Apr 22, 2025 Arts Commission

[3. The Arts Commission to consider the following Minutes]

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THE COMMENTS. THERE'S NO QUESTION. TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM. MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. WE HAVE A TIM PERRY A SECOND. SECOND. FROM ANGELA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. SO APPROVED. ALEX, FOR SECRETARY MATERIAL PURPOSES, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO START DOING ROLL CALL VOTES? IS THAT HELPFUL FOR YOU IF WE DO THAT? BECAUSE

[4. Commissioners Reports (limit to 2 minutes each)]

WALKABILITY. WHAT ARE THE RED THINGS THAT. THAT WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO LEAN INTO THEM? SPECIFICALLY, IF THE BOUNDARIES WERE GOING TO BE EXTENDED, WHAT DIRECTION THAT WAS TO BE EXTENDED. THERE WAS NEVER DISCUSSION ON WHICH DIRECTION. SO THERE WAS NEVER.

AND YOU CAN REMIND ME, ALEX, AS YOU WERE IN THE MEETING, THERE WAS NEVER LIKE A FINAL ANY KIND OF DISCUSSION. I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE CITY, TO THE, TO THE MAYOR, AND I THANKED HIM FOR HIS TIME AND THE, THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD. FIRST OF ALL, THE RESOLUTION. HI, TIFFANY. HEY, GUYS. THE RESOLUTION HAS A HAS A HAS LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT IT CAN EXTEND SHOULD SHOULD SHOULD IT BE EXTENDED OR COULD BE EXTENDED. AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE IS AN EXACT MATCH OF THE CULTURAL DISTRICT MANAGEMENT ENTITY. SO THERE'S LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SHOULD CITY COUNCIL DO THE WALK THROUGH AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT THAT WAS THE NATURE OF THE THAT WAS THE NATURE OF THE MEETING. ARTS COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION. LET'S SEE WHAT THEY DO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.

BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, IF IT'S GOING TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION, IT WOULD BE IN MAY. SO THAT'S A COUNCIL REPORT. SO I'M GOING TO GO DOWN HERE AND WE'LL START HERE. COMMISSIONER

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AND IT JUST, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR IS TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE FOUNDATIONS MOVE INTO OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT. AND SO THAT THEY CAN BE PART OF THE SCENE DOWN THERE. SO COOL. IT'S REALLY COOL. THANKS, JEFF. AND BEST BEHAVIOR TOO. THANK YOU. AND MY REPORT RELATES. IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE NORTH. LITTLE ROCK CITY HALL IS WITHIN THAT CULTURAL DISTRICT. AND THE THERE'S A COMEDY THEATER. THERE'S SOME WONDERFUL CONTEMPORARY THEATER. ANYWAY, WE'VE GOT PICTURES, BUT THE SCULPTURE ON THE STREET, LIVE MUSIC, LOTS OF ACTIVITY. AND THERE WAS A LITTLE TROLLEY THAT TAKES PEOPLE AROUND FOR FREE, YOU KNOW, BUT THE, THE IT HAD AN INTERESTING HISTORY BECAUSE THE DAUGHTER OF THE, THE, THE FAMILY DID VERY POORLY IN SCHOOL EXCEPT FOR IN ART. SHE MADE STRAIGHT A'S AND THEN THEY REALIZED SHE NEEDS TO STUDY ART. AND SHE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF GOING TO COLLEGE AND STUDYING ART. AND THEN SHE WAS HIT BY A CAR AND SHE DIED. SO THEY CREATED THE FOUNDATION TO HAVE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE ARTS. THAT'S NICE. NICE ENDING TO A TRAGIC STORY. YES, TRAGIC. THANKS, SAM. SARAH, I HAVE MORE OF A QUESTION. I EMAILED YOU, ALEX AND DEVIN, ABOUT THE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH EVENT, AND I WAS JUST WONDERING ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE WHO DID IT LAST YEAR. WELL, AND I WAS ASKING IF I CAN GET SOMEBODY TO DO IT. THERE'S A BUDGET ISSUE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A BUDGET. OH, YOU HAVE MONEY, BUT YOU DIDN'T BUDGET. SO THERE'S THE THING. AND THIS WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR THE FUNDS EITHER, BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT HOT COMPLIANT BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A THE EVENTS LIKE A COUPLE HOUR EVENT. RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE ACTUALLY. THE WELL THE YOU TALKING ABOUT I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE WE HAVING ARE WE HAVING A BOOTH AT THE HISPANIC. YES. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING ABOUT. YEAH. BUT YOU ALSO IN THAT COMMUNICATION THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT PAYING FOR THE PERFORMERS. SO I MEAN, THAT'S STILL GOT TO BE WORKED OUT. OH, OKAY. SO I AM AWARE OF IT. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET BACK TO THAT, BUT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO SOME BACKGROUND ON IT. OKAY. SO IF YOU NEED TO LIKE, HAVE A GROUP CALL, WE CAN ALL JUMP ON IT. YOU WANT SOME PEOPLE ON IT. LET'S DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. HEY, TIFFANY. HEY, EVERYBODY. WELL, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A COMMISSIONER UPDATE. I HAVE BEEN TO THE ARTS THINGS. IN OHIO, I'VE BEEN TO BATON ROUGE. WE EAT. TIME TO GO TO THE MUSEUM DOWN THERE. I RELATED TO THAT AS WELL AS I MET ROUGE IN NEW ORLEANS. I'LL BE GOING TO THE BLACK BOY ART SHOW. EITHER IN BROOKLYN OR CHICAGO NEXT MONTH. SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY EXCITING. WHAT'S BEEN EXCITING TO ME, THOUGH, IS TO SEE LIKE THE DIFFERENT THINGS, LIKE EVEN IN THE AIRPORTS OR WELCOME AS YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH CITIES, LIKE THE LITTLE ARTISTIC THINGS. AND IT MADE ME JUST KIND OF THINK OF LIKE OUR LIKE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ENTRANCES OF OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S COMING OUT HERE OFF OF 20 OR COMING OFF OF 67. LIKE IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE LIKE SOMETHING THAT THAT POPS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY LOGO AND STUFF ON IT AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF WELCOME SIGN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND MY THOUGHT WAS CREATIVE WAY TO DO THAT AS WELL AS THAT ART GALLERY, SINCE YOU'RE FROM OHIO. I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THAT'S IN THE AIRPORT. AND THEY SWITCH OUT THAT ART EVERY FEW MONTHS. AND I LOVE THAT BECAUSE IT JUST HIGHLIGHTS LIKE THE ARTISTIC

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ANGELA. I ATTENDED THE PLAY AS ANNE'S GUEST AT AMY'S PLAY, WHICH WAS REALLY NICE. THE MURDER OF PLAY. ENJOYED IT. THE MURDER WAS VERY NICE. IT WAS A LOVELY MURDER. IT WAS CUTE. SO MUCH BLOOD. THE MURDER WAS SOLVED. YEAH. THE MURDER WAS SOLVED. ALSO YESTERDAY ATTENDED WITH SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS. DOCTOR BILL, RENEWAL WITH JEREMY KOONTZ. WHO SENT THE INVITE? SO I WENT, AND THAT WAS GOOD. AND GOT SOME REALLY INTERESTING INFORMATION ABOUT DUNCANVILLE AND HISTORY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WHILE HE WAS TALKING, I THOUGHT ABOUT, THIS IS THE TYPE OF STUFF THAT COULD GO INTO A, A GALLERY, A HISTORY GALLERY, OR A PORTION OF AN ART GALLERY AND SHOWING HE HAD A LOT OF COOL PICTURES AND STUFF ABOUT DUNCANVILLE BEFORE AND AFTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IT WAS IT WAS NICE. IT WAS AT THE CO-LAB. I HAD NOT BEEN THERE YET AND THAT WAS. THAT'S A VERY NICE PROPERTY AT THE CO-LAB. I DID GET SOMETHING FROM THE DUNCANVILLE. SCHOOL, MISS DENISE LENKA SERRANO, WHO KEEPS IN TOUCH WITH ME ALL THE TIME, AND SHE'S THE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PERSON, AND THEY HAVE A CULTURAL ARTS FAIR COMING UP ON. MAY. I THINK IT'S MAY 3RD THAT SHE WAS WONDERING IF YOU WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN, BUT I KNEW WE HAD THE THING COMING UP FOR WITH DEVIN ON THE FOURTH, AND IT JUST THAT'D BE A LOT. I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD REALLY HAVE ENOUGH TIME OR WHATEVER TO PARTICIPATE IN IT, AND IF ANYBODY ELSE IS INTERESTED. I THINK THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE AT I HAVE TO LOOK AGAIN. SHE COVERS ACTON, HYMAN SMITH AND DANIEL INTERMEDIATE. AND THEN THEY HAVE THEY HAVE EVENTS, DIFFERENT ONES. SO SHE'S ALWAYS INCLUDING US AND ASKING US TO PARTICIPATE. THAT'S VERY NICE. YEAH. SO IF SOMEBODY HAS THE TIME AND WANTS TO PARTICIPATE, THEN I'LL SEND THEM AN EMAIL. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE ASK IS? ARE THEY ASKING US TO JUST STOP BY OR ARE THEY ASKING US? I THINK THEY WANT US TO, LIKE, MAYBE. OR THEY WANT US TO HAVE A BOOTH. LIKE IF YOU'RE A GROUP OR A CULTURAL ORGANIZATION, YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A TABLE AND DISPLAY YOUR THINGS THAT YOU HAVE COMING UP OR GOING ON. A COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN WE DID PARTICIPATE IN THE PAST. THIS WAS THE ONE THAT MATT AND I DID THE HALLOWEEN THING AND THEY MADE THOSE LITTLE.

YEAH. PUMPKINS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND THEN WE WENT ANOTHER TIME FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY DID. BUT ANYWAYS. OKAY, COOL. YEAH, BUT SHE'S WITH DISD AND SHE'S ALWAYS REACHING OUT TO US TO PARTICIPATE WITH THEM. SO BUT IF WE CAN'T, THAT'S FINE. BUT SHE'LL SEND SOMETHING ELSE.

THERE'LL BE OTHER THINGS. BUT IT'S THE DAY BEFORE. THE BIG BLOOM FEST, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR MY WHERE PEOPLE OUT. THANKS, ANGELA. SO NUMBER FOUR ON THAT AGENDA ITEM

[4.a. Arts Calendar]

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[5. Cultural Plan Consultant discussion]

GENERALLY THE IT'S A PHASED APPROACH TO MONEY. THERE'S A CULTURAL ASSET INVENTORY. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LOT. IT'S PEOPLE, PLACES AND EVENTS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE CULTURAL ARTISTIC INTEGRITY OF THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THAT'S THAT'S TOWN HALLS. THAT'S SURVEYS. THAT'S EVERY TIME PEOPLE COME UP AND PUT POST-ITS ON PIECES OF PAPER.

AND THEN THERE'S A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. AN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY. SO HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU SEEN A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT GETS BOUND AND JUST GOES ON THE SHELF? ARTS AND CULTURE NEEDS TO BE CONNECTED, KINETIC AND ALWAYS MOVING. AND I ALSO THINK JUST BETWEEN YOU AND ME AND WHO'S EVER WATCHING. ARTS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTEGRATE WITH OTHER KINDS OF CULTURAL PLANNING. OTHER KINDS OF PLANNING THAT HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND THEN, OF COURSE, LOOK FOR WAYS TO PARTNER WITH OTHER LOCAL INSTITUTIONS. SO EXAMPLES I PULLED OUT 2 IN 2018, PLANO SPENT ABOUT $120,000 ON THEIR CULTURAL ARTS PLAN, AND THAT INCLUDED A LOT OF TOURISM INTEGRATION. THE CITY OF WACO IN 2020 SPENT ABOUT $60,000 ON THEIR PLAN, AND IT WAS MORE FOCUSED ON ASSET MAPPING AND EQUITY. SO IT'S NOT A ONE PLAN FITS ALL. IT'S WHAT DO WE WANT OUT OF THE PLAN. AND YOU SEE SOME EXAMPLES HERE. I THINK MY SAGE ADVICE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT WAS I SAID GOOGLE IT, WHICH, BY THE WAY, PEOPLE ARE LAUGHING AT ME TODAY BECAUSE I TOLD YOU ALL TO GOOGLE IT. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE CAN, AS WE DISCUSSED THIS AND YOU DO SOME HOMEWORK ON YOUR OWN, IS THINK ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR DUNCANVILLE. THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT EXAMPLES, A LOT OF ROBUST EXAMPLES. DESOTO IS PROBABLY KIND OF CLOSER TO OUR SIZE. CITY

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AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING WHETHER THEY'RE EVENTS IN THE PARK OR MUSICIANS AND THAT KIND OF THING AND THOSE FREE ACTIVITIES SO THAT WE'RE ARTS FRIENDLY. AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE WE'RE THERE. I THINK WE HAVE A GOAL, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE. AND I THINK THE PLAN COULD GET US THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE THE THEATER FOR A LOT OF YEARS AND WE'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AN ISLAND, SORT OF, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. I'VE ALWAYS SAID ART BREEDS ART. AND WE'RE ENCOURAGED TO DO MORE WITH THE CHILDREN AND THE YOUTH AND EVEN ADULT THINGS. BUT EVERY TIME WE'VE OFFERED IT, THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT AN OUTPOURING OF INTEREST. AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE, AS A CITY, CULTIVATED THAT. AND I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE ANY ACTIVITIES THAT WE CAN DO TO ACTUALLY DO THAT. AND I THINK A PLAN WILL ULTIMATELY BE IMPORTANT, AS SHE SAID, THE ROADMAP. WHAT KIND OF THINGS? JUST TO START WETTING OUR WHISTLE LIKE IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD MAKE US A MORE ART FRIENDLY COMMUNITY? YOU SAID LIKE THE EVENTS, IS IT? I THINK I YOU KNOW, AND PART OF IT IS I DO LOOK AT THE WACO WACO CULTURAL ARTS ORGANIZATION, BECAUSE MY SISTER WAS IN THE FOUNDING ON THAT, AND IT STARTED OUT SO SMALL WITH LITTLE EVENTS ALONG THE RIVER. I MEAN, WE WERE ALL I WAS SCHLEPPING SOUND GEAR THERE TO HELP THEM GET IT SET UP AND CARVING PUMPKINS, YOU KNOW, FREE THINGS THAT THE KIDS COULD COME AND DO. AND SO YOU START ON THAT. IT'S FREE AND IT'S FAMILY ORIENTED AND YOU CAN BUILD IT. BUT THAT'S WHAT I THINK THAT ROADMAP WOULD BE, IS, TO ME, A WAY THAT WE DO. WE START WITH THOSE SMALL EVENTS THAT AREN'T THAT ALMOST SEEM DISORGANIZED SO THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT. YOU COULD USE THE WORD ORGANIC. WELL, I COULD SAY ORGANIC, BUT I DON'T REALLY THINK OF IT AS ORGANIC BECAUSE IT'S PLANNED. BUT YOU DON'T. IT'S YOU WANT IT TO SEEM NON-THREATENING. KIDS CAN COME, BUT THEN THEY CAN PLAY IN THE PARK. THEY CAN DO THINGS. THEY CAN FLOAT BACK AND FORTH WHERE IT SEEMS VERY FAMILY FRIENDLY, BUT BUT LESS. AN ORGANIZED EVENT LIKE ON MAY 2ND IS GOOD AND THAT'S LOVELY, BUT PERHAPS SOME LESS ORGANIZED TYPE EVENTS THAT SEEM MORE FRIENDLY WOULD BE GOOD. TIFFANY, YOU HAVE AN OPINION. I DO WANT TO AGREE WITH THE LADIES. I THINK THAT THIS IS ALMOST LIKE A WORKSHOP, RIGHT? BECAUSE I THINK OUR JOB IS ALWAYS TO BE THOROUGH IN THAT WAY WHEN WE SPEAK. IT MAKES SENSE. SO I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULD NEED TO DEFER TO BE ABLE TO LOOK THROUGH IT. BUT JUST IN JUST GENERAL PLANNING, WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, I DO NOW. I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE BECOME A WAY MORE ARTIST FRIENDLY COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF CREATING THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO LAST A LIFETIME IN THIS COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT WITH BETWEEN THE MIXERS, I THINK THE HISPANIC HERITAGE AND THE JUNETEENTH, I THINK THAT WE HAVE REALLY DID AN OUTREACH TO MAKE SURE DIVERSITY IS A PART OF OUR OUR FOCUS AND JUST MAKING IT INCLUSIVE IN OUR ENVIRONMENT.

AND I ALSO THINK THAT THE AMOUNT OF ART THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DISPLAY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WHETHER THAT BE ART PAINTINGS, WHETHER IT BE DANCE OR WHAT HAVE YOU, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE CAME A

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AND YOU SEE FOLKS SITTING AROUND THIS ROOM, IF WE ASK THEM, WE CAN'T THEY'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

BUT IF WE ASK THEM WHAT THEY THINK, THEY WOULD HAVE BRAND NEW THINGS TO ADD TO OUR LIST TO.

THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS AS WE START LISTENING TO FOLKS WHO POTENTIALLY COULD BE PATRONS.

SO. WOULD YOU WOULD THE COMMISSION LIKE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT A CULTURAL PLAN? ONE OF THE REASONS I BROUGHT IT UP IS THE CITY MANAGER SAID CITIES WORK BY PLANS. SO IF YOU WANT TO INVEST IN THE CULTURAL INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE COMMUNITY, WE NEED A PLAN. SO IS THIS A CONVERSATION THAT WE CAN CONTINUE? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A QUESTION. THE INITIALLY WHEN YOU INTRODUCED THIS CONCEPT, YOU INTRODUCED IT WITH THE IDEA OF A CITY HIRING A CULTURAL PLANNER TO HELP DEVELOP A CULTURAL PLAN. JUST NOW I SAID THAT, YEAH. JUST NOW. AND JUST.

YEAH. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD PUT FORWARD TO THE, TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF THAT, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A VERY LARGE FINANCIAL INVESTMENT TO, TO DEVELOP THAT KIND OF A THING. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IF WE THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT, THE ARTS COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO SAY THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR THE FUTURE OF THE ARTS. AND THAT'S WHY I TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF WHAT KIND OF SCOPE. SO PART OF MY RESEARCH IS AS A CITY ABOUT OUR SIZE, ANYWHERE FROM 50,000 TO $120,000 FOR A CULTURAL PLAN. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S THAT'S UNDERWAY IS GOING OR HOW MUCH DESTINATION DUNCANVILLE IS, BUT IT ALLOWS THAT EXPERTISE TO COME IN. THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE OUTSIDE IN. SO ESSENTIALLY, OSTENSIBLY WHAT A PLAN DOES, IS IT NO MATTER WHO'S IN CITY COUNCIL OR WHO'S CITY HALL OR WHO'S AT THIS ARTS COMMISSION, THERE'S A PLAN TO MOVE IT FORWARD. THAT WHAT YOU MEANT? YEAH. SO WE WOULD THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION THAT THE ARTS COMMISSION WOULD HAVE TO SAY, OKAY, WE NEED TO DECIDE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS IMPORTANT TO INVEST IN FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE? DO WE NEED TO WRITE GRANTS FOR IT? DO WE NEED TO LOOK FOR FUNDRAISING FOR IT SO IT BECOMES HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR THIS ARTS COMMISSION TO HAVE A CULTURAL PLAN? SO CLEARLY, THE CONVERSATION WILL PROBABLY MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION AS WELL. BUT I WOULD HAVE I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THESE THAT THAT ALEX PRINTED OUT. GO ONLINE. AMY'S RIGHT. WACO IS A GOOD, GOOD CITY TO LOOK AT. EXCELLENT CITY TO LOOK AT. DALLAS IS GOOD. EXCEPT THEY DON'T. MONEY'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR THEM. SO. THINK ABOUT THAT. SO ITEM SIX IS THE ARTS FUNDING POLICY DISCUSSION. FIRST OF ALL

[6. Arts Funding Policy discussion]

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REIMBURSEMENT. THE WAY THE POLICY WORKS NOW IS IF YOU APPLY FOR A GRANT FROM THE ARTS COMMISSION, YOU GET A CHECK. IF YOU'RE IF YOU IF YOU GET I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GO A LITTLE AND THEN I'M GOING TO ASK ALEX TO TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE KIND OF A COMPLICATED PROCESS THAT STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE ON, AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THE WHAT THE BURDEN ON STAFF IS GOING TO BE. THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, IS HAVE A GRANT CYCLE. WHAT WE FOUND WAS, IS THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT DID THIS WELL HAD A GRANT CYCLE THAT ALLOWS US TO TAKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO RECEIVE A BUNCH OF APPLICATIONS.

WE REVIEW APPLICATIONS WITHIN CONTEXT OF ONE ANOTHER. THEY'RE COMPETITIVE. AND THEN WE AND THEN THE ARTS COMMISSION WILL CHOOSE THERE'S A RANKING SYSTEM AND THEN THE ARTS COMMISSION WILL, WILL WILL COME TOGETHER AND CHOOSE THE CITY STAFF KIND OF THE WAY IT WORKS. WE'LL REVIEW FIRST JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ELIGIBLE. SO IF THEY'RE IN IN TUSCALOOSA AND THEY'RE NOT COMING TO DUNCANVILLE, THEY WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE. SO STAFF CAN CAN VET SOME OF THOSE. ARTS COMMISSION WOULD PROBABLY ON THE DAY THAT WE WOULD MEET WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE ACTUALLY KIND OF A STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS. THE ARTS COMMISSION, WHEN IT'S TIME TO REVIEW APPLICATIONS, REVIEW APPLICATIONS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHEN THINGS CAN BE FUNDED AND THEN WE CAN MAKE OUR DECISIONS. THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION TO STRATEGIC PLAN. WHAT BETTER TIME TO DO A STRATEGIC PLAN THAN YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE FUNDING IS GOING TO GO. THIS IS ALSO A GOOD TIME WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE REQUESTS ARE COMING FROM THE COMMUNITY, IT'S A GOOD TIME TO LOOK AT, OKAY, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE HARD ASSETS IN TOWN THAT THAT WOULD IMPROVE THIS? FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE WERE A BUNCH OF APPLICATIONS AND EVERYBODY WANTED TO USE HOPKINS, THEN WE LOOK AT, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEIR STAGE IS GOING TO BE NEEDED REPLACED. ARE THERE AVS GOING TO NEED TO BE REPLACED? SO WE NEED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL ON THAT. OR IF, IF EVERYBODY WANTS IF, IF WE RECEIVED A ONE QUARTER EVERYBODY WANTED A MURAL, THEN THE ARTS COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL AND SAY, EVERYBODY WANTS A MURAL. WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF PURPOSE BEHIND IT.

RIGHT NOW, THE SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS IS TRYING TO BE THE CITY WITH THE MOST MURALS IN THE COUNTRY. AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT MURALS IN MANY DIFFERENT WALLS. THEY HAVE A NONPROFIT SPECIFICALLY TO DO WITH MURALS, AND THEN THEY HAVE THESE THESE THE LIKE. YOU CAN LOOK AT IT VIRTUALLY THROUGH GOOGLE MAPS, OR YOU CAN GO THERE AND SEE THE MURAL. SO THERE'S SO THERE'S LOTS. SO THE POINT IS BEING STRATEGIC. AND UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS WE CAN'T BE STRATEGIC. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE IDEA OF PUTTING THE. THE. THE GRANT CYCLE TOGETHER.

SO WE'VE ADDRESSED WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE REIMBURSED. WE ADDRESSED. HOW HOW THE APPLICATION IS GOING TO BE REVIEWED. THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME GUIDELINES ON ON HOW WE CAN SCORE IT. WE CAN HAVE POINTS. THE COMMISSION COULD DECIDE WE WANT TO LIMIT. FOR INSTANCE, I WROTE IN A DOCUMENT I DON'T RECALL IF IT'S IN THERE, BUT I SAID A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES WILL PUT LIMITS ON HOW MUCH THEIR THEIR COMMISSION WILL FUND. SO IT WILL ONLY FUND 30%

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AGAIN, FUNDING LIMITS. WHO QUALIFIES FOR IT? WHAT THE WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, MUST OCCUR IN DUNCANVILLE AND SERVE A PUBLIC PURPOSE. AND THEN THE PUBLIC ARTS GRANTS WHICH ARE GOING TO BE THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS UNDER THAT. IF YOU ALL WANTED TO DO A PROJECT, YOU WOULD DO A CALL FOR ARTISTS AND HAVE DETERMINE WHAT YOUR BUDGET IS FOR THAT PROJECT. THAT WOULD BE WHAT THE ARTIST WOULD BE PAID. AND THEN AN ARTIST INITIATED. AN ARTIST APPLIES TO DO A PUBLIC ART PROJECT. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE TYPES. IT GOES INTO ELIGIBILITY AND RESTRICTIONS. THERE WAS A QUESTION ASKED ABOUT OPERATE.

I'M NOT SURE. THE GOAL IS YOU WANT THIS TO BE DUNCANVILLE MONEY THAT'S GOING INTO DUNCANVILLE. AND IT'S BASICALLY IT'S DUNCANVILLE MONEY AND IT'S BEING SPENT HERE. SO IT'S EITHER BY RESIDENTS OR PEOPLE WHO OPERATE BUSINESSES HERE OR NONPROFITS WHO OPERATE OUT OF DUNCANVILLE. SO IT'S ABOUT HAVING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING IT HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE CITY AND ARE RETURNING TO THE CITY. THINGS THAT ARE NOT. WE'VE GOT A NON-ELIGIBLE LIST, TOO. SO FULL TIME CITY EMPLOYEES, PEOPLE WHO SUBMIT MULTIPLE TIMES PER CYCLE. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY ONCE, WAIT A YEAR, APPLY NEXT TIME, WAIT A YEAR, AND ALSO WE HAVE A REPORT REQUIREMENT. IT WAS ASKED FOR 45 DAYS. I PUT THAT IN 45 DAYS AFTER THE PROJECT, AS I BELIEVE IT IS AFTER THE PROJECT'S COMPLETION THAT THEY HAVE TO TURN IN THAT REPORT WITHIN 45 DAYS. SO I ALSO WORKED WITH FISCAL SERVICES. SO THAT IS WHAT CAME UP WITH A FISCAL 20 FISCAL YEAR 26 SCHEDULE WE WOULD USE TO START THIS OFF. AUGUST WOULD BE MARKETING AND AN INFO SESSION THAT WOULD BE LIKE BASICALLY A TOWN HALL THAT WE WOULD DO JUST SOLELY ABOUT THIS TOPIC. FROM SEPTEMBER 1ST TO 30TH, THERE WOULD BE AN APPLICATION PERIOD.

SO WE WILL CREATE A SECTION OF THE WEBSITE, A FILLABLE DOCUMENT, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST FILL OUT THE FORM ONLINE, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A SET DEADLINE. SO CREATING BOUNDARIES. SOMEBODY CAN'T SEND SOMETHING ON OCTOBER 1ST AND BE CONSIDERED THERE. THERE WOULD BE RULES THAT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW. I FIGURED BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH COUNCIL SCHEDULE, COUNCIL SCHEDULE IS LOCKED. YOUR SCHEDULE IS ALSO LOCKED, BUT YOUR MEETING AT IN NOVEMBER IS CLOSE TO THANKSGIVING, OR YOUR MEETING IN OCTOBER IS REALLY, REALLY CLOSE TO THE NOVEMBER 4TH MEETING. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. AND SO I THOUGHT THERE MAY BE AN OPTION FOR THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION TO CONSIDER A FOUR TIME, A YEAR SPECIAL MEETING THAT IS ONLY DEDICATED TO REVIEWING THE APPLICATIONS, TO MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THE APPLICATIONS. NO OTHER BUSINESS OTHER THAN THAT. THEN IT WOULD GO TO NOVEMBER 4TH. ALL OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD GO TO COUNCIL, AND THEN IN NOVEMBER THERE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS FROM THAT POINT THAT FISCAL SERVICES WOULD BE ABLE TO DISPERSE THOSE FUNDS. THE US BEING ABLE TO DO THAT MEANS THAT INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION, WHICH IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE PACKETS THAT I SENT, EACH PERSON WHO SUBMITS WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT A VENDOR PACKET SO THAT WE ONCE WE REACH THE POINT WHERE YOU HAVE DECIDED THE LIST THAT ARE GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT STAGE, THOSE WILL ALSO GO TO PROCUREMENT SO THAT THEY CAN ENTER IN AS A VENDOR. WE HAVE TO

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SO I WOULD TAKE THIS SIMILARLY TO HOW SOMEBODY WOULD HANDLE A PUBLIC MEETING. LET THEM BE PRESENT FOR THAT APPEALS PROCESS, AND THAT APPEALS WOULD BE HANDLED BY CITY COUNCIL AS THEY ASKED FOR. HEY ALEX BEFORE BECAUSE I'LL FORGET. I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE THIS FINANCE THE APPEALS. I MIGHT RECOMMEND THAT CITY ATTORNEY.

LOOK AT THAT. THIS IS IF YOU ARE AT THE POINT THAT YOU ARE READY TO MOVE ON FROM THIS, YOU'RE GOOD WITH THIS. I'M GOING TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY LOOK AT IT BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL. SO IT'LL GO FROM YOU. WE LIKE WHAT'S IN HERE, BUT VET IT. SO BASICALLY YOUR APPROVAL OF IT IS SENDING IT TO THE NEXT STEP. THE NEXT STEP IS CITY MANAGER CITY ATTORNEY. PERFECT. MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE BOTH SEEN IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT A DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL. THAT IS NOT YOUR THUMBS UP AND IS NOT MEET ALL THE LEGAL AND POLICIES OF THE CITY. THERE IS A WHOLE LIST, SO THE HOT FUN STUFF IS JUST PULLING OVER FROM WHAT IS IN THE ARTS FUND POLICY.

THERE IS A SECTION ON WHAT IS NOT WHO IS NOT ELIGIBLE. ALSO WHAT IS PROHIBITED USES. SO AGAIN YOU WANT THIS TO BE FOR ART. THAT IS THE GOAL. IT SHOULD NOT BE FOR PAYING WHAT YOU DIDN'T PAY LAST AT YOUR LAST EVENT OR FOR PRIVATE EVENTS. SO EACH ONE OF THESE HAS A THING THAT MUST OCCUR IN DUNCANVILLE AND SERVE A PUBLIC PURPOSE. SO I HAD A CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY ABOUT THIS. WHAT IF A BUSINESS WANTED TO APPLY TO HAVE HIRE A MUSICIAN TO PLAY INSIDE THEIR BUSINESS? THAT IS NOT A PUBLIC PURPOSE. THAT IS A PRIVATE PURPOSE. NOW, WHAT IF A GROUP OF BUSINESSES WANTED TO APPLY FOR A FUND, BUT THEY WANTED TO PUT THEM IN A PUBLIC SPACE SO THAT

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RIGHT. WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF. AND THAT'S AND I WOULD WRITE ON THAT VOTE IF, IF THE THEATER WERE APPLYING, THE ONLY THING IT SAYS MUST RECUSE THEMSELVES. AND PER THE TEXAS ETHICS COMMISSION, IT HAS THEY THEIR ADVICE WAS FROM THE VOTE ON ANY FUNDS WE WERE APPLYING FOR, NOT RECUSE MYSELF IN GENERAL. SO THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE MORE SPECIFIC. YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE NEED IT. AND THAT'S ANOTHER WELL, THAT WAS MY THIRD QUESTION. SO I JUST KIND OF SEGUE INTO THAT. BUT I'LL LET EVERYONE ELSE ANSWER. BUT I WANT TO COME BACK TO THAT. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HER QUESTION? IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A PRIVATE EVENT BASED ON WHAT ALEX JUST SAID.

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DOES THAT ANSWER. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY AND THEN WE'LL CAN WE CIRCLE BACK TO THAT QUESTION YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT. YEAH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SAYING IS, IS THAT YOU CAN RECUSE YOURSELF, AMY. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT PREVIOUSLY I THOUGHT WE HAD MADE IT. NOW THIS IS BEFORE WE EVEN GOT BUDGET. SO, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED SO MUCH. AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IS THIS LIKE, BECAUSE YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU COULD RECUSE YOURSELF, BUT THAT WOULD BE, I THOUGHT BEFORE WE ESTABLISHED THAT WOULD BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST BECAUSE YOU SERVE ON THE BOARD, THAT WOULD BE LIKE THEM NEEDING SOMEONE TO DO AN EVENT, AND THEY HIRED MY COMPANY AS A MARKETING COMPANY. THAT WOULDN'T BE DOABLE BECAUSE I I'M ON THE ARTS COMMISSION.

CORRECT. SO WOULD THAT NOT BE THE SAME FOR YOU? ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS ETHICS COMMISSION, WHICH IS WHO I WAS INSTRUCTED TO CALL THAT, THE ANSWER WAS THAT I WOULD BE BECAUSE OF MY HISTORY

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RIGHT. AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT. SO MAYBE THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE'RE WE'RE STARTING TO EXERCISE THESE THAT WE GOT IT RIGHT. SO WE DON'T GIVE WE DON'T ALLOW ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAP INTO THIS MONEY, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME TO, YOU KNOW, AND THAT KIND OF LEADS ME INTO MY THIRD AND FINAL QUESTION. MY THIRD AND FINAL QUESTION WAS IS, I KNOW ORIGINALLY IN THE FIRST DRAFT, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS REALLY ADAMANT ABOUT WAS MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY HAD A LIMITATION ON HOW MUCH MONEY THEY COULD, AND THERE WAS NOT ANY SPECIFIC.

I KNOW THERE WAS. I SAW THAT DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T GET MORE THAN 30% OF THE BUDGET AND STUFF, BUT THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFICALLY THAT SAYS THE CITY CANNOT, BECAUSE EVEN IF WE GOT, LET'S SAY, 30% OF THE BUDGET IN 3000 WENT TO THE LIBRARY AND 2000 WENT TO THE BLOOM FEST, THERE'S I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SPECIFIC VERBIAGE IN THERE THAT

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AND YOU WANT TO PUT A PERCENTAGE OR TELL ME EXACTLY HOW YOU WANT. WELL, I THINK IF WE PUT MONEY, IF WE SAY, OKAY, THEY CAN'T GET OVER $50,000, I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE MUCH BECAUSE WE GOT A SMALL BUDGET NOW. AND SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GOT $1.2 MILLION IN THERE? LIKE SO? I DO THINK IT'S A PERCENTAGE. I THINK LIKE EVEN THOUGH YOU GUYS CAN SAY, WELL, IT'S 137. SO THIS YEAR LET'S SAY WE LIMIT IT TO 10,000. THAT'S $13,000. LET'S SAY IN GENERAL THAT THEY HAVE DURING THE YEAR THAT WE CAN SAY 3000 AS A LIBRARY, 1000 GOES TO BLOOM FEST, 2000 GOES TO THE CHRISTMAS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PHOTO BOOTH, WHATEVER IT IS. RIGHT? WELL, WHEN WE GROW, THAT PERCENTAGE GROWS FOR THEM. SO EVENTUALLY IT MAY BE $1 MILLION THAT THEY HAVE. SO HERE'S AN ANALOGY THAT WE COULD CONSIDER AS WE THINK ABOUT THAT IS, AND I'M KEEPING IN MIND WHAT I THINK THAT YOUR INTENT IS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS JUST AS MUCH ACCESS TO IT AS THE CITY DOES. ABSOLUTELY. SO THEORETICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT APPLICATIONS QUARTERLY, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME STIPULATIONS ON THE APPLICATION FOR WHICH THEY REVIEW. PART OF THAT BEHIND THAT IS THESE ARE GOING TO BE STRATEGIC. SO WHAT IF MOST STRATEGIC THING IS SOMETHING THE CITY WANTS TO DO. IT EXCEEDS THAT PERCENTAGE. BUT IT REALLY IS THE BEST THING FOR THAT QUARTER BASED ON WHAT THE OTHER GRANT REQUESTS ARE. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS FOR FUTURE ARTS COMMISSIONS, IS IT BETTER FOR US TO DETERMINE A LIMIT ON IT, OR IS IT BETTER FOR US TO JUST KEEP IN MIND, IN THE POLICY THAT COMMUNITY COMES FIRST OR THIS IS A COMPETITIVE GRANT? SO WHAT'S THE MOST COMPETITIVE GRANT? HER CONCERN IS IF WE HAVE A $6 MILLION FUND, AND IS THE CITY GOING TO TAKE $5.5 MILLION OF IT? BUT AS FAR AS STRATEGY FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION, WHAT IF THAT'S THE YEAR THAT WE CAN HAVE A BUILDING BUILT AND WE NEED TO GET INTO IT MORE? HOW DO WE HOW DO WE DRAFT LANGUAGE THAT PRESERVES THE EQUITY AND THE TRANSPARENCY? EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO IT, BUT IT ALLOWS US TO BE STRATEGIC IN THE WAY THAT A FUTURE ARTS COMMISSION CAN FUND IT. THAT CAN BE A CONTINGENCY, I THINK, ON IT WHERE WHERE IT'S 10%, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING OVER THAT MUST BE A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE COMMISSION TO DISCUSS. LIKE, I WANT TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S IMPORTANT. AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THE WAY I FEEL I'M GONNA SAY WHAT I, WHAT I BELIEVE, AND I ALWAYS LOOK AT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHO I SERVE. I DON'T SERVE, YOU KNOW ANYONE ELSE? I SERVE THE COMMUNITY OF DUNCANVILLE, AND WE ARE AN EXTENSION OF THE CITY. AND I ALWAYS WANT TO DO MY BEST JOB.

RIGHT. AND THIS IS THE TIME TO SAY IT IF I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. RIGHT. AND SO I'M JUST

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THAT'S 15% OF THE REVENUE. DUNCANVILLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FROM THE FROM THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND, THAT 15% GETS DUMPED IN THERE AND IT CAN GO ON THE NEXT YEAR. SO SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT I THINK THAT COULD HELP US PRESERVE THAT IS, IS HOW WE WANT TO SEE THE MONEY USED. SO THE CITY MANAGER HAD INDICATED TO ME A GREAT WAY TO THINK ABOUT BUDGETING FOR THESE, SAY, OUR ANTICIPATED GRANT SPENDING FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR IS $115,000. AND ADDITIONAL IS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE NUMBERS GO OUT TO, ANYTHING THAT'S NOT SPENT ROLLS OVER. WE CAN ALSO PUT IN A RESERVE, IF WE HAD EVERY SINGLE YEAR, WE WANT 3% TO BE PULLED INTO RESERVE. YOU HEARD ME TALK TO MR. JACKSON ABOUT THAT. THAT MONEY THEN IS TAKEN INTO THE INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNTS THAT THE CITY HAS MAKE SOME MONEY ON IT AND THEN IT GOES BACK INTO THE FUND. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. THESE ARE ALL QUESTIONS OF EQUITY AND FAIRNESS. AND WE'RE GOING TO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START WITH LANGUAGE THAT PROTECTS THE EQUITY AND FAIRNESS THAT THAT TIFFANY'S TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT LIMITING OUR ABILITY TO BE STRATEGIC. SO THAT WAS GOING TO SAY IF RIGHT NOW IF IT IS NO, THE CITY CANNOT HAVE WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR MORE THAN 30% OF THE FUND. THAT THAT COULD BE OUR RECOMMENDATION AND THE CITY COUNCIL COULD SAY, SORRY, THEY CAN HAVE AS MUCH AS THEY WANT FROM IT. SO BUT IF THE IF THE IF THE PURPOSE OF THE LANGUAGE IS PRIORITY SHOULD BE GIVEN TO COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS BEFORE CITY, UNLESS THERE'S A STRATEGIC REASON, AND THEN THE AND THEN THE ARTS COMMISSION CAN HELP DO THAT. SO SAYING THAT, IS THERE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW SO WE COULD TAKE ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT. SO IF YOU WANT TO SAY WHATEVER IT IS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND WE CAN VOTE ON IT. BUT BUT IF IT NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN, I IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING SHOULD BE WRITTEN THAT SAYS THAT IF YOU WANT ME TO WORK ON THAT, I CAN.

BUT I, YOU KNOW, AND I BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN AND IT NEEDS TO BE IN WRITTEN FORM IN THIS DOCUMENT. THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. I COULD WELL, IT DOES.

AND SO WHAT CAN HAPPEN IS IF WE CAN KIND OF FIGURE OUT THAT LANGUAGE. I'M SORRY, TIM, IF WE CAN KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT LANGUAGE IS TONIGHT, HE CAN PUT IT IN THAT DOCUMENT RIGHT NOW.

WE CAN VOTE ON IT. I GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BREATHING ROOM. THIS ONE IS WRITTEN FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 2026, 26. IT'S FISCAL YEAR 26. IT'S NOT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE THIS IS GIVING YOU GUYS THE BREATHING ROOM IN ORDER TO GET A POLICY THAT YOU'RE ALL 100% ON BOARD ON, RATHER THAN RUSHING TO DO SOMETHING TO START FUNDING IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE YOU HAVE ANOTHER ARTS COMMISSION.

THIS IS BASICALLY AT THIS POINT, THIS COULD BE THE THING THAT YOU'RE SETTING UP THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION, RIGHT? BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE'RE PROVIDING THE, THE, THE, THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BECAUSE WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME. SO AND SO. THANK YOU. I THINK IT COMES DOWN FIRST TO THE COMMISSION. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE ABOUT WE'RE GIVING MONEY TO THE CITY FOR TO SUPPORT THEIR EVENTS. I SEE NOTHING IN THIS DOCUMENT. MAYBE THAT'S THE POLICY THAT WILL BE ADDED IN. BUT I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO THE COMMISSION DECIDING, IS THAT SOMETHING WHEN THE EVENTS ASKED FOR 60 GRAND FROM OUR BUDGET, THAT KIND OF RAISED THE FLAG OF, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, ARE WE FUNDING? IS IT AN EXTERNAL FUNDING SOURCE FOR

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THE COMMUNITY IS TO, YOU KNOW, ATTRACT NONPROFITS, ATTRACT ARTISTS, ATTRACT, YOU KNOW, CREATE, HELP, CREATE EVENTS FROM THE OUTSIDE TO, TO THE OUTSIDE, MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE OUTSIDE AND NOT INTERNALLY TO THE BACK, TO THE CITY. I MEAN, THAT THAT WAS KIND OF HOW I SEE IT. SO IF SOMEONE COMES AND THEY HAVE A BUDGET, WE WON'T CONSIDER IT. WHAT DO YOU MEAN, THE CITY, LIKE IF PARKS GOES, WOULD WE WOULD WE CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR PARKS OR NOT? I THINK IT WOULD BE A POLICY THAT WE JUST DON'T. I MEAN, IF EITHER WE DECIDE THAT WE DON'T DO IT AT ALL, THAT WE DON'T DO IT AT ALL. I MEAN, THIS THIS IS FUNDING FOR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE TO SUPPLEMENT WHAT THE CITY'S ALREADY DOING. SO I NEED EVERYBODY'S VOICE ON THIS. YEAH. WE ALL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

YEAH. WELL, THE ONLY THING OUT OF THE CATEGORY, THE ONLY AREA THAT IT TALKS ABOUT FUNDING FOR CITY DEPARTMENTS, IS UNDER THE SINGLE PROJECT SUPPORT GRANTS. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF YOU DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT. JUST CROSS IT OUT BECAUSE THAT MONEY WE'RE GIVING THEM, WHY WOULDN'T WE GIVE JUNETEENTH 10,000 AND GIVE SARAH 10,000 FOR HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH SO WE CAN HAVE A BIGGER, BETTER ONE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE KNOW WE HAVE BECOME A STAPLE OF WHAT WE DO YEAR ROUND. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE FUNDING. THIS IS JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION, YOU KNOW? BUT I JUST LOOK AT IT LIKE SARAH ASKED FOR WHAT'S $1,500? AND WE SAY, WELL, SHE AIN'T GOT NO BUDGET. THEN WHY CAN'T WE GIVE HER A BUDGET FOR $5,000, A MINIMUM OR $5,000 MINIMUM? WE'RE NOT EVEN INVESTING IN OUR OWN PROGRAMS. WERE WE OUT HERE INVESTING IN CITY PROGRAMS? WE'RE AN EXTENSION OF THE CITY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND TO TURN AROUND AND PICK UP SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO DO. SO I JUST FEEL LIKE, SO YOU THINK IT'S OKAY, THE CITY CAN HAVE SOME MONEY. IF IT WAS UP TO ME. NO. OKAY. THAT'S JUST AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE I LOOK AT IT A DIFFERENT WAY. IT'S NOT ANYTHING AGAINST THE CITY. I JUST FEEL LIKE HOW CAN HOW ANGELA AND HOW THE THINGS WE DO DON'T EVEN HAVE A BUDGET, BUT WE'RE GIVING A BUDGET AWAY. OKAY. SO LET'S LET'S TALK. WE HAVE THREE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

I HAVEN'T VOICED THAT. DO YOU WANT TO DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS? I, I AGREE ON A BROAD SCALE. I DO THINK THERE'S SPECIFIC OPPORTUNITIES WHERE I THINK FROM A BRANDING PERSPECTIVE, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION'S LOGO TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

BLOOM FEST IS ONE OF THOSE BECAUSE IT'S AN ARTS ACTIVITY, I DON'T THINK. I THINK THAT WE SHOULDN'T GIVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT I DO THINK THE TO SHOW SOME COLLABORATION. I DO AGREE THAT THE CITY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO FUND ITS OWN PROGRAMS, BUT I LOOK AT THAT MORE AS AND I SAID THIS AFTER DEVIN FIRST CAME, INSTEAD OF ASKING FOR A GRANT. IT'S MORE OF AN ASK OF COLLABORATION. AND COULD WE MIGHT USE SOME OF OUR RESOURCES TO HAVE THAT CHILDREN'S OR FAMILY PAINTING AREA THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, NOT NECESSARILY A GRANT TO THE CITY, BUT WE WOULD BE WE WOULD BE SPENDING FUNDS SO THAT WE COULD COLLABORATE AND HAVE OUR LOGO THERE AND SHOW THAT WE WERE COLLABORATING WITH THAT EVENT IN SOME WAY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT.

LIKE, WHY SHOULDN'T LIKE IF IT'S A FESTIVAL, WHY SHOULDN'T WE GET A FREE BOOTH THERE ANYWAY? I MEAN, WE'RE, WE ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, I HEAR SARAH, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK IT CAME UP WITH THE LIBRARY DISCUSSION WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE CHILDREN'S EVENT, AND THEY WERE HOPING THAT

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AND LIKE THE CITY, IF THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THEY DO WHAT THEY CAN WITH THAT. AND YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR US TO ALWAYS HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMETHING, BUT YEAH, WELL, WE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TWO FUNDING SOURCES HERE. ONE IS HOT. OKAY. THAT'S REALLY RESTRICTED. RIGHT. AND THE OTHER IS, YOU KNOW, CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS, PRIVATE GRANTS.

ALL RIGHT. CORPORATE PRIVATE GRANTS. SO THESE PEOPLE ARE GIVING MONEY. THEY'RE ADDING IT.

YOU KNOW, WE GET A CORPORATE GRANT OR A STATE GRANT, LET'S SAY IF WE QUALIFY AND WE PUT IT INTO OUR FUNDS, IS IT DO WE USE THE MONEY THEN TO, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE USE THAT MONEY? BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING GRANTS WITH EXPECTATIONS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT QUALIFIES TECHNICALLY FOR TECHNICALLY GRANTS FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE, FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. RIGHT? PURPOSE. RIGHT.

YEAH. SO WHATEVER RESTRICTIONS COME WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM FROM THOSE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, PROBABLY IS GOING TO RESTRICT HOW WE CAN USE EVEN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR MONEY, IF YOU KNOW. SO. AND THE OTHER THING WITH THE, WITH THE FUNDING SOURCE, I DON'T SEE A LINE ITEM THAT SAYS EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, THE CITY FROM THE CITY BUDGET. THEY WILL ALSO CONTRIBUTE A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO, TO OUR FUND. I SEE EITHER WE GET MONEY FROM THESE OTHER SOURCES OR WE GET IT FROM THE HOT FUND. BUT WHAT ABOUT A LINE ITEM FROM THE CITY BUDGET ITSELF EVERY YEAR? YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO HERE, LET ME, LET ME LET ME ASK EVERYBODY A QUESTION. AND ARE WE RESTRICTING FUTURE ARTS COMMISSIONS BY TIFFANY TALK ABOUT THIS. IF WE SAY IF WE CAP CITY FUNDING AT WHATEVER LEVEL, LET'S SAY 10% CITY CANNOT APPLY FOR MORE THAN 10% OF THE AVAILABLE FUNDS THAT QUARTER THAT YEAR, WHATEVER. IF THAT'S A POLICY, ARE WE RESTRICTING FUTURE ARTS COMMISSIONS AND THEIR OWN DECISION MAKING? SO LET'S SAY. YEAH, I DON'T I AGREE I DON'T THE MINUTE YOU USE THE WORD POLICY, I THINK WE HAVE THE RIGHT AS THE COMMISSION TO REVIEW ANY GRANT APPLICATION. AND IF WE FEEL THAT IT DOESN'T SERVE THE GREATER GOOD AS MUCH AS SOME OF THE OTHERS, WHETHER IT COMES FROM THE CITY OR THE THEATER OR ANYBODY ELSE, THAT IS WHAT THE COMMISSION'S JOB IS, IS TO EVALUATE THAT. AND I'D RATHER NOT RESTRICT FUTURE COMMISSIONS, BECAUSE WE COULD END UP WITH A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. AND WE MAY I LOOK AT IT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS IT IS A CORPORATION, I GET THAT, BUT IT'S STILL THEIR EVENTS THAT HAS THE CITY LOGO AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LOGO ON IT BOTH. AND BECAUSE IT MAKES A GOOD COLLABORATION AND I WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO. I AGREE WITH TIFFANY AND TIM ON A, ON A BASE BUSINESS LEVEL THAT THE CITY OUGHT TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, SOMETIMES THEY JUST DON'T. AND IT MAY BE THAT, WELL, OKAY, THIS IS AT THIS. I TRUST THE ARTS COMMISSION TO MAKE THAT EVALUATION WITHOUT MAKING A SPECIFIC POLICY, BECAUSE I FEEL THAT WE WOULD BE RESTRICTING FUTURE COMMISSIONS FROM BEING ABLE TO MAKE DISCRETIONARY DECISIONS. I. MAYBE IT JUST HAS TO DO WITH HOW FUNDS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT GIVES THE CITY ACCESS TO HOT FUNDS THAT THEY CAN'T GET THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE OTHER.

SO I COULD SEE MAYBE WE CAP SOMETHING COMING OUT OF HOT FUNDS IF THE CITY'S WHATEVER, IF THE CITY IS ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT QUALIFY FOR THAT, AS FAR AS THE OTHER FUNDING THAT WILL BE GETTING, I DON'T KNOW SO MUCH, BUT I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S TRUE. WE WILL BE YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR JOB TO SORT OF WEIGH THINGS OUT, BUT TO, YOU KNOW, ALSO DON'T WANT TO SET AN EXPECTATION FROM THE CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S THERE'S A POOL OF MONEY AND MAYBE SO TIFFANY, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT IS I THANKS FOR LEAVING. RIGHT AT THE BEST TIME.

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NOW, THIS IS JUST, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, WHAT I'VE NOTICED IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, I COULD BE TOTALLY OFF, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IS, YOU KNOW, OUR JOB IS TO ADD VIBRANCY TO THIS COMMUNITY, WHETHER THAT IS IN KNOWLEDGE, INFORMATION, ENGAGEMENT OR ENLARGING THE TERRITORY OF OUR ULTIMATE GOAL OF CREATING CULTURAL ARTS ENGAGEMENT TO ENRICH PEOPLE'S LIVES IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT MAY BE THROUGH DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS. SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE WANT TO LIMIT LIKE, OH, IT'S ONLY CULINARY ARTS, OR IT'S ONLY LIKE ART IS ALWAYS, OF COURSE, IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. RIGHT? AND IT'S ALSO PEOPLE EXPERIENCE IT DURING DIFFERENT THINGS. I JUST KIND OF THINK THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND REALLY LOOK AT THIS, BECAUSE SOON ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO US, ASKING US FOR MONEY, AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE EXPERTS ON OUR POLICY. I ASK YOU, LET ME ASK YOU THIS. THIS IS JUST FOR REFERENCE. SO LET'S SAY WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO A FUTURE ARTS COMMISSION. THREE COMMISSIONS FOR NOW. WE DON'T THINK YOU HAVE GOOD JUDGMENT TO DETERMINE APPLICATION. SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO RESTRICT THIS FOR YOU. THEY CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT. RIGHT. BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE LIKE I DON'T KNOW I JUST FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE FIRST. AND THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. IF IT'S NOT IN WRITING, THEN IT'S NOT. THEN IF IT'S NOT IN WRITING, THEN IT DOESN'T EXIST. BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN NO ONE'S CONSIDERING IT? AT LEAST WHEN THEY SEE IT, THEY'LL CONSIDER IT. WE JUST SAID THAT IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE A SPECIAL.

THERE CAN BE A SPECIAL MEETING IF IT'S A CERTAIN SITUATION. IT'S THE 100TH YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF DUNCANVILLE, AND WE WANT TO SAY, HEY, GUESS WHAT? WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING SPECIFIC AND DO ALL THE FLAGS AROUND TOWN. THE POLE FLAGS, YOU KNOW. SO LET ME LET ME ASK YOU THIS. SO BECAUSE ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO LOOK AT THIS, CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUNDING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. YEAH. THEY MAY SAY, GUESS WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT OUT. BUT THAT'S SO WE DID OUR PART. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. SO IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO LOOK AT. IS THERE LANGUAGE THAT WE COULD USE THAT WOULD THAT WOULD CONSIDER LIMITING FUNDS FOR CITY PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED? COULD IT BE AS SIMPLE AS THAT? BECAUSE THERE COULD BE CITY PROJECTS THAT AREN'T FUNDED, OR IT COULD BE, WHY IS IT OUR JOB TO FUND THOSE PROJECTS? WELL, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IF IT'S IF IT'S ALREADY FUNDED, THEN THEN THEN THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT FUTURE ARTS COMMISSION COULD SAY OR THIS COMMISSION COULD SAY. I JUST THINK THAT IF YOU SAY IT'S ALREADY FUNDED, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THAT, OKAY, WELL, THIS THIS MAY NOT BE FUNDED, BUT THEY HAVE. WE LIKE YOU SAID WE ARE WE ARE FUND. WE ARE NOT A BUDGET. SO THEREFORE THEY HAVE A BUDGET. AND IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT MEANS IT IS NOT IMPORTANT TO THEM. RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ROOM OR THEY'VE ALREADY COMMITTED THAT MONEY IN OTHER PLACES. THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. AND THEY GET A CHANGE THAT YEAR TO YEAR. I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME ABILITY TO AND I I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THE RIGHT THING, IT'S THE WRONG THING. BUT I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN WRITING. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT FOLKS WHO ARE NOT AT THIS TABLE. AND THAT'S I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. IT'S JUST ONE OPINION. BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S SERIOUS BUSINESS. AND I FEEL LIKE AFTER US, IF WE DON'T, IF WE LIKE THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T GET HERE TILL 2026. YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOU GUYS MAY REAPPLY. I HOPE THAT WE OPEN THESE SEATS UP TO OTHER PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S NOT MY BUSINESS. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS, IS WHY I'M IN THIS SEAT. I THINK IT'S VERY PERTINENT THAT WE PAY ATTENTION TO WHERE OUR MONEY IS GOING. LIKE TIM SAID, LIKE, WONDER IF WE TURN AROUND AND GET A GRANT, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S $500,000, AND NOW PARKS AND REC COMES TO US AND SAYS, HEY, WE WANT TO PUT NEW FLOWERS OUT HERE. CAN WE GET $200,000? THAT'S NOT FAIR TO ME. LIKE, SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. SO JUST ONE LAST THING. IS THAT WHAT WE HAVE NOW WITH THIS COMMISSION IS NOW THE CITY HAS A NEW OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO ARTS PROGRAMS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE. WE HAVE NOW. WE'RE WE'RE STARTING TO BUILD A NEW POOL OF MONEY THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE. POT FUNDS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE. OKAY. AND IN THE PAST. SO NOW WE HAVE THIS OTHER FUNDS WITH ALL THESE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT WILL BE BUILDING THIS MONEY. THIS IS NEW MONEY THAT'S NOW AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS NEVER AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY BEFORE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO LET'S DO THAT. LET'S DO THIS ARTS COMMISSION. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO TELL CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR? I'M GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY SAY IT. YES, SIR.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. YES, SIR. ONE, THE ONLY ONE WHERE CITY DEPARTMENTS IS UNDER IS UNDER SINGLE PROJECT SUPPORT GRANTS. ITEM TWO. AND THE FIRST TIME APPLICANT WOULD ONLY GET $3,000.

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YEAH, A LOT OF THESE DEPARTMENTS I DON'T THINK ARE GOING TO COME THAT IT MAY COME FROM PARKS AND REC OR LIBRARY OR. MAYBE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO. SO IS IT THE LANGUAGE SUFFICIENT FOR YOU? I'M FINE WITH IT. I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT THE LIBRARY IS NO LONGER IS TECHNICALLY ITS OWN PART OF A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION. THEY'D STILL BE ABLE TO COME TO YOU. OKAY, WAIT. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE LANGUAGE? I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS FINE THE WAY THAT IT IS BECAUSE IT GIVES THE DISCRETION AND I THINK IT LIMITS IT. IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT IT LIMITS IT TO 3000 FOR THE FIRST TIME AND NO MORE THAN TEN. SO, SARAH, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE LANGUAGE? I MEAN, I THINK OVERALL I'M FINE WITH IT, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY KNOW, LIKE HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS WE HAVE AND LIKE IF THERE ACTUALLY WOULD COME UP AND DO, DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW. WELL. AND SO TIFFANY'S JUST LOOKING. DO WE NEED TO ADD EXTRA PROTECTION.

YEAH. THAT'S I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH ADDING EXTRA PROTECTION BUT. AND SO THAT WOULD BE HOW WOULD YOU ADD THE EXTRA PROTECTION TIFFANY I JUST THINK IT'S AN ASTERISK. LIKE LIKE I FEEL IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANYTHING MAJOR, LIKE, YOU KNOW, TEN LINES. I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING IN THERE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING THE CITY. ASK BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WHAT THAT DOES IS IT ALSO GIVES THEM A RULE OF THUMB AS THEY'RE DECIDING NEXT YEAR, HEY, WHAT DO WE GO BY? AND IF SO, THIS WORKS FOR THEM AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR TENURE OR THEY EXPERIENCE SOMETHING AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? BUT WE REALLY LIKE THIS. THERE'S A SPECIAL MEETING THAT TAKES PLACE AND THEY GET TO VOTE ON THAT AND RECOMMEND SOMETHING TO CITY COUNCIL. RIGHT. VERSUS THAT SOMEONE CITY CAN JUST COME IN AND SAY, HEY, GUESS WHAT IS THIS? WE WANT TO DO THIS AND WE WANT $10,000 TO DO A MURAL ON THE CITY, ON THE CITY STREET.

RIGHT? LIKE, I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. LIKE I THINK IT'S I'M VERY ADAMANT ABOUT IT JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT CAN BE A LINE. NO, I APPRECIATE IT. AND WHAT DO YOU LIKE? IS THIS LANGUAGE SUFFICIENT OR DO YOU OR DO YOU WANT TO ADD MORE? I LIKE FLEXIBILITY AND WHAT IF A CITY DEPARTMENT SAID, WE WANT TO DO A PUBLIC SCULPTURE IN THE PARK, SAY, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT IT MIGHT FALL CLEARLY IN OUR PURVIEW TO DO THAT VERSUS A PROJECT OR SOMETHING. THAT'S THEIR THEIR TURF. YOU KNOW, IT. THERE MAY BE SOME INTERSECTIONS. SO I'M PRETTY DETACHED ABOUT IT.

I'M VERY GOOD ABOUT COLLABORATING. LIKE I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. LIKE, BUT I ALSO THINK THERE ARE ALSO THINGS THAT THE ARTS COMMISSION CAN SUGGEST, LIKE WHETHER IT'S SCULPTURES OR SOMETHING, OR THAT THEY CAME TO US AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE WANT TO DO A I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE. THERE'S A CITY OF DALLAS GOLF COURSE, CEDAR CREST GOLF COURSE. OKAY. FOR OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, THEY'RE NOT THEY'VE HAD A NONPROFIT THAT'S WORKED THERE. WHEN YOU GO THERE NOW, THERE IS A STATUE OF CHARLIE SIFFORD. THERE'S ANOTHER STATUE OF THE PGA WINNER FROM WHATEVER IT WAS, RIGHT, 1967 OR WHATEVER. RIGHT. BUT THE POINT ABOUT IT IS, IS THERE'S ALL KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS WHEN YOU WALK IN. THEY HAVE I MEAN, IT'S BEAUTIFUL. AND, YOU KNOW, MY SON GOT OUT THERE A LONG TIME. THAT NONPROFIT PAID FOR THEM IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT GOLF COURSE. THE CITY OF DALLAS DID NOT. IT WAS A GIFT TO THEM FROM THERE. RIGHT. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN HAVE GIFTS THAT WE GIVE OR WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO COLLABORATE ON THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO INVEST $20,000 BECAUSE THIS SCULPTURE IS COSTING 40,000, I GET THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING FOR CERTAIN THINGS. I THINK THAT IS A SPECIALIZED SITUATION WHICH WHICH CAN BE DISCUSSED, AND THAT'S A CONTINGENCY. BUT I THINK JUST FOR EVERYDAY LIFE, I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD TO BE SUPER CLEAR BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE CLEAR COMMUNICATION, YOU ELIMINATE A LOT OF RHETORIC THAT DOESN'T NEED TO. TIM. SO, TIM, WHAT IS THE LANGUAGE SUFFICIENT OR DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS? I'M I'M WHATEVER. WE'LL PROTECT THE MONEY A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO IF

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WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS WHY IT'S IN OUR HANDS. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? BECAUSE EITHER WAY, WE'RE NOT THE FINAL. SO WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH, AND THIS IS JUST WHERE I NEED HELP, IS TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE THE LANGUAGE IN HERE PUTS THOSE. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO USE, USE IT.

THAT'S. SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR VISUAL OF WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING. THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT'S WHAT. THAT'S WHAT YOU ASKED WITH THE LANGUAGE IS I DON'T KNOW WHERE. I, I JUST NEED HELP BECAUSE I JUST DON'T SEE IT. RIGHT. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S FINE. AND JUST AS CLEAR AS YOU DON'T, I DO. SO I JUST FEEL LIKE I, I YOU'VE ASKED ME WHAT IS THE LANGUAGE? I GAVE YOU AN ASTERISK. I GAVE YOU A SENTENCE. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DO IT, GREAT. IF YOU DON'T MIND.

BUT I BROUGHT IT UP. I TOLD YOU HOW I FELT. NO, NO, NO, I'M NOT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT. DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S NOT THERE TO BE SEEN. WHAT I'M ASKING IS, WHERE IN THIS DOES THAT ASTERISK NEED TO BE? BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I DON'T SEE. BECAUSE THE NUMBER TWO, IT SAYS PURPOSE. RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE THAT IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT THE CITY CAN GET MONEY FROM US. IS THAT CORRECT? PRETTY MUCH UNDER NUMBER TWO, RIGHT. YEAH. BUT WHERE YOU HAVE THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT ELIGIBLE. SO BASICALLY ADDITIONALS ARE UNDER ELIGIBILITY AND RESTRICTIONS. RIGHT? SO EVEN UNDER ELIGIBILITY AND RESTRICTIONS IT COULD SAY CITY DEPARTMENTAL CAP. RIGHT. SO IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE CITY AS

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SO ALEX, SINCE YOU'VE HAD YOUR FACE IN THE NUMBERS. SO I'M GOING TO USE I WORK IN ANALOGIES. LET'S SAY THAT THAT DEVIN CAME AND SHE WANTED THE MAC. SHE COULD COME THE FIRST TIME WAS ASKED FOR $3,000. RIGHT. IS THAT WHAT THIS HOW THIS POLICY READS SO THE MOST SO IN. AND SO THEN THEREAFTER SHE WOULD COME TO YOU REPRESENTING EVENT PLANNING. SHE WOULD SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. THE APPLICATION WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETE. IT WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE WHAT THE EXPENSES ARE AND WHAT THE INTENDED USE IS. AND YOU WOULD ALL LOOK AT IT AND EVALUATE IT.

AND IF YOU DETERMINE TO RECOMMEND IT, IT WOULD BE CAPPED AT $3,000. AND THEN SO COULD SHE COME BACK. SHE COULD NOT COME BACK UNTIL THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. OKAY. SHE IS SHE IS PREVENTED.

SHE COULD GET IS $10,000 THE SECOND YEAR. RIGHT. AND SHE CAN ONLY ASK FOR THAT ONCE. SO THEN WHAT HAPPENS THE THIRD YEAR? IT GOES BACK TO THIS RETURNING APPLICANTS, BECAUSE EVEN THE SECOND YEAR SHE CAN ASK FOR $10,000. AND IF WE SAID THAT OUR BUDGET WAS THE SAME AS IT IS THIS YEAR, THAT'S IT SAYS RETURNING APPLICANTS. IT DOESN'T SAY IT. IT GROWS EACH YEAR. IT JUST SAYS 3,001ST YEAR, 10,000 RETURN THEREAFTER. BUT BUT EACH COMMISSION CAN RECOMMEND THE AMOUNT. IT DOESN'T MEAN SHE'S GUARANTEED 10,000. IT MEANS THE FUTURE COMMISSION IS GOING TO DETERMINE. BUT EVEN IF WE ONLY SAY SHE CAME IN THE SECOND YEAR, SHE GOT $10,000 AND SHE'S LIKE, HEY, I WANT TEN GRAND. AND EVERYBODY'S LIKE, OH, THIS IS AWESOME. WE WANT TO DO THE BEER FEST, YOU KNOW, SAY ROCK, RIGHT? SO LET'S SAY JUST THAT HAPPENED. IF THAT WAS RIGHT NOW, THAT WOULD BE 10% OF OUR BUDGET JUST FOR THAT ONE PROJECT. BUT THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT IT IS A FUTURE COMMISSION SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION ON THEIR OWN. SO IF IT'S CAPPED AT 10,000, THEY MAY DECIDE, HERE'S YOUR 15. THEY CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE ON THEIR OWN. BUT IT'S OUR DECISION TO MAKE. MAKE IT COUNT NOW. LIKE THERE. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT FUTURE COMMISSIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO OPERATE HOW THEY WANT TO OPERATE. SO. SO RATHER THAN $10,000 FOR RETURNING APPLICANTS, YOU WANT TO HAVE A THIRD THAT SAYS, BUT CITY CAN ONLY COME BACK FOR 2500. SO THE FIRST YEAR THEY GET 3000. AND THEN WHEN THEY RETURN, THEY CAN ONLY ASK FOR 2500 EACH TIME. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA WITHOUT AN ASTERISK, JUST A FUNDING LIMIT. UP TO 2500 CITY DEPARTMENTS, 3,001ST TIME OTHER APPLICANTS, 10,000 RETURNING OTHER APPLICANTS. SO IT'S JUST CLEAR. YEAH, IT'S NO BIG DEAL. IT'S NOT LIKE I DON'T SEE IT AS A BIG DEAL. I THINK WE'RE JUST ADDING JUST A LITTLE PART THAT SAYS, OH, BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE A CITY DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE TO YOU. BUT IT IS ALSO CAPPED THAT WAY. THEY KNOW OFF THE TOP IS HEY, GUESS WHAT. WE CAN ALSO APPLY FOR GRANT OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER SINGLE PROJECT SUPPORT GRANT FROM THE THEY HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE TO DEPARTMENTS. AND GUESS WHAT. LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE IF THEY HAVE SOME AVAILABLE FOR US. WELL THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO HAVE $2,500 AVAILABLE. I THINK THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL MONEY ONTO WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY BUDGETED. THEY HAVE BUDGETS. YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH DEVIN, THEY HAD JUST FOR THE SPECIAL EVENTS. THAT WAS A $489,000 BUDGET. SO I JUST FEEL LIKE WE NEED SOMETHING, JUST THAT LITTLE SPACE. I JUST THINK JUST WHAT ANN SAID IS PERFECT. I SECOND WHAT SHE SAID. I LIKE I LIKE IT TOO. THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. YEAH, BUT CHANGING

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YEAH. SO I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE BUDGETS, BUT ALSO SOMETIMES YOU GOT SHORTFALLS AND SOMETIMES EVEN CITY NEEDS A LITTLE HELP, LIKE GETTING ALONG, YOU KNOW, GETTING THEIR LOANS.

AND I'M ALL ABOUT THAT. IT'S NOT THAT I'M NOT ABOUT CITY EVENTS. I LOVE CITY EVENTS. YOU SEE ME IN EVERY ONE. BUT I'M JUST SIMPLY SAYING IS, IS THAT I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EVER HAD ARTS COMMISSION. I THINK THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY WHAT THEIR IDEAS ARE, OR THE NEXT PERSON'S IDEAS ARE THAT IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS THAN WE ARE. AND I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE NOT ONLY FUND THEIR VISION, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH THE THINGS THAT WE CAN HAVE IN THIS AREA. YOU KNOW, THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IS IMPORTANT, LIKE THE CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT. AND I THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING BIG ONE DAY. SO, AMY, ANGELA, I LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS BECAUSE IT GIVES EVERYBODY DISCRETION. I THINK WE HAVE THE SAME DISCRETION TO DO THAT, AND I LIKE IT THE WAY THAT CAROLYN'S WRITTEN. I LIKE IT THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN. AND MY THING IS THE CITY CAN APPLY. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE NECESSARILY ARE GOING TO APPROVE IT. AND IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THAT AMOUNT. I MEAN, WE HAVE THAT DISCRETION AND THEY CAN APPEAL, BUT I MEAN, I JUST DON'T SEE FOR ME. ALL THE BACK AND FORTH, $500 IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT BIG OF A DEAL. IT'S NOT GOING TO BREAK ANYBODY. SO MY FEELING ON IT IS THAT I DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT FUTURE ARTS COMMISSION, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DECIDING THIS. THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION IS AND BUT RIGHT NOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE ARTS COMMISSION WANTS TO CHANGE IT TO ADD THAT EXTRA ADD EXTRA BULLET. SO THE MOTION. IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVED THAT IT STARTS WITH OF 2500 CITY DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN UP TO 3000 OTHER FIRST TIME APPLICANTS OR SOMETHING, MAYBE OTHER 10,000 OTHER. SO WOULD YOU STATE YOUR MOTION AGAIN? REPEAT THE MOTION.

YEAH. I'M SORRY. WE KIND OF NEED THE WORDING NAILED. YEAH. AND YEAH THE WORD AGAIN SHE'S THE ENGLISH YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT AN UP TO 2500, UP TO 2500 CITY DEPARTMENTS. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE FIRST TIME REPEATING, YEAH, IF YOU MAKE A MOTION, THAT'S YOUR JOB. AND IF YOU WANT TO JUST GO BY A CONSENSUS, I CAN BRING THIS BACK. OKAY. IT SEEMS LIKE THE MAJORITY IS ON ADDING THE 25, BUT I WANT TO SEE WHAT AN SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THIS RIGHT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE FORGET WHAT WE SAY. WELL, I THINK IT'S JUST OTHER OTHER FIRST TIME. WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT IS THAT IT IT JUST SETS THE CITY DEPARTMENTS ASIDE AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT DIFFERENT. BUT SEE, I DON'T LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. I LOOK AT IT AS THE NEXT COMMISSIONER. I LOOK AT THE NEXT COMMISSION CAN MAKE ITS OWN DECISIONS. WHAT ARE WE HERE? WE'RE HERE FOR THAT. WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE GIVING THEM A PLACE TO MAKE A CHOICE. RIGHT. SO I FEEL LIKE THE DECISIONS WE MAKE NOW IS WE'RE SETTING THE TONE OF, LIKE, THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE DECISIONS. THIS IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT. LIKE, AND IF WE DON'T ADDRESS IT, THAT'S FINE. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S LIKE, DO OR DIE. I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT DOESN'T HURT ANYTHING BY ADDING THAT ONE LINE. I MEAN, I THINK THESE ARE I THINK THESE ARE ALL GOOD ARGUMENTS. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD. I THINK ALLISON DID A WONDERFUL JOB BRINGING ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE GO BACK AND FORTH WITH OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND WE'RE FINALLY, YOU KNOW, GETTING CLOSE TO AN FINISHED PRODUCT. OKAY. SO IF YOU WILL STATE FOR THE RECORD YOUR MOTION AND THEN WE'LL NEED A SECOND, I MOVE THAT THE FUNDING LIMIT STARTS WITH BULLET UP TO 2500 PARENTHESES. CITY DEPARTMENTS PARENTHESES. BULLET UP TO 3000 K. OTHER FIRST TIME APPLICANTS AND BULLET UP TO 10,000 OTHER RETURNING APPLICANTS. IS THERE A SECOND?

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TIM. BE A MAN. LET IT BE A. YEAH. SO LET'S LET'S. YEAH. WELL THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. SO THERE'S.

YEAH, I'M JUST BRINGING UP SOMETHING. OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM, NUMBER THREE PUBLIC ARTS GRANTS.

I JUST NEED A CLARIFICATION. I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND. UNDER INELIGIBLE USES, IT SAYS LANDSCAPING. AND THEN IT SAYS PERFORMING LITERARY ARTS UNLESS VISUALLY EXPRESSED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. CLARIFICATION. WHO PUT THAT NOTE IN THERE? DO YOU ANYBODY RECALL? WHERE ARE WE AT? PUBLIC ART NUMBER THREE. ITEM NUMBER THREE.

PUBLIC ART SECTION THREE. AND THEN UNDER INELIGIBLE. INELIGIBLE. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. I THINK IT MEANS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? READING A BOOK LIKE AUTHORS READING, PERFORMING, READING HOW YOU'LL DO LIKE A AUTHORS SO THAT WOULDN'T QUALIFY. IT WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR ORPHANS. IS THIS FOR HOT FUNDS? SO FOR EXAMPLE, CULINARY DOESN'T QUALIFY. SO UNTIL YOU HAVE A GROUP WE CAN QUALIFY FOR THESE OTHER BRANCHES. I MEAN OUTSIDE OF RIGHT PERMANENT BECAUSE WELL I MEAN I PUT IT IN AS A GENERAL THING AT THIS POINT. OKAY. WELL WOULD IT CONTRAST IS THE SINGLE ARTS PROJECT LIKE A PERFORMANCE? IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF THING.

IT'S A PERMANENT LIKE A SCULPTURAL PIECE OR, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT IT'S CONTRASTING. SO ONE, TWO AND THREE ARE ALL HAPPENS. WELL I MEAN AT THIS POINT YOU HAVE $400 FOR THE OPTION. BUT HERE'S THE OTHER PART WHICH, WHICH HERE'S THE OTHER PART. THAT'S KIND OF KEY TO A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION YOU HAVE. YOU DON'T CREATE A BUDGET. IT'S ALL THAT FALLS UNDER THIS.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THINGS LIKE, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THESE OTHER THINGS, THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THIS, YOU CAN BUDGET FOR YOU CAN BUDGET FOR. THERE WERE A COUPLE EXAMPLES THAT YOU GAVE, BUT HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH OF JUNETEENTH. YEAH. OR YOU CAN APPLY FOR NOW.

BUT AT THIS POINT THERE'S NOTHING BUDGETED THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR. SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU MAY SAY. THIS IS HOW MUCH WE WANT TO WE WANT TO BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT, FOR THE GRANTS PROGRAM SO THAT YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THIS, BUT YOU KNOW THAT YOU WANT 3% TO HOLD OVER.

YOU KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO DO THESE OTHER YOU WANT TO HAVE THINGS FOR THESE OTHER PROJECTS, OR YOU CAN DECIDE ALL OF IT GOES INTO THE GRANT LINE, AS THAT'S THE EXPENSE SATISFYING GRANTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 3%. AND EVEN THE THINGS YOU WANT TO DO HAVE TO QUALIFY BY THIS POLICY AND GUIDELINE. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS LIKE AN EXAMPLE. SO IF WE SET ASIDE A BUDGET AND SAY, HEY, LISTEN, EVERY YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BUDGET AS OF RIGHT NOW, THIS YEAR ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO BUDGET $5,000 FOR WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. RIGHT. AND I GET THAT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS WHATEVER WE'RE RECOMMENDING, LIKE IF SARAH WANTS TO SAY THAT, GUESS WHAT? THIS IS LIKE, WHAT IS THIS? THIS IS FOR JUNETEENTH. SO THE RECOMMENDATION SO THIS SO FROM THE CITY MANAGER. IT WOULD IT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE ARTS COMMISSION WOULD RECOMMEND FOR GRANTS, $130,000 FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO WITHIN THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR, FOR GRANTS, BECAUSE IF THERE'S OTHER MONEY TO BE SET ASIDE. BUT WHAT WE DO IS WE JUST MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON EXPECTED EXPENSES. SO IF AS A COMMISSION, WE DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO DO X NUMBER FOR THIS X NUMBER FOR THIS X NUMBER OF THIS, THEN WE WOULD ADD ALL TOGETHER. AND THEN WE WOULD SAY WE'D SAY FOR ARTS COMMISSION PROGRAMING FOR THE YEAR WE WANT $25,000. AND THEN THAT WAY BECAUSE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS I'M WONDERING LIKE LIKE FOR OUR STUFF NOW, WHAT WHAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET, WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET AT ALL. SO WE HAVE A LINE ITEM.

SO, SO BASICALLY IF THE ARTS COMMISSION WANTS TO USE A FULL 15% ON GRANTS, THEN WE WOULD SAY THE FULL 15% FOR, FOR GRANTS. OR IF WE DECIDE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, HOW STRATEGIC WE WANT TO BE ABOUT IT, BUT WE DON'T NECESSARILY MAKE THE BUDGET BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE SETTING UP THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION. AND IF THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION DOESN'T WANT JUNETEENTH OR HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, THEY WON'T. WHEN TALKING

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SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EQUITABILITY, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION. IF YOU DON'T THINK THE ARTS COMMISSION SHOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR MONEY, THE ARTS FUND DIDN'T. BUT I'M ASKING, HOW DO WE APPLY? LIKE WHAT IS ARTS? WELL, THERE'S AN APPLICATION.

THE APPLICATION THAT'S IN THERE. IF WE COULD JUST ADD A BULLET POINT UNDER THIS, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ABOUT THE AMOUNT OR ANYTHING, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COULD ADD TO THEIR BUDGET IS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT YOU WOULD DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENT FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THAT IS THIS IS REQUESTING MONEY FROM THE ACTUAL BUDGET, CITY BUDGET. SO THIS IS A POLICY HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS ON THE FUNDING. SO THIS IS A GENERAL HOW WHAT YOUR FUNDING AND POSSIBLE FUNDING IS. AT THIS POINT, MONEY'S GOING IN FROM THE HOT FUND AND BEING TRANSFERRED OVER AS IT COMES IN. YOU HAVE APPROXIMATELY $400 THAT CAME IN FROM A FUNDRAISER. SO THAT IS WHAT IS COVERED. IF YOU WANT TO ASK THAT. THE CITY.

TRANSFER $10,000, I WOULD ATTEND THE MEETING ON MONDAY AND ASK THAT DURING THE DURING THE TOWN HALL. SO IT'S NOT SO IT'S NOT A POLICY QUESTION. YOU'RE ASKING A BUDGET QUESTION I GUESS, BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD BECAUSE THEN BY ASKING THE BUDGET QUESTION AND GETTING THAT AS PART OF THE BUDGET DISCUSSION, THAT CITY, BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS CITY COUNCIL'S CITY MANAGER PRESENTS THAT TO THEM AT THAT POINT. IF THAT WINDS UP HAPPENING, IT WOULD GET ROLLED INTO THIS, INTO THE POLICY IN THE NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER OPTION FOR FUNDING OR FUNDING SOURCES. BUT I WOULD NOT. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND USING THIS AS THE GATEWAY TO GETTING THAT $10,000, BECAUSE THIS MAY FOLLOW THE BUDGET DECISIONS. I WOULD

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COOL. THANKS, AMY. YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK PROBABLY JUST NEED TO BE CLARIFIED UNDER THE INELIGIBILITY AND THE FUNDING RESTRICTIONS ON THE NOT ELIGIBL, VERY LAST BULLET POINT, APPLICANTS WHO CONTACT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR COMMISSION MEMBERS DURING THE APPLICATION AND REVIEW PERIOD. I THINK YOU NEED TO ADD THE WORD CONTACT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR COMMISSION MEMBERS ABOUT THE APPLICATION. JUST WHERE ARE YOU? THE. THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE ON THAT PAGE NUMBER. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND CONFERRED, BUT IN A CITY LIKE THIS WHERE WE'RE FRIENDS WITH THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WE CONTACT THEM, HEY, ARE YOU COMING? THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, DON'T YOU, CONSIDERING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS INFERRED, BUT EVEN THE ONE THAT WANTING SPECIFICS ON THE OTHER, I WANT SPECIFICS ON THIS BECAUSE I'M FRIENDS WITH HALF THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR. SO APPLICANTS WHO CONTACT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR COMMISSION ABOUT THEIR APPLICATION, IT DOESN'T SAY JUST SAYS WHO CONTACT THE OFFICIALS.

IF I WERE TO CALL GREG CONTRERAS AND SAY, HEY, YOU AND KAREN WANT TO MEET ME FOR DINNER, THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION UNDER ITS CURRENT LANGUAGE. SO. SO HOW DO YOU WANT? HOW DO YOU WANT? I WANT THE WORDS TO CONTACT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR COMMISSION MEMBERS ABOUT THE APPLICATION.

OH, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE SAYING. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS THE CONTACT HAS TO BE ABOUT THE APPLICATION FOR IT TO BE INELIGIBLE, NOT JUST RIGHT NOW. IT'S JUST SAYING CONTACT. OKAY.

IT'S PROBLEMATIC. AFTER REVIEW PERIOD, YOU PUT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR COMMISSION MEMBERS DURING THE APPLICATION REVIEW PERIOD ABOUT THEIR APPLICATION. SO WHAT WAS WHAT WAS THE LANGUAGE YOU USED? AGAIN, APPLICANTS WHO CONTACT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR COMMISSION MEMBERS ABOUT THEIR APPLICATION DURING THE APPLICATION REVIEW PERIOD. OKAY. DID YOU GET THAT? IS THAT IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY. YEAH. YEAH. YES THAT'S GOOD CHAIR. OTHER THINGS. WOULD YOU BE AS APPLICANTS WHO CONTACT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR COMMISSION MEMBERS REGARDING REGARDING THE APPLICATION. AND APPLICATION DURING THE DURING AN ACTIVE GRANT CYCLE. DURING. YEAH, I MEAN, MY DEAL. I WANT THE CONTACT TO BE LIMITED. I WANT IT TO BE SPECIFIED THAT THE CONTACT IS ABOUT THE APPLICATION AND ITS STATUS, NOT, HEY, I JUST CONTACTED THEM. CAN YOU GO TO DINNER? BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, IF I SAY YOU WANT TO GO HAVE A BITE, I'M IN VIOLATION. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. SO APPLICANTS WHO CONTACT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR COMMISSION MEMBERS REGARDING AN APPLICATION DURING THE GRANT CYCLE. YEAH, BECAUSE THE GRANT CYCLE IS WELL, SHE WANTS TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE APPLICATION. YEAH, BUT BUT I TRY TO MAKE IT READ. WELL, YEAH.

BECAUSE THE APPLICANT APPLICATION DURING THE APPLICATION, IT'S JUST THAT'S WHAT IT IS. BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL FOR THE GRANT CYCLE. YOU GOT APPLICANTS IN THERE. SO I MEAN, TO ME I MEAN BECAUSE WE'RE JUST BEING SPECIFIC. AND SO LIKE I MEAN WE'RE ALL GOING TO MEET WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THIS. SO WOULD IT BE DEEMED IF SOMEONE WAS MEETING WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE WHY THEY HAD AN APPLICATION WITH RIGHT, JEREMY COOTS SUDDENLY YOU'RE INELIGIBLE BECAUSE YOU CONTACTED THEM A CITY COUNCILMAN, I MEAN, HE COMES AND TUNES THE PIANO FOR THE PLACE. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS NOT BE. IS THERE A CONSENSUS ON THAT? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. GOOD IDEA. WOULD YOU READ WHAT YOU WROTE FOR THE RECORD, APPLICANTS WHO CONTACT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR COMMISSION MEMBERS REGARDING AN APPLICATION DURING THE GRANT CYCLE, DOES IT IS THE LANGUAGE SPECIFIC ABOUT THE APPLICATION REGARDING THE APPLICATION? OKAY, OKAY. SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I JUST THINK IT NEEDED TO BE VERY SPECIFIC. THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION. AND IT MAY BE I JUST PUT AN BECAUSE MAYBE SOMEBODY WANTS TO TALK TO YOU, A COUNCIL MEMBER, ABOUT SOMEBODY ELSE'S APPLICATION. SO TALKING ABOUT AN APPLICATION, WHETHER IT'S YOUR OWN OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT JUST JUST ME, BUT ANYBODY ELSE. YOU KNOW, IF TIFFANY, HER NONPROFIT, WANTS TO APPLY, SHE DOESN'T GET IN TROUBLE BECAUSE SHE'S SEEN

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RIGHT. AND THEY CAN DECIDE WHEN THEY WANT TO APPLY FOR THEIR ANNUAL GRANT. SO MAYBE THEY DON'T GO INTO THE FIRST YEAR. FISCAL YEAR MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN ANOTHER PERSON'S FISCAL YEAR, BUT THEY WANT TO COVER THEIR ANNUAL FISCAL YEAR. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. I JUST I THINK IT WASN'T CLEAR THAT WITH THE QUARTERLY THINGS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE APPLYING FOR A QUARTERLY GRANT. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S HOW I READ IT TOO. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S HOW I READ IT. AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT PAYOUTS HAPPENING QUARTERLY AND THAT'S HOW HERS ARE DONE ANYWAY. SO AND THE REALITY IS SO WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE AN INDIVIDUAL GRANTS. BUT SHE SHE SHE HAS LOOKING AT INSTITUTIONALLY. AND IF WE DO OUR JOB WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE PERMANENT ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT WILL BE LOOKING AT AN ANNUAL ASK VERSUS A QUARTERLY ASK. SO WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CHANGE IT TO ARTS PROGRAMING GRANTS? I THINK IT'S ABOUT CAN CAN SHE APPLY AND THEN GET QUARTERLY DISBURSEMENTS RATHER THAN JUST GETTING DISBURSEMENTS AT ONE YEAR? IS THAT SOMETHING FOR YOU OR IS THAT SOMETHING FOR FISCAL SERVICES? I KEEP HEARING THAT THE DOOR LOCKED. SO I MEAN, ULTIMATELY MR. JACKSON IS GOING TO BE ON TOP OF THIS BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO BE. BUT SO WHAT SHE'S ASKING IS IF SHE APPLIES FOR Q1 AND BUT SHE APPLIES IS THAT IS THE APPLICATION GOING TO SECURE FUNDING FOR THE OTHER FOR THE REMAINING THREE QUARTERS? IF I DO, IF THE GRANT REQUEST IS FOR AN ANNUAL. WELL, I THINK MAYBE THERE COULD BE A STATEMENT THERE THAT SAYS ANNUAL GRANT REQUEST. I CAN'T COMMIT TO THAT TONIGHT BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR. HOW IT'S PAID OUT, IF YOU'RE ASKING TO APPLY ONCE, GET FOUR PAYMENTS, HAVE THAT ONE GRANT BROKEN INTO FOUR, I CAN'T. THAT IS THE WAY THAT IT HAS BEEN DONE FOR, I THINK FOR ALL OF TIME. MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S IN THE APPLICATION FORM ITSELF WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN TO APPLY FOR A YEAR LONG PROGRAM, THEY GET A CERTAIN APPLICATION FORM FOR THAT. IF SOMEONE'S DOING A ONE OFF EVENT, THEY GET A DIFFERENT APPLICATION FORM FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE GRANT THING, LIKE EVEN ON THE WEBSITE, LIKE HOW YOU SAY THERE'S GOING TO BE A FILLABLE FORM, IT CAN BE ANNUAL OR QUARTERLY GRANT, AND THEN THE APPLICATION COULD

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THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. WE DON'T USE SO MUCH A QUARTER. WE USE WE PAY FOR ALL OUR ROYALTIES AND ALL OF OUR PERFORMANCE RIGHTS AND, AND ALL OF THAT THAT COMES UP FRONT. OUR HEAVIEST MONTHS ARE IN JUNE THROUGH SEPTEMBER EVERY YEAR. THAT'S OUR THAT'S WE WRITE THE MOST, WE SEND THE MOST MONEY TO EVERYBODY. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ANNUAL THING. SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF THE APPLICATION IS FINE, THE APPLICATION ENABLES SOMEONE TO ASK FOR IT SAYS AN EVENT OR, YOU KNOW, AN ONGOING PROGRAM. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE APPLICATION. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU COULD DO IF I WANTED TO APPLY IN SEPTEMBER 1ST THROUGH 30, COULD THE THEATER MAKE AN APPLICATION DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, DURING THE GRANT OPENING PERIOD? THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE. OR DO I HAVE TO REAPPLY EVERY QUARTER, OR CAN IT BE ONE ONE GRANT REQUEST THAT SERVES FOR THAT WHOLE FISCAL YEAR WITH ONE REQUEST? I DON'T CARE HOW YOU DISPERSE IT. WOULD THAT BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS? WHAT WAS THE LAST PART YOU SAID? I'M SORRY. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW IT'S DISPERSED, WHETHER IT'S DISPERSED QUARTERLY OR SINGLE CHECK. SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF YOU APPLY IN SEPTEMBER. NOVEMBER, YOU WOULD RECEIVE THE PAYMENT THE WAY THAT IT'S SET NOW, THAT IS THE WAY IT WORKS. NOW THE SO BASICALLY AFTER COUNCIL APPROVES IT THEN THAT WOULD GO THROUGH TO FISCAL SERVICES. AND WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AND SIGNING THE RESOLUTION YOUR PAYMENT WOULD THAT 20 LET'S SAY YOU WENT FOR THE FULL AMOUNT RIGHT. RIGHT. I MEAN $20,000 WOULD BE DISPERSED RIGHT NOW. THAT $20,000 WOULD THEN BE UP TO YOU TO MAKE. LAST YEAR, I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION. AND YES. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT HAS ALWAYS WORKED, WITH ONE EXCEPTION. AND THAT WOULD BE THIS THIS YEAR, BECAUSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HANDLES IN AN AWKWARD MANNER AND IT WAS HANDLED DIFFERENTLY. SO FOR THE PREVIOUS 30 YEARS IT HAS BEEN HANDLED THAT WAY. AND IF YOU WANTED A QUARTERLY DISBURSEMENT PROCESS, I WOULD JUST HAVE TO SEE IF THAT COULD BE DONE, BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER BECAUSE, SAY, SOMEBODY ONE SOMEBODY SAID I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING, I WANT TO GET IT DISPERSED QUARTERLY.

THE THING IS, IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEND AN INVOICE QUARTERLY. SO I MESSED THAT UP.

SHE JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE SHE GETS IT. SO RIGHT HERE THE CAP IS 20 20,000. AND IT SAYS IT JUST GIVES FULL AMOUNT. RIGHT. BUT THEN WHEN I GOT BACK HERE TO THIS THIS APPLICATION PROCEDURES AND YOU'RE RIGHT IT DOES SAY ALL OF THAT CORRECTLY AT THE FRONT. THEN YOU GET BACK HERE TO THE APPLICATION PROCEDURES AND GRANT CYCLE. THAT'S WHERE I FELT LIKE IT WAS NOT AS CLEAR FOR ANNUAL APPLICANTS. I THINK THAT'S JUST BUT I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE FRONT. IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE FRONT. BUT I UNDERSTAND IF YOU WANT SOME MORE. BUT I THINK LIKE THAT COULD JUST BE SOMETHING ON THE APPLICATION THAT SAYS, LIKE ONCE HE GETS WITH FISCAL SERVICES, HE CAN KNOW EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID AT THE BOTTOM OF THE APPLICATION. LIKE, YOU KNOW, ANNUAL DISBURSEMENTS ARE PROVIDED IN ONE PAYMENT, LIKE, OR WHATEVER IT IS LIKE, BECAUSE, I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK? SO THE MAX IS 20 20,000. SO IN NOVEMBER YOU GET OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU WOULD GET BECAUSE HE'S BASICALLY SAYING, HEY, IF YOU APPLY TO THE $20,000 FOR A GRANT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING SOMETHING FOR ALL THE PUPPY LOVERS IN ART, RIGHT? BUT WHAT I WAS ASKING IS WHERE IT SAYS APPLICATION DEADLINE WOULD THE ENTITY, WHETHER IT'S THE THEATER OR THE MUSEUM OR SOMEBODY ELSE, WOULD WE HAVE TO REAPPLY EVERY QUARTER BECAUSE OF THE APPLICATION DEADLINE? OH, WELL, YOU DIDN'T REAPPLY DURING THAT QUARTER, SO YOU DON'T. BUT IT SAYS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PAID UP FRONT UP HERE. IT DOES SAY IT IT CONTRADICTS ITSELF IS WHAT I'M SAYING. WHERE IS WHERE ARE YOU SEEING THAT SHE'S BACK HERE ON THIS. AT THE FRONT IT SAYS TO SUPPORT NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION PRESENTING A FULL SEASON OF ARTS PROGRAMING, WHICH WOULD BE US OR THE OLD AND NEAR MUSEUM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'LL MAKE SENSE. THAT'S ALL GOOD.

THAT'S PERFECT. BUT THEN YOU GET BACK HERE TO THE DISBURSEMENT SCHEDULE AND THE GRANT CYCLE SCHEDULE, THE APPLICATION PERIODS. THERE'S AN APPLICATION PERIOD FOR EACH QUARTER. SO CAN AN ANNUAL APPLICANT JUST APPLY ONCE, OR DO THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT A NEW APPLICATION EVERY QUARTER IN ORDER TO GET FUNDING. THAT'S WHAT AN ANNUAL APPLICATION WOULD BE FOR AN

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BUT WOULDN'T IT BE THAT WOULD BE YOUR ANNUAL REGARDLESS OF WHEN YOU'RE BECAUSE YOU WOULD APPLY, NOT APPLY LIKE YOUR BUSINESS WOULD APPLY WHENEVER YOUR FISCAL YEAR STARTED, BEFORE YOUR ANNUAL RIGHT FOR YOUR ANNUAL ASK LIKE YOU RIGHT? IS THAT HOW YOU WOULD DO IT? IS THAT HOW YOU'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST? I DON'T KNOW THE, THE INTENTION IS THAT THERE ARE FOUR GRANT CYCLES YOU CAN APPLY AND THAT I'M FINE WITH WHAT IT WAS THE APPLICATION DEADLINE. IT WAS THE DEADLINE WORDING THAT CONCERNED ME, THAT IF THAT SOMEONE WOULD SAY, WELL, YOU DIDN'T APPLY AGAIN DURING THIS QUARTER. AND IT'S SORT OF LIKE TIFFANY WAS WANTING SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ABOUT LIMITING SITTING THINGS BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T WORRIED ABOUT WHAT FUTURE COMMISSIONS OR OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT SAY OR WHAT THEY MIGHT THE LOOPHOLES. WHAT I DIDN'T WANT WAS A LOOPHOLE. I DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE. SO QUARTER. QUARTER APPLICATION DEADLINE. IT DOESN'T MATTER. I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS. I KNOW I DEFINITELY IT COMPLETELY I DON'T CARE CYCLE APPLICATION DEADLINE IT BECAUSE I GET WHAT SHE'S SAYING THOUGH LIKE BECAUSE DIFFERENT COMPANIES HAVE DIFFERENT FISCAL YEAR STARTS AND SHE'S JUST SAYING LIKE LISTEN, IF I APPLY FOR THIS GRANT THIS ONE TIME, DOES THIS COVER MY WHOLE ANNUAL ASK? AND DO I HAVE TO REAPPLY EVERY QUARTER FOR 5000, 5000, 5000? IS THAT CORRECT? AMY? THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT. SO I FEEL LIKE SHE'S JUST SAYING THIS IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVEN ON THIS PAGE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT SAYS, LISTEN, WHEN YOU ASK FOR YOUR WHEN YOU DO YOUR ANNUAL ASK IF WE'RE PAYING YOU THAT FULL ANNUAL ASK AT ONE TIME, YOU DON'T. ANNUAL APPLICATIONS DO NOT NEED TO REAPPLY QUARTERLY.

THAT'S REALLY ALL IT NEEDS TO SAY IS ANNUAL APPLICANTS. ANNUAL APPLICANTS DO NOT ARE NOT REQUIRED TO REAPPLY QUARTERLY. THAT'S ALL. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A PERFECT WAY TO HOLD ON THAT. LET THEM WRITE IT DOWN. BUT I ALEX. YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO APPLY ONCE PER GRANT CYCLE, SO I'M JUST MIXING THOSE WORDS UP TO SAY THE SAME THING A DIFFERENT WAY. I KNOW, BUT IT'S JUST THE APPLICANTS MAY ONLY APPLY FOR ONE GRANT PER FISCAL YEAR. SO IF YOU APPLY FOR THE ANNUAL ARTS PROGRAM GRANT, YOU'VE YOU'VE YOU'VE DONE THAT. YES. YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A YEAR. OKAY. SO I BUT THE THING THAT I'M TRYING TO THE FACT THAT WE HIT THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO FIND THE. SO THE POINT IS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN APPLICATION DEADLINE FOR EACH QUARTER FOR, FOR EACH CYCLE. SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHEN THE WINDOW IS OPEN AND THEN WHEN THE WINDOW CLOSES, AND THAT THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, NO APPLICATIONS ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN IN OR CONSIDERED UNTIL THE NEXT CYCLE OPENS. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE HIT THIS. I'M WONDERING IF Q1 APPLICATION DEADLINE, Q2 APPLICATION PUT THAT IN AS MAYBE A FOR THE ANNUAL APPLICATION FOR NO FOR EACH QUARTER SO THAT IT DIFFERENTIATES THE APPLICATION DEADLINE IS FOR THIS QUARTER'S APPLICATIONS. I THINK MY CONCERN WAS WHERE IT TALKED ABOUT THE DISBURSEMENTS GOING WITH THE QUARTER. SO THAT Q1, IT DID ALL THOSE THINGS. IT WENT FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL, AND THEN IT WAS GRANT DISBURSEMENTS FOR THAT QUARTER. I THINK THAT'S WHERE I GOT CONCERNED THAT IT WITH Q1 GRANT DISBURSEMENTS. RIGHT. BUT IT ALL WAS ALL TIED UP WITH THE APPLICATION FOR THAT AND SO FORTH. SO, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS I'M OVERTHINKING IT, BUT DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD ADD CLARITY IF I IF WE ADJUSTED THE LANGUAGE TO NOVEMBER Q1 GRANT DISBURSEMENTS, FEBRUARY Q2 GRANT DISBURSEMENTS, DOES THAT SOLVE IT OR DOES THAT KEEP IT COMPLICATED? I THINK IT'S FINE THE WAY IT IS. I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE RECUSAL ISSUE IS PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANT. BECAUSE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER AS WELL. DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? YEAH, I DO, AS A MATTER OF FACT. THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY

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NOW, HE DIDN'T SAY, LET ME DO RESEARCH AND LET ME WRITE A LEGAL OPINION. HE SAID, I THINK THAT I WAS INSTRUCTED BY. OTHER CITY PEOPLE TO CALL THE TEXAS ETHICS COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE FINAL SAY. AND SO I DID. I SENT A LONG EMAIL AND SAID ALL OF THESE WORDS, AND I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T WANT TO HURT THE THEATER. IF I NEED TO RESIGN FROM THE ARTS COMMISSION, THAT'S WHAT I WILL DO, BECAUSE I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE THEATER TO BE INELIGIBLE FOR ANY GRANTS, HOT FUNDS, GRANTS, AND. I WAITED. IT WAS SEVERAL DAYS, AND THEN I REALLY THOUGHT I WASN'T EVER GOING TO HEAR. AND AN ATTORNEY WITH THE CITY, WITH THE STATE, THE TEXAS ETHICS COMMISSION IN AUSTIN CALLED ME AND WE TALKED AT LENGTH, PROBABLY CLOSE TO 45 MINUTES. AND HIS ANSWER AT THAT TIME WAS THAT I WOULD NOT NEED TO RESIGN, AND I WOULD NOT NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM ANY OTHER GRANT DISCUSSIONS. CONSIDERATIONS REVIEW ONLY THE THEATERS. IF I'M STILL THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE THEATER WHEN THEY APPLY, HE SAID, I WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THAT SPECIFIC GRANT REQUEST REVIEW, BUT NOT OTHERS BECAUSE HE SAID HE SAID IF YOU WERE DETERMINED TO BE QUALIFIED TO SERVE ON THE ARTS COMMISSION, THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT POSITION YOU WERE IN, AND THEY EVIDENTLY BELIEVED THAT YOU HAD THE WHEREWITHAL TO MAKE SMART DECISIONS. AND THAT AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LIMITED SERVICE ON THE COMMISSION. BUT HE DID NOT. AND HE SAID HE WOULD EMAIL ME THAT. I SAID, THIS IS ALL I NEEDED FROM NOW. I DIDN'T ASK HIM TO EMAIL ME THE LEGAL OPINION. I CAN CALL BACK AND ASK FOR THAT LEGAL OPINION IN WRITING BECAUSE HE OFFERED IT.

BUT HE DID SAY THAT. I COULD CERTAINLY SERVE ON REVIEWS AND LOOKING AT GRANTS THAT DID NOT HAVE THAT, THAT WEREN'T THE THEATERS. YEAH, WAS HIS LEGAL OPINION. SO I FELT LIKE IT NEEDED TO SAY ARTS COMMISSION MEMBERS MAY APPLY, BUT MUST RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM REVIEWING GRANTS THEY ARE ASSOCIATED WITH. I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT WORDS IN THE SENSE WITH THE PREPOSITION, WHICH IS INAPPROPRIATE, BUT. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. IT'S NOT. IT'S REALLY NOT BECAUSE I ACTUALLY WAS ORIGINALLY UNDER THE OPINION THAT I NEEDED TO RESIGN. AND I THINK THE REASON, THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT IS, IS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THERE'S GOING TO BE QUESTIONS FROM OUR OWN COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT. I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO POP UP. AND I THINK THAT SINCE YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED TO HIM AND HE'S BEEN ABLE TO TELL US THAT, THAT LOOKS LIKE WE GOT THE RECOMMENDATION AND WE GOT INPUT FROM THE HIGHEST POWER, AND THAT CLEARS US OF ANY LIKE WE DIDN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW. SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD BECAUSE YOU HAVE SUCH A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH STATE. AND LIKE I FEEL THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I MEAN, I JUST WAS LOOKING AT I COULD HAVE SWORN THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION WITH THAT. THERE WAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY THINKING ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'RE ALSO MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE'RE VERY TRANSPARENT ON WHO WE TALK TO. WELL, I THINK THAT SAME COULD BE IF WE WANTED TO HAVE A FILM FESTIVAL. I THINK IT WOULD BE PROBABLY POTENTIALLY LIKELY THAT THAT TIM WOULD HAVE SOME RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEBODY THERE AND HE WOULD RECUSE HIMSELF FOR ONLY THAT. I WOULDN'T FOR A MINUTE THINK THAT TIM DIDN'T HAVE THE OPEN MINDEDNESS AND THE, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW OTHER PROPOSALS THAT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT HE WOULD BE. I DON'T THINK YOU I THINK YOU ARE YOU HAVE THE TALENT TO DO ALL THAT. I DON'T THINK IT'S ABOUT YOUR TALENT OR ANYTHING. I'M JUST SAYING AS FAR AS US AS A COMMITTEE, I WOULD ALWAYS WANT SOMETHING TO BE UP FRONT VERSUS SOMEONE USING IT AGAINST US. THAT'S ALL. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THAT IS IN HERE OR NEEDS TO BE ADDED IN, DO YOU THINK? OR CONCERNING THIS IDEA OF COMMISSIONS RECUSING THEMSELVES FROM THE VETTING PROCESS AT CERTAIN TIMES IS THAT IS THAT IN HERE I SEE INELIGIBLE. IT'S UNDER COMMISSIONER AND STAFF PARTICIPATION. CURRENTLY THE WORDING IS ARTS COMMISSION

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AND AMY SAID, WHAT'S ON THE RECORD? TIFFANY SAID WHAT HER FEELINGS ON THE RECORD IS. THERE NEED TO BE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, IT. JUST EVERYBODY JUST WANTS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR AND OPEN. SO. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE POLICY DOCUMENT. SO WHERE DO WE STAND ON THIS. WHEN ARE WE READY TO SAY THIS IS GOOD TO TAKE TO. SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO AGREE AS AN ARTS COMMISSION THAT THIS IS READY TO GO TO THE NEXT STAGE. THE NEXT STAGE IS CITY STAFF. BUT WE HAVE TO AGREE TO ACCEPT THIS AS IT IS WITH OUR CONDITIONS. ARE WE THERE YET? I THINK SO, YEAH. I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT. AND THEN LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.

VOTE. DO YOU WANT TO OR JUST DO A HANDS? YEAH, WE CAN DO HANDS OKAY. SO ONCE AGAIN I WROTE THIS AS A FISCAL YEAR 26 POLICY AND GUIDELINE. THERE'S. SO THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT. SO WHAT HE'S SAYING IS ONCE THIS PASS, DOES IT MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE IT. NOW IT DOESN'T APPLY TO US. IT'S THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION. SO WE'RE JUST BUT YOU CAN TAKE I WOULD THINK MAYBE YOU TAKE WHAT YOU FINALLY SAY TO GO WITH AND THEN YOU START MOVING ON. AT LEAST DO SOMETHING FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT YOU WANTED A POLICY IN PLACE BEFORE YOU DID ANYTHING.

THIS GAVE THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE WAY TO BUILD ONE WITH TIMELINES AND EVERYTHING THAT I COULD MAKE SURE WOULD WORK. SO CAN'T COVER 25 AND 26. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR 25, 26. THIS IS FOR 26. RIGHT. SO BUT YOU SAID IT WAS FOR 26. SO I'M ASKING IS, IS THIS POLICY? I WOULD SAY THAT IF IT DOESN'T COVER 25, 24, 25 FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. NO I UNDERSTAND.

SO THIS IS NOT WHEN DOES IT START. SO 25 THOUGH. WHAT WHAT DO WE WHAT ARE WE WORKING WITH FOR 25 IF WE WANT TO DO ANYTHING. NOTHING. SO THAT'S I WOULD SAY THAT CAN'T HAVE THIS COVER THE REMAINDER OF 25 AND 26. DO YOU WANT ONE. SO HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SO HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. WHAT THIS COMMISSION STARTED OFF IS VOLUNTEERS WHO CAME TOGETHER.

AND WE WENT TO DC, DC WHEN THEY CREATED THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS FUND. THAT PUT US IN A DIFFERENT POSITION. THERE IS NO POLICIES FOR WHICH CITY COUNCIL DECIDES ON HOW TO DISPERSE THE MONEY FROM THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS FUND, SO WE WERE TASKED TO CREATE THOSE POLICIES FOR DISBURSEMENT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. SO THEORETICALLY, UNTIL CITY COUNCIL APPROVES ON THE WAY, THAT MONEY IS DISPERSED FROM THE DECK OF A LARGE FUND BECAUSE IT'S NEVER EXISTED BEFORE, NO ONE HAS ACCESS TO THE DOLLARS. BUT I'M SAYING, WHY CAN'T WE WHY CAN'T THESE GUIDELINES BE FOR 25, THE REMAINDER OF 25 AND 26? WELL, WE HAVE TO APPROVE THEM. IT HAS TO GO TO THEM AND THEN IT HAS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL. AND WE HAVE TILL SEPTEMBER. RIGHT. AND. BUT THAT'S WHAT'S A PARALLEL. AND THEN CREATE ANOTHER SET THAT COVERS THE REST OF THIS YEAR. YEAH, I THINK WE DO BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE AS IS WELL WE DID ALL THIS AND THEN NOW WE STILL DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY OPERATING STANDARDS FOR OURSELVES. LIKE I'M COOL WITH DOING ALL THIS FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION. BUT WHAT ABOUT NOW? IT'S LIKE, ARE WE OPEN FOR BUSINESS TO POTENTIALLY ACCEPT REQUESTS FROM THE HOT FUND? YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE APPLYING FOR GRANTS, ARE WE OPEN FOR BUSINESS OR DO WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL 26 TO BE? SO TECHNICALLY YOU HAVE AN ARTS FUND POLICY.

THE CITY MANAGER PRESENTED ONE TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WAS ADOPTED. AND SO YOU HAVE AN ARTS FUND POLICY. SO IF WE SO IF YOU ALL AGREED TO HOLD OFF UNTIL YOU HAD CREATED THE PARAMETERS FOR HOW YOU WOULD, HOW YOU WOULD SPEND THE MONEY. SO YOU ALL KIND OF LIKE SAID, THAT'S NICE. YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. SO TO HAVE ALL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE I BUILT THIS BASED ON FISCAL YEAR 26, BECAUSE I HAVE TO GIVE YOU A FULL YEAR TO BE ABLE TO WORK IT OUT WITH FINANCE AND ALL OF THAT. NOW, IF YOU DECIDE THESE ARE THE RULES THAT YOU WANT TO USE, WHAT WE CAN DO IS SEND THIS ALONG ITS WAY AND THEN BUILD A PARALLEL ONE THAT JUST COVERS THE REST OF THIS YEAR. DID THIS ALREADY. THIS SAYS FISCAL YEAR 2526. YES, 26 YEAR. BUT IT SAYS FISCAL YEAR 2526. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY IN FISCAL YEAR 2425. RIGHT? SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT I'M ASKING FISCAL YEAR STARTS IN SEPTEMBER OCTOBER SEPTEMBER BEGINS IN OCTOBER. SO I'M SAYING IS IF WE DO IT NOW IF WE DO IT

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RIGHT. BUT WHAT ABOUT THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING. SO IF HE IF YOU IF AFTER WE GET THIS POLICY FOR 25, 26, IF WE WANT TO CREATE A PARALLEL THAT DISCUSSES HOW WE SPEND THE REST OF THIS MONEY. SO IT IS IT'S APRIL. SO MAY, JUNE, JULY, AUGUST. SO WE HAVE FIVE MONTHS. AND SO THIS HAS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE. SO BUT WE DO HAVE THE ARTS FUND. THEORETICALLY, IF YOU WANTED TO GET IN FRONT OF IT AND ASK FOR LIKE. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR WHAT. AND SO THAT'S WHEN WE GET THAT'S WHEN WE'LL HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY ON. BUT THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT NOW OKAY. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FISCAL YEAR 26. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY GOVERNANCE OVER THE REST OF 25. SO THIS SORT OF POLICY MAKING IS WE'RE MOVING IT FORWARD TO THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION. SO BUT WHAT ABOUT I'M ASKING IS THIS I GUESS I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE IT SAYS I GET IT SAYS 20 THE FISCAL YEAR 25 TO 26. SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR THE REMAINDER OF 25. NO, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. THE FISCAL YEAR STARTS AND 24 IN SEPTEMBER. SO WE'RE IN 2425. SO THEN THE NEXT ONE IS 2526. THEY'RE NOT ANNUAL.

IT'S A FISCAL YEAR, I GET IT. BUT I'M ASKING FROM APRIL 25TH TO SEPTEMBER 25TH WHAT ARE OUR OPERATING PROCEDURES. SO THAT'S WHAT HE SO THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING IF YOU WANT IF THERE'S SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON THE REST OF THE REMAINING THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHAT IS IT. BUT THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TODAY. BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE WHAT HE'S SAYING ONCE YOU APPROVE THIS, THIS GETS STARTED FOR THE BIG FOR THE BIG THING, IF WE IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT ONE, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO FOR THE REST OF THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR? AND THEN WE DECIDE AND THEN WE CAN THEN WE CAN PICK A DOLLAR AMOUNT. THEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE ACCESS IT. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THAT TONIGHT. THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST PRIORITY. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT ITEM TEN. LET'S TALK ABOUT ITEM TEN. HOW ABOUT THE OTHER. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE? I WAS GOING TO SAY I NEED I NEED SOME CLARITY ABOUT THE RECUSAL THING AND WHAT THE WORD IF THE WORDING CHANGED OR THE WORDING SAME, OR I CAN VOTE. SO TO SAY MR. EXCUSE THEMSELVES FROM ANY REQUEST WITH WHICH THEY ARE AFFILIATED. AND THAT WOULDN'T JUST BE ME. THAT WOULD BE TIM, IF IT WERE A FILM FESTIVAL OR OR ANYTHING ELSE, I THINK. I THINK WE DO HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC ON THAT. WHAT IS THEIR APPRAISAL? SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO. RECUSE THEMSELVES, ARTS COMMISSION MEMBERS WITH WHICH THEY ARE AFFILIATED? YES, SURE. SHE'S HAD AN EXTRA ONE RECUSE THEMSELVES. THE ONE WITH THE REQUEST WITH WHICH IS UNLESS WE HAD A. SYNERGY. IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE WHERE ON THIS PAGE ARE THE VERY, VERY FIRST BULLET? THANK YOU. THE AT THE END OF IT, SHE'S ADDING IT TO THE END. IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME WAY CITY COUNCIL WORKS RIGHT NOW. SO I WAS HOW ABOUT ARTS COMMISSION MEMBERS MAY APPLY BUT MUST RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM DISCUSSIONS AND DECISIONS RELATED TO APPLICATIONS THEY ARE AFFILIATED WITH. YES. THAT WAY IT KNOCKS OUT BOTH OF THEM. YEAH. I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THAT? IS THAT A GOOD FOR CONSENSUS. YEAH. YEAH OKAY OKAY. THAT'S THE WAY THAT'S THE WAY MOST BOARD. THAT'S THE WAY MOST CITY COUNCIL WORKS. I MEAN THAT'S THE WAY MOST BOARDS WORK. YEAH I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD STUFF. BUT TO SAY RECUSE THEMSELVES COMPLETELY FROM ANY KIND OF GRANT DISCUSSION IS REALLY RENDERS THEIR SERVICE ON THE COMMISSION USELESS. SO YEAH. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? YES. OKAY. ANYTHING LEFT ON THE POLICY TO DISCUSS? AND IF WE'RE READY TO. SO WHATEVER THE MOTION NEEDS TO BE, IT'S I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE ARTS FUNDING POLICY AND GRANT GUIDELINES, AS AMENDED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? TIFFANI SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. OKAY, LADIES AND

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[8. BloomFest (May 2nd) Planning Discussion]

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ANY INTEREST SHEETS LIKE WE'VE DONE BEFORE, BUT THEN WE HAVE THESE TWO ART ACTIVITIES, SO I'M HOPING EVERYBODY CAN COME. IF YOU CAN. IT'S A FRIDAY AFTERNOON, MAY 2ND. YEAH. RIGHT AFTER LIKE FOUR HOURS. IT'S NOT A LONG. YEAH. 4 TO 10 WITH MUSIC. SIX HOURS.

SORRY. SO WE'RE FOCUSED KIND OF ON THIS FAMILY ACTIVITY TYPE OF A DEAL. DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY SPARE AWNINGS THAT THEY COULD THAT WE COULD PUT OUR BOOTH UNDER? I'LL FIND OUT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I THINK. THEY HAVE SOME WHITE TENTS. THEY HAVE SOME WHITE. WELL, FOR THE BOOTH, YOU KNOW, I ASKED AT CHRISTMAS TIME AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY. YEAH. NO, I, I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY NOTHING. BUDGET FOR THIS. DON'T WE NEED I GOT SOME BIG TENTS. THEY SAID TOYOTA. YOU HAVE ONE.

CAN YOU THROW HAS ONE THAT THEY WILL GLADLY MAKE AVAILABLE? BECAUSE MAYBE WE CAN. OR IF WE CAN'T FIT IN IT, WE CAN AT LEAST BE IN THE SHADOW BECAUSE, WELL, I MEAN, IT'S ONLY THE NORMAL, LIKE THE SAME SIZE AS OUR PRODUCTS, WHICH, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE FINE FOR THE, FOR THE TABLE OR THE BOOTH, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK FOR THE BIG RIGHT THAT MAYBE WE CAN BE IN THE SHADOW OF IT SOMETIMES SO WE CAN BRING AN UMBRELLA. AS THE SUN MOVES, WE'LL BE IN AND OUT OF THE SHADOW. BUT ANYWAY, DO YOU WANT US TO BE IN SOME LARGE TENTS? TENTS? LIKE A TENT? YEAH.

RETRACTABLE TENT YOU DO. WE COULD MAYBE TURN THE TOP OF IT INSIDE OUT SO IT DOESN'T SAY THE LOGO OR ANYTHING, BUT I HAVE SOME. WELL, BRING IT. AND IF WE NEED 20 REPEAT OR ANYTHING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED. WE'RE GOING TO BE ALLOWED TEN BY TEN SPACE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK PROBABLY A TEN BY TEN. SO WE'RE JUST ALL GOING TO COME OUT THERE. BUT WE HAVE TWO ACTIVITIES, SO WE REALLY NEED TWO SPACES, LIKE BECAUSE WE'LL NEED TWO AT LEAST TWO TABLES, IF NOT THREE THREE TABLES IF WE CAN. ALEX. OR SHOULD WE JUST COMMUNICATE WITH THEM. AND AROUND THIS, DEVIN, I SAID LET'S YOU. I BET I CAN HELP WITH THAT TOO. YOU CAN HELP. OKAY. SO

[02:45:07]

[Items 9.a & 9.b]

BUT ALEX WAS KIND ENOUGH TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT WE COULDN'T USE MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT STANDS. I HAVE THE LIST OF THE PROJECT THEY WANT TO DO. THEY WANTED TO BUY LITTLE CANVASES AT A DOLLAR EACH 350. THEY HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL LAUNCH FOR THEIR BOOK PROGRAM. A LOT OF KIDS PARTICIPATE IN IT. THE ONLY THING THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS, IS ARTS COMMISSIONERS TO BE THERE TO ASSIST. THEY JUST WANT VOLUNTEERS. THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANYTHING. ACTUALLY, I JUST TALKED THE WHOLE SUMMER. NO, THAT'S JUST FOR THE LAUNCH DAY.

IT'S ONE DAY, MAY 31ST, SO 10 TO 12 MAY 31ST. IS NOTHING TO DO ON SATURDAY? NO. I MEAN, WHAT TIME IS IT? SATURDAY? 2 TO 4:34 P.M. OKAY. I WOULD DEFINITELY VOLUNTEER. IT SAYS 10 TO 12 ON HER. YEAH. OKAY. WELL I WILL DEFINITELY PARTICIPATE THE 12. SO CHECK WITH IT. SO SEND ME THE FINAL INFORMATION ONCE YOU FIGURE IT OUT. BUT ON HERE IT SAYS 2 TO 4. WELL LET ME KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS I'LL CHECK. YEAH. CAN YOU SEND THE EMAIL AND JUST GIVE US THE RIGHT INFORMATION AND THEN WE CAN ALL RESPOND. BUT I'LL DEFINITELY VOLUNTEER FOR TWO HOURS. CHECK ON TIME. THANK YOU. CAN I HAVE A 2 TO 4? TWO? YOU HAVE A 2 TO 4. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE IT ON HERE.

THAT'S WHERE WE PROBABLY GOT IT. ALEX. YEAH, IT'S FROM THEM. OKAY. I'M JUST OPENING UP THEIR GRAPHIC. WELL, JUST LET ME KNOW TO DOUBLE CHECK SO I CAN PUT IT ON MY CALENDAR NOW. OKAY. PASS THIS TO ALEX IN CASE THIS IS SUFFICIENT FOR THAT ORDER. IF YOU WANT ME TO, I CAN. ALSO TAKE YOU TO EMAIL. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S COOL. GREAT I LOVE IT. AND YOU'VE GOT THE I'VE GOT THE LINKS IN MY INBOX I THINK SO, BUT THAT'S MORE SPECIFIC. YOU CAN THINK OF ME AND KIDS, RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. WE SUFFICIENT ITEM NINE. ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE? OKAY. SO ITEM TEN

[10. Juneteenth Funding Update]

THIS IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING. AFTER EVERYTHING WE'VE GONE THROUGH NOW. AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S CHANGED. BUT ANYWAYS THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE. I TENTATIVELY PUT TOGETHER AND IT ACTUALLY IS ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. TIFFANY I WAS TRYING TO DO OTHER DIVERSITY ARTS THIS YEAR, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. I WAS LOOKING AT A LITERARY CAFE WHERE WE COULD INVITE SOME AUTHORS IN, SET UP A ROOM, AND THE IDEA WAS SET UP THE ROOM ONE WAY FOR PROBABLY THE WHOLE WEEK, AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO JUST MOVE THINGS AROUND ALL THE TIME. SO THAT WOULD BE GOOD. AND I HAD CONFIRMED WITH MISS JOHNSON WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE AUTHORS. AND THEN ANNE AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE, AND I WAS GOING TO GET SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND

[02:50:03]

BUT NOW, AFTER OUR DISCUSSION TODAY, WHO KNOWS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. SO WHAT WE CAN DO.

SO WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IS THIS WOULD HAVE TO GO ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S AGENDA IN MAY, AND WE'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH A WAY THAT WE COULD REQUEST IT. AND IF IT'S ELIGIBLE FOR WE KNOW IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDS BECAUSE THE POLICY WE JUST MADE, IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T MEET HOT FUNDS AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY GENERAL FUNDS OTHER THAN $400 IN THE GIFT CARD. SO I. GREAT JOB ANGELA, I LOVE THAT. I LOVE EVERYTHING REALLY. AND THEN AND THEN WE STILL HAVE THAT ROOM DURING THE DAY. SO IF I'M THINKING ABOUT AN IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS DURING THE DAYTIME, THE ROOM WAS STILL AVAILABLE, LIKE A FILM, WHATEVER. AND A CHILDREN'S READING CIRCLE KIND OF THING. BUT I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO WORK. EVERYBODY TO DEATH. THE 19TH, THE CITY OFFICES ARE CLOSED. CITY. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE 19TH, BUT THE CITY ENJOY THEIR DAY OFF. SO IT WAS JUST AN IDEA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE THE ARTS AND THE PAINTING. AND SOME OF THAT MOST OF THE TIME. SO I JUST WANTED TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IT'S A PHENOMENAL IDEA. I LOVE IT, BUT. I DON'T KNOW GALLERY I LOVE IT, NO GALLERY. ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CITY STAFF? WHEN WE LEFT THE LAST MEETING, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE DISCUSSION ON THE SIDE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WENT. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT DID OR HOW IT WENT. SO CAN WE ASK BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE WERE ASKING ABOUT EARLIER, RIGHT? I MEAN, CAN WE GO TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW WE CAN HOW WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BUDGET TO SPEND OURSELVES, BUT WE IS ABOUT TO GET $60,000. I THINK THAT'S SO FUNNY TO ME. SO, SO, SO, ANGELA, WHY IS THIS NOT BECAUSE THIS CAN ATTRACT VISITORS. IT'S MULTI-DAY. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FUNDING POLICY BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT SAYS IT, YOU SAID IT SAYS HOT FUNDS, THEY WOULD FALL UNDER SINGLE PROJECT GRANTS, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE. IT WOULD BE INELIGIBLE BECAUSE IT'S LITERARY, PERFORMING AND LITERARY ARTS. WELL, TECHNICALLY

[02:55:02]

BUT THAT'S LIKE THAT'S CUTTING IT CLOSE FOR THAT'S THE RECORD AND THAT'S ASSUMING IT CAN GET ON THE AGENDA. RIGHT. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO IT'S CUTTING IT CLOSE BECAUSE THE THING IS THREE WEEKS OUT A B IS, IS WE KNOW WHICH THINGS WE'RE ALREADY HAVING THIS YEAR AS OF RIGHT NOW. SO I THINK WE GO IN AND ASK YOU AND ASK FOR THE THING IF WE CAN GET ON THE AGENDA TO DO, ASK FOR THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE KNOW WE HAVE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, AND IT'S A BIG DEAL BECAUSE WE'RE HISPANIC CITY. AND SO THAT'S THE OTHER PART OF IT. IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK ABOUT IT SHOULD BE FOR BOTH. BUT YEAH. SO ALEX, STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT KIND OF ASSUMING THIS IS EVEN POSSIBLE, WHAT WOULD THE ARTS COMMISSION HAVE TO DO TO GET THIS IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL? MAKE IT MAKE IT QUALIFY, THEN VOTE ON A RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL. AND WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A PRESENTATION THAT WAS APPEAL TO THEM. BUT IT HAS TO QUALIFY FOR HOT FUNDS. OKAY. WHAT WHAT IT'S MULTIPLE DAY BOTH OF THESE EVENTS ARE IN. I THINK THAT THEY ALREADY QUALIFY FOR FUNDS. SO WE KNOW THAT BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT OUR FUNDS. SO BOTH OF THEM ARE ALREADY QUALIFIED. I BELIEVE YOU GUYS USED IT FOR THE AWARDS. SO WE COULD USE THAT VIDEO BECAUSE IT DISPLAYS ALL THESE THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY DONE VERY SUCCESSFULLY. AND I THINK IT'S JUST ABOUT GOING TO CITY COUNCIL AND ASKING FOR THE MONEY, OR I THINK THAT WE JUST SAY, HEY, LISTEN, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA RIGHT NOW FOR THE FOR THE NEXT YEAR STARTS. AND WE WOULD LIKE $7,500, $7,500, OR WE'D LIKE $20,000 TO DO THESE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THE END OF THE YEAR. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE WE NEED THAT TO DO THE ASK. THERE'S NO REASON WE DON'T HAVE. WE HAVE MONEY, ACCESS TO MONEY, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET FOR 25. I KNOW THIS IS FOR 26, BUT THIS RIGHT HERE IS IMPORTANT. AND THIS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS. THEY JUST CREATED THIS THIS VFW HISPANIC HERITAGE EVENT. AND FAR AS IT ROTATES INTO A VFW EVENT.

SO WHEN IT COMES TO OUR CITY, I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT VERY WELL. I, MIGHT RECOMMEND THAT THERE PROBABLY SHOULD NEED TO BE A GROUP THAT WOULD GET TOGETHER TO VET THIS OUT, BECAUSE IF THAT GROUP DOESN'T GET TOGETHER WITH ALEX TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED, BECAUSE WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON IT. SO WE'D HAVE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING TONIGHT. THE CHALLENGE IS THIS I'M NOT CONFIDENT QUALIFIES. OKAY. THE JUNETEENTH MULTI-DAY EVENT WITH A MARKETING BUDGET PROBABLY MAY QUALIFY BECAUSE IT COULD BREAK TOURISM. IT COULD. BUT I MEAN, THIS IS A COUPLE HOUR EVENT THAT'S ALREADY BEING COVERED BY THE CITY, BUT WE HAVE OTHER EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON DURING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. WE HAD MULTIPLE DAY EVENTS LAST YEAR. BESIDES, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE HISPANIC. IT'S JUST FIGURING OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT QUALIFY. SO I THINK, COULD WE DO THIS JUST IN LIEU OF TIME AND THE TIME, THE SHORTAGE OF TIME, IF MAYBE SARAH AND ANGELA, IF WE COULD MAYBE DO A MEETING OR ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO JOIN. BUT I THINK IF WE JUST JUMP ON A QUICK CALL THAT SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SUBMIT TO OVER TO ALEX OR TO EVERYONE AND BE ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE YOU KNOW, THAT WAY YOU CAN SEND THEM SOMETHING THAT GETS US ON THE AGENDA, BECAUSE I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. SO BUT HERE'S THE SO HERE'S THE THING. IF WE DON'T VOTE TODAY ON SOMETHING, WE DON'T MEET AGAIN UNTIL ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR ON MAY 27TH, AND CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO MEET ON THE SIXTH AND THE 20TH JUNE. AND IT'S NOT LIKELY TO BE IT'LL BE THE 20TH. SO THERE'S FOUR MONTHS. WHY DON'T WE ASK FOR CAN WE ASK I THINK THAT NO, NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO WE HAVE TO VOTE TONIGHT.

OTHERWISE WE CAN'T VOTE AGAIN UNTIL THE 27TH OF MAY. CITY COUNCIL MEETS ON THE SIXTH AND THE 20TH. SO WE VOTED TONIGHT. I'M SAYING, COULD WE VOTE? THAT'S I WAS GOING TO SAY, COULD WE JUST VOTE AND SAY, HEY, GUESS WHAT, WE WOULD LIKE AN ALLOWANCE OF $5,000 PER MONTH. AND THEN THAT WAY THAT GIVES US A $20,000 BUDGET FOR THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THAT WAY, IF THEY NEED FIVE, SHE NEEDS FIVE. WE STILL HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS, WHETHER IT'S TO SUPPORT SOMETHING OR DO OTHER

[03:00:05]

TWO PROBABLY NUMBER TWO. BUT WOULD IT QUALIFY FOR HOT FUNDS. DOES IT DIRECTLY PROMOTE TOURISM AND HOTEL CONVENTION INDUSTRY? THAT'S THE THAT'S THE THAT'S THE KEY. IT DOESN'T IT DOES. IT DOES VISUALLY EXPRESSED BECAUSE OF THE PERFORMANCE AND THE FEES. ALL OF IT DOES. LIKE IF PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND SAY, HEY, LISTEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HAVING LIKE THINK ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME OVER THIS WAY FOR HISPANIC HERITAGE. I MEAN, WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE COME THIS LAST YEAR WAS NOT EVEN FROM FROM OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEN EVEN FOR WHETHER IT BE THE MIXERS OR THE MIXERS THAT CAME FROM THE PEOPLE, CAME FROM DE SOTO AND ALL THAT. AND I'M NOT SAYING THEY MIGHT SPEND OR NOT SPEND THE NIGHT, BUT WE KNOW YOU CAN HAVE ONE ROOM AND THEY CONSIDER THAT A GREAT TURNOUT. SO I JUST FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO ASK FOR THE MONEY. AND BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TONIGHT SO WE CAN TURN AROUND AND VOTE ON IT, AND HE CAN GO BACK AND ASK FOR WE CAN ASK FOR THE MONEY. BY THE TIME THE THING COMES AROUND, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS COMING. I FEEL LIKE IS LAST YEAR WE HAD SAID THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET THIS MUCH MONEY FOR THIS AND THIS AND THAT. NOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE MONEY THAT WE CAN GIVE OTHER PEOPLE MONEY FOR, BUT NOW WE CAN'T GIVE OURSELVES MONEY, RIGHT? SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON IN ORDER FOR US TO SEND IT ON TO CITY COUNCIL AND SEE IF IT GETS ON THEIR AGENDA? I THINK IT'S A LITTLE SAFER TO ASK FOR MONEY SPECIFICALLY FOR JUNETEENTH THAN SPANISH HERITAGE, THAN JUST $20,000 FOR OUR OPERATIONS. YOU KNOW, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. IT JUST SEEMS WE'VE PROVEN OURSELVES WITH THESE EVENTS.

MAYBE IF WE WONDER, WE WANT TO DO A MIXER OR WONDER IF WE WANT TO DO A ICE CREAM SOCIAL OR ANYTHING LIKE, THEN WE DON'T HAVE NO MONEY FOR THAT, BECAUSE BASICALLY WE DID ALL THIS WORK TONIGHT, BUT IT'S FOR NEXT YEAR. THAT'S GREAT. BUT WHAT'S WHAT ABOUT THESE NEXT FOUR MONTHS IN OUR FISCAL BUDGET? YEAH, I'D SAY 20. I'D SAY I THINK 20,000 IS DOABLE FOR 25. BUT I DON'T SEE WHY EITHER ONE OF THESE EVENTS WOULD BE FUNDED UNDERNEATH 5000 TO $7500. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. SO, ALEX, I MEAN, WE NEED I NEED SOME WE NEED SOME STAFF INPUT. LET'S SAY THAT THIS COULD EVEN GET ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA IN MAY, WHICH IS A BIG IF. I KNOW THE SIXTH IS PACKED. THE SIXTH IS ALREADY, BUT WE STILL COULD TRY PAUL. SO IT'LL LIKELY BE THE 20TH. SO MAY 20TH. WHAT KIND OF. SO WITH THIS SORT OF BROAD 20 NUMBER, WHAT LANGUAGE SHOULD WE DRAFT THAT WOULD BEST MOVE IT FORWARD? SOMETHING THAT WE COULD.

DO? I HAVE A QUESTION. DID THE DOES THE CITY COUNCIL WANT US TO CONTINUE THE JUNETEENTH AND HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH ACTIVITIES? HAVE THEY GIVEN US A SPECIFIC DATE? THAT'S NOT THE WAY THAT WORKS. I'M JUST CURIOUS. NO, THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS. WE GIVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO. ALSO, SINCE HE'S LOOKING AT IT, I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO MACK. I'M NOT GOING TO

[03:05:04]

HOW ABOUT THIS? THE ARTS COMMISSION REQUESTS OPERATIONAL EXPENSES OF $20,000 TO COVER OUR NEEDS AND PLANS. FROM MAY TO OCTOBER 2025, INCLUDING JUNETEENTH AND HIS AND HISPANIC HERITAGE. MONTH EVENTS. AND THEN PUT. AND WE DO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THIS AND INCLUDE MAYBE TENTATIVE. EXPENSES FOR HISPANIC MONTH AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, A LINE ITEM FOR A MIXER OR TWO. OR WE COULD SAY, YEAH, OR FUNDING TO PROVIDE PREVIOUS EVENTS SUCH AS MIXERS OR WHATEVER. THAT'S FINE. I THINK IT SHOULD JUST BE BECAUSE THEY IT'S JUST A BLURB TO LET THEM KNOW, WHERE'S THIS MONEY GOING? WHAT DO YOU NEED IT FOR? AND CAN WE CALL IT BRIDGE FUNDING? BRIDGE FUNDING? THAT SOUNDS GOOD. I MEAN, I DIDN'T MAKE THE WORD UP. I'M JUST ASKING IN THE MUNICIPAL WORLD, LIKE A BRIDGE LOAN. YES. I'LL LOAN YOU THIS MONEY IF YOU WANT TO MAKE. THAT WAS A QUESTION. OKAY. SO CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION? I GOT A MOTION MY WAY OUT OF HERE. OKAY. THE ARTS COMMISSION REQUESTS OPERATIONAL EXPENSES OF $20,000 TO COVER OUR NEEDS AND PLANS. FROM OCTOBER.

FROM MAY TO OCTOBER 1ST, 2025, INCLUDING OUR JUNETEENTH AND HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH EVENTS.

A MIXER AND OTHER POTENTIAL. I'M CONCERNED THAT CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO WANT TO SEE SPECIFICS.

THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE SPECIFICS. I'M CONCERNED. YEAH. THEN YOU SUPPLY THIS AND YOU SUPPLY TENTATIVE EXPENSES. YOU KNOW, YOU JUST SAY 5000 OR 6000. I MEAN, ALEX ALREADY HAVE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE USE ON THAT OR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'VE USED ON ANY EVENT. HE HAS ALL THAT INFORMATION. SO THEY WANT THOSE SPECIFICS ALREADY. I DON'T KNOW, I THINK YOU HAVE TO SAY THE 30TH AND YOU SAY OCTOBER 1ST, YOU'RE LEGALLY INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO SAY THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH OR SEPTEMBER 30TH. YES. SAY OCTOBER 1ST. YOU'RE INTO THE NEXT FISCAL.

OKAY. MAY 1ST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH. AND THEN PUT SPECIFIC BUDGET 65,060 500 FOR JUNETEENTH. I'M SORRY, DO YOU HAVE A BUDGET FOR SPENDING? WHICH I DO? WELL, DO THE SAME AS YOU DO THE SAME AS ABOVE. I WOULD DO LIKE 60, 500, 60, 500 AND THEN WHATEVER WE HAVE LEFT, WE CAN SPEND ON SOMETHING ELSE AND SAY 65. BY THE TIME YOU ADD TALENT TO IT, I MEAN, TALENT CAN RUN 15 TO 20, 500 TO 5008, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. SO I WOULD JUST LET ME ASK, WHAT WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING TO. THESE ARE OUR PLANS. THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO ASK. WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO. BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT, TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO WANT SPECIFIC ALL THE DETAILS, BUT THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT WHAT WE YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ESTIMATE THOSE EXPENSES MIGHT BE. I WOULD RECOMMEND HAVING ONE OF OUR HEAVY HITTERS, LIKE IF AMY OR TIFFANY, PEOPLE WHO PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL, I'D RECOMMEND THAT THEY PRESENT CITY COUNCIL. I WILL BE PRESENTING ON MAY 3RD TO ECONOMIC. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IS HAS ASKED ME TO PRESENT FOR THE THEATER'S ADDITIONAL $7,000 THAT THEY DIDN'T GIVE US BACK LAST FALL. SO I WILL ALREADY BE THERE AND I WILL BE PRESENTING, AND I CAN WEAR A SECOND HAT IF YOU WANT ME TO. I MEAN, I WILL BE THERE AND THE CITY COUNCIL KNOWS THEY PUT ME ON THE ARTS COMMISSION. SO I THINK YOU AND TIFFANY HAVE THE MOST EXPERIENCE. SO I'M HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER YOU NEED ME TO DO. BUT I WILL BE THERE ALREADY. SO ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH. SHE'S ALREADY WITH ME. THAT'S FINE. BUT YES, IF YOU CAN JUST EMAIL ME SOME PARAMETERS, I'LL TYPE IT UP AND MAKE IT LOOK NICE, THROW THE LOGO ON IT. AND SO AT LEAST 7000 FOR A MIXER AND A SOMETHING I'M JUST SAYING IS I THINK THAT LIKE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IS, IS WE JUST NEED TO SHOW LIKE THE MONEY'S GOING SOMEWHERE LIKE THEY GOT 6000, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY TWO MIXERS, I DON'T THINK I REALLY DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO BE. I THINK THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME PLANS TO SOME EVENTS, SUCH AS THE JUNETEENTH EVENT MIXERS, THAT THAT WAY THEY'LL BE LIKE, OH YEAH, WE'VE BEEN TO THESE THINGS BEFORE. THE MIXERS ARE ALL ATTENDED. WE GOT A VIDEO FOR IT. WE GOT A BUDGETS FOR ALL THESE THINGS. WE'RE DONE. BUT

[03:10:05]

[11.a. Ben Franklin Mural discussion]

[03:15:03]

[11.b. Feed Store art discussion]

SIX, FOUR BY EIGHT, FOUR BY EIGHT PANELS THAT WE HAD PAINTED THE FEED STORE NOW IN ITS HEYDAY. AND WE'LL PASS THIS AROUND TO SHOW YOU SOME PUBLICITY ABOUT. IT LOOKED GOOD.

IT BECAME SHABBY AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER WE GAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OVER TO SOMEONE WHO WAS YOUNG, AND SHE DID IT FOR A WHILE, AND THEN JUST KIND OF LEFT IT WITH JUST 1 OR 2 THINGS UP THERE. SO IT LOOKS KIND OF SHABBY. THE FEED STORE IS OUR MOST HISTORIC DUNCANVILLE BUILDING THAT STILL EXISTS. IT'S THE OLDEST, AND IT IS. YOU KIND OF HAVE TO WORK AT NIGHT TO HAMMER THINGS UP THERE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS ANYWAY, IT'S SOMETHING. BUT THE FEED STORE PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WONDERFUL ABOUT US DOING WHATEVER WE WANTED TO DO, AND WE USED TO CHANGE IT OUT SEASONALLY, LIKE WE'D MAKE A HOLIDAY THEME OR WE'D MAKE A SPRING THEME. BUT WE DO HAVE THESE OLD PANELS AND WE THOUGHT WE WOULD REFRESH A FEW OF THEM AND JUST PUT THEM UP AS A GIFT TO THE CITY. SO IT'S MORE JUST TO INFORM YOU. BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO HELP WITH IT, THAT ONE IS OF A LAKESIDE PARK. AND THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS DUNCANVILLE SPECIFIC. I REMEMBER I DID IT, BUT THE WIND BLEW IT DOWN. OR IT MIGHT BE ON THE BACK SIDE ANYWAY, WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN TO REVIVE SOMETHING, TO TRY TO BEAUTIFY THAT ASPECT OF OUR

[12. Arts Commission’s Activities Video]

IT'S JUST KIND OF AN ONGOING PIECE THAT I'VE WORKED ON FOR YEARS, AND I NEVER ACTUALLY PERFORMED IT BEFORE. AND SO THIS THIS IS A WORLD PREMIERE PERFORMANCE.

[03:20:42]

GEORGES.

LATINA. MORENA. LATINA DE LA LA LA NEGRA MORENA. YA AMIGO DE LA CUMBIA. YO LA LA AQUI ME SORRY.

SIQUIERA AMIGO DE LA CUMBIA. WELL DONE, WELL DONE. ALL THAT. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO STAND UP FOR YOU, BROTHER TIM. I LOVE THE MUSIC. I LOVE THE WAY YOU SCORED IT. I LOVE THE DRAMATICS. YOU DID THAT REALLY GOOD. THAT WAS GOOD. YOU'RE A ROCK STAR. SOME OF US SAW IT AT THE AT THE MEETING, BUT. YEAH, BUT SOME OF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT. I SAW IT BEFORE. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK THAT JUST THIS WAS A LITTLE MORE INTIMATE. SO WE WERE JUST FOCUSED ON IT. YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB AND YOU REPRESENTED SO VERY, VERY TALENTED. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BLESSING US. ALL RIGHT. IF THAT IS IT ANY MORE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.