[CALL TO ORDER]
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          WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION REGULAR BOARD MEETING. AND THE TIME IS 605. THIS IS SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2025. WE HAVE CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER. WE HAVE A QUORUM. AND SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE PRESENTATION. AND IF YOU'LL STAND, I'LL TAKE CARE. GOD. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE LIFT UP YOUR NAME, WE MAGNIFY YOU. AND WE ARE THANKFUL THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US TO BRING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO THE CITY. WE THANK YOU, DEAR GOD, FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD LEAD, GUIDE AND DIRECT OUR THOUGHTS, THAT YOU WOULD SHOW US THE WAY AND THAT YOU WOULD HELP US TO DO DECISIONS THAT WILL BENEFIT THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. FOR THIS WE ASK, IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. OKAY. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY MISTER MARLIN GOFF TO THE TEXAS FLAG AND THE UNITED STATES. FLAG IN REVERSE ORDER. OKAY. FIRST PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES. FLAG. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. AND NOW, THE TEXAS PLEDGE. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU. MAY BE SEATED. THANK YOU. MISTER. SO. MARCELLA. YES, SIR. THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS SUBMITTED. THAT TAKES US TO CITIZEN'S PUBLIC FORUM. 
          EVERYBODY'S GOT OTHER THINGS TO DO, APPARENTLY. SO WE WILL DISPENSE WITH THAT. THAT BRINGS 
          [2. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES FOR THE FOLLOWING DCEDC MEETINGS: 1. JULY 9, 2025 2. JULY 28, 2025 3. AUGUST 7, 2025 4. AUGUST 25, 2025 5. SEPTEMBER 8, 2025]
US TO APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES FOR THE FOLLOWING DC EDC MEETINGS JULY 9TH JULY 28TH, AUGUST 7TH, 25TH AND SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2025. I GUESS I'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF. YES. I GUESS, BRANDON, YOU NEED TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL MOTIONS TO APPROVE THESE MEETING MINUTES. IF YOU GUYS HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM IN YOUR PACKET, I'M HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, DEFER TO ENTERTAIN MOTIONS, I GUESS, FOR YOUR APPROVAL. CORRECT. YOU CAN HAVE A MOTION FOR EACH MEETING, OR YOU CAN HAVE ONE MOTION FOR ALL ALL FIVE MEETINGS IF NO ONE'S GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM ANY. 
          AND THAT THAT IS THE KEY IS, IS EVERYBODY IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN CAN I MISS ONE? YOU MISS ONE. YES. ALRIGHT, WELL WE'LL GO MEETING BY MEETING. SURE. OKAY. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE JULY 9TH MEETING MINUTES. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? LET'S DO A VOICE VOTE. OKAY. ABNEY. AYE. BROUGHTON. HIGH. HARVEY. HIGH. PAYNE. HIGH. 
          SAVAGE. THOMPSON. HIGH. ZILKA. HIGH. OKAY. THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          JULY 28TH MINUTES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE JULY 28TH, 2025. MEETING MINUTES. A SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT. PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. LET'S HAVE A VOICE VOTE. THOMPSON, A. ABNEY, A BROUGHTON. ABSTAIN. ZYLKA A. PAYNE, A HARVEY A. IT IS. OKAY. THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A 
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MOTION TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 7TH, 2020 FIVE MINUTES. MOVE FOR APPROVAL. THE AUGUST 7TH, 2025 MEETING MINUTES. SECOND, I SECOND. ALL RIGHT. PROPERLY SECONDED. VOICE VOTE. THOMPSON A ABNEY. A BROUGHTON A ZYLKA A PAYNE, A HARVEY. HI. CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 25TH, 2020 FIVE MINUTES. FOR SECTIONS OF THE AUGUST 25TH, 2025 MEETING MINUTES. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND? ALL RIGHT. PROPERLY MOVE THE SECOND. WE HAVE ANOTHER VOICE VOTE. THOMPSON. OH, SORRY. WHICH THE 22ND? 25TH? 25TH. WHERE WAS I DOING THE VOTE? QUESTION ABOUT THE MINUTES. THERE WAS A MEETING IN WHICH I THINK YOU CAME OVER. 
          DID YOU DID YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT THAT NIGHT TO DO AN INTERVIEW FOR THIS? NO NO NO, NO. SO YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT LISTED ON IT. IT SAYS I WASN'T THERE DURING THE VOTE, WHICH I, WHICH I, IT SAYS COMP PLAN APPROVAL. SUPPORTING THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE CONFERENCE. WAS IT ITEM NUMBER THREE? ACTION ITEM FOR THE. 25TH. APPROVE. THE CHANGES. CORRECTIONS AND CHANGES. OH, MAYBE. NO. YES. YOU JUST STEPPED OUT INTO THE HALL FOR A BIT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MISSED A VOTE. AND IT WASN'T LETTING GO TO AN INTERVIEW. IT WAS THE. IT WAS AT THE. YEAH, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN A VOTE. WE HAD A BREAK. MOTION. WAS IT WAS IT SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON OR IS IT JUST SOMETHING DIFFERENT THERE? IF THERE ARE ANY CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM, SUBJECT TO THOSE CORRECTIONS BE MADE TO THOSE MEETING MINUTES TO HAVE AN ACCURATE RECORD OF WHAT TRANSPIRED ON THAT EVENING. 
          IF THE BOARD IS COMFORTABLE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION. OTHERWISE, WE CAN GO BACK, MAKE THEM AND BRING THEM BACK AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING. IT'S IF THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THE MINUTES AND YOU'RE CONFIDENT ON WHAT TO CHANGE IT TO. WE CAN DO THAT. 
          IF THAT WOULD GO REVIEW THE I MEAN CONTACT, RIGHT? YES. WE CAN MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES. 
          WE CAN WE CAN REVIEW THE VIDEO WITH THE WHERE IT SAYS I WASN'T PRESENT, I DON'T KNOW. WHEN I WAS GONE. IS IT OKAY? CAN WE HAVE THIS ITEM REMOVED. OKAY. MOVE ON TO THE NEXT. OKAY. 
          POSTPONE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU. THE AUGUST 25TH MOTION. YEAH, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. SO? SO WHO MADE THE MOTION? I MADE THE MOTION. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION AND MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT ITEM TO THE NEXT. YOU CAN DO THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AFTER FURTHER INVESTIGATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE. OKAY, SO. DO WE NEED A SECOND FOR HIS WITHDRAWAL? I SECOND. THANK YOU. SECOND ITEM IS OFFICIALLY WITHDRAWN. WILL BE PRESENTED AT THE NEXT MEETING. YES. JUST TO CLEAN UP AND GET A VOTE ON THE MOTION TO TABLE. VOTE ON A MOTION TO TABLE THIS. THIS. MY VOICE VOTE. THOMPSON A. ABNEY A, BROUGHTON A, ZILKHA, A PAYNE A HARVEY. SO THEN THAT TAKES US TO SEPTEMBER 8TH. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THAT BEFORE WE 
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PROCEED WITH THE VOTE? MOTION. ALL RIGHT. CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. SEPTEMBER 8TH MEETING. SEPTEMBER 18TH, SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. MISS MARCELLA. THOMPSON, A HIGH BROUGHTON. HIGH. SILICA A PAYNE. 
          ABSTAIN. OH. I'M SORRY. I'M ABSTAIN. HOW WAS IT HERE THAT DAY? SO I WAS JUST ABSTAIN. I WAS CHECKING SO WE HAVE FOUR. OKAY. THAT'S ENOUGH. HARVEY. OKAY, SO THAT PASSES. NEXT ITEM 
          [3. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS]
ON THE AGENDA IS. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS. ANYONE HAVE ANY THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE? FOR THE GOOD OF THE ART. DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? WELL, I JUST WANT TO APPLAUD STAFF FOR THE HISPANIC HERITAGE FESTIVAL. IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. I, I KNOW THEY ALL WORKED HARD OUT THERE AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE. HARD WORK AND EFFORTS AND SACRIFICING THEIR SATURDAY TO WORK HERE AT DUNCANVILLE. I APPRECIATE THAT AND ALL THE STAFF. AND I'D LIKE TO ECHO THAT TOO. I SAW THE EDC STAFF WORKING SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, SERVING FOOD AND DRINKS, AND OUR ILLUSTRIOUS DIRECTOR WAS SERVING UP A MEAN PINEAPPLE. HOW MUCH TO DRINK? ABOUT FOUR OF THOSE THINGS. 
          ALRIGHT. I WAS HAPPY TO REFILL. NO, NO DOUBT THEY HAD SMILES ON THEIR FACE AND THEY WERE JUST 
          [4. DIRECTORS’ REPORT]
SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE HAPPY TO BE THERE. OKAY. WITH THAT BEING DONE, LET'S MOVE TO DIRECTOR'S REPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE HAVE A NEW AGAIN. EXCUSE ME, A NEW EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT. CHARMAINE LANE, HAS JOINED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM. TODAY IS HER FIRST DAY. AND WE ASKED IF. IF SHE WOULD BE SO KIND ENOUGH TO JOIN US THIS EVENING AND AND MEET YOU AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO MEET HER. AND IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU GET EMAILS FOR FROM MISS LANE, YOU WILL KNOW THAT SHE'S WITH US AND THAT SHE IS HELPING WITH THE COORDINATION OF THE MEETINGS, THE MATERIAL, EVERYTHING THAT GOES, GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES FOR A SMOOTH AND FLAWLESS MEETING FOR YOU. 
          AND I ASK A QUESTION. YES. SO WELCOME. THANK YOU. AND SO I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED AS TO WHERE YOU WILL BE SITTING, BECAUSE THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, EVERY VACANT SPACE IN THAT VERY SMALL AREA THAT WAS THERE WAS TAKEN UP BY A PERSON. AND SO WHERE WILL YOU BE HONEST? SHE IS. SHE WILL BE SITTING IN HER WORKSTATION WILL BE WHERE MISS MURRAY WAS WORKING BEFORE. AND I SAY IT WAS BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN TRANSFERRED OVER TO ADMINISTRATION AND SHE'S HELPING THEM OUT FOR A FEW WEEKS. THAT PROMOTION, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PROMOTION, THAT TRANSFER OVER. I WASN'T INVOLVED WITH THOSE DETAILS. OH, OKAY. BECAUSE MY INTERNSHIP CONTINUES NOW JUST WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I JUST I JUST YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE CREDIT FOR HER ASCENSION. WELL, WE WILL MAKE SURE WE RELAY THAT INFORMATION TO OTHER MEMBERS OF ADMINISTRATION. OKAY. I'M SORRY I INTERRUPTED YOU. NO, NO, I WAS AGAIN, I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THE NEW TEAM MEMBER. ALSO, PLEASE ASK IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, TO PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ATTEND THIS. THIS WEEK'S BOARD AND COMMISSION APPRECIATION EVENTS. AND ALSO, IF YOU HAVEN'T LET US KNOW ALREADY, TO PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. CASINO NIGHT ON OCTOBER 11TH SO WE CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY. BASED ON THE LAST 
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MEETING WE HAD OBTAINED DIRECTION TO SECURE TO TABLES, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE HOW MANY WE CAN FILL, HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE ABLE TO ATTEND, AND IF NOT, FIND INDIVIDUALS FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO ATTEND IN LIEU OF THOSE MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND. SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S FULL TABLES AND COMPLETE REPRESENTATION. THAT IS ALL THIS EVENING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF US HAVING A BIKE TEAM FOR THE BIKE RACE? AND I PUT THAT OUT THERE. THAT IS ALSO PART THE PINK DIAMONDS WITH US. THAT IS. A CONFERENCE IN THE MORNING. YES, IN THE MORNING. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A BIKE TEAM? WE CAN, IF THAT IS, THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD. WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT ONE TOGETHER. WHO HAS BIKES I DON'T KNOW, YOU GOT A BIKE? I HAVE A BIKE TEAM. I DO, BUT I'LL BE OUT OF TOWN. IT'S GOING TO BE OUT OF TOWN. MR. I'M ALLERGIC. I THINK WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT BIKE, AND I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY MAKE AN ACTIVE EFFORT TO HAVE A PRESENCE THERE. 
          AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO ENCOURAGE US SOMEHOW TO PARTICIPATE. I WILL SAY, MR. ZYLKA, THAT THAT I WILL BE THERE BECAUSE THERE IS ALSO A. HEALTH FAIR. YES. OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU CAN'T DO THE BIKE RIDE, BUT LIKE ME, YOU CAN DO THE HEALTH FAIR AND WE SHOULD AT THE PUBLIC CAN DEPEND ON YOU TO SERVE OUT YOUR TERM. YOU WON'T KEEL OVER AND WE HAVE TO FIND SOMEBODY ELSE SO HEALTHY. OKAY, SO. WE ARE TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WE HAVE NO ITEMS ON THAT ACTION ITEMS. ITEMS ON THAT. BRIEFINGS AND PRESENTATIONS. NO ITEMS ON THAT. 
          WE ARE PRETTY QUICKLY. SO THAT BRINGS US TO EIGHT OTHER BUSINESS EIGHT A DISCUSSION AND 
          [8.a. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE BOARD ACTION TO APPROVE DRAFT DCEDC STRATEGIC PLAN]
POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE DRAFT DC EDC STRATEGIC PLAN STATUTE. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. 
          VICTOR BARRERA, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. THIS IS A PICK UP WHERE WE LEFT OFF ITEM, IF YOU WILL, FROM THE LAST MEETING, IF YOU WILL. ON SEPTEMBER THE 8TH, THE BOARD WAS ASKED TO REVIEW THE DRAFT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WAS PUT IN IN YOUR PACKET AND PROVIDE US WITH YOUR COMMENTS. STAFF DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. SO WITH STAFF DID WAS THEY CONDUCTED A COMPLETE REVIEW OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE DEPARTMENTAL WORK PLAN, AND THEY INCORPORATED UPDATES TO STRENGTHEN THE ALIGNMENT, CLARITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE PLAN FOR THE FOR THE DC EDC AS WELL AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF. AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET IS THE INTEGRATION OF THE WORK PLAN, BASED OFF OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE'VE LAID OUT. WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET IS A RED LINE VERSION OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET AT THE LAST MEETING. WE'VE EXPANDED OUR GOALS TO A TOTAL OF SEVEN, INCLUDING WORKFORCE. WE HAD SOME CHANGES. WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE TOURISM, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, WHAT YOU WILL SEE AS AN ADDED ITEM HERE IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE'VE STRENGTHENED THE BRT OR THE BUSINESS RETENTION EXPANSION PROGRAM. WE INCLUDED SURVEYS, ROUNDTABLES AND A DIRECTORY. WE'VE INCLUDED A REDEVELOPMENT STRATEGY AND ACTUALLY PROVIDED DEFINITION TO THE AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CONCENTRATING DOWNTOWN. WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SURPLUS PROPERTY AND ADAPTIVE REUSE OF OF OF VACANT BUILDINGS. WE LOOKED AT SMALL BUSINESS AND ENTREPRENEURIAL SHIPS, INCLUDING INCUBATOR OPPORTUNITIES AND EXPANDED, EXPANDED OPPORTUNITIES FOR GRANTS. BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, WE'RE LOOKING AT TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. WE'RE LOOKING AT ESTABLISHING THROUGH THIS PLAN MATRIX DASHBOARD REPORTING. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THROUGH THIS, WE'RE ALSO PAYING ATTENTION TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EVENTS AND HAVING A STRUCTURED CALENDAR, SPONSORSHIPS, AND REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT OUR ROI. SO THIS EVENING'S ACTION REQUESTED IS WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE ONE FINAL CHECK IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND DEPARTMENTAL WORK PLAN. AGAIN, WHAT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET IS THE RED LINE VERSION OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THE LAST PRESENTATION. WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU TO PROVIDE US ANY FINAL COMMENTS AND IF YOU'RE OKAY 
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WITH WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, WE ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE ADOPTION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. SO IS THERE 1 OR 2 THINGS THAT MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE THAT WILL BE A POSSIBILITY FOR US MOVING FORWARD? YEAH. SO I LAID THAT OUT. AS FAR AS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S A MULTIYEAR STRATEGY. IT'S TOO MUCH TO DO ONE YEAR. BUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT STARTING OFF WITH ESTABLISHING AND FOSTERING RELATIONSHIPS WITH EXISTING BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY DOING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND TRYING TO GET THOSE THOSE GROUPS TOGETHER AND NETWORK MORE AND COLLABORATE MORE, AND THEN TALK ABOUT NEXT LEVEL, TALKING ABOUT ESTABLISHING A RELATIONSHIP WITH DUNCANVILLE ISD, DALLAS COUNTY, DALLAS COLLEGE, ETC. AND THEN EXPANDING UPON THAT. 
          BUT REALLY, RIGHT NOW WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT FIRST YEAR IS ESTABLISHING AND FOSTERING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENTS ALREADY IN THE COMMUNITY ALREADY IN PLACE, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ADVERTISING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND COLLABORATING WITH WITH DUNCANVILLE ISD, ANY, ANY POSSIBILITY OF PARTNERING AT SOME LEVEL WITH THE CHAMBER TO ASSIST IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. AFTER ALL, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THE DUNCANVILLE, I.S.D AND DALLAS COLLEGE. AND SO. I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THERE A VISION FOR PARTICIPATION FROM THE CHAMBER? AT SOME LEVEL, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE, TO COLLABORATE AND WORK TOGETHER ON THAT COLLABORATION AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT THERE ISN'T A REDUNDANCY OF EFFORTS. BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. AGAIN, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHECK IN AGAIN TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, FEEDBACK, SUGGESTIONS THAT WE COULD USE TO GO BACK AND MAKE NECESSARY SOME ADDITIONAL MODIFICATIONS OR OR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN SO THAT WE CAN BRING IT FORWARD FOR FORMAL ADOPTION. AND THEN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO BRING IT TO CITY COUNCIL. AND THAT ESTABLISHES OUR QUOTE UNQUOTE, OUR WORK PLAN FOR THE CORPORATION, BUT ALSO THE WORK PLAN FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM. ANY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. BARRERA CONCERNING THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? I'M SORRY, JUST ONE CONSIDERATION. UNDER 20 2526 WORK PLAN FOR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES AND ACTIONS UNDER BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION. WOULD YOU CONSIDER, IN LIEU OF DEVELOPING AN ONLINE BUSINESS DIRECTORY? IF WE PROVIDE SOME FORM OF TRAINING OR SERVICE OR WORKSHOPS FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO OPTIMIZE THEIR SEARCH ENGINE SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION SO THAT WE'RE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO FIND THEM, RATHER THAN CREATING A SEPARATE DIRECTORY THAT PEOPLE MAY OR MAY NOT GO TO. YES, WE'RE OPEN TO THAT. THE REASON THAT THE DIRECTORY IS THERE IS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN REQUESTED BY SOME COUNCIL FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER A DIRECTORY COUNCIL, AND WE HAVE IT ALREADY ESTABLISHED AS A DEPARTMENTAL WORK PLAN. SO WE'RE JUST MEMORIALIZING THAT REQUEST, IF YOU WILL. BUT CAN WE EXPAND ON THAT. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO SOLICIT THE BOARD'S FEEDBACK. I APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM COUNCIL. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT PEOPLE OFTENTIMES DON'T GO TO THESE DIRECTORIES. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EFFORT THE STAFF IS PUTTING IN TO DO THIS IS ACTUALLY EFFORT THAT GOES TO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT. SO I, I WOULD CHALLENGE THAT A LITTLE BIT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE EVALUATING. WE HAVE WE HAVE AN AVAILABLE TOOL THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE AS A RESOURCE TO BUSINESSES. WITH THIS TOOL. A BUSINESS DIRECTORY IS JUST ONE OF THE FEATURES. AND WE INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH BLUE DOT, WHICH IS THE COMPANY THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO HIRE, ACTUALLY NOT LOOKING TO HIRE. WE ALREADY HIRED TO ASSIST US WITH THE WITH THE BUSINESS DIRECTORY AND ADDITIONAL TOOLS THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO US AS PART OF THE SERVICE TO HELP THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. WE JUST HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM LAST WEEK ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT HAVE AVAILABLE FOR BUSINESSES. MR. OH, GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST CURIOUS, VICTOR, DOES BLUE DOT KIND OF HAVE THAT CAPABILITY TO WORK WITH SEARCH ENGINES TO, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN KIND OF DO DO BOTH TRACKS WHERE WE NOT ONLY CREATE THE DIRECTORY, BUT MAYBE BLUE DOT IS ABLE TO ASSIST US WITH, WITH THE SEARCH ENGINES TO BEEF UP, YOU KNOW, LOCAL BUSINESSES. I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. BROUGHTON, IN REFERENCE TO WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING. IS IT MORE OF A TRAINING FOR BUSINESSES AND HOW TO OPTIMIZE THEIR OWN SEARCH ONLINE PRESENCE? I THINK SO, YEAH. AND I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD DEFINITELY BE 
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INCORPORATED IN MAYBE A MARKETING 101 WORKSHOP, WHICH THAT IS IN WHAT SOME OF THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE, IS ESTABLISHING SMALL BUSINESS WORKSHOPS TO HELP EDUCATE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ON SOME OF THE WAYS THAT THEY CAN OPTIMIZE THEIR ONLINE PRESENCE. GET OUT THERE AND YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT WAYS OF MARKETING AT LOW COST OR EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT WAYS. 
          BLUE DOT I KNOW BECAUSE I'VE SPOKEN WITH REPRESENTATIVE, THERE'S A CASH BACK REWARDS PROGRAM THAT THEY OFFER, AND WITH THIS PROGRAM IT WOULD ESTABLISH A CRM FOR OUR DEPARTMENT SO THAT IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY GIVE US A PLATFORM TO BE ABLE TO DOCUMENT ALL THE VISITS WE'RE HAVING WITH BUSINESSES, EMAILS BEING SENT. SO IT'S AN ALL IN ONE, AND THAT'S JUST A FEATURE OF THE SYSTEM. AND THAT'S A BENEFIT WHICH TECHNICALLY IS ALREADY LIVE ON OUR SYSTEM, BUT WE HAVEN'T PUSHED IT OUT YET BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON THE COMMUNICATION THAT WILL GO OUT TO ALL THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND HOW TO GET LISTED. AND WE'LL ESSENTIALLY ALSO WANT TO DRIVE. SO FOR, YOU KNOW, VISITORS WHO WOULDN'T HISTORICALLY, THEY WOULD MAYBE JUST STUMBLE UPON IT RATHER THAN BEING DRIVEN THERE. WE WANT TO START DRIVING PEOPLE THERE BECAUSE THESE THE THE DIRECTORY WILL BE AN ONLINE PROFILE THAT THE BUSINESS WILL HAVE. THEY CAN FEATURE PHOTOS. THEY CAN FEATURE THEIR ALL THEIR BUSINESS INFORMATION CONTACT. IT WILL. IT'S A REALLY GREAT TOOL WHICH WILL THEN COULD ALSO LEAD BACK TO A CASH BACK REWARDS PROGRAM FOR CUSTOMERS AND ALLOW THEM TO UPDATE IT THEMSELVES AS WELL. THEY DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON US TO KEEP TRACK. WHEN THEY CHANGE DISTRICT MANAGER, THEY CAN UPDATE IT. THEY CAN SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH US THROUGH THAT PORTAL. IT'S A REALLY GOOD TOOL TO SAY THE LEAST. BUT I WAS THINKING THAT SEARCH AND DISCOVERY OPTIMIZATION, THAT'D BE A GREAT LIKE LUNCH AND LEARN SESSION, RIGHT? FOR FOR ORGANIZATION LIKE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHERE WE CAN COLLABORATE, HELP CO MARKET, GET THE MESSAGING OUT. BUT IN TERMS OF ADDING THIS TO OUR TOOLKIT, THIS WOULD BE REALLY GOOD WAY FOR US TO BE THAT MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. THANK YOU. DOES THAT ADDRESS. YEAH I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PUTTING OUR TIME AND MONEY AND EFFORTS IN THE RIGHT PLACE. SURE. AND THIS ADNAMS, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT RECOGNIZING YOU WHEN YOU RAISED YOUR HAND. SO WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU. NO, NO, I JUST RAISE MY HAND. I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT GOAL THREE. ON THE FIRST ONE, IT SAYS EXPAND AND STREAMLINE GRANT PROCESS FOR SIGNS, FOR FACADE AND BUSINESS SUPPORT. AND WHAT CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? BECAUSE I KNOW I SENT A MESSAGE AND IT SEEMED TO BE PUSHBACK FROM STAFF. JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. SO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IN THE FORM HERE? BECAUSE THERE SEEM TO BE PUSHBACK. WHEN I SENT THE QUESTION FOR US, IT'S IT'S CONSTANTLY EVALUATING OUR POLICIES, OUR GRANTS AND CHECKING IN WITH THE BOARD AND SAYING, ALL RIGHT, HERE'S WHAT WORKS, WHAT DOESN'T WORK, WHAT ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE, AND NOT REALLY BEING IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE WAITING SEVERAL YEARS OR SOME OUT TO BE LOOKING AT THE POLICIES, IF ANY, YOU KNOW, TO BE MADE REAL TIME AND HAVING THAT CONVERSATION OPENLY WITH THE BOARD AND SEEKING DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE DESIRED CHANGES, WHETHER IT'S A CHANGE IN POLICY AND PRACTICE, IF SOMETHING ISN'T VERY CLEAR IN THE DRAFT POLICY OR NOT, SO MUCH THE DRAFT POLICY IN THE ADOPTED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY OR SPONSORSHIP POLICY TO SHARE THAT WITH US, BECAUSE THIS IS A DOCUMENT OR THESE ARE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE EVER SO EVOLVING. AND SO IF ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE, WE NEED WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AS OFTEN AS NEED BE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN LINE WITH, WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS, MAKING SURE THAT IF A BOARD MEMBER SEES SOMETHING THAT FEELS THAT NEEDS TO BE, LET'S HAVE AN OPEN CONVERSATION. LET'S WEIGH IN ON WHAT ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS FEEL. AND IF THE BOARD FEELS THAT THAT'S THE BEST APPROACH, THEN NOW, THROUGH A MATTER OF A VOTE, WE HAVE THE DIRECTION AS STAFF WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR ATTORNEY TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. BUT NOW IT'S OPEN CONVERSATION. EVERYBODY'S WEIGHED IN, AND BY A MATTER OF CONSENSUS, WE NOW HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THE CHANGES, JUST LIKE HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE GOT TO WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY AND THE SPONSORSHIP POLICY. WE CAME TO THE BOARD SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND SAID, HERE'S WHAT WE SEE. HERE'S SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO END? WE RECEIVED DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND THOSE TO BE PRESENTED LIKE THAT. DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. NO. I JUST WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE I SENT THAT AND IT SEEMED TO BE PUSHBACK. AND THEN I SEE THERE'S A GOAL. AND I WAS LIKE, HEY, SO I WAS LIKE, LET ME ASK. YEAH, WELL, WE ARE JUST GOING THROUGH IS AND I HAD A 
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CONVERSATION, IF YOU WILL, WITH OUR ATTORNEY BEFORE THE MEETING IS TO SEEKING GUIDANCE ON WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES UP, WHAT IS THE PROPER PROCEDURE AND MANNER TO HANDLE IT. AND I RECEIVED SOME GUIDANCE LITERALLY RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING AND THE GUIDANCE WAS PUT IT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA. DISCUSS IT, LET THE BOARD DECIDE AND GIVE STAFF AND ME, MR. CHAO, THE DIRECTION TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES. SO I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION. DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY SPECIFIC PLANS THAT GO UNDER THAT GOAL ALREADY? NOT YET. THERE'S BEEN SO MANY CHANGES, SO MANY CHANGES. I DESCRIBE IT AS THE THE INK IS STILL KIND OF DRY ON THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE RECENTLY APPROVED, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THERE TO BE SOME CHANGES AND LESSONS LEARNED AS WE MOVE ON WITH WITH APPLICATIONS AS THEY COME FORTH. BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU AND JUST, YOU KNOW, CHECK IN AND SAY, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO IN CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE THESE? THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE YOU HAVE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE BOARD MAY WANT TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION TO THE POLICY, THAT THEY FEEL THAT THE REQUEST IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS IN LINE WITH THE BOARD'S GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE CHECK IN AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE BOARD CONCERNING THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA? OKAY. SO I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE. THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN SUCH A MOTION AT THIS TIME. THE BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION, IF YOU'RE READY TO MAKE A MOTION, IF IT'S THE BOARD'S DESIRE. WE WE GOT QUITE A BIT OF FEEDBACK THIS EVENING. IF YOU'D LIKE US TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES TO THE PLAN, WE'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE THEM SEND THEM OUT. AND WE CAN HAVE THE REVISED, THE REVISED PLAN BROUGHT BACK FOR YOU AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING FOR FORMAL APPROVAL. AND THAT WOULD GIVE US, IF WE MAKE THE CHANGES THIS WEEK, THAT WOULD GIVE YOU MAYBE 2 TO 3 WEEKS TO JUST REVIEW ALL THE CHANGES AND HOPEFULLY BE READY FOR APPROVAL IN ABOUT 30 DAYS. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHATEVER IS THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD. OKAY. 
          UNLESS THE DESIRED CHANGES, WAS THERE ANY CHANGES? WELL, THERE WERE THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO TO HOW OUR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND IN LINE WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. RIGHT. AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S THERE'S COLLABORATION THERE. THERE IS TALK ABOUT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES OR HAVING RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND BEING USING OUR BLUE DOT TOOL. 
          LEVERAGE IT AS MUCH AND AS BEST AS POSSIBLE. I HEARD THOSE TWO, AND I THINK THERE WAS ONE MORE. 
          I THINK IT WAS MORE LIKE FOOTNOTES. SO YEAH. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M. YEAH, I'M FEELING FINE. YEAH. I THINK IT FELL IN. NO, NO THAT'S FINE. THAT'S WHY I'M JUST CHECKING IF THE ITEMS. YEAH. YEAH. SO I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. YEAH. I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. 
          YEAH. WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD. FORWARD. I SECOND THAT MOTION MOVING FORWARD. SO IT WASN'T A FORMAL MOTION. WE CAN. SOME DISCUSSION ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT THE MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO IF I MAY JUST FOR YOUR REQUEST AND CONSIDER THE RED LINE VERSION THAT I PREPARED IS NOT THE VERSION THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET. SOMEHOW WHEN WE PUT THE THE PACKET TOGETHER, THAT VERSION DIDN'T MAKE IT TO. SO WHEN I SAID THAT IT'S IN YOUR PACKET, WHEN THE PACKET WAS PUT, THAT VERSION WAS NOT PICKED UP AND INCLUDED. SO THAT SAID, I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU HOLD OFF ON MAKING ANY, ANY TAKING ANY ACTION ON THIS MATTER UNTIL YOU HAVE THE CORRECT VERSION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU. BECAUSE THE VERSION THAT I WORKED ON, THE CURRENT VERSION. NO, I WAS ACTUALLY BECAUSE WHEN THE COMMENT WAS RAISED, I PULLED IT UP AND I WAS LIKE, HOLD ON A SECOND, THAT'S NOT THE VERSION THAT I WORKED ON LAST WEEK TO PUT IT. AND SO THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY IS CORRECT, BUT THE STAFF REPORT BUT THE ATTACHMENT ITSELF IS IS NOT. SO I WOULD ASK I WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO HOLD OFF ON MAKING ANY TAKING ANY ACTION ON THIS. IF ANYTHING TABLE THE ITEM I WILL AFTER THIS. THIS WEEK I WILL SEND YOU VIA EMAIL THE RED LINE VERSION FOR YOU TO LOOK AT. IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL THROUGH THAT DOCUMENT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I'LL MAKE THE CHANGES AND I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING. BUT YOUR EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND WHAT'S LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT IS CORRECT. THAT IS THE HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE RED LINE VERSION. SO I 
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WOULD ASK THAT SAID I WOULD ASK FOR THIS ITEM TO BE TABLED. YES. IF THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO VOTE TO TABLE BECAUSE HE SAID THE TABLE I MEAN, IF HE'S JUST DIRECTING US I'M JUST SEEKING GUIDANCE FROM MR. MR. SHELBY, I THINK YOU SHOULD VOTE TO TABLE IT. VOTE TO TABLE. OKAY. MOTION TO TABLE ITEM EIGHT A SECOND PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. LET'S HAVE A VOICE VOTE. THOMPSON. ABNEY I BROUGHTON I ZILKHA. PAYNE I HARVEY I. IS THIS TABLE OKAY? 
          [8.b. DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION OF FY 2025– 2026 DCEDC BOARD MEMBER BUSINESS AMBASSADOR VISITS PROGRAM]
OKAY. ALL FIELD TRIPS, ALL DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION HISTORY AT 20 2526. C E C BOARD MEMBER, BUSINESS AMBASSADOR VISITS PROGRAM. MR. GOLF GOOD EVENING BOARD FOR THE RECORD MARLIN GOLF ASSISTANT DIRECTOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THIS ITEM IS IN LINE WITH A LOT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. MAYBE ONE OF THE SLIDES SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE SUBJECT OF BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION, THAT THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY, RIGHT, AS A CORE FUNCTION OF OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND SO AS PART OF OUR WORK PLAN TO STAFF RIGHT INDEPENDENT, WE CONDUCT WE'LL BE CONDUCTING A SERIES OF OF 60 OR MORE BUSINESS VISITS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF INDUSTRIES AT DIFFERENT POINTS IN TIME AND FOR DIFFERENT OCCASIONS. BUT THROUGH THE COURSE OF OUR DISCUSSION AND PLANNING, THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THE THOUGHT IS, HOW CAN WE INVOLVE OUR BOARD RIGHT MORE AS PART OF THAT? NOT NECESSARILY TO HELP US MEET OUR BENCHMARKS, BUT FOR THIS PURPOSE. RIGHT. THIS IS JUST A DEFINITION. I CROPPED IT A PERSON WHO ACTS AS A REPRESENTATIVE, RIGHT? PROMOTER. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY. RIGHT. AND SO WE FEEL LIKE AS AMBASSADORS, WE'RE PERFECTLY POSITIONED. THOSE OF US WHO LIVE HERE, WE WE EXCHANGE BUSINESS AND TRANSACTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY. RIGHT. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET SOME TOUCHPOINTS RIGHT, TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT AND ENGAGE WITH THESE BUSINESS OWNERS AND HAVE A REASON RIGHT, TO STRIKE UP A CONVERSATION BEYOND JUST THE TRANSACTION. AND WE FEEL LIKE THROUGH THAT TOUCHPOINT, THROUGH THAT DISCOVERY, WHAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING IS WHEN WE FIND OUT SOME THINGS RIGHT, WE FIND OUT SOME THINGS. AND SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US AS COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES, BOARD MEMBERS, TO DO JUST THAT. OKAY. SO THIS WOULD BE OUR CHECKLIST, RIGHT? WE SAY IF WE DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO GO VISIT THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE PROPOSING TO ROLL THIS OUT. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE WOULD SUGGEST DOING DO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS BUSINESS. NOW, SOME OF US ARE REALLY FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF BUSINESSES, HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY A LONG TIME. 
          RIGHT. SO YOU WON'T HAVE TO KNOW WHAT PRODUCTS THEY SELL, WHERE THEY LOCATED, OR EVEN HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THEM. BUT IF IT HAPPENED TO BE A BUSINESS, WE AREN'T THAT INTIMATELY FAMILIAR ABOUT, DO SOME BACKGROUND RIGHT, SEARCH THEIR WEBSITE, SCAN SOCIAL MEDIA. RIGHT? AND THEN WHEN WE ARRIVE, OBVIOUSLY YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF. WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS LOGO, POLO SHIRT, ETC. SO WE'RE OFFICIAL. AND THEN IF IT'S APPLICABLE, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION, SEE IF THEY'LL SHOW YOU AROUND. RIGHT. IF IT'S NOT DOING THEIR PEAK RUSH OR BUSY HOURS AND THEN TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING WELL, SOME WINS, SUCCESS STORIES. BUT ALSO SOMETIMES I DON'T HAVE TO PROBE AS HARD AND THEY'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, BOTH MAYBE WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY, BUT MAYBE JUST INDUSTRY OVERALL. 
          RIGHT. AND THROUGH THAT, THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION, WE'RE GETTING THAT INFORMATION. AND IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES WE'LL SHOW IF IT'S USEFUL TO YOU, A TOOL WHERE YOU CAN HELP MEMORIALIZE THAT CONVERSATION AFTER YOU HAD IT. YOU KNOW, LIKE MYSELF, I USUALLY COME BACK AND I'VE GOT A LITTLE TRACKER SPREADSHEET. WHEN WE GET BLUE DOT, WE'LL HAVE A PLACE TO LAND OUR COMMENTS AND BE ABLE TO SYNTHESIZE THAT INTO REPORTS. BUT FOR NOW, WE MAKE DO WITH WHAT WE HAVE. BUT WE FEEL LIKE THIS FORM, EVEN IF WE MEMORIZE IT OR IF WE WANT TO USE IT. OLD SCHOOL CLIPBOARD, WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT. AND THEN THE LAST THING, ONE OF THE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA LIKE WHAT? AFTER CITIZENS PUBLIC FORUM, IT'S DIRECTOR'S REPORT. NOW THIS AIN'T HOMEWORK, RIGHT. SO WITH THESE SHEETS I DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET THEM IN. I'LL GIVE YOU KNOW GRADE STUDENTS PASTOR SHEETS TO THE FRONT. NO. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR Y'ALL 
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TO REPORT OUT LIKE WE WANT TO DESIGNATE THAT PART OF THE AGENDA TO USE FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS. LIKE, HEY, I WENT TO VISIT, YOU KNOW, 84 LUMBER. I'M USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE I WENT TO VISIT THEM LAST MONTH AND KIND OF SOME HIGHLIGHTS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. WE'RE GOING TO COUNT THAT. AND THEN WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR QUARTERLY AND ANNUAL REPORTS, RIGHT. COMMUNITIES ARE LIKE, DANG, I'M BORED. COLLECTIVELY, DID HOWEVER MANY VISITS IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S GREAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S THE THING WE WANT. WE KNOW WE GET FEEDBACK. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SOME OF THE OTHER SURVEYS ARE JUST PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ON THE STREET. THERE'S AN OPINION ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION NOT SPECIFIC TO THE CORPORATION, BUT THE CITY AS A WHOLE. MAYBE SOMETIME WE AREN'T THE MOST BUSINESS FRIENDLY. IT'S HARD TO DO BUSINESS WITH DUNCANVILLE. THIS IS JUST A SMALL GESTURE. AGAIN, TOUCH POINTS TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE PUSHING TO SHIFT AND CHANGE THAT NARRATIVE. WE WANT TO BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY AS BEST AS WE CAN CONTROL IT. SO STEWARDS OF THE ECONOMY. THAT'S THE PREMISE FOR THIS PILOT PROGRAM, RIGHT. SO THIS EXAMPLE FORM FRONT AND BACK IN THE PACKET, I MEAN, JUST REAL SIMPLE. OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT BUSINESS YOU'RE VISITING. MAYBE WE CAN GET THE NAME OF THE PERSON THAT WE MET WITH. AND THEN. WELL, ACTUALLY, AS WE WERE PREPARING FOR THIS MEETING, THINKING AS IT RELATES TO THE SURVEY, IT'D BE PRETTY EASY FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER A SURVEY, MAYBE A QR CODE, AND WE CAN HAVE THAT AND THEN WE CAN TRACK THAT JUST. BUT AGAIN, IN TERMS OF DISCUSSION, HEY, HOW ARE YOU FEEL ABOUT THE LANDLORD OR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT? RIGHT. HAVE YOU HAD ANY GOOD EXPERIENCE, ANY ANY CONCERNS, ANYTHING I COULD TAKE BACK TO THE STAFF? RIGHT. THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU SEE REPRESENTED IN THESE CATEGORIES, JUST TO KIND OF HELP GUIDE THE CONVERSATION. 
          RIGHT. AND THEN MAYBE AS YOU'RE WALKING OUT YOUR CAR YOU SEE SOME OBSERVATIONS. AGAIN, YOU WANT TO GET THAT DOWN BEFORE I FORGET THAT AND GET BACK ON TO MY BUSY PART OF MY DAY AGAIN. 
          IT'S A SECTION ON THERE. YOU WANT TO TAKE A FEW NOTES, PUT THAT AWAY AND YOU'LL HAVE IT. 
          ALL RIGHT OKAY. IMPLEMENTATION. SO WE'RE THINKING WANT TO OBVIOUSLY INTRODUCE THIS AT THE SEPTEMBER REGULAR MEETING. COME BACK NEXT MONTH. WE'RE GOING TO BE INTO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR NOW. 
          AND SO WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO GET EVERYBODY'S SHIRT SIZES. ANY FEEDBACK FROM TONIGHT. YOU KNOW KIND OF FORMALIZE IT, TWEAK IT AND THEN BE READY TO GO IN NOVEMBER. AND WE'LL HAVE OUR FIRST QUARTERLY LIST OF BUSINESSES TO VISIT. RIGHT. AND THIS EXAMPLE LIKE I'LL COME BACK NEXT MONTH WITH LIKE A MATRIX AND MAYBE ON THIS COLUMN, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT ZILKHA PAIN. 
          HARVEY, ETC. OR MAYBE WE JUST LEAVE IT BLANK AND LET Y'ALL PICK. I WON'T BE TOO PRESCRIPTIVE, BUT WE'LL IDENTIFY THE BUSINESSES THAT WE WANT TO VISIT. AND THERE'S A METHOD TO THAT. LIKE WE WANT TO KIND OF HAVE A CROSS SECTION OF INDUSTRY, RIGHT? THE BUSINESS TYPES I'M TRYING TO GET SOME THAT HAVE EXTENDED HOURS BEYOND JUST THE TIGHT, YOU KNOW, 8 TO 5, BECAUSE SOME OF US WORK OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY. SO THOSE KIND OF THINGS WILL GO INTO, YOU KNOW, HOW WE COME UP WITH OUR LIST DISTRIBUTED. ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE GET TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS AGAIN, BUSINESS RETENTION AND ATTRACTION. RIGHT. SO ONE OF ONE OF MY VISITS, I HAD IT ON MY LIST TO GO CHECK IN ON CABINET WORKS FOR BUSINESS. I DRIVE BY ALL THE TIME ON BIG STONE GAP. DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT, BUT I KNEW THEY WERE ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPANIES IN THE CITY IN TERMS OF EMPLOYEE AND AREA IN SQUARE FOOT. SO THROUGH THAT ENGAGEMENT, THEY'VE INVITED US TO TAKE PART. WE RECEIVED THAT EMAIL. SO JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, WE'VE GOT ROOM FOR TEN PERSONS. SO IF YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED OR AVAILABLE, PLEASE RESPOND AND LET US KNOW. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT, THEN WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE STAFF, CITY COUNCIL, ETC. RIGHT. LAST SLIDE. STAFF RECOMMENDS ONE OF THESE THREE OPTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND IT'S JUST APPROVE ADDITIONAL CHANGES. OR GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND COME BACK LATER. OKAY. QUESTIONS. SO. I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT. ME PERSONALLY, I'M KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OF AN ACQUIRED TASTE. SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TURN ME OUT THERE TO TALK TO THOSE MINISTERS WITHOUT SOME SUPERVISION FROM SOME, YOU 
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KNOW, MEMBER, KNOWLEDGEABLE MEMBER OF THE STAFF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, SEE, YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL WITH AMBASSADORS NOW BECAUSE YOU YOU'RE REPRESENTING. OKAY, WHERE ARE YOU FROM. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BE CLUED IN ON THE NUANCES OF WHERE THEY'RE FROM. AND SO. 
          RIGHT. SO I MAY NEED I DON'T KNOW, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, LIKE A TRANSLATOR OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF CHAPERON. OKAY. CHAPERON. YEAH. JUST, JUST JUST THINK ABOUT IT. I'M SAYING, OKAY. GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT, BUT I THINK YOU GIVE YOURSELF ENOUGH CREDIT. YOU'VE BEEN LIKE I SAID, WE LOOK AT THIS, USE THIS AS JUST A SIMPLY TALKING POINT GUIDE. AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THESE BUSINESS, YOU GO TO WINCO. IF WE HAD KANG MIN'S ON THE LIST, OH, I'D GO THERE. 
          SEE, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, SEE, I MEAN, I THINK LIKE I SAID, IT'S. BUT IT'S REALLY IT'S LIKE AGAIN. 
          WHAT? BUT BUT BEHIND THE STORE, BACK OFFICE, THE PARTS THAT YOU ALWAYS WONDER. I THINK THAT'S WHO WE REALLY WANT. AND WE KNOW HOW IT LOOKS AND FEEL WHEN WE'RE GOING TO ENGAGE IN COMMERCE. BUT WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW IS THE STAFF AND THE CORPORATION IS HOW WELL ARE YOU, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU REALLY DOING OKAY OR WHAT GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, IF NOT FOR US COMING BY BEING GOODWILL AMBASSADORS, NOT TOO HEAVY OF A CONVERSATION. I THINK AT THAT POINT IT'S LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE GOT BIG MARLIN, MARCELLA MARK, WE CAN DEFINITELY I'LL MAKE A NOTE SO THEY CAN REACH OUT TO YOU AND WE CAN CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION IF YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S KIND OF THE THOUGHT. IT'S REALLY FOR THE BUSINESSES TO SEE THEIR BOARD MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, BEYOND JUST THE STAFF ENGAGED WITH THEM. WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT TOO. BUT, WELL, I SAW THIBODAUX IS ON THE LIST SO I CAN GO. I'M GOING TO WRITE. I'M I'M LEADING BY EXAMPLE. I'M GOING TO I SAID, Y'ALL WANT ME TO SIGN? Y'ALL GOING TO BE ARM WRESTLING OVER THESE. YOU SAID 60. SO. SO IS THAT NO STAFF, NO BOARD. WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS TO START THIS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. RIGHT. BUT IT SAID LIKE 60. BUT SO THE STAFF REPORT IT SAYS STAFF INDEPENDENTLY WILL BE DOING MORE THAN 60 BUSINESS VISITS ANNUALLY. RIGHT. THAT'S LIKE FIVE A MONTH. RIGHT. STAFF. YEAH. WE GOT YEAH. MORE OR LESS MINIMUM. MINIMAL MINIMUM. JUST IF YOU WOULD JUST FOR A BIT OF CLARIFICATION, THE 60 BUSINESS VISITS ARE IF YOU WILL HOMEWORK FOR STAFF. THE AMBASSADOR VISITS ARE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROGRAM WITH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PROGRAM. WE'RE GOING TO GO IN AND VISIT AND VISIT THESE 60 BUSINESSES WITH VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT, AND REALLY HOW WE CAN PROVIDE THEM BETTER SYSTEMS, RESOURCES. THE AMBASSADOR VISITS HAVE A DIFFERENT FLAIR FLAVOR TO THEM. SO THEY'RE JUST THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE DIFFERENT. THAT'S WHY WHEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HAVING THE CDC GO ON THESE, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE EVEN EVEN OKAY, IF THEY'RE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY OR THERE'S A DESIRE FOR TWO BOARD MEMBERS TO GO TOGETHER, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE INDIVIDUALLY GO TOGETHER. BUT THE POINT IS FOR THERE TO BE AMBASSADORSHIP FOR THE CDC REPRESENTATIVE TO GO, YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM WHAT STAFF IS DOING, BECAUSE STAFF IS GOING WITH A PURPOSE, WITH THE CDC, PURPOSE WOULD BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, AS I'LL DESCRIBE IT, IT'S SHOWING THE BUSINESS, COMMUNITY SUPPORT, LOVE, ETC. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE LIKE THAT. I'M JUST GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU ASSIGN BECAUSE I'LL BE LIKE MR. HARTMAN AND GO TO THE RESTAURANTS. YEAH. I'M JUST SO YEAH, THAT'S WHY I MAKE SURE WE ALWAYS HAVE A RESTAURANT ON THE LIST. WE. YEAH. I NEED TO BE ASSIGNED. MR. I APPRECIATE YOUR DESIRE TO HIT A MINIMUM OF 60 BUSINESSES, BUT IN THE FIRST YEAR, I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU CHANGE THAT WORD MINIMUM TO A TARGET OF 60 SO THAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOUR BUSINESSES ARE OPEN TO HAVE VISITS AND THAT YOU GUYS DON'T SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FOOT WHILE YOU KNOW, HEY, IF YOU WANT TO DO MORE THAN 60, GREAT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S GOING TO HOLD YOU BACK, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO. I WOULD BE REMISS TO SAY 60 AS A MINIMUM IF YOU DON'T HIT IT, YOU KNOW. YEAH. SO THAT PIECE, NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THIS PROGRAM, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S PART OF STAFF DEPARTMENT WORK PLANS. COUNSEL, YOU KNOW, GAVE 
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US FEEDBACK ON THIS PROGRAM. JUST QUARTERLY BOARD MEMBERS. YOU KNOW, GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. VISIBLE SHOW OF SUPPORT AND AMBASSADORS. SO THERE'S NO STAFF I THINK WE'RE WE'RE COMFORTABLE AND CONFIDENT WITH THAT BENCHMARK. WE WE'LL WE'LL ACCOMPLISH THAT NUMBER FOR THE END OF THE YEAR. AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN FORMALLY DOING THIS FOR THE FULL YEAR. SO. 
          I'LL MAKE A COMMENT, IF I MIGHT ADD. I KNOW ON MY OWN AND I HADN'T BEEN TRACKING THEM AS BUSINESS VISITS, BUT I'VE MET WITH A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT HAVE COME HERE TO CITY HALL OR HAVE GONE TO THEM TO DISCUSS IF THEY'VE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GRANT INCENTIVE PROGRAM, AND THAT'S GIVEN ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH THEM ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS. 
          SOME PAIN POINTS. THIS IS JUST IT HADN'T BEEN PACKAGED IN A REPORT OR, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTING THEIR FEEDBACK, BUT PLENTY, PLENTY OF VISITS AND MEETINGS HAVE HAPPENED WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES, I'LL GUARANTEE YOU THAT. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLAN. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THESE RESTAURANTS, IF YOU GUYS COULD KIND OF OFFER SOME KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT THEM, LIKE, YOU KNOW, FAMILY OWNED, BEEN HERE FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, THEY DO THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER AND, YOU KNOW, JUST SO THAT WE'LL KNOW AND WE'LL WE WILL SEEM LEGITIMATE. YEAH. GO IN. WE DO HAVE ANOTHER SITE. THOUGHT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE AMBASSADOR VISIT, MAYBE CAN WE HAVE SOME MARKETING MATERIAL, ESPECIALLY FOR LIKE DEVIN'S EVENTS TO BRING AND LEAVE BEHIND? BECAUSE NO SENSE IN GOING THERE WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING, HEY, WE WANT YOU INVOLVED. YEAH, YEAH. AND I'M WONDERING TOO, WOULD IT AGAIN BE MORE EFFICIENT? WE, I TALKED EARLIER ABOUT CREATING A QR CODE TO DRIVE THE TRAFFIC TO THAT MAYBE CENTRALIZED LOCATION WHERE YOU CAN FIND OUT ABOUT EVENTS, HOW TO GET A PERMIT, GRANT POLICY, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, LIKE YOU WANT TO SIGN A LOBBY SCAN OR YOUR ENTREPRENEUR. IT JUST DRIVES YOU BACK TO OUR OUR SITE. SO EITHER WE FEEL LIKE IT'S MOST EFFICIENT. YOU GUYS WANT TO, YOU KNOW, ACCUMULATE, YOU KNOW, PHYSICAL PRINT COPIES. WE CAN DO THAT. AND THEN I'LL EAT REGARDLESS. WE'LL LOOK AT CREATING THAT THAT QR CODE TO MAKE IT THAT MUCH MORE EFFICIENT WHERE THEY CAN, I THINK AT LEAST A HANDOUT SHEET, AT LEAST ONE SHEET WITH THE CONTACTS. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST WITH OR WITHOUT NAMES IN CASE PEOPLE CHANGE, THEN THEY CAN JUST SAY, AT LEAST THIS IS THE MAIN NUMBER TO CALL AND, BUT AND. ABSOLUTELY. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT BUSINESS CARDS. NO. I THINK A MARKETING PIECE FLIER THAT WE COULD LEAVE. YEAH. 
          YEAH. THAT. YEAH. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE AT LEAST LEAVING SOMETHING AND. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD FEEDBACK. BUT WE'RE JUST CHATTING A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE SOME SWAG ITEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS COULD, COULD DROP OFF AT BUSINESSES WOULD BE A GOOD, GOOD TOUCH. SO THAT'S IT. SWAY STUFF WE ALL GOT MISS. MISS TAMMY. YES I THOUGHT I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT. I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA FOR BUSINESSES TO SEE MEMBERS OF STAFF COMING IN TO THE BUSINESS TO SHOW THAT IT IS EASY TO DO BUSINESS WITH DUNCANVILLE, HAVING A BUSINESS I LOOK OUT TO, LIKE, HERE HE COMES. WHAT? YEAH. 
          WHAT? WHAT THEY WANT RIGHT NOW. SO I KNOW THAT FEELING. AND WE DEFINITELY WANT INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO HELP. AND THEN THE THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT WE WANT INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. BUT THEY MAY BE HESITANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? IF THEY JUST DON'T SEE ME, THEY DON'T KNOW I'M HERE. NOBODY'S GOING TO BOTHER ME. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT. WE WANT INDIVIDUALS TO KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT AND TO UTILIZE ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. AND SO, IN ADDITION TO THE COMMENT, I HAD A QUESTION JUST ABOUT THE COLLECTION OF DATA. ARE WE USING SURVEY MONKEY? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE USING TO TAKE THE DATA AND BE ABLE TO CATEGORIZE IT SO THAT AFTERWARDS YOU CAN SAY, HEY, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AGAIN, MAYBE EVEN ANOTHER ONE OF THE FEATURES THAT WE COULD HAVE 
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AVAILABLE THROUGH THE THROUGH THE SOFTWARE WE'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE. BUT AT MINIMUM, YEAH, THERE ARE TOOLS LIKE SURVEY MONKEY, WE USE A SURVEY FOR OUR POST EVENTS OR EVEN A GOOGLE FORM TO GET IN THE CAR AND JUST TYPE IT IN REAL QUICK AND SAY, I WENT BLAH, BLAH, BLAH HERE. AND THEN AT LEAST YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION IN ONE PLACE THAT COULD HELP WITH EFFICIENCY. EFFICIENCY. OKAY. YOU KNOW, VERSUS HAVING A PULL IT UP AND YEAH, VERSUS TYPING IN I AGREE. OKAY. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD HELP. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE DATA RIGHT THERE. AND EVEN IF IT'S A QUICK STAFF VISIT LIKE MISS PEREZ MENTIONED, ALL THOSE THAT ARE MAYBE LESS FORMAL, THAT COULD BE A WAY TO QUICKLY JOT DOWN SO THAT THAT INFORMATION IS MEMORIALIZED. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING I DO. GETTING THE USER IDS IF IF MY MEETING WAS LIVE, IF I CAN GET THAT BUILT IN. OKAY. SO TO HAVE ADDITIONAL USERS SHOULD BE LIKE POSSIBLY MAYBE GETTING YOU YOUR OWN PROFILES WITHIN BLUE DOT WITH THE CRM FEATURE. BECAUSE IN TALKING WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE, THERE'S A LOT OF TEMPLATES AND TOOLS THAT CAN BE BUILT IN THE SYSTEM, AND IT'S VERY USER FRIENDLY. SO WE COULD DEFINITELY REVISIT THAT WITH HER AND SEE IF MAYBE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, HOST A TRAINING FOR THE BOARD AND HOW TO USE THIS PLATFORM, IF THAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE. LOOK, I'M NOT TRYING TO CREATE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE A STRAIN. I'D BE TALKING ABOUT A GOOGLE FORM. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY IT'S VERY SIMPLE. IT'S ALREADY PAID FOR IT. IT SHE JUST WE WOULD BUILD IT OUT AND THEN GIVE YOU ACCESS TO IT SO THAT YOU COULD JUST TYPE IN, YEAH. WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT US TO CAPTURE. JUST. YEAH. OKAY. SO YOU CAN MAKE ME IS THAT I PAY FOR VIRTUAL WORK. SO THAT'S ALWAYS. WE CAN GET YOU SOME HARD COPIES. LISTEN, IF I CALLED YOU AND SAID I'M GOING TO HAVE MY TOOLS AVAILABLE. I'LL DEAL WITH IT. AND IF I MAY, JUST FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED OF US IS HOW WE'RE GOING ABOUT CALLING OR MARKING OUR BUSINESS. WHAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR FOR IT? MEANING, IF YOU JUST GO TO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED FROM US PREVIOUSLY, IF YOU GO TO A BUSINESS AND YOU DON'T HAPPEN TO CONNECT OR NOT ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THE MANAGER BECAUSE LIKE YOU MENTIONED, ONE OF THOSE, AN UNSCHEDULED, UNANNOUNCED VISIT MAY NOT NECESSARILY GET YOU THE KIND OF OUTCOME THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR. AND IN THOSE INSTANCES, WE DO NOT COUNT THEM AS BUSINESS VISITS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, TALKING ABOUT FOOD, WE RECENTLY HERE WITHIN THE LAST TWO WEEKS WENT TO ONE OF THE LOCAL FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS, HOPING THAT THROUGH THAT VISIT TO HAVE A FEW MINUTES TO SPEAK WITH THE MANAGER. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN WE WENT, THE MANAGER WASN'T THERE. 
          SO WE WERE WE WERE ABLE TO EAT BUT NOT HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. SO WE'RE NOT COUNTING THAT AS A BUSINESS VISIT UNLESS. SO THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH THE TEAM IS UNLESS YOU'RE ABLE TO GET A NAME, SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUSINESS. WHAT'S GOING ON? SOME INFORMATION. 
          OKAY, WE'RE COUNTING IT. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, GET SOME TIDBIT OF INFORMATION FROM IT'S NOT A BUSINESS VISIT. ALL RIGHT. SO ALL RIGHT, SO IT APPEARS WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO EITHER APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT. MOTION TO APPROVE EIGHT B. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND PROPERLY? MAY WE HAVE A VOICE VOTE? THOMPSON A ABNEY. AYE. BROUGHTON A ZILKA A PAYNE A HARVEY. HI. PARSONS. OKAY. 
          [8.c. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE BOARD ACTION ON THE FREQUENCY OF REGULARLY SCHEDULED DCEDC MEETINGS AND PROPOSED DATES FOR FY 2025-2026]
THAT TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER C DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE BOARD ACTION ON THE FREQUENCY OF REGULARLY SCHEDULED DC EDC MEETINGS AND PROPOSED DATES FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 2526. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND GOOD EVENING AGAIN. THIS MATTER IS NOT A NEW MATTER. IT'S NOT A NEW ITEM. 
          IT'S AN ITEM, REALLY, THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL 
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MONTHS. AND HERE RECENTLY WE HAVE KIND OF, IF YOU WILL, MADE THE CASE AS TO WHY WE NEED TO CONSIDER OR HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. ONE, OUR CURRENT SITUATION IS THAT THE DC, DC MEETINGS ONLY SCHEDULED ONCE A MONTH, AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE'VE JUST RECEIVED A GROWING NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS AND REALLY, MORE THAN ANYTHING, BUSINESS TO DISCUSS FROM A STRATEGIC PLAN. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY, SPONSORSHIP POLICY, BYLAWS, PROCUREMENT. THERE'S JUST BEEN A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS. AND HERE THIS EVENING WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE AMBASSADORSHIP PROGRAM. RIGHT. SO WE'VE HAD TO AND WE'VE BEEN IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAD TO CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS TO KEEP UP WITH THE WORKLOAD, WITH THE VOLUME. AND SO BY HAVING JUST ONE MEETING EVERY 30 DAYS, WE HAVE, IN SOME INSTANCES FOUND OURSELVES TO COMPRESS 30 DAYS WORTH OF ACTIVITIES INTO A SINGLE AGENDA, WHICH MEANS WHICH MAKES IT FOR A REALLY LOADED AGENDA. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ENCOUNTER WITH THE CURRENT SCHEDULE. ONE, WE HAVE DELAYS FOR APPLICANTS SEEKING TIMELY DECISIONS. SO IF WE KEEP TO THE 30 DAY SCHEDULE AND WE HAVE AN APPLICANT, WE SAY HERE THE DCDC DOESN'T MEET FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS, WAIT 30 DAYS AND SAY YOUR GRANT APPLICATION. IT'S JUST IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE. THE OTHER ONE IS THAT WE HAVE THE LONGER AGENDAS. IT REDUCES THE TIME FOR DISCUSSIONS OR FOR THAT MATTER, IT CAN LENGTHEN THE TIME OF DISCUSSION AND JUST LENGTHEN THE DURATION OF THE MEETING BEING HERE 930, 10:00, ETC. BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, AND I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH BY MEETING 30 DAYS 30 EVERY 30 DAYS, WE ARE. I CONSIDER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION RIGHT. AND IT'S JUST NOT BUSINESS FRIENDLY TO MEET, TO DISCUSS, KEEP ALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES ACTIVITIES. WE TALK ABOUT AMBASSADOR AMBASSADOR VISITS TO DISCUSS THAT AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK JUST EVERY 30 DAYS. I THINK WE FIND IT NECESSARY TO HAVE THAT, THOSE TYPE OF CONVERSATIONS AT LEAST TWICE A MONTH. PLUS, BY KEEPING KEEPING TO THE CURRENT SCHEDULE, IT PUTS A CONSTRAINT ON STAFF AND THE BOARD. WE FIND OURSELVES PUTTING TOGETHER SEVERAL REPORTS, SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS, SEVERAL MATERIALS TO PRESENT, YOU KNOW, ONE TIME A MONTH THAT BY GOING TO A TWO MONTH SCHEDULE OR TWICE A MONTH SCHEDULE, WE'RE ABLE TO SPREAD SOME OF THAT WORKLOAD OUT THE PRESENTATIONS. AND, YOU KNOW, NOW WE PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE BEING A BIT MORE FRIENDLY AND JUST REALLY HAVING AS I WILL FEEL AND THINK, IS HAVING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONVERSATIONS REAL TIME, IF YOU WILL, AND NOT FIND OURSELVES 30 DAYS IN THE REAR AND CONSTANTLY FINDING OURSELVES KEEPING UP WITH THIS CONVERSATION, THAT AGREEMENT, THIS BUSINESS OPENING, WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN IN BETWEEN MEETINGS BY PROVIDING EMAILS WITH A COUPLE OF PROJECT UPDATES. BUT THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE BECAUSE WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH OUR WORKLOAD. SO THAT SAID, WHAT THE CHANGE THAT I PROPOSE IS INCREASING THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS TO TWICE A MONTH. THE NEW SCHEDULE PROPOSED IS THE SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAY. THE IT WOULD BE AT THE SAME MEETING TIME AND SAME MEETING ROOM HERE STILL AT 6:00. AND THIS WOULD NOT BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONS, MEETINGS AND OR ANY OTHER MEETING RECORDINGS. SO WE WENT AT GREAT LENGTHS TO LOOK AT WHERE AND HOW THE VARIOUS OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WERE MEETING. 
          YOU KNOW, IF WE MOVED THE MEETING TO A SPECIFIC OTHER DAY IN THE MONTH OR WEEK, WHAT CONFLICTS THAT COULD BRING TO THE AVAILABILITY OF THE ROOM, TO THE RECORDING, AND BY GOING IN THIS DIRECTION TO THE SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAY, WE FIND OURSELVES NOT TO BE IN ANY CONFLICT WITH ANY OTHER BOARD OR COMMISSION, OR FOR THAT, FOR THAT MATTER, THE AVAILABILITY OF THIS ROOM OR THE RECORDING OF THE MEETING. WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT WOULD BE OUR TIME AND WITHOUT ANY INTERRUPTIONS, THE CONCERN ABOUT KEEPING IT TO THE MONDAYS IS THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CURRENTLY MEETS ON THE SECOND MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH, AND THEY'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS ABOUT ALSO INCREASING THEIR MEETING FREQUENCY. AND ONE OPTION FOR THEM IS THE FOURTH MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH. IF THEY GO IN THAT DIRECTION, THAT WOULD BE PRESENT A CONFLICT FOR US, BECAUSE YOU WOULD FIND TWO BOARDS MEETING THE SAME TIME IN THE SAME BUILDING, SEPARATE ROOM, BUT NOT BEING ABLE TO USE THE SAME TECHNOLOGY FOR RECORDING THEIR MEETINGS. SO THAT'S WHY WE COULDN'T WE WEREN'T IN A POSITION TO OFFER, WELL, NOT SO MUCH NOT WEREN'T IN THE POSITION. WE COULDN'T OFFER A MONDAY OPTION AS JUST THAT, AS AN OPTION BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER BOARD, COMMISSION, ROOM AVAILABILITY, RECORDING. AND SO THIS IS THE BEST OPTION THAT WE FOUND THAT DOES NOT HAVE A CONFLICT WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF THIS ROOM CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER BOARD OR COMMISSION MEETING ON THIS DATE OR THIS TIME. THE BENEFITS, THE BENEFITS OF GOING IN THIS DIRECTION. ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE OUR MEETINGS FASTER, BE 
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MORE BUSINESS FRIENDLY WITH THE APPLICATION. TURNAROUND REDUCES THE NEED FOR CALLING A SPECIAL MEETING AND WORKING THROUGH EVERYBODY'S AVAILABILITY. IF ANYTHING, IT WOULD PROVIDE MORE PREDICTABILITY WE SET IN OUR CALENDARS. IF THERE IS NO NEED TO MEET ON EITHER THE SECOND OR FOURTH, WE CAN CANCEL IT. BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE A PRESET IN OUR IN OUR CALENDARS WHERE RIGHT NOW WE'RE FINDING OURSELVES HAVING TO SURVEY EVERYONE WHEN THERE IS A FULL AGENDA OR A LOT OF BUSINESS TO DISCUSS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE QUORUM ENOUGH TO TO BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE THE SPECIAL MEETING. AND THE OTHER ONE IS SUPPORTS PROACTIVE, RESPONSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, BEING PROACTIVE, BEING, YOU KNOW, SHARING MORE INFORMATION WITH YOU ABOUT OUR BUSINESS VISITS, AMBASSADOR VISITS, UPCOMING EVENTS, ETC. JUST PUT IT'S I FEEL THAT IT PUTS US IN A BETTER SPOT. NOW AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS, THE NEXT STEPS IS FOR THE BOARD TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS NEW PROPOSED MEETING SCHEDULE. STAFF WOULD HAVE TO PREPARE AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND OBTAIN APPROVAL, AND AS PART OF THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO ESTABLISH A COMMENCEMENT DATE, OTHERWISE AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THAT IS ALL I HAVE REGARDING THIS MATTER. SEEKING ANY FEEDBACK COMMENTS ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH THIS, WITH THIS ITEM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR? I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THURSDAY'S. I JUST KNOW BY ME PERSONALLY IN MY TRAVEL SCHEDULE THAT THURSDAYS ARE TOUGH. USUALLY IF I'M OUT OF TOWN, I'M OUT OF TOWN THE LATTER PART OF THE WEEK. USUALLY. I HAVE A LOT OF CONFERENCES IN THE FALL THAT GO FROM WEDNESDAY TO SATURDAY. IT'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC, ESPECIALLY WITH THE BYLAWS. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE 22 BYLAWS. WE'RE GOING TO HOLD FAST THAT THREE UNEXCUSED ABSENCES. 
          THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR ME. WELL, THE THING ABOUT UNEXCUSED ABSENCES IS I UNDERSTAND THEM. AND UNEXCUSED ABSENCES, IF YOU DON'T REACH OUT TO EITHER STAFF OR MYSELF TO LET ONE OF US KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF YOU DO THAT, THEN THAT IS NOT AN UNEXCUSED ABSENCE. SO IF I'M IF I'M WRONG, THEN NO, THAT WAS THAT CONCERN WAS RAISED WHEN WE MET WITH THE BYLAWS COMMITTEE. AND THE DIRECTION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE BYLAWS COMMITTEE IS THE UNEXCUSED ABSENCES WOULD BE SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES OF, OH, NO CALL, NO SHOW, WHICH IS LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT BOARD MEMBER DIDN'T LET US KNOW. 
          WE PLANNED A MEETING A CERTAIN WAY. THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION. IF ANYTHING, WHAT WAS STRESSED BY THE BYLAWS COMMITTEE IS SO LONG AS THERE'S A LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION THAT'S CONSIDERED, THAT'S AS AN EXCUSE. IT'S A PROBLEM WITH THAT COMMITTEE THAT HASN'T ISN'T COMMUNICATED TO EITHER THE BOARD, PRESIDENT OR STAFF LETTING US SO WE CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY, THAT WE CONSIDER IT AS AN UNEXCUSED MEETING. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS OR NOT, BUT JUST CLARIFICATION SO THAT YOU COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT IT DOES AS LONG AS YOU CAN MEET QUORUM. I'M FINE WITH IT. IT'S JUST THAT'S WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS YOU HAVE YOUR QUORUM. OKAY. MR. BREWER, I REALLY LIKE THE MONDAYS ON THE FOURTH, AND THE THURSDAYS AT THE END OF THE MONTH ARE GOING TO REALLY COME INTO HINDRANCE WITH THE HOLIDAYS COMING UP. THEY'RE BOTH ON THURSDAYS. SO IF WE WERE TO DO THIS, I WOULD WAIT TILL AFTER THE NEW YEAR TO GET INTO THE THURSDAYS. ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE HOLIDAY SEASON. BUT I, I, I MYSELF WOULDN'T MIND A SPLIT LIKE TUESDAYS AND FRIDAYS, MONDAY OR SOMETHING OR THURSDAY. MONDAY. NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME NIGHT. I KNOW MAYBE THAT OTHER FOLKS MIGHT LIKE THE SAME NIGHTS FOR CONSISTENCY, BUT I THINK WE NEED TWO MEETINGS TO KEEP THINGS MOVING ALONG. I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING FOR OUR BUSINESSES THAT IF SOMETHING GETS HUNG UP WITH WHATEVER ISSUE, THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE THINGS ALONG. THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THAT I WOULD PREFER AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE SCHEDULE. TRUST ME, IT WASN'T EASY TO GET TO THIS POINT, TO THIS RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT AT THE CALENDARS BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS AND, AND TALKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHAT THEY KNOW, THEIR INTEL, AND IF THEY WERE GOING TO ALSO INCREASE THEIR MEETING FREQUENCY TO GET YOU THE THIS PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. THE OTHER PART THAT THAT I LIKE IS BY GOING TO TWO MEETINGS A MONTH, YOU I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH GO TO PREDICTABILITY, BUT ALSO IT TAKES AWAY STAFF. BUT BEING IN A POSITION TO HAVING TO EXPLAIN WHY AND HOW THE REASONING BEHIND THE SPECIAL MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, THEN HAVING AN APPLICANT SAY, WELL, WHY DID YOU HAVE THIS SPECIAL MEETING? 
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AND YOU TOLD ME TO WAIT 30 DAYS AND IT'S LIKE, NO, WE'RE TREATING EVERYBODY THE SAME. WE ARE MEETING TWICE A MONTH. AND THAT'S JUST THEY MEET TWICE A MONTH AND THAT'S JUST IT. WHERE RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY WE'RE CALLING A SPECIAL MEETING, WE'RE CALLING IT LIKE BY THIS TIME IT'S ALREADY ON CALENDARS. AND I CAN TELL WE AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM CAN TELL THE APPLICANTS, IT'S TWICE A MONTH. WHENEVER WE DECIDE THAT, HOWEVER, WE DECIDE THAT SCHEDULE TO BE. THIS IS JUST A PROPOSAL. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT HAS TO BE. I'M JUST SHARING WITH YOU WHAT WE FOUND BASED ON OUR RESEARCH AND, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND UNDERSTANDING THE ROOM AVAILABILITIES AND ALL OF THAT. 
          AND THIS IS AN OPTION, I JUST SAY IS THAT IT'S AN OPTION. IS IT WOULD IT BE HELPFUL, MORE HELPFUL TO YOU GUYS IF WE STARTED AFTER THE FIRST OF THE CALENDAR YEAR? AND FOR ME, OKAY. 
          THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I HAVE IS BY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL MEETING, I WOULD JUST QUESTION, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR EFFICIENCY? LIKE NOW YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE BECAUSE I JUST CAME ON IN JULY, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE REPEATED LIKE WE LIKE SO LIKE EVEN WHATEVER THE THING IS WITH THE RED LINE, WE'VE USED THAT TIME, BUT WE'RE GOING TO REUSE THAT TIME. SO I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITY, MAYBE A SECOND MEETING IS NEEDED, BUT I THINK THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITY TO NOT REPEAT SOME CERTAIN AGENDA ITEMS. I REMEMBER WITH THE BUDGET, WELL, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE BUDGET TO ACTUAL, SO WE HAD TO DO THAT ONE OVER. SO I THINK THAT. THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME MORE EFFICIENCIES WITH THE MEETINGS THAT WE DO HAVE SO THAT WE DON'T REPEAT AGENDA ITEMS. I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT WAS THERE WOULD BE LIKE THE REVIEW. RIGHT? RIGHT. BECAUSE LIKE WE'RE DOING IT NOW. 
          OH WELL, WE HAD TO TABLE IT. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO START IT BACK UP AGAIN WHEN WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA AGAIN. YEAH. THE COMMITMENT TO DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME WOULD BE HELPFUL IN TERMS OF BEING EFFICIENT DOWN THE ROAD. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. YEAH THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE BECAUSE WE USE TIME EVERY TIME WE BRING IT UP. AND IF I MAY I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. AND TRUST ME, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE CONVERSATION AFTER THESE MEETINGS ABOUT EFFICIENCY, WHAT WORKED, WHAT DIDN'T WORK, AND WHAT ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS WE NEED TO BE MADE. I WILL SHARE THIS WITH YOU FOR STAFF'S OWN SELFISH REASONS. IF THERE IS A MEETING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SCHEDULE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PREPARE FOR, EVEN BETTER. SO TRUST ME THAT FROM A STAFF LEVEL, WE'RE NOT THRILLED WITH THE IDEA OF INCREASING THE MEETING FREQUENCY BECAUSE THAT JUST MEANS MORE WORK FOR US. BUT IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO GET BUSINESS DONE IN ONE MEETING AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR THE SECOND CALL, SECOND MEETING, WE WILL CANCEL THIS. SOME OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN RIGHT NOW IS REPETITIVE AND STUFF IS IN PART BECAUSE THE APPOINTMENT OF NEW BOARD MEMBERS, BRINGING THEM UP TO SPEED, KIND OF GOING THROUGH THAT JOURNEY, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING IN. SO IT'S TAKING A LITTLE BIT LONGER ON CERTAIN ITEMS, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT MOVING FORWARD, YOU WON'T SEE AS MUCH DISCUSSION AS MUCH OF THE SAME ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. WE'RE ALSO HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. SHELLY ABOUT HOW TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE AGENDA IN THE MANNER IN WHICH THE ITEMS ARE PRESENTED, TO SMOOTH LINE THE PRESENTATION OF THE ITEMS, THE APPROVAL OF IT, AND KEEP BUSINESS GOING IN AN ORDERLY FASHION AND REDUCE THE DURATION OF OR THE LENGTH OF THE MEETING. RIGHT? NO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THAT CONSIDERATION I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT SIMPLY, WE WERE ALL READY TO VOTE, BUT THEN THE DIVERSION WASN'T HERE. 
          AND I WANTED YOU GUYS. THAT WASN'T FOR, YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY WITH ALL OF THE INTENTION THAT Y'ALL PRESENTED. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT, WELL, SOMETIMES THERE WAS SOMETHING JUST NOT THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, AND SO THEN WE HAD TO JUST KIND OF DO IT AGAIN. THAT WAS IT. AND TRUST ME, I DID NOT WANT TO HAVE TO TABLE THAT ITEM BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR WEEKS. BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH BECAUSE IT ESTABLISHES THE FRAMEWORK FOR OUR WORK FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND MONTHS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ENTIRE BOARD WAS WORKING WITH THE RIGHT VERSION, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALL COMPLETELY ON BOARD BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. SO EVEN THOUGH TRUST ME, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A SMALL SETBACK, IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD. 
          WHILE THE STAFF REPORT IS A GOOD SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD DIDN'T FEEL THAT THEY WERE SHORTCHANGED BY NOT HAVING THE DOCUMENT. SO LIKE I SAID, DO I LIKE IT? NO, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON BOARD TO GET IT APPROVED AND JUST MOVE FORWARD, THAT'S ALL. SO IF. 
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THERE. OH YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I GET THE SENSE FROM THE BOARD THAT WE'RE NOT READY YET TO ADDRESS THIS WITH MISS SAVAGE NOT BEING HERE. SO TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP, THE BOARD IS NOW READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FOR THE NEXT AGENDA. AND HOPEFULLY BY THAT TIME WE WILL HAVE A FULL BOARD AND NO ONE WILL FEEL IMPOSED UPON BY THIS CHANGE BECAUSE IT IS A A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FOR FOR US AND YOU. BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION, JUST ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT IS IF YOU COULD EXPLORE THE COMMENT FROM MR. ZUCKER ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A HYBRID MONDAY, THURSDAY OR WHATEVER, OR FEASIBILITY, IF THAT'S ALSO AN OPTION, IF YOU CAN BRING THAT BACK DURING THE NEXT MEETING. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S AGAIN, THIS IS JUST OUR PROPOSAL. WE'RE REACHING OUT AND SOLICITING FEEDBACK. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH IT. FROM WHAT I HEAR, IT'S YES, TWO MEETINGS. THE QUESTION IS WHEN AND WHEN THROUGHOUT THE MONTH. AND AND I ALSO HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING TO SEE HOW PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, SEE HOW FAR ALONG THEY ARE IN INCREASING THEIR MEETING FREQUENCY BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR QUITE A FEW MONTHS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE READY TO PROCEED WITH WITH THAT OR NOT. THAT IF THEY DO, THAT COULD CREATE SOME CONFLICT WITH NOT SO MUCH WITH THE ROOM AVAILABILITY. AND ACTUALLY POSSIBLY IF THEY WANT TO HAVE BRIEFINGS, BRIEFINGS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AT 6:00 HERE IN THIS ROOM. SO I KNOW THAT THROUGH OUT HAVING A MEETING ON THE FOURTH MONDAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT WITH THAT. YES, IF I MAY. SO RIGHT NOW, IT'S STILL JUST ONE MEETING A MONTH FOR P AND Z. WE HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT GOING TO TWO, BUT BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, POSITIVITY TOWARDS THAT, YOU KNOW AT THIS POINT. SO I THINK FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE WE'RE PROBABLY AT ONE A MONTH, I KNOW WITH 103, WHICH IS THE OTHER MEETING ROOM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE HAD A MEETING A COUPLE OF TIMES. YOU KNOW, THAT SPACE. I GUESS THE ONLY LIMITATION WITH THAT IS IT'S RECORDING MEETINGS USING YOUTUBE AS OPPOSED TO SWAG. IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A PLATFORM. 
          BUT WE PUT BOTH VERSIONS OF MEETING RECORDINGS ON OUR WEBSITE. I MEAN, IF IF THE BOARD'S OPEN TO IT, I MEAN, WE COULD ALWAYS LOOK AT STILL KEEPING THE SECOND AND FOURTH MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH AND, BUT JUST DO IT ACROSS THE PARKING LOT OVER AT 103. I JUST I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS WERE ON THAT. BUT YOU KNOW OR WE COULD DO FOURTH MONDAY. WE COULD STILL KEEP IT HERE. AND THEN THE SECOND MONDAY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE P AND Z CONFLICT, WE COULD DO THE SECOND MONDAY OVER ACROSS THE PARKING LOT. DO THEY MEET ON THE SECOND MONDAY? THE PNC DOES MEET ON THE THE SECOND SECOND MONDAY. YES, MA'AM. HOW WOULD YOU SAY FROM WHEN WE PUT IT OUT AGAIN, MONDAYS DO WORK BETTER FOR ME. YEAH. OKAY. SO IN ORDER TO KEEP THE MONDAY SCHEDULE, WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT WHERE WE'RE JUST ONE FOURTH MONDAY OF THE MONTH IS HERE. AND THEN SECOND MONDAY OF THE MONTH ACROSS THE PARKING LOT. WELL, I MEAN, AS LONG AS IT'S CONSISTENT, I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH GOING TO ONE ROOM AND, YOU KNOW, TO ANOTHER ROOM FOR THE OTHER MEETING. AT LEAST IT'S NOT FAR. 
          SO IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU GOT TO GO BACK ON THE FREEWAY. SO WE VOTE TO TABLE IT. OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY, I HAD A QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT. I'M JUST CURIOUS. MISS THOMPSON, ARE YOU PRETTY GOOD WITH TWICE A MONTH? ACTUALLY, I'M SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A HARDSHIP IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK FOR ME. I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE WHEN THAT THAT INFORMATION, I MEAN, CAN WE I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYONE'S SCHEDULE IS FOR MEETING EARLIER IN THE DAY. I KNOW MOST OF US ARE PRETTY ENGAGED. YOU KNOW, DON'T BOTHER ME AT ALL. I THINK FOR PROBABLY A COUPLE OF US HERE, IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE. BUT I JUST YEAH, IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE FOR ME TO COMMIT, OKAY. DURING THE DAY. AND I KNOW, I KNOW, I JUST I JUST DO THAT. YEAH. I'M IN A DIFFERENT SPACE IN MY. YEAH, WE, WE THE TEAM LOOKED AT THAT AND FOR OUR SELFISH REASONS LIKE, 
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SURE, LET'S MEET DURING THE DAY. BUT KNOWING THAT A NUMBER OF MEMBERS ARE COMING FROM ANOTHER JOB FROM OTHER PLACES HAVE OTHER OBLIGATIONS, JUST LIKE WE DIDN'T EVEN TOUCH, WE JUST LEFT IT AT 6:00 BECAUSE WE JUST KNEW THAT THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE VIABLE. AND I JUST THINK FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT WE'RE ON A SET SCHEDULE, THAT IS GOOD INFORMATION FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THAT AT LEAST THEY KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON A SET SCHEDULE. AND IF THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA, SHAME ON THEM. BUT IT'S NOT LIKE A SPECIAL MEETING AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, WHAT'S GOING ON? WHY DO YOU GUYS NEED A SPECIAL MEETING? BUT I THINK REGULARLY SCHEDULED ONES, AND EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THAT MEETING AND WE CAN CANCEL IT, OKAY, NO BIG DEAL. IT'S GREAT TO CANCEL IT AND JUST MOVE ON. 
          MOTION TO TABLE. THIS ONE MONTH IS THERE IS THERE IS THERE A WAY TO LIKE BRING INFORMATION TO US AS TO LIKE HOW MANY APPLICATIONS THAT ARE THERE LIKE A LOT OF APPLICATIONS. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, I JUST CAME IN IN JULY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WAS A BACKUP OF APPLICATIONS OR AND IS THERE, IS THERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WAITING? THERE ARE ABOUT THREE APPLICATIONS RIGHT NOW THAT I'M WORKING ON THAT ARE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES. AND THERE'S HONESTLY THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF JUST POLICIES, PROCEDURES THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED. CALL THEM HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO FINALIZE HERE. AND THEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE REVIEW OF OF THE DESIGN DESIGN APPLICATIONS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING THOSE COME TO YOU IN THE SPRING. BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PLAN OUR YEAR OUT AND SAYING, ALL RIGHT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT ONCE THAT HAPPENS? AND WHAT KIND OF WORKLOAD IS THAT GOING TO BE? AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR CALENDARS, YOU KNOW, FOR BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW NOW, WHAT'S COMING AND PLANNING ACCORDINGLY. AND LIKE I SAID, IF IT'S A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS NO BUSINESS TO DISCUSS, WE'LL CANCEL IT. BUT AT LEAST IT'S ON. IT'S ON THE CALENDAR. OKAY. AND NOW, NOW, NOW REALLY FOR THEIR SAKES, IS IS A BETTER TIME TO END THAT CONVERSATION. BECAUSE THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE CHANGE IN THE CALENDAR YEAR, THINGS GET SCRAMBLED. SO NOT TO MENTION HOLIDAYS. BUT I'D LOVE TO HAVE A MEETING WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE AMBASSADOR VISITS, WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK WAS PROVIDED, AND SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM OUR BUSINESS VISITS. SO, LIKE I SAID, THAT KIND OF BUSINESS BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THIS EVENING, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM DOING 60 VISITS, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE OUTCOME OF SOME OF THOSE VISITS AND TO HEAR AND FOR THE BOARD TO HEAR THE OUTCOME OF THE AMBASSADOR. AND THAT'S THE TIME WHEN WE WOULD HAVE IT, WHEN WE'RE ALL TOGETHER. YOU GOT A MOTION ON TABLE. I. MOTION TO TABLE A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. PROBABLY MOVED AND SECONDED. LET US HAVE A VOICE VOTE. THOMPSON. ABNEY. 
          CARLTON. ZILKHA. HI, PAYNE. I YES, LUCAS. OKAY. ITEM D DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION 
          [8.d. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FORMATION OF A DCEDC SUB-COMMITTEE FOR PROJECT FOUTS LOCATED IN THE 300 BLOCK OF FOUTS AVENUE]
ON THE FORMATION OF A DC EDC SUBCOMMITTEE TO PROJECT FILES LOCATED IN THE 300 BLOCK OF FOUNTAIN AVENUE. STEPH. SO AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU HEARD A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT'S CONSULTANTS REGARDING A REHABILITATION OF OVER 100 UNITS IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX CONSISTING OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT SIZES, OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT UNIT SIZES AND CONDITIONS OF THE UNITS. WITH THAT CAME A PROPOSAL FOR IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS REPLACEMENT OF WINDOWS, DOORS, ROOFS, LANDSCAPING, AND SITE ENHANCEMENTS THAT WERE PART OF THE REQUESTED FUNDING SUPPORT. THE INTERIOR ENHANCEMENTS AND UPGRADES WERE TO BE TAKEN ON BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT GIVEN THE SCALE OF THE REQUEST, THIS TYPE OF REQUEST I SPECIFICALLY THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, WARRANTS A VERY SPECIFIC, DETAILED REVIEW OF THE FUNDING AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS PROJECT. SO WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS PUTTING TOGETHER A FOCUSED VIEW OUTSIDE OF THE DCDC REGULAR MEETINGS. THIS IS JUST I THINK I HEARD FEEDBACK FROM A FEW BOARD MEMBERS THAT AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE LAST PRESENTATION, FOR THIS MATTER, THERE WAS JUST TOO MUCH, TOO FAST GOING, GOING ON. AND SO THAT SAID, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY THE SCOPE AND FUNDING REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW WHETHER THE IMPROVEMENTS OR 
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REPLACEMENTS OR OR UPGRADES, AND HAVE THIS SUBCOMMITTEE PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE FULL BOARD ON THE MERITS OF THE REQUEST. THE ROLE OF THOSE MEMBERS ON THIS SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD WOULD BE TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT AND CONSULTANT TEAM. I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE. REVIEW FINANCIALS, TIMELINES AND PROJECT PLANS. ASSESS ECONOMIC AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT, AND REVIEW AND REPORT FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE ENTIRE DC EDC. CONSULTANT REVIEW. WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HIRE A CONSULTANT TO DO AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF SOME OF THE MATERIAL PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, SUCH AS THE RENT ROLLS, THE OPERATING EXPENSES, THE ROI, THE CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATES, THE REVIEW, THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND MARKET CONDITIONS. BY HAVING A CONSULTANT ON OUR SIDE, WE ENSURE THAT THE FIGURES GIVEN TO US ARE REASONABLE, REALISTIC AND WITH AND IN LINE WITH MARKET TIME. THE MARKET TRENDS. WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS FOR THE DC, DC TO CONSIDER ASKING THE APPLICANT TO REIMBURSE THE DCDC FOR THE USE OF THIS CONSULTANT TO REVIEW THE FINANCIALS AS PART OF THE APPLICATION REQUEST. THIS IS A PROJECT SPECIFIC REQUEST AND STAFF IS WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE US WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT IN ADVANCE, OR STRETCH IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT AT THE END, IT'S NOT THE DC EDC PAYING FOR THE REVIEW OF THESE FINANCIAL REPORTS. SO THE RECOMMENDATION THIS EVENING IS FOR THE DC EDC TO APPROVE THE FORMATION OF A SUBCOMMITTEE, ONE TO APPOINT MEMBERS OF THE DC, DC TO THIS SUBCOMMITTEE, THREE TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO SOLICIT CONSULTANT PROPOSALS FOR THE REVIEW OF THIS REQUEST, AND FOUR TO CONSIDER APPLICANT REIMBURSEMENT OF THE CONSULTANT COSTS. OTHERWISE, WE CAN JUST HAVE THAT AS PART OF OUR DC, DC OPERATING. AND WE COULD JUST CALL THAT AS PART OF DOING BUSINESS. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO MR. BARRERA ON THIS ITEM. YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION, BUT I REMEMBER WELL, I DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER OR NOT THE DC DC HAD A ITS OWN TOOL TO ASSESS THESE IN THE PAST. COULD WE USED TO HAVE A METRICS FOR THESE LARGE INCENTIVES THAT WOULD SCORE THEM? AND IF IT FELL WITHIN LIKE A 5 TO 7 OR PAYBACK PERIOD, IT WAS PRETTY MUCH A GOAL, YOU KNOW, OR ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT. AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THAT WAS DONE IN HOUSE OR WAS DONE EXTERNALLY USING THE CONSULTANT, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE SOME FORM OF METRICS LIKE THAT THAT ALLOWS US TO MEASURE EACH OF THESE LARGER INCENTIVES ON THE SAME SCALE. AND WHILE THAT IS USING AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT COST IS OR IF THERE'S AN, YOU KNOW, A TOOL THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, INTERNAL TO THE STAFF, SURE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. BUT IF THIS IS THE WAY FORWARD, I WOULD CONSIDER THAT AS WELL. 
          JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE COST IS. AND I THINK THE QUESTION WOULD BE IS IF WE'RE ASKING FOR THE APPLICANT TO REIMBURSE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE CONTINGENT UPON THEM ACTUALLY RECEIVING THE GRANT. IF WE DENIED THE GRANT, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD BE A COST THAT THE EDC WOULD BEAR. AND I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE AS A CONSIDERATION FOR BEING BUSINESS FRIENDLY. SO JUST ALL THOSE THINGS I SAID, PROBABLY ABOUT 5 OR 10 DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THOSE ARE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I, I HEARD COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD ABOUT THE SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THE AND OPINIONS BEING OUT THERE OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST BEING A BIT TOO HIGH, QUESTIONING, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WERE COMPARED TO OTHER, YOU KNOW, AND SO BY HIRING CONSULTANT THAT DOES THIS KIND OF STUFF FOR A LIVING. YES. THE COSTS ARE IN LINE. NO THEY'RE NOT, THERE'S TOO MUCH TOO LITTLE. AND SO WE IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE SOMEONE ON OUR SIDE TO EVALUATE THOSE COSTS FOR US. I THINK THE ISSUE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS THE THE DC EDC HAS THE TOOLS TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT A PROJECT IS GOOD BASED ON THE NUMBERS. IT'S ARE THESE GOOD NUMBERS IN THIS CASE IS, I THINK, WHAT THE STAFF IS ASKING BECAUSE IT'S YOU KNOW, THEY CAN THE APPLICANT CAN TELL US ONE THING, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE INDUSTRY THAT CAN EVALUATE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, IT'S HARD TO APPLY THE THE PAYBACK PERIOD THE RIGHT WAY. NO. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THE WAY THE 
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NUMBERS WERE PRESENTED WASN'T CLEAR. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A MATTER OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROJECT OR THE WAY THEY WERE PRESENTED FROM THE APPLICANT. THAT'S REALLY ON THE ONUS OF THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT IN A WAY IN WHICH THIS BOARD CAN MAKE A A, A FAIR AND EQUITABLE AND WISE DECISION. I KIND OF FELT THE SAME WAY ABOUT HOW IT WAS PRESENTED. IT WAS IT JUST SEEMED TO BE. NOT REAL. READY TO BE PRESENTED IN A I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT. I KIND OF FELT THAT TOO, BUT I UNDERSTAND TRYING TO FIND A PATH FORWARD, YOU KNOW, AND I AND I APPRECIATE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, IS TRYING TO FIND A PATH FORWARD BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE AN APPLICANT ASKING FOR OVER $6 MILLION OF CITY ASSISTANCE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME WAS THAT THE CITY HAD AN APPLICATION OF THIS SIZE TO REVIEW. SO I THINK RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE HAVING IS ONE, HOW DO WE MANAGE AN APPLICATION OF THIS SIZE, THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT? BUT TWO, MORE THAN ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT TO TO ASSESS AND EVALUATE THE NUMBERS WITHOUT HAVING A TEAM ON YOUR SIDE, LETTING YOU KNOW IF THE NUMBERS ARE GOOD OR NOT. AND TWO, IT'S IT'S A LOT TO PROCESS IN THE COURSE OF A MEETING WITH A FULL BOARD THAT A SUBCOMMITTEE KEEPS THINGS MOVING FORWARD. AND SO AFTER THE MEETING, I PROVIDED THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT WE NEED FINANCIAL DATA. AND SO ONCE WE GET THEM, WE'RE HOPING TO BE IN A POSITION TO HOPEFULLY, IF THE BOARD AGREES WITH THIS DIRECTION, THEN COLLABORATE WITH THE HIRED CONSULTANT TO REVIEW THOSE FINANCIALS, REVIEW THE NUMBERS AND PROVIDE US WITH SOME ASSESSMENT. AND THEN, YES, WE CAN USE OUR CREATED METRICS SYSTEM, BUT WE CAN USE THAT AND WE CAN DO THAT WORK BEHIND THE SCENES. SO IT DOESN'T ALL COME TO A SCREECHING HALT. AND WE DON'T HAVE FIND OURSELVES HAVING THESE KIND OF KIND OF CONVERSATION ON A REGULAR AGENDA EVENING, IF YOU WILL. 
          BUT WE CAN HAVE A WORKING GROUP OF THE CDC WORKING WITH STAFF, THE APPLICANT TO REVIEW IT AND BRING IT FORWARD WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT AND YOU DON'T FEEL THE WAY YOU FELT AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU KNOW WHERE IT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION. YOU FELT THAT IT WASN'T WELL PUT TOGETHER. AND SO THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THROUGH THOSE DETAILS AND GIVE YOU A MORE POLISHED ONE. REQUEST THE TWO PRESENTATIONS. SO IS THERE CONSENSUS AGREEMENT THAT WE DO NEED TO UTILIZE THE SERVICES OF A THIRD PARTY TO LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT? EXCUSE ME, I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. HAVING THAT OUTSIDE INDEPENDENT VIEW, THE FINANCIALS, THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO? YES, SIR. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS I MISSED LAST MEETING, SO I APOLOGIZE IF I DUPLICATING ANY QUESTIONS. THE FINANCIALS, IF THEY'RE PRESENTED TO US, WOULD THEY BE PRESENTED TO US IN OPEN SESSION OR CLOSED SESSION. SOME OF THE FINANCIALS WERE PRESENTED LAST MEETING IN OPEN SESSION. SO HIS FINANCIALS ARE FAIRLY OPEN. SO WOULDN'T IT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO DO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE OF THOSE FINANCIALS? I WOULD SEEK SOME GUIDANCE FROM FROM OUR ATTORNEY. THE FINANCIALS THAT WERE PRESENTED THE LAST MEETING WERE PRESENTED IN A PRESENTATION FROM FROM FROM HIM. 
          SO HE'S ESSENTIALLY OPENED UP HIS RECORDS. OKAY. SO IT WASN'T NECESSARILY WHEN WE WHEN WE SAY FINANCIAL, WE'RE GOING TO BE CLEAR NOT NECESSARILY COMPANY FINANCIALS IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY'RE DOING AS A COMPANY. WHEN WE SAY FINANCIALS, IT WAS WE'LL SAY THE THE PROJECT STOCK SOURCES AND USES WHAT THEY THOUGHT THE PROJECT WOULD GENERATE. RIGHT. THE THE BUDGET BREAKDOWN ON WHAT THE EXPENSES WOULD BE ALLOCATED FOR. AND THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERED THE QUESTION, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT HOW SOLID OR RELIABLE ARE THESE PROJECTIONS. SO JUST THAT POINT OF CLARIFICATION, LIKE OPENING UP BOOKS, MAYBE A BETTER WORD. 
          IT WASN'T THAT CATEGORY OF FINANCES. MORE ABOUT PROJECT FINANCIALS, RIGHT? THE FINANCES OF THE PROJECT PROJECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THERE'S TWO SIDES OF IT. SORRY. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. THERE'S TWO SIDES OF IT. THERE'S HIS INVESTMENT SIDE AND THEN THERE'S THE REVENUE SIDE OF HIS TENANTS GOING FORWARD. IS THAT PART OF THE FINANCIALS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS? THAT'S PART OF THE PROJECTED RETURN WOULD BE PROFORMA OKAY. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE ABOUT TOWARDS CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE PROJECT SITE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. I THINK IF THIS BOARD IS PUT TOGETHER A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, WHICH I'M 
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LEANING TOWARDS PUBLIC WORKS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT PARTY WOULD COME IN TO SAY, WELL, WE AS A CITY CAN SUPPORT THIS SIDEWALK WORK OR THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE WORK, OR DO THE WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES ALL NEED IMPROVEMENT AND GET INPUT ON THAT? BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT A HUGE INVESTMENT INTO A SITE, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT HOLISTICALLY AND NOT JUST TOWARDS HIS REQUEST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY. SO I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE, AND THEN WE'LL CREATE SCOPE CREEP ON WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. BUT I THINK FROM A BIGGER PICTURE, PART OF ME SAYS THAT'S PART OF THE PRESENTATION FROM CITY STAFF THAT SAYS, YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. BUT IF THERE ARE INVESTMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE FOR MAKING THE AREA BETTER FOR ADA REQUIREMENTS OR JUST BEAUTIFUL, MAKING IT A BEAUTIFUL AREA TO MATCH WHEATLAND PLAZA AND KEEP THAT FLOW GOING, THEN THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ME. I'M SORRY. YOU HAVE A QUESTION. IF YOU WERE RESPONDING TO HIM, THAT WAS I CAN I CAN WAIT, OKAY. THANK YOU. SO AT A STAFF LEVEL WE HAVE SHARED WITH THE OWNER AND THE OWNER, THE OWNERS, APPLICANTS THAT THE CITY'S DESIRES FOR THE CITY TO ASSUME CONTROL OF THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE CITY IS BETTER AND BEST SUITED TO TAKE ON THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST WHAT THE CITY DOES. 
          AND ALSO THE CITY IS IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN LOOK FOR AVAILABLE GRANTS OUT THERE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE, WHERE THAT MIGHT THOSE TYPE OF RESOURCES MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE APPLICANT IF THEY WERE TAKING UPON THEMSELVES. AND WE CAN WE CAN ROLL THOSE UP. THOSE IMPROVEMENTS INTO THE CITY'S CIP PROGRAM OR CIP PLAN, IF YOU WILL. SO WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT. AND THIS INSTANCE, YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE APPLICANT WANTED TO PROCEED WITH THE REQUEST. BUT THAT'S THAT'S AN ANSWER THAT WE COULD PROVIDE BACK. AGAIN, TO REITERATE THE FACT THAT NO, WE WANT TO HAVE WE THE CITY WANT TO BE IN CONTROL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, AND WE WANT TO SEPARATE THAT OUT, BECAUSE ONE OTHER TOPIC IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS. AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT. I'M FAMILIAR WITH. 
          AND HOW THOSE MAY OR MAY NOT BE A TARGET FOR THAT AREA. SO WE ONLY WE'RE NOT A WE'LL SAY CERTAIN CITIES, YOU KNOW, THEY RECEIVE DIRECT FUNDING FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, HUD USUALLY CITIES WITH POPULATIONS, YOU KNOW, HALF A MILLION OR MORE. THIS CITY GETS FUNDING FROM DALLAS COUNTY AND IT'S ON THE EVERY OTHER YEAR BASIS. AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS OR CITY ADMINISTRATION DECIDES WHERE WE USE THE FUNDING. AND THEN TO YOUR POINT, HAS TO BE CENSUS TRACT ELIGIBLE, THEN ACTIVITY HAS TO BE ELIGIBLE. SO IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THAT INCREMENTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY. THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT. YEAH. 
          HISTORICALLY THEY'VE USED IT ON SOME INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, AT LEAST IN THE RECENT PAST. 
          THAT'S WHAT THAT FUNDING HAS BEEN ALLOCATED FOR. YEAH. AND I'M SORRY, YOU HAD A QUESTION FROM THE FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE. AND THIS MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. SO WITH THE LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION THE SIZE OF THIS. WOULD THE OUTSIDE GROUP VERIFY THE I GUESS. THE THE BALANCE SHEET? I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF A BETTER WORD. BUT THE BALANCE SHEET OF THAT THE OTHER ENTITY IS KIND OF LIKE AS TO THEIR ABILITY TO DO THEIR PART, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. KIND OF LIKE, IS THERE SOMEONE WITH IT BEING SO LARGE? I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE WISE FOR US TO PROTECT OURSELVES. AND IF WE'RE COMING IN WITH THIS BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE THIS, WILL WE BE VERIFYING OR THEIR ABILITY TO SUPPORT WHATEVER THEY'RE SAYING? THEY'RE. AND THAT'S WHY I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. THEY'RE PUTTING IN I KNOW THAT IT'S THE PROJECTED, I KNOW IT'S PROJECTED, BUT WE ALSO MAY NEED THE CURRENT ABILITY, COLLATERAL ABILITY TO BE BANKABLE KIND OF 
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DEAL. YES. AND THAT'S WHERE OUR HOPE IS THAT WE WOULD HIRE A CONSULTANT TO HELP US GO THROUGH THAT AND REVIEW THEIR FINANCIALS. YOU KNOW, ANY MORTGAGES, ANY CURRENT OBLIGATIONS. YOU KNOW, WHAT IS DO THEY HAVE ANY MONEY IN SOME BAG AND IN RESERVES? YOU JUST HAVE US REALLY CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND SEE IF THERE IS A POTENTIAL BUDGET PROJECT GAP, OR IF THIS IS POTENTIALLY A SITUATION WHERE THE OWNER MAY HAVE THE FUNDS, BUT JUST SEEKING THE FUNDS TO FROM THE CORPORATION AND NOT TO USE THEM FROM THEIR OWN MEANS FOR LACK OF SAYING LIKE SAVINGS ACCOUNT OR MORTGAGE AND THE OTHER THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TO THROUGH THE PROCESS WOULD VET OUT IS WHAT WOULD QUALIFY FROM THE USE OF SALES TAX DOLLARS FOR A PROJECT OF THIS TYPE OF THIS SCALE. SO THERE'S SO MANY DETAILS, THERE'S SO MANY THAT IT'S JUST IT'S A BIT DIFFICULT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION TO JUST SAY ON A REGULARLY SCHEDULED EVENING WITH THE FULL BOARD, THAT I THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE TO WALK THROUGH THOSE DETAILS, REVIEW THE FINANCIALS AT LENGTH, AND THEN COME BACK WITH AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF THE FINANCIALS, AND POSSIBLY EVEN HAVE A CONSULTANTS WALK THROUGH WHAT THEY REVIEWED, WHAT THEY SAW, YOU KNOW, HIGH POINTS, LOW POINTS TO THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. AND I JUST DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE CONSULTANT REVIEW. I GUESS THAT WAS MY POINT. SO WOULD THE CONSULTANT BE DOING THAT AS WELL? IN ADDITION TO LOOKING AT THE PROJECT AND MAKING AND WE KNOW THE PROJECT IS LOOKING EVALUATED FROM HERE GOING FORWARD. BUT WITH THAT CONSULTANT SCOPE, ALSO LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER LIENS, DEBTS, OTHER THINGS THAT COULD COME FORWARD. YOU KNOW, ARE THEY EVALUATING THAT TOO, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD COME UP? SURE. GOOD QUESTION. MY THOUGHT RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE CONSULTANT WOULD REVIEW EVERYTHING AS IT RELATED TO THE FINANCIALS. WE WOULD WORK WITH MR. SHELBY TO LOOK AT LIENS, FINANCE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PART, AND THEN ALSO WORK WITH MR. SHELBY ON UNDERSTANDING WHAT LEGALLY QUALIFIES FOR FUNDING. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON MANY PARALLEL TRACKS. I WANT TO TAKE A STEP BACK. I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT I REALLY WANT TO ASK IS WHAT IS THE GATE LIKE? WHAT IS THE GATE FOR THE STAFF THAT YOU BRING A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE TO THIS GROUP THAT IS READY TO REVIEW, LIKE WHAT IS THAT GATE LIKE? WHAT SIGNIFIES THIS IS READY FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE EDC. I KNOW, MAYBE KIND OF A LOADED QUESTION, BUT NO, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WHAT SIGNIFIES IT'S READY IS US UNDERSTANDING UNDERSTANDING THEIR FINANCIALS UNDERSTANDING IF THERE'S TRUE INDEED PROJECT GAP UNDERSTANDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A REPLACEMENT AND AN UPGRADE, UNDERSTANDING WHAT QUALIFIES FOR BORDERS, THE USE OF SALES TAX DOLLARS FOR A PROJECT OF THIS SCALE. RUNNING RUNNING REVENUE PROJECTIONS. YOU KNOW, IF YOU INVEST THIS KIND OF DOLLAR INTO THIS PROJECT, WHAT ARE THE PROJECTED PROPERTY TAX REVENUE? WHAT IS ALL OF THAT? AND THEN HAVING THAT AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER THE FULL STORY RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO TELL YOU THE FULL STORY. IS THAT THE ONUS OF YOU OR IS THAT THE ONUS OF THE OWNER? AND THAT'S NOT LIKE A TAG, BUT IS THAT IS THAT ON YOU, OR IS THAT BECAUSE THE OWNER DIDN'T PROVIDE THE INFORMATION? AND IS THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF STAFF TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION OR THE OWNER? AND WHEN WE HIRE THIS CONSULTANT, ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO DO THEIR ANALYSIS BASED UPON WHAT THE APPLICANT'S ALREADY PROVIDED OR CAN PROVIDE? NO. 
          GOOD QUESTION. SO WHAT WE ASK FROM THE CONSULTANT IS TO PROVIDE US WITH AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE STORY. WE HAVE INSTANCES WHERE THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THE PRESENTATION. DESPITE OUR DESIRE TO HAVE THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO TELL THE FULL STORY. AND IN SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, WE ARE UNFORTUNATELY, GIVEN THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF INFORMATION, STAFF IS NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU ONE WITH A VERY THOROUGH STAFF ANALYSIS OR FOR THAT MATTER, A RECOMMENDATION, AND WE WILL LAY THAT OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT SAYING, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID FOR THE LAST. WE LAID IT OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT AND SAID HERE, WE DON'T HAVE THESE DOCUMENTS, WE DON'T HAVE THIS IS WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDS WITH THIS ITEM. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA AS TO OR HAS HE LET YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT HE'S READY TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THESE IMPROVEMENTS, OR IS HE GOING TO WAIT FOR US TO PAY AND THEN LAUNCH THINGS? WHAT HE HAS SHARED WITH US IS THAT HE IS READY TO MOVE WITH THE WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HE'S TALKED TO THE BANK AND HE'S HE'S THAT MUCH CLOSER TO SECURING THE FUNDING FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS. HE JUST WANTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION FROM THE CDC. I'M SORRY, MR. ROFF. YEAH. I'M 
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SORRY, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. AND, YOU KNOW, ANGEL AND I WERE JUST TALKING. FIRST OF ALL, DOES EVERYBODY KNOW ANGEL? ANGEL? DEAL. SHE'S OUR PROJECT MANAGER IN CITY ADMINISTRATION. 
          YEAH, SHE'S BEEN WITH US FOR SINCE DECEMBER. TWO DAYS NOW? YEAH. AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF TALKING A LITTLE BIT HERE, BUT I WONDER IF THERE'S THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO. AND YOU MADE ME THINK OF THIS A LITTLE BIT TOO, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD KIND OF CRAFT SOME MINIMUM, YOU KNOW, I'LL CALL THEM GUARDRAILS OR REQUIREMENTS. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MAYBE WHAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTED, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE. AND THEN GO BACK TO, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT AND SAY, LOOK, THIS IS THESE ARE THE THE GUARDRAILS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THEN HAVE THEM RESPOND BACK TO, TO OUR REQUEST AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'D BE AMENABLE TO. YEAH. JUST KIND OF COME UP WITH LIKE A MINIMUM BENCHMARK ALMOST, IF I MAY, IN THE SPIRIT OF FULL TRANSPARENCY, WE'VE ALREADY HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT. AND HERE RECENTLY WITH THE APPLICANT'S CONSULTANTS, I THINK I CAN COUNT THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT MYSELF AND MISS PEREZ HAVE BEEN IN THE MEETINGS WITH THE OWNER AND THE CONSULTANT SAYING, HERE'S WHAT WE NEED HERE, BUT WE GET THESE KIND OF SUBMITTALS. SO WE'VE WALKED THEM THROUGH SOME OF SOME OF THIS. SO IT'S NOT NEW AND IT SHOULDN'T BE NEW. BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE AN APPLICANT THAT DESPITE WHAT WE'VE TOLD THEM AT A STAFF LEVEL, THEY FEEL IT NECESSARY TO HEAR IT FROM THE BOARD. AND IN THOSE INSTANCES WE CAN'T. AND THIS IS WHAT I TOLD STAFF, WE WE CAN'T WE CAN'T HOLD BACK THE APPLICATION. THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO PROCEED. WHAT WE TRY TO TELL THEM AT STAFF LEVEL IS THAT WE WANT THE BEST AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE STORY. IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE US, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE A STAFF ANALYSIS AND A STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT YOU HAVE INSTANCES WHERE DESPITE THE CONVERSATIONS, DESPITE THE COMMUNICATION VIA EMAIL, THEY STILL WANT TO BE HEARD, THEY WANT THEIR TIME RUN UP. AND THIS IS UNFORTUNATE. 
          WELL, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. WITHOUT GETTING TOO DEEP INTO INTO THE CONVERSATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO WE SAY, OKAY, COME TO THE BOARD, MAKE THE CASE. HE COMES TO THE BOARD, MAKES HIS CASE, AND WE SAY. YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN US ANY INFORMATION SO WE CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN. WE DID COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICANT'S CONSULTANT AT THE AFTER THIS LAST MEETING, AND WE'VE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THEM. WE PROVIDED THEM A LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HEARD FROM THE BOARD, EVERYTHING WHAT WE NEEDED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. AND WE'VE NOT HEARD BACK AS TO THE TIMING OF THEIR APPLICATION. 
          THE THE TIME, EXCUSE ME, NOT SO MUCH THE TIMING, BUT HOW ABOUT THIS? EXCUSE ME FOR AN AVERAGE AS OF A CERTAIN DATE, YOU MUST PROVIDE TO US THE INFORMATION THAT WE REQUIRE TO MAKE A DECISION. IF WE DO NOT HEAR FROM YOU BY THAT POINT, THEN WE ARE NOT ABLE TO PARTICIPATE WITH YOU IN THIS PROJECT. IN TRUE. NO PROBLEM. OKAY. BUT WE THE THE ITEM WAS TABLED TO AN UNSPECIFIED TIME SO WE COULD SEND THAT OUT. WE WON'T BE BACK FROM 30 DAYS. WELL, WE WERE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE IN THE EVENT THAT THEY HEARD BACK THAT 30 DAYS FROM NOW, WE WEREN'T SEEKING THE FORMATION OF A COMMITTEE, A CONSULTANT, THAT WE WERE IN A SITUATION THAT WOULD BE PROACTIVE AND NOT BEING REACTIVE TO IT, JUST TO MOVE THINGS ALONG, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, THE THE CDC MEETING EVERY 30 DAYS. SO WE WANTED TO BE IN A POSITION THAT IF THIS CAME BACK AND SAY, HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING TOMORROW, THAT THERE WAS A THERE WAS A FORMATION OF A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WE WERE READY TO MOVE FORWARD, AND WE DIDN'T TELL THE APPLICANT, OH, THANK YOU. NOW WAIT 30 DAYS, BECAUSE NOW WE GOT TO TAKE THIS BACK TO THE TO THE CDC TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO DO A SUBCOMMITTEE AND A CONSULTANT, AGAIN, TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE AND TRYING TO ANTICIPATE AND BE AHEAD OF THE NEXT MOVE. BUT WE CAN WE CAN RELAY THAT, JUST FYI, TO AVOID UNDER THE CURRENT BYLAWS. AND IT'S STILL IN THE PROPOSED BYLAWS, THE PRESIDENT HAS THE POWER TO APPOINT A COMMITTEE INDEPENDENT OF THE BOARD. SO IF THE BOARD STAFF THINKS THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMMITTEE THAT HAS TO CONVINCE MR. HARVEY TO APPOINT ONE, WELL, I KNOW WHO I WANT ON THE BOARD. 
          WELL, I MEAN, JUST JUST JUST JUST JUST JUST THINK ABOUT IT. IT HAS TO BE SOMEONE WHO 
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UNDERSTANDS. THIS LANGUAGE. I MEAN, I, I'M LIKE, JUST THIS SIDE OF USELESS ON STUFF LIKE THAT. I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL SHOW UP IF YOU ALL APPOINT ME, BUT KEEP THE EXPECTATIONS REAL LOW. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AT VERY LEAST MR. BROUGHTON ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. AND. IF, IF, IF HE'S WILLING TO DO IT, THEN, HEY, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO PITCH IN THERE WITH HIM. OR IF WE COULDN'T GET MR. BROUGHTON AND. WE GET MISS ABNEY OR MISS THOMPSON. BUT WE CAN'T WE WE CAN'T LEAVE WITH HARVEY. CAN'T DO IT, AS THEY SAY IN TEXAS. THAT DOG WON'T HUNT. SO. BUT WHATEVER THE BOARD WANTS TO DO. I'M FOR IT. I MEAN, I DON'T MIND AS LONG AS IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE BELIEVE IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO PURSUE. I WANT TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR TIME AND OUR ENERGY, AND JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE BELIEVE IN THIS, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THEY, THE APPLICANT, CAN PULL THIS OFF. IT'S KIND OF A ROADBLOCK TO MR. HARVEY PERSONALLY. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO IN MY POSITION AS PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BOARD. SO THERE YOU HAVE IT. BROWSER WANTS TO DO IT AND THE BOARD WANTS TO PURSUE IT. AND I'M ROBIN, HE'S BATMAN. YEAH. MR. ZUCKERMAN. MR. SOLOMON. OH, MISSUS. I'M SORRY. OKAY. OH, YOU. OH, YOU. OH, OKAY. SO IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH. I DEAL WITH IN ALL THE CITIES ALL THE TIME. 30 DAYS IS FINE. I'LL JUST DELETE ALL THE TIME. BUT THIS IS LIFE. OH, SORRY, I FORGOT ABOUT YOU. YOU SHOULD DO IT. YOU COULD BE ON THE COMMITTEE I BARELY MAKE. I DON'T NEED TO DO THAT. NO. MISS. YES, WE NEED TWO MEETINGS. I'M LIKE, IF IT'S ON. YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY. SORRY. I'M JUST TRYING TO BE INCLUSIVE. YEAH. AND THAT'S NOT. NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. RIGHT. WELL, I'M FINE WITH IT. IS. I'M SO SORRY. NO. YOU'RE FINE. SO I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE CONSULTANTS. ARE YOU LOOKING AT AN INDIVIDUAL OR A FIRM TO ASSIST WITH THIS? I'M THINKING A FIRM. I'M THINKING A FIRM. SO THE BILLING POTENTIALLY WOULD ORDER OF MAGNITUDE. MIGHT THIS FIRM CHARGE THIS BOARD? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEKING. GUIDANCE. I'M SEEKING AUTHORITY TO GET PROPOSALS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE COULD DO IS JUST IT WAS SUGGESTED THIS EVENING WE COULD GIVE THE APPLICANT A DEADLINE AND SAY, WE PROVIDED YOU WE'VE REQUESTED THIS MATERIAL. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GIVE IT? OR PLANNING ON COMING BACK TO THE BOARD WITH THESE FINANCIALS. AND THEN BASED OFF OF THAT WE CAN TAKE ADDITIONAL ACTION. 
          BECAUSE THIS IS HONESTLY THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TOO LONG. WELL I SAID AT LEAST. YEAH, THAT'S TOO LONG. THEY'VE TIMED OUT MORE THAN A YEAR. I WANT TO BE FAIR. IT'S BEEN SOME TIME. YEAH. NOT RESPONSIVE. IT'S BEEN SOME TIME, BUT ONLY UNTIL RECENTLY DID THE PROPERTY OWNER HIRE A CONSULTANT. THAT CONSULTANT WAS HIRED IN MARCH, I BELIEVE. AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE THEY'VE BEEN THAT THEY'VE PRESENTED THIS LEVEL OF INFORMATION. SO BEFORE THAT, IT WAS THE PROPERTY OWNER JUST DOING IT ON HIS OWN AS BEST AS HE COULD. AND SO I'M GLAD THAT HE'S HIRED AND OBTAINED SOME ASSISTANCE. BUT LIKE I SAID, THE LAST PRESENTATION BEFORE LAST MEETING WAS BACK IN MARCH, AND THAT WAS THE I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE FIRST DAY THAT THE CONSULTANT HAD BEEN GOT. 
          LITERALLY THE DAY OF THE MEETING WAS WHEN CONSULTANT WAS HIRED. IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY. AND SO THE THE CONSULTANT HAS BEEN WORKING WITH HIS CLIENT OR THE 
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APPLICANT FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS. I'M PUTTING THIS PACKAGE TOGETHER. SO HOW MUCH OF THE FINANCE PAPERWORK THAT HE TAKES TO THE BANK TO DO ANY LOANS OR ANYTHING WOULD CARRY OVER TO OUR CONSULTANT, SO IT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF BURDEN ON THEM TO PUT MATERIAL TOGETHER. HOW MUCH COULD BE SYNERGIZED? WE COULD FIGURE THAT OUT AS SOON AS WE KNOW WE HAVE MORE FINANCIALS TO WORK THROUGH, BECAUSE THEORETICALLY, SHOULDN'T THE BANK BE ASKING VERY SIMILAR QUESTIONS? YES. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING. IF THE BANK IS ASKING, WE SHOULD SEE IT AS WELL TO UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL AND THE DEGREE OF OUR PARTICIPATION. 
          BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, UNDERSTAND WHETHER OR NOT THROUGH OUR ADOPTED POLICIES AND THROUGH THE STATUTES IN PLACE, IF WE ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A PROJECT OF THIS LEVEL OF THIS MAGNITUDE. SO AT THIS POINT, I JUST SEEK DIRECTION. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TABLE? AND I HEARD QUITE A BIT OF FEEDBACK. ONE OF THEM BEING GIVING THE APPLICANT A DROP DEAD DATE TO SUBMIT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. OTHERWISE WE CONSIDER THIS ITEM DONE AND WE MOVE ON. SO HOW IS THE BOARD FEELING? I MEAN, HAVE YOU REQUESTED INFORMATION? YOU STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT. AND I THINK WE GIVE THEM THAT LAST 30 DAYS TO PROVIDE IT. OKAY. BEFORE WE INVEST ADDITIONAL DOLLARS AND TIME INTO THIS. 
          OKAY. AND NEEDS TO MEET CRITERIA LIKE IT SHOULDN'T JUST BE SUBMITTED TO YOU TO EXTEND. 
          OKAY. THIS IS PROLONGING IT TO THIS WAY TOO MUCH. IT'S BEEN A YEAR. THE OTHER QUESTION I WOULD HAVE ALSO WOULD BE, I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES CONSULTING WITH THE ATTORNEYS TO DETERMINE WHICH OF THE THINGS WE COULD ACTUALLY DO. SHOULD WE DO THAT SOONER THAN LATER? AS FAR AS FINDING OUT WHAT OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, WE COULD WE CAN, BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T BE INVOLVED IN IT, WHY WOULD WE DO A SUBCOMMITTEE AND PAY A CONSULTANT IF THESE ARE THINGS THAT MAY BE ARE NOT FITTING? WE'VE DONE SOME PRELIMINARY RESEARCH TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT QUALIFY, BUT WITHOUT HAVING MORE INFORMATION, WE CAN'T COME TO A COMPLETE DETERMINATION OF THE LEVEL OF ELIGIBILITY. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE PROPOSAL WAS COMMERCIAL UNITS. SO THAT'S CREATION OF JOBS. BUT THEN WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF JOBS, WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES. SO WE I THINK IT WAS PRESENTED THERE WOULD BE THE CREATION OF TEN COMMERCIAL UNITS. BUT WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE SIZE, WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS, WHAT KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN. SO WE UNDERSTAND THE DEGREE OF OF COMMERCIAL JOBS, ALL OF THAT. SO WE HAVE A BIT OF INFORMATION. 
          WE HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT MAY QUALIFY. BUT HERE TODAY I COULDN'T TELL YOU IF IT'S COMPLETELY QUALIFIES. AND IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO THE APPLICANT EITHER. BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING THE INFORMATION AND SAID WE NEED MORE INFORMATION. SO THAT'S PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE ASKED THEM FOR THAT. YEAH, I THINK AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN VETTING THROUGH HONESTLY FOR THE LAST YEAR. I WILL ALSO MAKE A COMMENT. THE CONSULTANT, HE DID REFERENCE THIS. SO THERE HAD ALSO BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLY DEMOING ALL THE PROPERTIES AND DOING A JOINT VENTURE OF SOME KIND TO WHERE IT WOULD BRING COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY. AND THEN AT THAT PRESENTATION IS WHERE I GUESS WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEFORE IS WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO PROCEED WITH THAT WITH THE DEMO. 
          SO THEN THAT KIND OF THEY REVERTED BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL PLANS AND JUST KEEPING THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND MAKING THE RENOVATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS. SO THAT WAS ALSO A LOT OF THE GO BETWEEN IN THE MONTHS THAT WE HAD BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CONSULTANT. THANK YOU FOR THAT HISTORICAL. THAT KIND OF HELPS. YOU TRY IT. WE'RE TRYING. YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF HOURS THAT WE HAVE INTO PRESENTING SOME OF THESE APPLICATIONS BEFORE YOU, BECAUSE WHEN WE MEET WITH THE APPLICANT, WE PROVIDE THEM A SERIES OF OPTIONS, AND THAT'S JUST WHAT WE DO. WE GIVE THEM OPTIONS SO THEY HAVE IT. AND WE ALSO LET THEM KNOW THE BOARD'S EXPECTATIONS. SO WHEN THEY DO PRESENT AND THEY HEAR CERTAIN COMMENTS OR CERTAIN IT DOESN'T COME TO THEM AS AS A SURPRISE. BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES TO GET YOU THE STAFF REPORT TO THE DEGREE AND THE QUALITY THAT YOU SEE. I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE AT LEAST TEN HOURS OF STAFF 
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TIME FOR EACH APPLICATION THAT WE RECEIVE, AND SOME APPLICANTS REQUIRE A LOT MORE GUIDANCE AND ASSISTANCE THAN OTHERS. BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT, ON AVERAGE, ABOUT TEN HOURS PER APPLICATION AND THOSE THAT ARE A LOT MORE INVOLVED BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF EVERYTHING, YOU HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE HOURS INTO IT. EXCUSE ME. YES, SIR, I THINK I TO BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY, WE SHOULD TEE UP A COMMITTEE IN THE EVENT THAT THE FINANCIALS ARE GATHERED, LET THE COMMITTEE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND THEN MAKE A CAN. THEY COME BACK AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP OF GOING THROUGH THE FINANCIAL CONSULTANT PROCESS REVIEW. WE DO IT THAT WAY. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BOARD TO AVOID SOME OF THE CONSULTING FEES. NO, NOT NECESSARILY TO AVOID IT, BUT JUST TO TO LET THE THE GROUP KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO WANT TO WORK WITH THEM. WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT. LET'S GET WE'LL GET A BOARD, A SUBCOMMITTEE TOGETHER. ONCE HE BRINGS THAT INFORMATION, THE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL LOOK AT IT AND THEN MAYBE COME BACK AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO US TO GO AHEAD OR GIVE THEM AUTHORITY TO IF THE PRESIDENT'S ON THE BOARD AND HAS THE AUTHORITY TO. DO THE CONSULTANT, THEN HAVE SOME SORT OF DOLLAR LIMIT THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF CURTAIL. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD DO THAT, BUT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE FIRM, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE SUPPORT STAFF AT A FIRM THAT ARE GOING TO BE BILLING AT DIFFERENT RATES AND HOURS, AND SO THAT'S GOING TO ADD UP QUICKLY. IF I, IF I MAY, IF THE IF THE BOARD CONSIDERS THE CREATION AND THE APPOINTMENT OF A SUBCOMMITTEE, I STAFF WOULD NOT CALL UPON THE SUBCOMMITTEE UNTIL I FELT THAT I HAD INFORMATION THAT WAS WORTHY OF A MEETING OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, AND LET ALONE BRINGING IN A CONSULTANT. SO I'D SHARE WITH YOU THAT IF I FEEL THAT THE THE RESUBMITTAL IS NOT UP TO PAR, I WOULD NOT CALL UPON THE SUBCOMMITTEE OR FOR THAT MATTER, ENGAGE A CONSULTANT WHEN I FEEL THAT WE'RE STILL NOT AT A POINT THAT WE CAN HAVE PRODUCTIVE REVIEW AND PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION, IT WOULD JUST NOT BE THE MOST EFFICIENT USE OF EVERYONE'S TIME. OKAY, SO I LEFT OUT APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT SINCE I'VE COME BACK, I'M GIVEN TO UNDERSTAND THAT. MAYBE THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS TO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEN LET'S SEE WHAT THE APPLICANT DOES. IF HE COMES BACK AND GIVES US INFORMATION WORTHY OF MEETING, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE BOARD, OKAY WITH THE BOARD. YES. YOU HAVE THE POWER TO SUBMIT IT TO. SO WHAT DO YOU DO NOW IS ASK WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE. THEN PICK TWO. OKAY. WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE WITH THE WITH THE ADDITION OF. WHO ELSE WANTS TO DO IT? ADDITIONAL. IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GREATNESS. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT FROM ANYONE WORKING WITH MR. BROWER. 
          I WELCOME MR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. SO THERE'S YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE THAT THE RECORD SHOW THE SECOND THING WOULD. WHATEVER THAT OH NEXT I'M SORRY OKAY. WE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF. 
          SO NEXT IS REQUIRE ACTION. WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT. YEAH WE NEED A VOTE OFFICIAL. GIVING YOU A DIRECTION THAT WASN'T AN ACTION. I KNOW. OKAY, 80 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ADOPTION OF THE 
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REVISED BYLAWS THAT. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS A THIS IS A MATTER THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. AND THIS IS ONE THAT I'M HOPING TO CLOSE HERE SOON. I DOUBLE CHECKED. AND IN YOUR PACKET YOU DO HAVE THE RED LINE VERSION OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES. AND ALSO IN YOUR IN YOUR PACKET IS THE WHAT I WOULD CALL THE SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A BOARD MEMBER THAT HAD SHARED A DESIRE TO, ASIDE FROM HAVING THE RED LINE VERSION, TO ALSO HAVE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF ALL THE CHANGES THAT ARE THAT ARE PROPOSED TO THE BYLAWS, WE AS STAFF, MYSELF AND MR. GOUGH, MET WITH THE BYLAW SUBCOMMITTEE THAT CONSISTED OF 
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MR. ZILKHA AND MR. HARVEY. WE WENT THROUGH THE BYLAWS, PAGE BY PAGE ONE ONE AFTERNOON UNTIL WE WERE ALL DONE TO GO THROUGH THROUGH IT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CHANGES. SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS JUST THAT. IT'S THE CULMINATION OF THE DISCUSSIONS OF THAT MEETING AND THE REVIEW OF BEST PRACTICES AND CURRENT OPERATIONS. SO THE LAST TIME THAT THE BYLAWS WERE UPDATED WAS IN 2017. AND WHY ARE WHY ARE THE CHANGES NECESSARY? WHY ARE THEY NEEDED ONE TO REFLECT BEST PRACTICES IN GOVERNANCE, IN GOVERNANCE? EXCUSE ME? TO CLARIFY THE BOARD AND THE CITY ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO STRENGTHEN TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, BUT ALSO TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW AND CITY CHARTER. SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THE REVISIONS STRONGER GOVERNANCE, GOVERNANCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY, THE EXPANDED COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS REPRESENTATION THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR PACKET AS THE BOARD MAKEUP, THE INCREASED TRANSPARENCY AND CITIZEN INPUTS, THE IMPROVED COORDINATION WITH CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF, AND ENHANCED FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP. THE REQUESTED ACTIONS. THIS EVENING, WE REQUEST THE BOARD TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE BYLAWS ADOPTED BY WAY OF MOTION AND DIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO GET THIS FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL AND HAVE THEM APPROVE IT. I'VE PROVIDED A THE SAME VERSION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TO MR. SHELBY. HE HAS SHARED WITH ME THIS EVENING THAT HE HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THEM. AND THEY LOOK THEY LOOK GOOD. BUT IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL PROPOSED CHANGES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE INCORPORATED IN THIS RED LINE VERSION, PLEASE LET US KNOW. IF NOT, WE WILL PROCEED WITH HAVING MR. SHELBY WORK WITH CITY ATTORNEY HAGER TO REVIEW THOSE, FINALIZE THEM, AND THEN BE IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT 30 TO 45 DAYS. AND I'LL ADD TO THAT, I THINK THAT THE RED LINE VERSION REFLECTS THE COMMENTS WE'VE BEEN THE STAFF HAS RECEIVED FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND FROM THE BOARD AS A WHOLE, AND I, I JUST CALL IT ONE THING. I DIDN'T GET TO MY REVIEW. IT SAYS IN SECTION FOUR AND THIS IS MINOR. IT'S JUST THE STATE LAW HAS CHANGED. AND SECTION FOUR IT SAYS ANYBODY CAN GET SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA WITH THREE DAYS, THREE CALENDAR DAYS NOTICE THAT SHOULD BE THREE BUSINESS DAYS. NOTICE THE POSTING. NOTICE THE NEW THE NEW LAW. OTHER THAN THAT. BUT AGAIN THIS IS THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING UPDATING THE BYLAWS BECAUSE THERE'S OFTENTIMES CHANGES IN THE LAWS. AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO PROCEED WITH BEST PRACTICE AS WELL. ONE QUESTION I DID HAVE IS ON SECTION ONE NUMBER AND TERM OF OFFICE. SECTION ONE C FOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I NOTICE THE FIRST SENTENCE IS BASICALLY LEGACY LANGUAGE WHEN THE BOARD WAS ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED. DOES THAT NEED TO REMAIN IN THE BYLAWS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INITIAL TERMS WERE STAGGERED? BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT RELEVANT ANYMORE? IT'S NOT. YEAH, I READ THAT EVERY TIME. I'M LIKE, WHAT? YEAH. NO, THAT THAT CAN BE REMOVED. OKAY. THAT YOU'RE CORRECT. THAT WAS THAT WAS PUT IN THERE FOR IMPLEMENTATION. SO THERE WOULD BE STAGGERED, STAGGERED TERMS THAT WOULD HAVE STAGGERED TERMS. SO WE'RE TAKING OUT THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE FIRST WORD OF THAT PARAGRAPH. THE REST OF PARAGRAPH NEEDS TO BE REWRITTEN IF IT'S TAKEN OUT, BUT IT DOESN'T HURT TO STAY IN. I WAS JUST CURIOUS, DOES IT NEED TO. YEAH. SEE? YEAH. SEE? IS THIS YOU SAID THE SUMMARY? IS THERE A SUMMARY DOCUMENT IN HERE? THE SUMMARY, THE SUMMARY OF THE CHANGES INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT OKAY. SO IT'S IN THE PDF FILE. IT WOULD BE. YEAH I CAN'T SEE THE PAGE NUMBER IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME. PAGE ONE OF TWO. PAGE TWO OF TWO. I HAVE AGENDA I CAN'T SEE THE SUMMARY OF THIS RIGHT HERE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. I PROVIDE A BACKGROUND. I PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THE KEY OF THE KEY CHANGES THAT ARE IN BULLET THERE IN BULLET FORM. WHAT PAGE DOES THAT COME INTO? I THOUGHT IT'S ON PAGE FOUR. WHEN SHE SAID SUMMARY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S I WAS THINKING SOMETHING ELSE. SO IT'S PAGE 40 OF YOUR. OH SORRY. IS IN ONE LAST QUESTION IS I CAN'T REMEMBER SECTION. IT WAS BUT IT TALKS ABOUT THE JOINT MEETING BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL AND THE BOARD. IS THERE A CORRESPONDING LANGUAGE AND SEE I GUESS IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S CHARTER OR 
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WHATEVER IT IS THAT CORRELATES WITH THAT, THAT MARRIES UP WITH THAT? WE WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY. MAYBE WE SAY WE WANT TO BE WITH YOU ON A CERTAIN DATE, BUT THEY DON'T AGREE TO IT. AND WE BROUGHT IT INTO OUR BYLAWS. AND I'M ALWAYS CAUTIOUS ABOUT MODIFYING BYLAWS RATHER THAN CREATING BOARD POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. AND IT SAYS IT SHOULD BE IN JANUARY. IT WAS JUNE, JANUARY OF EACH YEAR IN SIX, AND WE HAD HAD THE CONVERSATION EARLY ON AS WE WERE PUTTING TOGETHER THE BUDGET AND JUST TRYING TO THINK BACKWARDS. IF WE IF WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THE BUDGET ADOPTED IN JUNE, WE WANT TO BE IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL AND HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ABOUT SOME OF THE DCDC ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND TALKING ABOUT USING THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LAY OUT THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BUT ALSO PUT US IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE HAVING A CONFERENCE AND WE HAVE AMPLE TIME TO PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET BASED ON THE OUTCOME OF THAT CONVERSATION AND HAVE IT FINALIZED IN JUNE. THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHAT'S SPECIAL ABOUT THE JANUARY DATE ACTION. MR. SHELBY, QUESTION FOR YOU. ARTICLE TWO, SECTION ONE B. YES. OKAY. OR IT SAYS HERE THAT EACH OF WHOM SHALL BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, OR AN OWNER, OPERATOR OR OFFICE OF A BUSINESS, IS THAT OFFICE OR AN OFFICER OF THE BUSINESS, LIKE A PRESIDENT AND CEO? I SHOULD. I WOULD PREFER IT BE AN OFFICER OF A BUSINESS THAT EVEN IF YOU ARE A SMALL PLUMBING COMPANY, THAT YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT OF THAT SMALL PLUMBING COMPANY OR. 
          IF YOU'RE ON THE. AND SOME OTHER BUSINESS THAT YOU WERE AN OFFICER OF THE BUSINESS, I DON'T KNOW HOW WHAT THE FLAVOR OF THE THE BOARD IS. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT KIND OF CONCERNS ME IS, I THINK THE DIRECTION OF THIS BOARD AND ITS LEGACY HAS ALWAYS BEEN BEEN. 
          RESIDENTS SERVE ON THIS BOARD WITH THEIR TALENTS AND LIKE WE ALL ARE HERE TONIGHT. I'M OPEN TO ALLOWING THIS NON RESIDENT CLAUSE TO GO IN THERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY HAVE A LIMIT OF ONE DIRECTOR FOR THAT POSITION SO THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD IS RESIDENTS OF DUNCANVILLE, WHEREAS WE'RE NOT ELIMINATING SOMEONE WITH SOME SORT OF SPECIALTY EXPERTISE THAT IS NOT A RESIDENT, BUT IT IS THAT ONE PERSON AND THEY HAVE THE COUNCIL HAS THE THE SPACE TO PUT THAT PERSON IN THERE, OR THEY CAN CONTINUE WITH ALL RESIDENTS LIKE THEY DO. 
          SO I JUST KIND OF SHARE THAT TO THE BOARD TO GET OTHER'S OPINIONS. NOT NECESSARILY. 
          EMOTION. I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. FOR. OKAY, SO. YEAH, GOT A COUPLE COUPLE EDITS. YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO. DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED. WE COULD MAKE THE EDITS THAT WE'VE HEARD HERE AND SEND IT OUT ONE MORE TIME TO THE BOARD TO REVIEW, GATHER COMMENTS VIA EMAIL. AND THAT WAY WHEN WE BRING IT BACK NEXT TIME, EVERYONE'S ALREADY REVIEWED IT AND MAKE COMMENTS. 
          AND IT'S THE FINAL. AND THEN WE COULD, WE COULD ACTUALLY PASS IT BY RESOLUTION TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE FORMAL. YEAH, WE CAN ACTUALLY MOVE IT FORWARD. SO. CONSENT ITEM OR YOU CAN HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO THE EDITS THAT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED. TONIGHT. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THAT. YEAH. YOU GOT SOMETHING FORWARD. YEAH. OKAY. CAN YOU SUMMARIZE THE COUPLE EDITS. CAN YOU JUST STATE THEM AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THE MOTION? I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE EDITS I'VE HEARD IS THAT I SUGGESTED OF THREE CALENDARS, THREE CALENDAR DAYS, NOT 3 OR 3 BUSINESS DAYS, NOT CALENDAR DAYS. THE EDIT OF CHANGING THE WORD OFFICE TO OFFICER AND SECTION ARTICLE TWO, SECTION ONE B, AND THEN LIMITING THE NONRESIDENT MEMBER 
          [02:15:01]
TO ONE MEMBER. I THINK THAT'S WHAT ABOUT THE ONE ABOUT. AND THEN THE JANUARY MEETING. 
          JANUARY. IT SAYS JANUARY. HE WAS ASKING, I THINK MAYBE SOFTENING THE LANGUAGE TO NOT SAY JANUARY. NO, I'M FINE WITH IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS. AND WE'RE NOT MANDATING SOMETHING THE CITY COUNCIL WASN'T AGREEABLE TO. CITY COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE THESE CHANGES ANYWAY. AND THEN WASN'T THERE SOMETHING ABOUT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS A FORMAL CHANGE OR JUST KIND OF BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE LEGACY LANGUAGE IN. WAS IT ONE C FOR MEMBERS AND THEN TWO, THEN PEOPLE START THREE AND THEN EDITING ARTICLE TWO, ARTICLE TWO, SECTION ONE C TO REFLECT THAT THE BOARD ALREADY HAS STAGGERED TERMS AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO. SOME OF THAT IS ANTIQUATED LANGUAGE. WE CAN CAN YOU SEND IT OUT WITH JUST ENLIST THE EDITS. AND THAT WAY WE'VE SEEN IT AND THEN JUST APPROVE IT THE NEXT TIME. IS THAT OKAY? WE'RE JUST CHECKING. 
          WE CAN WE CAN YOU CAN JUST THAT WAY. THE LANGUAGE. YES. THAT WAS THE FIRST OPTION I SAID YOU COULD DO. AND THEN THE SECOND OPTION IS SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, SUBJECT TO THE EDITS DISCUSSED TODAY. AND THAT WAY IT'S APPROVED AND MOVES TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT THEIR NEXT MEETING. SO IT'S IT'S UP TO THE BOARD IF YOU WANT TO DELAY IT. ONE MORE MEETING TO GET A FINAL VERSION, THEN YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. I WOULD RECOMMEND IF WE GET THOSE EDITS IN IN ADVANCE, BECAUSE ARTICLE TWO C, THERE'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THAT PARAGRAPH. AND I CAN EDIT THIS TOMORROW MORNING IF YOU WE CAN SEND IT OUT, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE NEXT RECORDING SCHEDULE, PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. OKAY. AS A AS A CONSENT ITEM, I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE. IT MIGHT BE YOUR CALL. YES OKAY. SO NO ACTION IS NEEDED. WE'LL JUST BRING THAT BACK OKAY. NOW NUMBER NINE. SO WE KIND OF HAVE SOME LANGUAGE LIKE THAT ONE AT THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS NO MORE THAN ONE MEMBER AT THE BOTTOM THERE. WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GROUPS IT WILL HAVE SOME LANGUAGE CAN BE THAT. YES. SO KIND OF THAT KIND 
          [9. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
OF SAME LANGUAGE. OKAY. SO THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, EXECUTIVE SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. THE DDC SHALL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO THE FOLLOWING SECTION. SECTION 551 072 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY BEING LOCATED. 100 SOUTH MAIN STREET TWO 727 SOUTH COPPERHILL ROAD THREE 227 EAST 17TH STREET. THE DDC EDC SHALL ALSO CONVENE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO FOLLOWING SECTION. SECTION 551 .4872 DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS TO DELIVER DELIBERATE THE OFFER OF A FINANCIAL OR OTHER INCENTIVE TO A BUSINESS PROSPECT, AND CALLING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 
          [10. RECONVENE INTO OPEN SESSION]
SO WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND GO BACK INTO REGULAR SESSION AT 9:02 P.M. AND THERE WAS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN AS A RESULT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER BEFORE THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I DON'T HAVE ANY. OKAY, WE'RE DONE FOR THIS EVENING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.