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OKAY, SO. WELL, I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. YOU CAN CALL TO ORDER THE. CITY OF DUNCANVILLE
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2025 BOND COMMITTEE MEETING AT 6:30 P.M. ON THURSDAY, MAY 8TH. IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, NOW'S THE TIME WE CAN HEAR THEM OR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED[A. Consider the minutes for the April 17, 2025, Bond Committee meeting]
ANY. FOR SECTION A, WE CAN CONSIDER THE MINUTES FOR THE APRIL 17TH, 2025 BOND COMMITTEE MEETING, WHICH ARE ALSO. THIS AGENDA. AND ANY CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE. MOVE TO APPROVE. OKAY. ANY SECOND TO APPROVE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE APRIL MEETING. I GUESS WE SAY I. OKAY. AND WE WILL. ALLOW MR. HARVEY TO RESUME THE CONTINUE THE MEETING. SINCE HE IS HERE NOW, WE ARE ON SECTION. SECOND SECTION. OKAY. I BELIEVE. SORRY I WAS LATE. I HAD TO I HAD TO RETURN AN EMAIL FROM THE EVENTS PLANNING. OKAY, SO WE ARE ON[B. Parks & Recreation and Library Tour]
ITEM B AND THIS IS PARKS AND RECREATION AND LIBRARY TOUR. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. FINCH.THANK YOU. MR. AND ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GO ON THE TOUR, I'LL LET YOU KNOW. I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM MICHAEL MICHAELS COMING. HE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LATE FOR WORK. SO I SUGGEST THAT BART WAS GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON PARKS. MAYBE WE DO THAT FIRST, AND THEN HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES MICHAEL A CHANCE TO GET HERE BEFORE WE DO THE TOUR.
YEAH. TAKE IT AWAY. BART IS OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT. I WAS IN A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION BACK IN 2017 WHEN WE DID THE 2018 BOND ELECTION. SO IT'S OUR SECOND TIME AROUND FOR A BOND ELECTION HERE IN DUNCANVILLE. AND I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE AND SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HERE IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. SO THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD PLACE TO START.
IS THE 2018 MODEL. ACTUALLY, IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LOOKING BACK AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH WITH THOSE PROJECTS. AND I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT WE'VE EITHER COMPLETED OR IN PROGRESS FOR 100% OF THE FUNDING THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO US THROUGH THAT POPULATION. SO WE COMPLETED ROTARY PARK PARKING LOT, THE LAKESIDE PARK PAVILION, AND THE TWO PROJECTS AT ARMSTRONG PARK WITH KIDSVILLE AND THE SPLASH PARK CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS. PHASES ONE AND THREE AT HARRINGTON PARK. THAT IS THE CONCESSION AND RESTROOM BUILDINGS, BOTH FOR BASEBALL AND SOCCER, AS WELL AS A BRIDGE AND TRAIL THAT'S GOING TO LINK THE TWO PARKS, HARRINGTON AND WATERVIEW. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT PROJECT. WE ACTUALLY START DRILLING PIERS FOR THE BUILDINGS ON MONDAY, SO WE'RE ON TRACK TO BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO THE INCREASING COST OF CONSTRUCTION DURING COVID AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WE WERE UNABLE TO FUND WITH THOSE BOND DOLLARS HARRINGTON PARK PHASE TWO AND THAT IS THE PARKING LOT.
AND SO THAT IS STILL ON THE BOOKS TO BE ADDRESSED SOME WAY OR ANOTHER, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH BOND OR SOME OTHER FUNDS TO BE DETERMINED LATER. BUT THAT'S STILL ON THE BOOKS TO BE TO BE STARTED. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT 2018 BOND PROJECTS? SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR PARK CIP. WE HAVE OVER $40 MILLION ON PARK CIP FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS, AND THAT INCLUDES TWO FACILITY PROJECTS THERE. AT THE BOTTOM, YOU SEE THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE FACILITY NEEDS ANALYSIS. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE RECEIVED THAT FACILITY NEEDS ANALYSIS. I'VE SEEN IT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN HERE IN A LITTLE BIT AS WELL. SO I DO HAVE FOUR SLIDES FOLLOWING THIS ONE TO TALK ABOUT EVERY SINGLE PROJECT. NO I DON'T I'M GOING TO SKIP OVER MOST OF THIS AND WE'LL GET RIGHT TO THE FACILITIES. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF BEEN YOUR PRIMARY FOCUS FOR THIS PROJECT. SO FACILITY NEEDS ANALYSIS AGAIN FOR THE RECREATION CENTER AS WELL AS THE SENIOR CENTER, STARTING WITH THE RECREATION CENTER, $4.9 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS WERE IDENTIFIED THAT INCLUDED EXPANDING THE FITNESS AREA, ADDING A MULTI-USE SPACE, ADDING SPECTATOR SPACE WITHIN THE GYM, AND OF COURSE, EVERYTHING ALWAYS NEEDS STORAGE. WE ALSO WANT TO IMPROVE CUSTOMER SUPPORT AND INTERACTION BY MOVING THE FRONT DESK CLOSER TO THE ENTRANCE. AND THEN PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ITEM THAT I HEAR ALL THE TIME IS WE DON'T HAVE LOCKER ROOMS OR SHOWERS. AND SO THAT'S
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ALSO IDENTIFIED IN IN THIS PROJECT. SO AGAIN THIS GRAPHIC IS SHOWN IN FACILITY NEEDS ANALYSIS. A LOT OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE TO THE EAST OF THE CURRENT BUILDING. DURING THE BLUE THE LARGER RESTROOMS, THE MULTI-PURPOSE SPACE STORAGE. AND YOU SEE THERE THE GREEN THE ARROW AT THE BOTTOM OF EXPANDING THAT FITNESS CENTER OVER INTO THE TEEN AREA CURRENTLY. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE SUBMITTED A SCENARIO FOR THIS BUDGET PROCESS TO DO THAT WITH SOME OTHER DOLLARS. SO THAT SHOULD THAT HAPPEN, MR. STEVENSON. SO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS ON VACANT LAND TODAY, BUT STILL PART OF THE REC CENTER. SO IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. IT KIND OF GOES IT GOES INTO THE PARKING LOT, THE PARKING LOT HERE ON THE EAST EAST OF THE BUILDING KIND OF GOES OFF INTO THAT PARKING LOT. OKAY. SO THAT ORANGE IS THE I'M SORRY, THE BLUE. I WAS LOOKING AT THE DRAWING. YEAH. IT'S KIND OF RED UP HERE, BUT IT'S BECAUSE I'M LOOKING UP. YEAH. UP THERE IT'S GOING TO BE ARROW POINTING UP THERE. AND THIS SPACE UP HERE IS AN OUTDOOR SPACE. SAND VOLLEYBALL OUTDOOR FITNESS OKAY. SO YEAH. SO THIS IS THE THIS IS THE CURRENT FITNESS ROOM.THERE'S THE TEEN ROOM NEXT TO IT. SO ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. SO THE SHOWERS AND LOCKER ROOMS ARE GOING TO BE IN THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. WELL THIS IS KIND OF A YES. THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE. THERE'S JUST NO SPACE CURRENTLY BIG ENOUGH. YEAH I HAVE A QUESTION. I DON'T I'M NOT A MEMBER OF ANY GYM. AND SO I DON'T KNOW THESE THINGS BUT SO DO MOST GYMS HAVE SHOWERS AND LOCKER ROOMS OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WORK OUT EARLY IN THE MORNINGS LUNCHTIME AND IN THE EVENINGS. SO THERE'S A PLACE FOR THEM TO CHANGE CLOTHES OR IF THEY COME IN THE MORNINGS OR AT LUNCH, THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO SHOWER AFTERWARDS, TO GO TO WORK OR WHEREVER THEY'RE GOING FOR THE REST OF THE DAY. OKAY. GREAT QUESTION. HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS ARE TAKEN UP BY THE NEW CONSTRUCTION? I WOULD SAY IT LOOKS LIKE ROUGHLY 20 MAYBE. AND HOW MANY HOW MANY EXTRA PEOPLE COMING TO THE FACILITY WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE WITH THIS NEW ADDITION OR THIS RENOVATION? WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT KIND OF STUDY YET. I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER.
I CAN MAKE SOMETHING UP, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE PARKING WOULD BE ADEQUATE. WE DO HAVE MORE PARKING FOR NOW. WE DO HAVE PARKING ACROSS THE STREET OR ANYTIME, ANYTIME WE HAVE OVERFLOW CAN QUICKLY GO OVER TO THE SENIOR CENTER PARKING, WHICH IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE FOR SOME MEETINGS. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO AT THE LAUNCH OF YOUR PRESENTATION, I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. THE COUPLING OF THE RECREATION CENTER SLASH LIBRARY. I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE LIBRARY PART YET, RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY, I'M NOT SURE. WELL, IN THIS PRESENTATION I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE LIBRARY. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A TOUR, AND HANNAH IS HERE WITH US TONIGHT, AND SHE CAN TALK ON THE TOUR. SHE CAN TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING THE LIBRARY. IT'S NOT PART OF THIS PRESENTATION HERE. IT'S OKAY.
ALTHOUGH YOU CAN SEE SOMEBODY DOING SOME MEETING ROOMS I THINK STUDIES. RIGHT. STUDY ROOMS. YEAH. AND THEN I THINK STAFF SPACE. YEAH. SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT ADDING AGAIN GOING TO THE WEST OF THE BUILDING TO ADD SPACE FOR THE LIBRARY. OKAY. AGAIN THAT CAME OUT OF THE FACILITY NEEDS ANALYSIS. THOSE ARE JUST BUBBLE DRAWINGS. SO IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE EXACTLY THOSE LOCATIONS. SO OKAY. NOW MOVING TO THE SENIOR CENTER, THEY IDENTIFIED 1.9 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT LOW TO ME. I THINK FURTHER IN OUR DOCUMENTS, I KNOW MR. FINCH HAS PUT OUT A CIP PROJECT PAMPHLET HERE. I GET ABOUT 5 MILLION IN THAT. SO I THINK THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT LIGHT ON THIS. 5 MILLION IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INDOOR RECREATION AND PROGRAMING SPACE. THEY WANT A DEDICATED FITNESS SPACE. SENIOR CENTERS ARE CHANGING. IT'S NOT YOUR GRANDMOTHER'S SENIOR CENTERS ANYMORE. THEY WANT ACTIVE RECREATION, FITNESS MOVEMENT, PICKLEBALL, PICKLEBALL, PICKLEBALL. YOU WILL SEE PICKLEBALL ON HERE. THEY WANT TO BE MOVING. AND SO WE ARE LOOKING TO TRANSITION OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, OUR SENIOR CENTER TO BE MORE OF AN ACTIVE CENTER. AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME RENOVATIONS AS WELL AS THE CHANGES IN THE WAY WE PROGRAM AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A WORK IN PROGRESS FOR A WHILE. ALSO LOOKING AT ENCLOSING THE EXISTING PATIO SO IT'S MORE USEFUL. MAKE IT AIR CONDITIONED SO YOU CAN GO OUT THERE DURING BEAUTIFUL DAYS AND SIT AND ENJOY THE BEAUTY OF THE PARK. AND THEN OF COURSE, THERE'S A STORAGE AGAIN. ALWAYS NEED MORE STORAGE.
WHEN WAS THE FACILITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT COMPLETED? ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO. SIX MONTHS? YEAH. I THINK WE PRESENT IT IN THE FALL OF 24. SO IT'S RECENT? YEAH, I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE I LOOKED ON Y'ALL'S WEBSITE, ON THE WEBSITE OF THIS GROUP AND IT'S LISTED ON THERE. IT'S ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS. ARE YOU ADDRESSING THE NEED FOR IMPROVED AND RELIABLE AUDIO VISUAL
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EQUIPMENT? WE DO NOT SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS. I THOUGHT WE WERE LOOKING INTO THAT CURRENTLY TO TRY TO GET THE COST ESTIMATE ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. COST TO YOU. YEAH, YOU CAN HEAR THE HUM, CAN YOU? WELL, IT'S JUST NOT ALWAYS IT'S NOT REALLY RELIABLE. SO AGAIN HERE'S THE BUBBLE DRAWING. SIMILAR TO WHAT THE REC CENTER AND LIBRARY WITH THE FITNESS KIND OF MOVING IN OVER HERE, A SMALL THEATER SLASH LECTURE HALL ROOM HERE, INDOOR PICKLEBALL. WE CAN'T HAVE PICKLEBALL COURTS. EVEN SINCE ALL THIS WAS DONE CONTINUOUSLY, CONTINUOUSLY GETTING REQUESTS FOR OUTDOOR COURTS. SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. SO AGAIN, THAT'S MAYBE EAST IN THE PARKING LOT HERE. JUST ORIENT YOU. THIS IS WHERE KIDS BUILD THE SPLASH PADS. WE RECENTLY COMPLETED TWO DIFFERENT MASTER PLANS, ONE BEING THE MASTER PLAN AND THE OTHER BEING THE DOG PARK. I'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT BOTH OF THESE. THIS IS THE FINAL MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL FOR THE MASTER PLAN. JUST REAL QUICKLY, KIND OF RETURNING THIS SOUTHERN AREA TO THE SAVANNA PRAIRIE THAT IT USED TO BE, AS WELL AS TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER, MOVING THE PARKING WHERE IT IS NOW, OVER HERE TO SANTA FE, ADDING AN EDUCATIONAL, OUTDOOR EDUCATIONAL OPEN BUILDING. AN OUTDOOR NATURE PLAYSCAPE OF SOME SORT FOR THE KIDS, KEEPING HER BEAVER POND WITH A NICE LITTLE BOARDWALK. SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT THEY ENVISIONED FOR THE LAB MASTER. THE OPINION OF PROBABLE CAUSE FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. CLOSE TO $9 MILLION. THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED A PHASE ONE, AND I RECENTLY SPOKE TO THEM ABOUT PUTTING A PRICE TAG TO THAT.IT'S KIND OF HARD TO DO THAT KNOWING NOT KNOWING EXACTLY HOW MUCH CONCRETE, HOW MUCH TRAIL YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IN FOR THAT FIRST PHASE, SOMEWHERE IN THE 3 TO $5 MILLION RANGE, WHAT THEY CALL IT HAVING THAT LOOP TRAIL SYSTEM THAT'S PUT IN THE SPINE, CONCRETE TRAILS, REMOVING THE INVASIVE, INITIATING THE PRAIRIE RESTORATION. AND I'LL SHARE WITH YOU. I MET WITH BLACKLAND LAND COLLABORATIVE LAST WEEK ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER A PLAN, RESTORATION PLAN TOGETHER WITH THE COMMUNITY, SO WE CAN ALL COME TO AN AGREEMENT AS TO WHAT THAT RESTORATION LOOKS LIKE. THE METHODS WE'RE GOING TO USE IS, I'LL TELL YOU, THERE'S 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT METHODS AND EVERYONE HAS THEIR NAME. SO WE NEED TO GET THE COMMUNITY ALL KIND OF ON BOARD. WHAT OUR APPROACH IS GOING TO BE TO RESTORE THE PRAIRIE, STABILIZING TEN MILE CREEK. WE HAVE SOME EROSION ISSUES WITH ABANDONED, SO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT AND THEN SOME PARKING AND INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE FOR THE FIRST PHASE. LET'S JUST TALK THROUGH THIS. WHY YOU GOT THIS UP HERE FOR A QUICK SECOND? BECAUSE LET'S BE HONEST, IT'S NOT REALISTIC TO THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT ALL THIS IN THE POND. SO BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR THIS. RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT A DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW. DALLAS COUNTY JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED THE INLAND PORT STUDY. WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH DALLAS COUNTY ABOUT SOME DRAINAGE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT MAYBE THAT WILL HELP WITH THAT. SOME WE'VE THERE'S ANOTHER GRANT THAT WE'VE JUST APPLIED FOR TRAILS. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN POTENTIALLY INCLUDE SOME OF THE TRAILS HERE OR NOT, BUT I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UPDATING OUR TRAILS MASTER PLAN SO THAT WE COULD REALLY GO AFTER SOME GRANT FUNDING, ESPECIALLY FOR TRAILS. WE DO HAVE A, I WOULD SAY, A LOOSE COMMITMENT FROM AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS COMMITTED TO MAYBE A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR MATCH TYPE THING WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT IN WRITING YET. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT CITY COUNCIL MEETING THIS PAST TUESDAY NIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE TXDOT AT LEAST HAS GIVEN US A GREEN LIGHT SO FAR TO CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ON SOME SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ALL ALONG, DANIEL DALE, THAT MAYBE WE COULD FEED INTO SOME OF THIS TRAIL STUFF.
SO SOME OF THESE THINGS JUST KEEP IN MIND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LAYER ON, BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO PUT ALL THIS IN THIS ONE INDIVIDUAL BOND. AND ALSO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. WELL, IT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I KNOW THE COUNCIL IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT IN TERMS OF LIKE EVEN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THEY HAD SAID, ALL RIGHT, THAT'S GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE TO BE ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF REVENUE, PRIVATE FUNDING, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. I ASSUME YOU'RE IN CONTACT WITH THE DUNCANVILLE NATURE CONSERVANCY, WHO HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED OTHER SOURCES FROM ORGANIZATIONS WORKING WITH THEM, AS WELL AS I HAVE ANOTHER MEETING WITH HALF COMING UP HERE SOON. THEY'VE IDENTIFIED SOME FUNDING ALTERNATIVES THAT WORK WITH US ON. YEAH. SO I SHOULD MENTION I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS
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IN A FUTURE, BUT I JUST KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MR. FINCH SAID HERE, IS THAT ALL THESE THINGS I'M PRESENTING TO YOU TONIGHT DON'T HAVE TO BE NECESSARILY FUNDED THROUGH THE BOND. THEY'RE JUST PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. THERE ARE OTHER ALTERNATIVE SOURCES, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE THE MASTER PLAN. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DOG PARK NEXT ALL SAME SAME THING. YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO SPONSORSHIPS AND GRANTS AND ALL KINDS OF ALTERNATIVE FUNDING TO GET THAT GOING, ESPECIALLY A BOND LINE. I'M JUST TRYING TO SHOW YOU ALL THE NEEDS THAT ARE IN THE PARKS, NOT NECESSARILY THE FUNDING SOURCES. SO IT'S NOT ALL IT'S NOT. IT'S ALL FOR YOU GUYS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE ON YOUR ON YOUR SHOULDERS. SO QUESTION GO BACK ONE SLIDE.YEAH. SO IF I SEE IT CORRECTLY, THE MASTER PLAN THAT WAS DONE BY HAMMOND ASSOCIATES DID INCLUDE THE SEVEN ACRES OWNED BY THE LADD FAMILY. AND IF I RECALL, THE AGREEMENT WAS ONCE THE MASTER PLAN WAS APPROVED, THAT HE WAS GOING TO DONATE THAT LAND FOR THE FAMILY WAS GOING TO DONATE THAT LAND. HAS THAT BEEN COMPLETED? IT'S NOT BEEN COMPLETED. I KNOW MR. FINCH IS WORKING ON THAT. SO HE'S STILL COMMITTED. HE'S NOT. HE'S STILL OKAY WITH THAT. WE'RE ACTIVELY DISCUSSING ALL OF THAT AS WELL AS AS WELL AS OTHER. YES. THANK YOU. YES. SO AGAIN, THAT WAS ALSO RECENTLY APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR. THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS JUST EAST OF ROTARY PARK. THIS IS VENICE HERE CLEVELAND. SO IT HAS FOUR DIFFERENT DOG AREAS PARKING AREA. THERE'S RESTROOMS AND SOME BIG STATIONS. THERE'S WATER STATIONS AND WASTE STATIONS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS. VERY DETAILED. CAME UP DURING OPINION OF PROBABLE CAUSE AT 2.9 MILLION TO DO THE ENTIRE THING AT ONE TIME. OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING SOMETHING WE WERE READY TO BITE OFF. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE PHASE ONE AT LEAST GET SOMETHING GOING. AND THAT WOULD BE THE TWO FENCE PLAY AREAS, ONE FOR BIG DOGS AND ONE FOR LITTLE DOGS. A SIDEWALK CONNECTING THAT AREA TO THE NEW PARKING LOT OVER AT ROTARY PARK. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE WATER STATIONS AND SUBWAY STATIONS, POSTERIORS AND SOME BENCHES FOR THE FOR THE PEOPLE. SO THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. $300,000 IS WHAT THEY PROVIDED A COST ESTIMATE FOR THAT INITIAL PHASE ONE. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS SINCE THIS WAS COMPLETED ABOUT THE FIRE STATION POSSIBLY GOING THERE AND SOME OTHER THINGS. SO YEAH. WOULD YOU MIND JUST GOING BACK TO THAT MAP, JUST BECAUSE THOSE OF YOU THAT DID THE BUS TOUR WITH US, THE FIRE STATIONS AND EVERYTHING, WE WENT OUT AND SAT IN FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, IF YOU REMEMBER. SO THERE'S LIKE AN APRON THAT WE KIND OF PULLED IN FRONT OF THIS IS RIGHT BEHIND ALDI'S RIGHT. THERE IS ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY HERE THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE CITY. WE'RE WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT MAYBE THAT CAN BECOME CITY PROPERTY. AND WE'RE REALLY HOPING FOR A DONATION. BUT THOSE ARE STILL IN DISCUSSIONS. THE IDEA HERE AND THOSE OF YOU THAT EITHER HEARD OR WATCHED THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY NIGHT, YOU SAW THE MATRIX REPORT, ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR THE THIRD FIRE STATION. WE PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT THAT, AND THEY SHOWED THAT IS IN THE AREA OF WHEATLAND AND CEDAR RIDGE. SO CEDAR RIDGE. CEDAR RIDGE, RIGHT. BUT THEY DIDN'T IDENTIFY A SPECIFIC PROPERTY, THIS PROPERTY WITH IT ALREADY BEING OWNED PREDOMINANTLY BY THE CITY, WE KIND OF KEEP TALKING ABOUT, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN CREATE KIND OF A WIN WIN SITUATION? CAN WE HELP ADVANCE THAT FIRST PHASE OF THE DOG PARK WITH A MINOR MODIFICATION, HOPEFULLY STILL DOING? YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY WE WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THE MASTER PLAN, BUT COULD WE BUILD A SMALL AND I MEAN SMALL SUBSTATION? BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT, THE NEED IS REALLY AMBULANCE MAYBE THE PLACE FOR AN ENGINE, BUT AMBULANCE, MAYBE A BRUSH TRUCK, NOTHING AT ALL LIKE WHAT WE SAW ON CAMP WISDOM ROAD AS WE TALKED ABOUT. THIS IS A VERY SMALL SUBSTATION THAT IS BASICALLY A PLACE FOR THE AMBULANCE TO DISPATCH FROM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY NEED TO BE THE MINIMUM STANDARDS IN TERMS OF TIME. SO IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THOUGHT BEING, IF WE COULD WORK TOGETHER AND COLLABORATE AND KIND OF COME UP WITH A SITUATION WHERE WE COULD PUT THAT SMALL SUBSTATION RIGHT UP HERE IN THE FRONT, AND IT WASN'T NECESSARILY IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN. BUT IF WE HAVE A PARKING LOT MAYBE BACK THROUGH HERE AND I TALKED ABOUT OR WHATEVER THE CASE, SO THAT THE AMBULANCES CAN PULL INTO THE FIRE STATION, AND WE COULD ALSO BUILD AND RUN THE WATER LINES TO PUT IN RESTROOMS KIND OF IN THIS AREA, WHETHER OR NOT PARKING LOT, YOU KNOW, WE STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HONOR THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THE DOG PARK MASTER PLAN AND THAT WE DO THAT. BUT IF WE COULD CREATE A WIN WIN SITUATION WHERE WE COULD AFFORDABLY PUT IN THAT THIRD FIRE STATION AND ALSO KIND OF HELP JUMP START THE DOG PARK, WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND TALK TO THE PARKS AND REC COMMITTEE. BUT LOOKING FOR THAT WIN WIN OPPORTUNITY THERE. SO I WANT TO VOICE TWO CONCERNS THAT THAT I WOULD HAVE WITH THE AMBULANCE
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STATION THERE. AND MAYBE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN CONSIDERED. I BELIEVE THIS IS JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM BURKE MIDDLE SCHOOL. IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. THAT'S RIGHT. YES. SO I WAS A CROSSING GUARD AT THAT CORNER. AND WHEN THE SUN HITS RIGHT, THE CARS CANNOT SEE AT ALL. THERE WERE MANY A STUDENT THERE. MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS, THEY DO NOT PAY ATTENTION. SO THE IDEA OF THE SUN HITTING WHERE IT HITS AND THE AMBULANCE AND EMERGENCY, IT'S CONCERNING FOR ME, FOR SURE. ISN'T THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THOUGH? SO THIS WOULD LITERALLY LIKE ALL THESE IS LITERALLY RIGHT HERE. RIGHT. SO IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS WOULD LEAVE EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO, AND GO TO ALDI'S FOR SNACKS AND GO TO CVS FOR SNACKS, EVEN THOUGH THEIR PARENTS DROPPED THEM OFF AT THE SCHOOL. OR YOU HAD STUDENTS COMING FROM THE APARTMENTS THAT WERE NEAR, NOT THE APARTMENTS SOMEWHERE NEAR. I THINK THAT'S THE GROCERY STORE.YEAH, THEY WOULD WALK DOWN THIS WAY, BUT YEAH, SO THAT WAS A CONCERN. OKAY. YEAH. RIGHT NOW ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE HAVING IS THAT SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF THE CITY. AND MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD THIS ALREADY, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE FOUR MINIMUM MINUTE RESPONSE TIME.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS FROM THE CONSULTING FIRM IS THAT WE PUT A FIRE STATION SOMEWHERE IN THIS AREA ALONG WHEATLAND, RIGHT HERE OR SOUTH, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL AREA, GREENSTONE, RIGHT SOUTH, GREENSTONE, CUTTING DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, OR, YOU KNOW, I GUESS ANOTHER OPTION IS WE COULD LOOK AT PARKING RIGHT OUT ON THE CLARK ON THE DUNCANVILLE SIDE, OBVIOUSLY. BUT THIS THIS IS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. THIS INTERSECTION IS WHAT THEY SAY WOULD BE THE MOST IDEAL AND THE MOST LOGICAL. BUT I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND OBVIOUSLY, WE HAD A SITUATION THERE NOT TOO LONG AGO WHERE A CROSSING GUARD. YEAH. WAS IT HAPPENS. YES. AT THE SCHOOL. YEAH. TOW TRUCK A TOW TRUCK. GREENWAY. AND YEAH THAT WAS WHERE I WAS A CROSSING. YEAH. SO JUST KIND OF WRAP UP.
THIS IS KIND OF A COUPLE PARTS LIST OF PRIORITY NEEDS, IF YOU WILL, FOR PARKS AND RECREATION.
AND THIS FIRST SHORT TERM NEEDS REALLY IS BASED UPON THE THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF OUTSTANDING TO BE DONE WITH THE BOND ELECTION. THE TWO MASTER PLANS THAT WE'VE ADDRESSING. AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE FUND THE ENTIRE PROJECTS, BUT AT LEAST GETTING THEM GOING, SHOWING THE COMMUNITY THAT WE DIDN'T DO THESE PLANS JUST FOR THEM TO SIT ON THE SHELF. WE WANTED TO TAKE ACTION AND DO SOMETHING WITH THEM. HOPEFULLY THOSE PHASE ONES OF SOME. THESE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES IN ORDER. IS THAT AN ORDER? NO. NO. ORDER. HARRINGTON PARK, PHASE TWO. THE PARKING NEEDS ARE STILL THERE. WE ARE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GROWING EXPONENTIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO TOURNAMENTS ON WEEKENDS, RECREATION BALL, BOTH FOR SOCCER AND BASEBALL IS KIND OF WANING.
EVERYONE'S GOING TO THIS TRAVEL BALL NOW. AND SO TERMS ARE CERTAINLY TAKEN A TURN UPWARDS THAT BRINGS MORE PEOPLE TO THE PARK. AND THAT PARKING ISSUES IS NOT GOING AWAY. SO WE'RE GONNA EXPAND THE RECREATION. AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONE THING TO EXPAND THE RECREATION FITNESS AREA, SPECIFICALLY THE FITNESS AREA. AGAIN, WE'VE SUBMITTED A SCENARIO FOR THE BUDGET.
HOPEFULLY THAT MAYBE MAY GET ADDRESSED THROUGH THAT. BUT THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR. THERE WAS FUNDING HAD TO BE DIVERTED TO ANOTHER PROJECT. SO WE JUST PUT A HALT ON IT. BUT WE ALREADY TOLD EVERYBODY, HEY, IT'S COMING. AND SO WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT AND STILL LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. SO WE'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT AND THEN TRAILS I DON'T I DON'T REALLY GO IN THAT REGARD AS MR. FISH. MR. WE'RE WORKING ON SECURING FUNDING FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO DO A MASTER PLAN, PARK MASTER PLAN, AS WELL AS A TRAIL MASTER PLAN. SO A LOT OF THAT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE MAY COME FROM THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING IN OUR CURRENT MASTER PLAN IS TRAILS IS IDENTIFIED AS A COMMUNITY. AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE WHEN WE REDO THE MASTER PLAN NEXT YEAR, IT WILL STILL BE THE NUMBER ONE THING ON THE ON THE LIST FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S CONSISTENT NOT JUST WITH DUNCANVILLE, BUT WITH ENTIRE COUNTRY. EVERYONE WANTS TRAILS CONNECTIVITY FROM THEIR HOMES TO THEIR PARKS TO THEIR SCHOOLS TO THEIR BUSINESS AREAS. TRAILS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S NOT IN ORDER? WHICH ONE DO YOU NOT WANT AT THE I MEAN, IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME TO. MR. HARRINGTON. HARRINGTON. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE BIGGEST PARKS. NEXT ARE THE TRAILS. I GET THE LEAD, BUT PUTTING THEM ON THE SPOT, YEAH, I JUST. FIND THE FITNESS CENTER AGAIN. THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S PRETTY SMALL. THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. THAT'S NOT A BIG, HUGE NUMBER. WELL AND CITY DOLLARS IT IS IN MY PERSONAL WORLD AND I JUST. $80, $80, $80. YEAH. SO AND THEN AGAIN, THE OTHERS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WILL BE MORE
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DICTATED AS TO, YOU KNOW, HOW THE COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE PROJECTS. AS MR. STATED, USING ALTERNATIVE FUNDING FOR THOSE PROJECTS. CORRECT ME IF I'M IF I'M MISUNDERSTOOD. SO YOU'RE SAYING PARK PHASE TWO IS PRIMARILY NEEDED BECAUSE OF TOURNAMENTS? NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS USING THE FACILITIES THAT ARE BEING THAT DOES INCLUDE ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS, FOR SURE. A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE MOVING TO THOSE TRAVEL BALL TEAMS AS WELL. IT'S NOT JUST TEAMS COMING HERE. OUR KIDS ARE NOW PLAYING ON THESE TRAVEL TEAMS. AND SO AND THAT RECREATIONAL BALL TOO. SO THEY THEY TAKE UP A BIG CHUNK OF THE WEEKDAY USE LIKE PRETTY MUCH 80% OF OUR WEEKDAYS. BUT THE WEEKENDS HAVE KIND OF MOVED A LITTLE MORE TOWARDS THE TOURNAMENT USAGE. PART. DUDE I'M SORRY. JUST BACK ON THAT SLIDE REAL QUICK. THOSE ARE THE SHORT TERM NEEDS. DO YOU REMEMBER BALLPARK PRICES? THE PHASE TWO WAS 3.3 MILLION. AND ON THE HARRINGTON ARE THOSE ALL OF THOSE ANY RENTALS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH OTHER ENTITIES AS FAR AS DO YOU ALL RENT OUT? WE HAVE A FEW RENTALS. WE HAVE A FEW OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS. ORGANIZATIONS COME IN AND DO THE RUN THE TOURNAMENTS. FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S ACTUALLY OUR YOUTH ASSOCIATION IS RUNNING OKAY. YEAH. THEY'VE JUST EXPANDED THEIR PROGRAM TO INCLUDE CALLED SELECT BALL OR TRAVEL BALL FOR THEIR TEAMS. AND THEN THEY BRING IN THESE OTHER TEAMS TO PLAY HERE. WHAT'S THE VALUE TO THE CITY OF HAVING THESE TOURNAMENTS VERSUS HAVING THEM IN CEDAR HILL OR DESOTO. OH FOR SURE. YOU KNOW, SPORTS TOURISM IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST GROWING INDUSTRIES IN THE COUNTRY. I CAN GIVE YOU THE ENTIRE OUR SPEECH ON, YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANCE OF SPORTS TOURISM. YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE FIELDHOUSE IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. WE'RE ALREADY GOT OUR FOOT IN THE WATER ON SPORTS TOURISM. BUT THESE YOUTH SPORTS TOURISM DOLLARS, IT'S LIKE A $7 BILLION BUSINESS NOW NATIONWIDE. THE COMMUNITIES ARE USING IT AS A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL TO BRING FOLKS TO THE COMMUNITY TO SHOP THEIR SHOPS AND GET THEIR RESTAURANTS STAY THERE. HOTELS SPEND MONEY HERE. IS THERE A WAY OR A MODEL I'M THINKING OF? CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU CALL IT, BUT IT'S LIKE SOCCER FIELDS THAT ARE ALSO PLACES WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF WATER THERE. THERE'S A RETENTION POND. IS THERE A DUAL USE FOR PARKING? OR ONCE WE BUILD THE PARKING PHASE, IT WOULD ONLY BE PARKING IN CAN GET ANOTHER USE OUT OF IT. WHEN IT'S NOT A BUSY, YOU KNOW, TOURNAMENT. IT WOULD ONLY BE PARKING FOR THE MOST PART. OKAY. SURE. THAT COULD BE USED FOR LIKE A SMALL FESTIVAL OUT THERE.SURE. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TIME WHERE WE HAD A BIG SOCCER TOURNAMENT HERE EVERY YEAR, AND THEY BRING IN LOTS OF VENDORS AND SET UP A VENDOR AREA. RESPONSIBILITIES. SOME OF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE. SO FOR INSTANCE, BART MENTIONED THE FIELDHOUSE. AND THE FIELDHOUSE IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ON YOUR NEXT MEETING. BUT FOR INSTANCE, OUR FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FIELDHOUSE THAT ACTUALLY DOES NOT GET PAID FOR THROUGH GENERAL TAXPAYER FUNDS OR THE GENERAL BUDGET HERE LATELY, USING FUNDS FOR THAT, THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY FUNDS. AND WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT TO REALLY INVEST IN THAT FACILITY TO BRING SPORTS TOURISM AS PART WAS TALKING ABOUT TO THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A BILL CURRENTLY IN THE LEGISLATURE THAT, IF IT GETS SIGNED INTO LAW, WOULD ALLOW US TO USE HOT FUNDS TO PROMOTE SPORTING EVENTS, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE AT ANY CITY FACILITY. SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE NOT ONLY THE FIELDHOUSE THEN, BUT THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE LIKE EXACTLY WHAT BART IS TALKING ABOUT. TOURNAMENTS AT THE PARKS, BALL, BALL FIELD IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED POTENTIALLY EVEN THESE PARKING LOTS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. BUT THAT WOULD BE VERY MUCH DEPENDENT ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT BILL GETS SIGNED INTO LAW.
DO WE HAVE ANY FIGURES OR ANY SORT OF PROJECTIONS ABOUT WHAT ACTUAL I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND IT'S A $7 BILLION INDUSTRY, BUT WHAT PART OF THAT DO WE HAVE ANY ESTIMATES OF WHAT WOULD TRICKLE INTO DUNCANVILLE VERSUS I MEAN, BECAUSE HARRINGTON'S OVER THERE RIGHT OFF, RIGHT OVER THERE BY DESOTO. AND SO I CAN SEE BOTH WAYS. DO WE HAVE ANY I MEAN, 3.3 MILLION. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TO DO EVALUATION ABOUT WHAT'S COMING BACK TO THE CITY. RIGHT? WELL, I DON'T WANT TO CHARACTERIZE AS NEEDING THE PARKING JUST FOR TOURNAMENTS. IT'S NEEDED FOR EVERYDAY USE OUT THERE DURING ALL SEASON. EVERY NIGHT YOU GO OUT THERE, THERE'S THE PARKING LOT IS FULL. SO IT'S NOT JUST FOR TOURNAMENT USAGE, BUT IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR TOURNAMENTS FOR SURE. WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY KIND OF ECONOMIC ANALYSIS AS TO WHAT THE DOLLARS ARE COMING IN, AND WE WILL HAVE MORE TOURNAMENTS. I KNOW THAT THE FIELDHOUSE HAS DONE SOME OF THAT RECENTLY WITH THEIR STUDY WITH THE HUNTING PARTNERS. SO WE COULD WE COULD CERTAINLY GO DOWN THAT ROAD AT SOME POINT. JUST GOT DONE. HE WAS ASKING ME IF THE HUNTING PARTNERS PRESENTATION. SO NO, WE JUST DID
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THAT ON TUESDAY NIGHT. THAT JUST GOT CONCLUDED. I'LL SEND YOU GUYS A LINK FOR THAT, BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY DOES QUANTIFY SOME OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR SPORTS TOURISM TO THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. BUT IT'S SPECIFIC TO THE FIELDHOUSE. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY. BUT YOU YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S PRETTY LARGE. SO THANK YOU. THERE'S SOME VERY GENERAL STUFF OUT THERE. I MEAN, I'VE HEARD BEFORE THAT EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ON AN ATHLETIC FACILITY BRINGS YOU IN $5 SOMEWHERE ELSE. THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHERE THAT'S APPLY HERE TO DUNCANVILLE AND, I DON'T KNOW, VERY GENERAL SUCH. SO THEN LOOKING AT MEDIUM TERM NEEDS, THE ALLIANCE PARK IS ONE OF OUR PREMIER. IT'S OUR HIGH SCHOOL ONLY HIGH SCHOOL SIZE BASEBALL FIELD. AND IT GETS USED A LOT BY BOTH OUR LOCAL ASSOCIATION AS WELL, AS WE HAVE SEVERAL PRIVATE SCHOOLS THAT USE IT AS THEIR HOME FIELD. IT'S IN BAD SHAPE. THE RESTROOMS ARE HORRENDOUS, NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. SO I'D SAY THAT'S A MIDTERM NEED. WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING ALL THE SIGNAGE IN THE PARKS AGAIN.WE'RE LOOKING AT AGAIN. I'M GOING BACK TO MY STATEMENT EARLIER. MR. FINCH ALSO SAID THIS ISN'T ALL BEEN FUNDED BY BY BONDS. THESE ARE JUST NEEDS. SO THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER FUNDING SOURCES FOR SOME OF THIS STUFF. I'M JUST STUDYING WHAT MY NEEDS ARE, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR ORIGINAL WOODEN SIGNS ARE NOW DILAPIDATED IN A LOT OF CASES, AND FALLING DOWN EMBARRASSINGLY, I TOOK ONE OUT RECENTLY HERE AT LIONS PARK, BUT REPLACING THOSE WITH NEW STANDARD CAST STONE THAT YOU SEE AT REDBIRD PARK URBAN PARK, SOME OF THOSE OTHER TRAILS, PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENTS.
WE HAVE THREE PLAYGROUNDS THAT ARE APPROACHING 25 YEARS OLD. THEY'RE PUT IN IN 2002, SO THE NEXT TWO YEARS WILL BE 25 YEARS OLD. INDUSTRY STANDARD IS 20 TO 25 YEARS FOR A PLAYGROUND.
THAT'S NOT THAT'S BECAUSE THE METAL IS GOING TO ERODE AWAY AND RUST AWAY. BUT THE BIGGER ISSUE IS GETTING REPLACEMENT PARTS. SO AS THESE ROTOMOLDED SLIDES, THESE PLASTIC PIECES START CRACKING AND CAUSING ISSUES, YOU CAN'T GET REPLACEMENT PARTS, NOT ONLY IN THE SITUATION THAT WE HAD WHEN I GOT HERE IN 2013, WHERE I HAD THREE PLAYGROUNDS THAT WERE BOARDED UP, LITERALLY BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GET THE SLIDES OUT. SO I JUST PUT A BIG PIECE OF PLYWOOD UP SO THE KIDS WOULDN'T FALL OFF. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO GET THAT SITUATION. WE'RE NOT THERE YET, THANKFULLY, BUT IT IS ON THE HORIZON. SO IF PLAYGROUNDS ARE TO BE REPLACED ONE, THE LAST THREE THINGS ARE PROBABLY AGAIN, THREE THINGS I HEAR THE MOST. JUST BECAUSE I'M IN THE RECREATION CENTER, I'M IN THE SENIOR CENTER. AND THE OTHER THING, THE PLAYGROUNDS AND PLAYGROUNDS. SO THEY WANT SHADE. PEOPLE WANT SHADE. THAT'S KIND OF A BIG THING THAT IN IN THE PARK WORLD RIGHT NOW IS TRYING TO SHADE ALL OF YOUR PLAYGROUNDS. I HEAR THAT A LOT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF OUT THERE AS AS A NEED FOR THESE FOUR COMMUNITIES PERSPECTIVE THAT I HEAR A LOT. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE RECREATION CENTER EXPANSION THIS. EXPANSION. SO AGAIN, I'M NOT IDENTIFYING HOW YOU FUND THESE THINGS. I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I SEE AS A PRIORITY PROJECTS, BOTH FROM THE SHORT TERM AS WELL AS THE MEDIUM 3 TO 5 YEAR TERM COMING UP ON THE HORIZON. MAYBE BRIEFLY JUST TOUCH ON WHAT THE SENIORS OR THE SERVICE CENTER, RECREATION OR EXPANSION ALSO MEANS TO YOU, THE SERVICE CENTER. THE SERVICE CENTER, YES. SO CURRENTLY, I KNOW YOU GUYS TOOK A TOUR OF THE SERVICE CENTER. I BELIEVE THAT USED TO BE OUR HOME FOR OUR PARK MAINTENANCE STAFF. THEY THEY OUTGREW IT. SO THEY THEY THEY KICKED US OUT. THEY WEREN'T SAD TO SEE US GO. SO WHEN THE OLD FIRE STATION BECAME AVAILABLE OR EMPTIED. FIRE STATION WAS BUILT ON CAMP WISDOM, WE WERE FORTUNATELY ABLE TO MOVE OUR PARK MAINTENANCE STAFF TO THAT FACILITY TO HOUSE ALL OF OUR PARK MAINTENANCE STAFF. THAT CLEANS EVERYBODY FROM REGULAR PARK MAINTENANCE, HORTICULTURE, ATHLETICS. AS OUR LITTER CREW.
AND SO THEY ALL OFFICE AND HOUSE ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT AT THAT FACILITY. THE HARD PART ABOUT THAT IS THAT WE'RE AWAY FROM A LOT OF THE ADVANTAGES WE HAVE OF BEING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND FLEET MAINTENANCE AT THE SERVICE CENTER. WE SHARE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT. OBVIOUSLY, FLEET MAINTENANCE IS KIND OF OBVIOUS. WE NEED THOSE GUYS TO HELP KEEP OUR STUFF RUNNING. AND THEN IT'S BEING AWAY FROM THAT COHESIVE GROUP OF GUYS AND GIRLS. IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE FOR US.
THEY LIKE OUR GUYS, I'LL BE HONEST. THEY LIKE BEING ON THEIR OWN. NO ONE CAN BLAME THEM FOR SOME THINGS GO WRONG AT THE SERVICE, BUT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF REASONS WHY. REALLY. IT MAKES SENSE FOR ALL OF YOU TOGETHER. AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY PROBABLY HAS OTHER IDEAS FOR THE FOR THE FIRE STATION SOMEDAY, FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, FOR BEYOND JUST BECOMING A PARK MAINTENANCE FACILITY. SO YEAH. DOES THAT HELP ANSWER? SO THAT IS THE INTO
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MY PRESENTATION. AGAIN I'M NOT COMING I'M COMING TO YOU WITH PROBLEMS AND NOT SOLUTIONS.SOMETIMES I FEEL BUT I DO I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT LOOKING FOR YOU TO FIX ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH THE BONDS I'M TRYING TO SHARE WITH YOU MY NEEDS. AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL COLLECTIVELY AS A STAFF AND AS A ADMINISTRATION, AND THE COUNCIL ARE WORKING, TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO FUND THESE THINGS MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. OKAY. IS THERE GOING TO BE A LINK TO THIS PRESENTATION? I CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDING I THINK YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE PUTTING ALL YOUR DOCUMENTS OUT ON YOU. PUT THAT OUT THERE. SO DO YOU WANT TO DO THE TOUR NOW DO WE. YES.
ARE WE ALL HERE. CAN I YOU HAD A GREAT LIKE YOU SAID YOU HAD TWO CONCERNS WITH THE DOG PARK. I'M TAKING IT WAY BACK FOR YOU. YEAH. TWO CONCERNS WITH THE FIRE STATION. POTENTIAL FIRE STATION LOCATION. YOU MENTIONED THE CROSSING GUARD. DID I MISS THE SECOND ONE OR DID WE JUST SKIP PAST IT? I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS. NO ONE. WAS THE. WAS THE SUNLIGHT. BECAUSE THE WAY IT HITS IN TRAFFIC. AND THEN THE OTHER WERE THE STUDENTS BECAUSE IT'S MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS AND HOW THEY BEHAVE. OKAY, I GOT IT. YEAH. OKAY. JUST MAKE A COMMENT. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE AUTHORITY OF MR. HARVEY HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, HE ASKED THE QUESTION. I ASKED THE QUESTION, ARE THESE A PRIORITY? AND THEN THE QUESTION WAS ASKED TO KNOW WHAT'S HIS PRIORITY? AND MR. HARVEY HAS CAUTIONED ME MORE THAN ONCE THAT OUR JOB RIGHT NOW IS NOT TO PUT ANYTHING PRIORITY.
IT'S GOING TO COME. NO, I JUST ASK THE QUESTION. YEAH, BUT IN TWO MEETINGS, WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS IN JUNE, I GUESS IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY WE AS A COMMITTEE ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THIS 20 TO $6 MILLION IS GOING TO GO.
AND IT'S ONLY $3.5 MILLION FOR THAT FIRE STATION, WHATEVER. IT'S GOING TO BE OUR JOB. PUT IT IN YOUR BACK POCKET AND START THINKING ABOUT IT. IT IS OUR JOB. I UNDERSTAND IT, MR. HARVEY, THAT WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT COMES TO US, WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY CHOOSE THE PROJECTS TO FILL UP THAT THAT BUCKET OF AROUND $26 MILLION. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND HOW THAT MAY OR MAY NOT AFFECT TAXATION VERSUS. SO THIS IS THIS IS ON THE HORIZON. AND WE LOOK AT THIS STUFF AND THINK ABOUT IT LIKE, YEAH, LET'S DO THIS FOR 3 MILLION. LET'S DO THIS FOR 10 MILLION. LET'S DO THIS FOR 7 MILLION. THAT'S SOONER OR LATER IT'S GOING TO BE OUR BURDEN OF RESPONSIBILITIES. MR. HARVEY KEEPS SAYING, BE CAREFUL, BUT I JUST CAN'T GET IT OUT OF MY MIND THAT WE, AS WE SEE THESE THINGS, THAT IT'S OUR IT'S OUR JOB. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO WIN.
SOMEBODY'S GOING TO LOSE. IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE, SOME ARE GOING TO BE FUNDED AND SOME ARE NOT. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR JOB. IT'S A TOUGH JOB. I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD SAY WINNERS OR LOSERS PER SE. I MEAN, EVERYBODY FROM A HOUSEHOLD BUDGET UP TO THE BUDGET OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK, BUDGETS INHERENTLY ARE LIMITS. AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR OWN HOUSEHOLD BUDGET, YOU HAVE TO PUT LIMITS ON WHAT YOU DO BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO. SO WE'LL WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO SOME THINGS, AND THE REST OF US WHO ARE ADVOCATING FOR CERTAIN THINGS, WHO, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE TO REALIZE THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE TAX RATE BALL AS WELL. I'D ALSO LIKE TO I MEAN, UNLESS I MISSED SOMETHING LAST WEEK, I THINK PART OF OUR JOB IS TO DECIDE, NUMBER ONE, WHETHER WE'RE EVEN HAVING A BOND. THAT'S TRUE AND HOW MUCH IT WILL BE, AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE WHAT IT COVERS. I THINK WE TEND TO FORGET THAT PART OF IT. MR. HARVEY, IF YOU DON'T MIND. SO JUST WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT. SO JUST OUR SCHEDULE FOR THE NEXT THERE'S FIVE MEETINGS LEFT FOR US. THE NEXT MEETING, MAY 15TH, WE'RE SCHEDULED TO TALK ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JUST A LITTLE BIT. FIELD HOUSE, IT AND GENERAL SERVICES. NOW, I WILL NOT BE HERE FOR THAT MEETING, BUT RICHARD JACKSON AND ANGEL WILL WILL BOTH BE HERE FOR THAT MEETING TO HELP GUIDE YOU. MY DAUGHTER IS GRADUATING FROM COLLEGE, SO I HAVE TO BE AT THAT. SO. SO I WANT TO BE WITH YOU GUYS. I LOVE BEING WITH YOU GUYS, BUT I WOULD NEVER HEAR THE END OF IT IF I MISS THAT. I GOT TO GO TO THAT. BUT THEN ON JUNE 2ND IS REALLY WHEN WE START TO GET INTO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S THE FINANCIAL REVIEW DISCUSSION. WE START TALKING ABOUT DRAFT REPORT. WE START TALKING TO EXACTLY WHAT ERIC WAS JUST SAYING. DO WE OR DON'T WE.
RIGHT. BUT YOU NEED MORE DATA BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN MAKE THAT DECISION. THE TEASER THAT I WILL
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TELL YOU IS I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR FINANCE TEAM VERY CLOSELY. OUR CURRENT TAX RATE IS $0.61. AND WHAT I WILL SAY TO YOU, AND THIS IS JUST A TEASER AND I HAVE TO SHOW YOU ALL THE DETAILS. BUT IF WE COULD HYPOTHETICALLY PRETEND THAT, OKAY, IF WE WERE ON A RAILROAD TRAIN, CHOO CHOO TRACKS INSTEAD OF A ROLLER COASTER WITH THE TAX RATE, AND WE STAYED AT $0.61, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A SOLUTION WHERE WE COULD STAY AT $0.61 AND TAKE OUT THAT $25 MILLION BOND.I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT ON JUNE 2ND. NOW, KEEP IN MIND THAT DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE'S ASSESSED VALUE ISN'T GOING UP. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE HOMEOWNER MAY NOT END UP PAYING MORE TAXES, BUT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT. SO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU ALL THOSE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THEN FAST FORWARDING TO JUNE 19TH, THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY START TALKING ABOUT THE DRAFT REPORT, DISCUSSION AROUND THAT, DISCUSSION AROUND YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, JULY 7TH. WE FINALIZED THAT REPORT ON JULY 15TH. WE PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL. SO. ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE MOVE TO TOURS? EVERYONE HAS HAD THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED TO THIS POINT. I JUST ONE MORE THING. THERE'S BEEN A QUESTION ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THIS MEETING. AND SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE ADDRESS THAT. YES.
SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY ANY SET FOR ANY OF OUR MEETINGS. RIGHT. IN TERMS OF TIME LIMIT COUNCIL IN THEIR RULES OF PROCEDURE, THEY CAN'T GO PAST MIDNIGHT. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT TO BE HERE UNTIL MIDNIGHT. RIGHT. SO I'VE ALREADY I'VE LITERALLY ALREADY DONE THAT THIS WEEK. WE ADJOURNED AT 1153. SO BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO DO IS GET YOU OUT OF HERE BY, YOU KNOW, WITHIN AN HOUR AND A HALF OR SO. 730, 8:00 TRY TO STICK AROUND THAT. SOMETIMES I THINK WITH THE TOURS, ESPECIALLY THE FIRE STATION, IT WENT A LITTLE BIT LONGER LAST TIME BECAUSE WE DID TWO FIRE STATIONS PLUS THE STOP. SO BUT WE'RE TRY TO KEEP IT GOING FOR YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'LL HOLD YOU TO THAT. WE'LL WORK ON IT. WE BETTER GO OKAY. WE ARE BACK FROM OUR TOUR. AND AT THIS POINT OF THE SESSION. CITY MANAGER HAS INFORMED ME THAT THE OTHER PART, WHICH WAS DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE COSTS. WE'RE. HE'S GOING TO SEND US THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING. AND IT IS 8:00. SO WE HAVE DONE OUR 90 MINUTES, AND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN SO GOOD, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE EARLY RELEASE DATE YESTERDAY. NEXT MEETING. THE NEXT MEETING IS WHEN? MAY THE 15TH. SO IT'S NEXT THURSDAY, ONE WEEK FROM TONIGHT, REMEMBER, BECAUSE WE MOVED TONIGHT. SO THE CITY MANAGER WILL NOT BE HERE. THERE'LL BE A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER. SO BE ON YOUR BEST BEHAVIOR. LET'S SAY 13 TO 15, 15, 15. OKAY. SO I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING. COME ON, COME ON. OKAY. NOW WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN AT 8:01 P.M. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.