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[00:00:01]

IT'S 630. I'M CALLING THE TUESDAY, AUGUST 26TH MEETING OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF

[1. Call to Order]

THE COMMISSION TO ORDER.

MR. STAFF LIAISON. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

CORRECT? NONE. ITEM THREE THE ARTS COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING MINUTES.

[3. The Arts Commission to consider the following Minutes]

THERE ARE THREE DATES FOR JUNE 24TH, 2025.

REGULAR MEETING JULY 16TH, 2025.

SPECIAL MEETING JUNE 28TH, 2025.

SPECIAL MEETING. HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? YES.

YES. ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? YES. ON THE JUNE 24TH SARAH ARRIVED AT THE BEGINNING.

IT'S BLANK AS FAR AS THE TIME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW. OH, SARAH, PUT SOMETHING IN.

SO DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT TIME YOU SHOWED UP AT? 605 6:31 P.M..

BUT IT WAS JUST LIKE LIKE SO.

OKAY, SO THERE'S NO TIME STAMP.

OH, AND EVEN I WAS LATE.

I'M SHOCKED. I WAS JUST PULLING IN.

DRAGGING IN. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE, LIKE A MOTION WITH IT REQUESTING THAT I PUT THAT TIME IN, I WAS I WAS TRYING TO GET ALL THESE DONE IN ADVANCE, AND I HAD TO GO BACK AND FIND HER.

AND I DIDN'T FIND YOU.

THAT'S OKAY. IS THERE ANY OF THE LEAVING EMPLOYEE I HAVE? ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? I LIKE HOW THE POETRY IS INCLUDED.

ABSOLUTELY I DO ABSOLUTELY FOR HISTORY.

MOTION TO APPROVE. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES FOR JUNE 24TH, 2025, JULY 16TH, 2025 AND JULY 28TH, 2025 AS RECORDED SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ANY MORE YOUR QUESTIONS.

COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

LOOKS LIKE IT'S UNANIMOUS.

ITEM FOUR COMMISSIONER'S REPORTS.

[4. Commissioners Reports (limit to 2 minutes each) ]

I'M GOING TO START TO MY RIGHT.

MR. HARRIS I ATTENDED THE BULL IN A CHINA SHOP AT THE COMMUNITY THEATER, AND IT WAS WONDERFUL.

ENJOYED IT IMMENSELY. IT'S JUST GOOD ALL AROUND.

I'VE BEEN ENJOYING SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN GOING TO.

I DID ATTEND TWO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

ONE REALLY AS PART OF ANOTHER GROUP.

AND THEN. AND THEN I WENT TO THE ONE WHERE GROUP APPROVED.

AND I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL ONE OF THE GROUPS THAT I'M WITH, PINK DIAMONDS. WE'VE GOT AN EVENT AND WE, WE GAVE THEM A GRANT THAT THEY GOT APPROVED, AND THEY'VE GOT AN EVENT COMING UP.

THEY ASKED IF A CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR, IF SOMEBODY COULD COME AND AND BRING GREETINGS. THAT MORNING OF THEIR EVENT.

THAT WAS SEPTEMBER. SEPTEMBER 6TH.

SIXTH. 9:00. JUST NEED TO KNOW OR CONFIRMATION IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO IF ONE OF YOU ALL ARE GOING 9 A.M., SEPTEMBER 6TH 9 A.M..

WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IS THAT? SATURDAY. DO YOU WANT TO GIVE? DO YOU WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY? NO, I'M GOING TO BE IN A DIFFERENT MODE, IN A DIFFERENT POSITION.

OKAY. AT THE MEETING I WANTED TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU ALL.

WE THE LADIES BOUGHT THEIR SHIRTS AND WE'RE DOING T SHIRTS, WHICH ARE THE SAME THING, AND THEY WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BACK.

AND SO I HAD SUGGESTED SOMETHING TO THEM, AND THEY WERE LIKE, OKAY, BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO PROMOTE THIS CULTURAL DISTRICT.

SO ON THE BACK. YES. OH MY GOD, I CAN'T SEE THAT.

LET ME SEE IT. IT SAYS IN THE WAY IT SAYS DANCE EXPERIENCE FOR OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT.

DUNCANVILLE, TEXAS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ELSE ON THERE.

AND I'M LIKE, CAN WE JUST SORT OF PROMOTE THE BEAUTIFUL? IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SHIRT. IT IS BEAUTIFUL. ARE YOU SELLING THEM? THEY'RE SELLING THEM AT THE PARK I THINK FROM TINDER.

WHO DID IS OKAY SO ON AND SO SO EVERYBODY, IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE, PLEASE COME OUT. AND ALSO FOR SOME OF THE FUTURE THINGS WE WERE DOING, YOU KNOW, AMY HAS ALL OF OUR LITTLE EASELS.

THESE ARE BUT I WENT AHEAD AND BOUGHT ABOUT A HUNDRED OF SOMETHING OF THESE.

SO WHEN THE SCHOOL HAS, LIKE, ONE OF THOSE LITTLE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE NECESSARILY GOING TO PAINT OR ANYTHING, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE WOOD THAT WHEN WE WERE DOING IT, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT WAS REALLY CUMBERSOME AND THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

OKAY. AND SO THAT'S IT.

THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. AND I'M AVAILABLE SEPTEMBER 6TH.

OKAY. SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE THERE. AND WHAT KIND OF WELL I MEAN WHAT KIND OF WELCOME.

WE'RE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE CONCLUSION OF ARTS.

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YEAH. YEAH OKAY. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY. DOCTOR PERRY. WELL, I ALSO WENT TO THE PLAY TIM AND WITH A FRIEND, AND IT WAS WONDERFUL.

AND THEN IN LITTLE ROCK, WE WENT TO THE THE LARGE ART MUSEUM, AND THEY HAD AN EXHIBIT ON CONSERVATION AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. I TOOK PICTURES, AND THEN WE WENT TO THE SEVENTH STREET MURALS IN LITTLE ROCK, AND IT'S LIKE 2 OR 3 BLOCK AREA WITH A RAILROAD BRIDGE.

AND IT'S ALL ABOUT SOCIAL JUSTICE, RACE, UNITY, PEACE. BUT THE LOVE, IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE WHERE ARTISTS HAVE WORKED.

AND THEN I STARTED TWO NEW CLASSES IN HUMANITIES AND ART APPRECIATION THAT ARE ONLINE THROUGH MOUNTAIN VIEW.

AND I SHOWED SOME PICTURES TO THE STUDENTS TO SHOW HOW ART CAN BE ANYWHERE AND CAN ENCOMPASS A VARIETY OF STYLES.

THAT'S WONDERFUL. YOU NEVER.

YOU NEVER GET BORED. YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BORED ONCE SINCE I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD.

I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU WERE SEVEN, BUT FROM THERE, YOU JUST DECIDED NEVER TO BE BORED.

YES. COMMUNITY THEATER CLOSED.

VERY WELL ATTENDED. REALLY SOLD OUT.

NEARLY EVERY PERFORMANCE, WHICH IT'S IT'S CONTINUING TO HAPPEN.

SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE REALLY YOU KNOW, NOT THAT.

I MEAN, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A LOT OF MOMENTUM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE BEEN GAINING EVEN MORE MOMENTUM AMONG THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS GOOD.

MORE DIVERSE AUDIENCES FROM ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE.

YOUNG, YOU KNOW, AND AGE, DIFFERENT AGES.

AND THAT'S A LOT OF FUN.

SO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED REHEARSALS ON OUR NEXT PLAY, WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS WRITTEN AND DIRECTED BY OUR BOARD MEMBER, JERRY AYERS, WHO IS A PUBLISHED PLAYWRIGHT.

HE HAS PLACED AT OUR PERFORMED A ONE ACT PLAY STATE ALL THE TIME.

HE'S A STATE JUDGE. BUT THIS IS THE WORLD PREMIERE OF THE FULL LENGTH VERSION OF THE DEMONS OF FLEET STREET.

AND WHICH MEANS THAT FROM THIS POINT ON, ONCE IT'S PUBLISHED, IT WILL ALWAYS SAY IN THE FRONT OF IT, PREMIERE PERFORMANCE AT KNOXVILLE COMMUNITY THEATER. OH, THAT'S GOOD.

CONGRATULATIONS. THAT THAT WILL RUN ON THE LAST WEEKEND OF SEPTEMBER AND THE 1ST OF OCTOBER. AND IT SHOULD BE A GOOD SHOW. AND I DON'T KNOW IF MY COMMENTS ARE THE PLACE TO DO THIS, BUT LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THE MURAL THAT THE CHAMBER IS DOING, AND I HAD MENTIONED THAT, I WASN'T SURE, I THOUGHT IT WAS A WRAP. AND IT'S NOT A WRAP. STEPHANIE PEREZ IS ACTUALLY GOING TO PAINT IT.

SO IT'LL BE OUR PAINTING ON THE SIDE OF THE CHAMBER BUILDING INSTEAD OF THE WRAP.

OKAY, THANKS. YEAH. OKAY.

I WILL ACTUALLY TELL MYSELF THIS TIME.

OKAY. THE SKIPPING SEEING SQUARE IS PRESENTING A DALLAS WEEK OF KINDNESS.

IT STARTS NOVEMBER 9TH THROUGH THE 15TH.

ALL KINDS OF ACTIVITIES DURING THE WEEK, MANY OF THEM WITH DALLAS.

THEY'VE ORDERED A MILLION STICKERS FOR THE KIDS, AND THAT MEANS EVERY CHILD WILL GET ONE EVERY DAY.

AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE MAYBE 200,000 LEFTOVER FOR FRONTIER DISTRICTS.

WHY IS CONCERNED? DUNCANVILLE? WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A DAY ON THE SATURDAY THE 15TH OF PERFORMANCES FROM 10:00 TO 6:00.

YOU PASSED OUT AT FOR FOUR HOURS.

NOW WE'RE AT EIGHT. LOTS OF PEOPLE FROM DALLAS ISD, WHICH IS GREAT. HOWEVER WE CAN HAVE ANYBODY AND I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PERFORM, FOR EXAMPLE, DUNCANVILLE WILL HAVE ACQUIRED THERE. I TALKED TO LINDA JOHNSON, AND SHE'S DOING A CHOIR AND SHE'S GOING TO BRING SHE'S ALREADY GOT PERMISSION FROM THE FINE ARTS DIRECTOR. SO THAT'S ONE PART.

THE SECOND PART IS I'M GOING TO NEED A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS.

I'VE GOT. AND WE'LL HAVE A BETTER SITE SET UP A LITTLE BIT MORE TO FRUITION.

BUT I NEED SPECIFIC PEOPLE LIKE STAGE MANAGERS AND MCS.

AND IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO WOULD BE GOOD AT THAT AND WHO MAY HAVE DONE IT AND NOT JUST SAY, OH, I THINK I'D LIKE TO EMCEE FOR 5000 PEOPLE OR WHATEVER, THEN I'D LOVE TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.

SO IT'S AN EXCITING THING.

IT'S A FIRST INTERNATIONAL KIND OF STATE IS THAT WEEK.

DAVID BROOKS IS COMING TO SPEAK AT THAT.

AND I HOPE I CAN HELP AND SUPPORT, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MARIANNE.

TARA. MINE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PSA.

FIRST, I AM SAD TO KNOW THIS IS OUR SECOND TO LAST MEETING.

STOP. STOP. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.

WELL WELL, AFTER SEPTEMBER, I WON'T BE ABLE TO VOLUNTEER WITH THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION ANYWAY BECAUSE I'LL BE MOVING TO CEDAR HILL.

I AM CLOSING ON MY FIRST HOUSE ON SEPTEMBER 29TH, SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

IT'LL BE RIGHT AFTER OF OUR HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH CELEBRATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS. THAT'S AMAZING.

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THAT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU GO.

THANK YOU. SIR. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE REALLY ANYTHING TO REPORT, BUT I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS, AMY.

I THINK THAT'S OUTSTANDING. I HAVE GREAT THINGS. AND I THINK, LIKE, IT'S HARD TO BE A SMALL BUSINESS, BUT YOU HAVE JUST RAN FOR OVER 30 YEARS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND YOU REALLY BECOME A STAPLE IN THE ARTS BEFORE THE ARTS BECAME THE ARTS.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO IN YOUR YOUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S NEEDED.

AND WE YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE WANTS TO BUILD UP TO AN IV OR SOMETHING THAT'S EXPENSIVE, BUT IT ALSO RELEASES EVERY EMOTION, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK JUST A BIG KUDOS TO YOU WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO.

AND I CAN DEFINITELY VOLUNTEER AND I CAN GIVE YOU SOME ALSO SOME MUSICIANS AND STUFF.

SO TALK SEPARATELY ABOUT THAT.

BUT I'LL DEFINITELY VOLUNTEER WITH THAT. AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR FIRST HOUSE. THANK YOU. AND I MISSED HIM.

SO DO YOU TELL HIM THAT ON CAMERA? YEAH. SHE'S PARKING SPOT.

YOU'RE THE PERFECT SPOT FOR YOU BACK.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? I, MY WIFE AND I ALSO WENT TO PLAY, AND WE BROUGHT OUR IN-LAWS, MY IN-LAWS, HER PARENTS.

MY POEM TONIGHT IS REALLY GEARED TOWARDS THE HEALING NATURE OF ART.

I MEAN, THAT'S A A MUSIC THERAPIST.

AND I HAVE ANOTHER FRIEND THAT'S AN ART THERAPIST.

AND SO THIS IS KIND OF IN RELATION TO THAT.

IT'S CALLED HOPE RESIDE.

DOES SOLACE TAKE OR GIVE ANEW FOR SOLEMN STATE TO SMILE REVIEWED.

WHAT A SONG, WHAT SONG REFRAIN OR LILTING VERSE WILL TURN THE TIDE OR LIFT THE SOUL AND HOPE RESIDE. DOES JOY'S DELIGHT RETAIN ITS PATH ALONG THE BRUSH ON CANVAS STROKE? WHAT SIMPLE PUSH AND PULL ACROSS WILL SET THE HEART AND HOPE RESIDE? HOLD ON. MY FAR LESS POETIC.

THIS WEEK I MET WITH DOCTOR JONES AND MR. STEELE FROM PLANNING. AND ALEX WAS THERE.

THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT HOW ARTS PROGRAMING AND ARTS PLANNING FITS WITH DUNCANVILLE 2040. SO I DID A DEEP DIVE, AND I TALKED ABOUT ALL THE WAYS THAT I COULD SEE THAT THESE ARE GOING TO GO DIRECTION.

AND I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT ARTS COMMISSION BEGAN TO BREAK OUT THIS.

YEAH. WE AFTER AFTER THE GRANTS PROGRAM, WE ARE OFFICIALLY WE ARE OFFICIALLY A A ARTS COMMISSION. MUNICIPAL ARTS COMMISSION. I WOULD MEASURE OUR WORK AGAINST ANY COMMISSION BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT ALL NOW. AND SO TO THAT END THEY AGREED THAT ARTS NEEDS TO BE PART OF A MORE COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION.

WE'RE MEETING AGAIN ON SEPTEMBER 10TH.

IF ANYONE HERE WOULD LIKE TO COME, IT'S GOING TO BE OVER THERE.

I DON'T HAVE A TIME YET.

I'LL PROBABLY DO SOMEWHERE, BUT I CAN SEND OUT A MESSAGE ON IT.

AND THE CONVERSATION WOULD BE YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT CULTURAL DISTRICT PLANNING.

WE TALKED ABOUT CULTURAL PLAN.

WE TALKED ABOUT HOW GRANTS WORK.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW PUBLIC ARTS POLICIES WORK.

SO ALL OF THIS HAS TO FIT TO PLANNING AND ZONING, AND ALL OF THIS HAS TO BE ALIGNED WITH DUNCANVILLE 2040.

SO IT DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS IS SET ON A TRAJECTORY.

SO SEPTEMBER 10TH, SEND ME AN EMAIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME.

AND AGAIN, IT'D BE LESS THAN A QUORUM.

ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE THE ARTS CALENDAR.

[5. Arts Calendar]

WELL I CLICKED ON THE CALENDAR AND SAID WE KNOW THAT ONE IS COMING UP IN SEPTEMBER 25TH.

WE HAVE THE JAZZ EVENT, WHICH IS SO EXCITING AT SHEILA.

HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE IT? AND THEN ON THE 30TH, THERE'S AN INTERNATIONAL DINNER. I THINK I SENT THE EMAIL TO YOU GUYS TODAY CELEBRATING SPAIN, THE CULTURE OF SPAIN AT THE CHURCH ON.

BIG STONE GAP. BIG STONE GAP.

YES. AND THEN I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE CONCERT ON THE SIXTH, BUT ON THE 13TH WE HAVE MILLION MILES.

OUR FILM NIGHT. AND THEN THE HISPANIC HERITAGE EVENTS COMING UP.

SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE THIS OCTOBER IS TEXAS MUSIC MONTH AND HUMANITIES MONTH, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FROM HERE AND THERE AND VOTE FOR THAT FOR THE NEW NATIONAL ARTS AND MANAGEMENT. REMEMBER, WE WERE THERE.

SO MAYBE SOMEBODY WILL DO SOMETHING NOW.

ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS ON ON ARTS CALENDAR.

THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.

[6.a. Mural Ordinance ]

ITEM SIX IS GOING TO BE KIND OF MEATY POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE ORDINANCE.

OKAY. SO BACK IN DECEMBER 19TH, 2023 WE TOOK.

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SECOND, A 60, A SECTION 16 A THROUGH 39 MURALS TO CITY COUNCIL WITH THE INTENTION OF ALTERING THE TEXT AND CHANGING THE BOARD OR COMMISSION THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING MURALS. SO THIS HAS ALREADY GONE TO DEDUCTIBLE.

BEAUTIFUL. THEY MET LAST MONTH AT A SPECIAL MEETING.

THIS WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THEY ALREADY APPROVED TO CITY COUNCIL, AND NOW IT'S COMING TO YOU TO ALSO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL.

AND IT IS BASICALLY CHANGING OF THAT ORDINANCE CHANGING SECTION B, NO PERSON SHALL APPLY, INSTALL OR RESTORE A MURAL AS DEFINED HERE AND ABOVE WITHOUT HAVING WITHOUT FIRST HAVING A VALID SIGN PERMIT ISSUED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS CHAPTER. THE BUILDING OFFICIAL SHALL, PRIOR TO ISSUING A PERMIT, OBTAIN A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOARD OR ITS SUCCESSOR.

WE'LL BE CHANGING THAT TO THE ARTS COMMISSION AND C THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT, AREA, NUMBER AND DURATION REQUIREMENTS APPLICABLE TO OTHER TYPES OF SIGNS SHALL NOT APPLY TO MURALS. THE DESIGN LOCATION OF A MURAL MUST BE APPROVED BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AFTER A RECOMMENDATION BY THE KEEPING OF A BEAUTIFUL BOARD OR ITS SUCCESSOR PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT.

THE PERMIT SHALL WILL NOT BE ISSUED UNTIL 30 DAYS AFTER FINAL APPROVAL BY THE KEEP DOGVILLE BEAUTIFUL BOARD, SO THE CITY COUNCIL MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND INTERVENE IN THE ISSUANCE OF ANY PERMIT.

SO THAT WOULD ALSO BE CHANGING THOSE TWO TO THE ARTS COMMISSION, SINCE YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE NOW MOST LIKELY TO BE GIVING GRANTS FOR MURALS, DOING CALLS FOR MURALS.

THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THOSE MURALS COME BACK TO YOU TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON.

SO ALL WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS FOR YOU TO VOTE TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO CITY SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT HE JUST DESCRIBED.

ANY COMMENTS? QUESTIONS.

OKAY. SO THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MOVE THAT. WE ACCEPT THE.

CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN.

IS THERE A SECOND SECOND? IT'S A THREE WAY TIE. I THINK I SAW SARAH'S HAND FIRST.

OH I SEE. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT THIS CHANGE IN SECTION 16.

839 MURALS ARE THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.

ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

SO NOW I TAKE THIS TO CITY COUNCIL TO BRIEF THEM ON IT, AND THEN THEY WILL TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.

I HAVE A QUESTION. SO WILL THAT GO TO CITY COUNCIL? AND THE FIRST IN SEPTEMBER AT THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER IT'LL GO.

I'M GOING TO WORK TO TAKE IT TO THEIR SECOND MEETING.

ITEM B, THIS IS THIS IS VERY PREMATURE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ARTS

[6.b. Public Art Policy ]

COMMISSION HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUCKED INTO THIS AND ONE MORE MEETING IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT ONE. DUNCANVILLE CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC ART POLICY, SO WE'RE REVIEWING GRANT APPLICATIONS BASED SOLELY ON CONTENT AND THE FUNDING POLICY.

AND RIGHT NOW THE FUNDING POLICY IS SEEDED BY POT FUNDS.

SO IT'S ALL AROUND POT.

BUT MOST MUNICIPALITIES HAVE A POLICY THAT REGULATES GUIDES THE WAY THAT THE CITY LOOKS AT PUBLIC ART. PUBLIC ART IS ANY ART AND ALL THE WAYS THAT WE FIND IN OUR POLICY THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC PURVIEW. AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE THIS THIS I'VE ASKED ALEX TO, TO, TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA SO I CAN FILL OUT THIS SO I CAN SEND YOU A MEMO.

THIS IS FOR YOU TO TAKE HOME.

THIS IS FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT.

IT'S ETCHED AT THE BACK. OKAY. SO IS EVERYBODY. HAS IT.

SO OSTENSIBLY, THIS WAS BASED.

THIS IS ME. THIS WAS ME READING OUR POLICY.

THIS IS ME READING THE DUNCANVILLE 2040.

AND THIS IS ME READING THE RESOLUTION FOR THE CULTURAL DISTRICT.

AND THIS IS ME READING THE CULTURAL DISTRICT STRATEGIC PLAN.

BUT THE CITY MANAGER PRESENTED JUNE.

IT'S NOT BEEN ADOPTED AS PRESENTED, AND THIS WAS THE BASIS OF MY CONVERSATION TO APPROACH THE PLANNING AND ZONING.

MY CONCERN IS THAT ARTS COMMISSION SHOULD NOT WORK IN A SILO.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ARTS COMMISSION IS POSITIONED FOR SUCCESS.

SO WHAT THIS DOES, IT'S ROBUST.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT TONIGHT OR TAKE IT HOME AND LOOK AT IT. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO REVIEW IT AND START PUTTING YOUR COMMENTS THE SAME WAY THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT EVERY POLICY THAT WE'VE EVER APPROACHED IS LOOK AT IT TAKE APART, MAKE SOME COMMENTS, REDLINE IT. I CAN SEND YOU THE ORIGINAL DOC AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL GOOGLE DOC

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IF YOU WANT TO. BUT OSTENSIBLY THIS IS USING WHAT A LOT OF MORE MATURE MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALITIES USE TO ADDRESS THE WAY THAT THEY FUND AND APPROACH PUBLIC ART.

FOR INSTANCE, DOCTOR PERRY IS AND MR. PERRY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AN ADVOCATE THAT WE PUT SOME, SOME, SOME THINGS IN LINE THAT ALLOW US TO ELEVATE THE CREATIVE CONTENT.

THERE'S NOTHING IN ANY POLICY THAT PREVENTS US FROM DOING ANYTHING OR ENCOURAGES ANYTHING. SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK FORWARD ON THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

CITY COUNCIL HAS CHARGED ARTS COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE DO IS SOME SORT OF CONNECTION TO DUNCANVILLE 2040.

SO WHAT I'VE DONE IN THIS DOCUMENT, AS YOU GO THROUGH IT, IT'S VERY NARRATIVE. IT'S A VERY NARRATIVE DOCUMENT.

IT'S MEANT FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT, THINK ABOUT, AND I'VE INCLUDED HOW I SEE IT ALIGNS WITH DUNCANVILLE 2040 AND I THINK THAT IT ADDRESSES AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER IN THE MEETING, ADDRESSES SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE BRIDGES THAT LEAVES THE GAPS THAT WE SEE THAT WE NEED TO BRIDGE, AND THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR AND THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD THIS COMMISSION TALK ABOUT, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PUT A BIG MURAL OF A FUNNY LOOKING PIG SOMEWHERE ON MAIN STREET? WELL, YOU KNOW, IS IT COMPLIANT WITH HOT? BECAUSE REALLY, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. AND AND SO, YOU KNOW, SOME STRATEGIES AND SOME STRATEGIES HERE THAT THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO.

I'M MOST FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS OFFICE OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS, IT'S NO LONGER CALLED THAT.

SO THAT'S HOW OLD I AM.

HOW YOU WAYS THAT WE APPROACH THIS.

SO LET ME TELL YOU THIS. AND I'M GOING TO KEEP BRAGGING ABOUT THIS ARTS COMMISSION BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THE SAME WORK AT THE SAME QUALITY.

THEY JUST HAVE MORE MONEY, I'M TELLING YOU.

SO WHAT I ASK YOU TO DO, TAKE THIS THINK ABOUT WHAT IS NOT GOING TO BE FOR US. BUT LIKE EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, WE WANT TO SET THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION UP.

WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO RAMP UP TO, BUT WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO OFFER PEOPLE.

SO I OFFER THIS AS JUST A SOURCE OF EDUCATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS CONVERSATION.

WE NEED I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT. I WOULD I THINK THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT I'M LEADING A FRAMEWORK THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BUILD OFF OF AND JUST LIKE US WHEN WE WERE NEW TO THIS.

RIGHT? BUT I LOVE THE WAY THAT WE'VE ALL BROUGHT OUR KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS TOGETHER TO MAKE A STRONGER ENTITY OF WHAT THE ARTS COMMISSION IS.

SO I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD NOT ONLY ENTERTAIN, BUT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME AND HAVE SOME FINAL COMMENTS.

I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE THAT, TIFFANY.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I REALLY INTENDED FOR US TO DISCUSS.

IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.

AND REALLY IT'S MEANT TO SET THE STAGE FOR THE NEXT MONTH.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON? IS THIS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK? WELL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT SHOULD.

WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUT IT ON THERE. OR CAN YOU JUST PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING? WE MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.

IT WAS THAT EASY. ALL RIGHT.

SO I DON'T THINK SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2025.

[6.c. September 23, 2025, Regular Meeting]

WHO KNOWS WHAT'S SPECIAL ABOUT TODAY? ANYBODY? ANYBODY? LAST MEETING.

IT IS THE VERY LAST MEETING FOR THIS BODY.

THE WAY THAT IT LOOKS RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS THE ONLY BODY IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE THAT EXISTS NOW THAT STARTED SOMETHING NEW IN OUR RECENTLY.

MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHERS. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I AM SO PROUD OF THIS COMMISSION, AND I KNOW. SO WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT OUR LAST MEETING IS GOING TO BE LIKE TOGETHER.

DO WE WANT A CELEBRATION? DO WE HAVE SOME BUSINESS? IS THERE GOING TO BE CHAMPAGNE? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. VEGAS. VEGAS? VEGAS. WE'LL SEE THE ART.

VEGAS. WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU? THERE'S ONE THING ON THE AGENDA. I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY HAVE SOME TREATS.

I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE FUN.

BUSINESS AND FUN. AND I THINK IT'LL BE COOL TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT OF A SPEECH FROM EVERYBODY. LIKE WHAT THEY LOVED ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER.

AND I THINK WE'LL ALL LIKE, YOU KNOW, RECOLLECT SOME MEMORIES OF MAYBE WE'RE NOT REMEMBERING AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE DID SO MUCH.

I LOOK BACK AT PICTURES, I'M LIKE, WOW, WE DID A LOT.

WE DID EVERYTHING. YEAH, WE DID EVERYTHING. WE DID EVERYTHING. IT'LL BE NICE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF HEAR IT AGAIN IF YOU'RE WANTING TO. I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD TO DO.

LIKE SOME REFLECTIONS? YES. I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO DO IT SOMEPLACE OUTSIDE OF A MEETING THIS WHOLE OR, LIKE, LIKE WE COULD ACTUALLY GO SOMEWHERE LIKE AND DO AN ACTUAL MEETING.

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LIKE, THAT WOULD BE REALLY NICE, LIKE, ACTUALLY SERVE FOOD AND STUFF.

BECAUSE AFTER NOW, I STILL EAT TOO MANY OF US.

AFTER DECEMBER 23RD. WOULD WE COULD WE, IF WE GOT TOGETHER, WE COULD ALWAYS DO SOMETHING AFTERWARDS. OH, YEAH, BECAUSE I'D SAY WE CAN ALL GO CELEBRATE AFTER SOMEPLACE.

YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE WE MIGHT GO TO, AND ALEX COULD PERFORM FOR US.

FINALLY, FINALLY, HE OWES US THAT.

SOMETHING WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT DOING IS OFFERING WORDS OF WISDOM TO THE NEXT ARTIST.

NOBODY WAS THERE TO HELP US AND RECORD SOME RECORD, SOME CONTENTS THERE. OH, YEAH.

GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO PICK UP ON.

WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO SOME WORK.

YEAH. WE DON'T KNOW WHO WILL BE YET WHEN THEY DECIDE.

OH, THEY'RE DOING THE INTERVIEWS RIGHT NOW.

SO WE HAVE NO IDEA. NO.

JUST AS FABULOUS AS US.

I MEAN. IT'S LIKE THE ONE ALSO SINCERELY THING THAT THAT WE HAD THREE YEARS TO GET UP TO THIS POINT. AND FOR THOSE WHO WERE THERE FOR THE FIRST YEAR, IT WASN'T. EVERYBODY WAS THERE FOR THE FIRST YEAR THAT THE CITY WAS GOING THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGES AND WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND NOBODY TOLD US WHAT TO DO. AND WE PUNTED TURNS. AND WHAT REALLY GOT US STARTED, I THINK, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS, IS CITY WAS HOSTING JUNETEENTH.

AND TIFFANY SAID, HEY, I HAVE AN IDEA.

AND THAT WAS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO SOMETHING TOGETHER.

AND WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LIKE. WE DIDN'T KNOW EACH OTHER. AND THAT SET THE STAGE. AND SO THIS COMMISSION I'M, I TALK ABOUT THIS A LOT.

SO WE HAD TO DO ALL THE FORWARD FACING, PUBLIC FACING THINGS BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO DO.

THERE WASN'T ANY FUNDING. SO WE'RE PUTTING MONEY IN OUR OWN POCKETS AND OUR OWN TIME AND OUR OWN ENERGY TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. AND THEN THINGS STARTED TO CATCH ON AND PEOPLE STARTED CALLING THIS ARTS COMMISSION. HEY, CAN YOU SHOW UP? CAN YOU DO THIS? CAN YOU DO THIS? CAN YOU DO THIS? WELL, EVERYBODY ALWAYS FOUND AN OPPORTUNITY TO STEP UP.

AND THEN WE REALLY STARTED TO LEAN IN WHEN THEY SAID, HEY, WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR POLICIES? WE STARTED DOING THE HARD STUFF. AND NOW WITH THE WITH THE FINALIZING THIS GRANT PROGRAM AFTER THREE Y'ALL, THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN. SO WHAT I WOULD HOPE IS THAT THIS NEXT ARTS COMMISSION, WE GET THEM UP TO SPEED AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

AND ALEX, ONE TIME I SAID, WELL, SO WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL WHEN A COMMISSION CHANGES? HE GOES THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANOTHER COMMISSION.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO SO THINK ABOUT THIS, GUYS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY IDEAS TONIGHT, SOMETIME BEFORE SEPTEMBER, IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT, MEANINGFUL, SOMETHING THAT'LL MAKE ME WEEPY, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THE NEXT ONE.

WE GET WE GET ONE CHANCE TO DO THIS.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION. SO MAC AND MARIANNE AND MYSELF CAME IN.

I WAS LOOKING IT UP TODAY TO SEE WHEN WE CAME IN.

SO WE WEREN'T HERE. YOU GUYS AREN'T ROLLING OFF, SO WE'RE NOT ROLLING OFF, RIGHT? SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN HELP A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT CONTINUITY AS WELL.

YES. BECAUSE WE'LL BE AROUND.

I HAD TO LOOK BACK TODAY TO SEE WHEN THE KIND OF OCTOBER OF THE FOLKS WHO GO OFF ARE MAC, AND YOU AND MARIANNE AND SARA WERE OPPOSED TO THIS.

SHE HAD A GREAT LIFE. YEAH.

YOU'RE MAKING BOSS MOVES. SHE'S GOT A HOUSE IN CEDAR HILL.

SO NOW HOUSE PARTY? YES, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

RIGHT. YES, I AM YESTERDAY.

ANY OTHER. ANY OTHER CONVERSATION ON SEPTEMBER 23RD? 2025 REGULAR MEETING. JUST KNOW THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I ENJOYED BEING ON THE ARTS COMMISSION, AND WE SHARED YOUR STORY WITH ME THE OTHER WEEK ABOUT YOUR INTRODUCTION WHEN WE FIRST CAME TOGETHER AROUND, OH, YOU ALL WEREN'T HERE, BUT WHEN WE FIRST CAME TOGETHER AND KIM AND TIM WERE BOTH WANTING TO BE THE CHAIR, REMEMBER THAT. AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE GIVING THEIR LITTLE SPEECH. AND SO RON DID NAKED AND I AND IT'S SOMETHING WE, YOU KNOW, WE WE WEREN'T REALLY SURE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW EACH OTHER. AND I SAID, WELL, IF HE DOESN'T DO A GOOD JOB, WE CAN ALWAYS FILL THEM OFF. AND HE SAID THAT THAT REMAINED WITH HIM THE WHOLE THREE YEARS.

IS THAT WHY HE WORKED SO HARD? THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN STUCK IN MY HEAD.

SHE WAS. SO GUESS WHAT? I KEPT A GOOD JOB. AND SHE WAS VERY SHE WAS VERY CLEAR THAT SHE WAS OFF.

ON IT, ON IT. SO HE SHARED THAT STORY WITH ME.

I SAID, CAN I JUST SAY, YEAH, WELL, AND A LITTLE BIT OF TRIVIA IF YOU'VE NOTICED. I THINK I CAN ONLY THINK OF TWO MEETINGS ANGELA'S ALWAYS SENT TO THIS SIDE OF HIM BECAUSE HE IS A BETTER PARLIAMENTARIAN THAN I AM.

AND I LEAN OVER AND I SAY, ANGELA, DON'T VOTE ME OFF.

WHY DO I DO? SO THERE'S AN EMAIL.

WE CAN SAVE A LOT OF THESE STORIES FOR, FOR FOR NEXT MONTH. READY TO MOVE ON. ALL RIGHT. SO ITEM SEVEN IS EVENT DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE.

[7.a. Midnight Murals ]

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SO I'M GOING TO QUEUE THIS ONE UP.

IF YOU RECALL THE LAST, DAY OF OUR RECENT JUNETEENTH, I HOSTED A PANEL DISCUSSION.

THE TOPIC OF THE DISCUSSION WHAT IS DUNCANVILLE MEAN TO AN ARTIST? AND WE HAD THE WE INVITED FOLKS WHO HAD PARTICIPATED IN THIS RECENT JUNETEENTH AND PAST JUNETEENTH TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT IT.

AND SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY RESONATED WITH ME WAS THE FACT THAT THE ARTISTS WHO WERE THERE WERE FIGURING OUT WAYS THEMSELVES AND HOW THEY CAN IMPACT THE COMMUNITY. I KEPT THINKING THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE ROLE OF THE ARTS COMMISSION, TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE ARTS IS GOING TO FIT INTO ALL THESE COMMUNITIES, BUT NO.

EVERY SINGLE AT THAT PANEL WAS LIKE, THIS IS HOW WE CAN BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS HOW WE THINK ABOUT ONE OF THE ATTENDEES HERE IS A FRIEND OF THE ARTS COMMISSION MR. CURTIS FERGUSON, WHO WAS THERE, AND HE STARTED TELLING THIS STORY. I'LL LET HIM TELL THE STORY. BUT WHAT RESONATED WITH ME IS IT WAS IT CREATED A NEW DYNAMIC FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION.

AND I ASKED, I SAID, SO, DO THE ARTS HAVE A ROLE IN PUBLIC SAFETY? AND EVERYBODY KIND OF.

AND THERE WAS, THERE WAS, THERE WAS A ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

I'M GOING TO LET HIM TALK ABOUT A STORY. BUT LEADING UP TO IT, I ASKED FERGUSON, WHAT DO YOU NEED? HE SAID, I NEED SIX WALLS AND SOME MONEY.

SO I FOUND HIM SIX WALLS.

AND I OFTEN WHAT I DO BEFORE I BRING SOMETHING TO THE ARTS COMMISSION, PARTICULARLY IF IT'S NEW, WHICH IS EVERYTHING. I REACHED OUT TO CITY STAFF BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO BE CITY STAFF WHO ARE GOING TO DO THE HEAVY LIFTING FOR US. SO I REACHED OUT TO OFFICER ARIAS, AND ALEX FERGUSON WAS THERE AND MACK WAS THERE.

AND SO THE CONVERSATION WAS HE'LL TALK ABOUT THE STORY.

AND I SAID, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD FIND VALUE IN AND COULD THEY SUPPORT IT? SHE WAS ALL OVER.

SO WITH THAT, THIS IS A THIS IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION AND A BRIEFING FROM MR. FERGUSON. HE'S NOT HERE TO PITCH.

BUT I WANT YOU I WANT, I WANT YOU FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T THERE TO BE REMINDED OF WHAT MR. FERGUSON HAD DISCUSSED.

I KNOW TO SEE HOW THE BIG PICTURE OF HOW WHAT HE CAN DO CAN FIT INTO THE NEW MURAL POLICY, CAN FIT INTO 2040 AND CAN BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.

MR. FERGUSON, WOULD YOU LIKE THE FLOOR? YEAH. JUST BRIEFLY. I'LL COME OVER HERE.

ACTUALLY CAN GET YOU OVER HERE.

I CREATED A PROGRAM CALLED MIDNIGHT MURALS.

AND THIS YEAR, WE HAD NEW JERSEY COME TO DUNCANVILLE ISD.

AND ONE YOUNG MAN WAS PUT AS A MENTEE TO ME, AND HE CAME TO ME AND SAID, WELL, MR. FERGUSON, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A FAMILY.

I HAVE CHURCH ON SUNDAYS.

THEY WANT ME TO MENTOR SEVENTH GRADERS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THE CHURCH THING AND THE MENTEE THING, A MENTOR THING AND DA DA DA DA DA.

AND I EXPLAINED TO HIM FOR ME, MY MENTORING PROGRAM THAT I HAVE AT AT BIRD MINISTRY, GOING TEACHING IS A CALLING.

EVERYBODY DON'T DO IT THE SAME WAY.

BUT YOU HAVE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN YOUR HEART FOR CHILDREN BECAUSE YOU'LL FIND OUT CHILDREN REQUIRE 24 OVER SEVEN MOTHERS.

Y'ALL KNOW IT'S 24 OVER SEVEN.

AND EVEN AS AN EDUCATOR, IT'S 24 OVER SEVEN.

AND THIS PAST YEAR FROM MY MENTORING PROGRAM, I HAD A PHONE CALL AT ON MARCH 25TH, I HAD A PHONE CALL AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING. AND THERE WAS SOME OF MY MEN TEASE TELLING ME THAT DAMIAN HAD BEEN SHOT.

DAMIAN HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF MY STUDENTS, AND THEY INITIALLY TOLD ME HE WAS KILLED, BUT HE WASN'T KILLED. HE DID GET SHOT THREE TIMES AND IT WAS EARLY IN THE MORNING.

SO WE WE RESOLVED RESOLVE THAT.

AND THEN ON JUNE 19TH, IRONICALLY, I GOT ANOTHER CALL THAT ANOTHER STUDENT. I'M NOT THE LAST NAME INTENTIONALLY.

KEVIN WAS ANOTHER STUDENT THAT WAS SHOT.

ONCE AGAIN, 2 OR 3:00 IN THE MORNING ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO WHEN I STARTED TEACHING IN A PLACE CALLED TEXARKANA, TEXAS.

I HAD A MENTORING PROGRAM CALLED THE POSSE.

PEOPLE ORGANIZED, THE STUDENTS ARE EXPOSED AND EXCEL.

AND THAT WAS THE ACRONYM.

AND I STARTED MIDNIGHT KICKBALL.

THIS WAS ABOUT 1990, 1990 SOMETHING.

I'LL DO THE MATH. ON THAT THIRD YEAR THING, I SAID AND KIDS WERE UP ALL TIMES A NIGHT.

THE REASON WHY I STARTED IT IN TEXARKANA, THERE WAS A ROUGH AREA CALLED 15TH STREET APARTMENTS. IT WAS ANOTHER AREA CALLED ROSE HILL,

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AND IT WAS JUST DANGEROUS.

IT WAS SO BY PINE STREET BEING KIND OF IN A, IN A CENTRALIZED LOCATION I WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH THE POLICE AND THEY HELPED POLICE IT, BUT I HAD MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL FROM ABOUT 10:00 IN THE EVENING, ESPECIALLY ON FRIDAY.

SOMETIMES WE WENT INTO SUNDAY MORNING.

WE COULD START OVER AGAIN ON, ON SATURDAY NIGHT, AND WE'D HAVE SOMETIMES AS MANY AS 50 STUDENTS SHOOTING BALL.

PARENTS KNEW WHERE THEY WERE UNTIL 3:00 AND WE WARM UP.

SO BY THE TIME THEY WENT HOME, THEY WERE EXHAUSTED. IT WASN'T ABOUT GOING TO FIGHT SOMEONE. IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD PIZZA, WE HAD EVERYTHING. AND I RECEIVED A LOT OF CORRESPONDENCE FROM PARENTS WHO FELT LIKE IT SAVED THEIR CHILD'S LIFE. SO WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT WITH MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL AND TALKING TO RON WAS, I'D LOVE TO DO THE SAME THING HERE, BECAUSE WHEN THESE YOUNG MEN WERE SHOT, SHOT, YOU KNOW, ONE FIGHTING, IT'S ONE THING SHOT.

IF WE HAD EXTERIOR WALLS THAT WE COULD PAINT, SET UP LIGHTING. HAVE, YOU KNOW, COPS OR WHATEVER FOOD.

AND WE COULD PAINT ALL NIGHT? I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE THE LITTLE KIDS OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT THE GUARDIANS, BUT THAT'LL BE UP TO THEM. BUT AT LEAST THE TEENAGER ONES WHO, YOU KNOW, PARENTAL PARENTAL PERMISSION, PAINTING MURALS AT NIGHT.

AND WE WOULD DO IT ON, OF COURSE, FRIDAY NIGHTS.

AND SOMETIMES GOING TO SUNDAY OR SATURDAY NIGHTS, LIKE I SAID THE TIME I TRY TO SPEND WITH THE YOUTH, TO ME, CORRELATES INTO A CALLING.

AND THEN DURING THE BREAKS, WE'D REALLY DO IT BECAUSE SOME KIDS DON'T GO ANYWHERE. THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING, AND THEY'RE JUST KIND OF LOST WITHOUT SCHOOL. AND THIS WOULD BE AN IDEAL OPPORTUNITY TO BRING ATTENTION TO IT.

RECENTLY ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, ME AND ABOUT FOUR STUDENTS PAINTED ANOTHER MURAL AT FOX NEWS. SEAN RAB CAME OUT AND COVERED IT.

A LITTLE GIRL NAMED AMY.

I MEAN, A LADY NAMED AMY AND HER HUSBAND, MARK.

THEIR DAUGHTER DIED FROM FENTANYL POISONING.

SO WE DID A MURAL IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE ON A STONE.

KIDS DO IT. AND SEAN COVERED IT FROM FOX NEWS.

AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS MY CLAIM TO FAME IS I TAUGHT A 13 YEAR OLD GIRL TO PAINT, AND BY THE TIME SHE WAS 18, WE MADE $1 MILLION.

SO OPRAH SENT FOR US AND ALL THIS FUN STUFF.

SO I SENT THE VIDEO AROUND TO PEOPLE ON THE EAST COAST TO THE NORTH, AND THEY WERE LIKE, WELL, WHERE'S DUNCANVILLE? WHERE'S DUNCANVILLE? AND I WAS SHOWING THEM BECAUSE THEY KNOW DALLAS.

BUT DUNCANVILLE WAS KIND OF NEW, BUT I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD IT WOULD BE GREAT EXPOSURE ARTS PROGRAM.

I'M HERE. I'M SAYING OUR OUR ARTS PROGRAM AND I LOVE THE ARTS, AND I LOVE WHAT, WHAT WHAT IT DOES TO YOUTH AND THE DIFFERENCE IT MAKES IN TERMS OF CRITICAL THINKING. AS AN EDUCATOR, I KNOW A LOT OF KIDS, INCLUDING MYSELF, WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, ART GOT ME THROUGH THE TESTING OR GOT ME THROUGH MATH OR GOT THROUGH SCIENCE. BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO A MURAL, THERE'S A LOT OF MEASUREMENT, A LOT OF PROPORTION YOU HAVE TO GET RIGHT.

IT'S A LOT OF MATH, A LOT OF CRITICAL THINKING, AND I JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO EDUCATE.

IT'S A GRAND WAY TO KEEP CHILDREN SAFE.

AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU CURTIS I APPRECIATE THAT.

ONE OF THE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I WANTED TO HAVE CURTIS HERE TO TELL THAT STORY IS BECAUSE, FIRST OF ALL, IS THAT ARGENTINA THAT THIS THAT THIS IDEA ORIGINATED. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ANYONE IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY SEES THAT ARTS COMMISSION IS ALWAYS WATCHING. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO SUPPORT. THE OTHER PART ABOUT THIS IS SAN ANTONIO.

THEY HAVE CREATED A, A MURAL, A MURAL SERIES THAT TELLS DIFFERENT STORIES OF SAN ANTONIO PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE.

AND THERE IS A GOOGLE MAP WHERE PEOPLE CAN FOLLOW IT AND THERE'S VIDEOS ATTACHED TO IT, AND THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO CREATE SOME VISITOR INFINITE A LOT OF TOUCH POINTS ON IT.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS MR. FERGUSON WAS, WAS TELLING US IS THESE MURALS THAT THE ARTS GET, FIRST OF ALL, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THE KIDS ARE THERE INSTEAD OF SOMEWHERE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS TO.

THEY'RE CREATING A POINT OF PRIDE.

AND FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE DONATING THE WALLS, IT'S SOMETHING MORE SIGNIFICANT TO HAVING A PROFESSIONAL MURALIST COME IN.

AND MR. FERGUSON HAD TALKED ABOUT HAVING GUEST PROFESSIONAL MURALISTS. AND SO THE KIDS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. BUT ALSO, YOU CAN IMAGINE IF IT STARTS WITH SIX WALLS.

AND SO IT GOES TO 18. LET'S SUPPOSE 24 LOTS OF WALLS HERE.

BUT EACH ONE TELLS A DIFFERENT NARRATIVE, A DIFFERENT STORY OF DUNCAN.

ALL THOSE THINGS ARE MAPPED. THOSE THINGS HAVE VIDEOS, THOSE THINGS HAVE QR CODES, THOSE THINGS HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA. AND EVERY SINGLE TIME WE DO THIS, WE CAN GET RECOGNITION FOR FOR THE CITY.

WE CAN INVITE DIFFERENT GUEST MURALS IN.

WE'RE MAKING SOME IMPORTANT PUBLIC SAFETY ADDRESS.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO BE THERE. AND AND I THINK IT'S A VERY UNIQUE WAY TO EXPLORE. EVERYBODY WANTS A MURAL.

SO HERE'S A WONDERFUL WAY.

I'VE TALKED TO IT. IT TOOK ME NO TIME TO FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO DONATE A WALL.

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NO, NONE. IT TOOK ME AN AFTERNOON OF PHONE CALLS, AND I HAD SIX BLOCKS. SO I WANTED HIM TO COME AND TALK TO US BECAUSE I WANTED THIS TO BE ON THE RECORD AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE NEXT COMMISSION.

I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO KIND OF TO SEE THE WAY THAT THIS COMMISSION WORKS. SO I WANTED TO FINISH THAT LAST LITTLE BIT OF IT. MR. FERGUSON, I APPRECIATE YOU APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE. IT'S MY PLEASURE. I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO DO.

ANYBODY WANT TO TALK TO MR. FERGUSON ABOUT THIS? ABOUT THIS PROJECT? I THINK THAT'S I THINK IT'S ALWAYS GOOD FOR US TO OPERATE.

LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, OUTSIDE OF THE SILO.

RIGHT? IN ART. ART? I THINK IT'S THERAPEUTIC.

I THINK IT'S HEALING ANYTIME THAT IT CAN.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES KIDS GET INVOLVED IN THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T BECAUSE THEY HAD TOO MUCH TIME ON THEIR HANDS. RIGHT. THERE'S SO MANY PARENTS THAT WORK.

THIRD SHIFT. THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER REASONS THAT IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE JUST BAD KIDS OR MAKE BAD DECISIONS. THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT AS YOU KNOW, HAVE BOUNDARIES AS MUCH IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD ETC..

RIGHT. SO I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SAY IS, IS THAT A AS IT TAKES US INCREASES OUR FOOTPRINT BECAUSE NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH LOCAL ARTISTS.

AND NOW WE ARE TRYING TO TURN AROUND AND TELL A STORY.

RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT STORY IS IMPORTANT WHERE WE LOOK AT PEOPLE TRAVELING TO OUR CITY OR BEING ABLE TO BE INSPIRED TO COME AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING SOMEBODY CAN GO TO AND LOOK AT THESE MURALS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT I THINK IT'S A REALLY CREATIVE WAY TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FOR THE FOR THE, YOU KNOW YOUNG, YOUNGER GENERATION AND ALSO INCREASE OUR FOOTPRINT.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

MY PLEASURE. TIM AND I HAD AN EXCELLENT ENTERTAINMENT INTERCHANGE WITH CURTIS.

WHEN WE WORKED ON THE MURAL OVER AT DANIEL DALE AND COCKRELL HILL.

AND WE HAD THE CONTENT ALL MAPPED OUT AFTER A FEW MEETINGS AND THE DAD AND GAVE US THE PAINT AND EVERYTHING. SO IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW AN INDIVIDUAL INITIATIVE CAN LEAD INTO MENTORSHIP AND YOU KNOW, CREATE CONTENT THAT THEN IS MEANINGFUL.

AND WE ALSO PUT NOTICES AROUND TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS SO THEY KNEW IT WAS HAPPENING.

WE HAD A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS AND AWARENESS OF, YOU KNOW, THE DAY ITSELF. SO YES, I THINK YOU SHOULD DO IT.

YEAH, I APPLAUD YOU. I SAW HANDS OVER HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU. OH, YEAH.

SO IS THAT GOING TO. WHAT KIND OF TIME FRAME IS THAT GOING TO TAKE UP TO DO? THE MURALS? YEAH. I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE NUMBER SIX, THAT MUST. WELL, THE WAY THE MURALS WORK BECAUSE I SPRAY AS WELL, I DON'T JUST USE A BRUSH. YOU DO A BRUSH IF YOU HAVE A WALL, LET'S SAY IT'S 18FT HIGH OR 20FT HIGH, AND IT GOES DOWN FOR ABOUT 60 OR 70FT WITH THE BRUSH, IT COULD TAKE YOU AS MUCH AS TWO MONTHS TO DO IT.

BUT WITH THE SPRAY CAN, WHICH I DO ALSO, YOU CAN DO IT REALLY ALMOST IN ABOUT A WEEKEND OR EVEN ONE WEEK.

AND THE KIDS ARE LEARNING, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN GRAFFITI. THEY'RE LEARNING HOW TO ACTUALLY LEARN A TRADE.

THEY ACTUALLY LEARN HOW TO DO THINGS.

IF YOU GO TO NEW YORK AND LOOK AT THE GUGGENHEIM MUSEUM, THE MODERN MUSEUM OF ART YOU WILL SEE THAT GRAFFITI ART NOW IS GOING FOR SIX AND SEVEN FIGURES. SO IT'S A IT'S ANOTHER SKILL THAT KIDS CAN LEARN.

STUDENTS CAN LEARN. SO IT BECOMES A TRADE OFF OF EDUCATION, BECOMES A SAFETY THING.

AND LIKE HE DID EARLIER, RON, ABOUT STUDENTS BUYING INTO IT.

WE DID A MURAL. I HAD ABOUT SEVEN STUDENTS WORK WITH ME AT TAKEOUT BURGER, AND WE DID A MURAL ON THE INSIDE OF THAT.

AND THE KIDS, THEY PUT IT ON A THEY USED IT TO GO TO COLLEGE BECAUSE THEY USED IT AS HOURS, COMMUNITY SERVICE HOURS, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO USE THAT TO GO TO COLLEGE. SHELLY TURNED AROUND AND HIRED LINDA MARTINEZ.

SHE'S DOING SOMETHING UP THERE NOW.

THEY WORKED OUT A CONTRACT. I WAS SHOWING HER HOW TO DO IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, TO PROTECT LINDA AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, SHELLY, THE OWNER DOES IT RIGHT.

BUT IT OPENED UP AN OPPORTUNITY NOW FOR HER TO MAKE MONEY AS AN INCOMING SENIOR.

THERE ARE A LOT OF DYNAMICS TO IT THAT HELP THE YOUTH.

AND AND IT BUILDS THE, THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S A LOT OF BUY IN.

I THINK IT'S IT'S A WIN WIN FOR EVERYONE.

SO THE SIX WILL TAKE A SCHOOL YEAR OR SIX.

I DIDN'T EVEN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WITH THE SPACE.

WHAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION IS THE SIZE OF THE WALL, THE WEATHER, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE ACCESS TO IT.

SO EVEN THOUGH WE'LL DO MIDNIGHT MURALS SALE ON FRIDAY AND MAYBE SATURDAY NIGHT, YOU'LL PROBABLY FIND ME DOING BECAUSE I'LL TAKE DAYS OFF AND GO OUT THERE AND DO STUFF

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DURING THE DAY TO HELP SPEED UP THE PROCESS.

MAINLY I'LL RENT LIST TO DO THE TOP SO THAT THE YOUTH DON'T HAVE NO LIABILITY.

SO EVERYTHING THEY DO IS ON THE GROUND.

SO YOU MAY SEE IT START FROM THE TOP DOWN, AND IT CAN TAKE ANYWHERE FROM LIKE I SAID, TWO DAYS TO A WEEK. AND THE SIX THAT'S I THINK THAT'S JUST I THINK HE JUST SHOUTED OUT SIX. HE WAS EXPECTING ME TO RESPOND NO TO THE SIX.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE WHERE HE WAS.

YOU KNOW, I WAS KIND OF SAYING, OKAY, WHAT ABOUT ONE, YOU KNOW, HOW WAS IT LOCKED? HE SAID, WELL, WHAT IF I FIND 15, FIVE, 15? SO SIX WAS JUST THAT NUMBER AND HE TOOK IT, AND I'M GRATEFUL.

THE PART OF THE STORY THAT I LOST MY BREATH ON.

AND IF YOU MENTIONED THIS WHEN YOU WERE TELLING.

I'M NOT SURE. HE TALKED ABOUT THE PARENTS WHO WERE THE OF THE BOYS WHO WERE SHOT.

THEIR BEST FRIEND ACTUALLY WAS WITH HANNAH.

SO THAT YOUNG MAN WOULD HAVE BEEN SHOT, TOO.

AND SO THAT'S THE PART ABOUT THIS THAT APPEALED TO ME IS.

SO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE END OF JUNETEENTH, WE SAID, DO THE ARTS HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY IN PUBLIC SAFETY? AND I THINK THEY DO. OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT THE LADY, THE ONE THAT YOU JUST DID WITH SHAUN RAP AND SO FORTH DOES SHE.

IS THAT MURAL STILL UP? BECAUSE I WAS AT THE CITY HALL MEETING, AND I DO RECALL HER SAYING THAT SHE WAS GETTING A LOT OF CITATIONS FROM THE CITY.

SO WHAT WHAT HAPPENED? IT GOT RESOLVED. IT GOT RESOLVED? YEAH. I TALKED TO HER TODAY.

SO IT IS STILL OKAY? YEAH.

JUST JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO CERTAIN THINGS, YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE PERMITS AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE AUTHORIZATION FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT.

AND I DON'T I THINK SHE FELT LIKE BECAUSE IT WAS ON HER PROPERTY, SHE KIND OF KNEW WHAT SHE WANTED TO DO. BUT IF THERE'S NOT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, YOU STILL GOT TO GO TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND MAKE SURE YOU'RE WITHIN THE POLICY OF THE CITY. OKAY. SO YOU'RE STILL THERE.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? MR. FERGUSON, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE EVER DONE FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME HERE, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR VOICE.

IT'LL BE THE FIRST OF MANY CONVERSATIONS. OKAY.

DOES THAT MEAN I'M SUPPOSED TO LEAVE? OKAY. YOU CAN STAY. I HAVE TO GO.

I WANTED TO PIGGYBACK REAL QUICK WHAT I DIDN'T SAY, AND I GUESS I WAS NERVOUS, BUT WHAT RON WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PARENTS.

ALSO, WHEN I WAS AT CARTER HIGH SCHOOL MY LAST YEAR THERE, FOUR OF MY STUDENTS WERE MURDERED. OH MY GOD.

AND THROUGHOUT MY 36 YEARS OF TEACHING IN THE PUBLIC EDUCATION, I BURIED 54 STUDENTS. AND I'M SAYING THAT TO SAY THAT THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE PERSONAL. AND I GET EMOTIONAL AND TALK ABOUT THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHY THIS IS KIND OF A LIFE OR DEATH FOR ME.

AND I'M TRYING TO USE EVERYTHING GOD HAS GIVEN ME IN THE ARTS.

IS HAS JUST BEEN FANTASTIC.

AND WE'RE EMOTIONAL PEOPLE.

SO WHEN YOU SEE YOUNG PEOPLE DOING THAT, IT GIVES THEM SUCH SELF-WORTH.

YOU CAN'T EVEN MEASURE IT.

I AGREE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MR.. ITEM B, A SUMMER JAZZ ARTS AND BUSINESS MIXER.

[7.b. A Summer Jazz Note (Arts & Business Mixer) ]

OKAY. SO THIS THURSDAY, WE HAVE OUR ARTS AND CULTURAL ARTS MIXER.

IT'S GOING TO BE IN A BISTRO ON MAIN STREET.

WE'RE SUPER EXCITED. I KNOW YOU GUYS REALLY WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE MUSIC LOVERS.

LEARNING. THEY ARE AWESOME.

LINDA AND CHARLES ARE REALLY BEEN GOOD. THEY'RE INCORPORATING AND HAVING PEOPLE PLAY THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT AND DURING THE BREAKS AND STUFF. AND SO WE ALSO HAVE A FEEL GOOD QUARTET WITH BEN HAWK.

HE'S AMAZING. THEY HAVE A LOT OF THEY HAVE A LOCAL FOLLOWING AS WELL.

THEY PLAY DOWN IN BISHOP ARTS DISTRICT AT TRIUMPH AND SOME OTHER PLACES.

SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT IN THE FEEL GOOD QUARTET.

I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT ERICA.

ERICA JOHNSON HAS PERFORMED AT CARNEGIE HALL FIVE TIMES.

YOU KNOW, SHE IS AMAZING.

AND I REALLY AM SUPER THANKFUL FOR HER BECAUSE I KNEW OUR BUDGET WASN'T ENOUGH TO GET IT RIGHT, AND SO I'M SO THANKFUL FOR HER THAT SHE AGREED TO DO THIS.

SHE KNOWS I LOVE THE ARTS BECAUSE I DID A BRAND, SO I WAS LIKE, SO SHE'S FLYING IN FROM NEW YORK TO DO THIS FOR US.

SHE'S ACTUALLY OUT OF NEW YORK CITY.

SO I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

AND SHE'S EXCITED. SHE'S LIKE, ABSOLUTELY.

AND I WAS LIKE, LOOK AT GOD.

IS SHE STAYING AT ONE OF OUR HOTELS? SO I DON'T THINK SO.

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NOT LIKE THAT. WE'VE BEEN DATING FOR A REASON.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T ASK ALL THAT, RIGHT? BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY GOOD FOR US.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WAY TO REMIND EVERYONE WHAT WE DID WHEN WE BROUGHT THESE CULTURAL ARTS. YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A POINT WHERE IT'S THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE TAKING TIME TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS AND EVERYTHING.

BUT EVERYONE HAS BEEN SUCH A BIG PART IN THESE CULTURAL ARGUMENTS.

I THINK IT'S BEEN PINNACLE THAT HAS REACHED OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER. AND I LOVE TO GO TO OUR HEARTS.

NOT ONLY PEOPLE LEARNING ABOUT NEW BUSINESSES, BUT ALSO SEEING THE BUSINESS IN A NEW LIGHT, DRIVING TRAFFIC AND STUFF LIKE THIS.

SO I THINK THIS IS NO DIFFERENT.

I DO WANT TO SAY LIKE IF POSSIBLE, IF YOU COULD BE THERE BETWEEN WHAT TIME? ANGELA. YOU DIDN'T SAY, BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU BECAUSE USUALLY WE DO 5 OR 5 35 OR 530. SO I'LL BE THERE BY 515.

NO, I'M SAYING I WOULD SAY FIVE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THERE AT FIVE. LIKE WE DON'T KNOW YOU LIKE WE'VE NEVER MET YOU.

530 ISH ADA WILL BE THERE FIVE.

BUT I THINK THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE ALWAYS EARLY, EVEN WHEN I TRY TO BE EARLY AND I GET THERE, I'M LIKE TEN MINUTES EARLY.

IT'S JUST LIKE ALREADY SAID, I'M LIKE, OH.

AND SO ONE THING IS I CAN ALWAYS DEPEND ON HER.

SHE'S GOING TO DEFINITELY HAVE AN ARTS COMMISSION. TABLE UP.

RIGHT. WE HAVE THE WE HAVE.

SO THE STEP AND REPEAT.

WHO HAS THAT? YOU CAN HEAR IT'S ION GOING TO BE ABLE TO PULL THAT OFF.

CAN I CAN WE TAKE IT TO THE DRY CLEANER.

AND WE STILL HAVE $61 LEFT IN OUR BUDGET.

CAN WE GET A STEAM. NO, BECAUSE IT LOOKS I KNOW YOU COULD DO THAT.

OF COURSE YOU CAN GET A PRESS THE SAME DAY. DON'T PLAY WITH ME. I DIDN'T DO THIS. YEAH, WELL, I THINK IT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER.

LIKE VERSUS WRINKLED OR.

I MEAN, I COULD TAKE IT HOME AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE TIME, BUT I WOULD, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE WRINKLED. I DON'T LIKE THAT.

SO IF WE CAN GET IT, IF THAT'S OKAY, I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT BEFORE I LEAVE.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

I WE HAVE A WE HAVE NATHAN.

HE'S COMING. HE'S SUPPORTING IT. THANK GOD FOR OUR VENDORS. LIKE, THEY HAVE REALLY GAVE US SOME GOOD PRICING OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, AND THEY'VE GOT TIRED OF ME.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BE THERE.

SO WE'LL HAVE THE PHOTO BOOTH.

WE WILL HAVE THAT SOME PERFORMERS THAT WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN EVEN DURING THE BREAKS THAT WHEN THE BAND TAKES THE BREAKS AND EVERYTHING. I THINK JIMMY'S IS ALSO OFFERING A SPECIAL FOR ANYBODY THAT'S COMING.

JIMMY'S CHINESE FOOD NEXT DOOR.

JOHN. OVER THERE. OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS. SO SHEILA IS SO EXCITED.

THEY'RE LIKE, THEY'RE COOL, AREN'T THEY? THEY ARE SUPER COOL. AT THE LAST MEETING, I OFFERED IF YOU WANTED THE THEATER TO SPONSOR SOME WINE.

ABSOLUTELY. I CAN BRING IT AND MAKE A LITTLE SIGN AND PUT OUR BROCHURES THERE.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT LATER, BUT I KNOW I OFFERED, AND I TALKED TO A COUPLE OF BOARD MEMBERS TODAY. SO I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO CALL ME AND I HADN'T HEARD FROM YOU. SO I GOT APPROVED. OR NOT CRAZY WITH CHAMBER PRESIDENT OF THE CHAMBER BEING AT MY PLACE.

SORRY. BUT YES, WE WOULD LOVE FOR THAT IF WE CAN, AND I WILL. WHY DON'T WE TALK AFTERWARDS? AND I'LL GIVE YOU A SO WE CAN HAVE YOUR SIGNS MADE.

SO WE CAN. I CAN JUST DO THEM.

WE HAVE, LIKE, A BROCHURE HELPING THINGS. OKAY.

SO PERFECT. YEAH. SO THAT.

AND THEN I'LL BRING A LITTLE TABLE FOR YOU. YOU HAVE A TABLE? I'VE GOT A TABLE. I GOT IT THERE. SO THAT'S DONE.

SO YEAH, IF WE CAN DO THAT.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU.

NO NO NO, NO, I DIDN'T KNOW BECAUSE YOU.

YEAH. I DIDN'T KNOW IF.

WELL YOU WERE GOING TO CHECK WITH THEM AND SEE IF THEY WERE OKAY WITH HAVING WINE IN.

OH, THEY SAID YES. OKAY.

THAT WAS WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SEND ANYBODY. AND THEY'RE GOING TO. WHAT'S AWESOME ABOUT IT.

ONE OF THEIR PARTNERS IS A BREWERY.

SO THEY THEY'RE GOING TO TRY SOME COMPLIMENTARY BEERS. SO THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. PERFECT. OKAY.

THE THEATER, WE SERVE COSTCO, SO IT'S THE KIRKLAND BRAND, BUT YOU STILL WANT TO BRING IN A CHARDONNAY AND A RED BLEND, SO IT'S FINE, BUT I KNOW IT'S MY FAVORITE TYPE OF WINE. IT'S THE FREE WINE.

EXACTLY. YEAH. SO. OKAY, COOL.

YEAH. SO I THINK. IF WE CAN NEVER REALLY GET WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I HAD ALREADY TOLD THEM THAT YOU MAY DO IT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY TALKED.

SO WHEN I GO THROUGH THERE TOMORROW I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE SPACE FOR YOU FOR THAT OVER THERE BY. BECAUSE ANGELA OR ANGELA WILL BE THAT WAY.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO GET THE ARTS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, I DREAM ABOUT SO WE CAN GET SOME, YOU KNOW, LITTLE INFORMATION FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION.

I THINK THAT'LL BE GOOD. AND THEN I HAVE THE CUTOUTS.

I GOT THESE CUTOUTS, CUTOUTS, CUTOUTS MADE.

I COULDN'T BRING THEM IN BECAUSE I WASN'T CARRYING THEM, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE CAR. I PICKED THEM UP FROM WAXAHATCHEE ALEX, SO I PICKED THOSE UP, THOSE CUTOUTS. SO I PICKED THOSE UP.

AND SO WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER LITTLE FUN PHOTO OPPORTUNITIES AROUND.

WE GOT THESE LITTLE LAMPS THAT, LIKE, LOOK CUTE.

THEY'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO JAZZ LOUNGES, YOU KNOW? YEAH. IT'S GOT LITTLE LAMPS FOR THE TABLES, BUT OTHER THAN THAT EVERYTHING'S READY TO GO.

[00:55:03]

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A SUPER EXCITING NIGHT.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.

IT IS GOING TO BE CROWDED.

I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

AND SO THERE'S LIMITED SEATING.

I DID ALREADY TALK TO THEM ABOUT THAT.

I SPOKE WITH CHARLES, AND THE ONLY THING THAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT, I ALMOST CHANGED IT BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, I'M NOT GOING TO FIT IN THERE.

BECAUSE THERE WAS WITHIN A WEEK THERE WAS LIKE SPIKES ON THE FACEBOOK.

WE HADN'T EVEN HAD IT. SO I WAS LIKE SO WHAT? I DID ASK THEM IF THEY COULD.

I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO USE A PARKING LOT FOR ANYTHING. I SAID, WELL, PERFECT. I WAS LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO PUT SOME TABLES OUT. YEAH.

AND I SAID, JIMMY'S IS RIGHT THERE. IF PEOPLE WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SPECIALS, THEN THAT'S FINE. ALEX IS GOING TO PICK UP THE CROWD DIVIDERS, SO WE'LL PUT THOSE OUTSIDE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT TOMORROW. BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A PIANO OUTSIDE TOO.

SO THAT IF PEOPLE WANT TO JAM IN BETWEEN OUTSIDE, THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY COOL. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A SUPER EVENT ON THURSDAY, BUT I DO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SUPER PACKED.

I WAS KIND OF WORRIED AND THEN I SAID, NO, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S OKAY. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE WE'VE HAD IT, LIKE BACK SAID IS IS WE DID TWO BUSINESSES.

NOW WE'RE KIND OF DOING THREE. I WISH I WOULD HAVE WHICH JIMMY WOULD CALL ME BACK.

I MEAN, JOHN WOULD CALL ME BACK FROM JIMMY'S, BUT THAT WAY WE COULD HAVE KIND OF GAVE HIM A MORE BUDGET. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SMALL BUDGET COMPARED TO WHAT WE WERE DOING. AND THE TYPE OF ARTISTS WE WERE TRYING TO GET IN.

BUT THEY HAVE BEEN SO GREAT.

SO EACH OF Y'ALL, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU COULD THANK THEM.

OUR ENTERTAINERS, BECAUSE THEY, LIKE, LITERALLY GAVE US LIKE, HEAVEN IN A BOX. THEY ARE SUPER TALENTED.

SO I'M EXCITED. AND THIS WOULD BE OUR MIXER THAT WE DO TOGETHER.

AND I'M EXCITED. AND WE HAVE TO GET A REALLY GOOD PICTURE BECAUSE WE STARTED OFF WITH A REALLY GOOD PICTURE. SO WE GOTTA END WITH A GOOD PICTURE.

HEY, ALEX, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO BE IN FRONT OF IN CASE 600 PEOPLE DO SHOW UP? THE BACKDROP FOR THE PHOTO? NO. YEAH, LIKE A CROWD CONTROL.

OH, WELL, I THOUGHT ABOUT THE POLICE, AND I WAS LIKE, SHOULD WE HAVE POLICE IN THERE? BECAUSE I REALLY. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I WAS, I'VE BEEN NERVOUS ABOUT.

I'M LIKE, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT. 637 730 TO 8 AND, YOU KNOW, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IS IS.

SO THAT'S WHY I ASK YOU FOR MORE CROWD, YOU KNOW? AND SO I JUST FEEL LIKE THE BEST WE CAN DO IS PUT IT OUTSIDE FOR SOME TABLES OUTSIDE.

WE'LL BE FINE. I JUST REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'LL BE FINE.

GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE A QUESTION? TWO THINGS I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT BECAUSE I'VE DONE THESE EVENTS TO RESTAURANTS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU SERVE IN ALCOHOL.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL DO THE POTTY THING.

AND THEN THE SECOND THING I WOULD ASK IS, ARE THE CHILDREN GOING TO BE THERE? NO. WELL, NO, NO, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT.

WE ALWAYS MAKE IT TO THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S USUALLY ABOUT 98% ADULT.

AND IF KIDS COME IN, THERE'S NOTHING GOING TO BE GOING ON WITH THE KIDS. SO IT'S OKAY.

YEAH. SECONDLY, I WANT TO SAY I DO CARICATURES.

AND IF WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO VOLUNTEER AND WRITE AND DO SOMETHING.

I KNOW. OH. I'M SORRY.

I CAN'T TALK. I'M SORRY.

MR. FERGUSON, YOU'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

I CAN'T HAVE YOU TALK ON THIS ONE. OH, NO.

THAT'S OKAY. I WAS JUST I WAS JUST TALKING TO HIM ANYWAY. I APOLOGIZE.

WELL, I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO TRY TO FIND A.

WOULD YOU FOLLOW UP AFTER THE MEETING AND OUR REQUEST, I HAVE A REQUEST. SINCE I'M HANDLING THE MEMBER THE TABLE, THE. WHEN THEY FIRST COME IN, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET SOME COPIES OF THE 2025 2026 ARTS GRANTS AND HARD COPY THAT I HAVE ON THE TABLE, AND I CAN'T? WELL, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO OPEN YET, BUT IT OPENS SEPTEMBER 1ST.

WELL, YEAH, BUT IF PEOPLE CAN'T HAVE HARD COPIES JUST TO LOOK AT THEM OR SEE IT, I THINK MAYBE IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE.

YEAH, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO HAVE THE POLICY.

I WOULD THINK I WOULD THINK SOMEBODY COULD TAKE IT AND GO HOME AND READ IT AND GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE. YEAH.

I MEAN, THE, THE GRANT POLICY, NOT THE FUNDING POLICY.

THE GRANT POLICY IS WHAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT. RIGHT. THE GRANT. BUT WHY CAN'T WE HAVE THE ACTUAL. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TURN IT UNTIL AFTER THE FIRST, WHICH IS THREE DAYS LATER. SEPTEMBER 1ST IS MONDAY ONE.

I WILL SAY THE PEOPLE WHO TURNED IN.

I WOULD LIKE FOR WORKFLOW, FOR EASE OF MAKING THIS WORK, FOR THEM TO USE THE FORM THAT'S ON THE WEBSITE, OKAY, RATHER THAN FILLING OUT SOMETHING AND THEN SOMEHOW DELIVERING, WELL, NO, I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO FILL IT OUT, I JUST. BUT I CAN GIVE YOU THIS WITHOUT THE APPLICATION, THE ONE FOR THE FISCAL, THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WILL ALSO HAVE THE DATES SO THAT THEY WILL KNOW WHEN TO GO BACK TO THE WEBSITE.

I THINK THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE A BETTER THING.

SO IT'S FAIR. THE SAME STARTING POINT FOR EVERYBODY.

OKAY, COULD YOU DO A QR CODE OR JUST SIGN UP AND THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO? YEAH. OR I WAS THINKING COULD WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE AROUND THIS SIZE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND TALK ABOUT MAYBE SOME OF THE UPCOMING ART EVENTS,

[01:00:04]

BECAUSE WE HAVE HISPANIC HERITAGE, WE HAVE THE MOVIE NIGHT, AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD PUT THE FACEBOOK BOOK ADDRESS OR WEBSITE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

TWO DAYS AWAY. I CAN'T GUARANTEE I'D GET THAT DONE IF I HAD, LIKE, IN TWO DAYS. YEAH, OKAY.

JUST WONDERING, I WILL, I WILL, I WILL TRY, I WILL TRY.

I'M NOT SAYING THOUGH. I'M JUST JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE COULD TAKE. MAYBE YOU COULD MAKE ONE AND JUST HAVE IT ON AN EASEL.

AND PEOPLE CAN TAKE PICTURES IF YOU JUST LIST THE QR CODES OR SOMETHING.

OKAY. OKAY. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION I HAVE ON MY CALENDAR.

EITHER TOMORROW NIGHT SO THAT NOT A THING IS THURSDAY AT FIVE.

OKAY. 35 OKAY. WELL, I'LL PICK IT UP.

WELL THAT'S. WELL WE ORIGINALLY I JUST PUT THAT ON THERE JUST BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST BEFORE WE TALKED ORIGINALLY JUST BECAUSE I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ART OR VISUAL ART AND WE'RE NOT JAZZ STANDS ON.

SO AMY SAYS THEY HAVE ENOUGH GOING ON IN THE IN THE PLACE WITH THE.

OH, IT'S GONNA BE SO GOOD. IT'S GONNA BE TRUMPETS AND HORNS AND THE.

HA HA HA. YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, AND I THINK IT'LL BE GOOD.

I THINK IT'LL BE A DIFFERENT FEEL, YOU KNOW? I THINK SOMETHING THAT FEELS GOOD, YOU KNOW? SO EVERYTHING'S UNDER CONTROL.

I DO WANT TO. I'LL TALK TO YOU WHEN WE LEAVE HERE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND THEN WE'LL JUST GO FROM THERE.

AND THEN ALSO, AMY, IF YOU.

YOU SAID YOU HAD ANOTHER SHOW COMING UP, I NOTICED ON SEPTEMBER.

THE LAST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER. THE FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER. SO IF YOU ALREADY HAVE ANYTHING OUT FOR THAT. YEAH I JUST LITTLE BROCHURE CARDS.

SO YOU HAVE THOSE THOSE.

YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON EACH TABLE.

YEAH. SO TIFFANY MAKES THIS LOOK SO GOOD.

IT'S A LITTLE EFFORT ON MY PART. WE APPRECIATE IT.

ALEX DID GREAT POSTERS.

OH, I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT.

THIS IS OKAY. CAN I GET A.

LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. I GET HOME LAST NIGHT, AND I HEAR NOTHING. BUT THE THING ABOUT IT IS, THIS IS THE BEST GRAPHIC THAT ONE OF THE BEST GRAPHICS I'VE EVER GOTTEN.

LIKE, AND I I'M A CREATIVE IN MARKETING AGENCY.

ALEX, LIKE, I ASKED SO MUCH OF HIM.

I'M LIKE, I'LL SEND HIM EXAMPLES.

I'M LIKE, THIS IS WHAT I WANT.

I WANT THIS ABSTRACT, I WANT THIS, BUT THIS REALLY SUMMED UP EVERYTHING THAT I WANTED AND I'M SO SORRY.

OBVIOUSLY, WE DIDN'T COMMUNICATE THAT WHEN THEY WERE DROPPED OFF AT CITY HALL, SO THAT'S MY FAULT. I DON'T KNOW, IT'S MY FAULT, BUT I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS L BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I SHOULD PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SENT IT OUT ON A LITTLE TEXT LINE OR SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY. I JUST ASSUMED Y'ALL GOT AN EMAIL, DID I? OKAY, MAYBE I DID.

OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THERE ARE SOME LEFT.

EVERYBODY TAKES ONE AND JUST TAKE THEM TO A BUSINESS TOMORROW. SOME OF THE PLACES I WENT TO IT WAS A MONDAY. THEY WEREN'T OPEN LIKE MICHAELA OR KINGSMAN COFFEY.

I KNOW I TOOK SOME TO A FEW OTHER PLACES, BUT LIKE, IF YOU'RE JUST OUT TOMORROW, JUST TAKE THIS ONE THING, OKAY? AND YOU GUYS CAN TAKE HIM TO.

I'M NOT DRESSING YOU. I DON'T KNOW, BUT Y'ALL CAN TAKE ONE OF THESE TWO.

I'M SO TAKE IT TO YOUR PLACE APPOINTMENT IF YOU WORK IN DUNCANVILLE, BUT I WHEN I TELL YOU ALEX IS EVERYTHING, WE COULD NOT HAVE HAD A BETTER LIAISON.

NO. AND REALLY, WE PUT A LOT ON HIM.

AND HE STILL TREATS US LIKE WE'RE THE ONLY JOB THAT HE HAS.

YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALEX.

WE LOVE YOU. AND WE CANNOT BRAG ENOUGH ON US.

YEAH. HE GOING TO BE THERE SNAPPING PICTURES.

HE'S GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE FRENCH HAT ON. SO APPRECIATE IT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

SARAH. HELLO. YES. OKAY.

[7.c. National Hispanic Heritage Month Kick-Off ]

SO I'M EXCITED FOR THE NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH KICK OFF.

I WANTED TO ASK DO YOU HAVE THE GIFT? THE GIFT CARDS? YEAH. COME BY ANYTIME.

OKAY. OKAY. YOU MEAN LIKE AT CITY HALL? I CAN PUT THEM AT THE FRONT DESK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DROP BY, OKAY? NO, BUT I DO HAVE THEM.

OKAY. AND I ALSO HAVE ALL YOUR ALL STUFF YOU ASKED ME TO ORDER.

YES. THE MARKERS I ORDERED THE LARGER SET.

OH, OKAY. SO. OKAY. AWESOME.

AND THEN DOES ANYBODY HAVE ICE CHESTS? YOU DO. OKAY. CAN I BORROW THAT, PLEASE? OR OR ASK FOR ME? WHAT? WHAT TIME DO YOU WANT TO START? OKAY, SO THE EVENT IS FROM 4 TO 8.

4 TO 8? YEAH. THE 19TH? YES. 4 TO 8 OR 19TH. SO MAYBE BY LIKE 315, THREE, 15. YEAH. WE CAN KIND OF ASSEMBLE AND I CAN GET STUFF FROM YOU.

YEAH. I'LL BE THERE. OKAY.

AND THEN THE ICE CHEST I'LL BRING, I'LL BRING THE ICE.

LIKE I'LL GET IT WITH THE GIFT CARD. OH. DO YOU WANT ME TO BRING IT THAT DAY? IF YOU DON'T MIND. YEAH. IS THAT OKAY? NO. THAT'S FINE. I'M SAYING I CAN BRING IT EARLIER TO YOU IF YOU NEED IT EARLIER. OH, NO. YOU NEED A GREAT BIG ONE. OR DO YOU NEED A LITTLE ONE? PROBABLY A BIG ONE.

DO YOU HAVE A BIG ONE? OH, I GOT THE BIGGEST.

OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO PUT, LIKE, A BUNCH OF DRINKS IN THERE.

I'LL BRING A COUPLE OF THEM. OKAY. THEY'RE REALLY BIG, THOUGH. OKAY. OKAY. COOL. THANK

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YOU SO MUCH. I'M GONNA MARK YOU, AND YOU GOTTA REMIND ME TO TWO DAYS BEFORE.

OH, YEAH, I WILL, I WILL, I'LL TEXT YOU. OKAY.

YEAH. SO 315 ISH. WE CAN MAYBE START GETTING THERE, IF YOU DON'T MIND HELPING. JUST KIND OF.

THERE'S REALLY NOT TOO MUCH TO SET UP. IT'S JUST KIND OF MAKING SURE THINGS FALL IN ORDER BEFORE EVERYBODY STARTS SHOWING UP AT FOUR.

WE'LL HAVE MUSIC, YOU KNOW, BY AMY HAVE A MICROPHONE.

THE THREE STANDS FOR THE MARIACHIS. THEY'RE COMING IN LATER, BUT IF WE CAN HAVE THEM JUST READY FOR THEM, AND THEN THREE MIKES AND THREE STANDS, IS THAT WHAT YOU NEED? OKAY.

MAKE SURE I GET IT RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THEN LET'S HEADPHONES WILL COME OUT AND YOU KNOW, HAVE STUFF TO WHEREAS AND, YOU KNOW, FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE ON FOOD. SO I THINK THAT THE OTHER DAY. THAT'S DELICIOUS. OH, THAT'S REALLY GOOD. OH, IT WAS GOOD. ALEX SAID THEY BOTH SEND YOU THEIR INVOICES, MARTY, AND EVERYBODY SHOULD BE PAID FOR BOTH OF YOU.

OKAY? OKAY. NO, I WAS JUST.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THEY SENT IT TO TELL THEM TO SEND IT. CUZ I REMEMBER YOU TOLD ME TO LET THEM KNOW TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT.

I BELIEVE YOU'RE I BELIEVE BOTH BOTH.

OKAY. ALL PAID FOR. OKAY.

YEAH, YEAH. COOL, COOL. SO THAT'S REALLY ALL.

I JUST NEED TO PICK UP THE GIFT CARD, AND THEN I'LL GRAB.

IT'S REALLY FOR THE DRINKS, AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT, BUT IN THE ICE. AND THEN WE HAVE ICE CHEST.

SO THAT'S IT FOR ME. SARAH? OH, YES. DEVIN. YOU KNOW, OUR DISPLAY ORNAMENTS AND STUFF FROM LAST YEAR. I GAVE HER A BAG OF THEM.

OKAY. SO IF YOU WANT TO GET THEM FROM HER, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE HUNG. OH, OKAY.

LIKE. LIKE FOR DECORATIONS AND STUFF.

OKAY. THAT WOULD BE KIND OF CUTE. YEAH. OKAY.

DO YOU WANT TO STAND UP OR SIT DOWN NOW? BUT I DON'T THINK THESE TWO ITEMS ARE LONG ENOUGH, SO. OH.

OKAY. YEAH, I'LL, I GUESS, EMAIL DEVIN.

OR DO I LET YOU KNOW ABOUT WHAT ANN WAS SAYING, THE DECORATIONS THAT SHE HAS LAST YEAR.

THEY'RE IN MY OFFICE NOW. IN YOUR OFFICE? YEAH. OKAY.

OKAY. WHEN I LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THE GIFT CARD, I'LL PUT THAT IN THERE, TOO. YEAH, I CAN PUT ALL THAT AT THE FRONT DESK FOR YOU.

SO IT'S READY AS WELL AS ALL THE BOXES.

PERFECT. I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, I'M FANCY. I WAS LIKE, DO YOU WANT TO STAND UP ICE CHEST OR YOU WANT THIS ONE ON THE GROUND? WHICHEVER.

I THINK EITHER ONE COULD WORK. THE FANCIEST. YEAH. WE'RE FANCY AROUND HERE.

OKAY. BUT, YEAH, THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

UNLESS ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS. IS THIS A WELL-OILED MACHINE? IS THERE MORE BESIDES PINK EVENT? IS THERE MORE OF THAT? OH, YEAH. THE CITY IS DOING.

YEAH, THE CITY DOES FRIDAYS.

YEAH. SO I'LL BE THERE FOR THAT.

SO JUST. DOING THE WHOLE THING.

OH, YES. THERE IS THAT MORNING, THERE IS GOING TO BE THE ROOTED AND RISING RESILIENCE IN LIFE AND WORK.

THAT EVENT WILL BE TAKING PLACE AT THE HILTON GARDEN INN.

IT IS A EVENT THAT IS BEING HELD BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT HISPANIC NETWORK MEMBERSHIP DRIVE THAT WILL BE GOING FROM 9 A.M.

TO 4 P.M., AND THEN THE CITY IS MARKETING ALL THREE OF THESE TOGETHER IN SOME AREAS.

SO THEN THAT WILL GO INTO THE KICKOFF, AND THEN THE NEXT DAY WILL BE THE HISPANIC HERITAGE FEST, WHICH WILL START AT 4:00.

IT GOES FROM 4:00 TO 10:00.

AND I WILL ANNOUNCE THE.

PLEASE LET ME KNOW. OH, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE PERFORMERS THAT WILL BE THERE ON SATURDAY ARE. BECAUSE YOUR EVENT IS A KICKOFF OF THIS EVENT.

THE PERFORMER. OH, NO.

WHAT? I CAN'T EVEN TALK TO MY FATHER.

CAN YOU PLEASE READ THAT? SORRY.

WHICH ONE? THE THE. OH.

OKAY, SO THE FIRST ONE IS.

THE SECOND ONE IS QUEEN FOREVER LOS TIGRILLOS.

BALLET FOLKLORICO. OH, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THAT ONE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE. AND THEN DUNCANVILLE HIGH SCHOOL. SPANISH CLASS. I COULD HAVE BEEN THAT. IT WAS LIKE THEY WERE.

THEY WERE. SO THOSE WILL BE ON THE ACTS THAT WILL BE THERE SATURDAY.

SO DEFINITELY COME FOR THE ONE.

STAY FOR THE SECOND, STAY OVERNIGHT AND THEN COME BACK TO FAST CHECK INTO THE HOTEL.

I LOVE THAT. PERFECT. YOU CAN MAKE US LOOK GOOD.

OH I'M EXCITED. YEAH. WELL.

I'M SORRY. ONE MORE THING. THE 20TH. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO TABLES, RIGHT? YES.

YOU WILL HAVE TWO TABLES IN THE TENT.

DEVIN ALREADY HAS THAT DOWN.

IS ANYONE PLANNING TO BE THERE WITH ME ON THE 20TH? ON THE 20TH? YEAH, FOR THE 20TH.

THAT'S THE SATURDAY WHEN THEY'RE DOING THE HISPANIC. I'LL COME FOR SOME TIME.

OH, YEAH. I'LL TRY. YEAH.

OKAY. I DON'T MIND OBVIOUSLY BEING THERE THE ENTIRE TIME, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY WOULD. WE GOTTA SUPPORT YOU.

THIS IS OUR LAST EVENT.

YEAH, I BET WE DISQUALIFIED HIM.

OKAY, OKAY. AND THEN DO I HAVE TO HAVE.

DO I HAVE TO BE THERE THE ENTIRE TIME UNTIL TEN? OR WE CAN LIKE WE WILL SHUT DOWN AT 930.

[01:10:01]

YEAH. THEN. YOU CAN USE YOUR DISCRETION.

OKAY. I MEAN, IF YOU FIND THAT YOU.

THE PEOPLE ARE WINDING DOWN.

YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT YOU CAN. OKAY.

SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE I CAN DECIDE ON THE DAY OF. I DON'T HAVE TO LET YOU KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. YOU WANT TO MAKE A DETERMINATION? IF YOU'RE LIKE, I CAN ONLY DO IT FROM HERE TO HERE. WE THINK THIS IS BEST.

PLEASE LET ME KNOW. BUT OTHERWISE I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE JUST LIKE, WELL, I'LL MAKE A DECISION ON THE FLY BASED ON THE ENGAGEMENT.

YOU COULD ALSO DO THAT TOO.

I WAS I WAS KIND OF MAYBE LIKE 4 TO 8.

OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I'LL GET THERE EARLY TO HELP UP AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT SO THAT WAY ANYBODY WHO'S VOLUNTEERING WITH ME, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY THE ENTIRE TIME, BUT YOU CAN TAKE AN HOUR OR TWO OR SOMETHING IF THAT, IF THAT WORKS.

AND WHAT WAS THE ART ACTIVITY THAT YOU DO? WHAT IS IT? BECAUSE AT FIRST YOU WERE GOING TO DO THE LITTLE HEADS AND THEN YOU CHANGED IT? YEAH. WHAT, DID I CHANGE IT TO THE SKULL? YEAH. I WAS GOING TO DO THE SKULLS.

WAS IT THE SKULLS? NO NO NO NO.

OH, YOU CHANGED IT. YEAH.

WHAT DID I CHANGE IT TO? OH, WE HAVE THE ORNAMENTS, ISN'T IT? YEAH, I THINK IT WAS ORNAMENTS, LIKE THE OTHER LOS MUERTOS ORNAMENTS.

AND THEN YOU CAN, LIKE, USE, LIKE A MARKER TO, LIKE CREATE A COLOR THEM.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS SOMBREROS.

WHEN DID I CHANGE IT? THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE CREATIVE SURPRISES. YEAH.

OKAY. WHATEVER IT WAS, I MADE IT.

SO YOU CAN USE THE MARKERS FOR EVERYTHING. OKAY. YEAH. SO YOU TOLD ME IT WAS GOING TO BE A TEQUILA. OH, I'LL BRING TEQUILA ON THE TABLE.

I'LL BE THERE FOR THE ADULTS.

VOLUNTEER. YOU'RE LIKE, I'M THERE.

YEAH, BUT THE IDEA WAS TO USE THE MARKERS FOR EVERYTHING.

SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO GET PAINT AND MERCURY AND THIS, YOU KNOW, THOSE MARKERS.

AND THEN HERE'S THE ORNAMENTS OR SOME BURROS.

WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT? YEAH. YEAH, YEAH.

WOW. GOOD JOB. SARAH. YES, SIR.

WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED FROM US? THAT IS IT.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE AMAZING.

THANK YOU. GOTTA GO. ITEM SEVEN, THE ART WALK.

[7.d. Art Walk ]

OKAY. CAN YOU. YES. OH SO THIS IS AN IDEA THAT TIM AND I CAME UP WITH.

BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS AREA, THAT MAYBE WE INTRODUCE THE ARTS COMMISSION AND PERHAPS MONICA AND JEREMY TO SOME OF THE UNIQUE ASPECTS OF THE ARTS AND ARTISTS IN THE DUNCANVILLE CEDAR HILL AREA, BECAUSE WE KIND OF FEEL LIKE NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE.

SO OUR IDEA WAS TO SET UP A FIELD TRIP TO VISIT SOME PLACES, AND I PUT THESE TWO DATES SATURDAY THE SIXTH OR SATURDAY THE SEVENTH.

SEPTEMBER 13TH, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHEN WE'RE LEAVING, WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUR HOUSE ON THE MARKET AND WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE WE'LL BE HERE IN OCTOBER, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THOSE ARE JUST FOR SATURDAYS.

THE OLD MUSEUM IS STILL NOT OPEN YET, BUT I'VE WRITTEN TO ASK THEM IF WE COULD JUST COME IN AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE THERE.

NOT TAKE A FULL TOUR, BUT JUST GET A GLIMPSE BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY INCREDIBLE. THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT.

VISUAL EXPRESSIONS IS RIGHT OVER THERE.

LIKE TAKING A TRIP TO SANTA FE NEAR THE VERACRUZ CAFE, AND IT'S IN CEDAR HILL, BUT IT'S VERY CLOSE BY AND WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE THE OFFERINGS THAT THEY HAVE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE IN THE PAST ACTUALLY HAD TABLES AND THINGS AT SOME OF OUR ART WALKS AND THINGS IN THE MORE DISTANT PAST.

SLY GALLERIES IN CEDAR HILL A LOVELY YOUNG WOMAN OWNS IT.

SHE HAS ALREADY SAID SHE WOULD LOVE FOR US TO COME OVER.

AND THEN THERE'S ART STUDIOS OF REALLY ACCOMPLISHED ARTISTS.

THE MOST AMAZING ONES, I THINK, ARE TERRY HAYES AND KATHY ROBINSON HAYES. THEY'RE RIGHT HERE IN DUNCANVILLE.

YOU COULD CHECK OUT THEIR WEBSITES, TOO, BUT THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO US COMING TO THEIR STUDIO. GO. NEAR THEM LIVES VINCENT JOHNSON, WHOM I HAVEN'T MET, BUT HE'S A METAL SCULPTOR, AND DUDLEY SANDERS IS A REALLY ECCENTRIC ARTIST WHO HAS PAID FOR YEARS IN A LITTLE SHED. LIKE, REGARDLESS OF THE WEATHER, HE WOULD SIT OUT THERE AND HE'S PAINTED MANY, MANY PAINTINGS, AND WE HAVE HE'S NOT VERY GOOD AT SELF-PROMOTION, BUT WE HAVE DONE EXHIBITS OF HIS WORK AT DIFFERENT PLACES.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S MURAL POSSIBILITIES.

OR MAYBE WE GO LOOK AT MURAL SITES.

I KNOW THAT TO THE MAYOR, I SUGGESTED THIS IDEA OF HAVING A BIG MURAL ON THE BACK OF WHAT USED TO BE TERRY'S MARKET.

I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF IT NOW.

THE BIG HISPANIC MARKET ON CAMP WISDOM, BUT THE BACK OF IT FACES I-20.

IT'S A HUGE SURFACE, EMPTY, AND IT WOULD BE SO GREAT TO HAVE A DUNCANVILLE MURAL THERE.

PUTS DUNCANVILLE ON THE MAP, BUT IT'S A LARGE SPACE.

SO ANYWAY I DON'T KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, THIS MIGHT BE BETTER TO DO WITH THE NEXT COMMISSION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PROPOSE THIS.

I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SEEING THIS AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU ORGANIZE, I'M THERE FOR IT.

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IF YOU KNOW, YOU PREFER TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. IF IT'S THE IF IT'S A COMMISSION EVENT YOU CAN'T JUST INVITE 1 OR 2 CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

YOU HAVE TO FIGHT THEM ALL. OKAY.

OR WHOEVER IS OUR COUNCIL LIAISON, MAYBE.

BUT. SO HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU FORESEE THIS? WHERE ARE YOU GOING? TO CREATE A TOUR.

ARE YOU GOING TO BE THE TOUR GUIDE OR WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? WE WOULD SCHEDULE TIMEWISE AND MAYBE HAVE LUNCH SOMEWHERE OR SOMETHING, BUT I WAS THINKING SATURDAY NIGHT MIGHT BE THE ONLY DAY THAT SOME PEOPLE COULD COME SO WELL, I KNOW, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 6TH.

I GUESS YOU STILL PROBABLY COULD DO IT ANYMORE, BUT THE PINK DIAMONDS EVENT IS THAT SATURDAY. AND I DO KNOW THAT THE MAYOR AND MAYOR PRO TEM ARE BOTH GOING TO BE AT THAT.

SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 13TH, WHICH IS THE DAY OF OUR FILM, BUT IT WOULD BE DURING THE DAY IF WE WANTED TO. COULD THIS BE LIKE AN ART CRAWL INSTEAD? LIKE IT'D BE SOMETHING LIKE JUST THE ART WALK, BUT LIKE, MAYBE IT'S AN ART CRAWL WHERE YOU GET PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE AND THEY GET TO GO SEE ALL THESE, LIKE, YOU EVER BEEN ON A BAR CRAWL? NO. OKAY. SO YOU KNOW AMY.

WHEN YOU LOOKED AT ME, SHE SAID. GIRL.

YES. AND SO WOULD IT BE.

SO. BUT I THINK THAT THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS I LOVE THIS.

I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR PEOPLE TO BE EXPOSED TO THINGS LOCALLY THAT YOU NORMALLY DON'T GO IN. YOU ALWAYS THINK, I NEED TO GO IN THERE.

YOU ALWAYS SEE IT, RIGHT? SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO DO LIKE IT. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, EVEN BE ABLE TO SAY IS IS GUESS WHAT IS THIS? COME ON, THIS ART CRAWL WITH US, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE THESE 5 OR 6 DIFFERENT DAYS AND ASK THOSE PLACES TO PARTICIPATE IN IT.

AND THEN YOU MAY DO IT FROM, LIKE I WOULD SAY, LIKE MAYBE 2 TO 4, 2 TO 6 OR WHATEVER.

AND THE REASON WHY I SAID THAT SAY THAT IS, IS THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO GET STAR TRANSIT OR SOMETHING TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION.

SO LIKE YOU COULD GET PARKING, PEOPLE COULD PARK AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

THEY COULD. AND THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND TOOK PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP THAT THEY COULD PRE SIGN UP. I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE USEFUL TO YOU TO BE ABLE TO PLAN.

AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD ALSO DO SOMETHING TO REPEAT OVER TO MAYBE SOMETHING THAT YOU ONLY DO ONCE A YEAR YOU COME BACK AND DO.

I'M NOT SURE, BUT I THINK THIS IS A REALLY CALLING IT AN ART CRAWL.

WELL, IT DOESN'T HAVE IT CAN BE CALLED ART WALK, BUT ART WALK, I THINK SAYS TO ME AN ART WALK. I GO AND I'M WALKING SHOPPING CENTERS.

THERE'S ALL KIND OF ART. AND CORBETT MITCHELL.

SPONSORS. OKAY, NOW WE CAN DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, I GOT SOME OF THOSE.

SO, I MEAN, BUT I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD THING.

AND I LOVE THIS BECAUSE THESE ARE PLACES LIKE SLY CAT IS ON MY VISUAL EXPRESSIONS.

I'VE BEEN BY THERE, BUT I HAVEN'T SPENT TIME IN THERE.

RIGHT. I THINK THAT THE METAL SCULPTOR, I LOVE THAT BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN YOU AND TIM TALKED ABOUT HIM AND POSSIBLY PUTTING SOME THINGS IN THE PARK, AND WE NEVER WAS ABLE TO GET THAT DONE YET, BUT IT CAN'T BE DONE.

AND I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD THING.

THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD ART CRAWL JUST IN GENERAL.

AND I THINK THAT YOU WOULD GET OLDER. YEAH.

IT'S LIKE THAT'S EXACTLY.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, SO IT'S AN ART TOUR.

YEAH. AND SO I THINK THAT IF YOU SHAPED IT UP LIKE THAT, YOU GET A LOT OF SUPPORT AND THEN YOU CAN WIN A COUPLE SPONSORS AND YOU MAY WANT TO TURN AROUND AND DO THAT.

THAT WAY THEY CAN PROVIDE LIKE I THINK STAR TREK WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE CORPORATE LIMOS. WE ALREADY FORGOTTEN THAT.

I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD RAISE SOME MONEY FOR THAT.

WE SHOULD HAVE MADE AT LEAST HALF AN HOUR IN EACH, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, IF THEY'RE EXPLAINING WHAT THEY DO AND THEN YOU'RE GETTING QUESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE KIND OF A MAYBE AN ALL DAY THING. AND SOME PEOPLE JUST DO PART OF IT OR ANOTHER PART.

YOU KNOW, YOU YOU DON'T DO IT IN THE MORNING.

THAT'S 3.5 HOURS RIGHT THERE.

YEAH. SO I'D PROBABLY SAY LIKE THREE HOURS.

MOST LIKE PEOPLE ATTENTION SPAN IS NOT LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK LIKE 20 OR 30 MINUTES IN EACH SPOT GIVES YOU TIME.

AND I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENT ENGAGEMENT THAT YOU SPOT. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD. AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING. AND I THINK IT ALSO.

DO YOU STILL WANT TO COORDINATE THIS PROMOTES THE BEST SOUTHWEST ART YOU KNOW INFLUENCER TO I HOPE IT'S POSSIBLE. IT'S HOPE IT'S DOABLE.

SO MAYBE YOU CAN START IT SMALLER, EVOLVE IT YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT.

BUT AND IT COULD BE AN OPEN THING.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO JUST BE THE ARTS COMMISSION. BUT I FELT LIKE IF THE ARTS COMMISSION IS AWARE OF THESE PLACES, THEN MORE COMMUNITY AND THEN EVENTUALLY DESOTO, YOU KNOW, ALL ALL THAT THEY'RE DOING TO HAVE A FIELD TRIP TO GO OVER THERE AND AND LEARN ABOUT THEIR THEATER AND DIFFERENT THINGS. IT'S IT'S PART OF THE BEST SOUTHWEST AREA. AND THE MORE COORDINATION THE BETTER.

I THINK IT CAN GROW OVER TIME.

WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO GET STARTED? WELL, ARE THESE DATES DOABLE, OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE SOMETHING PLANNED LATER? I THINK THIS IS TOO SOON.

AND THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.

BECAUSE I WANT IT TO GO REALLY WELL FOR YOU.

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I THINK THESE ALL THESE DATES IN SEPTEMBER ALREADY WITH THIS THE STANDARDS.

I ALSO THINK IT'S OUR LAST MONTH.

I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU ENOUGH.

WELL, IT DOESN'T GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'D HATE FOR YOU TO DO THIS, AND WE CAN'T. YOU SUPPORT.

RIGHT? YOU SUPPORT EVERYBODY'S STUFF. SO I WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT YOU IN IN ANY WAY THAT I CAN. YEAH. ME TOO. YEAH.

ME TOO. AND MAYBE IT'S THE COMBINATION OF THE OLD ARTS COMMISSION AND THE NEW ARTS COMMISSION. WOULDN'T THAT BE GREAT? IF YOU MAKE IT WORK, WE'RE THERE. SO MAYBE OCTOBER IF WE'RE STILL HERE, OR WE COULD COME BACK THE 11TH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WHY WERE YOU GOING? WELL, WE THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

IT SOUNDS LIKE HE COULD MAKE SOMETHING WORK.

I THINK TO PARTICIPATE.

SO. OKAY, THANKS. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 70 MOVIES.

[7.e. Movies in the Park - A Million Miles Away ]

IN PART, BY THE WAY. OKAY.

THAT'S COMING UP. BY DEFAULT, I AM NOW THE CONTACT.

I DIDN'T START OFF THIS PROJECT RIGHT INTO THAT ONE, DIDN'T YOU? SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH NOEL.

I KNOW TIFFANY IS GOING TO HAVE A TENT OUT THERE, AND I KNOW MARYANNE IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE. TENT. SO WE'RE OUT THERE TOGETHER, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING OTHER THINGS.

SO I THINK I THINK SARAH WAS WORKING WITH ME THAT DAY.

I THINK YOU VOLUNTEERED.

I WASN'T I'M PRETTY SURE I DID.

YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE. ALRIGHT, SO I GOT THE ROCKS FROM ANNE, AND ORIGINALLY THE THOUGHT WAS PAINTING.

AND THEN I THOUGHT ABOUT PAINTING WE DID THIS SUMMER AND IT JUST GAVE ME STRESS WITH KIDS.

SO I PAINTED ALL THE ROCKS.

I SPRAY PAINTED THEM, I DID A CURSE WORDS, AND I SPRAY PAINTED THEM AND I PAINTED THEM DIFFERENT COLORS.

I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR THE LAST MONTH.

BLUE AND GOLD AND GREEN AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.

AND SO THEY HAVE LITTLE PAINTS.

THEY'RE GOING TO. THEY WERE TRYING TO DO IT.

I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF AN ART PROJECT THAT WAS IN CONCERT WITH THE MOVIE AND SPACEMAN AND ASTRONAUT. SO I'M THINKING, MAKE YOUR OWN MOON ROCK.

THAT'S THE IDEA. MAYBE LITTLE MOON ROCK.

SO I PAINTED ALL THESE ROCKS THAT.

AND I WASHED THEM. WASHED THEM TOO.

BUT I WASHED THEM. AND THEN I ORDERED ALL THESE CUTE LITTLE STICKER THINGS, AND I GOT A LOT MORE, BUT THEY CAN STICK THEM AND MAKE LITTLE.

I LOVE THAT. YEAH. YES.

AND IT'S SO MUCH EASIER.

YES. I LOVE EASINESS IN MY LIFE.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE HAD ANYBODY HELPING YOU PAINT ROCKS.

YEAH. YOU DIDN'T HELP YOURSELF? WELL, NO, I JUST WOULD GO OUT THERE EACH MORNING AND I.

I HAD THEM LYING ON MY DESK, AND I SPRAYED THEM.

AND THEN I WALKED BACK IN MY HOUSE, AND THEN I WALK OUT.

MAYBE BECAUSE IT WAS HOT SUMMER.

I WALK OUT 30 MINUTES LATER OR AN HOUR OR SO LATER, AND I FLIP THEM OVER AND PAINT THEM ON THAT SIDE AND GO BACK IN THE HOUSE.

SO I GOT THEM DONE. SO I HAVE THIS BIG BOWL AND THEY HAVE ALL THEY COULD JUST GRAB A ROCK AND THEN THEY CAN DECORATE THE ROCK AND THEY GOT LITTLE EYES FOR THEM.

I GOT LITTLE JEWELS. I'VE GOT LITTLE STICKERS WITH THE MOON OR STARS OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY CAN MAKE A LITTLE MOON ROCK. AND THEN I THINK NOEL IS GOING TO ORDER SOME MOON PIES SO WE CAN GET SOME MOON.

I LOVE THAT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO PLEASE COME OUT. YOU KNOW, SPREAD THE WORD.

THAT'S OUR LITTLE ART PROJECT.

WHAT DAY IS IT AGAIN? 13.

13. SATURDAY THE 13TH.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS. IT DOESN'T MATTER, OF COURSE.

HOW MANY ROCKS DID YOU PAINT? I HAVE NO IDEA. HOW MANY.

HOW MANY ROCKS DO YOU THINK THAT WAS? ALL OF THEM.

AND I GATHERED THEM ALL OUT IN THAT ROCK QUARRY.

OH MY GOD. OH MY GOD. I'M STILL READING YOUR BOOK.

OH. THANK YOU. AND GOT HIM, AND I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S ENOUGH. WHEN WE RUN OUT.

WE RUN OUT. BUT YOU DON'T GET THEM, ALL RIGHT? I'M CURIOUS. I'M CURIOUS.

OH. YOU DO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE CUTE BECAUSE I WANTED SOMETHING.

BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT WHEN WE PAINTED THE LAST TIME, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO HANG UP THE PAINT AND HOPE THE KIDS WILL COME BACK AND GET THEIR STUFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T COME BACK. I WAS LIKE, I DON'T GET THEIR STUFF WITH THEM.

YEAH. AND SO WE HAVE MARKERS SO THEY CAN THEY CAN MAKE THEIR LITTLE THEY CAN BE JEWELER AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND THEN TAKE IT WITH THEM.

SO AND THEN THE PAINT YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE PAINT DRYING BUT THEN LIKE THEY CAN JUST STICK SOME STICKERS ON THEM OR WHATEVER.

AND THEY CAN TAKE IT WITH THEM RIGHT THERE. KIND OF LIKE CHRISTMAS. AND I GOT A COUPLE OF GLUE STICKS AND SOME CLEAR GLUE.

SO IF THEY HAVE PROBLEM WITH IT STICKING, YOU CAN PUT A LITTLE GLUE.

BUT I WAS TRYING TO KEEP IT AS LESS MESSY.

YEAH, BUT YOU'RE SO CLEVER.

YEAH, I WAS TRYING. I THINK IT'S CUTE.

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ANYWAYS, SO COME OUT IF YOU WANT TO DO A MOONWALK.

BUT THAT'S. THAT'S THE THING.

WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? DO YOU NEED HELP? WHAT DO YOU NEED? PROBABLY JUST ONE PERSON.

LIKE I SAID, TIFFANY AND MARY ANN ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE.

SO. YEAH, WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO NOW.

OH, OKAY. BUT ARE WE. NO, BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER EVENT THAT DAY.

OH, OKAY. BUT I'LL BE I'M GOING TO TRY TO STOP BY FOR ABOUT AN HOUR WHEN WE GET DONE.

SO THERE YOU GO. YEAH.

SO WE'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME OUT AND THEN THIS IDEA, LIKE WHEN WE GO TO SCHOOLS, WE MIGHT.

I LOVE THAT STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT ANYWAYS, IT'S MOON ROCKS. WHAT TIME DO YOU WANT ME THERE? IT STARTS AT EIGHT.

YOU DON'T NEED TO BE THERE TILL EIGHT. OKAY. I'LL COME EARLY AND SET UP.

OKAY, I'LL GET IT. I'LL BE THERE IF I CAN.

OKAY. OKAY. I APPRECIATE IT.

AND CAN MOVE ON THE ROCKS.

YEAH. IF YOU WANT TO COME.

ANYBODY? ANYBODY. AMY, IF Y'ALL WANT TO COME UP, I'M HANGING LOOSE. CUZ YOU DID THE REHEARSALS, RIGHT? AND YOU DID THE PAINT LAST TIME.

AND, YOU KNOW, AMY WAS OVER THERE HANGING THE PAINTS, AND I WAS LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE ABOUT MYSELF? NOBODY ASKED ME TO PAINT WITH KIDS. THAT'S NOT. THAT IS NOT TRUE.

YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S YOUR ANYTHING? ANYTHING? I APPRECIATE THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC? ALRIGHT, LET'S GO ON. EIGHT.

[8. Art Grants ]

ARTS GRANTS. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE GRANT PROCESS, FOLLOW UP DISCUSSION. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THE PROCESS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. MAC MR. VICE CHAIR. I THINK WE HAD A GOOD FIRST DIP OF OUR TOE INTO IT.

I THINK THAT IF WE CAN HAVE THE ARTS POLICY, THE PUBLIC ART POLICY IN PLACE BEFORE THE NEXT ONE, IT'LL MAKE IT A LOT EASIER TO MAKE DECISIONS.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK THAT WE COULD IMPROVE? BRIDGE GAPS, THAT SORT OF THING? WELL, I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE HAVE IS LIKE, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE PRECEDENT FOR THIS. WE DON'T HAVE. RIGHT.

SO I ALSO THINK THAT IF WE COULD GET A LITTLE BIT OF CALIBRATION ON WHETHER IT'S HOT OR NOT WORTHY, NOT HOT, HOT, ELIGIBLE OR NOT, I THINK THAT WAS ANOTHER AREA OF THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING AROUND THE TABLE.

YEAH, YEAH. A COMMENT ON THAT.

THE ATTORNEY, BECAUSE THAT QUESTION CAME UP IN CITY HALL AND THE ATTORNEY SAID THAT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NEW AND IT HASN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE, YOU GIVE THEM SOME GRACE ON IT AND WATCH IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND THEY DON'T FOCUS SO HARD ON THAT PART.

IT'S VERY LENIENT. SO SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS, DID EVERYBODY WATCH THE MEETING WHERE YOU CANCELED DELIBERATED. SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS. IS IT HOT AND IS IT AN ARTS ORGANIZATION? BUT WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE.

WE MADE A WE MADE A PATH FOR EVERYONE, AND AND I THINK CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IT.

I MEAN, I APPRECIATED IT.

SO IN THE PROCESS, I'M GOING TO GO AROUND BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU LIKE, WHAT YOU DIDN'T LIKE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? WELL, I THINK I WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

I THOUGHT THAT THEY MADE A LOT OF GOOD POINTS.

RIGHT. AND THEY, I THINK WHAT I LOVED ABOUT IT IS, IS WE WAS KIND OF PARALLEL TO THEM ABOUT GIVING THE PEOPLE GRACE AND BE LIKE, WELL, THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY APPLIED FOR THE WRONG ONE OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO I THINK IT WILL GET A COUPLE CYCLES FOR EVERYONE TO GET USED TO. AND I THINK THAT WHEN THE NEW COMMISSION COMES IN, IT MAY TAKE THEM A CYCLE OR TWO TO GET USED TO.

RIGHT. BUT I THINK THAT OVERALL, I FEEL LIKE THAT WE'VE PRETTY MUCH PROVIDED A GREAT FOUNDATION FOR SOMETHING TO STAND ON.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I THINK THAT THAT THERE'S STUFF ON HERE ABOUT THE GRANT RUBRIC AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. I THINK IT'S HARD TO PUT EVERYTHING IN SUCH A NEAT LITTLE BOX WHEN YOU'RE FIRST BUILDING IT.

SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOOD THAT PEOPLE LIKE MATT AND AMY AND MEMBERS WILL BE HERE TO KIND OF LEAD THAT NEXT COUNCIL OR COMMISSION ON SO I THINK, LIKE, RIGHT NOW I'M VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT STORY FOR YOU AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT I WOULD NECESSARILY CHANGE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CHANGE RIGHT NOW BEFORE WE LEFT.

YEAH. AND BEFORE I FORGET THE REASON THAT WE HAVE THIS ACCESSIBLE GRANT PROGRAM IS BECAUSE ALEX DID ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING ON IT.

THAT SEVERE, SEVERE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIVITY.

SO WE SHOW UP AND WE HAVE AN OPINION, BUT UNDERSTAND.

SO WE HAD OUR DELIBERATIONS.

THEY WENT TO CITY COUNCIL.

ALEX HAD THE WHOLE PANEL SET UP TO PRESENT.

THEN IT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL.

ONCE THEY APPROVED IT, HE TURNED THE REQUISITIONS.

SO THE NEXT WEEK, THEORETICALLY, THOSE GRANTEES CAN HAVE A CHECK.

IT NEVER HAPPENS. AND I WORK WITH A LOT OF FUNDING ORGANIZATIONS.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, THAT'S A THAT'S A HEAVY, HEAVY LIFT. AND SO I CAN'T OVERSTATE THE

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REASON THAT WE HAVE THIS SUCCESSFUL GRANT PROGRAM RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE ALEX DID THE HEAVY LIFTING ON THAT. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REMEMBER THAT. SO IF I COULD JUMP IN ON THIS AND HAVE THE ARTIST IN YOU.

I IMAGINE YOU CAN SEE ALL THAT.

YEAH. NO. NO. OKAY. SO AT THIS POINT SO LAST WEEK, I ENTERED ALL THE REQUISITIONS. IT'S A MULTI-STEP PROCESS.

YOU HAVE TO ENTER IN ALL THE REQUISITIONS, AND THOSE REQUISITIONS HAVE TO BE TURNED INTO POS, AND THEN THOSE POS HAVE TO BE RECEIVED AGAINST.

THEN YOU HAVE TO PROCESS AN INVOICE.

AS OF AS OF TODAY, 13 OF THE 14 ARE SET TO BE PAID WITH FINANCE.

KNOWING THAT THESE ARE COMING I GOT THE LAST ONE CONVERTED TODAY INTO A REQUISITION AND A PO, SO I'LL BE ABLE TO ENTER THAT BEFORE THE CUTOFF.

IT WAS. COUNCIL APPROVED YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS LAST TUESDAY.

THE GOAL IS TO HAVE EVERYBODY PAID THURSDAY.

THAT IS THE GOAL. THAT IS NOT THE PROMISE.

THAT IS THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THEM PAID BY THIRD.

AND FINANCE KNOWS THAT THIS IS COMING.

THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S ONE MORE.

THEY KNOW WHAT THE GOAL IS.

SO I'M EXPECTING THAT AT LEAST ALL THE TEAM IS ON MY SIDE TO GET THIS DONE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE THAT'S WORKING WITH YOU IS HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE OUR APPRECIATION FOR THIS? BECAUSE THAT MAKES IT THAT MAKES US SO LEGITIMATE.

AND IT'S SO FORTHRIGHT AND WE'RE SINCERE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS WHO WANT TO CREATE ART OR PRESENT ART IN THE CITY DON'T HAVE AN ADVOCATE, AND THEY HAVE A DARN GOOD ONE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK, SARAH, ANYTHING THAT YOU SAW ON THE FOLLOW UP THAT THAT YOU THINK THAT WE HAVE SOME GAPS TO BE BETTER? NO. I THINK OVERALL, LIKE I WAS EXCITED FOR ALL THE APPLICANTS AND THAT WE HAVE CITY LEADERS TO SUPPORT US AND WE DID A GREAT JOB, LIKE KIND OF TALKING THROUGH THINGS AND FIGURING IT OUT AS WE GO.

NOTHING QUITE STANDS OUT TO ME WHERE I FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE IMMEDIATELY CHANGED OR ANYTHING, SO I. I'M SO FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T HAD THAT, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO AHEAD AND WATCH THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THEY DID REVIEW. ALEX DID A PHENOMENAL JOB OF REPRESENTING THE ARTS COMMISSION.

AND AGAIN, I CAN'T STOP BRAGGING ABOUT HIM BECAUSE THIS IS THE WORLD I LIVE IN AND HE DID SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB.

BUT LISTEN TO WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL SAID.

PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM.

THANK THE ARTS COMMISSIONS FOR DUE DILIGENCE AND OUR THOROUGHNESS AND THAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND WE LOOKED AT ALL OF IT.

IF YOU GET A CHANCE, IF YOU DON'T WATCH THE WHOLE THING, YOU HAVE TO GO TO YOUTUBE, FIND IT.

FAST FORWARD TO THAT POINT. IT'S GOOD FOR THIS COMMISSION TO WATCH IT.

AND I REALLY DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.

I'LL SAY SOMETHING MAYBE LATER ABOUT THE UPCOMING INFORMATION.

GOTCHA. AMY. I THINK IT WAS VERY GOOD.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO STREAMLINE IT. I FELT LIKE IT WAS VERY LENGTHY THAT EVENING GOING OVER EVERYTHING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY AND THAT I DON'T KNOW, ALEX, IF THERE IS TO MAYBE COMBINE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND THE INFORMATION ON THAT APPLICATION SO THAT IT'S NOT IT.

I THINK IT TOOK A LOT TIME TO I THINK BY THE END, WE WEREN'T PERHAPS GIVING THE END APPLICANTS MUCH ATTENTION AS WE DID THE EARLY ONES.

SO OR MAYBE IF WE REVIEW THEM, WE BREAK THAT UP INTO TWO SESSIONS BECAUSE IT WAS LENGTHY AND I FELT LIKE I WOULD AGREE TO THAT.

YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT I FELT LIKE WE WERE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT WEARY AND AND MAYBE NOT GIVING THEM I MEAN, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF ABOUT THE ACTUAL REVIEW.

WHEN WE SAT AND DISCUSSED IT AND SAID, BUT WE WERE DISCUSSING WHAT THEY PUT ON THERE. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO TO WELL, THAT WAS 15. AND SO WHAT HAPPENED IF THERE WERE 50 I KNOW, 150. SO I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO THINK THROUGH THAT.

OR IF IT'S, IF IT'S MORE THAN THAT, NEXT TIME WE NEED TO BREAK THAT UP INTO TWO SESSIONS TO CONSIDER THEM AND NOT ALL IN ONE EVENING, BECAUSE I FELT LIKE THERE WAS FATIGUE TOWARD THE END AND THAT WE WEREN'T PERHAPS ABLE TO.

WE'RE LIKE, YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY, SO INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO GIVE THEM THEIR BECAUSE THEIR RESPECT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THE THE, THE, THE, THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE READING THROUGH IT, IT'S LIKE, YEAH, THAT SOUNDS REALLY GOOD. BUT I FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO MAYBE, PERHAPS BREAK THAT UP A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE IT A LITTLE MORE CONSIDERATION. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS GREAT. IT WAS JUST I DON'T THINK ANY OF US KNEW IT WAS GOING TO TAKE THAT LONG. AND I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF THAT BY THE END OF THE EVENING, MY OPINION WASN'T AS AS GOOD AS IT PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOWARD THE END OF THAT REVIEW PROCESS. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS LEGALLY.

IF WE COULD BREAK THAT UP INTO TWO SESSIONS OR HOW WE CAN DO THAT, BUT A LONGER WORK SESSION, PERHAPS, WHERE WE START EARLIER AND DO OTHER

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THINGS, BUT WE SOME FUTURE COMMISSIONERS.

YEAH, BUT ANYWAY, I'M JUST SAYING IF IT'S A COMMISSION, IF THE ARTS COMMISSION CAN BREAK THAT UP.

DO YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO DO IT ON A SATURDAY? I THINK MORNING SESSION.

YEAH. LIKE ALMOST LIKE A ALMOST LIKE A WORKSHOP.

THAT'S LIKE FOR A COUPLE HOURS TO FINISH.

YEAH. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND WE, YOU KNOW, EAT LUNCH OR DO SOMETHING. AND THEN WE LOOK AT IT AGAIN BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HEAT FOR ME TOWARD THE END.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE EVERY APPLICATION THE RESPECT AND THE CONSIDERATION THAT I FEEL LIKE IT. YOU KNOW, THEY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT. I KNOW HOW MUCH WORK IT IS TO FILL OUT ONE OF THOSE APPLICATIONS, TO SUBMIT IT AND DO YOUR BUDGET AND DO ALL OF THAT.

AND I WANT TO BE SURE AND GIVE EVERYTHING THE CONSIDERATION THAT IT DESERVES. SO AND, YOU KNOW, SHE MADE ME THINK OF WHAT'S REALLY COOL ABOUT THIS, LIKE AMY'S TALKED ABOUT FOR DECADES, THAT THE THEATER HAS KIND OF DEALT WITH A LABORIOUS GRANT PROCESS WITH WITH WHAT? HOW WAS PREVIOUSLY DONE.

THIS MADE IT SO MUCH EASIER.

IT'S A TRUE GRANT. SO FOR THE APPLICANTS THEY HAVE, AMY CAN SET THEM ALL DOWN AND SAY, LOOK, WHEN I WAS YOUR AGE, HE HAD 72, EIGHTH GRADE.

THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO DO.

BUT I DO AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE ONE THING I THINK, TOO, IS DOING IT EARLIER IN THE DAY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE AS WE ALL WERE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT WE DID A GOOD JOB. BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S HARD WHEN IT'S YOUR DAY BECAUSE YOU'VE WORKED ALL DAY, RIGHT? AND YOU, YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME YOU DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL LIKE.

BUT I DO THINK THAT IF IT WAS A PRIORITY, IT MADE IT LIKE A SATURDAY MORNING FROM LIKE 9 TO 2 OR SOMETHING IN OR WHAT HAVE YOU IN DIFFERENT SESSIONS.

LIKE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I WILL TAKE A BREAK.

I WILL TELL YOU THIS REAL QUICK, REAL QUICK. ALEX. SO I'VE SENT A LOT OF READING PANELS FOR FOR GRANTS.

IT FEELS LIKE WE GOT SLOPPY AT THE END, MAYBE BECAUSE WE ALL WANTED TO.

I KNOW BECAUSE WE WANTED TO DO BETTER.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU, YOU DID GOOD.

YOU DID GOOD. YOU DID GOOD.

I'M WATCHING THAT. I, I SENT MANY, MANY READING PLANS.

SO IT FELT TIRED FOR US BECAUSE LIKE AMY SAID, WE WANTED TO DO THE BEST JOB AS THE FIRST ONE WE WANTED, BUT HONESTLY, WE DID A GOOD THOROUGH JOB AND AND WHEN IT GOT TO, WE HAD LIMITED RESOURCES TO DRAW ON BECAUSE WE HAD TWO POLICIES DRAWN UP AND NOTHING ELSE. AND SO I THINK IT WAS FATIGUING FOR US BECAUSE WE WANTED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND EACH AS WELL AS WE CAN. SO IF WE DIDN'T, TO AMY'S POINT, BECAUSE SHE'S A PROFESSIONAL, IT WOULD FEEL LIKE YOU SHOULD KNOW. BUT BUT LOOKING BACK, LIKE I SAID, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, IF YOU WERE TIRED, I DID NOT SEE IT AND I WAS.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY. I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T THINK WE RUSHED THROUGH ANYTHING. I FELT IN THE END THAT PERHAPS I MYSELF, AS I WENT HOME THAT NIGHT, I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT HAVE HAD SIMILAR QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WE APPROVED. I THINK WHAT WE DID WAS THE RIGHT THING.

I'M JUST SAYING IF WE REVIEW AND IF WE HAVE MORE APPLICATIONS THE NEXT TIME, I THINK THAT PERHAPS THE SATURDAY WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO GIVE US TIME TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING EVERY APPLICATION THE ATTENTION THAT IT DESERVES ANY MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD.

AND I, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AFTER O'CLOCK. I KNOW THAT NIGHT I GOT HOME AT LIKE 5 TO 10. SO AT THAT POINT, AT SOME POINT, IF THERE HAD BEEN A COUPLE OF MORE, I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST A THIS IS JUST A RECAP AND A FOLLOW UP.

AND I'M SAYING IF THERE WERE MORE THAT I FEEL LIKE THAT PERHAPS IT NEEDS TO BE A DIFFERENT KIND OF MEETING. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. WELL, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I'VE PROBABLY WATCHED THE VIDEO FIVE TIMES NOW, BECAUSE EVERY TIME SOMEONE ON COUNCIL OR SOMEONE ON STAFF ASKED ME A QUESTION, I HAVE TO GO WATCH IT AGAIN. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT MOMENT, YOU DON'T SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY WHEN YOU GO BACK. AND I HATE LOOKING AT VIDEOS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A PIGGY FACE.

I SOUND FUNNY BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF EFFICIENCIES, LIKE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT ALEX HAD MENTIONED AT THE COMMISSION. WE COULD BREAK THIS UP IN MULTIPLE DAYS.

AND I THINK AS APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, FUTURE COMMISSIONS CAN HAVE SPECIAL SPECIAL MEETINGS WE TALKED ABOUT ALSO, MAYBE THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE ARTS COMMISSIONS TO DO SOME STRATEGIC PLANNING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF GRANT REQUEST, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. AND, AND AND I THINK IT'S AND I WASN'T AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO TO SUGGEST THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK THAT YOU DID YOUR BEST WAS LIKE, BECAUSE I WATCHED YOU.

I WATCHED YOU, WATCHED YOU, WATCHED YOU. I WATCHED YOU ABOUT 100 TIMES, ACTUALLY. FINE. BUT BUT I WANT JUST WHAT THAT SAYS TO ME.

AND THIS I KEEP GOING BACK TO THIS BECAUSE HOW PROFESSIONAL THIS ARTS COMMISSION IS.

BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE AND WE'RE. AND I HATE DUMB ANALOGIES, BUT THE ANALOGY IS OR THE METAPHOR IS THAT WE'RE BUILDING THE PLANE AS WE FLY IT.

AND SO I WANT TO COMPLIMENT I THINK YOUR SUGGESTION ON BUT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I WAS WATCHING YOU DIDN'T LOOK TIRED, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE ON IT.

I REMEMBER BEING IN CITY COUNCIL WAITING FOR MY HOT FUNDS APPROVAL, AND IT'D BE ONE. I MEAN, LITERALLY, I WAS THERE AT ONE TIME. IT WAS 01:00 IN THE MORNING. AND I CAN JUST ASSURE YOU THAT AT SOME POINT SETS IN.

SO I THINK I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE ABOUT, PREVENT THAT FROM LIKE, OKAY, IT WAS TILL 10:00.

LET'S NOT LET IT, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET A WHOLE LOT MORE, I KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE FOR IT TO BE MIDNIGHT,

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01:00 IN THE MORNING, AND YOU'RE SITTING THERE WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO TELL YOU YOU'RE APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED OR WHATEVER. AND I DON'T WANT US TO EVER WANT THE COMMISSION TO.

I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT THAT I FEEL LIKE THAT WE MIGHT APPROACH AND WE AND WE ARGUED AND WE DEBATED AND WE FUSSED AND WE FOUGHT AND WE LOOKED AT IT AND WE HELD UP SHEETS OF PAPER AND WE VOTED, AND WE ALL DIDN'T VOTE THE SAME WAY.

YEAH. WE DID ALL THE THINGS WE DID.

ALL THE THINGS COMMISSIONER SUPPOSED TO DO. YES. AND I WASN'T SAYING THAT WE DIDN'T. I WAS JUST I KNOW IT'S JUST PART OF MY RECAP, AMY SAYING, LIKE, WE NEED DINNER. THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I'M DONE. SO.

ME, TOO. YES. SO JUST SO THAT I CAN WALK AWAY WITH SOMETHING.

BECAUSE YES, I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY KIND OF WANTED TO RECAP HOW THEY FELT AND THE THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT ARE THE QUESTIONS ON THE APPLICATION, DID THEY HELP YOU? IS THERE QUESTIONS THAT YOU NEEDED ON THE APPLICATION THAT WEREN'T THERE? DID YOU HAVE THE APPLICATIONS LONG ENOUGH IN ADVANCE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO, LIKE, TAKE TIME WITH THEM AND COME IN SO THAT YOU ALREADY HAD ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND THINGS THAT INTO THE MEETING.

DID YOU REGRET NOT MEETING THE ARTIST OR DID YOU LIKE NOT BASICALLY THE WAY THAT I SET IT UP, WHEREAS YOU DID NOT.

YOU REVIEWED THE APPLICATION ON ITS OWN, LIKE COUNCIL MEET THE ARTIST.

LET THEM MAKE THEIR PITCH DIRECTLY TO THEM.

DO YOU NEED TO SEE MORE SAMPLES OF THINGS? SO IF THERE'S A LONGER DAY? SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MURAL, YOU HAD SOME EXAMPLES OF HIS ART WANT TO SEE WITH A MURAL THAT THEY NEED TO PITCH, THE ACTUAL MURAL THAT YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING. I LIKE I LIKED HAVING THE PAPERWORK, THE DOCUMENTATION, AND THAT MAY BE THE FORMER TEACHER IN ME.

I WANTED TO READ THAT AND THAT WAS HELPFUL.

SOMETIMES YOU GET CAUGHT UP IN EMPATHY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE ALL ARTISTS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY COME AND DO THEIR PITCH.

INITIALLY, IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO LOOK AT PAPER, BLACK AND WHITE TO LOOK AT THAT APPLICATION.

THE ONLY THING THAT WAS CONFUSING TO ME ABOUT APPLICATION, MAYBE EVERYBODY WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T ALL HAVE THEIR BUDGET ATTACHED. AND I DON'T KNOW, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BECAUSE I READ THEM ALL. AND THEN WE GOT SOME OF THE BUDGETS LATER, AND THEN I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO GO BACK AND TRY TO MATCH ALL THAT UP. IF THERE WAS A WAY FOR CONTINUITY FOR IT TO BE AND SOME OF THEM DIDN'T, AND IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IT, BUT BUT EVERYTHING WAS FINE, BUT I DON'T, I, I PREFER THE PAPER TO BEGIN WITH, NOT A PITCH. SO WITH REGARDS TO THE BUDGET, BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I WENT AHEAD AND PUSHED THEM THROUGH ANYWAY IS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD ASK, IS THE BUDGET A YES OR NO? IF THERE'S NO BUDGET, IT DOESN'T GO TO THE ARTS COMMISSION.

IF YOU HAVE A BUDGET, WE HAVE TO KNOW, BECAUSE THAT TELLS ME THAT THEY HAVE SOME BUSINESS SENSE THAT WE'RE FUNDING SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN, THAT THEY'VE THOUGHT IT THROUGH.

IF THEY DON'T HAVE A BUDGET, THEN THAT AND THAT MEANS THEY HAD AN IDEA, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN. AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO PITCHING SAMPLES, GIVING YOU SOMETHING. SO FOR THEM, I GREW UP WANTING TO BE A COMIC BOOK ARTIST.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DO. AND YOU HAD TO HAVE A PORTFOLIO.

YOU HAVE TO SHOW THE THE EDITOR YOUR PORTFOLIO TO GET A JOB.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL APPROVED WAS A MURAL WITH SOME SAMPLES, BUT YOU DID NOT APPROVE THE MURAL.

NOW, THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO SET IT UP AS OF TONIGHT, THE MURAL IS GOING TO COME BACK TO THE ARTIST THAT'S COME TO US ANYWAY THE WAY WE'RE SETTING UP. BUT YOU ALREADY PAID.

YOU'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THE MURAL SITE UNSEEN.

SO IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT WITH VISUAL ARTS SO THAT WHEN IT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL, I THINK WE SHOULD.

I THINK THINGS I THINK THAT THE FIRST THING I WOULD RECOMMEND, NOW THAT WE'RE INTO IT, THIS THE SAMPLE, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A SAMPLE BUDGET PROVIDED A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS YOU CAN PROVIDE A BUDGET, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING RFPS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT OR GRANTS. SO I THINK IF WE JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE SAMPLE, SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOUR BUDGET CAN LOOK LIKE, THE MOST SIMPLEST FORM THAT THEY CAN TURN IN, I THINK THAT GIVES THEM SOMETHING TO GO LIKE GO BY.

AND I THINK IT'LL MAKE IT EASIER BECAUSE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CREATIVES. I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO ALWAYS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.

SO I THINK LIKE FOR THE BUDGET PART, I THINK THAT IF WE CAN PROVIDE THEM A TEMPLATE TO PUT THE INFORMATION IN, YOU KNOW, OR, AND SHOW THEM A SAMPLE, THAT WOULD BE USEFUL.

I REALLY DO. THAT WOULD BE SUPER USEFUL BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE WAS SO MUCH THAT WAS ONE AREA THAT REALLY WE WERE LIKE, WELL, THIS PERSON DIDN'T HAVE THIS PERSON DID.

I THINK A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ASKING, RIGHT. OVERALL FOR THE PROJECT AND I DON'T THINK THAT I WOULD SAY IS I WOULD LIKE IF I WERE, IF I WERE TO DO IT AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE ACCESS.

I'M A PAPER PERSON. LIKE, I GOT TO PUT EVERYTHING OUT TO READ IT.

MAYBE I WASN'T A TEACHER, BUT I JUST GOT TO PRINT OUT THE READINGS.

I GOT TO SEE IT ON PAPER.

SO I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT EVEN THOUGH I WAS ABLE TO SEE IT DIGITALLY,

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I WASN'T ABOUT TO PRINT ALL OF THOSE OUT.

WHEN YOU GAVE US THE PAPER, I WAS SO HAPPY.

BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT AND PICK IT UP A WEEK BEFORE, KIND OF LIKE A BINDER WITH SOME EVEN HOLDING A HAND UP.

AND THEN I WANT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAND.

BUT YOU AND I TALKED AT THE END OF THE LAST ONE ABOUT BECAUSE THE CONVERSATION WAS WAS ABOUT THEM, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU APPROVE A MURAL WITHOUT SEEING THE MURAL? BUT I WANT TO START WITH MATT. CAN I GO TO YOU IF THAT'S OKAY? I AGREE WITH THE PAPER. BUT THE PAPER LIKE THE APPLICATION BE ONE APPLICATION BECAUSE I THINK IF I REMEMBER THERE WERE LIKE 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE APPLICATION, THAT WAS CONFUSING. SO I PRINTED OUT LIKE A WEEK BEFORE WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME BECAUSE THEY THE DIGITAL WAS LABORIOUS FOR ME.

THE I LIKE THE SAMPLE OF THE BUDGET, BUT I WOULD, IF IT'S GOING TO BE A MURAL, MAYBE A SKETCH OF THE MURAL THEY'RE PROPOSING. SO WE HAVE SOMETHING TO SEE.

WHAT? WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND MAYBE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE. AND THAT WAS MY THIRD THING.

OH EDUCATING THE APPLICANTS BEFORE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SOME KIND OF EDUCATION PIECE WHERE THEY SHOW THEM OR TELL THEM, SHOW THEM HOW TO DO THIS.

THAT'S HOW TO VIDEO, I LOVE THAT.

SO THAT WAS MY THREE. BUT SO LIKE THIS IS LIKE AS A LEAD IN FOR YOU.

SO YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO SEE A, A A SKETCH OF THE MURAL, BUT DID YOU WANT TO SEE LIKE LIKE IF IT WAS A JAZZ PERFORMANCE, DID YOU WANT TO SEE A BIT OF THE JAZZ OR THE THEATER OR.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A DIGITAL THING, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE.

YEAH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

WELL, I AGREED WITH AMY'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE TIME AND HOW EXHAUSTING IT WAS.

I THINK IT WAS A LOT TO PREPARE FOR.

I WAS AT RON'S PREPARATION PERHAPS IN COMPARISON TO SOME OF THE REST OF OURS.

BUT SOMEONE LIKE TIM WOULD APPRECIATE MORE VIDEO OR MORE VISUAL.

AND I THINK IF WE STREAMLINED THE FORMAT AND HAD WORD COUNT LIMIT OR DESCRIPTION OR CERTAIN THINGS, IT MIGHT HELP READING IT ALL, WHETHER WE HAVE IT ONLINE IN SOME FORMAT THAT THEY FILL OUT WHERE THERE'S A SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, JUST 75 WORDS HERE OR WORDS HERE OR THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, THE EXAMPLE OF THE BUDGET SO THAT IT'S EASIER TO KIND OF PROCESS IT IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER THINGS.

BUT I MYSELF, BECAUSE I LOOK AT INDIEGOGO AND KICKSTARTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I LOVE A SHORT VIDEO OF PROMOTING SOMETHING AND YOU COULD A MINUTE, YOU KNOW, OR PICTURES AND IT COULD BE OPTIONAL.

YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEIR APPLICATION IS, IT COULD BE OPTIONAL.

AND I GUESS WE'VE DONE THE THE FILM THROUGH FILMFREEWAY.

WE'VE DONE FILM ASSESSMENTS WHERE WE'VE IT'S ALL BEEN THERE ONLINE AND YOU WATCH THEIR REEL OR WHATEVER, AND THEN YOU READ IT ONLINE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE TALLIED IT ALL UP.

SO IT WAS MORE OF A PERSONAL VOTING THAN A COMMUNITY VOTING.

AND YET THE COMMUNITY VOTING IS INTERESTING BECAUSE WHAT SARA SAYS OR TIFFANY SAYS MIGHT SWAY US FAVORABLY OR OR NOT TOWARD A DECISION.

SO I'M SORRY. ANYWAY, I JUST THINK THAT IT COULD BE STREAMLINED SOMEHOW, BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE A LOT OF WORK TO PREVENT AND THEN TO, TO TO READ ON SITE AS WELL.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S VALID.

AND SO THAT'S THE SECOND COMMENT ABOUT STREAMLINING OTHER. SO THIS IS KIND OF IN A PUBLIC ART POLICY. AS YOU START TO THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS.

OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO IT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS DEPENDING ON HOW MANY APPLICANTS, HOW MUCH MONEY IS THEY CAN HAVE COMMUNITY PANELS THAT BREAK UP INTO CONTENT EXPERT. LET'S SAY THAT YOU GET 30 APPLICATIONS FOR DANCE.

WELL, THEN YOU HAVE A PANEL THAT'S AN EXPERT ON DANCE TO DO THAT. THERE ARE SOME ALSO THAT BREAK IT UP INTO BUDGETS.

SO EVERYONE WHO'S LOOKING AT THE $3,000 BUDGET ISN'T THERE.

EVERYONE WHO'S LOOKING AT THE $10,000 BUDGET GOES TO A DIFFERENT PANEL.

IT'S MANAGEABLE RIGHT NOW WITH THE ARTS COMMISSION IN PLACE.

AND, AND AND I KNOW THAT ALEX HAS DESCRIBED THE ARTS COMMISSION, THAT PANEL. BUT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THEY HAVE ARTS COMMISSIONS, BUT THE BUT THE VOLUME OF IT IS SUCH THAT THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WE NEED EXPERT PANELS AND THAT MIGHT GO TO SOMETHING THAT OTHER PEOPLE HER TALK ABOUT IS, IS, WELL, HOW DO WE ENGAGE CONTENT.

IF, IF WITHOUT THE CITY TELLING ARTISTS WHAT TO BE.

SO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES I'VE SEEN, THEY'LL DO THEY WILL HAVE CONTENT EXPERTS.

SO LET'S SAY THAT ANGELA, SHE SHE WAS ON THE HERS WAS A CERTAIN KIND OF WHATEVER MOON ROCKS AND THERE'S LIKE SO AND THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE EXPERIENCED

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WITH THAT. SO THEY WOULD THEY WOULD DIVIDE THE APPLICATIONS BASED ON WHAT THAT CONTENT IS. SO THEN HOW THOSE PANELS BREAK OUT IS THEN THEY GO BACK TO THE MAIN COMMISSION.

BUT YOU'D HAVE THE DANCE, YOU'D HAVE BREAK MY BUDGET. NOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT THAT 15. WE'RE REALLY WE COULDN'T ASK OTHER PEOPLE, BUT IT WOULD ALSO BE A GREAT WAY TO DO FUNNEL FOR FUTURE ARTS COMMISSION. AND PEOPLE AGREE TO, TO TO PARTICIPATE IN A COMMUNITY PANEL OR AN EXPERT PANEL.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED WITH THAT THAT I'VE HEARD CITY COUNCIL SAY FROM THE DAIS, I'VE TALKED TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS PERSONALLY IS LIKE, WELL, HOW DO YOU START TO JUDGE THE CONTENT? BECAUSE WITHOUT AN ARTS POLICY THAT SAYS WE DON'T LIKE FUNNY PICTURES OF PIGS. WE DON'T DON'T EVEN BRING IT.

BUT WHEN I WENT TO COLLEGE, ART WAS DEFINED AS WHATEVER PRESENTS ITSELF AS ART. SO HOW DO WE THEN THEREBY APPROACH IT? EXPERT PANELS IS ONE WAY TO DO IT.

DIVIDING THE BUDGETS, ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT.

WE HAVE 15 NOW. NEXT TIME, THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION PAY 115.

AND THEY MAY HAVE TO GIVE TIME TO RAMP UP. SO THAT'S SOMETHING. THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE TO TO LOOK TO. SO THEN ALL THE WHAT YOU DO IS ALL THOSE COMMUNITY PANELS WOULD THEN COME TO, TO THE ARTS COMMISSION AND YOU WOULD AND YOU WOULD DIVIDE IT UP WITHIN THE ARTS COMMISSION, WOULD LOOK AT THE FINAL REVIEWS OF THOSE PANELS, AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO THAT. THAT'S ONE WAY TO APPROACH IT, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, HOW DO WE JUDGE THE CONTENT OR SHOULD WE SEE SOMETHING IF THERE WERE IF THERE WERE 100 APPLICATIONS AND THEY ALL HAD A TWO MINUTE VIDEO? ANYWAY MARIANNE.

SO I THINK THE APPLICATION IS GOOD.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE FROM WHERE WE ARE TO CHANGE.

BUT TO ME, SO MANY OF THE ANSWERS WERE NOT SPECIFIC.

THEY WERE, OH, WE'VE GOT TO PUT SOME WORDS IN HERE.

AND A LOT OF THEM DIDN'T REALLY ANSWER WHAT YOU WERE ASKING.

AND SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO A SAMPLE AND SAY THIS IS GOOD, THIS IS BAD. YEAH. LIKE, YEAH.

LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE THE EYES, SOMETIMES IT'S FOR INFORMATION AND THEN THEY SHOW YOU A SAMPLE OF WHAT THEY WANT IN THAT SLOT.

YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT TOO.

AND THEN. BUT I THINK ANYBODY APPLYING SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO SOME SORT OF PRESENTATION VIDEO. IF IT'S A MUSICIAN, AN ARTIST A DANCER SPOKEN WORD, THAT WOULD BE. YEAH, BUT IT COULD BE THERE IF YOU WANT TO DO IT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK WE I THINK WE COULD HAVE IT, DO IT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO SEE IT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T WE ABILITY TO PRESENT OR.

NO, NO, NO. YOU LIKE TO NOT HAVE ANY.

NO I MEAN HAVING THEM LIKE SEND IN A VISUAL, THEY CAN SEND IN A I THOUGHT THEY COULD SEND IN A POWERPOINT OR SOMETHING. WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

WE SAID, OKAY, SO OKAY.

SO I JUST THINK THAT WELL, THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS, IS IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WHAT I LOVE ABOUT IT IS THAT WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM.

RIGHT. AND SO I JUST THINK THAT AS IT GROWS, WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON NOW. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE GROWTH, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE WHEN WE GET THERE.

I JUST THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS, IS THAT WE DON'T NEVER WANT TO BE PUT IN A POSITION WHERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO.

OUR GRANTS. I'VE BEEN ON, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, I DON'T KNOW, JUST DIFFERENT COLLEGE BOARDS WHERE SCHOLARSHIPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DON'T APPLY TO GRANTS OR SCHOLARSHIPS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY RULES THAT IT'S NOT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE, OKAY, I'LL GET IT, OR IT'S SO MUCH TIME TO PUT IT IN.

THERE'S NOTHING LIKE FILLING OUT AN RFP OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND YOU PUT LIKE 80 COMBINED HOURS INTO IT.

THEY DON'T EVEN TELL YOU WHETHER OR NOT IT OR NOT.

LIKE SO I JUST FEEL LIKE IS IS WE'RE OPENING A DOOR AND IT'S TO ENGAGE WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT IT IS NOT ONLY DID WE DO THAT, WE GAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN EXTENDED PART IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I LOVE THAT. AND SO I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, BUT I DO HAVE AN ANSWER OF THE FACT THAT I DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD PROBABLY PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF A GREAT PROPOSAL IF WE MAKE IT UP SO THAT THEY CAN GO THROUGH IT AND, AND THEY CAN SEE, OH, THIS IS WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE.

BUT HERE'S THE THING I WOULD BE MAKING UP.

WHAT WHAT IS THAT GREAT PROPOSAL? WHAT IS THE GREAT PROPOSAL? AND ARE YOU HAND-HOLDING THEM TO THE POINT OF HANDING OUT MONEY? IT'S JUST LIKE COFFEY THIS.

WELL, I DON'T THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE THEM. A I'M. I'M JUST SAYING SOMETHING SO SIMPLE. LIKE WHEN YOU.

THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THE VIDEO. I THINK LIKE THE VIDEO THAT JUST SAYS IT DOESN'T.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM A PROPOSAL.

I'M JUST SAYING IT'S GIVING THEM SOME, GIVING THEM SOME GUIDELINES AS THEY'RE PLAYING, LIKE, KEEP THIS IN MIND.

KEEP THAT IN MIND. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LONG. IT COULD BE LIKE ONE MINUTE LONG, TWO MINUTE LONG VERSUS THEM SAYING THIS TOO MANY. REMEMBER THAT WHEN WE GET TO ITEM 8CI WANT TO BRING THAT UP. SO SO YEAH, HERE'S THE THING.

I DEFINITELY WANT TO SOMEHOW WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS,

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HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW TO DO A C.

RIGHT. BUT. FORGIVE ME FOR THIS.

THE PHILOSOPHICAL, THE THE QUOTE UNQUOTE KUMBAYA OF THE WHOLE THING IS NOT GETTING ME TO A PLACE WHERE I CAN PREPARE A PRESENTATION, THAT I CAN GIVE THE INFORMATION SESSION SO THAT I CAN BENEFIT THE NEXT SET OF APPLICANTS. SO THOSE GUARDRAILS OF THIS WORKS.

THIS DOESN'T WORK. WE WANT TO SEE THIS.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS.

SO KNOWING THE ANSWERS NEED TO BE UNIQUE.

THEY HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE. BECAUSE GOING FORWARD, THE ARTS COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE IF YOU COPIED AND PASTED THE SAME ANSWER TO EACH ONE OF THEM, YOU'RE GOING TO GET DISCOUNTED ON THAT.

OR IF YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING VISUAL, IT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU A BENEFIT.

IF YOU PROVIDE A SAMPLE ARTWORK, A SKETCH.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, I LOVE THAT, LIKE THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S IT'S LIKE EVEN IF IT'S A SMALL VIDEO, JUST SAYING, HEY, LOOK, THIS IS WHAT YOUR BUDGET SHOULD LOOK LIKE. IT GOES UP ON THE SCREEN OR HEY, THIS IS IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE DOING A VISUAL, SOMETHING VISUAL, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE SOME OF YOUR WORK, LIKE LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY CAN HAVE AN ATTACHMENT AT THE END TO UPLOAD SOMETHING.

BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE LIKE HOLDING THESE PEOPLE'S GROW AND LIKE IF THEY WANT IT, THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT.

THEY NEED THEY COME TO US AND I'M GOING TO USE TIFFANY'S BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO GO INTO IT. I'M GONNA USE YOUR COMMENTS AS A SEGUE INTO THE RUBRIC AND THE GRANT INFORMATION SESSION. SO A LOT OF THESE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE POLICY HAS THAT WE DO SOME, SOME GREAT INFORMATION TO THE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE WEREN'T REALLY FAST. SO THERE'S NO TIME. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT EVERYTHING THAT THAT TIFFANY IS SAYING THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THERE NEEDS TO BE I VOLUNTEER TO DO TO TO HELP GET IT STARTED TO, TO, TO HELP CREATE.

IT IS BASICALLY THE ONLY FUNDING IN THE ARTS FUND IS HOT.

SO THEY HAVE TO PRESENT SOMETHING THAT'S HOT ELIGIBLE, THAT'S IT. SO THEY CAN HAVE A WONDERFUL ARTISTIC EXPERIENCE.

BUT IF IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HOT, IT DOESN'T MATTER NOW UNTIL THERE'S DIVERSIFICATION IN THE ARTS INTO THE ARTS FUND.

THAT'S ALL IT IS. SO WE COULD HAVE TWO SETS OF PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSIONS.

THERE CAN BE THROUGH A GRANT PROCESS.

THERE ARE COMMISSIONERS CITY STAFF CAN DECIDE, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO FREE INFO IN THE MORNING DURING THE DAY AND THEN WE'RE IN THE EVENING. SO THE CONTENT OF AN INFORMATION SERIES, A LOT OF TIMES WHAT THEY'LL DO IS LIKE, OKAY, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE GRANT MAKING PROCESS FIRST.

MAKE THEM CLEARLY AWARE OF WHAT THE GRANT MAKING PROCESS IS AND HOW THE, THE THE DECISIONS ARE MADE.

AND THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.

HI. BASED ON THE WAY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS OR WE'RE GOING TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, CITY COUNCIL DETERMINED. SO THERE CAN BE SOME INFORMATION AT THE BEGINNING WHERE THEY BASICALLY SAY YOUR APPLICATION RIGHT NOW, IT HAS TO IT HAS TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR.

SO AND THEN YOU CAN TALK ABOUT BUDGETS, WHAT IS RESPONSIBLE IN THE BUDGET, WHAT GOES INTO IT. AND SO YOU'RE ALLOWING YOU'RE ASSUMING THEY'RE LIKE TIFFANY SAYS THEY'RE ADULTS. THEY'RE IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HANDHOLD ANYONE THAT'S DOING AN APPLICATION TO US BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER PART OF IT, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME REPORTING WITHIN 45 DAYS. SO WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN THOSE REPORTS? SO THAT'S PART ALSO PART OF THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IS LIKE THIS IS HOW YOU HAVE TO APPLY.

AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO APPLY AND YOU ARE GOING TO GET AWARDED $3,000, YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPORT WITHIN FIVE DAYS. WHAT'S A GOOD REPORT? WHAT IS THE CITY COUNCIL GOING TO EXPECT? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SEE? NOW, AT THE VERY END OF IT, LET'S SAY THAT WE HAVE THERE'S THAT CAN BE THE PRE INFORMATION SERIES.

SO BEFORE SOMEONE CAN APPLY THEY CAN BE THEIR DECISION TO DECIDE SOME OF THOSE APPLICANTS.

I ACTUALLY THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE PULLED THEIR APPLICATION AND FUNDED AND APPLIED LATER ON. BUT A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT INTO IT.

THEY PROBABLY COULD HAVE GOTTEN SOME MORE MONEY IF THEY APPLIED DIFFERENTLY. SO THAT PART OF IT IS, WELL, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO APPLY? IS IT HOT ELIGIBLE? IF YOU DO GET THE MONEY, HOW ARE YOU GETTING? IS THAT PART OF IT? THEN AT THE END OF IT THAT THE ARTS COMMISSION CAN ACTUALLY DO SOME OF THAT? CONGRATULATIONS.

YOU ARTS COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED TO CITY COUNCIL.

YOU CAN PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL IF YOU WANT TO. THEY PRESENT COUNCIL. CONGRATULATIONS.

YOU'VE BEEN APPROVED AND SUCH AND SUCH DAYS ARE MANY.

AND THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. COUNT DOWN TO IT. AND AND THERE CAN BE A PUBLIC AND THERE CAN BE A PUBLIC INTERACTION WORKSHOP.

IT CAN BE SOMETHING ON VIDEO.

THEN THEREAFTER, I ALSO THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ARTS TO, TO HELP SAFEGUARD THE CITY. WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF ONUS ON INDIVIDUAL APPLICANTS TO HELP MAKE SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE HOUSING. AND AND THAT'S PART OF THE REQUIREMENT.

BUT WHAT THE ARTS COMMISSION COULD HELP THEM. COULD THE ARTS COMMISSION NEGOTIATE THOSE STAYS IN THE HOTELS? COULD THE ART COMMISSION NEGOTIATE ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH TOURISM AND ARTS PROMOTION?

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BECAUSE REALLY, THESE APPLICANTS, THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF ARTS PROMOTION, THEIR BUSINESS OF CREATING ART, BUT BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO US, THEY'RE HAVING TO TO STEP UP AND FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.

SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING A FUTURE ARTS COMMISSION CAN DO. THEY CAN NEGOTIATE THE HOTELS, THEY CAN NEGOTIATE WITH THE TRANSIT PEOPLE.

THEY CAN CREATE ALL THE LITTLE BLURBS THAT THEY SEND OUT TO THEIR NETWORKS AND SAY SO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COMPLIANT.

SO ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT, BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO ASKING INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS TO DO THE WORK OF ARTS ORGANIZATIONS.

SO WE HAD APPLIED, WE HAD INDIVIDUAL WE HAD INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS AND WE HAD ARTS ORGANIZATIONS. WE'RE PUTTING THE SAME ONUS ON THEM.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT FUTURE ARTS COMMISSION COULD CONSIDER IS DOING SOME OF THAT DOING. IT'S OUR JOB TO PROMOTE THE ARTS IN THE CITY.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY APPLICANTS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE COMPLIANT, BUT ULTIMATELY THAT'S OUR JOB, NOT THEIRS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

SO FOR ALEX, HE'S GOTTA HE'S GOTTA HAVE HE'S GOING TO HAVE AN OPEN GRANT IN JUST A FEW DAYS. IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE APPLICATION THAT YOU WANT HIM TO CHANGE OR TO AMEND? I CAN'T CHANGE THE APPLICATION.

I CAN'T CHANGE THE POLICY WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO HOW DOES.

YEAH. AND SORRY. WELL, JUST TO THINK ABOUT HOW YOU MIGHT PRESENT IT TO THE ARTS COMMISSION.

SO INSTEAD OF MULTIPLE COPIES, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF US WERE AT HOME PRINTING ALL THESE THINGS OUT, MARKING THEM.

AND THEN WE GOT HERE AND YOU HAD THIS STACK OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU MAKE ONE COPY OF ALL THE APPLICATIONS AND MAKE A LITTLE BOOKLET FOR EACH OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AND IT'S IN A CERTAIN ORDER, BY GENRE OR BY SOME ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.

AND MAYBE IT HAS QUESTIONS IN PLACE FOR OUR NOTES, A RUBRIC OR EVEN QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD FILL OUT IN ADVANCE SO THAT WHEN WE COME TO THE MEETING, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ORGANIZED TO GO THROUGH IN THAT ORDER WITH THOSE QUESTIONS, WITH THOSE WITH AND BRING OUR BOOKLET WITH US, NOT COPY IT MULTIPLE TIMES ON MULTIPLE PRINTERS.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE GOTTEN OUT OF THIS SO FAR IS AT LEAST A PACKAGE PACKETS READY A WEEK FOR THE REVIEW DATE, JUST AS AN FYI, THOSE WERE AN ORDER.

AND THEN YOU GUYS SWITCHED ONE AND IT THREW THE WHOLE THING.

WELL, THEN THERE WAS ONE CONFUSION WHERE THEY THEY HAD PUT TWO APPLICATIONS IN ONE.

REMEMBER THAT WE HAD SOME BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THIS ONE GROUP THAT WHEN WE WERE CONFUSED, I HAD PUT AN ORDER BASED ON EVENT NAME.

BUT THEN, YEAH, YOU YOU DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THREE DIFFERENT OR THREE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS AND CONFUSED THEM.

BUT I TRIED TO ORGANIZE THEM BASED ON EVENT NAME BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT MADE THEM ALL UNIQUE. EACH ONE HAD A DIFFERENT NAME.

ANGELA, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK YEAH, OKAY. I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY ON THIS, BUT AFTER GOING TO CITY HALL MEETING AND SEEING PEOPLE DO THE TWO MINUTE PRESENTATIONS, I LIKE THE WAY ALEX SET IT UP AND I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM IF I WAS ON A FUTURE COMMISSION, AT LEAST HAVING THE PEOPLE COME IN AND DO A QUICK TWO MINUTE THING, THEY CAN DO IT. THEY CAN SIT HERE WITH THE REST OF THEM OR THEY LEAVE? BUT WHEN WE GET TO THE DISCUSSION PART, WE DO ALMOST LIKE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION OR WHATEVER, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM.

I THOUGHT IT WAS NICE ACTUALLY, BECAUSE I WAS ONE THAT DIDN'T WANT TO COME IN AT FIRST, BUT WHEN I SAW IT, I LIKED IT.

HE'S GOING TO TELL YOU WE CAN DO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. WELL, I KNOW, BUT I JUST SAW HIM RAISE HIS HAND. I'M JUST SAYING I KNOW WHAT HE'S DOING. I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S. I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE APPLICATION, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE DO FUND SOMETHING AND IT'S APPROVED, IF THERE'S IF THERE'S ENOUGH TIME THAT WHEN THEY DO ANY OF THE MARKETING THAT THEY SHOULD SAY FUNDING IN PART BY THE ARTS COMMISSION.

SHE BROUGHT UP A VALID THING.

SO THE LETTERS THAT WENT OUT, THEY CAN HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN PUTTING THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE OR THE ARTS COMMISSION LOGO IN THERE.

SHOULD WE, LIKE, TELL THEM ARTS COMMISSION LOGO? AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS BECAUSE THE MARKETING AND THE ARTS COMMISSION, BECAUSE ONE OF THE LETTERS, I THINK THE LETTERS I WAS READING, IT SAID THAT THEY HAD TO INCLUDE EITHER THE LOGO, CITY LOGO FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION, BUT THEY HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO EITHER OR.

I'D ALSO ASK THAT THEY SEND THE PROMOTION OR NOTIFY US SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST PROMOTE IT ON THE ARTS FACEBOOK SITE OR SOCIAL MEDIA, BECAUSE WE WERE FUNDING SOME OF THIS.

SO WE PUT ON THE CALENDAR AND NOTIFIED IN ADVANCE.

AND I ALSO THINK THAT WHEN WE DO GET FUNDING TO SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES,

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JUST A LITTLE KNOW, I THINK SOME OF THE ART COMMISSION SHOULD ATTEND AND THEY CAN TALK AMONGST THEMSELVES. SHOULD ATTEND THE EVENTS.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE APPROVING AND FUNDING AND SUPPORTING THIS, WE SHOULD, WITH ADVANCE NOTICE, SUPPORT THE EVENT.

FOR INSTANCE, I NOTICED THAT THE YOUNG LADY THAT WAS DOING THE THING WHEN SHE DID HER PRESENTATION TO THE CITY, HERS WAS ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

AND TWO OF THOSE SO SHE'S ALREADY HAD HER EVENT TECHNICALLY.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN IT THAT FAST.

UNLESS SHE WAS HAVING. UNLESS SHE WAS HAVING ANOTHER ONE. BUT I KNOW SHE HAD IT WHEN SHE WAS PROMOTING IT. IT WAS LIKE, I THINK SHE'S HAVING ANOTHER ONE.

OKAY. BECAUSE SHE WAS IT WAS LIKE A WEEK OR TWO LATER THAT SHE WAS HAVING IT BECAUSE SHE CALLED AND LEFT A MESSAGE AT THE THEATER ABOUT WANTING TO USE THE THEATER. OF COURSE WE DON'T. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT. OH, OKAY. BUT I KNOW THAT TO SAY THAT I THINK SHE'S PLANNING TO DO IT. OKAY.

BECAUSE YEAH. BECAUSE WHEN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WENT TO.

SO ANYWAYS THOSE ARE MY MY AND MY APOLOGIES.

I JUST SKIPPED OVER YOU TWO AT THE END.

IT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE THE CITY AND OUR COMMISSION LOGO MUST APPEAR ON ALL MARKETING.

SO THAT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR ELIGIBILITY.

CAN WE GIVE THEM A COMBINED LOGO WHERE THE CITY AND THE ARTS COMMISSION LOGO IS NEXT TO EACH OTHER, AND THEY CAN USE THAT ONE. I CAN CREATE ONE.

SOLVING A PROBLEM. QUICK THINKING.

MARIANNE. SO I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO TELL THEM THERE ARE THREE KEY SPECIFICITY SPECIFICITY. SPECIFICITY.

DON'T BE USING THOSE LITTLE CATCH PHRASES THAT THEY THAT AND I CAN'T I SHOULD HAVE AN EXAMPLE I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT EVERY ONE OF THEM WOULD HAVE SOMETHING.

THEY WEREN'T REALLY ANSWERING THE QUESTION, BUT THEY HAD THOSE LITTLE POPULAR CATCH WORDS SO I CAN SAY SPECIFICITY THREE TIMES THAT CLOSE TOGETHER.

IT'S A RULE FOR US. ONE OTHER HAND.

SO ALEX, WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED FROM US? I KNOW THAT PROBABLY YOU PROBABLY ALL DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT A RUBRIC TONIGHT.

SO MAYBE SOME SAMPLES COULD BE GIVEN TO ME OR SENT TO ME FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

AND WE CAN TRY TO. EACH ONE OF YOU MAYBE SEND ME 1 OR 2 RUBRICS WHO HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THIS AND SAY, I LIKE THIS, I HATE THIS.

MAYBE I CAN TRY TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT I CAN BRING FOR YOU TO ADOPT FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION, AT THE NEXT MEETING, SO WE CAN GET THAT PART OUT OF THE WAY.

AND THEN I BELIEVE YOU SAID TODAY YOU WERE GOING TO HELP ME CREATE THE EDUCATION, THE INFORMATION SESSION.

YES. SO I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT BEFORE THIS NEXT.

GRANT CYCLE. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T DO IT BEFORE THE BEFORE IT'S DONE.

SO THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN BE LIKE, HOLD OUT AND DECIDE TO WAIT FOR IT.

BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE THINGS THAT CAME UP DURING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT ARE GOING TO REQUIRE CHANGES TO THE POLICY.

SO ONE OF THOSE IS WHEN THE THING NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE, WHATEVER IT IS, THE ARTWORK, THE EVENT, WHEN IT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.

IF SOMEBODY IS NOT SITTING ON MONEY FOR A PROLONGED AMOUNT OF TIME THAT CAME UP, THAT WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL POLICY.

SO YES, AND HE BROUGHT THAT UP AND I REMEMBERED THAT ONE.

AND I CAME LOOKED IN IT AND THERE WAS A DATE.

HER HERS WAS THE FIRST PART OF NOVEMBER ASKING ABOUT THE PAUSE THING.

OH, OKAY. YEAH. AND I, I CAME BACK AND LOOKED AT IT BECAUSE I MENTIONED THAT SHE DID HAVE A DATE ON THERE, AND HER DATE WAS UP FOR THAT GROUP WAS IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THOUGHT THAT THEY GOT THE GRANT, BUT THAT IT LOOKED LIKE THEY HAD NO IDEA WHAT TIME OR WHEN SHE WAS GOING TO DO IT.

AND I THOUGHT THAT THEY ALL HAD TO HAPPEN IN THAT TIME PERIOD, TOO. AND HERS WAS NOVEMBER, THE ONE THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE LITTLE DOG PAINTING, A POSITIVE PAINTING, POSITIVE PAINTING. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY, THOUGH, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE POLICY OR IN THE APPLICATION THAT SAYS SO FOR THE SINGLE PROJECT SUPPORT GRANT WINDOW IS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE TO USE THE FUNDING BECAUSE, AGAIN, THEY ARE GETTING THE MONEY IN ADVANCE.

I WILL SAY THAT ME I BASICALLY AM I'M I'M PROCESSING THESE PAYMENTS AGAINST

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NOTHING. SO KNOWING THAT THERE IS A PLACE WHERE US HAS TO GET DONE WITHIN THIS AMOUNT OF TIME WOULD GIVE ME SOMETHING TO TARGET, SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD FOR.

I MADE A WHOLE SPREADSHEET WHERE I HAVE WHERE THEY SAY THE EVENT IS TAKE PLACE AND KNOW THAT 45 DAYS, WITHIN 45 DAYS OF THAT, I NEED TO BE RECEIVING A REPORT, OR I NEED TO SAY THEY'RE NO LONGER ELIGIBLE OR THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A YEAR.

THEY CAN'T REAPPLY FOR A YEAR.

SO THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME UP DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT I KNOW. I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED THAT THAT WAS LIKE THAT.

WE DID DISCUSS THAT THERE WAS NO DATE FOR THAT EVENT, FOR THAT ACTIVITY. LIKE I REMEMBER HE SAID HE DIDN'T SEE IT THERE, BUT IT WAS THERE. IT WAS THERE.

YEAH, OKAY. IT WAS LIKE THE 1ST NOVEMBER.

SOMETHING WAS NOVEMBER.

SHE DID THE DATE THERE.

OKAY. I PREPARED FOR A LOT OF THINGS THAT NIGHT.

THEY WILL ALWAYS TRY THAT THEY DIDN'T PREPARE FOR.

THAT KIND OF THING. I REMEMBER OKAY.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS HE GETS READY FOR SEPTEMBER? OKAY. WITH THAT IT IS.

ANYTHING ELSE? OH, YEAH.

THERE'S A DATE. OKAY. OH, SORRY.

THERE YOU GO. I DO HAVE ONE MORE THING.

DON'T FORGET. NOW, THEY NEVER HAD A A CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION BEFORE, BUT THEY HAVE ONE NOW, SO WE NEED TO ALL BE THERE.

ACTUALLY, I HAVE, THEY JUST HAVEN'T DONE IT LATELY.

RIGHT. THEY USED TO HAVE A GOOD ONE.

NO NO, NO. YEAH. THAT'S THREE YEARS.

OH THAT'S GREAT. YEAH.

ALRIGHT. IT IS 845. MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

YAY!

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.