY. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET FOUR FAMILIES, VERY NEEDY FAMILIES. AND THEN MY SECOND ONE IS GIRLFRIENDS MINISTRIES HAVE OUR ANNUAL LUNCHEON, WHICH WILL BE DECEMBER 6TH, WOULD BE A IT'S GOING TO BE AT OMC, WHICH IS ORCHESTRATED MEMORIES, SOMETHING OMC IT'S LOCATED IN DESOTO AND TICKETS ARE $100 FOR INDIVIDUALS. BUT IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO PAY. I WILL HAVE A SEAT FOR YOU. IT IS SOMETHING. IT'S A MEMORY THAT YOU WON'T EVER FORGET. I'M AN ARTSY PERSON, SO WE WILL HAVE LOTS OF ARTSY THINGS GOING ON. WE'LL HAVE A GREAT LUNCH. WE'LL HAVE RAFFLE ITEMS, AND WE WILL HAVE. AWARDS. BUT IT'S JUST A FUN AFTERNOON. EVEN THOUGH IT'S CALLED GIRLFRIENDS, IT'S MALE AND FEMALE. AND SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME, THERE'S NO CHARGE FOR THIS GROUP. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO COME AND REALLY SEE WHAT TRUE SISTERHOOD IS ALL ABOUT. DECEMBER 6TH, 1130 UNTIL TWO. WE'LL HAVE A GREAT, GREAT. IF YOU'RE A MUSIC PERSON, GREAT MUSIC. WE'VE GOT A GREAT BAND. WE'LL HAVE A GREAT, GREAT SINGERS. SO JUST COME. I ONLY ASK ONE THING. BRING YOUR BEST DUDES. WHICH MEANS COME LOOKING YOUR BEST. THAT'S ALL. OKAY, DECEMBER 6TH AGAIN. WHERE IS IT? IT'S AT OMSI. IT'S IN DESOTO. IT'S ON BELTLINE. I DON'T HAVE THE. I'VE GOT THE ADDRESS IN MY PHONE, BUT IT'S ON BELTLINE IF YOU KNOW WHERE DESOTO GROVE MARKETPLACE IS ON, BELTLINE IS AT THE VERY END. IT'S AN EVENT CENTER AT THE VERY END. OKAY. SO IF YOU COME, JUST BRING IT. JUST WHATEVER YOUR BEST DO IS JUST BRING IT. WE'RE GOING TO LOVE ON YOU. YOU'LL HAVE A GREAT TIME. THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. SO ART RELATED. I PERFORMED AT VICKI'S FESTIVAL. AWESOME. VERY COOL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW I'M A COMEDIAN. I THINK I MENTIONED IT LAST TIME, AND BY COINCIDENCE, ON OUR FIRST MEETING, YOU KNOW, SHE SUGGESTED SHE WAS LOOKING FOR. SERENDIPITY AND TOOK SOME OF MY FRIENDS. THAT I WORK WITH AROUND TOWN, ONE ACTUALLY BEING A LOCAL COMEDIAN. AND BY THE WAY, I OWN A COMEDY CLUB AS WELL. OKAY. LIKE THE ONLY COMEDY CLUB IN GRAND PRAIRIE, IT'S ABOVE MY SEAFOOD RESTAURANT. AND WE HAVE SHOWS THERE EVERY WEEKEND, WHICH, BY THE WAY, YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME. HAVE, YOU KNOW, FREE SEATING TO THIS SATURDAY? IT'S MY 80 YEAR OLD CAUCASIAN WHITE COMEDIAN. HE'S VERY OLD. NO ONE WANTS TO GO SEE HIM BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, I CAN'T RELATE TO THIS GUY YET. HE'S THE ONLY HE'S ONE OF THE FIVE COMEDIANS IN DALLAS WHO ACTUALLY TOURS AROUND THE UNITED STATES, LIKE EVERY WEEK. SO HE'S REALLY FUNNY. YEAH, BUT EVERYONE ELSE LIKE, LOOKS, YOU KNOW, JUDGING A BOOK BY ITS COVERS. LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO WATCH THIS OLD GUY DO COMEDY, BUT YEAH, WE'RE FILLING IT UP. I LAST WEEK WE DONATED FOOD TO MY RESTAURANT, DONATED FOOD TO THE GRAND PRAIRIE ART COMMISSION. THEY WERE WHICH I. WE DONATED FOOD BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE A LITTLE BIT SIMILAR TO THE DUNCANVILLE ART COMMISSION. AND I JUST REALLY RECENTLY GOT INTERESTED IN THIS. I WAS LIKE, WELL, LET ME EXPLORE AND SEE WHAT HOW THEY GO ABOUT DOING STUFF. BUT THEIR COMMISSION IS MORE BASED AROUND THEY'VE BEEN DOING. ART PROJECTS FOR THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE FOR THE PAST LIKE 35 YEARS, AND THEIR EMPHASIS IS ON BRINGING ABOUT PLACE AND CENTERED AROUND. THE UPTOWN THEATER, WHICH IS WHERE THEY HAD THIS EVENT. AND THE EVENT WAS BASICALLY TO PROMOTE, LIKE UPCOMING 2026 SHOWS, WHICH WAS PRETTY COOL. IT WASN'T REALLY LIKE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, BUT IT GAVE [00:10:04] ME A LOT OF IDEAS AS TO HOW A SMALL GROUP ORGANIZES BIG FESTIVALS FOR THE TOWN. AND IT WAS IT WAS KIND OF PACKED. THERE WERE LIKE 300 PEOPLE IN A SMALL THEATER. AND I WAS JUST VERY INTERESTED IN THAT. I'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING TO A FEW PEOPLE JUST TO ORGANIZE, LIKE SOME RANDOM PROJECTS HERE IN TOWN. JUST TO SEE HOW IT WOULD WORK OUT ON PAPER. I WAS THINKING ABOUT LIKE A PROJECT CALLED DUNCANVILLE FIT. DUNCANVILLE FIT BASICALLY PROVIDING LIKE A FREE FITNESS CLASS ONE DAY OUT OF THE WEEK. TO PROMOTE LIKE A FIT LIFESTYLE IN DUNCANVILLE, WHICH WOULD INVOLVE A PERSONAL FITNESS TRAINER PROVIDING LIKE ONE HOUR OF A WEEK FOR EVERY FOR EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO DO IT FOR FREE. BASICALLY CENTER AROUND ARMSTRONG PARK ALONG WITH LIKE A DJ TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ENTERTAINMENT. WELL, THAT'S GOING ON. AND ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR IS LIKE FOOD TRUCKS. WHO WOULD POSSIBLY VOLUNTEER FOR AN EVENT LIKE THAT? SO I'M JUST WORKING OUT ON PAPER JUST TO SEE HOW IT WOULD WORK OUT, AND SEE IF ANYONE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LENDING THEIR TIME FOR SUCH FESTIVITY. DID YOU SEE OUR TAI CHI CLASSES? WERE YOU THERE FOR THAT? I HAD SOMEBODY FROM I THINK SHE'S IN WAXAHACHIE, BUT SHE CAME UP AND DID TWO CLASSES. TAI CHI IS GREAT FOR OLDER PEOPLE I LOVE. OH, GOOD. SO I CAN GIVE YOU, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE CHARGES. WE. OF COURSE, SHE DIDN'T CHARGE FOR US, BUT. YEAH. YEAH, WELL, MY IDEA WAS TO FIND VOLUNTEERS, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, IF WE'RE PROVIDING, LIKE A FREE ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE WHOLE CITY, THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE A SPACE TO ADVERTISE THEIR CLASSES. AND IF PEOPLE LIKE THEIR BOND OR WHATEVER THEY'RE PUTTING OUT, LIKE TAI CHI TEACHER, THEY MIGHT CHECK OUT THEIR FULL TIME CLASSES. SO THAT'S I'M NOT LOOKING TO SPEND ANY MONEY. I'M TRYING TO SEE HOW WE CAN DO IT ON A $0 BUDGET. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. WELL, I DID GO TO HARVEY ON SUNDAY AT MATINEE, AND MY WIFE AND MY FATHER IN LAW ENJOYED IT, AND I ENJOYED IT, SO THAT WAS GOOD. WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSION, SO I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE STILL WANT TO HEAR POEMS, BUT. YES, YES, THIS ONE'S CALLED BLUES GONE BY. BLUES SWIRL ABOUT ECHOING HUGHES BEFORE SOME MIDNIGHT DARK AND BEST KEPT APART, WHILE OTHERS, DAYLIGHT SPUN WITH MELANCHOLY, SHARED QUIETLY TOGETHER. BOLUS TEAL SHADE SHOUT TELLING TALES, INDIGNANT TIRADES. STRUGGLING TO HOLD ON TO COOLER TONES. POLAR ICE SEEPS IN ON CLEAR, CLEAR TRACKS, MORE ACCEPTABLE AND POLITELY BLUE ALTOGETHER HUES TRANSFORMING, SHIFTING SORELY AS UNTO MOURNING, THEN SWEETLY TINGED WITH SHARED AFTERNOON TEA. AFTER FORGIVE, THE SILENT SLIPS INTO THE NAVY NIGHT WITH SHARED DREAMS ECHOING HUES BEFORE AND BLUES GONE BY. THAT'S VERY GOOD. YEAH, YEAH, THAT WAS GOOD. I MEAN, IT WAS DIFFERENT AND GOOD. IT WAS JUST DIFFERENT. SO DID YOU SUBMIT TO THE VIRTUES PROJECT? HAVE YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT? YOU DID OKAY. BEFORE I DO MY A COUPLE OF MINUTES, I JUST WANT TO SEE IF OUR COUNCIL LIAISON WANTED TO SHARE ANYTHING WITH THE GROUP. WELL THANK YOU, CHAIR. THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IS TOMORROW THE COUNCIL AGENDA IS. WE HAVE. WHAT WAS THE THING THAT WE HAVE ON THERE FOR THE BRIEFING? CULTURAL DISTRICT. CULTURAL DISTRICT? YES, IS ON THE BRIEFING. SO BRIEFING STARTS AT SIX AND WE ARE UP TO BE BRIEFED ABOUT HOW WE MOVE IT FORWARD WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND PICKING A STEERING CHAIR, HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO BE TAKEN ON IT, MOST LIKELY THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, AND ALSO DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING, THE APPLICANTS WHO APPLIED FOR FUNDING WILL WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT PUBLICLY AS WELL. SO IF YOU'RE AROUND, PLEASE COME OUT BECAUSE YOU ARE WOVEN THROUGHOUT OUR AGENDA. AND WHEN IS THIS AGAIN? I'M [00:15:01] SORRY. TOMORROW NIGHT. WHAT TIME SIX IS THE BRIEFING AND SEVEN ARE IMMEDIATELY AFTER BRIEFING. IS THE MEETING OKAY. SO WHAT IS STARTING AT 5:00, 5:00, 5:00? WE HAVE AN EARLY START. THANK YOU. WE HAVE AN EARLY START TOMORROW AT FIVE. SO IF YOU CAN MAKE IT OUT AT FIVE, COME ON. BUT THE THE WAY THE AGENDA IS SET, THE CULTURAL DISTRICT WILL BE A COUPLE ITEMS IN TWO. SO IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT UNTIL SIX WE TALK A LOT. SO WE WILL PROBABLY STILL BE TALKING ABOUT ITEMS WE WANTED TO. SO YOU'LL PROBABLY STILL MAKE IT IN TIME TO HEAR US DISCUSS THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. IS THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE IN THIS ROOM RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE COUNCIL CONFERENCE ROOM. OKAY. AND THEN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, I'M JUST GOING TO BACK UP A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO JUST GIVING YOU AN IDEA. OH. I'M SORRY, MISS, I JUST LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE DOING FIRST. WE'RE JUST ON COMMISSIONERS REPORT. LIMIT TWO MINUTES AND AND THEN IF YOU'VE DONE ANYTHING OR ART RELATED OR ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE GROUP, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SHARE IT WITH US. YOU KNOW, SINCE THE LAST MEETING TO NOW OR IN BETWEEN OR BEFORE, IT'S UP TO YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE ARTS RELATED AT THE MOMENT, BUT, I MEAN, I JUST STARTED MY NIGHT SHIFT CLINICAL, SO THAT'S KIND OF CATCHING UP TO ME RIGHT NOW. SO YEAH, I JUST DID. NOT A PROBLEM. YES, MA'AM. YES. SO YOU GOT A LOT ON YOUR PLATE. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING YOU UP ON A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND THEN WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT UNDER THE Q AND A SESSION. THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING BETWEEN THE TRANSITION OF THE. FORMER ARTS BOARD AND TO NOW WE DID I DID PARTICIPATE IN NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. THAT WAS VERY NICE. THERE WAS A DUNCANVILLE BOARD APPRECIATION THAT A LOT OF US ATTENDED PARKS AND REC, HAD THE MEMPHIS SOUL CONCERT WE HAD ATTENDED THE THEATER DEMONS OF FLEET STREET, WHICH WAS GREAT. THE ARTS COMMISSION PARTICIPATED IN THE BLUE BASH, WHICH WE GAVE OUT CANDY AT THE BOO BASH, AND THAT WAS AT THE FIELD HOUSE. AND THAT WAS WONDERFUL. I ATTENDED THE JOINT MEETING WITH THE ARTS FOUNDATION AND THE HILTON AND THE CITY EARLIER, AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT SOMETIME LATER. AS TO SOME OF THE STUFF GOING ON THERE, BUT THEY WANTED TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH THE ARTS AND VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. I DID WITH DUNCANVILLE ISD, THE FALL FAMILY LITERARY NIGHT AT ALEXANDER ELEMENTARY. ALEX SENT OUT A COUPLE OF REQUESTS WHERE THEY HAD ONE LAST WEEK, AND I THINK THEY HAVE ONE FOR THIS WEEK. I HAD PRIOR COMMITMENTS AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT SESSION, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT WE TRY TO DO CALCULATION, YOU KNOW, KEEP KEEP THOSE COMMUNICATION OPEN BECAUSE THE ARTS GROUP IS FAIRLY NEW AND WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE TRYING TO PROMOTE OURSELVES TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE HERE. RECENTLY WE DID A TOUR WITH THE OLDEN YEAR MUSEUM, WHICH I'LL ADDRESS THAT WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THAT PORTION OF IT. AND LIKE MARY ANN WAS SAYING, WE MET WITH THE NATIONAL HISPANIC COALITION GROUP AND ONE OF THE CHURCHES THAT HAS. A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE COULD PROBABLY CAPITALIZE ON. AND SO WE CAN FACTOR THAT INTO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE'RE DOING. ALSO ATTENDED THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE WE WERE ON THE AGENDA. WELL, NOT US PER SE, BUT THE APPLICANTS WHO HAD PUT IN FOR AN ARTS GRANT WERE GIVING THEIR PRESENTATION. SO IN THE FUTURE, WHEN IT'S REALLY GOOD AND I ASKED ALEX TO MAKE A COPY OF THIS FOR YOU, BUT THIS IS ONE OF OUR GRANT RECIPIENTS THAT'S GETTING READY TO HAVE THEIR PROGRAM. AND I THINK THAT AS AN ARTS COMMISSION THAT WHEN WE APPROVE A GRANT AND THE INDIVIDUAL IS DOING THEIR PROGRAM AND SO FORTH, IF YOU CAN, WE NEED TO BE REPRESENTED, SINCE WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GIVING THEM THE MONEY, SEEING HOW IT'S GOING, SEEING HOW EVERYTHING TURNED OUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR YOUR. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FOR YOUR PERUSAL. WHILE WE'RE TALKING [00:20:02] ABOUT THE NEXT THINGS. THIS IS SOMETHING I PUT TOGETHER FOR. THE ARTS COMMISSION TABLE WHEN WE'RE AT SOME OF THESE EVENTS, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS ASKING US, WHAT IS THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS GROUP AND WHAT DO THEY DO? AND I KNOW, AND SO SOMETIMES I THINK IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SEE, SOMETHING VISUALIZE, IT'S HELPFUL. AND I REALLY WANT AND THESE WERE I WOUND UP HAVING LIKE 250 PICTURES OF US. BUT BUT I ONLY COULD DO 20 FOR THIS PARTICULAR BOOK THING THAT I DID FOR US. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE, AND I THINK I'VE ASKED FOR IT ONCE OR TWICE, PERHAPS, ALEX, IF WE COULD HAVE A. SOME TYPE OF LITTLE BUSINESS CARD OR SOMETHING THAT HAS THE JUST YOUR PART OF IT DOWN HERE, THE COMMUNICATION AND THE QR CODES OR SOMETHING, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT ON THE TABLE AND GIVE IT AND GIVE IT TO THEM. SO THE FIRST PART OF THE BOOK IS MORE LIKE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN THE LAST PART WERE SOME OF THE GRANT RECIPIENTS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN SHOWING THE PEOPLE WHERE WE'RE AT EVENTS. SO THAT'S MY TWO MINUTE REPORT A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THAT. [4. Commission Member Question and Answer Session ] OKAY. HEARING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS AND ANSWER SESSION. AND THIS IS WHERE I WANTED TO SORT OF ADDRESS YOU ALL OR GIVE YOU ALL AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOU'RE NEW. JUST LIKE LINDA SAID EARLIER ABOUT ABOUT THE TWO TWO MINUTE PRESENTATION. BUT HAVING READ THE MINUTES AND GONE OVER ANYTHING AND YOU'RE NEW TO THE BOARD AND WE'RE DOING SOME THINGS, GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK US SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING OR WHERE WE'RE AT. I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE BECAUSE I'VE KIND OF LOST HERE. THERE'S A LOT OF I'VE MISSED A LOT OF ACTIVITIES. SO HOW DID HOW ARE YOU DISSEMINATING THE INFORMATION FOR US TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON? BECAUSE I'VE MISSED SOME THINGS SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, A LOT OF IT, SOME OF IT, SOME OF THESE MEETINGS, WE GET INVITES FROM OTHER FOLKS, LIKE THE FORMER CHAIR INVITED MYSELF AND COUNCILWOMAN GOODEN TO DO THE TOUR OF THIS MUSEUM, OR WE WERE ASKED TO, IF WE WANTED TO ATTEND THIS MEETING WITH THE NATIONAL HISPANIC. SO A LOT OF TIMES IT COMES THROUGH THE CHAIR AND THEN ALEX CAN DISSEMINATE IT OUT. IF WE NEED SOMEBODY ELSE OR OTHERS, YOU KNOW, SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE IS AVAILABLE. SOME OF IT COMES THROUGH THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD OR WE VOLUNTEER. FOR INSTANCE, THE PARK AND RECS OR THE LIBRARY OR THE FIELD HOUSE OR DIFFERENT PLACES, OR DOING A PROGRAM. THEY'LL EITHER CONTACT ALEX OR THEY'LL CONTACT THE CHAIR OR SOMETHING AND ASK IF WE WOULD PARTICIPATE. AND WE DO HAVE SOMETHING COMING UP ON AT CHRISTMAS BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE WE HELPED THE CITY BY HOSTING, BY MANNING THE TABLE FOR SANTA LETTERS. YES, SANTA LETTERS. THAT WAS IT. AND THEN SOMETIMES THEN THEY HAVE OTHER THINGS GOING ON. WE HAVE A TABLECLOTH. WE HAVE. BACKDROPS FOR REPEAT. WE'VE TRIED TO WE HAVE SOME SOME IDEAS, LIKE WHEN THEY HAVE, WHEN THEY ASK US TO SOMETIMES PARTICIPATE IN THINGS, THEY'LL WANT US TO MAYBE DO AN ART PROJECT AND WE COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS AND WE DO HAVE SOME SUPPLIES, PLENTY OF SUPPLIES FOR DIFFERENT LITTLE ART PROJECTS. WE'VE DONE PAINTING. WE DID PAINTING WITH THE LIBRARY. WE DID PAINTING OUT IN THE PARK. WE DID. ONE OF THOSE PIPE THINGS PIPE CLEANER ORNAMENT, PIPE CLEANER, ORNAMENTS. WE DID SOME HALLOWEEN FOR THE FALL FESTIVAL LAST YEAR. WE DID SOME AT CHRISTMAS TIME SHOWING KIDS HOW TO DO THAT, AND THAT WAS GOOD WITH THAT. THE KIDS GRAVITATE WE TO WE DID PAINTING ROCKS WHEN PARKS AND REC HAD A MOVIE NIGHT. WITH THE MOVIE I CAN'T A MILLION MILES AWAY, WHICH WAS THE FIRST HISPANIC TO GO TO SPACE AND AND SO FORTH. WE PARTICIPATED IN THAT AND WE HAD THEM PAINTING, DESIGNING THEIR OWN LITTLE MOON ROCK. AND THEN WE GAVE OUT MOON PIES. THEY JUST LOVED THAT STUFF. AND SO, SO. BUT IT'S OUR WAY OF, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALL COME OUT THERE, BUT WE JUST VOLUNTEER [00:25:02] AND WE DO SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW THAT THE THE COMMISSION IS HERE. AND THEN WE DO A LOT OF OTHER STUFF, WHICH YOU'LL SEE. AND WE DO HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE. HAVE YOU GOTTEN ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE? AND WE HAVE INSTAGRAM, RIGHT? YES, BUT NOT NEARLY AS ACTIVE AS THE FACEBOOK. IT'S A FACEBOOK. IT'S THE NOT AS ACTIVE AS IT NEEDS TO BE. FACEBOOK OKAY OKAY. I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED. WHATEVER YOU HAD, I KNEW NOTHING OF IT. I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY PARTICIPATED. WELL THAT YEAH, BUT THAT WAS PART OF THAT WAS HER THING. THAT WAS HER THING. IT WASN'T PART OF THE ARTS COMMISSION. I PROBABLY DID MENTION IT LAST TIME. YEAH, BUT MAYBE WITHOUT CONTEXT. YEAH, IT WAS DALLAS KINDNESS WEEK, AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I TALKED ABOUT. RIGHT. AND SO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN, WHEN MEMBERS TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND STUFF, LIKE DOING, LIKE WHEN YOU DID YOUR RHYTHM THING WITH PINK DIAMONDS, I MENTIONED THAT IN THE MEETINGS AND SO FORTH. SO, WELL, I KNOW THE LITTLE ART TOUR THAT WE DID THAT WAS SO WONDERFUL. YES. AND I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. WE DID THE ART TOUR. YEAH, THAT THAT WAS SINCE LAST MEETING WAS WONDERFUL. YEAH, THAT WAS WONDERFUL. YEAH, YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE I'M MISSING THINGS SO. WELL, BUT YOU'RE NOT THE THING THAT WE DID WITH THE HISPANIC CENTER WAS NOT. THAT WAS THE THE FOUNDATION, NOT THE COMMISSION. SO I WAS INVITED BECAUSE OF THE PODCAST, BUT THAT WAS REALLY THE COMMISSION. THEN YOU GOT INVITED, RIGHT? IT WAS KIND OF A LAST MINUTE MUSEUM. ONE WAS IT WAS NOT A COMMISSION THING. SO YOU DIDN'T MISS THAT. AND THE MUSEUM ONE WAS MORE OF IT WAS THE FOUNDATION WITH A GENTLEMAN NAMED MONTE. ANDERSON. ANDERSON. OKAY. MONTE ANDERSON. AND THAT WAS MONTE. OKAY. OKAY. AND SO THAT WAS AN INVITE FROM HIM. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. YEAH, I MEAN, THINGS, YOU KNOW, THE RULES ABOUT QUORUMS APPLY TO. SO THAT'S WHY WE AREN'T DOING HANDY DANDY MESSAGES LIKE WE USED TO. BUT YOU WOULD GET A A BCC EMAIL. YEAH. YEAH. ALEX IS VERY GOOD ABOUT TELLING US. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. WHEN, WHEN WE NEED SOMEBODY LIKE WHEN I, I WAS NOT ABLE TO DO THE DUNCANVILLE ISD. THOSE TWO EVENTS ALEX DID SEND FORWARDED OUT TO YOU ALL ASKING WAS ANYBODY AVAILABLE? AND IF YOU WERE NOT AND I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN STUFF TO YOU TO GO TO DO IT. OKAY. CAN WE GET THOSE IN? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS LIKE THREE DAYS BEFORE THE ACTUAL EVENT ITSELF. I THINK SHE ONLY SENT IT A WEEK BEFORE. SO THE PERSON THAT WHOEVER WAS REQUESTING IT WAS VERY OKAY. I JUST WONDERED BECAUSE I WAS REALLY A LOT OF THE THINGS WE WE GET ARE LAST MINUTE. THEY'RE LIKE, OH WAIT, LET'S EMAIL. LET'S SEE IF THE ARTS COMMISSION WANTS TO HAVE A BOOTH. YOU KNOW, AND HAVING BEEN ON THE PLANNING END OF SOME OF THOSE EVENTS, SOMETIMES YOU'RE LIKE, OH NO, WE NEED ANOTHER TABLE HERE. LET'S SEE WHAT CAN WE DO, YOU KNOW? AND THEN THEY REACH OUT TO ALEX, AND ALEX SENDS IT TO US. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A YEAR IN ADVANCE OR MONTHS IN ADVANCE OR ANYTHING, OKAY. LAST WEEK. YEAH, YEAH. AND NOW AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND SOMETHING THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, IF THERE ARE SOME PROGRAMS THAT WE WANT TO DO THINGS THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN DURING THE GRANT PROCESS IS THE TIME THAT WE NEED TO PUT IN OUR REQUEST FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT WE WANT TO DO. AND WHEN DO WE DO THAT? WHEN THE GRANT PROCESS OPENS, AND THEN WHEN YOU PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR US TO DISCUSS AND THEN PUT THE GRANT PROGRAM, PUT IT IN, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS ARE CHANGING, EVOLVING THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S HOW WE GET THE FUNDING FOR SOME OF THAT. SO JUST FYI, WHEN'S THE NEXT CYCLE? THE NEXT CYCLE STOPS. JUST STARTS DECEMBER 2ND, DECEMBER 2ND. AND WE DO NEED TO SCHEDULE A. WE NEED TO SCHEDULE AN INFO SESSION BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUIRED IN POLICY, MAYBE LIKE A WEEK OR SO BEFORE THAT, WHICH IS REALLY THANKSGIVING OR RIGHT AFTER THANKSGIVING. I WAS GONNA SAY, YEAH, BUT WE NEED A WE NEED TO WE ALREADY HAVE REALLY THE INFORMATION. WE JUST NEED THE LOCATION AND TO DO AN INFO SESSION AND GET SOMETHING OUT THERE. RON DID THE LAST ONE. THE FORMER CHAIR DID THE LAST ONE. I CAN DO THIS ONE OR ANYBODY ELSE. ALL OF US ARE CAPABLE OF DOING. HOW MANY INFO SESSION DO WE KNOW? THE LAST ONE WAS 4 OR 5. I THINK ABOUT 4 OR 5. IS IT POSSIBLE TO MOVE THAT TO A YOUTUBE THING AT SOME POINT? WE DO HAVE THE RECORDING OUT THERE OF THE PREVIOUS. YEAH. I MEAN, I'M ALMOST WONDERING IF THAT WOULD BE MUCH MORE FEASIBLE. YEAH, MORE FEASIBLE AND A BETTER USE OF EVERYBODY'S TIME, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AT THE INFO SESSION. AND THE ONLY ONE OF US, IF I WERE APPLYING, I WOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND WATCH. OKAY, WAIT A MINUTE. SLOW DOWN. LET ME SEE WHAT I NEED. I KNOW AS [00:30:04] PART OF OUR POLICY, MAYBE WE NEED TO AMEND THAT. THAT MAYBE WE NEED. I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE THAT THAT SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT BE A BETTER THING. SO I DID EMBED THAT VIDEO INTO THE APPLICATION PAGE SO THAT IT'S SITTING AT THE TOP. AND I EVEN GOT AN EMAIL TODAY. HEY, CAN YOU SEND ME THE APPLICATION SAID THE APPLICATION WILL OPEN ON THE SECOND. HERE'S THE ADDRESS. YOU CAN WATCH THE CURRENT INFO SESSION THAT'S POSTED THERE. SO THAT'S UP THERE AND THEN THAT SUFFICE. WELL THAT SUFFICE. DO WE HAVE TO HAVE AN IN PERSON? I MEAN TELL ME WHAT WE NEED TO DO. I WOULD SAY MAYBE WE TALK ABOUT THAT DURING THE POLICY DISCUSSION. AND MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WANT TO COVER. YOU WANT TO READ, WATCH THAT VIDEO AND SEE IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT ENCAPSULATES IT, AND IF ANOTHER VIDEO NEEDS TO BE MADE AND SWITCH IT HOWEVER YOU GUYS WANT TO DO IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. I THINK THE INFO SESSIONS I HAD ONE ONE THAT I WANTED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ABOUT, LIKE ALL THE EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND TOWN, WHICH WAS INTERESTING ABOUT HEARING THE FIRST QUESTION BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND A LIKE A GOOD LIKE DATABASE WHERE A LOT OF THESE EVENTS WERE GOING ON. AND IMMEDIATELY I WAS LIKE, OH, WELL, THERE'S A PROBLEM AND SOLUTION COULD BE FOUND IN THE FUTURE. YEAH, WELL, I FORGOT TO MENTION I DID GO TO THE LAST MEETING LAST WEEK WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHERE OUR LIAISON IS ALSO THE LIAISON FOR THAT ONE. THEY HAVE A NEW CHAIR. THEY ARE EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE PLANNING ON DOING, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE FOCUSING ON TOO. AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO TO ANY GROUPS. AND IT IS A PERENNIAL PROBLEM. HOW TO GET THAT TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE. ISN'T THERE A CALENDAR THOUGH THAT EVERYBODY CAN GO TO? WE DO HAVE AN EVENT CALENDAR EVENTS DOT DUNCANVILLE GOV AND IT IS THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO SUBMIT TO IT. THERE ARE LIKE AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S LIKE CERTAIN THINGS THAT QUALIFY AND DON'T QUALIFY THINGS TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT NEEDS TO BE SUCH. BUT AND WE DO HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO ACTUALLY DO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT CALENDAR. WHAT IS IT? EVENTS.GOV. AND YOU COULD ALSO FIND IT JUST BY GOING TO GOV. AND YOU'LL SEE EVENTS RIGHT ON THE FRONT PAGE AND YOU JUST CAN CLICK MORE EVENTS. YEAH I LOVE USING INSTAGRAM. AND THAT'S LIKE A REALLY GOOD WAY TO SHARE ALL THE REAL TIME INFORMATION. YEAH. AND I JUST REALIZED THAT THAT WAS LIKE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE YOU CAN DO REELS, YOU CAN DO VIDEOS, PHOTOS ESPECIALLY LIKE AHEAD OF TIME. YES. AND I MEAN. SOME OF THE EVENTS COULD BE COULD BRING IN MUCH MORE PEOPLE IF THERE WAS MORE TIME LIKE THAT. SO I DO LIKE OH, BY THE WAY, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD GET LIKE A DIGITAL COPY OF THIS? I EMAILED IT TO YOU. OH, PERFECT. DO YOU ORGANIZE ALL THIS? THE REST OF THE PAGES I DID NOT WERE NOT IN THE DIGITAL VERSION THAT I SENT YOU. THE AGENDA IS. BUT THERE IS A DIGITAL VERSION OF THE POLICY THAT I CAN GET ALL OF THAT TO YOU. YES. WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY I LIKE COOL STUFF, AND I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO DO THESE THINGS, SO I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, YEAH. ANYWAY, SO THE INSTAGRAM THING, LIKE CAN ANYONE JUST JUMP INTO THAT BECAUSE I MEAN IF THERE'S NOT LIKE ALEX WAS SAYING, THERE IS LIKE AN OFFICIAL INSTAGRAM PAGE OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, THE CITY'S GOT A VERY ACTIVE INSTAGRAM. IT'S GETTING STUFF ONTO THE ARTS COMMISSION'S INSTAGRAM. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING REGARDING THE ARTS. AND THEY DO HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE, BUT THAT THAT WOUND UP A PROCESS WHERE INFORMATION WAS GIVEN TO ME TO PUT ONTO IT, AND THAT SORT OF FELL TO THE WAYSIDE AS EVERYBODY GOT REALLY BUSY. YEAH. BUT I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN, ALL I NEED IS THE CONTENT OR IDEAS FOR CONTENT OR THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO PUT OUT. I KNOW I'VE GOT SOME CONTENT FROM YOU THAT I NEED TO GET OUT THERE, BUT THEN I CAN. WE WOULD HAVE TO POST THAT FOR YOU, BUT WE COULD DO THAT. OKAY. AND THEN A LOT OF TIMES WHEN ALEX POSTS SOMETHING ON DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION, AT LEAST I KNOW I'M ON WEBSITE, FACEBOOK, I FORWARD IT ON AND I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN MIDDLETON DOES. I MEAN, I JUST TRY TO EVERYTHING SHOULD HAVE A POST THAT'S UP THERE NOW, AND I'VE BEEN SENDING THAT OUT TO AND SHARING IT. CAN WE SHARE IT? YEAH WE SHARE. WE HAVE AN ACRONYM BY ANY CHANCE. ARE WE LIKE THAT? GO. YEAH. NO, BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO PUT LIKE. YEAH, WELL WE HAVE TO FOR THE CITY OKAY. FOR [00:35:01] ADA COMPLIANCE. WE GOT TO WE GOT TO DO THAT. I DO WANT TO BRING UP OKAY. LIGHTS OF THE PARK IS COMING UP. I KNOW DEVIN'S GOING TO SAVE YOU A TABLE. AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS GAVE ME A WINDOW TO BRING THAT UP REAL QUICK. YES. AND WHICH I SAID, AND THAT IS ON DECEMBER 4TH, AND IT'S THE LETTERS TO SANTA THING. ACTUALLY, WE NEED PROBABLY TWO TABLES. WE NEED ONE FOR THE ARTS THING. IS IT DECEMBER 4TH? DECEMBER 5TH? IT'S THE WHEREVER AND WHAT TIME? THURSDAY? OR IS IT FRIDAY? FRIDAY FOURTH IS A THURSDAY. YEAH. OKAY. THEN FIFTH. THEN IT MUST BE THE FIFTH. AND WHERE IS IT IS THE FIFTH OVER HERE AT ARMSTRONG PARK. OVER HERE. OKAY. WHAT IS THE PARADE? YEAH. IS IT THE FIFTH? YES, IT'S THE FIFTH. IT'S THE SAME TIME. SAME LIKE THEY HAVE THE PARADE AND THEN THEY HAVE THE PARADE, AND THEN THEY HAVE ALL THE ACTIVITIES AND ALL THE ACTIVITIES. AND WE WOULD BE RIGHT THERE IN THE PARK. SO IF I CAN GET IT, MAYBE 2 OR 3 PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER WHO LIKE KIDS. AND OH, I MEAN, REALLY, OUR TABLE GETS FLOODED WITH KIDS. NO MATTER WHAT WE DO. WE GET FLOODED WITH KIDS. AND I MEAN, THAT'S GOOD, BUT THEY LIKE IT. BUT WHAT TIME? I'LL HAVE TO FIND THAT OUT FROM DEVIN. MORE THAN LIKELY. SETUP WILL BE PROBABLY AROUND 3 OR 4, WHICH I CAN DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL PROBABLY JUST GO UNTIL EIGHT BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, ONCE IT GETS REALLY DARK AND IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO WRITE AND ALL THAT STUFF, THEN WE'RE PROBABLY FINISHED AFTER THAT. AND SO USUALLY STARTS AT SEVEN I THINK, OR SOMETHING. SO MAYBE EVEN START LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PARADE STARTS OR SOMETHING. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN WE JUST LIKE LAST YEAR WE WORE UGLY SWEATERS OR CHRISTMASSY SWEATERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS CUTE. SO BUT ONCE DEVIN SENDS ME THE SENDS ALEX INFORMATION, HE'LL SEND IT OUT. AND THEN WHOEVER IS AVAILABLE TO VOLUNTEER WILL VOLUNTEER. OKAY, SO DOES THAT ANSWER SOME OF YOU ALL'S OR CLARIFY SOME THINGS AND THEN SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING OR WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN, HOW WE DO IT. IF LIKE THE GRANTS APPLICATION PROCESS THAT HAPPENS HERE IN DECEMBER WOULD BE FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE YEAR, BECAUSE BY THE TIME IT GOES THROUGH ITS WHOLE PROCESS, IT'LL IT HAS TO GO THROUGH DIFFERENT SEGMENTS. SO YOU PLAN IT FOR A LITTLE BIT IN THE FUTURE. OKAY. SO YOU MAKE THE SUGGESTION, SEE IF HOW THE GROUP IS ABOUT IT. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST THAT WE CAN CONTINUE OR WE DON'T HAVE TO. THAT'S THE WILL OF THE BODY AND THEN WE JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. BUT NOTHING, NOTHING MOVES FORWARD UNLESS YOU PUT IT INTO MOTION. WE CAN TALK ALL DAY LONG, BUT UNLESS YOU PUT IT IN MOTION, NOTHING HAPPENS. OKAY. GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHTY. CAN I ADD ONE MORE? YES. SO IF YOU HAVE AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU WANT TO INCLUDE IN THE AGENDA, YOU CAN EMAIL THOSE TO ME, BUT PLEASE HAVE THEM. THE DEADLINES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN IT USED TO BE. YOU KNOW, IN A PERFECT WORLD, IF YOU CAN GIVE IT TO ME LIKE TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE MEETING, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL. I CAN GET IT ON THERE, I CAN GET IT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND I CAN MAKE SURE. BUT IT'S BUT ANYBODY CAN ASK FOR AN ITEM TO BE ON THE AGENDA. THAT SEEMS LIKE PRETTY IMPORTANT TO HAVE OUT THERE TOO. SO DO NOT FEEL LIKE I'M TRYING NOT TO DRIVE THIS. YOU ARE DRIVING THIS. IF YOU HAVE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO BRING TO THE GROUP, IDEAS, WHATEVER TOPICS, EMAIL ME, LET ME KNOW. HEY, ADD THIS TO THE AGENDA AND I'LL GET THAT OUT TO YOU AND UNDERSTAND IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE HE HASN'T POSTED IN ADVANCE THAT WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, IT HAS TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THAT. OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE FOR CLARIFICATION? OKAY. HEARING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO [5.A. Consider the October 28, 2025, Regular Meeting Minutes ] MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE. CONSIDER THE OCTOBER 28TH, 2025 MEETING MINUTES. ALEX SENT THOSE AHEAD OF TIME. HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW. MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY AMY JACKSON AND SECOND BY LINDA LYDIA TO APPROVE THE OCTOBER 28TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES AND READINESS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? EYES [5.B. Duncanville Fieldhouse Mural ] HAVE IT. MOTION CARRIES. HI. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION. DUNCANVILLE FIELDHOUSE BUREAU. OKAY, SO THIS IS WE'RE BRINGING THIS BACK. OKAY. READY TO COME BACK AGAIN? AS CRAIG WILL LET YOU KNOW. AND THE THE PHOTO KIND OF SHOWS PRETTY EVIDENTLY. HOW OLD [00:40:03] IS THIS NOW? HOW OLD IS THIS? 25 YEARS OLD. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S BARELY HOLDING ON. CRAIG HAS BUDGETED TO REDO THE MURAL AND THE. HE HAS A LIMITED BUDGET FOR THIS, BUT HE DOES HAVE A BUDGET. HE HAS A TIME FRAME OF REALLY WANTING TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH THIS WITHIN ABOUT SIX MONTHS. HAVE IT DONE. THE GOAL OF BRINGING THIS TO THE ARTS COMMISSION IS ASSISTANCE WITH LOCATING AN ARTIST. HOW DO IF YOU WANT TO BE INVOLVED, BEING INVOLVED IN FINDING AN ARTIST, BEING INVOLVED AND HELPING TO SELECT THE PIECE OF ARTWORK THAT GOES UP HERE AND POSSIBLY BRING BACK LIKE CREATE A CONTEST, GET SAMPLES, BRING THOSE TO CITY COUNCIL SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE THAT FINAL SELECTION OF OF ART THAT YOU RECOMMEND TO THEM ARE PIECES THAT YOU RECOMMEND TO THEM THAT THEY CAN MAKE THE FINAL SELECTION. THE BUDGET IS REASONABLY LIMITED, BUT THERE IS A BUDGET TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, AND THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR AN ARTIST TO GET THEIR NAME OUT THERE, TO HAVE A PORTFOLIO PIECE THAT IS REMARKABLE AND TO BE A PART OF DUNCANVILLE HISTORY. WHERE'S THE MURAL GOING TO BE LOCATED? IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. WHEN YOU WALK UP THE DOORS RIGHT HERE, YOU SEE THE FRONT ENTRANCE. SO IT'S ADJACENT FACING THE PARKING LOT WITH A FRONT ENTRANCE RIGHT HERE. SO YOU COME OFF MAIN STREET RIGHT HERE. IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT. OKAY. AND THE REASON WE CHOSE THIS PICTURE IS TO SHOW YOU THIS BLUE OFF BY THE WIND A YEAR OR SO AGO, AND THIS PICTURE REALLY LOOKS GREAT. IT DON'T LOOK NEAR THIS GOOD RIGHT NOW. IT'S FADED. AND REALLY. SO I WAS A LITTLE BIT HESITANT TO USE THE PICTURE BECAUSE IT LOOKED SO. BUT IT IS BLOWN OFF. IT'S IT'S SOME SORT OF A HAZARD WITH PEOPLE OUT IN THE, IN THE STREETS WITH THE WIND BLOWING. YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT. BUT WE DO WANT TO GET IT FIXED. WE'RE WE'RE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR WHAT, AT LEAST A YEAR, MAYBE TWO. YEAH. AND IT NEEDS TO BE ONE ICONIC PHOTO THAT CAPTURES WHAT WE'RE ABOUT, THE CITY AND MAKE IT SOMETHING ICONIC AND SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE THEIR PICTURE WITH, AND MAYBE A MESSAGE INCLUDED. AND WE LOOK TO YOU GUYS TO GIVE US THE IMAGE AND CREATE A CONTEST. ALEX USED TO WORK AT THE FIELDHOUSE, SO I'M PARTIAL TO ALEX AND WANTED TO SUPPORT THE CITY AND THE ARTS COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE OTHER THINGS THAT THAT WE CAN DO TO BE A PLAYER IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS THIS IS A WAY THAT WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO BE INVOLVED, TWO QUESTIONS. DOES IT HAVE TO BE PANELS RATHER THAN PAINTED ON THE. WELL, IF WE START CHANGING AND DOING COULD BE THIS, COULD IT BE ELECTRONIC? COULD WE CHANGE IT ONCE EVERY SIX MONTHS? WE JUST WE WILL BE HERE A YEAR AND A HALF FROM NOW. THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE WANT TO DO. PAINTED ON THE SURFACE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THESE PANELS BECAUSE THESE ARE PANELS IT LOOKS LIKE. YES, MA'AM. SO THIS IS NUMBER SIX IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WHAT'S IN RED DESCRIBES. AND THAT WAS OUR IDEA TO PUT IT BACK LIKE IT WAS. THIS IS WHAT THEY DID BACK IN THE DAY. WE COULD GO STRAIGHT ON THE BRICK. BUT THEN YOU GOTTA PUT SOMETHING OVER THE BRICK TO MAKE IT A SMOOTH SURFACE. AND AND SO WE JUST TOOK THE APPROACH WAS PUTTING IT BACK LIKE, I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME MURALS THAT ARE ON ON BRICK THAT ACTUALLY DOES NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH SMOOTHNESS THAT ARE REALLY GOOD. NOW THE NEXT QUESTION IS, DOES THE ARTIST HAVE TO BE A LOCAL DUNCANVILLE ARTIST IN ORDER TO COMPETE FOR THIS? THAT WOULD BE A COMMISSION. OKAY. SO WE WOULD MAKE THAT. WE WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION. OKAY. AND JUST FOR SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THOSE OF US THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A WHILE, WE WE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF RESEARCH AND STUFF DONE ON THAT AND LOOKED AT DIFFERENT ARTISTS AND MURALS, EVEN TALK ABOUT RAP. I WAS GOING TO SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT CRAIG, BACK WHEN TIM CAME AND WE ACTUALLY WROTE AN RFP THAT NEVER ENDED UP GOING ANYWHERE, BUT WAS A RAP, WHICH DOES LOOK REALLY GOOD ON BRICK, QUITE FRANKLY. I WENT THROUGH MCDONALD'S DRIVE THROUGH THE OTHER DAY AND THEY HAD A RAP ON THE BRICK, AND WHILE I WAS WAITING TO GO UP, I DID A LOT OF ANALYZING. AND IT DOES. YOU KNOW, RAP DOES LOOK GOOD ON BRICK. I WORRY ABOUT PAINTING DIRECTLY ON THE WALL BECAUSE OF THE WEAR AND THE ELEMENTS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. SO BUT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE COOL. BUT AND I KNOW THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN WE HAD LOOKED AT THIS BEFORE, IF WE HAVE A CONTEST OR WHATEVER, WE TALKED ABOUT AN AREA IN THE LOWER, MAYBE THE CENTER OF IT THAT WAS MAYBE AN INSTAGRAMMABLE TYPE OF PHOTO OP PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COULD HAVE THEIR PICTURE TAKEN WITH A HUGE GRILL BEHIND THEM, OR KIND OF KEEPING THAT IN MIND, IF IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IDEAS, ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING IS HIS. HIS BUDGET IS LIKE LESS THAN 20,000. AND THAT I KNOW THAT THE CHAMBER THE CHAMBER MURAL. BUT NOW GRANTED IT WAS TO PAINT ON THE BUILDING, BUT IT WAS RIGHT AT 10,000. SO I DON'T KNOW [00:45:07] WHERE THAT COMES IN WITH THE RAP OR ANYTHING ELSE. AND AND THAT WAS A LOCAL ARTIST WHO WAS MAYBE, PERHAPS GIVING US A GOOD DEAL SO SHE COULD HAVE HER NAME. I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT THAT WAS AROUND TEN, SO I DON'T KNOW. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT COULD HAPPEN FOR 20, YOU KNOW? WELL, 20,000 IS A GREAT BUDGET. I'M SERIOUS. BUT THIS IS A HUGE BUDGET. WELL, YOU SAID LESS THAN 20,000. YOU CAN DO BETTER. I GOT 70,000 FOR NINE SIGNS. OKAY. NOW THAT COULD BE. YEAH. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE MOVE THINGS AROUND. WE GOT NINE SIGNS THAT ARE BROKEN. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING. MY PERSON AT A TIME TALKING. MY QUESTION IS, WOULD THIS BE A GOOD THING TO APPLY FOR A GRANT PROPOSAL DURING THE GRANT CYCLE? FOR THE THE MURAL, THE THIRD. THE THIRD OPTION. MAKE A POST. BECAUSE IT'S PART OF OUR POLICY. WE DO HAVE THE THIRD ONE. THAT WOULD BE AT THE AT THE CITY CAN APPLY FOR FOR HIS HIS THE CITY COUNCIL. WOULDN'T THAT MEAN IT WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO AN ARTIST, A LOCAL ARTIST? WE'RE LOOKING AT ACCORDING TO THE GRANT, I READ IT RIGHT NOW. THE CITY CAN APPLY FOR THE THIRD ONE UP. YEARS AGO, I WAS. YEAH. ANOTHER PROJECT. OKAY. THE CITY CAN ONLY DO THE SECOND ONE. OKAY. YOU GUYS TO DO IS TO DRAW THIS AND GIVE US AN IMAGE ON THIS. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT, PUT IT ON. AND WE'RE NOT AVERSE TO WRAPS AND ANYTHING YOU GUYS WANT TO DO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE FINISH LINE IN THIS CONVERSATION FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. YES. BEEN APPROVED DOLLARS. I'VE GOT A BUDGET TO WORK WITH. WE GOT, LIKE I SAID, NINE OTHER SIGNS THAT ARE NEEDS HELP. THIS IS JUST ONE OF THEM HAPPENS TO BE THE BIGGEST OF THE GROUP, PROBABLY THE MOST VISIBLE, AND HAS MORE INTERACTION BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH IT. BUT WE STILL GOT TO FIX THE MARK. EXCUSE ME? THE MARQUEE OUT FRONT. THE BIG SIGNS UP TOP HAVE MELTED VINYL AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE AS WELL. AND JUST JUST ONE OF THEM. SO WE'RE OPEN. WAS THERE ANY SPECIAL LIKE SIGNIFICANCE ABOUT THIS MURAL? IT WAS ONE OF FOUR WHEN WE WHEN IT WAS DONE IN 2000. COMPUTER SCREEN. ON ONE OF THEM THERE WAS A VOLLEYBALL PLAYER AND A BASKETBALL PLAYER AND I FORGET WHAT THE OTHER ONE, BUT THEY WERE ALL ACROSS THE FRONT. THE STUDENT CENTER HAD LIKE A COMPUTER BOARD WITH A WIRE. THEY WERE ILLUSTRATING WHAT WAS INSIDE BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL AND COMPUTERS OR STUDIES, WHATNOT FOR THE STUDENT CENTER. SO THE OTHER ONES WERE TAKEN DOWN THROUGH THE YEARS. THE THE VOLLEYBALL WAS TAKEN DOWN WHEN I GOT HERE IN 16, THIS ONE STAYED THE ONLY ONE, IT STAYED. THE REASON I ASKED WAS BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS LIKE LIKE TRYING TO FIND LIKE INTERESTING WORKPLACE. AND IT'S JUST SO OBVIOUS THAT, LIKE, THE WORD DUNK IS IN DUNCANVILLE. SO I THOUGHT IT HAD SOME RELEVANCE. SELL A SPONSORSHIP TO DUNKIN. DUNKIN DONUTS. MY THOUGHTS. AND THIS IS JUST ME. AND THIS GOES BACK TO PERHAPS WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER PERRY, TIM PERRY ON THIS BEFORE, AND HE AND I TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE THE FACT THAT WE'RE WE ARE VOLUNTEERS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD PROBABLY BE IN FAVOR OF THE ARTS COMMISSION TAKING THE LEAD ON SOLICITING THE DESIGNS. I THINK IT'S COOL TO DO THAT. BUT THEN PERHAPS BEING NOT UNLIKE WHEN MONTY HAD AT THE COLAB THING WHERE THEY HAD ARTS THING, WE DIDN'T TAKE THE LEAD ON GETTING THE ART, BUT YET WE WERE PART OF THE THE ART REVIEW AND THAT KIND OF THING. I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT'S A LOT OF THE PHOTOGRAPHY. YOU MEAN. PARDON THE PHOTOGRAPHY ONE. YES. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO BE ACTIVE IN HELPING ENSURE THAT IT PROMOTES DUNCANVILLE AND THE WAY THAT WE WANT IT TO BE, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAVE THE. YEAH, THIS IS THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL. YEAH. THING. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING SOMEBODY LOCAL CAN DO. IT'S GIGANTIC. I WOULD LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO SUBMIT RFPS. I KNOW A BUNCH OF I KNOW SOME LOCAL MURALISTS WHO DO BIGGER PROJECTS THAN THIS. REALLY I DO TOO. THEY'RE AWESOME. THEY'RE IN THIS AREA. THIS IS NOT A BIG QUESTION. ARE YOU GUYS WERE DISCUSSING ABOUT TIME PERIODS THAT YOU GUYS BEEN DISCUSSING THESE THINGS FOR LIKE TWO YEARS? OH, IS THERE LIKE WE HAVE LIKE TIME LIMITS OR LIKE AT LEAST GOALS. HE WOULD LIKE SIX MONTHS, AT LEAST IN THAT SENSE, JUST SO WE CAN, LIKE, AIM FOR SOMETHING INSTEAD OF JUST LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, [00:50:01] JUST TALK ABOUT IT. IT'S NEVER BEEN AN RFP FOR IT. NOBODY'S EVER BEEN. YEAH, IT'S NEVER GOTTEN TO THAT PART YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS MONTH. OKAY. SO. WELL, I'VE WORKED ON COMMITTEES WHERE WE'VE DONE THIS FOR DIFFERENT CITIES. AND THIS THE HARDEST PART IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. YOU JUST YOU DO HAVE TO DO THE WORK BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT REPRESENTS THE CITY. AND SO BUT ONCE YOU GET IT UP AND FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S JUST A THE HARDEST PART IS US SITTING DOWN FIGURING OUT WHAT WE WANT ON THERE. AND ONCE WE DO THAT, IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER. YEAH. I REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD A LITTLE COMMITTEE, A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE CITY WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THE LOGO, THE NEW LOGO FOR DUNCANVILLE. I MEAN, WE HAD SUBMISSION, VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, DESIGNS. AND THEN IT WAS JUST DECIDED BY THE COMMISSION, WHICH DECIDED WHICH DESIGN WE THOUGHT MOST REFLECTED DUNCANVILLE AND DUNCAN. DUNCANVILLE. THAT WAS AN INTERESTING TAKE OFF ON THAT. OKAY. LIKE I WAS THINKING ABOUT LIKE A DUNCANVILLE DUNK CONTEST, LIKE IN THE FUTURE, BUT I'M NOT SEEING IT. YEAH, YEAH, WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO IN THAT SENSE, LIKE, I REMEMBER I WAS WORKING FOR THE 7-ELEVEN HEADQUARTERS AND MY MANAGER WAS REALLY, REALLY SMART. AND HE CREATED LIKE A WORD MAP THAT BASICALLY ILLUSTRATED ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING THAT WE WERE HAVING IN OUR DEPARTMENT IN LIKE SINGULAR WORDS. AND IT WAS JUST LIKE AN INTERESTING MAP. I THINK IT WOULD BE KIND OF COOL IF WE DID THAT FOR DUNCANVILLE. A WORD MAP REGARDING LIKE, THE IDENTITY OF DUNCANVILLE IS. SO WE COULD, LIKE, BETTER CHOOSE LIKE THESE THINGS BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING LIKE AN IDENTITY FOR DUNCANVILLE, BUT, I MEAN, I'M NOT TOO SURE OF WHAT IDENTITY CENTERVILLE HAS, SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF INTERESTING, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE LOGO, MR. LUCAS? THE LOGO. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD. I LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE REAL QUICK BECAUSE GOING ALONG THE SAME LINES AS JUST THIS IMAGE RIGHT HERE, WE ALSO HAVE LIKE ONE OF THE TOP WOMEN'S BASKETBALL TEAMS FOR DUNCANVILLE HIGH SCHOOL. RIGHT. SO IF WE CAN JUST BECAUSE LIKE WE HAVE LIKE A POWERHOUSE HIGH SCHOOL, RIGHT? I'M JUST THINKING YES. ALONGSIDE FOR AT LEAST THE IMAGE, WE DO SOMETHING THAT HELPS REPRESENT LITERALLY SOMETHING THAT CAN BRING IN AS MUCH ECONOMIC REVENUE AS AT SCHOOL. SO. I'M JUST THINKING FOR THAT, LIKE IMAGERY. AND MY THOUGHT IS JUST HAVING A WELL, IF WE PUT TOGETHER LIKE A CONTEST OR A CALL FOR ARTISTS AND LET THE ARTIST DO THEIR RENDERING, YOU TELL THEM WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND LET THE ARTIST DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. AND THEN WE LOOK THROUGH THERE AND, AND MAYBE SELECT FROM THERE. ABSOLUTELY. BUT LET THE ARTIST REALLY LET THE ARTISTS A POEM ABOUT THEM. YEAH, YEAH. IT'S THE ARTIST'S CREATIVITY. INSTEAD OF TELLING THEM, WE TELL THEM SOME OF THESE LITTLE VARIABLES THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE. HOW DO YOU HOW WOULD YOU SHOW DUNCANVILLE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. AND THEN MAYBE EVEN HAVE A CONTEST WHERE WE POST ALL THE DIFFERENT DESIGNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE AND LET LET THE PUBLIC COME AND VOTE ON IT. I MEAN, THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS YOU COULD DO IT. WELL, OUR PLAN IS TO GET STARTED WITH THIS AS EARLY AS A COUPLE OF WEEKS. NOT THIS, NOT THIS. LIKE I SAID, I GOT NINE SIGNS, OKAY? AND IT'S DARK. I MEAN, THE SIGNS ARE FADED AND AND WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE. THIS IS BEING THE LARGER OF THE MIND. BUT IF YOU DRIVE BY THE FIELDHOUSE WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE TONIGHT, JUST LOOK AT THE FIELDHOUSE LOGO ON THE BUILDING, THE VOLLEYBALL AND THE BASKETBALL IS TURNED BLACK OKAY. BECAUSE THE VINYL IN THE TEXAS HEAT HAS MELTED AGAINST THE IT DOESN'T DO IT ON THE WORD FIELDHOUSE, JUST ON THE VINYL BASKETBALL AND VOLLEYBALL. SO EVERY ONE OF OUR SIGNS HAVE TURNED. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THE LIGHTS AND THE MARQUEE OUT IN FRONT, ALL THE PANELS, EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. IT'S JUST TIME TO DO IT, THIS BEING ONE OF THEM. AND IF EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT WITH OUR ALL OF OUR BIDS WE'RE GETTING, WE'LL HAVE ALL THIS PUT TOGETHER IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND WOULD LIKE TO GET STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE MONEYS WOULD BE. MAYBE COUNCIL KNOWS HOW LONG MONEY. WHEN YOU APPROVE SOMETHING, IS IT FOR A YEAR OR HOW LONG DOES IT LAST? I MEAN, HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO SPEND THIS DOLLARS TO? WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? IF WE'RE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR SOME TIME, AND NOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE MONIES HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED THROUGH THE HOT FUNDS AND WE'RE FIXING FLOORS, [00:55:03] WE'RE FIXING CARPET, WE'RE FIXING SIGNS. CARPET IS STARTING NEXT WEEK, GYM FLOORS WEEK AFTER THAT. WE'RE FINISHING THIS UP. HOW LONG? SO IF WE DO HALF THE SIGNS BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH, HOW LONG DOES THE OTHER MONIES LAST INTO THE YEAR? DOES IT FISCAL YEAR? IT'S OVER. AND NOT FUNDS HAVE TO BE SPENT FISCAL YEAR. BUT THERE'S ONLY AGREEMENT THAT WENT ALONG WITH THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE FUNDS. SO PROBABLY WANT TO LOOK TO THE AGREEMENT AND SEE IF THERE WAS A DESIGNATED DEADLINE. BUT IF NOT, MOST LIKELY IT'S THE FISCAL YEAR. YEAH, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH JENNIFER. MATTER OF FACT, SHE WROTE ME THE FIRST EMAIL TODAY TO GIVE ME THE SCOPE OF WORK AND ALL THE THINGS I HAD TO DO TO PRESENT FOR YOU GUYS, AND I DID THAT TODAY. THEN I FOUND OUT I HAD TO GET EVERY DUNCANVILLE FLOORING COMPANY HAD TO BE NOTIFIED. YEAH, WE GOT WE GOT ONE. BUT IT ELTON SAID, HEY, YOU GOT TO GO FIND ALL OF THEM. SO I'VE BEEN ON THE PHONE ALL DAY CHASING CARPET. BUT AT ANY RATE, I DON'T MEAN IN MY BUSINESS. SO. SO WHEN YOU SAY FISCAL YEAR, THAT MEANS THEY HAVE UNTIL JULY OR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDS SEPTEMBER 30TH SEPTEMBER. SO THEY HAVE UNTIL SEPTEMBER. OKAY. WE'RE SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ENGAGE ALL OF OUR PROJECTS WITH THIS ONE BEING PROBABLY THE BIGGER OF MOST MOVING PARTS AND THIS BEING THE BIGGEST PROJECT OUT OF ALL THE THINGS WE'RE DOING. WOULD YOU LIKE FOR HE AND I TO KIND OF LIKE, BRING OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOME KIND OF CALL FOR ARTISTS SLASH CONTEST THAT CAN RUN FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS, THEN MAYBE WE CAN CREATE A POLL WHERE THE COMMUNITY GETS TO HAVE A SAY IN IT, AND THEN YOU SELECT THE THREE AND THEN THAT GO TO COUNCIL, AND THEN COUNCIL SELECTS THE ONE. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. SOUNDS GREAT TO ME. YEAH. PUT THE PRESSURE ON COUNCIL THEN DRAW IT UP REBECCA COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT. THAT'S REALLY ALL I WAS GOING TO. IS THERE ANYTHING SIMILAR NEARBY THAT'S LIKE THAT THAT SIZE. AND I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WOULD EVEN BE. DEEP ELLUM HAS STUFF THAT THAT SIZE THAT BIG. OH YEAH. DEEP ELLUM HAS SOMETHING ELSE I CAN BRING YOU. OKAY, WELL, THEY'VE GOT, LIKE, MULTI-STORY BUILDINGS AND IT'S USUALLY PAINTED ON. RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, THINGS THAT ARE ON PANELS, DO THEY HAVE THOSE? I MEAN, I CAN'T THINK OF IT EXAMPLE, BUT I KNOW I'VE SEEN THEM. BUT THAT'S NOT COMING TO MIND. YEAH. I MEAN I'VE SEEN THE PAINTINGS AND WHAT DO YOU KNOW, DIMENSIONS. YOU'VE GOT THEM BY PANEL, BUT. YES, MA'AM, THERE'S 20,000 SQUARE FOOT. IT'S 25 HIGH AND 40 LONG, 25 BY 40. OKAY. SO THERE'S THERE'S 20 OF THESE. FIVE BY TENS. YES. YEAH. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR. I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE MATH. SO 40. YEAH. OKAY. AND THAT'S WRITTEN IN YOUR, IN YOUR, IT'S IN THE PAPER YOU GAVE. RIGHT. AND WE HAD IT. WE HAD IT PREVIOUSLY TOO. WE HAD THAT INFORMATION PREVIOUSLY OKAY. SO AM I HEARING THAT YOU ALL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND. GET AN ARTIST OR GO GET A COUPLE OF ARTISTS I'D LIKE TO CALL TO MAKE A MOTION. I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FOLLOW. THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS PRESENTED, THAT WE LET THE TWO GENTLEMEN AT THE END OF THE TABLE COME TOGETHER AND PUT SOMETHING FOR ARTIST CALLS, AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE. ON THIS PROJECT. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY LINDA. LYDIA SECOND BY MARY ANN TAYLOR, THAT ALEX AND CRAIG MOVED FORWARD WITH A ARTIST EXPLORING ARTIST COMPETITION. OKAY. WE'LL PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING TO YOU ON THE 15TH. AS FAR AS AN IDEA, WE'LL PITCH. I'LL PITCH YOU SOMETHING. HAVING WORKED WITH HIM. AND THEN YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT YOU LIKE OF IT, WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE OF IT, WHAT YOU WANT CHANGED, AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO JUST GET THIS, GET THIS GOING. IT'S MOVING. YEAH. ANY UNREADINESS, ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. AYES HAVE IT. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU WANT TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND THINGS GOING ON. AND WHAT A BETTER WAY THAN SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO TIE IT TO A VERY POSITIVE, EXCITING GOOD DEAL FOR ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THINKING ABOUT US. APPRECIATE YOU WORKING TOGETHER. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING ON [5.C. Arts Grants Policy Review ] TO NEXT ONE IS ARTS GRANT REVIEW POLICY. HAS ANYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO GO OVER THE ARTS GRANT. OH I JUST WANT TO. SO I PUT A THERE'S TWO YOU HAVE TWO VERSIONS OF THE POLICY SITTING [01:00:01] IN FRONT OF YOU IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET IS THE CURRENTLY ADOPTED POLICY WITH NO CHANGES BASED ON GOING BACK AND REVIEWING CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING HERE. THINGS THAT WERE SAID DURING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING PUT IN SOME ITEMS IN RED THAT MAY ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE ALL DISCUSSING. SINCE THE PREVIOUS POLICY WAS ADOPTED AND HAS GONE LIVE. OKAY, SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GO TO UNDER ELIGIBILITY AND RESTRICTIONS. YES, YES. COMMON THEME IS. ONE OF THE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS WHEN THE DATE WAS WHEN DATES WERE OF EVENTS WERE SO TRYING TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT REGARDING A SPECIFIC DATE FOR THE EVENT THAT THE REGULAR CONVERSATION ALMOST IN EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION REVIEW HAS BEEN BUDGETS, WHETHER A BUDGET HAS BEEN SUBMITTED OR NOT. SO I PUT IN THE LANGUAGE APPLICATIONS, MAYBE APPLICATION SUB MITTED WITHOUT A BUDGET MAY BE CONSIDERED INCOMPLETE AND INELIGIBLE FOR REVIEW. SO SOMETHING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT CAME UP WHEN I WAS GOING BACK AND REVIEWING THE LAST APPLICATION REVIEW, IS THAT YOU HAD ALL DISCUSSED AS A GROUP CAME UP ABOUT THE ART GRANT, BEING THIS ART GRANT BEING THE SOLE SOURCE, AND IT SEEMED LIKE YOU WANTED SOMETHING THAT SAID PEOPLE SHOULD COME TO THIS WITH OTHER SOURCES THAT ARE FUNDING IT. PEOPLE HAVE APPLIED FOR $20,000 FOR SUPPORT OF THEIR EVENT OR THEIR PROJECT, AND IT LOOKED LIKE THAT WAS EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING TO FUND IT. I ALSO PUT IN A THING ABOUT A RESTRICTION APPLICANTS WHO HAVE RECEIVED A PRIOR GRANT, BUT NOT YET COMPLETED THE FUNDED PROJECT OR HAVE FAILED TO SUBMIT THE REQUIRED FINAL REPORT, ARE INELIGIBLE FOR NEW FUNDING UNTIL ALL OBLIGATIONS ARE FULFILLED. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL HAD DISCUSSED DURING THE RECENT MEETINGS DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW IF I NAILED THE LANDING ON THIS ONE, BUT BEST PRACTICES. I ALSO INCLUDED THAT BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN TALK ABOUT WHEN PEOPLE SHOULD BE APPLYING SO THAT THEIR GRANT IS GIVEN ENOUGH TIME TO BE CONSIDERED AND IS APPROPRIATE FOR WHEN THEY'RE HOLDING THEIR EVENT. UNDER APPLICATION PROCEDURES AND GRANT PROCESS CYCLE. IT'S JUST ANOTHER REFERENCE TO APPLICANTS ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES. THIS GRANT PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO SUPPLEMENT EXISTING PROJECT FUNDING, NOT TO SERVE AS THE SOLE SOURCE OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT. BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF FIRST TIME APPLICANTS AT THIS POINT, THEY'RE LIMITED IN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, SO I THINK THAT THERE MAY BE INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING FOR THE PIE IN THE SKY. I'M GOING TO GO FOR THAT $20,000, BUT I DON'T HAVE A NONPROFIT, AND THAT HAS CAUSED A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AROUND THAT. DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS GOING FORWARD. A COUPLE POINTS. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL POLICY, BUT AN ACCEPTANCE OF AWARD OR DECLINING AN AWARD. THERE IS NOT AN OPTION FOR REALLY DOING THAT AS FAR AS IN WRITING AS PART OF THE POLICY. SO DECLINING ACCEPTANCE BY ACCEPTING A GRANT OR THE RECIPIENT AGREES TO COMPLY FULLY WITH ALL TERMS, RESPONSIBILITIES AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN THIS POLICY. ACCEPTANCE CONSTITUTES A BINDING AGREEMENT TO CARRY OUT THE PROPOSED PROJECT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE APPROVED TIMELINE, BUDGET AND SCOPE. DECLINING AWARD APPLICANTS MAY FORMALLY DECLINE AN AWARD BY NOTIFYING THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION IN WRITING WITHIN TEN BUSINESS DAYS OF RECEIVING THE AWARD NOTICE. DECLINED FUNDS MAY BE REALLOCATED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. AGAIN, I HAVEN'T HAD THE CITY ATTORNEY VET THESE YET, BUT THESE ARE JUST SOME IDEAS BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT HAVE COME BACK DURING THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING APPLICATIONS BY BOTH THE COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? AMY, CAN I CIRCLE BACK TO THAT ORIGINAL QUESTION ABOUT DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE I'M LOOKING FOR IT IN HERE WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN INFORMATIVE, YOU KNOW, THE INFOMERCIAL, WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE ON THE MATRIX ON PAGE, I GUESS ON PAGE UNDER THE APPLICATIONS, PROCEDURES AND GRANT CYCLE SCHEDULE. SEE DOWN VERSUS QUARTERLY SCHEDULE. LIKE I SAID, MARKETING AND INFO SESSION. OKAY. BUT MAYBE [01:05:02] SOMEPLACE WE CAN PUT IN HERE THAT THE INFO SESSION CAN BE I FEEL FIRMLY ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I ALSO THINK HAVING AS SOMEONE WHO'S APPLIED FOR HOT FUNDS BEFORE WITH THE THEATER MANY TIMES, SOMETIMES IT'S EASIER TO SIT AT HOME AND WATCH THAT THAT VIDEO IN YOUR YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO ASK. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW. AND I FEEL LIKE HAVING THAT ABILITY TO WATCH THAT AND WATCH IT OVER AGAIN AND HIT PAUSE AND GO WAY BACK, LET ME LOOK AND SEE, I THINK, AND THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE ANYONE. ANYBODY CAN COME TO THIS MEETING AND THEY CAN SIGN UP AND SPEAK FOR TWO MINUTES, YOU KNOW, AND SAY THINGS. BUT I THINK THAT IT WOULD PERHAPS BETTER SERVE APPLICANTS TO HAVE THAT, BECAUSE ALSO EVERY INFO SESSION IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID OR WHATEVER. AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE ONE, THIS IS THE GO TO AND THEN WE CAN CHANGE IT. BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE APPLYING, THEY ALL THEY ALL HEAR THE SAME THINGS. AND SO I THINK FOR CONTINUITY, TO ME THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD WAY TO HANDLE THAT. SO DEPENDING ON WHAT WE CHANGE WE MIGHT HAVE TO REDO THE VIDEO. IF IT'S CHANGED WHAT WE WOULD SAY IN THE INFORMATION. RIGHT. AND I'M SAYING WE CAN DO THAT. I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'D BE REALLY COOL TO HAVE THE VIDEO BE THERE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND WE HAVE SOME SLIDES. THAT FORMER CHAIR, MISS THOMPSON HAD AND HAD THIS AND WE HAVE CHANGED IT. AND ANY ONE OF US COULD DO ANYTHING. WE CAN DO AN ADDENDUM TO IT. BUT THE, THE. MOST OF THE THINGS THAT THAT ALEX HAS ADDED TO IT. YEAH, I THINK IT'S GREAT. IT'S THINGS THAT WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE'VE BEEN DOING THOSE REVIEWS. SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS TO ADD A VIRTUAL SESSION. I WANT AN ONLINE INSTEAD OF AN IN-PERSON SESSION, YOU KNOW, HAS THAT MARKETING AND INFO SESSION. I FEEL LIKE THAT NEEDS TO BE AN ONLINE ACCESSIBLE CLICK, YOU KNOW, TO THE CITY OR THE ARTS COMMISSION'S PAGE, LIKE ON THE ARTS COMMISSION'S PAGE. HAVE A CLICK FOR YOUR AND YOU KNOW, WANT TO APPLY FOR A GRANT? CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFORMATION. AND THEN IT CAN GIVE THEM THAT OVERVIEW THAT THEY CAN WATCH OR OR YOU KNOW, LIKE LOOK AT THE THEATER. I'VE GOT A BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I COULD FORWARD THAT. HEY, EACH OF YOU LOOK AT THIS WHEN YOU HAVE TIME AND LET'S GET BACK AND CIRCLE BACK AROUND AND TALK SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T GET EVERYBODY THERE AT THE MEETING. AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I JUST FELT LIKE THAT. THAT MIGHT BE IN TODAY'S WORLD. I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERY TIME I NEED TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING, I'M LOOKING. I GO, IS THERE A YOUTUBE VIDEO? YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOMETHING I WANT TO WATCH THAT'LL HELP ME KNOW HOW TO DO THAT? AND PEOPLE ARE SO BUSY THAT THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY TO EVEN GET MORE INFORMATION OUT, GET INFORMATION OUT THERE AND GET MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE APPLICANTS, IS WHAT I WAS THINKING WOULD BE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING BOTH? BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE REALLY DO PREFER IN-PERSON IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO ASK A QUESTION TO AN INFOMERCIAL OR A YOUTUBE VIDEO. AND IF THESE ARE ALL NEW PEOPLE WHO'VE NEVER APPLIED FOR A GRANT BEFORE, THEY DO HAVE QUESTIONS. I'M SURE THAT MAY BE SOMETIMES. SOMETIMES FOR A QUESTION WE COULD ALWAYS HAVE AT THE END. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS TO REACH OUT TO, THE LIAISON, I'M SURE ALEX WOULD LOVE THAT. IT ALREADY HAPPENS. DOES IT NOW IT'S IN THE POLICY. YEAH, YEAH, IT DOES IT NOW CAN I, I I'M, I FEEL REMISS IF I DON'T BRING THIS ONE UP. THIS WAS A CONVERSATION THAT CAME UP QUITE A BIT IN THE LAST APPLICATION REVIEW. IT'S UNDER GENERAL GENERAL ELIGIBILITY. UNDER APPLICANTS MUST BE 18. PLUS APPLICANTS MAY RESIDE OUTSIDE DUNCANVILLE, BUT THE PROPOSED EVENT MUST TAKE PLACE WITHIN DUNCANVILLE CITY LIMITS OR HAVE A DIRECT AND DEMONSTRABLE CONNECTION TO THE CITY E.G. PUBLIC ART, INSTALLATION, COMMUNITY PROGRAMING, VENUE PARTNERSHIP. THERE. THAT WAY IT GETS YOU OUT OF THAT. IT CREATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SAY, THIS PERSON'S IN DALLAS, THIS PERSON'S IN FORT WORTH, THIS PERSON IS IN NEW YORK CITY, BUT THEY'RE DOING THIS THING HERE IN DUNCANVILLE AND MAKING IT A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE A BUSINESS HERE OR RESIDENCE HERE PREVENTS THAT FROM COMING HERE. SO I PUT THAT IN AS IN RESPONSE TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD. BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE OR WHY DO WE HAVE TO GO ON WITH IT. TO TAKE PLACE WITHIN DUNCANVILLE? TO ME, SEEMS PLENTY. IT'S A GOOD CHANGE, BUT THE DIRECT AND DEMONSTRABLE CONNECTION. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE HAVE THAT. THEY'RE ALL READING. I'VE GOT PEOPLE TO READ. THAT'S UNUSUAL [01:10:01] FOR ME. SORRY. I CAN SEE THAT. IF IT ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. I CAN SEE THAT IF IT WERE SOMETHING AT THANKS-GIVING SQUARE OR DALLAS OR SOMEPLACE, AND WE WERE REPRESENTING DUNCANVILLE AND WE WANTED TO TAKE THAT PERFORMANCE THERE TO REPRESENT DUNCANVILLE, THAT COULD BE HAVE A DEMONSTRABLE, A DIRECT AND DEMONSTRABLE CONNECTION TO THE CITY, BUT NOT NECESSARILY BE HERE. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT, BUT I THINK THAT IT GIVES APPLICANTS, YOU KNOW, SOME FLEXIBILITY. YEAH, THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE THEATER. WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN AND PERFORM SOME COOL THING THAT WAS ON THE HISTORY OF DUNCANVILLE AND SHOW EVERYBODY IN DALLAS COUNTY HOW WONDERFUL WE WERE. WE MIGHT WANT TO APPLY FOR A GRANT IN ORDER TO DO THAT. I MIGHT NOT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK AHEAD AROUND THAT AND THE WAY I THINK OF THE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT, MARIANNE, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF DUNCANVILLE, CEDAR HILL, DESOTO, RIGHT ON THAT BORDER. AND THERE MIGHT BE LIKE PART OF CAMP WISDOM IS DALLAS, AND PART OF CAMP WISDOM IS DUNCANVILLE. AND MAYBE. AN EVENT MIGHT WANT TO TAKE PLACE, BUT IT HAS A DALLAS ADDRESS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALWAYS MAYBE ASSOCIATED WITH DUNCAN. WELL, AND WE STILL GET TO PICK, I GUESS. EXACTLY NOT SO I AND SO THAT GIVES US THAT THAT OPENING. YEAH. I ALSO THINK OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT BOUNDARIES GO INTO DALLAS. SO IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING EVEN WITH ONE OF THE SCHOOLS THAT MIGHT HAVE DALLAS ADDRESS, BUT IT'S DUNCANVILLE ISD SCHOOL, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE SO I LIKE THAT WORDING. IT JUST GIVES US FLEXIBILITY. IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, DEMAND ANYTHING. BUT IT DOES GIVE US FLEXIBILITY TO CONSIDER THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. OKAY. I HAVE ANOTHER ONE TOO. NOBODY ELSE DOES. I'M SORRY. OKAY. SO IT'S A SIMILAR THING YOU HAVE HERE. MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES MUST BE DEMONSTRATED. BUT ON NUMBER SEVEN YOU HAVE APPLICANTS ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO PURSUE. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THOSE SHOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT. IT EITHER HERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXPLANATION OF THAT OR CUT THIS BACK TO SHOULD OR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT SO MUST. YEAH. ONE IS DEFINITIVE AND ONE IS POSSIBLE DOWN HERE. DOES EVERYBODY SEE WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT? ONE IS A MUST AND ONE'S A SHOULD. THEY BOTH NEED TO BE EITHER BOTH MUST OR BOTH. SHOULDS TWO PAGES OVER. OKAY. SO NORMALLY I WOULD GET. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T DECIDED IS IF IT'S A MUST STRONG RIGHT. YES. SO VERB TENSE I CAN'T REMEMBER JUST WHAT IT IS. SO IS IT A MUST OR IS IT STRONGLY SUGGESTED. WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT'S THIS IS YOURS, RIGHT? THIS IS WHAT YOU KNOW. THIS IS SOME OF THE THINGS HE HEARD. THIS IS SO ACROSS TECHNICALLY, THESE APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN VETTED THREE TIMES. THE FIRST ROUND BY THE ARTS COMMISSION AT THE TIME AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEN THIS, THIS THIRD TIME WITH THIS SECOND BATCH. SO AND YOU GUYS ARE ABOUT TO HAVE ONE IN JANUARY, I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO VET ANOTHER BATCH. SO IT'S JUST BASICALLY THE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU HAVE ALL HAD. THIS PERSON IS NOT ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIVE IN DUNCANVILLE OR AND THEN YOU YOU WIND UP, YOU'VE HAD NEGOTIATIONS WITH YOURSELF BECAUSE ULTIMATELY YOU'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THEM TO ULTIMATELY MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. BUT YOU WERE NEGOTIATING THAT WITH YOURSELVES BETWEEN THE POLICY HOT FUNDS RULES AND ALL OF THIS. AND IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE TAKING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND SEEING HOW TO INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE POLICY. AND THIS ONE, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. OKAY. JUST FOR THIS ONE, THOUGH, IT SEEMS A LITTLE RESTRICTIVE. LIKE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO A SCHOOL, WHERE WOULD THEY GET EXTRA MONEY? I YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THEM DO CHARGE A FEE. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MAYBE HALF THE TIME SOMEBODY'S CHARGING. BUT SOMETIMES I THINK WE JUST COULD WE JUST PUT MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED. IS THIS THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE A PREFERENCE ON THIS? IS THIS PART OF WHAT YOU DISCUSSED? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS DISCUSSED THIS AS WELL. SO IS THIS PART OF WHAT YOU THOUGHT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE IT BE? PART STRONGLY DIVERSIFIED OR, OR, YOU KNOW, MUST BE DEMONSTRATED. YEAH. DID YOU GUYS I WILL SAY MY POINT. MY [01:15:09] POINT WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION IS I THINK MULTIPLE MULTIPLE SOURCES SHOULD BE DEMONSTRATED. HOWEVER, WE DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR HIS GUIDANCE ON IT. AND. BUT I WOULD SAY WHAT I WAS LEANING TOWARDS WAS COMMON PRACTICES AMONGST OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. THEY ALL LEAN TOWARDS MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES THAT THIS NOT BE YOUR SOLE INCOME. WELL, I THINK WE JUST CHANGED THE WORD MUST TO SHOULD. THAT GIVES US LOTS OF FLEXIBILITY. MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES SHOULD BE DEMONSTRATED. AND THEN THAT ALIGNS WITH THE NEXT PAGE. AND THEN THAT GIVES US, AS MARION SAID, IF IT'S A SCHOOL AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SOURCE OR WHATEVER, I MEAN, CERTAINLY AS A AS A COMMISSION, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE, YOU KNOW, GOOD, GOOD JUDGMENT, USE EXERCISE, GOOD JUDGMENT ON THAT. I THINK, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT DOES THAT PREVENT IF THEY DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE IF IT'S LIKE A SINGULAR. SO WHEN. WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES, YOU'RE RELYING ON THE CITY TO CARRY YOUR VISION FORWARD. THIS IS YOUR VISION. THIS IS YOUR PROJECT. SO WE SHOULD COME ALONGSIDE YOU WITH BECAUSE THESE ARE TAX DOLLARS. THIS IS MONEY THAT IS RECEIVED FROM HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. AND WE HAVE TO BE DIVERSIFIED AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO SPREAD OUT AMONGST THE COMMUNITY AND OTHER APPLICANTS THAT MAY COME IN. SO IF IT JUST LOOKS FOR A STRONGER APPLICATION. AND IT ALSO SHOWS, I THINK I THINK IT SHOWS GENERAL INTEREST IN THE PROJECT MORE THAN IT'S JUST A SINGLE ONE OFF. THIS IS SOMETHING I WANT TO DO IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE, EVEN IF IT'S EVEN IF IT'S YOU HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO PULL IT IN, YOU KNOW, POOL RESOURCES, BUT YOU SHOW IN YOUR BUDGET. INCOME IS FROM ANOTHER SOURCE JUST IN THE ACT. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY YOU HAVE TO HAVE BANK OF AMERICA OR ANYBODY ELSE COMING IN. IT JUST SHOWS ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE, WHETHER IT'S YOUR PERSONAL FUNDS OR A BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, STATE FARM INSURANCE IS GOING TO UNDERWRITE PART OF THIS OR WHATEVER WHERE YOU SO LIKE LIKE COUNCILWOMAN GOODIN SAID, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT JUST THAT ONE THING. YEAH. AND TICKET SALES ARE LEGITIMATE. YEAH, YEAH, I WAS THINKING OF ELIMINATION, YOU KNOW, SO THAT YOU'RE SHOWING SOME OTHER INTEREST. YES. SO I GUESS LIKE IN TERMS OF LIKE SPECIFICITY, CAN WE JUST SAY LIKE PROVIDE AT LEAST TWO SOURCES OF INCOME BECAUSE THAT COULD BE SPECIFIC TO SPECIFIC. YEAH, I THINK I THINK THAT'S TRUE. I JUST WANT TO I THINK WE JUST WANT TO CHANGE MASTER SHOULD AND I THINK WE'RE GOOD. YES. ALEX I DIDN'T MISS ONE. AND IT JUST CAME TO MY MIND IS THERE WERE APPLICATIONS THAT SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A LOCATION. IF THEY GOT APPROVED, THEY WOULD FIND A LOCATION. I DID NOT THINK OF THAT WHEN I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING. ALSO, WOULD YOU LIKE SOMETHING FOR THAT? I HAD SUBMITTED LIKE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. JUST LIKE ON A WHIM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO SEE LIKE HOW THE PROCESS WOULD, WOULD GO ABOUT FOR A SPECIAL COMEDY SHOW HERE IN DUNCANVILLE. AND THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO MY ATTENTION. I THINK YOU MESSAGED ME WHERE LIKE, CAN YOU ADD THE LOCATION? LOCATION WOULD BE WOULD BE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, IF THE GRANT GOT APPROVED. AND THEN I COULD ACTUALLY LIKE, FIND OR USE THAT BUDGET TO FIND A LOCATION AND THEN IT KIND OF LIKE, NOT THAT IT'S SCARED ME OFF. JUST IT DEFERRED ME FROM CONTINUING. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SHOULD NECESSARILY HAVE A LOCATION AT THE TIME BECAUSE THEY HAVE 60 OR 90 DAYS. THEY MAY HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE THEY MIGHT WANT TO DO IT. I DON'T KNOW, IT'S UP TO THE. BECAUSE YOU HAVE EVENT DATE MUST BE THE PROJECT, EVENT DATE AND LOCATION. BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS APPLICABLE. SOMETIMES THAT'S NOT APPLICABLE, BUT. JUST SLIDE IT IN THERE. MAYBE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH HOT FUNDS IS PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE, AS ANGELA SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE USING CITY MONEY. IT'S IT'S NOT OUR MONEY, WHICH SO IF IT WERE ARTS COMMISSION MONEY AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RAISE MONEY SEPARATELY. BUT THE HOT GUIDELINES ARE SO SPECIFIC. AND I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS. SO WHEN IT SEEMS LIKE WE MIGHT BE BEING A BIT HARSH OR MEAN SPIRITED, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPLY [01:20:03] WITH ALL OF THE STATUTES AND THAT BASICALLY, I MEAN, THE TEXAS HOTEL AND LODGING ASSOCIATION TELLS US A LOT OF WHAT WE CAN DO AND HOW IT CAN BE ADMINISTERED. SO IT'S A I THINK WHEN WE GET TO OUR OWN MONEY, AT SOME POINT WE'LL HAVE SOME MONEY THAT MAYBE WE COULD MAKE THOSE RULES A LITTLE BIT MORE, LESS SEVERE. BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THE LAW TO THE EXTENT THAT WE UNDERSTAND IT. THE CITY ATTORNEY, YOU WEREN'T THE BENEFICIARY OF THAT, BUT THE CITY, THE ATTORNEY CAME WHEN WE FIRST WERE ASSIGNED THE USE OF THESE FUNDS AND WENT OVER A BUNCH OF STUFF ABOUT HOW WE COULD DO IT AND WHAT WE COULD DO AND HOW WE HAD TO FOLLOW THE RULES. SO I THINK, YEAH, THAT MAKES MORE SENSE NOW. IS THAT KIND OF LIKE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED ABOUT THE MUST, LIKE AT LEAST SUGGESTS A COUPLE DATES AND LOCATIONS BECAUSE THEY CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THEIR DATES. OH, OKAY. I WOULD THINK YOU COULD ALWAYS CHANGE YOUR DATE IF SOMETHING COMES UP AND YOU MIGHT SAY THE PLACE, THE PLACE YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT DOING LOCALITY, YOU WOULD JUST LET THEY WOULD JUST LET ALEX KNOW, OKAY? BECAUSE BY THE TIME WE GET THE INFORMATION OR THEY START DOING THEIR ADVERTISEMENT OR SO FORTH, THEN WE KNOW. YEAH, YEAH. THEN IT SEEMS SO AT THIS POINT, I'M TRYING TO CREATE A WORKFLOW FOR BEHIND THE SCENES FOR HOW THIS WORKS, AND I'M TRYING TO CREATE A SPREADSHEET. SO IF SOMEBODY SAYS IN THEIR APPLICATION, THEIR EVENT IS GOING TO BE ON THIS DATE, I'M PUTTING I'M PLUGGING THAT INTO THE SPREADSHEET, AND THEN I'M ADDING 45 DAYS TO THAT SO THAT I CAN SEE WHETHER I'VE RECEIVED A REPORT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THREE OF THE APPLICATIONS FROM THE FIRST ROUND THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH. TWO OF THEM HAVE SENT ME A REPORT, I HAVE A DATE FOR THE THIRD, AND THAT REPORT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME IN ON OCTOBER 21ST, AND SHE HASN'T TOLD ME THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ON A DIFFERENT DATE. SO AT THIS POINT, SHE'S INELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER GRANT BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T HAVE HER THIS A REPORT IN THE I THINK THE THING THAT I'M TRYING TO HELP WITH IS MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT CREATING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MONEY TO GO ONE DIRECTION, YOU NEVER SEE IT AGAIN. AND THE CITY HAS NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT. ANY SORT OF WAY TO TRACK WAS THE MONEY SPENT ON IT? WAS THERE A REPORT? DID IT HELP THE CITY? ALL OF THOSE THINGS? AND SOMEBODY JUST LIKE, I'VE GOT A REALLY GREAT APPLICATION HERE, HERE, HERE, IT GETS DEPOSITED AND YOU NEVER HEAR FROM THE PERSON AGAIN. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT YEAH, WE SHOULD HAVE HAS A LOCATION. I THINK YOU HAVE DISCUSSIONS WHERE PEOPLE WERE SAYING WHERE PEOPLE WERE. I THINK IT WAS CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAD YOU HAD BROUGHT UP. SOMEBODY HAD SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE IN THE SCHOOL, BUT THEY HADN'T RESERVED THE SCHOOL YET. AND I THINK YOU MIGHT SAY THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GETTING SOMEBODY SAID, THE THEATER, DON'T DO THAT. YEAH. AND WE WERE LIKE, NO, THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY. YEAH. SO WE LOOK AT THAT AS LIKE HONESTY. YEAH. INTEGRITY. WELL YEAH. YEAH I GUESS THAT DOES MAKE SENSE. THAT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE WERE ASKING ABOUT. WHY YOU REQUIRE MULTIPLE. IT'S LIKE BECAUSE IT CREATES A BETTER PLAN. YEAH. YEAH. WE JUST WE DON'T WANT TO BE WILLY NILLY JUST GIVING IT OUT, LIKE YOU SAID. AND AND THEN WE DON'T. AND THEN THEY JUST. YEAH. YEAH. AND THEY HAVEN'T FOLLOWED THROUGH LIKE THEY SHOULD. SO I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME VERBIAGE IN THERE ABOUT LOCATION. WELL, IN THAT SENSE, ALEX, ARE YOU SUGGESTING MAYBE ALSO INCLUDING LIKE IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES WITHIN THE PLAN, I GUESS, PLEASE NOTIFY THEM. PLEASE NOTIFY ME WITHIN X AMOUNT OF DAYS, OTHERWISE IT GETS VALIDATED. AND THE FUNDS ARE NO LONGER GIVEN TO WHATEVER. OR NO PROPOSED. WELL, THAT THAT THE CHALLENGES IS THAT THE SO DC, DC COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WOULD THEY DO A GRANT. THEY DO A REIMBURSEMENT GRANT. THE PERSON HAS ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY. THE ARTS COMMISSION WAS VERY SPECIFIC. ARTISTS DON'T HAVE THOSE KINDS OF FUNDS UP FRONT. SO THEY WERE ASKING FOR GRANTING THE MONEY UP FRONT. PRE-FUNDING WHATEVER THE ARTIST IS GOING TO DO. THE CHALLENGE IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PULL THE MONEY BACK ONCE IT'S GONE, ONCE IT'S OUT THE DOOR, IT'S UP TO THEM TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND MAKE THE COMMITMENT THAT THEY HAVE DONE. AND THE ONLY PENALTY THAT THE CITY AND THE ARTS THE CITY HAS IS THAT YOU DIDN'T REPORT. WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD THE EVENT, YOU APPLIED. AGAIN, YOU CAN'T GET FUNDED UNTIL WE GET THAT REPORT. WE KNOW THAT IT HAPPENED. BUT IF THEY DON'T REPORT AND THEY [01:25:02] DON'T DO THE EVENT, THE MONEY'S GONE AND THERE'S NOT REALLY A LOT OF RECOURSE IN WITHIN THE POLICY AT THIS POINT. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S LIKE ATTEMPTING TO GIVE EVERY POSSIBLE MEASURE AT THE FRONT TO BE ABLE TO JUDGE WHAT THE APPLICATION IS, IF IT'S A VALID APPLICATION, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PERSON HAS A TRACK RECORD, OR THEY'RE SAYING THAT THERE WAS A COUPLE INSTANCES, ONE PERSON SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE HAVE THEIR EVENT IN THE PARK. I WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT ANOTHER PERSON SAID THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THEIR EVENT OVER AT THE SENIOR CENTER. I CALLED, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A RESERVATION, AND I WOUND UP HAVING TO KIND OF TRACK IT DOWN TO GET THAT UNDER THEM AS A THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S JUST MEASURES FOR TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THE MONEY IS GOING TOWARDS SOMETHING. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. ANY OTHER. SO DO WE NEED A MOTION. DO WE NEED A MOTION. YEAH I IF I COULD ASK FOR THIS IF YOU MAYBE COULD ALL I WILL SEND THIS DRAFT TO YOU AND YOU CAN ALL MAKE SOME GIVE ME SOME FEEDBACK OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND I CAN BRING YOU BACK ANOTHER DOCUMENT THAT YOU CAN THEN REVIEW AND ADOPT, AND I WILL SEND IT TO YOU FAR ENOUGH IN ADVANCE THAT YOU CAN SIT WITH IT. YOU CAN GO THROUGH IT LINE BY LINE. YOU CAN PUNCH HOLES THROUGH IT. AND THEN I CAN BRING YOU BACK SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ALL LOOK AT AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL TO ADOPT. SO THIS IS NOT FOR THIS FUNDING CYCLE THAT THIS I, THIS IS FOR TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION SO I CAN KEEP GIVE YOU ANOTHER COPY. THAT'LL BE BUT NOT FOR THE PEOPLE APPLYING AT DECEMBER. NO. AT THIS POINT IT'S TOO LATE. WE THE PROCESS FOR GETTING THIS ADOPTED AGAIN IS GOING TO TAKE TOO LONG. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. IS THE WOULD THE COPY WHEN WOULD THE CITY ATTORNEY BE PART OF LOOKING AT THAT AFTER OR BEFORE? IDEALLY IT'S GOING TO BE YOU. YOU ALL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. I TAKE IT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I TAKE IT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. IF HE SEES SOMETHING MAJORLY WRONG WITH IT THAT IS SUCH THAT IT'S NOT EVEN ANYWHERE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT YOU'VE RECOMMENDED, I WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU JUST TO BE. JUST TO BE THE BE PROPER. BUT IF IT'S LIKE HE'LL DO THE MINOR TWEAKS AND THE THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT TIGHTEN UP WHAT YOUR INTENTION IS, AND IF I CAN DO THAT WITH HIM, THEN IT WOULD GO TO COUNCIL AFTER IT GETS VETTED BY HIM. SO BASICALLY ONCE IT GETS TO COUNCIL, WE WILL HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND IT'S READY FOR COUNCIL. YES. CORRECT. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YES. YES, MA'AM. SO I CAN SEND YOU THE FILE. YOU CAN ALL GIVE ME YOUR FEEDBACK. I CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. I WILL SEND YOU BACK ALL ANOTHER DRAFT COPY. IT WILL NOT BE. YOU WON'T BE MAKING A MOTION BY EMAIL. AND THEN I WILL BRING THAT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT YOU CAN ADOPT IT AT THAT POINT, IF YOU'D LIKE. OR YOU CAN RECOMMEND IT TO COUNCIL, AND THEN IT'LL GO TO THE NEXT TWO STEPS. COULD YOU INSERT PAGE NUMBERS? I WILL DO PAGE NUMBERS. YES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS WITH ARTS GRANT CAN WE MOVE FORWARD? OKAY. L'AFFAIRE YES. YOU HEARD US. L'AFFAIRE. [5.D. Ellafair ] L'AFFAIRE FOR OUR NEW BOARD MEMBERS WAS A EVENT THAT WAS PUT ON BY SOME INDIVIDUALS, CITY, COMMUNITY FOLKS AND OUR FORMER BOARD CHAIR OVER AT THE SENIOR CENTER, WHERE THEY SORT OF HAD LIKE A POP UP OF ARTS, DIFFERENT ARTISTS, SOME VISUAL ART, WOODWORKING AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEY HAD THIS FUNCTION TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION. NOT HOT FUND. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT HOT FUND. WE HAD SOME EXTRA MONEY TO DO SOME THINGS. SO THEY DID THIS AFFAIR THE FIRST TIME LAST YEAR, AND THEY RAISED, I BELIEVE, $400 FOR US. AND IT WAS SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN AGAIN THIS YEAR. BUT WE SORT OF WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE TRANSITIONING BETWEEN THE TWO BOARDS. WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. WELL, WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT WE DIDN'T. WE JUST WEREN'T THINKING ABOUT HOW IT WAS GOING TO WORK. AND SO IT SORT OF GOT PUT ON THE BACK BURNER AND PUSHED AWAY. SO IT'S ON THE AGENDA TO SEE IF THIS IS [01:30:02] SOMETHING THAT THE. BOARD WANTS TO DO AGAIN, AND WHICH IS L'AFFAIRE. HOW DID WE GET THE ARTIST? WERE THEY THESE WERE ALL WOMEN ARTISTS? NO, THERE WERE SOME MEN. THERE WERE SOME MEN THERE. IT WAS THE PERSON THAT REALLY SPEARHEADED IT WAS A YOUNG LADY NAMED GAIL. SLIGER. OKAY. AND SHE WAS THE ONE THAT GOT THE PEOPLE AND COORDINATED IT AND PUT IT TOGETHER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN SHE WAS, I GUESS SHE WAS GIVING IT OVER TO THE ARTS COMMISSION. I'M NOT REALLY SURE. SO HOW DID WE RAISE MONEY FOR PEOPLE? BY THE ARTWORK. PEOPLE BOUGHT THE ART AND THEY THAT THEY WERE SELLING, AND THEN THEY DONATED THE PROCEEDS TO THE ARTS COMMISSION. ALL THE PROCEEDS FROM THEY DONATED A PERCENTAGE, A PERCENTAGE. YEAH. OKAY. THESE WERE NOT THESE WERE NOT CHEAP ART. NO, THEY WERE NOT. THEY WEREN'T. OKAY. SO THEY DONATED A PERCENTAGE AND I DON'T KNOW, WE COULD CHECK WITH GAIL TO SEE WHAT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, AND SEE, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, GAIL SPEARHEADED IT BEFORE AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD DO THAT WITHOUT HER IF SHE WANTED TO DO IT AGAIN, BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY HER. IT'S HER. IT WAS HER SIGNATURE. YEAH, IT WAS HER SIGNATURE EVENT. BUT, RON, LIKE YOU SAID, RON, YOU KNOW, THE FORMER CHAIR HELPED AND SO FORTH, BUT. IT WAS MOSTLY, I'LL SAY HER. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. AND THIS DIDN'T THEY WANT MONEY FROM US? TO, TO DO IT. AND WE DIDN'T I DON'T KNOW, WE APPROVED IT. IT WAS IN THE GRANT BECAUSE I YES WE DID HAVE A GRANT. YEAH. BECAUSE I'VE SPOKE ABOUT IT AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR I'VE ASKED ME. YES THEY DID. SO WE GOT A, WE APPROPRIATED 3000 I THINK. ANGELA. IS THAT RIGHT? PROBABLY 3000. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S RIGHT. WE DID. IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR. YOU CAN'T SCREAM WITH ME. YEAH I DON'T SEE IT IN HERE BUT. YEAH. DO YOU REMEMBER. DID WE I DO REMEMBER US TALKED ABOUT TALKED ABOUT IT. BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT WITHIN THE GRANT WAS DID WE, DID WE REMEMBER. WAS IT. HE'S GOT HIS HAND UP DOWN THERE. WAS IT. IT IS THE 2020 FIVE MINUTES L'AFFAIRE. HE HE ORIGINALLY REQUESTED $4,950 ON THE APPLICATION. BUT THE THE REQUESTED AMOUNT WAS AMENDED DURING THE MEETING WHILE YOU ALL WERE TALKING AND YOU ALL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED TO FUND IT FOR $3,000. EXCUSE ME. SO DID THE GRANT APPLICATION INDICATE IT WAS A FUNDRAISER AGAIN FOR THE COMMISSION? IT WAS DESCRIBED AS A TWO DAY COMMUNITY ART EVENT LAUNCHED IN 2024 BY DUNCANVILLE RESIDENTS GAIL SLIGER AND SUE CLARK TO SUPPORT THE NEWLY FORMED DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION. THROUGH PUBLIC AWARENESS AND GRASSROOTS FUNDRAISING. AND DONATIONS. SO SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT YOU RECEIVED CAME FROM DONATIONS THAT WERE MADE AS THE PEOPLE WHO ENTERED IN, THEY MADE DONATIONS TO NOT JUST PURCHASE, NO, NOT JUST PURCHASE. AND THEY HAD JEWELRY AS WELL RIGHT? JEWELRY, DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY DIDN'T. THEY RAISED 500, I'M SORRY, $400. BUT BUT WE HAVEN'T NOTHING HAS BEEN DISBURSED TO THEM BECAUSE IT WAS US. RIGHT. HE TOLD ME THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO PROCEED. IT WASN'T GOING TO PROCEED. YEAH. OKAY. HE HAD TOLD HER THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO PROCEED. SO WHY IS IT ON THEIR AGENDA? YOU ASKED FOR IT. DID I? OKAY, ACTUALLY, YEAH. THESE THESE FOUR ITEMS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S MOVE ON. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT. NO WE'RE NOT. THEY DID NOT GET THE GRANT. THEY DID GET IT. BUT THEY DID GET THE GRANT. BUT THEY DIDN'T GET ANY MONEY BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO DO IT. WE THE ART COMMISSION WAS GOING TO TAKE WAS GOING TO DO IT, BUT WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH IT. OKAY, OKAY. I MISTAKENLY, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I'M JUST I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE NOT, THAT I DON'T WANT TO BE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT. HE BASICALLY WITHDREW. HE HAD RESERVED THE SPACE FOR [01:35:06] IT. HE PULLED IT BACK BECAUSE OF THE TRANSITION. IF YOU CHOOSE, YOU CAN STILL. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, WE CAN. SO HE. RON. THAT'S WHO YOU. YES. YOUR FORMER CHAIR. YES. YES. I NEVER HEARD IT, BUT I WILL I WILL SAY SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN NEGOTIATED OVER THE PAST COUPLE NOT NEGOTIATED. DEVIN IS GOING TO START COMING IN AS A CODE LIAISON, NOT DOING ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING THAT I AM, BUT SOLELY FOR OR NOT SOLELY INSPIRED BY THE FACT OF MAKING SURE THAT THINGS LIKE YOUR EVENTS CAN CONTINUE TO HAPPEN BY HAVING A EVENT PLANNER WORK ON THE CITY SIDE TO HELP WITH THAT. SO IT DOESN'T PARTICULARLY MEAN THAT THIS NEEDS TO STOP NOW. WE CAN DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO OR WANT TO DO, BUT ALSO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, LIKE WE WERE GOING TO GET THAT ADDITIONAL HELP WITH HER. OKAY. SO WE CAN TABLE THAT ONE AND IT CAN ALWAYS BE PUT BACK ON LATER. BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR MINUTES YOU CAN SEE A [5.E. Olden Year Museum ] LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT. OKAY. MOVING ON. ITEM NUMBER E I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS SHORT. AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING INVITED BY RON AND MR. ANDERSON TO OPEN YOUR MUSEUM. DID YOU ALL KNOW THAT THERE IS A MUSEUM HERE IN DUNCANVILLE? I DID NOT KNOW. MUSIC. MUSIC, I DID NOT. YEAH, IT IS. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL MUSEUM ON DUNCANVILLE ROAD. IT IS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW. IT WAS OPEN UP UNTIL OCTOBER. I MEAN, UNTIL COVID. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE MUSEUM. THE MUSEUM. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYWAYS, FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, SOME OF US ON THIS ON THE ART BOARD HAD BEEN ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT DUNCANVILLE NEEDS A A LANDMARK, SOMETHING THAT BRINGS TOURISM TO THIS AREA. AND WE'VE BEEN ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO GET A BUILDING, HAVING A MUSEUM, ART, WHATEVER, WHATEVER. AND THEN I GO ON THIS TOUR AND I SEE THIS WONDERFUL MUSEUM WITH ALL THIS WONDERFUL STUFF IN IT, AND IT'S CALLED THE OLDEN YEAR MUSEUM. THE FORD FAMILY HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE. HAS THIS MUSEUM THE GRANDFATHER STARTED IT. THE GRANDSON HAS BEEN TRYING TO KEEP IT GOING, BUT THEY HAVE GROWN WEARY AND DID NOT FEEL THAT THEY HAD SUPPORT FROM THE CITY. ON WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, GET RID OF IT, WHATEVER. THEY'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING. BUT ANYWAYS, THEY TOOK US ON A TOUR OF IT. AND THE CLOSEST THAT YOU WILL EVER GET TO SEEING SOME OF THE STUFF IN THAT MUSEUM IS IN GERMANY. THE NEXT CLOSEST MUSEUM IS IN GERMANY. HOW CAN WE HAVE A MUSEUM RIGHT HERE IN DUNCANVILLE? AND WE DON'T EVEN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. SO THE WHAT I JUST WANTED TO DO IS MAKE YOU ALL AWARE. IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE, IF WE WANTED TO DO A TOUR. SOME IDEAS, MAYBE A BUSINESS MIXER THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I MEAN, CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW IT I MEAN, I LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES LIKE FREDERICKSBURG AND AUSTIN AND DALLAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN THEY ADVERTISE AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COME TO VISIT THE OLDEN MUSEUM IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE OPEN AND PEOPLE NEED TO BE VISITING. IT WOULD BE AN ATTRACTION, I THINK, TO DUNCANVILLE. IT'S WONDERFUL. I'VE NEVER SEEN MUSIC ON PAPER AND PLAYS AND AND I DIDN'T KNOW ALBUMS WERE FIRST STEEL. I'D NEVER SEEN A STEEL ALBUM. IT WAS JUST IT WAS AMAZING. IT WAS. IT WAS ENGINEERING, TECHNOLOGY, MUSICAL, ALL THAT. AND IT'S JUST LIKE A HIDDEN GEM RIGHT HERE. OUR FORMER COMMISSIONER AND PERRY HAD BEEN TRYING TO GET US OVER THERE. WE JUST IT WAS NOT HAPPENING. I'M GLAD I HAD A CHANCE TO GO. THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING AND MAYBE WE CAN CHANGE THEIR MIND. I DID FORWARD YOU THE INFORMATION. WE CAN REACH OUT, BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANT TO SEE IT, IF YOU HAVEN'T, YOU ALL [01:40:04] HAVE SEEN IT. BUT YOU ALL HAVEN'T. I JUST THINK THAT AS ARTS COMMISSION, WE MIGHT WANT TO TAKE ON THE CONSIDERING TRYING TO KEEP THE MUSEUM HERE AND PROMOTING IT OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S ART, IT IS IT'S IT'S AMAZING TO SEE IT. IS IT LOCATED DUNCANVILLE ROAD? DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE 84 LUMBER COMPANY IS? YES. FORD LUMBER, IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT. OH, REALLY? YEAH. SO HAVE THEY GIVEN ANY IDEA HOW MUCH MONEY IT WOULD TAKE TO RUN IT? I MEAN, IT CAN'T BE CHEAP. THEY'VE BEEN RUNNING IT OUT OF THEIR OWN, PAYING FOR IT OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKETS FOR SINCE THEY'VE HAD THE THING. BUT THEY HAVE VERY ABBREVIATED OPENINGS. WELL, THAT HAPPENED AFTER COVID, BUT THEY WERE. THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE PAYING FOR EVERYTHING OUT OF THEIR THEIR POCKET AND PAYING FOR STAFF AND KEEPING IT. IT TAKES A LOT TO, TO MAINTAIN THOSE THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE AND THEY'RE ANTIQUES. AND BECAUSE I WAS, YOU KNOW, I SHARED WITH COUNCILMAN GOODMAN, I SAID, OH, THEY TALKED ABOUT MOVING OR SELLING THOSE PIECES. I'D BE HORRIFIED AT THE COST IT WOULD TAKE TO MOVE THAT. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. IT'S LIKE, OH MY GOSH, ARE THEY A501C3? THEY HAVE A NONPROFIT. OKAY. BUT THE THE. THE ART EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THERE, THE MUSEUM ARTIFACTS, EVERYTHING BELONGS STILL IS BELONGS TO THE FAMILY. BUT THEY DO HAVE A 500 1C3 NONPROFIT STATUS. SO DO THEY HAVE THE BOARD THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE WITH THAT? GIRL? I DON'T KNOW. I HAD TO ASK WHAT TO ASK. REALLY IMPORTANT THING. YEAH, I COULD ASK. I THINK THEY DO, BUT PROBABLY EVERYBODY'S FAMILY IS IN IT. YEAH. IT'S JUST IT'S PROBABLY JUST FAMILY. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST MET THEM. I DO NOT KNOW THEM AS WELL. YOU MIGHT. I TAUGHT COLIN TO FORD AND THE FORD FAMILY AND THEY'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. AND THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE GRANDFATHER AND THE GREAT UNCLE OF MY STUDENT OR WHATEVER. AND THAT WAS HIS PASSION. IT WAS HIS PASSION, ALL OF THAT, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS, THE PHONOGRAPHS AND THE CALLIOPES AND THE I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S AN AMAZING MUSEUM. I CAN'T EVEN FATHOM THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS INVESTED IN THAT, NOR COULD I FATHOM WHAT IT WOULD COST TO MAINTAIN IT AND UPKEEP IT. BUT IT IS A GEM. IT IS, AND IT IS. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT I WOULD HATE TO SEE LEAVE DUNCANVILLE. IT'S IT'S IT'S REALLY, REALLY. UNLESS YOU GO SEE IT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN OR HELP YOU ENVISION HOW WONDERFUL IT IS, BECAUSE I WAS KIND OF LIKE, YEAH, WHATEVER. AND THEN WE WENT TO SEE IT. THEY HAD AN OPEN HOUSE WHEN THEY VERY FIRST OPENED. WHEN THEY FIRST OPENED, THEY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE RIBBON CUTTING. AND I WAS THERE, MY PICTURES THERE WITH THE FRONT, WE WERE ALL THERE. FORMER MAYOR GREEN WAS THERE. WE HAD A LOT. I MEAN, IT WAS HUGE. THERE WERE A LOT OF LOT OF PEOPLE WE WERE ALL ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH AND THEY MADE EVERYTHING WORK AND THEY MADE EVERYTHING PLAY. AND I THINK IT'S JUST BEEN A STRUGGLE BECAUSE IT IS EXPENSIVE AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE HOURS AND I DON'T PART OF IT WAS THEY DIDN'T REALLY WANT IT OPEN TO THE WORLD. KIND OF LIKE THE SMITHSONIAN DON'T TOUCH, YOU KNOW? AND SO TRYING TO HAVE STAFF THERE TO MAINTAIN IT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPEN MUSEUM. SO IT WAS KIND OF CLOSE, COST PROHIBITIVE. YEAH. SO, SO I BUT I AGREE VERY MUCH WITH OUR CHAIR HERE THAT IF THERE WAS ANY, EVEN IF IT'S AN ENDORSEMENT OR IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE A SEPARATE I KNOW THERE'S HISTORICAL HOT FUNDS THAT ARE SEPARATE FROM ARTS COMMISSION HOT FUNDS. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE OUT THERE. I THINK ANOTHER 1%, THE SAME 1% THAT CAN GO TO THE ARTS, CAN GO TO HISTORICAL MUSEUMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WITHIN THE CITY. THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE ARTS. BUT ANYTHING THAT ARTS COMMISSION COULD DO, WHETHER IT'S JUST LENDING OUR MORAL SUPPORT OR I'M I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT. IT IT'S IT IS WONDERFUL. AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEM NEEDS TO KNOW AND VILLAGE TECH, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIDS ARE AMAZING. THEY COULD DO STUFF FOR THEM FOR FREE, ALL THAT STUFF. AND AND IT'S NOT JUST MUSIC. IT IS THE ENGINEERING THAT WAS DONE IN THE EARLY YEARS THERE. IT IS AMAZING. IT'S JUST A WELL KEPT SECRET. IT IS WHAT I CALL IT. AND IT'S A IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO ENTICE PEOPLE. I KNOW THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. THEY'RE REALLY NOT THEY'RE THEY'RE ALMOST LIKE, WE DON'T WANT YOU BECAUSE YOU MIGHT TOUCH IT AND IT MIGHT BREAK AND YOU KNOW, BUT BUT THAT GOES TO THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY THEY DON'T HAVE STAFF TO HELP TAKE CARE OF THINGS. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT ANYTHING THAT I THINK THAT WE COULD DO TO HELP IF POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP IT HERE, TALK TO THEIR BOARD, SEE WHAT IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN ALSO GET WAS THAT IN THE PREVIOUS. NO THAT WAS. NO, [01:45:06] THAT WAS NOT. YEAH. JUST IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GET IT TO HER? I CAN ASK HER BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO SET SOMETHING UP. SO WE'LL SET SOMETHING UP. AND IF WE CAN NOT ONLY. YES, I MEAN, BUT LIKE ANY OTHER COMMISSION THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT OR CITY COUNCIL. BUT I REACHED OUT. I MEAN, I CAME BACK AND GOT ON THE PHONE AND CALLED OUR LIAISON. I WAS LIKE, I CAN'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A MUSEUM, A GREAT MUSEUM HERE, AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT. YEAH. IT'S AWESOME. IT'S AWESOME. IT REALLY IS. IT WOULD ATTRACT A LOT OF TOURISM AND UTILIZING HOT FUNDS. I MEAN, ANYBODY, IF THEY STAYED AT A HOTEL, THE FIRST THING I WOULD TELL THEM IS, OH, THAT MUSEUM WAS OPEN. BE SURE TO VISIT THE DUNCANVILLE. NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT TOO. THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME FLIERS. YEAH, YEAH. WAS IT FIRST OPEN IN 2018? NO, IT WAS LONG BEFORE THEN. MAY. NO, IT MAY HAVE BEEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S NOT BEEN THAT LONG. OH, REALLY? OKAY. I FOUND IT BECAUSE HE SAID THAT. THAT IT WAS WHEN COVID HAPPENED THAT THEY THINGS CHANGED A LOT. BUT THAT WAS 2020. YEAH. BECAUSE THEY DID THEY HAD THE LIGHT CRUST DOUGHBOYS FOR THEIR GRAND OPENING. SO THAT WAS IT. YEAH. YEAH THAT WAS IT. BUT IT'S A WONDERFUL. YEAH IT'S IT'S IT'S IT'S COOL. IT'S I AGREE WITH YOU. SO IT'S SOMETHING I JUST WANT TO PUT ON, ON MY HEART. I JUST WANT TO SHARE IT WITH YOU ALL AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME, LIKE, GET ANOTHER TOUR OR SOMETHING AND LOOK AT WAYS TO HELP VERY ENTHUSIASTICALLY. AND WE'RE LIKE, WELL, AND THEN YOU'RE LIKE, OH, BUT IT'S CLOSED. YEAH, IT'S CLOSED MOST OF THE TIME. IT'S CLOSED. MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE NOT OPEN. RIGHT NOW. YOU HAVE TO CALL AND MAKE ARRANGEMENTS, BUT THEY THEY WERE VERY RECEPTIVE WHEN THEY DID THE TOURS AND THEY WERE VERY RECEPTIVE ON SOME IDEAS. WITH MAYBE THEM NOT HAVING TO SELL. MAYBE THEY'LL BE ON LOAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR MAYBE THE CITY CAN LEASE THE PROPERTY AND KEEP IT GOING OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE TO JUST LOOK AT, BUT IT'S A IT'S A GOLD MINE. IT'S A GOLD MINE. OKAY. SO MOVING ON. AND IF YOU IF YOU RESEARCH AND YOU COME UP WITH BECAUSE I'M GOING TO LOOK UP THIS HISTORICAL ARTS FUND THING, OKAY, I PROBABLY HAVE INFORMATION. YEAH OKAY. THAT'S A HOT FUN STUFF. OKAY, OKAY. WE [6.A. Midnight Murals ] HAVE ITEM NUMBER SIX NON ACTION ITEMS ALEX. MIDNIGHT MURALS. MIDNIGHT MURALS WAS SOMETHING THAT THAT THE CONVERSATION STARTED ABOUT THIS I GUESS ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO WITH YOUR FORMER CHAIR AND THE. COMMUNITY, THE PUBLIC RELATIONS OFFICER OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND THE IDEA WAS BORN FROM CURTIS FERGUSON. AND A PROJECT ABOUT TAKING POSSIBLY AT RISK YOUTH AND DOING MURALS AFTER DARK. MAY HAVE STARTED THAT AT THE WRONG END. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I HAVE A MEETING WITH CHIEF STOGNER ON WEDNESDAY. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS TO HIM, THAT THE BASIC CONCEPT OF IT GET HIS INPUT FIRST, START PACKAGING IT UP TO BRING BACK FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE. AS FAR AS CODE, AS FAR AS POLICE, BECAUSE POLICE WOULD HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN IT. THERE ARE SOME CODE ISSUES, NOT ISSUES. THERE ARE SOME CODE ITEMS INVOLVED IN THIS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO ADDRESS ALL OF THAT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, STREET CLOSURES AND PERMITS ARE A PART OF THIS, WHICH IS SECTION 17 AND THREE SIX 1766 WHICH REQUIRES APPROVAL THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS, PERMITTED HOURS FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO A MURAL WOULD BE CONSIDERED CONSTRUCTION AND PERMITTED HOURS ARE 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. AND RIGHT OFF THE BAT, THE NAME DOESN'T REALLY WORK WITH THAT. AND THEN THE MURALS AND SIGNAGE, WHICH WE'VE DONE SOME YOU HAVE ALL DONE SOME WORK WITH THAT PART OF THE ORDINANCE. BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS BECAUSE THIS IS TIED TO A YOUTH PROGRAM, AT RISK YOUTH DOING ALL OF THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME BUILDINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT THEY WOULD RAISE THEIR HAND AND BE A PART OF THIS, BUT IT'S THAT AFTER DARK THING. IT'S THAT CONSTRUCTION. IT'S POSSIBLY THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH THE TOP OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN WORK THROUGH SOME THINGS, BRING YOU BACK EVERYTHING THAT I LEARNED SO THAT YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROGRESS, PROCEED FROM THAT. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. YEAH. AND IS KATELYNN'S MURAL STILL ONGOING TOO? IS THIS GOING BEFORE COUNCIL TOMORROW? OKAY, OKAY, I'LL BE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND LAST IS ARTS AND [6.B. Arts & Business Mixers ] BUSINESS MIXER. I KNOW THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WANTED TO TAKE UP THE BUSINESS MIXERS [01:50:10] THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST, AND THEY WANTED TO AND THEY FUNDED IT IN THE BEGINNING. AND THEN LATER ON, WE CITY COUNCIL GAVE US MONEY TO DO IT. AND IT'S BEEN GOING WELL. AND NOW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE LEAD ON, ON THE BUSINESS MIXERS AND SOME OF THE BUSINESS THINGS. OF COURSE WE COULD MAKE RECOMMENDATION, BUT HOWEVER THEY WANT TO STILL PARTNERSHIP WITH US AND WANT US TO DO THE ARTS COMPONENTS TO WHETHER IT'S COMEDIANS, WHICH WE'VE HAD BEFORE, MUSICIANS, ARTISTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT WHATEVER THEY HAVE AT THEIR BUSINESS, MIXERS LIKE WHAT WE DID, WE WOULD DO THE, THE ARTIST PART OF ASPECT OF IT, BUT THAT ALSO WILL MEAN THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO PUT IN A GRANT REQUEST SO THAT WHEN IT HAPPENS, WE HAVE SOME MONEY SET ASIDE TO. TO GET AN ARTIST TO COME IN AND DO WHATEVER IT IS THEY WANT. SO WE'LL NEED TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. OKAY. DO THEY HAVE DATES SET? DO THEY KNOW WHEN THEY'RE DONE? NOT YET. WELL YOU KNOW DEVIN WE'LL HAVE DEVIN FOR THAT. AND THERE WAS I HAD A PASSING CONVERSATION AS THINGS HAPPENED. THIS TODAY WAS MARLON WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS WALKING THIS WAY AND I WAS WALKING THAT WAY. AND HE SAID, MAYBE WE SHOULD START WITH A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THE TWO BOARDS, BETWEEN THE ARTS COMMISSION AND DC EDC, TO TALK ABOUT THE ARTS AND BUSINESS MIXTURES AND TAKING THAT FORWARD. SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH THEM TAKING THE LEAD, BUT IT IS A TRUE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO BOARDS, BECAUSE THE ONLY PERSON THAT I'VE REALLY TALKED TO RIGHT NOW, AND I HAVEN'T BEEN TO ANY OF THE MEETINGS, I WAS GOING TO GO TO ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS. BUT PATRICK HARVEY, CHAIR. SURE. YEAH. HE HAD HE HAD APPROACHED ME ABOUT SOME OF THAT. SO NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING JUST YET, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY STILL WANT THAT THE ARTS ASPECT OF IT. WOULD YOU ALL BE OPEN TO A JOINT MEETING IF THAT COULD BE ARRANGED? YES, YES. DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE OF LATE? I MIGHT NOT WANT TO DO IT IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER. OR MAYBE YOU DO. OKAY. THOSE. SO WHAT I CAN TRY TO DO IS I CAN, I CAN WORK WITH THEM AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME DATES MAYBE IN JANUARY. SO THAT DOESN'T THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH LOST TIME OKAY. AND. AND THEN IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR GRANT REQUESTS, YOU KNOW THAT OUT THERE SO THAT WE CAN GET ON THE SCHEDULE. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER UNFINISHED BUSINESS HEARING? NONE. ALL LINES CLEAR. MEETING * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.