Apr 01, 2025 City Council

YEAH. I'M GOOD. GOOD MORNING. P AND Z MEETING LAST NIGHT SO I CAN. I SAW YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD

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[EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 1 of 2)]

[WORK SESSION / BRIEFING]

CHIEF STOCKMAN IS HERE TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY. THAT'S AN ANNUAL GRANT THAT WE'VE DONE FOR EVERY ONE. I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT ARE THE STORAGE BOXES FOR? SO IT CONTAINS EMERGENCY FLARES, EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT. IT ALSO HOUSES OUR RADIO EQUIPMENT AND ALL OF OUR ELECTRONICS. AND OTHERWISE IT'S JUST ROLLING AROUND. CORRECT? OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA. I WASN'T READY FOR THAT. YEAH.

HANG ON NOW. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO JUMP INTO THE CITY COUNCIL CALENDAR. CITY SECRETARY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ON APRIL 5TH IS THE DON'T DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS TRASH OUT TRASH OFF AND MOVIES IN THE PARK ON APRIL THE 7TH IS THE BOND THE BOND COMMITTEE MEETING. THAT'S AT 630 HERE IN THE BRIEFING ROOM. AND ON THE 11TH WE HAVE THE DUNCANVILLE PD WATER LANTERN CEREMONY AT LAKESIDE PARK. AND THE EXTRAVAGANZA AT ARMSTRONG PARK IS ON APRIL THE 12TH. WE ALSO HAVE A BOND COMMITTEE. THE SECOND ONE FOR APRIL IS ON APRIL THE 17TH, WITH THE HOLIDAY ON GOOD FRIDAY AND ALSO THE SENIOR EASTER EGG HUNT, AND ALSO ON THE 18TH AND FIRST DAY OF EARLY VOTING IS APRIL THE 22ND. COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR IS ON APRIL THE 24TH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

APRIL 26TH IS CONCERT CONCERTS IN THE PARK, AND THAT'S AT ARMSTRONG PARK. AND THEN WE HAVE ON APRIL THE 29TH IS THE PRELIMINARY BUDGET WORKSHOP. AND THE LAST DAY OF EARLY VOTING AS WELL. QUESTION. YES. MR. STEVENSON? YES, TYLER, FOR THE DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS TRASH OR WHAT CHEMICALS ARE YOU ACCEPTING? ARE YOU ACCEPTING LIGHT BULBS WITH FLUORESCENT LIGHT BULBS? WHAT ARE YOU ACCEPTING? WHAT ARE YOU NOT ACCEPTING? I THINK THAT IS THE OPERATION CLEAN DUNCANVILLE. THE DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS TRASH OFF THE CDB EVENT THAT WE'RE DOING CLEANUPS IN MULTIPLE PARKS. I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF OPERATION CLEAN, BUT I CAN GET THEM TO YOU. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND MISS GOODEN IS JUST TO MAKE A POINT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN TAKE THOSE LIGHT BULBS AND DUMP IT AT THE PARK. OKAY? ESPECIALLY READING MY MIND. I KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF THEM. AND AT 630 ON THE 29TH IS THE LAD FEST AT THE

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IF IT GOES DOWN THEY HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE WITH THE SOFTWARE MANUFACTURER TO GET UPDATES PUT IN. AND THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK SEAMLESSLY WITH THEIR SCHEDULE AND THE SOFTWARES. AND ADDITIONALLY SOME OF THOSE THINGS COST WITH THIS SYSTEM, EVERYTHING IS SEAMLESS.

IT'S ALL PAID FOR. IT'S ALL INCLUSIVE SELF-SERVICE FEATURES. SO RIGHT NOW THE REC CENTER DOES

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YES, SIR. WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THE SEAMLESS INTEGRATION LOOK LIKE? SO WE DID TEST THIS.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OTHER CITIES THAT UTILIZE MUNIS SOFTWARE AND THE EXPLORER SOFTWARE. WHAT IT WHAT IT MEANS TO US IS WE DON'T HAVE TO MANUALLY TRACK AND RECORD OR REPORT DAILY CASH TRANSACTIONS, REPORTS. OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEMS WILL BASICALLY TALK TO EACH OTHER AUTOMATICALLY, SO THEY'LL PULL THE CORRECT NUMBERS IN THE RIGHT GOES WITH ALL THESE OTHER SYSTEMS. WE'VE ALREADY TESTED THAT. YES, SIR. SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH A, A ANOTHER CITY IN CANADA ON THE CITY CALENDAR, WHICH WAS KIND OF A NEW THING THAT WE STARTED DOING. BUT WE DID BACKGROUND AND CHECK THAT THEIR IMPLEMENTATION WOULD BE WITH IS CURRENTLY WORKING. SO THEY'RE WORKING WITH THAT NOW. TYLER MUNIS IS SOMETHING THEY'VE DONE IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT CITIES. I THINK 3 OR 4. WE'VE BACKGROUNDED BACKGROUND CHECKS AND WE HAVE OUR FINANCIAL TEAM CHECKING INTO THE OTHER CITIES, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH EXPLORER. THE ESRI AND ARCGIS IS A SIMPLE IMPLEMENTATION. THEY JUST PULL THE GIS SOFTWARE THAT WE HAVE ON FILE AND IT INTEGRATES INTO THE SOFTWARE AS WELL. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF IT BEING API, MEANING IT CAN KIND OF TALK TO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THAT IS COMPUTER BASED. GOOD. THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. MODULES. HOW MANY MODULES ARE IS THIS ONE COMPLETE SYSTEM THAT WILL COMMUNICATE WITH ALL THOSE OTHERS? OR DO YOU NEED DIFFERENT MODULES OF IT IN ORDER FOR IT TO? EVERYTHING IS ALL INCLUSIVE IN THE YEARLY SUBSCRIPTION THAT WE PAY FOR. SO IDEALLY I'LL GET TO THE FINANCIALS ON THE NEXT SLIDE. BUT IT'S ONE MODULE. AND THE ACCOUNTING ASPECT IS KIND OF TWO. SO IT WOULD BE REC CENTER REC. REC CENTER FINANCIAL. THEN THE FINANCIALS. USE IN OUR IT DEPARTMENT GAVE A THUMBS UP. YES SIR I'M HEARING THEY'RE KIND OF. YES SIR. SO WE HAVE VETTED IT WITH FINANCE IT EVERYBODY THAT WE NEED TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS IMPLEMENTATION. SO. QUESTION.

YES I HAVE THE PRESENTATION ON THE MANGA OF LAST WEEK. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO INTERACT WITH THAT AS WELL OR SO WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN WITH MY GOVERNMENTS ONLINE YET ON THEIR API SOFTWARE, BUT IF THEY ARE AN API BASED SOFTWARE THEN IT WILL INTEGRATE GOOD. THEY ARE. IF THEY ARE OKAY. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I NEEDED TO DO. SO PERFECT. SO THE FINANCIAL OVERVIEW OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'LL BE COMING AT A LATER COUNCIL AGENDA IS KIND OF A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT TOTALING $84,180 BASED SERVICE AND INTEGRATION IS 73,200. SO THAT IS OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD SPLIT BETWEEN THE REC CENTER AND THE FIELDHOUSE, AND THEN A CONTINGENCY JUST IN CASE THE SOFTWARE GOES UP. BUT WE NEED ADDITIONAL TRAINING OR SOMETHING COMES UP. THAT 15% CONTINGENCY COVERS A $10,980 BREAKDOWN. SO THE CONTRACT BREAKDOWN IS THIS YEAR. WE'LL BE DOING 13 200 AND FY 2025 FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION. SO WE'LL DO AN IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS TO GET EVERYTHING RUNNING, GET ALL THE KINKS OUT BEFORE THE END OF THE FY 25 BUDGET YEAR. AND THEN FY 2630 IS KIND OF THAT FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT FOR 6000 OR FOR $12,000 A YEAR. AND THE COST WILL BE SHARED BETWEEN THE FIELDHOUSE AND THE REC CENTER. YES, SIR. SO THOSE THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. SO WHAT WHAT'S WHAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO SPLIT THAT COST UP BETWEEN THE FIELDHOUSE 6006 THOUSAND EACH. EACH DEPARTMENT WILL CONTRIBUTE. SO IT'S 12,000 A YEAR TOTAL. AND THEN REC CENTER WILL PAY 6000. FIELDHOUSE WILL PAY 6000. THANK YOU. AND I'LL MAKE A NOTE THAT DOES REPLACE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. SO IT'S REALLY JUST REPLACING ONE SOFTWARE WITH THE OTHER. SO IT'S NOT AN ADDITION I'M. YEAH I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE THAT 8000 NOW. YEAH. SO 4000 INCREASE FOR ALL THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONS. SO JUST IN

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I HAVE A COMMENT, NOT A QUESTION. SO WE HAVE MUNIS. IN MY EXPLORER. YES, MA'AM. A TON OF SYSTEMS. SO WE AGAIN THIS IS REPLACING OUR CURRENT RECREATION MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE. SO IT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE. IT'S A REPLACEMENT FOR SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK A LITTLE BIT BETTER WITH THOSE SYSTEMS. YES. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TOLD ME WAS THAT THE CURRENT SOFTWARE DOES NOT INTEGRATE. SO MANUAL PROCESS. CORRECT MANAGEMENT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. IS THAT A SUBSCRIPTION. THE CURRENT SOFTWARE WE'RE USING NOW IS THAT IT IS AN ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THIS YEAR SO WE CAN CUT OFF SERVICES BY THE END OF FISCAL YEAR AND START WITH THE NEW ONES. SO WE'RE NOT DOUBLE PAYING FOR SOFTWARE. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR. YES, SIR. NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS THREE C I'M SORRY THREE B. AND UNUSUAL TO SEE MISS DAVIS EARLY IN THE EVENING. BUT I THINK SHE'LL GET TO GO HOME AND WE HOPEFULLY CATCH YOU ALL WHILE YOU ARE STILL AWAKE. THANK YOU. THE PURPOSE OF ME ACTUALLY HAVING THIS BRIEFING NOW, INSTEAD OF AT THE END OF THE MEETING, IS WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH ALL OF YOU ABOUT THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORTS IN GENERAL. SO THE INFORMATION THAT'S FLOWING, IF YOU HAVE ANY INPUT, IF YOU WANT TO BACK OFF THE FREQUENCY, WE'VE BEEN FAITHFULLY, YOU KNOW, PRESENTING THESE EVERY MONTH FOR THE LAST 15, 18 MONTHS NOW. SO WE JUST REALLY WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE DISCUSSION BEFORE GOING INTO THE REPORT ITSELF, TO OFFER ANY FEEDBACK AND CHANGES YOU MAY BE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT THIS POINT.

SO JUST KIND OF PUTTING IT OUT THERE FOR YOU ALL TO LET US KNOW WHAT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO SEE. DO DIFFERENT IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO IF I COULD JUST SO WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING THE WORK PLAN, WE TALKED ABOUT THERE WERE TWO DELIVERABLES. ONE, THE END OF MARCH AND I THINK THE OTHER WAS THE END OF SEPTEMBER, WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A FINANCIAL REPORT. WE HAD BEEN DOING THIS MONTHLY REPORT. IN PLACE OF THAT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DELIVERING WHAT YOU WANT. AND WE JUST HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHECK IN WITH YOU ON THIS.

WE'LL KEEP DOING THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT IF THAT'S. THE SILENCE HAS SPOKEN. SO ARE WE GETTING A MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT NOW? YES. THIS IS JUST FOR US TO TALK ABOUT. IF WE WANT A FINANCIAL REPORT, MONTHLY, WE'RE GETTING ONE. OKAY. WE'RE STILL GETTING THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT YOU'RE USED TO SEEING. NOTHING DIFFERENT. BUT IT'S JUST, AGAIN, AT THIS POINT IN THE EVENING, WANTING TO BRING IT TO YOU, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COMMENT BEING MADE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY WANTING TO CHANGE IT UP OR, OR SO WE JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT. IF YOU GIVE US THE CONTEXT AROUND THAT CONVERSATION, WHAT I DO REMEMBER SO WAS THE WORK PLAN. AND THEN THERE WAS IT REFERENCED TWO FINANCIAL REPORTS PER YEAR. BUT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN PLACE AND WE'VE BEEN DOING, AS JENNIFER SAID, 15 OR 18 MONTHS NOW, WHATEVER IT IS, WE ACTUALLY WERE DOING MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORTS. NOW, USUALLY JENNIFER'S AT THE END OF THE MEETING BECAUSE BY THE TIME WE GET TO THAT, RIGHT. AND SO AND WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT MOVING THAT AROUND AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, BUT IT'S BASICALLY ALL THE SAME DETAIL, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY PROVIDING. SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH YOU. AND OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT. THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS GOING THROUGH A LOT OF TRANSITION AND GOT US CAUGHT UP TO SPEED. SO WE'RE IN A LOT BETTER PLACE NOW THAN WE WERE 15 MONTHS AGO. IF YOU DON'T WANT A MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT AND WOULD PREFER IT TO BE QUARTERLY OR SOMETHING, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT TOO. BUT WE WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH YOU ON WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON ON? I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DO WE NEED A MONTHLY REPORT? WE NEED OBVIOUSLY WE NEED WE NEED REPORTS. BUT DOES IT NEED TO BE MONTHLY? THAT'S JUST MY QUESTION OR EVEN PRESENTED. COULD IT JUST BE DELIVERED TO A MONTHLY BASIS REPORT MONTHLY. AND THEN WE'LL JUST GET ORDER? WE CAN DO THAT. THE ONLY CHALLENGE WITH DOING THAT, IF WE JUST EMAIL YOU THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT, THE PUBLIC'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A

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MISS ODIE. CERTAINLY MISS PETTIS CAN'T CAN'T SAY ENOUGH. YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO INTO THE PROCESS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT NEEDS A QUARTERBACK. AND SO SHE HAS BEEN THAT QUARTERBACK FOR THE ADMIN TEAM. SO JUST ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SAY MY APPRECIATION FOR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND MAYOR COUNCIL THAT IS SO IMPORTANT HAVING THOSE AUDITS DONE ON TIME AND THOSE FILED. I WAS JUST TALKING WITH A GRANT ADMINISTRATOR YESTERDAY AND, YOU KNOW, ALMOST ANY FEDERAL GRANT, A LOT OF STATE GRANTS, BUT ALMOST ANY FEDERAL GRANT, THE VERY FIRST THING THEY WANT TO KNOW IS WHETHER OR NOT YOUR AUDIT WAS FILED ON TIME.

AND IF IT WASN'T, YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED. SO NOW THAT WE'RE UP TO DATE, WE HAVE ABOUT $20 MILLION IN GRANTS IN THE PIPELINE THAT ARE WORKING THAT OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T HAVE QUALIFIED. SO YOU'RE. SORT OF BEING A QUARTERBACK. I TALKED ABOUT MISS PETTIS. PETTIS. DOES SHE HAVE A JERSEY? YEAH. SHE'S ACTUALLY ACTUALLY WE DID FROM THE BIGGEST LOSER COMPETITION WHICH WE WON BY THE WAY. YEAH. PEOPLE WILL MISUNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M STILL GOING TO GIVE HER REAL QUICK OKAY. SO THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, THIS IS THE FIFTH MONTH OF THE FISCAL YEAR. SO BENCHMARK AT THIS POINT IN THE YEAR IS 41.7%.

SO AS WE MEASURE THE REVENUE AND EXPENSES THAT'S THE TARGET NUMBER TO COMPARE IT TO. SO WE'VE COLLECTED FROM AN ALL FUNDS PERSPECTIVE 42.6 MILLION. AND WE HAVE COLLECTED 1.3 MILLION IN INTEREST INCOME. SO OVERALL ALL FUNDS WE'VE COLLECTED 48.7% OF THE BUDGET.

FOR THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, WE HAVE EXPENDED 30.6 MILLION. AND THAT COMES TO 29% OF THE BUDGET.

AT THIS POINT OF THE YEAR. YOU CAN SEE THE FIVE YEAR HISTORY THERE. AND COMPARING, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING COLLECTION AND EXPENDING HOW IT'S CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. SALES TAX OUR BENCHMARK IS 25% OF THE YEAR. AGAIN THAT'S BECAUSE WE COLLECT WE RECEIVE THE PAYMENT TWO MONTHS BEHIND. SO WE'VE ONLY COLLECTED THREE MONTHS OF SALES TAX IN THIS FISCAL YEAR TO DATE.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY AT 26%. I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT THIS PAST MONTH THE COLLECTIONS SHOWED TO BE UP, AND WE ARE AT 8.4% GREATER THAN WE WERE AT THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR. SO WE ARE TRENDING AHEAD AT THIS POINT IN MY QUESTION. YES, SIR. IT SEEMS LIKE ON THE PRINTED REPORT THAT WE HAD, THERE WAS A NOTE THAT EXPLAINED WHY IT WENT FROM 333 TO 318 AND 23 AND 24. YOU RECALL THAT IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A FOOTNOTE I DO NOT I WILL PULL IT UP TO REMIND MYSELF. OKAY. YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. SO IN THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, THERE WERE SOME AUDITED COLLECTIONS WHICH WE HAD. THEY HAD TO REFUND SOME SOME PAYERS. AND SO WE COMPARED THIS TIME OF YEAR TO LAST YEAR.

IT SEEMS WE'RE MUCH AHEAD BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVING REFUNDS. SO IF THEY WERE PAYING UP TO THE LEVEL THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT EVEN. BUT BECAUSE OF THE COMPARISON WAS THEY WERE GETTING REFUNDS AND NOW THEY'RE PAYING THE FULL AMOUNT, THE VARIANCE IS GREATER. THAT'S THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO GENERAL FUND. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE COLLECTED 65% OF THE BUDGET AT THIS POINT IN TIME 796,000 IN INTEREST INCOME.

WE'RE STILL DOING PRETTY GOOD WITH THE INTEREST EVEN THOUGH THOSE RATES ARE DEFINITELY GOING DOWN. BUT WE'RE STILL DOING GOOD IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR, THAT OUR ACTUAL EXPENDITURES COME IN AT 36%, SO WE ARE ABOUT 5% BEHIND THAT BENCHMARK. SO SHOWING YOU THE

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AS YOU CAN SEE. AGAIN 65% THE ONLY AREA IN WHICH WE ARE TRENDING AHEAD IS PROPERTY TAX, WHICH IS COMMON AT THIS TIME OF YEAR AS MOST OF THOSE COLLECTIONS HAVE COME IN. ALSO, INTEREST INCOME IS TRENDING AHEAD FROM OUR PROJECTIONS AND THEN ALSO CHARGES FOR SERVICE WHICH IS CMS COLLECTIONS AND MEMBERSHIPS, THINGS OF THOSE NATURE ON THE EXPENDITURE CATEGORY. AGAIN SAME THING BREAKING EVERYTHING DOWN BASED ON THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. THE ONLY AREA WHICH IS TRENDING AHEAD IS THE CAPITAL OUTLAY. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THAT ONE TIME PURCHASE OF THE GENERATOR THAT WAS THE POLICE. SO IN THIS MONTHLY REPORT, ALL OF THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN UPDATED IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT ENDING FUND BALANCE IS FROM 24 TO THE AUDITED NUMBERS AND PLUG THOSE IN. SO THIS IS THE MOST UPDATED NUMBER BASED ON OUR REVISED PROJECTION. WHAT WE HAVE IN EXCESS OVER THE 150 DAYS IS ABOUT 4.1 MILLION. SO WHEN WE GATHER AT THE END OF APRIL TO START HAVING SOME OF THOSE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF USES OF THOSE FUNDS. OKAY. SO WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE BUDGET, IT WAS AT 3 MILLION. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROJECTED TO BE 4 MILLION. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING WITH THE RESERVES REMOVED WE SHOULD BE RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE AUDITED FUND BALANCE FROM 24. SO THIS TIES BACK TO THE AQUIFER. AND SO BASED ON OUR PROJECTION WHICH WE'RE PROJECTING AT THIS TIME, A LOSS OF 599,000 BECAUSE OF SOME ONE TIME COSTS THAT WE HAD TO AMEND. SO OF COURSE THAT REDUCES WHAT WE PROJECT TO END WITH. SO WE TAKE THIS 21.9 MILLION AND TAKE IT AGAINST WHAT THE 150 DAYS SHOULD LOOK LIKE. WE HAVE 4.1 MILLION OVER AND ABOVE THE 150 DAYS ■ONE TIME, BUT THAT'S HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO WORK WITH FOR SOME ONE TIME. IT'S INCREASED, SO THAT'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING ON TO UTILITY FUNDS. SO WE'VE COLLECTED 7.3 MILLION TO DATE. SO THAT'S ABOUT 32%. AGAIN WE COLLECT ONE MONTH BEHIND ON UTILITY REVENUE. EXPENDITURES ARE 6.8 MILLION WHICH IS 30% OF THE BUDGET. AND 4.3 OF THAT IS DALLAS WATER UTILITIES AND THE TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY FOR OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT. AND THERE'S SOME OTHER FUN HIGHLIGHTS. SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WE PAID OUT TO DATE 537,000 IN BUSINESS INCENTIVES FOR THE GRANTS. AND THEN PROUD TO SAY THAT WE PAID OUR LAST PAYMENT FOR THE FIELD HOUSE DEBT THIS THIS MONTH. SO WE ARE DONE WITH THAT. CAN YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME? YEAH. MR. FIELD, HOUSE DEBT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. HEY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. HOW IS YOUR WHEELS TURNING? THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT WRAPS US UP. YEAH. OH. DO WE HAVE COUNCIL BRIEFING TO RECEIVE BRIEFING ON PARK SECURITY? I'VE GOT MATT STOGNER AND I ALSO HAVE MARK HERE. SO MATT LEAD US OFF. YEAH. GOOD EVENING. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE. THESE ARE OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE DATING BACK ESSENTIALLY A YEAR TO DATE. WHAT I WANT YOU GUYS TO REALLY EMPHASIZE AND LOOK AT IS FOR THE MOST PART, EXTRA PATROLS WILL BE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OUT OF EVERYTHING. SO WE ARE CONDUCTING EXTRA PATROLS OUT THERE. I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BE AT THESE PARKS 24 OVER SEVEN, BUT OUR OFFICERS DO THE BEST THEY CAN IN GETTING OUT THERE, DRIVING THROUGH, CERTAINLY INTERDICTING ANYBODY WHO'S COMMITTING A CITY ORDINANCE VIOLATION FOR BEING IN THERE AFTER HOURS IS MORE THAN LIKELY WHAT? THESE ARE HERE. SO THAT'S ALEXANDER PARK, I WILL TELL YOU. WE KIND OF TOOK THE MAJOR PARKS AND RUN THE, THE DATA ON IT. SO YOU HAVE ARMSTRONG PARK USING 100 JAMES COLLINS. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ONLY 13 THERE, BUT IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. A LOT OF PEOPLE HANG OUT BEHIND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO WE'RE RIGHT THERE. SO GOING THROUGH THESE I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO QUICK. I WANT YOU GUYS TO SEE THIS INFORMATION. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I CAN ANSWER THEM AS BEST I CAN. IT'S WELL QUICK WELFARE CHECKS. IS THAT WHAT THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY THAT SOMETIMES IS THERE IN THE PARK? YEAH. SO THAT COULD BE A SITUATION WHERE YOU

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IT'S A MYRIAD OF THINGS. IT'S JUST US THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO CRIMINAL OFFENSE. WE'RE THERE TO PREVENT A BREACH OF PEACE. SO CHRIS HARRIS PARK. HARRINGTON PARK. NOW, THE GOOD THING WITH HARRINGTON PARK IS WE HAVE THE GATES. OUR OFFICERS, I BELIEVE, NOW HAVE THE CODE TO GET IN AFTER HOURS. I'LL TELL YOU IN THIS IS KIND OF JUMPING FORWARD TO OUR STAFFING SLIDE. ASSISTANT CHIEF TURINA WAS WORKING PATROL ONE DAY AND WAS TRYING TO GET DOWN THERE MULTIPLE TIMES, AND EACH TIME HE WAS CALLED TO A CALL FOR SERVICE AWAY FROM IT. SO AND AGAIN, WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A SECOND. I DON'T WANT TO JUMP TOO, TOO MUCH INTO THIS. SO HARRINGTON PARK, 38 EXTRA PATROLS. LAKESIDE PARK. WE HAVE 151 EXTRA PATROLS, SO THE OFFICERS KNOW WHERE THINGS HAPPEN AND WHERE THINGS HAPPEN. OFFICERS WILL GO AND CONDUCT EXTRA PATROLS NOW. SHOTS FIRED, NO INJURIES. SO HOW THESE CALLS ARE GENERATED IF LET'S SAY WE HEAR SOMETHING HERE AND WE SAY, HEY, 911, I THINK IT HAPPENED IN SONIC. SO THEY'LL PUT IT AT SONIC IN THAT ADDRESS. IT MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED THERE, BUT THAT'S THE ADDRESS THAT DISPATCH WILL USE TO IDENTIFY THE LOCATION. SO THE OFFICERS WILL CHECK THE AREA. OBVIOUSLY THE PARK IS PART OF THAT AREA. WE HAD TWO RECENT SHOOTINGS WITH INJURIES. I CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL WITH THOSE. AND THAT'S THIS IS OVER THE LAST YEAR. THIS WAS THE LAST YEAR. IS THAT THOSE SHOOTINGS WITH INJURIES. SO THAT INCLUDES THE ONE LAST WEEK AS WELL. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE JUST HAD SO THERE WERE NONE UP UNTIL ABOUT. THAT'S CORRECT A WEEK OR TWO AGO. ABSOLUTELY. ONE OF THE. BOTH OF THEM STARTED AT ANOTHER LOCATION AND ENDED UP AT LAKESIDE. ONE OF THEM STARTED IN DESOTO. THEY DECIDED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MEET UP AT LAKESIDE TO FIGHT. THEY DECIDED TO FIGHT THE BOYFRIEND'S GET OUT. ONE OF THEM SHOOTS AT THE OTHER. IN FACT, THAT THIRD SUSPECT GETS OUT AND SHOOTS THE MAIN SHOOTER IN THE BUTT AS HE'S TRYING TO SHOOT THE OTHER GUY. SO WE GOT THEM IDENTIFIED AND EVERYTHING'S DONE ON THAT. LIONS PARK. AND REDBIRD PARK. I'M SORRY, COULD YOU GO BACK? YES.

OF COURSE. FOR A SECOND. SO WHAT'S THE DOCUMENTED REPORT? THAT COULD BE LIKE A COMMUNITY ACTION REQUEST. IF THEY SEE SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED, THEY'LL DOCUMENT A REPORT JUST TO SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED AT THAT POINT. REDBIRD PARK. WATER VIEW PARK. AND THEN STAFFING. I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE SIX VACANCIES IN OUR AGENCY, OUR RECRUITERS, OUR BACKGROUND INVESTIGATORS. EVERYBODY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY TO FILL OUR VACANCIES. NOW, WE CAN WE CAN HAVE ZERO VACANCIES, BUT WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH EFFECTIVE STAFFING. AND IF YOU SEE OUR CURRENT EFFECTIVE STAFFING SHORTAGES, WE HAVE FIVE OFFICERS OUT ON INJURIES. WE HAVE ONE SHIFT WITH TWO FUNCTIONAL POLICE OFFICERS ON IT. I HAD A LIEUTENANT WORK IN A B, I HAD AN ASSISTANT CHIEF HELPING. I WILL GO AND HELP. SO WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN JUST TO GO OUT AND ANSWER CALLS FOR SERVICE. IT'S HARD FOR US TO DO. I DON'T WANT TO SAY PROACTIVE STUFF, BUT IT'S HARD FOR US TO GET INTO THESE PARKS A LOT BECAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY GOING FROM ONE SIDE OF THE CITY TO THE OTHER, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE PRIORITY OF CALLS WILL DICTATE

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AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A CALL FOR THAT OFFICER TO HAVE TO GO TO RESPOND TO. AND IT'S TRENDING BACK UPWARD IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF CITIZENS INVOLVED. IT'S SLOWLY I WILL TELL YOU, VOLUNTEERISM IS I CAN SEE IT'S SOMEWHAT GENERATIONAL IN YOU SEE KIND OF A DOWNTICK, BUT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF. IT'S GOING TO COME BACK UP. SO IT'S A VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITY 100% OKAY. YOU GET A NICE CAR THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO REPLACE WITH EVEN A BETTER CAR TO GO OUT AND PATROL. AND THERE'S TRAINING, OF COURSE. YES. THEY GET TRAINED PRIOR TO GOING OUT THERE. NOBODY GETS A BADGE WITH THAT. WE'LL GIVE THEM A STICKER. THE HONORARY. SO LIKE I SAID EARLIER, A PATROL LIEUTENANT. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE TOO GOOD TO GO OUT AND DO DO DIRTY WORK, BUT HIS JOB IS TO COMMAND THAT SHIFT, NOT TO GO OUT AND WORK THE SHIFT. SO BUT OBVIOUSLY, OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS HERE IN DUNCANVILLE. AND WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO RESPOND TO THESE CALLS, WE'RE GOING TO GO DO NOW.

AND ALSO, CHIEF, I'M SORRY, YES, I HAD KNOWN TO THIS, BUT IT'S ALSO FROM THE STUDY THAT WAS DONE THAT WE ACTUALLY NEED SIX MORE OFFICERS. 11, 11. YES, SIR. SO OUR INTERNAL VACANCIES. SO ALPHA DAYS ARE SHIFTS OR PLATOONS. ESSENTIALLY YOU HAVE ALPHA AND BRAVO PLATOONS AND THEN YOU HAVE DIFFERENT SHIFTS. SO ALPHA DAYS REQUIRES EIGHT OFFICERS WERE MISSING TWO. SO EVERY SHIFT HAS TWO OFFICERS THAT THEY'RE DOWN JUST FROM THE MINIMUM STAFFING. OUR MINIMUM STAFFING IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW IS FOUR COPS. THAT'S IT FOR THIS SIZE OF CITY AND HOW BUSY WE ARE. A MAJOR INCIDENT TAKES THEM COMPLETELY OFF THE STREET. AND WE RELY ON CEDAR HILL AND DESOTO TO COME IN AND HELP. NOW WE DO THE SAME WITH THEM. BUT WHAT THAT DOES IS IT STRAINS OUR RESOURCES TO WHERE PEOPLE LOOK AT IT, ESPECIALLY MY PERSONNEL, AND SAY, ULTIMATELY, THEN I CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, WORK LESS WITH MORE OTHER THINGS, MORE BENEFITS. SO I GOT TO I GOT TO FIGHT THAT. SO CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, THEY HAVE FIVE DETECTIVES WITH THE AMOUNT OF CASES THAT THEY HAVE. SO A LOT OF THESE CASES GET PUSHED BACK, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT HAVE LITTLE TO NO LEADS. SO THEY'LL CONCENTRATE THEIR EFFORTS ON THE ONES WITH SIGNIFICANT LEADS. NARCOTICS THREE VACANCIES. TRAFFIC THREE VACANCIES. TRAINING AND PERSONNEL ONE VACANCY. SO. AND THE PARK RANGER IS VACANT. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT WOULD BE ON MY PRIORITY LIST DOWN HERE BECAUSE ALL OF THESE ARE SO VITAL TO THE OPERATIONS OF THAT DEPARTMENT. WHAT HAVE WE DONE? SO YOU SEE THOSE VACANCIES AND TRULY WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO HELP BRIDGE THAT GAP. WE ARE RECRUITERS. WE'VE INCREASED OUR BACKGROUND INVESTIGATORS TO WHERE THERE WERE TWO. NOW THERE'S NINE. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS NOW WE'RE GETTING THROUGH OUR LISTS MUCH QUICKER AND WE'RE HIRING PEOPLE MUCH QUICKER. OUR RECRUITERS, WE HAVE 16 OF THEM NOW INCLUDES OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF. THEY ARE HITTING ALL OF THESE RECRUITING EVENTS. WE CHANGED THE METHOD IN WHICH THE APPLICANTS GO THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS. WE'VE TRIMMED EVERY PIECE OF FAT THAT WE CAN TO MINIMIZE ANY DEAD AREA. FROM THE TIME THEY APPLY TO THE TIME THEY GET HIRED. I MET WITH AN APPLICANT YESTERDAY WHO WILL START MONDAY, AND SHE IS A LATERAL OFFICER FROM ANOTHER LOCATION. HER SHE WAS WITH SEVERAL OTHER AGENCIES THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND SHE REJECTED THOSE OTHER AGENCIES JUST BECAUSE OF OUR RECRUITING.

SHE SAID THAT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY RECRUITED ME TO COME HERE, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT THAT I REJECTED THESE OTHER AGENCIES. THAT IS A HUGE TESTAMENT TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THAT

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THAT'S CONVERSATION. RIGHT? THAT'S 100% THE CONVERSATION. AND I'LL TELL YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME, IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE THIS, THIS IS OUR REPORTS FOR ALL OF 2024. I'LL SHOW YOU. THIS IS 67. THIS IS 20. SO WHERE ARE OUR RESOURCES? IN THE CORRIDOR. YOU DON'T SEE A LOT IN THE MID CITIES. YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT HERE. THAT'S SOME BUSINESS DISTRICTS. BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S ON IT'S COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. THAT'S WHERE ALL OF OUR RESOURCES GO. AND THEN THIS IS IF YOU PUT THIS OVER IT, THIS IS THE REPORTS THAT WE'VE TAKEN FOR THE SAME YEAR. AND IT'S IDENTICAL. SO YOU GUYS KNOW THIS. I'M A VERY DATA DRIVEN PERSON. WHEN YOU SEE THIS IN THIS, IT TELLS A VERY VIVID STORY OF WHAT'S GOING ON. YES, SIR. SINCE OBVIOUSLY IT'S A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, DO YOU SEE THINGS LIKE THE CAMERAS BEING A DETERRENT IN THOSE AREAS? I THINK THE CAMERAS WOULD CERTAINLY. I'LL TELL YOU THIS, THE FLOCK CAMERAS AND OUR OTHER CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE HAS BEEN A GAME CHANGER FOR US. IT HAS ALLOWED US TO BE IN LOCATIONS WHERE WE CAN'T PHYSICALLY BE AT.

ONE OF MY BIG GOALS IS TO START UP A REAL TIME CRIME CENTER WHERE WHEN I HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY SITTING AND WATCHING THESE CAMERAS 24 OVER SEVEN, SO WHEN THEY SEE SOMETHING NOW, THERE'S NO DELAY IN THAT CALL FOR SERVICE. THEY THEN GET ON THE RADIO AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE SOMEBODY BREAKING INTO A CAR XYZ, AND THERE'S NO AMBIGUITY AS FAR AS THE CORRECT LICENSE PLATE, NONE OF THAT. IT IS DIRECT CONTACT. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO DETAIL ON IT. SURE, WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LOCK CAMERAS THAT ARE WHEREVER THEY ARE, RIGHT. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE MOBILES, HOW MANY OF THOSE DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE. WELL, WHEN YOU SAY MOBILE WE HAVE ARLO CAMERAS. SO WE DO WHAT WE CAN WITH THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE. WE ARE VERY RESOURCEFUL WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW. IT TAKES MONEY FOR US TO GET REALLY NICE, SET IT OUT THERE, SHINES LIGHTS, MAKES ALARMS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. BUT WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT. WE USE THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS INFORMATION, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR ULTERIOR METHODS TO WHETHER IT'S GRANTS. NOW THAT THE AUDIT'S DONE, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO FIND OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE TO HELP PAY FOR THAT STUFF. AND KNOWING THAT THEIR EYES CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE, WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH OUR IT DEPARTMENT TO GET MORE CAMERAS IN OUR PARKS. WE HAVE TWO PARKS CURRENTLY THAT HAVE CAMERA SYSTEMS, AND WE'RE WORKING ACTIVELY WITH THOSE. OUR I.T. DEPARTMENT TO GET EXPAND THAT TO OUR OTHER PARKS AS WELL. RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE WORKING ON GETTING FIBER TO ALL OF THOSE MAJOR PARKS TO HELP US HAVE THAT LIVE DATA BACK AND FORTH SO THAT WE CAN GET REAL TIME DATA AND SEE VISUALLY WHEN IT'S HAPPENING, AS OPPOSED TO RECORDING IT AND DOING IT AFTER THE FACT AND TRYING TO GO FIND THE BAD GUY AFTER IT ALREADY HAPPENS. SO I'M REALLY SURPRISED AT THE NUMBERS IN THE PARKS. I EXPECTED THEM TO BE HIGHER. SO YEAH. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. BARTON. JUST YES, MY HEART JUST SAID SOMETHING THOUGH. THAT'S KEY THOUGH, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PUTTING CAMERAS IN THE PARKS AND I THINK THERE WERE EVEN SOME CAMERAS IN THE PARKS. BUT THE NEXT THING THAT WAS MISSING WAS GETTING THE FIBER TO ACTUALLY OPERATE THE CAMERAS. SO WE STILL NEED TO DO THAT. JOE.

CHIEF? YES, SIR. JUST IN A NUTSHELL, CAN YOU TELL US WHY PEOPLE ARE COMING AND WHY THEY'RE GOING? OFFICERS, THAT IS SO RECRUITING, I THINK I THINK DUNCANVILLE HAS A VERY DISTINCT

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YES, SIR. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT WILL CLOSE OUT OUR WORK SESSION AT 7:05 A.M, GIVE YOU A SHORT BREAK. GET BACK IN THERE AT THE END AT 7 TO 10 BEFORE YOU LEAVE. YOU STILL HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AFTER. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE REGULAR SESSION TO ORDER AT 7:15

[CALL TO ORDER]

SO WE'LL GET GOING AND GET RIGHT INTO IT. FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS TO GO THROUGH OUR INVOCATION WITH PASTOR DESMOND L TOLIVER OF BONDAGE BREAKING MINISTRIES. PLEASE STAND. GOD BLESS YOU EVERYBODY. FATHER, IN JESUS NAME WE THANK YOU AND WE PRAISE YOU FOR THIS COUNCIL WE MEETING. WE PRAY TODAY, GOD THAT YOU WILL TOUCH THE MAYOR, TOUCH THE CITY OFFICIALS. WE PRAY, OH GOD IN JESUS THAT YOU WILL GIVE THEM WISDOM, GUIDANCE AND THAT YOU WOULD TAKE FULL CONTROL OF THIS COUNCIL AND GOD, THAT YOU WILL GIVE THIS CITY THE DIRECTION, THE INSTRUCTION THAT IS NECESSARY. AND WE GIVE YOUR NAME, THE PRAISE, THE GLORY AND THE HONOR. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU. PLEASE JOIN US IN THE PLEDGES. OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY. AND HIS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. OKAY. NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS

[1.A. Mayor's Report.]

AND TO MY SURPRISE, A YOUNG GIRL SLAPPED HER FACE AND SAID, OH MY GOSH, IT'S THE MAYOR! I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT. BUT THEN SHE FOLLOWED UP BY SAYING, WE STUDIED YOU IN GOVERNMENT. SO I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THAT WAS A REALLY PRECIOUS MOMENT FOR ME AND I WILL NEVER FORGET IT. BUT ALONG WITH THAT, THEY THEY SHOWCASED EVERYTHING FROM THEIR ARTS, CULINARY WELDERS, GETTING PEOPLE CERTIFIED AS WELDERS. SO RIGHT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COLLEGE, THEY CAN GO RIGHT ONTO THE JOB AND MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. AND THEY HAVE SO MANY PROGRAMS LIKE THAT, AND THEY WERE ALL SHOWCASED AT THIS EVENT. EARLIER. THERE WAS A SHORT EVENT THAT OCCURRED IN THE GYMNASIUM WITH WITH A LOCAL NEWS STATION. AND FOR SOME REASON, THEY STUCK ME WITH THE BASKETBALL TEAM AND. I DON'T THINK I HAVE A SHORT MAN'S COMPLEX, BUT WHEN YOU'RE STANDING NEXT TO BASKETBALL PLAYERS, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG. SO I ASKED IF I COULD GET THE TWO GUARDS NEXT TO ME AND INSTEAD OF THE 611 FORWARD. SO IF YOU SEE THE PICTURE, YOU'LL SEE I DON'T LOOK REALLY SMALL BECAUSE I PRE-ARRANGED THE PICTURE. BUT IT WAS IT WAS A GREAT EVENT AND A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IS DOING. AND I WOULD ASK YOU ALL IN THE FUTURE WHEN THOSE EVENTS, IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED. GO OUT AND SEE WHAT THESE KIDS ARE DOING. IT'S VERY EXCITING. SECOND THING WAS STILL ON THE SUBJECT OF DISD. THEY HAD A5K RUN ANNUAL FIVE K RUN THAT THEY DID FROM THE BEN FRANKLIN LOCATION. DIFFERENT GROUPS OF ABILITIES, OF WHICH I WAS NOT ONE, BUT IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. IT WAS A FUN EVENT, VERY WELL

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[1.B. Councilmembers' Reports]

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EMERALD CITY IS GOING TO BE THE BAND THERE. THEY'RE EXCELLENT BAND. AND SO IT'S A GOOD EVENT FOR OUR CITY AND THEN AND IN THE SPIRIT OF THINGS, JEREMY, I'M GOING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE MINNOW CALLING CONTEST AT LAKESIDE PARK, IT'S BEING RESCHEDULED THIS SATURDAY DUE TO RAIN. OKAY, THAT'S MY APRIL FOOL'S JOKE. SORRY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PENEBAKER. GOOD EVENING. FIRST, I WANT TO MENTION THAT TONIGHT IS THE FIRST NIGHT OF THE REC CENTER OFFERING ARCHERY. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S SPECIAL TO ME IN MY FAMILY. WE'VE BEEN A FAMILY OF GOING TO ARCHERY TOURNAMENTS PROBABLY THE LAST EIGHT YEARS OR SO. AND OUR SON GRADUATED A COUPLE YEARS AGO. OUR DAUGHTER DROPPED OUT OF ARCHERY THIS PAST YEAR TO PURSUE CHEERLEADING, BUT OUR SON IS ACTUALLY RUNNING A PORTION OF THE PROGRAM, AND IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN SKILL, DISCIPLINE, PATIENCE, AND THE COMMUNITY OF ARCHERS. IT'S A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY TO BE A PART OF. DUNCANVILLE HAS THE POTENTIAL IN THIS PROGRAM, HAS THE POTENTIAL TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP AN ARCHERY TEAM, AND IT TAKES SOME COORDINATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO TRY IT OUT. IT'S TUESDAY NIGHTS, 6 TO 8, I BELIEVE, AND WE START GETTING PEOPLE UP THERE AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT AN ARCHERY TEAM COMPETING NEXT TO THAT. AFTER THAT, I JUST WANT TO MENTION THE RUN FOR THE WALL. I'LL BE MENTIONING A LOT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS OR COUPLE OF MEETINGS. IT'S A CROSS COUNTRY MOTORCYCLE RIDE THAT STARTS IN CALIFORNIA. IT ENDS AT THE MEMORIAL WALL IN WASHINGTON, DC. THEY COME THROUGH DUNCANVILLE ON SUNDAY, MAY 18TH, ABOUT 7 A.M. THERE'S A PARTIAL BRIDGE CLOSURE, AND IT'S A PRETTY MOVING, EXTREMELY MOVING EVENT. THE HIGHWAY JUST BECOMES CALM AND THEN STILL, AND THEN SLOWLY YOU START SEEING THESE MOTORCYCLES ROLL IN. IT'S VERY MOVING. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO BE THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. PENNEBAKER. MISS GOODEN, THANK YOU MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, CITY OF CHAMPIONS. HOW ARE YOU? I JUST COME ON THE MIC JUST TO MENTION TO YOU ABOUT PIP. SO SPRING 2025 PIP DAYS. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING. THOSE DATES ARE FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, APRIL 25TH AND 26TH AND MAY 2ND AND THIRD. IT'S A PROGRAM THAT I HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SOME HOUSES ARE. SOME RESIDENTS APPLIED TO HAVE THEIR HOUSES RENOVATED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION ON THE OUTSIDE, AND WE ARE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY AND HELP THOSE RESIDENTS MAKE REPAIRS TO THEIR HOMES THAT THEY'RE NORMALLY NOT ABLE TO DO FOR WHATEVER DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES. I KNOW OUR MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCBURNETT HAS BEEN PARTICIPATING IN IT FOR YEARS. WE HAVE MISS GAYLE SLAGER, WHO ALSO VOLUNTEERS FOR IT, SO IT IS REALLY A COMMUNITY EVENT WHERE WE COME OUT AND TAKE CARE OF ONE ANOTHER. SO IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE ON THE MORNINGS OF SATURDAY, APRIL 25TH AND APRIL 26TH, ALSO THE NEXT WEEKEND OF MAY 2ND AND MAY 3RD. PIP SPRING 2025. AND THERE WILL ALSO BE THE SAME PROGRAM HAPPEN AGAIN IN THE FALL OF THIS YEAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS PENNEBAKER. OKAY, YOU

[1.C. City Manager's Report.]

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[3. CITIZENS' INPUT]

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WE SAY PROBLEM LIKE MYSELF I WAS PROBLEMATIC. PROBLEMATIC. PEOPLE 18 AND ABOVE WANT TO TRAIN THEM IN THE CONSTRUCTION FIELD AND GET THEM OUT TO WORK. I MYSELF WAS ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT. I BUILT SEVERAL OF THE SCHOOLS OUT HERE IN DALLAS, SO I'M WELL AWARE OF A LOT OF THINGS THAT'S MISSING AS FAR AS THE TRADES. WE'VE HIRED CONTRACTORS AND LITERALLY THEY'RE FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO ON THE JOB. IT'S NOT A LOT OF TRAINING GOING ON, AND WE'RE MISSING A LOT OF ECONOMICS THAT COULD BE BROUGHT BACK INTO DUNCANVILLE BY HAVING OUR YOUTH 18 AND UP. THAT'S EVERYBODY FORGETS ABOUT TRAINED. AND I'M IN TOUCH WITH CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES. I'M DOING A WHOLE LOT ON MY END. PROBATION OFFICERS TRYING TO GET ALTERNATE TO GOING TO JAIL, TRYING TO HURRY UP AND GIVE A WHOLE LOT OF SPELLS. BUT EVERYONE'S GOING TO REALLY GET A FORMAL LETTER FROM ME. I'VE JUST BEEN KIND OF HITTING YOU UP AND JUST GIVING, LIKE, HEY, COME ON DOWN AND CHECK US OUT WHERE WE'RE AT. I WANT TO INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME ON DOWN TO 703 BIG STONE GAP ROAD, WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THERE AND WHAT WE ARE DOING, AND WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE WANT TO HELP THE ECONOMICS OF IT, WHICH IT WILL BE A BIG ECONOMIC BOOST FOR THE CITY, AS WELL AS PIP AND PART OF MY PROGRAM. WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND I'M TEACHING THEM IN THE FIELD, AND I WANT TO KNOW TARGET AREAS WE CAN WORK ON. LIKE I SAID, I'M A CONTRACTOR. I CAN BUILD A HOUSE FROM THE GROUND UP AND I'M AN ARTIST, SO I GET REAL CREATIVE. SO IT'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT BENEFITS TO HAVING THE SCHOOL FOUR, THREE, TWO, ONE THAT I WANT TO THANK YOU EVERYBODY JUST GIVING. HEY, HOW YOU DOING? I'M HERE. I'M NOT GOING NOWHERE. THANK YOU, SUSAN DAVIS. SUSAN DAVIS AT 119 FOREST COURT IN DUNCANVILLE. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE TO EXPRESS CONTINUED CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED REVISIONS TO ARTICLE TWO ANIMAL CONTROL. WHILE THIS REVISION WAS FRAMED AS ADDRESSING CONCERNS WITH THE PREVIOUS VERSION, IT STILL INCLUDES BURDENSOME, BURDENSOME AND EXCESSIVE PROVISIONS THAT DIRECTLY IMPACT RESPONSIBLE RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO KEEP BACKYARD HENS TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES. FIRST, THE ORDINANCE STILL GRANTS SWEEPING AUTHORITY TO THE LOCAL ANIMAL AUTHORITY.

OFFICIALS CAN CONDUCT INSPECTIONS AT THEIR DISCRETION, REVOKE PERMITS BASED SOLELY ON COMPLAINTS, AND SEIZE ANIMALS ALL WITH LIMITED OVERSIGHT OR CLEAR STANDARDS. THIS CONCENTRATION OF POWER LEAVES RESIDENTS VULNERABLE TO INCONSISTENT OR EVEN ARBITRARY ENFORCEMENT. SECOND, THE ORDINANCE IMPOSES AN ANNUAL PERMIT REQUIREMENT WITH EXCESSIVE RED TAPE PLANS, SITE DRAWINGS, NOTARIZED PERMISSIONS, AND INSPECTIONS, BUT THE ONGOING COST OF COMPLIANCE IS EVEN MORE TROUBLING. FAMILIES MUST MEET STRICT SETBACK DISTANCES UP TO 80FT AND PROVIDE FOUR SQUARE FEET OF COOP SPACE PER BIRD. BEDDING MUST BE CHANGED AT LEAST EVERY 48 HOURS. THAT'S TWO DAYS, WHICH ON AVERAGE COSTS AROUND 20 TO $25 A WEEK. THAT'S OVER $1,000 A YEAR JUST IN BEDDING. THIS IS A HARDSHIP FOR SOME OF OUR CITIZENS. THE ORDINANCE ALSO MANDATES WING CLIPPING REGARDLESS OF WHETHER BIRDS ARE SECURELY ENCLOSED, WHICH ADDS MORE LABOR STRESS AND POTENTIALLY VET COSTS. PLUS, THERE'S NO ALLOWANCE FOR OTHER FOOD BIRDS LIKE QUAIL OR DUCKS. AT A TIME OF RISING FOOD PRICES AND GROWING INTEREST IN SELF-SUFFICIENCY, THESE RULES CREATE UNNECESSARY BURDENS FOR RESIDENTS TRYING TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES. AS A REMINDER, OTHER CITIES LIKE HOUSTON, SAN ANTONIO AND EL PASO REGULATE HANDS EFFECTIVELY WITHOUT PERMITS, RELYING INSTEAD ON NUISANCE LAWS. WE REALLY DO RESPECTFULLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO ELIMINATE THE PERMIT REQUIREMENT, REMOVE EXCESSIVE MAINTENANCE MANDATES, AND REVISE ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES TO BETTER REFLECT COMMUNITY VALUES. THANK YOU,

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA BY COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT. SECOND BY.

COUNCILWOMAN GOODEN. PLEASE VOTE. THANK YOU. NOW, MOVING TO ITEM FIVE, ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL

[5.A. Take any necessary action as a result of the Executive Session. (Part 1 of 2)]

[5.B. Consider Resolution 2025-444 approving an incentive agreement by the Duncanville Community & Economic Development Corporation (DCEDC) with Duncanville Eats LLC in an amount not to exceed $4,330 for exterior signage at 700 S. Cockrell Hill Road, Suite #158, Duncanville, Texas 75137.]

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OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN CHERRY.

PLEASE VOTE. THANK YOU. AND OWNER CINDY JOHNSON WAS HERE TONIGHT TO REPRESENT THE BUSINESS. I WISH WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN SOONER. SORRY. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT INTRODUCING HER EARLIER.

I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK. OKAY. ITEM FIVE C. AMENDMENT TO INCENTIVE

[5.C. Consider Resolution 2025-443 approving an amendment of an incentive agreement by the Duncanville Community & Economic Development Corporation (DCEDC) with Dolani Investments, LLC located at 511 E Camp Wisdom Road, Duncanville, Texas 75116.]

YES. THANK YOU AGAIN. SO AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE LAST MEETING DURING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT QUARTERLY REPORT, WE WERE SEEKING TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE OUTSTANDING GRANTS THAT WE HAD FROM PREVIOUS YEARS. AND. THERE WERE. OUTSTANDING GRANT MONIES NOT YET REIMBURSED SPECIFICALLY.

SO WE HAD SENT OUT LETTERS TO THESE BUSINESS OWNERS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT OF TO KIND OF GET

[01:20:05]

HE DID COME FORWARD WITH A SECOND EXTENSION REQUEST FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE PAVING AND LANDSCAPING GRANTS THAT HE RECEIVED. THE ADDRESS, WHICH I APOLOGIZE, IS NOT LISTED ON HERE IS 511 EAST CAMP WISDOM ROAD. IT'S ROUGHLY ONE BLOCK EAST OF ORIOLE BOULEVARD, AND ASIDE FROM THE GRANT AWARDS, MR. DELANEY HAS INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THIS PROPERTY ALREADY TO IMPROVE IMPROVE THE FACADE. A COMPLETE REMODEL, INCLUDING NEW FRAMING AND ROOFING. HIS ORIGINAL AWARD WAS $208,610.97, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 13TH, 2023. HE JUST EXPERIENCED SOME SETBACKS AND SOME DELAYS AND AGAIN, JUST THE TIMING SINCE HE WAS AWARDED LANDSCAPING. LANDSCAPING CAN ONLY BE DONE AT A CERTAIN TIME OF THE YEAR SO THAT WHATEVER HE PLANS DOESN'T DIE. SO HE CAME BEFORE US AGAIN, AS MENTIONED, TO REQUEST THAT SECOND EXTENSION. HE WAS ALREADY REIMBURSED 40,000 FOR THE PAINT PORTION OF HIS GRANT, AND THAT WAS AWARDED LAST AUGUST, WHICH IS LEAVE LEAVES A REMAINING BALANCE OF 100,068 168 SIX, 1097, AND THE AMENDED INCENTIVE AGREEMENT WITH A PROJECT COMPLETION AND REIMBURSEMENT DEADLINE OF 90 DAYS. POST CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL WAS APPROVED BY THE DC EDC ON THEIR REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 24TH, 2025. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? WITH ANY PHOTOS INCLUDED IN THE IN YOUR PRESENTATION? NO. WE WERE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO GET SOME UPDATED PHOTOS, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO GET ANY. YEAH, I BELIEVE THIS WAS A PROPERTY THAT IN THE LAST MAYBE 5 OR 6 YEARS, HAS DONE A RENOVATION OF SOME SORT OUTSIDE. THEY DID AN OVERHEAD FACADE CONSTRUCTION, SO THEY'D ALREADY DONE QUITE A FEW IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY. YEAH. AND IT'S, IT LOOKS A LOT BETTER THAN IT HAS IN A LONG TIME. YES. IT COMPLETELY CHANGED THE COLOR OF THE PAINT, REDID THE ROOF, TOOK OFF THE OLD. STYLE AND JUST COMPLETELY REDID THE ENTIRE THING. SO IT LOOKS VERY MUCH DIFFERENT TODAY. OKAY. COUNCIL. ANYBODY? MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE? THERE WE GO. COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT MOTION TO APPROVE. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN PENNEBAKER. PLEASE VOTE. AND THE ONE THING AFTER THE FACT THAT REMIND ME AGAIN, HOW LONG WILL THIS EXTENSION BE FOR? SO HE WILL BE GIVEN 90 DAYS FROM TODAY'S DATE TO BEGIN TO COMPLETE. HE ALREADY HAS THE CONTRACTORS IN PLACE, SO HE'S READY TO GO AS LONG AS AS SOON AS HE GETS THE APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. SO WE MOVED TO. OKAY.

[6.A. Presentation from the Duncanville Police Department on revising Chapter Four—Animals and Fowl City Ordinance to comply with state legislation changes and best practices, and consideration for adoption.]

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[01:30:07]

IT'S THE CALL VOLUMES REGARDING THE CHICKENS AND THE ROOSTERS. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CHICKENS AND ROOSTERS. ROOSTERS IN DUNCANVILLE AND DUNCANVILLE IS A SMALL COMMUNITY, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE WHO OWN CHICKENS THAT TAKE CARE OF THEM, KEEP THEM CLEAN, DON'T LET THEM GET OUT. BUT WITH THAT, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN DUNCANVILLE THAT ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE, AND AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO TRY TO SET SOME TYPE OF LIMIT AND HAVE A CONTROL ON THINGS. AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF CHICKENS COMING INTO THE CITY AND THE AMOUNT OF ROOSTERS COMING INTO THE CITY. IT'S ABOUT A QUALITY OF LIFE THING. SOME SOMETIMES PEOPLE AREN'T HAPPY AND THEY JUST DON'T SAY ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE WILL, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE ROOSTERS THAT WAKE THEM UP EARLY IN THE MORNING, BUT THEY'RE AFRAID TO COME AND SAY ANYTHING. SO, OKAY, YOU SAID CALL VOLUME. AND I THINK I ALSO ASKED, WHAT ARE THE CALLS THAT ARE COMING IN REGARDING CHICKENS, AND WHAT WERE THE VIOLATIONS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IN THAT HIGH CALL VOLUME? IS IT IS IT A BREAKDOWN OF THE TYPE OF CALLS THAT WE'RE RECEIVING? THERE'S A HIGH CALL VOLUME. I DON'T HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE CALLS. THE I LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE CALLS CAN BE FOR ANYTHING. THEY CAN BE FOR NOISE. THEY CAN BE MY NEIGHBOR'S CHICKENS ARE OUT. THEY COULD BE THERE'S CHICKENS IN THE ROAD. THEY IT COULD BE ANY, ANY, ANYTHING. WHEN SHE DID, WHEN SHE CREATED THE SEARCH TO PUT THE NUMBERS TOGETHER, SHE DID IT WITH THE WORDS FOWL, CHICKENS, HENS AND ROOSTERS. SO THAT'S WHERE SHE GOT THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT INVOLVED ONE OF THOSE ITEMS. SO THE CALLS COULD BE FOR ANYTHING. OKAY. AND HERE'S MY CONCERN WITH THAT. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE HIGH CALL VOLUME, BUT IF I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE VIOLATION THAT WE ARE INTENDING TO ADDRESS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IMPACT WILL HAVE ON THOSE WHO ARE NOT HAVING THOSE ISSUES. SO

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WELL ONE, IT'S A JUDGMENT CALL INITIALLY BY THE OWNER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. AND YOU WOULD ONLY BE INVOLVED IF THERE WAS A COMPLAINT THAT, THAT THERE WAS A SMELL COMING FROM IT IS DOES THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. AND THE SECOND QUESTION, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER LIGHTS ON. THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS THE PROCESS I, I SAW ON YOUR SLIDESHOW THAT YOU HAVE YOU HAVE. OFFICIALLY NAMED THE BOARD OF APPEALS FOR ANYTHING WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE. WHAT ARE YOU CALLING THAT. IT WAS ON ONE OF YOUR SLIDES. IT WAS THE WE CHANGED IT TO THE ANIMAL APPEALS BOARD. OKAY. THE ANIMAL APPEAL BOARD. SO ANYBODY THAT HAD WAS LOOKING FOR AN EXCEPTION COULD GO TO THE ANIMAL APPEALS BOARD AND TALK TO THEM RIGHT OVER WHATEVER IT IS. I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT CHICKENS. IT COULD BE DOGS, CATS, CHICKENS, BUT THEY CAN GO TO THAT BOARD, GO BEFORE THAT BOARD AS AN APPEAL PROCESS OF APPEAL DOESN'T GUARANTEE THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE FAVORABLE DECISION, BUT IT'S SET UP THAT WAY. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. CHIEF STOGNER, YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING? YEAH. NO NO, NO THEY'RE FINE. SO ULTIMATELY UNDER ANY DIRECTION FROM THE HEALTH AUTHORITY, WHICH WOULD BE ME IF I DENY A PERMIT, THAT PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO A TO APPEAL IT. ULTIMATELY HOW IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, IT'S APPEALED TO A BOARD WHICH INCLUDES ME WHO INITIALLY REJECTED IT, AND THE FIRE CHIEF AND I BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER. SO WHEN WE INITIALLY DID THIS WITH THE GOAT SEVERAL YEARS AGO OR LAST YEAR, THAT WAS THAT KIND OF PUSHED US TO CHANGE AND REVISE THIS ORDINANCE TO BEST PRACTICES, LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THEY CHANGED IT.

SO THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL A DECISION BASED OFF WHAT I SAY, YES OR NO, APPROVE OR DENY IT AFTER AFTER THE BOARD HEARS IT, IT THEN CURRENTLY COMES TO YOU ALL TO HEAR THE ARGUMENT. ESSENTIALLY TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER YOU UPHOLD MY DENIAL OR APPROVE IT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CHANGING TO WHERE IT NOW WOULD, UPON Y'ALL'S APPROVAL, GO TO THE BOARD AND STAY AWAY FROM THE COUNCIL. DID WE REMEMBER IT'S COMING BACK TO US. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. NO I REMEMBER SOPHIE'S CHOICE. IT WAS THAT WAS A TERRIBLE THING. BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING AWAY AND. WELL, THE WAY IT'S SET UP, YOU DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR ANIMAL APPEALS. IT'S NOT REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR YOU SINCE YOU PASSED THE ORDINANCE. SO WE SET UP THE APPEAL BOARD, SET STANDARDS, AND SO THEY GET TO HEAR THE PERMIT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICE CHIEF'S NOT BEING ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS, THAT HE BASE IT ON HEALTH, SIZE, NUMBER. I MEAN, YOU HAVE I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHICKENS, BUT WE HAVE LIMITS ON OTHER ANIMALS, OKAY? YOU CAN ONLY HAVE SO MANY DOGS. YOU CAN ONLY HAVE SO MANY CATS. YOU CAN ONLY HAVE SO MANY MINIATURE DONKEYS OR

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THANK YOU, MR. PENNEBAKER. I'M GOING TO TRY TO DRILL DOWN INTO COUNCILWOMAN GOODEN'S QUESTION HERE A LITTLE BIT AND PUT AIKO CHAMBERLAIN ON THE SPOT HERE. SO YOU'RE THE GUY GOING OUT ON ALL THE CHICKEN CALLS? YOU HAVE A BEST GUESS WHAT THOSE WHAT THOSE ARE PERCENTAGE WISE ROOSTERS.

YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF ROOSTER CALLS. IT'S A NOISE. NOISE COMPLAINT. MORE THAN HALF, MAYBE MORE THAN HALF ROOSTERS. YEAH. AND IF WE ELIMINATED HALF OF THE ROOSTERS WE ELIMINATE AT LEAST HALF THE PROBLEM FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. ESSENTIALLY, YEAH. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. JUST A REMINDER. WE AS A COUNCIL AGREED TO REMOVE OR TO ASK YOU TO REMOVE THE FENCE REQUIREMENT, THE SIX FOOT FENCE REQUIREMENT WHICH, WHICH HAS BEEN REMOVED AND ALSO TO REMOVE THE FEE, ANY PERMIT FEE. SO ESSENTIALLY IT JUST LEAVES THE PERMIT IS SOLELY SO YOU HAVE A DATABASE OF PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, HAVE ANIMALS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. NO OTHER IT DOESN'T DOESN'T KICK IN ANNUAL INSPECTIONS OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST STRICTLY A DATABASE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. KUNTZ. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO JUST ANOTHER FOLLOW UP WITH THE QUESTION ABOUT OR JUST A COMMENT ABOUT THE ROOSTERS. AND I MADE THIS POINT DURING OUR WORKSHOP IS WE DO HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE. AND SO I GUESS, WOULDN'T THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NOISE WITH THE ROOSTERS BE COVERED WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE? AND SO THAT'S THAT'S JUST ONE COMMENT THAT I'M MAKING THERE. AND THEN WHAT'S PRESENTED TO US RIGHT NOW, DOES IT ALLOW FOR FOWL OUTSIDE OF CHICKENS. SO HENS OR DUCKS OR GEESE OR ANY OTHER KIND OF WINGED FEATHERED CREATURES WAS THAT ARE THEY ALLOWED UNDER WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO US NOW? THE ONLY THING THAT WAS PUT IN THE ORDINANCE WAS BACKYARD FOWL. AND I THINK HE DEFINED IT. HE CHICKENS. SO HE'S NO COMMENTS.

OKAY, SO JUST CHICKENS THEN BASED ON WHAT'S PRESENTED TO US, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT I KNOW OF RAISING DUCKS, GEESE OR MAYBE. MY THERE ARE SO AND THEN SO WE ARE. WHAT'S PRESENTED DOES STILL REQUIRE A PERMIT FEE. THAT'S THAT'S STILL IN THERE. PERMIT FEE. NO. NO SIR. NO, NO FEE FOR THE PERMIT. NO. OKAY. REMEMBER IN THE WORKSHOP THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT IN THE WORKSHOP. OKAY. YOU STILL GOT TO GET A PERMIT. JUST NO FEE. YES. OKAY. AND YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BAN ROOSTERS. AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT AND HOW THEY WERE THE MAJORITY OF THE PROBLEM. BUT THE COUNCIL DID NOT WANT TO BAN ROOSTERS. NOW, I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE SPOKEN TO A COUPLE OF CITIZENS AND THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE CHICKEN OWNERS, BUT THEY, THEY WERE REALLY OKAY WITH BANNING ROOSTERS. AND IF YOU RECALL, THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE TO YOU ALL ABOUT HIS LITTLE DAUGHTER THAT HAD THE THREE CHICKENS, HE SPOKE TO ME AFTER THE WORKSHOP. HE ONLY HAS TWO NOW BECAUSE ONE TURNED OUT TO BE A ROOSTER AND GOT REALLY AGGRESSIVE WITH HIM, SO HE HAD TO GET RID OF HIM. SO YEAH, WHICH WE EXPLAINED IN THE WORKSHOP THAT ROOSTERS ARE A BIG PROBLEM. AND THEN AND YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY I DO REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT WHAT Y'ALL AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S FIFTH OR SIXTH TIME YOU'VE HAD TO PRESENT THIS TO US. I HOPE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US JUST TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT SO YOU CAN THEN I KNOW WHATEVER WE DECIDE, THEN YOU'RE JUST GOING TO GET TO WORK

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BUT EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT. SO YOU JUST WANT TO BE IN POSITION TO HANDLE THINGS THE BEST YOU CAN, THE RIGHT WAY AND AVOID SOME SITUATIONS IF YOU CAN. AND WITH THE RIGHT ORDINANCE, YOU CAN AVOID SOME SITUATIONS. RIGHT. AND DO YOU THINK WE NEED A ROOSTER SURVEY? JUST KIDDING. APRIL FOOL'S. YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW IT UP WITH APRIL FOOLS. YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE FACED WITH AND IT'S TRUE WITH BARKING DOGS TOO. REST ASSURED, AS SOON AS THEY GET OUT THERE, THE ROOSTER WILL STOP CROWING. AND UNTIL YOU HAVE AN OFFICER OR THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER CAN ACTUALLY WITNESS AND MAKE TESTIMONY TO THE FACT THAT THAT ROOSTER WAS CROWING AT A PARTICULAR TIME. AND I THINK YOU PROBABLY NEED A COUPLE OF THOSE BEFORE YOU COULD. BUT BY NOT HAVING ROOSTERS ALLOWED, YOU'VE ELIMINATED THAT PROBLEM, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAVE CITY MANAGER EXPLAIN TO US WHERE WE GO FROM HERE ON THIS ITEM? OH I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME, MAYOR. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS POINT, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL DIRECTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THE ATTORNEY, AND THEN WE WILL BRING THIS ORDINANCE BACK TO YOU FOR A VOTE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. I MUST SAY NEAR FUTURE, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE YET. BUT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. OKAY, ON THAT NOTE, WHAT WHAT ROUTE WOULD YOU SUGGEST THAT A COUNCIL PERSON REPORT THIS? ANY ANY CONCERNS OR CHANGES? OR, IF I MAY, MAYOR, TO BE HONEST, WE'VE CHANGED THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE. YES, SIR. AND WE HAVE DENIED OURSELVES THE ABILITY TO STREAMLINE OUR ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HOLDING THIS THING. BECAUSE THE CHICKENS, IF YOU STILL WANT TO CONTEMPLATE THE CHICKEN PORTION, THAT'S ONE SECTION OF THIS

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ADOPTION. YEAH. AND WE WANTED ONE MORE CHANGE BECAUSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED. BASICALLY. YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE DIFFERENT WITH CHICKENS AND THERE'S BEEN THIS BIRD FLU SCARE. AND I'VE ACTUALLY MY HOMETOWN IN MICHIGAN, THEY HAD AN OUTBREAK OF BIRD FLU IN BACKYARD CHICKENS. AND SO AND I READ ABOUT THAT. IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO, IT'S IN LANSING. YOU CAN READ IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE CONCERN AND HAS CONCERN FOR THE OWNERS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THEIR BIRDS TO GET BIRD FLU AND IT SCARES OTHER PEOPLE. SO THEN HERE WE ARE AGAIN, AND WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOU JUST ONE MORE TIME. IF THERE'S A SMALL TWEAK THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE, WE'D RATHER MAKE IT THAN BRING IT BACK JUST SO IT CAN BE PASSED.

SO OKAY. AND I HAVE THERE'S TWO MORE QUESTIONS OUT THERE THAT I'LL GET TO IN A SECOND. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT TONIGHT THE PRESENTATION IS COMPLETE. THEY CAME BACK, HAVE CONFIRMED ALL THE CHANGES THAT WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY. AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO NEXT IS GET THIS ON AN AGENDA TO VOTE ON. SO WITH THAT, COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT, I THINK YOU'RE ON FIRST. THANK

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SO. OKAY VOTING. YEAH I JUST TONIGHT WE'RE OKAY BACK. SO I'M ALMOST YOU SAID THAT AT THE AT THE WORKSHOP I WAS I WAS SMILING AT THE WORKSHOP. ALL RIGHT. THANK Y'ALL. OKAY WITH THAT.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 2 of 2)]

[5.A. Take any necessary action as a result of the Executive Session. (Part 2 of 2)]

AND WITH THAT, THERE WAS A MOTION. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE VIDEO. SO AS A RESULT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, I WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER A MOTION TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE JESPERSENS REGARDING 302 NORTH MAIN STREET AND TERMINATE THAT AGREEMENT AND RETURN THE EARNEST MONEY IN THE AMOUNT OF $7,500.

YES. AND WITH THAT I HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE. THAT WAS COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT SECOND BY COUNCILMAN PENNEBAKER, AND THE VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS. YES. SO AGAIN, UNANIMOUS IN FAVOR OF TERMINATING THE AGREEMENT. CORRECT. AND IN RETURN OF THE EARNEST MONEY. AND THERE WAS NO FURTHER ACTION AS A RESULT OF EITHER EXECUTIVE SESSION. YOU MAY ADJOURN. PERIOD. ADJOURNED

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.