Mar 25, 2025 Arts Commission

OTHER? YES, YES. YES, INDEED. GOOD TO SEE YOU. ALL RIGHT. IT'S 630. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL

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[2. Receive public comments, limit 2 minutes per individual speaker]

IT'S FROM LIZETTE BELL AT 1019 MEADOW RUN DRIVE IN DUNCANVILLE. SEVEN FIVE, 137. THERE'S A MURAL ON THE CORNER OF DANIEL DALE AND COCKRELL HILL. ONE OF THE FAMILIES PICTURED THERE IS MISSING THEIR FACES. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE IT FINISHED. THANK YOU. SO IS THAT INTENTIONAL? DO WE KNOW? NO. WE KNOW EVERYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT IT. WE'VE BEEN MEANING TO FIX IT FOR 2 OR 3 YEARS NOW. OKAY. SO THIS IS OUR MANDATE NOW. NOW, NOW THEY HAVE A MANDATE. WE'RE GOING TO GO

[3. The Arts Commission to consider the following Minutes]

[4.a. Arts Calendar]

ANGELA, DO YOU HAVE A COMMISSIONER'S REPORT? MET WITH DEVIN, AND I GUESS WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER. ABOUT THE.& BLOOM FEST. WITH MYSELF AND AMY. AND THEN I THINK I HAVE JUNETEENTH UNTIL LATER. BRIAN. THANK YOU. YES. AND THEN. ATTENDED THE CITY HALL MEETING WHERE YOU GAVE YOUR BRIEFING, WHICH WAS VERY GOOD. AND KUDOS TO THE GENTLEMAN WITH THE AUDIT REPORT. I GOT A LOT OF PRAISES FOR THAT. AND THAT WAS ABOUT IT FOR RIGHT NOW. THANKS, ANGELA.

YEAH, WELL, I MET WITH AMY AND ANGELA WITH DEVIN. IT WAS A DELIGHTFUL MEETING, AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT DOING A ROCK PROJECT, WHICH WE CAN DO AFFORDABLY THROUGH THEIR BUDGET, AND WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF OTHER POSSIBILITIES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL WILL COME OF IT, BUT IT WAS A GREAT MEETING. AND THEN MARIANNE AND I MET WITH THE LIBRARY COMMITTEE THAT'S DOING THIS CHILDREN'S READING. LAUNCH IN MAY, JUNE, JUNE. THEY HAVE TO ANNOUNCE IT IN MAY. AND WE HAD A GOOD MEETING AND WE CAME UP WITH A PROJECT AND THEN AND A BUDGET WAS DISCUSSED. BUT THEN ALEX, SO WONDERFULLY CAME IN TO ADVISE THEM THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO MONEY AT THAT TIME FOR THAT PURPOSE, AND HE CAN EXPLAIN IT BETTER. BUT ANYWAY, IT WAS A GREAT MEETING. VERY THERE'S A LOT OF COLLABORATION HAPPENING. AND I ALSO ATTENDED THE WRITER'S GROUP, WHICH MARIANNE FACILITATES AT THE LIBRARY, AND THAT WAS GREAT. THANKS, ANN. TIM. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO USE MY TWO MINUTES TO SING. I WOULD RESPOND, REALLY IN A, IN A IN A POSITIVE WAY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THE MURAL. I'M SURPRISED NO ONE SAID ANYTHING SOONER SINCE WE STOPPED WORK ON IT IN 2020, JUST AS THE PANDEMIC HIT. WE HAD ALMOST HAD IT FINISHED, ALMOST COMPLETED. AND THEN AFTER THE PERIOD OF THE PANDEMIC, WE JUST NEVER REGROUPED. AND IT WAS THE DUNCANVILLE DESIGN GROUP, WHICH IS AN INFORMAL GROUP THAT WAS ASKED BY CITY COUNCIL TO, TO WORK WITH AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN HIS DISTRICT TO CREATE THE WALL. AND CURTIS WORKED WITH US. CURTIS FERGUSON WAS THE PRIMARY ARTIST, AND THOSE ARE ACTUALLY HIS FOLKS.

AND I KNOW OCCASIONALLY WE TALK ABOUT MAYBE JUMPING IN OUR CARS AND GRABBING SOME PAINT AND GOING BACK AND PUTTING FACES ON SOME OF THOSE FOLKS. BUT ANYWAY. THANKS, TIM. DO YOU HOLD OUT YOUR VIDEO? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. MARIANNE. THANK YOU. DIDN'T SEE IT. THE. MAY WE RESPOND TO HER?

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IT'S THE EMAIL HERE OR HOW WOULD WE RESPOND? PERFECT. JUST WRITE A LETTER OR EMAIL. HER EMAIL IS THERE OR IT'S ON THE RECORD. SO. YOU GUYS CAN DECIDE. MARIANNE. OKAY. YEAH. THE COMMENT IT'S JUST COMMENTS. SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY ACTION ITEMS BECAUSE THEY'RE A COMMENT SUBMITTED TO THE GROUP, WHICH YOU CAN BRING BACK IN A FUTURE AGENDA. DEFINITELY. BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN JUST KIND OF WANT TO TAKE IN FOR NOW. BUT IT SHOULD, AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'S FOR US TO ACTION. MARIANNE? YES. OKAY. WELL, AS YOU KNOW, I AM A MUSICIAN AND I SAY PRACTICING MUSICIAN, BUT THAT'S A LITTLE IRONIC. I DO SOMETIMES RECORD. ANYWAY, THIS IS MY MUSIC FRATERNITY'S INTERNATIONAL MAGAZINE, OF WHICH I HAVE THE LEAD ARTICLE THIS MONTH. AND HOLD ON. THANK YOU. I'M PLEASED WITH IT. THE FRATERNITIES HAD A CONCERT SERIES DOWN AT THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY, THE MAINLAND AND OTHERS FOR DECADES. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

THE SECOND THING, I WAS AT A TEACHERS CONFERENCE EARLIER THIS MONTH, AND SO A SECTION OF MY POEMS WERE SELECTED FOR PUBLICATION, ONE OF WHICH WAS MY SUBMISSION FOR LAST YEAR'S COMMON LANGUAGE PROJECT. THIS IS THIS YEAR'S 30 WORDS WITH THE ASSOCIATED RULES, WHICH ARE, I DON'T KNOW, HORRIBLE. BUT ANYWAY, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THOSE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT. VERY WELL DONE. THANK YOU. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT IT? IS IT THE VIRTUES ONE OR DIFFERENT? NO.

THIS IS THE ONE AT THE WRITER'S GARRET. IT'S A IT'S AN INTERESTING EXERCISE. HER POEM IS STARTED. MINE'S FINISHED, BUT NOT VERY GOOD. SO WE ARE WORKING ON IT. A FRIEND HAS HAS COMPLETED AND ASKED PEOPLE TO READ IT. SO AWESOME. CONGRATULATIONS. CONSIDER IT.

THANK YOU. AMY. YES, ANN AND ANGELA AND I HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH DEVIN. WE DISCUSSED A LOT OF THINGS. THE ROCKS. WE ALSO DISCUSSED HAVING A COMMUNITY PAINT AREA AND THE USE OF EASELS AND PAINTS AND BUYING THOSE AND BUDGETING THOSE. WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE HAVE THE APPLICATION FOR THE FUNDING, SO WE EXPECT IT NOT TO BE TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE, MAYBE $500, BUT BUT WE'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE. AND WE ARE WE HAVE ABOUT 10 OR 12 EASELS. THEY'RE BRAND NEW. SO IF YOU NEED EASELS OR EASELS, THEN DUNCANVILLE COMMUNITY THEATER OPENED A SHOW LAST WEEK TO ROUSING SUCCESS. WE WERE FULL. I REALLY EVERY PERFORMANCE. THE SMALLEST HOUSE WAS SATURDAY NIGHT. WE WERE STILL THREE QUARTERS FULL, TURNING PEOPLE AWAY ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND ON FRIDAY AND SUNDAY. AND WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO SOLD OUT FOR THIS WEEKEND AS WELL. WE HAVE A FEW SEATS LEFT FOR THURSDAY AND A FEW SEATS LEFT FOR SATURDAY, SO I'M PLEASED ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND THAT'S IT. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'LL PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEE POLICIES MEETING THAT WE HAD, SO I'LL LEAVE THAT FOR LATER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IS, IS BE LISTENERS, AS WE ARE IN THIS MEETING, LISTENING TO EACH OTHER, BUT ALSO LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. SO THIS ONE IS, WILL YOU LISTEN? EXCUSE ME? WHISPERED WORDS INSIDE THE CHAOS CATCH UPON THOSE LISTENING EARS.

SWEETEST SOUNDS WITHIN THE CLAMOR OR THE SEEKING YEARN TO HEAR. OH, MY HEART HAS LONGED TO LISTEN. TO CAPTURE STRAINS UPON THOSE WINDS, JOYOUS SOUNDS TO STRENGTHEN HEARTS FOR THE MINSTREL SET TO SING. SOON THE TUNE WILL FILL THE YEARNING. SEIZE THE HOPE WITHIN THE SONG BLESSED SOUNDS DEFYING TUMULT. SORRY TUMULT. FOR THE PILGRIMS ON THEIR QUEST. WHISPERED WORDS FOR THOSE WHO LISTEN. GRAB ON TO THOSE QUIET NOTES. DULCET SOUNDS TO MAKE THE HEART SING FOR THE BROKEN ON THEIR PATH. WE HAVE A POET LAUREATE. DO Y'ALL? I'M GOING TO GO MOVE ON TO ITEM 4AI DON'T HAVE A REPORT. ARTS CALENDAR. OKAY, AS AMY MENTIONED, HER PLAY LAUNCHED LAST WEEKEND. IT ALSO CONTINUES THIS NEXT WEEKEND. I HAVE ON THE CALENDAR THERE WAS A CONCERT IN THE PARK, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT HAPPENED. MAYBE. ANYWAY. TIFFANY'S BIRTHDAY IS THE 30TH

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[5. Arts Fund Briefing with Richard Jackson, Managing Director of Fiscal Services, CFO]

MR. JACKSON, THE ARTS COMMISSION HAS A SUBCOMMITTEE WHOSE PURPOSE IS TO DO THE LEGWORK, LEGWORK TO FIND OUT WHAT ARE THE BEST PRACTICES IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND HOW THEY DISTRIBUTE FUNDS. MR. HAMBY PUT TOGETHER A REALLY ROBUST PACKAGE THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER. BUT OSTENSIBLY, WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE WAS, IS THAT THERE WAS AN APPLICATION THAT EVERYONE GETS VETTED THROUGH THE SAME APPLICATION, THAT THERE'S A QUARTERLY FUNDING CYCLE SO THAT WE SAW A BREADTH OF ACTIVITY. AND THEN, OF COURSE, METRICS THAT MAKE IT EASY TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT OF FUNDING IS. THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION AT THE END OF THIS MEETING. BUT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT MR. JACKSON COME BECAUSE GENERALLY, MOST MUNICIPALITIES, WHEN THEY'RE DOING FUNDING, PARTICULARLY THEIR ARTS COMMISSIONS, THEY WORK CLOSELY WITH FINANCE. IT'S ALL BUDGETARY ACTIVITY. SO, MR. JACKSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, IF YOU COULD, TO EXPLAIN TO THE ARTS COMMISSION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WAY THAT MONEY COMES IN, THE WAY IT GOES OUT, AND WHAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. GOOD EVENING. AGAIN, JUST TO BRIEFLY INTRODUCE MYSELF, MY NAME IS RICHARD JACKSON. AS RON HAS ALREADY EXPLAINED, I AM THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF FISCAL SERVICES SLASH CFO FOR THE GREAT CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. WHAT DOES ALL OF THAT MEAN? WELL, WITHIN THE FISCAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT, IT COVERS OUR FISCAL ADMIN SLASH ACCOUNTING DIVISION, OUR BUDGET OFFICE, OUR PROCUREMENT OFFICE, AS WELL AS MUNICIPAL COURT AND UTILITY BILLING. SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT MAKE UP OUR FISCAL SERVICES. SO AND I'VE BEEN IN THE ROLE SINCE MID DECEMBER OF 2023. SO ABOUT 15 MONTHS IN THE ROLE NEW TO TEXAS.

EARLIER IN 2023, I HAD RELOCATED WITH MY FAMILY FROM THE GREAT STATE OF OHIO. SO I LEFT MY

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BUT, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE A PUBLIC ENTITY AND OUR GOVERNANCE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION, THEY IN TURN ARE PRIVATE. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY AS FORTHCOMING WITH A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION THAT MAKES SENSE. THE REASON I, THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS IT IS TO OUR ADVANTAGE. THE MORE WE CAN BRING PEOPLE TO THESE HOTELS, THE BIGGER THE FUND WILL GROW, RIGHT? IF WE CAN, IN THE COURSE OF A YEAR, HAVE A 90% OCCUPANCY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THEN THAT FUND WILL GROW LARGE AND THAT WE HAVE A DIRECT TIE IN TO THAT, BECAUSE WHAT WE CAN DO CAN BRING TOURISM INTO THE INTO THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU GUYS HAD ANY STATISTICS ON, SURE, 50% OF THE ROOMS LAST YEAR WERE OCCUPIED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I HAVE AN ACCOUNTING QUESTION. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOT REVENUE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE FUND WAS SEEDED WITH. BUT EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE OTHER KINDS OF FUND REVENUE IN THERE THAT WON'T HAVE THE STRINGS. THAT HOT REVENUE HAS. AND CAN YOU BRIEFLY EXPLAIN ACCOUNTING AND FINANCE SO THAT, LET'S SAY, TWO ARTS COMMISSIONS FROM NOW HAVE A VERY ROBUST ARTS FUND? HOW DO YOU OR DO YOU HELP FUTURE COMMISSIONS DETERMINE, OKAY, THIS IS HOT. ONLY YOU CAN USE THIS MONEY FOR THIS. THIS MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR THIS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN IS THERE IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU GUYS ORGANIZE THAT IN ACCOUNTING? YES. IF WE HAVE LIKE WHETHER IT'S DONATION OR ADDITIONAL STREAMS OF REVENUE, THOSE LIKE SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE'RE MAKING THE TRANSACTION. AND IN THE SYSTEM WE TYPICALLY PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE, THE IN THIS CASE THE TRANSFER OR WHAT THE INCOMING MONIES ARE FOR. SO WE CAN VERY EASILY DETERMINE HOW MUCH OF THE FUNDS ARE MADE UP BASED ON HOT FUNDS OR HOW MUCH ARE MADE OF UP FROM OTHER ADDITIONAL STREAMS OF REVENUE, WHETHER IT BE DONATIONS OR GRANTS. YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO TO THAT POINT, RON, THE ACCOUNTING PIECE OF IT IS OUR ABILITY TO QUICKLY SHOW FOR THIS BODY WHAT THE BREAKDOWN IS, BECAUSE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND FROM THE HOT FUNDS, THEY CAN ONLY BE USED FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES VERSUS A DONATION THAT COULD BE USED FOR ANYTHING, AS LONG AS IT'S IN THE RELATION FOR THE WORK OF THIS COMMISSION OR A GRANT THAT IS USED FOR, YOU KNOW, A SPECIFIC PROGRAM OR A SPECIFIC EVENT OR SEQUENCE OF EVENTS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. SO WHEN WE MAKE THE ACCOUNTING TRANSACTION IN THE ARTS FUND, WE SO TYPICALLY THE ACCOUNTANTS PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION SO THAT WE KNOW SO THAT IF WE'RE ASKED WE CAN EASILY DELINEATE OR BREAK OUT WHAT PORTION IS RELATED TO HOT FUNDS OR ANY OTHER STREAMS OF

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THERE IT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE YES, I GUESS SHORT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. YES. HOW THAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR. BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CASH THAT THE CITY OPERATES IN, IT'S PART OF WHAT WE CALL POOLED CASH. SO IT HELPS US FROM AN INTEREST STANDPOINT. WE JUST HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR WHAT PERCENTAGE GOES TO EACH PARTICULAR FUND. OKAY. SO THE ARTS FUND WOULD BE POOLED WITH OTHER FUNDS. CORRECT? OKAY. CORRECT. AND SO IT WILL BE FOR ACCOUNTING PURPOSES. IT'S SEPARATE. IT'S SEPARATED. AND IT CAN BE IT CAN BE INDIVIDUALIZED FROM A BANK ACCOUNT PERSPECTIVE.

BUT AGAIN WHEN LOOKING AT INTEREST THE LARGER THE LARGER BALANCE THAT IS PULLING FOR INTEREST CAN LEAD TO MORE DOLLARS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. SO AT ANY RATE, FROM THE ACCOUNTING STANDPOINT IT'LL ALWAYS BE SEPARATE OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOVERNED TO DO BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY A FUND THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT SEPARATION IN TERMS OF WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS THE BALANCE OR REVENUE EXPENDITURE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ART FUND, JUST LIKE WE WOULD DO FOR GENERAL FUND OR, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE OTHER FUNDS THAT THE CITY HAS. AND I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION. THIS IS SPECIFIC TO CONVERSATIONS WE HAD DURING OUR SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND IS THE SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES THAT MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAD ARTS COMMISSIONS DOING, THEY WERE DOING QUARTERLY GRANT CYCLES, AND THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO BE STRATEGIC. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE. SO IF RATHER THAN WHOEVER COMES FIRST GETS THE MONEY, IT'S WE GET TO LOOK AT A CONTINUUM OF, OF APPLICANT, OF APPLICATIONS THAT WOULD DETERMINE WHAT THE NEED IS IN THE COMMUNITY AND BASED ON THE NEED. THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK, IS THERE A KIND OF CAPACITY DEVELOPMENT OR CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE TO, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL? UNDERNEATH THIS? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SAID, LIKE EVERYONE WAS LIKE, YEAH, WE GET IT, WE GET IT. BUT IS THERE A WAY TO ACCESS FUNDING QUICKLY? SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A QUARTERLY CYCLE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A REVIEW PROCESS AND THERE'S GOING TO BE WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. THEN IT'S RECOMMENDED TO CITY COUNCIL. CITY COUNCIL HAS A CONVERSATION.

THEN IT GOES TO CITY HALL FOR ACCOUNTING AND FOR YOU GUYS TO TAKE CONTROL. SO IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE FAST ACCESS TO CASH IF SOMETHING CAME UP IN AN ORGANIZATION OR THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY FUND IN THE ARTS OR SOMETHING, AND SOMEBODY NEEDED FAST ACCESS, IS THAT POSSIBLE? I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT SEGUE INTO, I GUESS, PART TWO OF THE DISCUSSION THAT I WAS WANTING TO HAVE WITH THIS GROUP, AND THAT'S ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE REVENUE SIDE, BECAUSE THAT I THINK GETS INTO PART OF THE EXPENDITURE SIDE AS WELL. RIGHT? SO WHEN THIS BODY IS LOOKING AT WHAT THE FUND BALANCE IS OR WHAT AVAILABLE FUNDS ARE FROM THE ARTS FUND TO USE. AGAIN THIS YEAR, SPECIFICALLY, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR OF ESTABLISHING THE FUND. AND SO YOU WOULD WANT TO ESTABLISH HAVING A FUND BALANCE OF A NUMBER, CERTAINLY TO BE DETERMINED BY THIS GROUP AT THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THE REASON BEING IS, IS SO THAT YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO AWARD GOING INTO FISCAL YEAR 26, FOR EXAMPLE, AND YOU'RE NOT WAITING ON THE NEXT QUARTERLY TRANSFER TO COME IN.

SO WITH THAT, I THINK YOUR IDEA THAT YOU WOULD JUST LAY IT OUT IN TERMS OF A QUARTERLY FUNDING CYCLE, THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK FROM AN ANNUAL STANDPOINT, YOU BASED ON THE AVAILABLE OR, EXCUSE ME, THE PROJECTED REVENUE TO COME INTO THE FUND TO HELP BUILD OUT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WHAT HOW MUCH OF THE FUNDS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEND, HOW MUCH FUND BALANCE YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE REMAINING IN THE FUND AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR? AND SO OF THAT TOTAL POOL, IT CAN BE

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CERTAINLY THE INITIAL NUMBERS HAVE NOT COME BACK WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY A PROJECTED NUMBER FOR WHAT'S COMING IN FOR HIGH FUNDS, AND THEN CONSEQUENTLY, THE 15% THAT WOULD GO TO THE ARTS FUND.

BUT IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT WHEN HAVING THAT CONVERSATION, IF YOU JUST USED 2025 AS A BASELINE AND SAID, OKAY, IF WE HAD AT AT THE VERY LEAST A SIMILAR FUNDING AMOUNT FOR 2026, THAT AT LEAST THAT CAN, AGAIN, FROM A BASELINE PERSPECTIVE, HELP TO ESTABLISH HOW MUCH YOU ALL ARE LOOKING TO SPEND ON THE 2026 BUDGET. BUT AGAIN, HAVING THAT FUND BALANCE IS GOING TO BE KEY FROM DOLLARS ACTUALLY GOING OUT THE DOOR FROM THE BUDGET IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BEING ENCUMBERED. AND RIGHT NOW THAT THAT NUMBER CAN BE. SO IF LET ME BACK UP FOR A SECOND, I APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW. THE BUDGET EXPENDITURE TOTAL IS $50,000. IF THIS GROUP DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED THE NUMBER TO BE $75,000, RIGHT, THEN IT WOULD JUST BE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEN TURNS INTO, YOU KNOW, A LEGISLATION, A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PASSED BY THE COUNCIL TO SAY THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT

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GOTCHA. THAT'S TAYLOR. YES, MA'AM. YES. CAN I REFRAME WHAT HE WAS ASKING HAVING TO DO WITH SPEED? FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETHING WAS PRESENTED TO US, A REQUEST. BUT ON EVEN SLIDE EXAMINATION, IT WAS GOING TO TAKE MONTHS OF PLANNING. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING WE COULDN'T DO. WHAT IF WE WERE TO HAVE A PERFORMING ARTIST SUDDENLY BE AVAILABLE TO US IN, YOU KNOW, A MONTH'S TIME AND WOULD ASK FOR $5,000? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE THAT FAST? IS THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SO ASKING ABOUT? YEAH. NO. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR TO BOTH OF YOU FOR NOT TYING THAT PART BACK IN. SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT FROM A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE IS IT STARTS IT BEGINS HERE AS A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEN TURNS INTO GETTING SUBMITTED FOR PASSAGE FOR CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN ONCE IT'S PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL, THEN IT CAN MOVE. TOWARD WHAT THE WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN ON THE ACCOUNTING SIDE OF IT. SO THEORETICALLY, IF THE TIMING WERE RIGHT, IF WE HAD SOMETHING COME IN TODAY AND THEY COULD DO IT AT THEIR NEXT MEETING, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE, RIGHT. SO, YEAH, I THINK WE GOT TO FINE TUNE THIS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO DO A CALENDAR, YOU WANT TO DO A CALENDAR, A CALENDAR YEAR OR QUARTERLY APPLICATION PROCESS. AND THEN IT'S YOUR MEETING, THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. AND THEN BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAD THE OTHER DAY, IT'S ABOUT TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT BECAUSE THE SIGNED RESOLUTION HAS TO BE PUT INTO IT, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. SO PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS GOING TO BE ASKING THEM AT THE APPLICATION TIME TO FILL OUT A VENDOR FORM SO THAT THAT PART OF IT IS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF ON THE FRONT END WHEN THEY APPLY.

SO YOU CAN CAN YOU GIVE A TIME FRAME, A MINIMUM TIME FRAME? IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE SIX WEEKS. IS THAT. WELL, NO. SO THE TIME THAT BECAUSE ALEX AND I WERE KIND OF DOING LIKE A VIRTUAL FLOWCHART, IF YOU WILL, WE'RE TRYING TO SAY, OKAY, THESE ARE THE NUMBER OF STEPS. AND BASED ON THAT, HOW CAN WE REDUCE THE TIME. SO AS ALEX HAD ALREADY INDICATED. SO IF YOU ALL WERE TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO AWARD TO JACKSON ENTERPRISES TO DO THIS, THIS EVENT AT $5,000, RIGHT? SO IF IT CAME IN AND COUNCIL MEMBER GOODEN AND THE GOOD PEOPLE OF COUNCIL SAID THAT JACKSON. THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. THAT SOUNDS GOOD. SO IF THAT WERE IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, FOR EXAMPLE, NORMALLY WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD THEN HAPPEN IS, IS THAT OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM WOULD SEND INFORMATION OUT LIKE A VENDOR PACKET FOR THEM TO FILL OUT ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION, FILL OUT A W-9 SO THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THAT PROPER INFORMATION FOR IRS PURPOSES. DO THEY WANT TO GET PAID BY CHECK OR ACH? IF THEY WANT THE ACH, THEN WE NEED THAT BANKING INFORMATION. WE NEED ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO THEN GET ENTERED INTO THE SYSTEM AND TO CREATE A VENDOR ACCOUNT AFTER THAT. THEN THERE'S THE REQUISITION PROCESS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS ASKING MOM AND DAD THAT I NEED PERMISSION TO DO THIS EVENT. DO WE HAVE BUDGET? YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF QUESTIONS AND IT GOES THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS THERE. AND THEN ONCE THAT HAPPENS, WE RECEIVE AN INVOICE FROM, YOU KNOW, SAID VENDOR. AND THEN WE PROCESS THE PAYMENT BASED ON THE INVOICE THAT WE RECEIVE FROM FROM THE VENDOR. SO WHAT ALEX IS SAYING IS, IS ONCE THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE TO AWARD CERTAIN DOLLARS TO CERTAIN VENDORS, IF THEY FEEL, IF THEY HAVE THAT PACKET OF INFORMATION FILLED OUT WHILE THE INFORMATION IS BEING SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL FOR THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL, THE VENDOR ACCOUNT INFORMATION CAN BE SET UP AT THE SAME TIME. SO THOSE ARE HAPPENING PARALLEL. SO WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR ONE STEP OR TWO OR THE NEXT. AGAIN WITH AN EYE ON REDUCING TIME. SO IF COUNCIL APPROVES AND WE HAVE A SIGNED RESOLUTION, THAT'S THE PART THAT'S NEEDED FOR DOCUMENTATION PURPOSES. THAT DOESN'T JUST SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH JACKSON ENTERPRISES, BUT NOW WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ATTACH INTO THE SYSTEM THAT SAYS, HEY, THIS WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE PROPER CHANNELS, AS WERE THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WERE SET UP FOR THIS BODY. IT HAD THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BODY, HAD THE APPROVAL OF CITY

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SO EVERYTHING ON THE FRONT END OF THAT, YOU BUILD OUT THE TWO WEEKS FROM THERE AND THEN GO BACKWARDS. SO IT'S THIS IS GOING TO BE KIND OF A THING. I KNOW I WON'T HOLD YOU TO IT. OF COURSE, HAVING NO ABILITY TO DO THAT. IT'S FIGURING OUT THE COUNCIL SCHEDULE, YOUR SCHEDULE THEN THAT QUARTERLY CYCLE AND THEN THOSE PROCESSES. SO THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THIS OTHER PART OF THE AGENDA TONIGHT AND THEN. BUT YOU MAY WANT TO. SO EACH EACH PERSON WHO APPLIES WILL THEN BECOME A VENDOR. EACH PERSON. SO I WOULD SAY EACH PERSON THAT IS AWARDED. RIGHT.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO JUST IMMEDIATELY JUST I GUESS SATURATE IF YOU WILL, OR JUST THROW VENDOR ACCOUNTS SET UP IF WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO BE AWARDED ANYTHING. SO IT WOULD BE ONCE IT'S AWARDED. AND WE KNOW THAT BUSINESS IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THESE VENDORS, WHEN WE WANT TO ENTER IT IN TO THE SYSTEM. SO AND I HAVE A QUESTION ALSO ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER GOODNESS HERE BECAUSE THIS IS PART ACCOUNTING, PART POLICY REIMBURSEMENT. SO WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE RULE ON ARE THEY GETTING MONEY UP FRONT OR THEY HAVE TO BE REIMBURSED FOR IT. THAT WILL I THINK THE INITIAL ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS BASED ON THE GUIDELINES THAT WERE SET UP FOR THIS BODY, BECAUSE FROM A REIMBURSEMENT OR AN ADVANCEMENT STANDPOINT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE CITY EMPLOYEES DIRECTLY. SO I WOULD NORMALLY I WOULD DEFER TO WHAT THE GUIDELINES HAVE BEEN SET UP FOR. I KNOW THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THAT REIMBURSEMENT IS NOT ALWAYS THE BEST POLICY FOR THE ARTS. EVER SINCE JANUARY EVEN HAD COUNCIL MEMBERS TALKING TO OUR LAST JOINT MEETING THAT THEY GET THAT REIMBURSEMENT IS PART OF A FUNDING TOOL. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE TRIED TO DO IS OFFER THE CITY ADDITIONAL TOOLS.

SO IF CITY STAFF SAID, OKAY, THIS NEEDS TO BE REIMBURSED, BUT LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM UP FRONT. BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE ARE CITY POLICIES. SO IT WE'RE STILL AT THE APPLICATION PROCESS. THEY'LL NEED TO KNOW YOU'LL HAVE TO DO IT BEFORE YOU GET THE MONEY OR THIS IS WHAT QUALIFIES AS. SO TO BEST ANSWER IT. WHEN THE ARTS COMMISSION WAS CREATED IN THE ORDINANCE, IT DOESN'T SAY HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FUND. IT JUST SAYS THAT YOU WOULD BE SUPPORTING ARTS GROWING HERE IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S WHY I AM INTERESTED IN SEEING THE POLICIES YOU CREATE AND ADD IN THOSE POLICIES. HOW YOU PLAN ON FUNDING THAT STILL HAS TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. SO YOU SEND YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ONCE YOU HAVE YOUR POLICY IN PLACE AND YOU ADDRESS HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THE FUNDING, ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, OF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF GUARDRAILS AROUND BECAUSE THIS IS STILL MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT FINANCING. THEN SUBMIT THAT TO COUNCIL. WE WILL REVIEW. AND UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU NEED MORE THAN ONE AVENUE OF FUNDING FOR THE ARTS. SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION. BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S NOT CLEARLY DEFINED IN YOUR ORDINANCE. IT'S NOT CLEARLY DEFINED ANYWHERE AS FAR AS HOW ARTS WILL BE FUNDED. SO THEREFORE DRAFT YOUR POLICY, INCLUDE THAT IN THERE. AND WHAT ARE YOUR EVALUATION PROCESSES. AND THEN AFTER YOU HAVE DRAFTED THAT SEND IT TO CITY MANAGER FOR HIM TO REVIEW. AND THEN HE WILL GET IT ON OUR AGENDA FOR US TO DISCUSS AND APPROVE OR EITHER, SAY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU. SO WHAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO FIND

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THE I GUESS THE, THE CALENDAR FOR THIS BODY MEETING AND HOW THAT FLOWS INTO THE CITY COUNCIL

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GOTCHA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. JACKSON? ALL RIGHT, SO, MR. JACKSON, IF YOU SHARE US A MOMENT RIGHT NOW, THINK ABOUT THIS, GUYS. IN TWO YEARS, WE'RE BEING BRIEFED BY THE CITY CFO TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE AWARD ARTS FUNDING. I MEAN, COME ON, NO, THAT IS THAT'S AMAZING. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, YOU CAN HANG OUT WITH US IF YOU GOT SOMETHING TO DO. BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME WITH US. THANK YOU. IT WAS A PLEASURE. PLEASURE MEETING EVERYONE. I KNOW. I SAW SOME FACES AT COUNCIL BEFORE. GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. AND NICE TO MEET THE ONES THAT I HAVEN'T MET. THANKS. WE APPRECIATE YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OH, OKAY.

[6. Basketball Court Mural Briefing with Tyler Agee, Assistant Director of Parks and Recreation]

BASKETBALL COURT MURAL WITH TYLER AGGIE, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. MAYBE SOME IN HOLLYWOOD, MAYBE SOME AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. BUT HE'S HERE RIGHT NOW. WELCOME TO ARTS COMMISSION. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS TYLER AGEE.

I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION HERE FOR THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. AND I WANTED TO GRAB SOME TIME ON Y'ALL'S THIS MEETING TO JUST BRING AN IDEA THAT CAME TO US AS WE WERE PREPARING TO KIND OF RENOVATE SOME OF THE BASKETBALL COURTS AT, AT ARMSTRONG PARK. SO IDEALLY, THIS PRESENTATION IS ABOUT BRINGING ART TO ARMSTRONG PARK. I KNOW THE CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL ARE LEADING THE EFFORTS ON TO GET INTO ARMSTRONG PARK, AND WE JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT WE SUPPORT IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY. WE'RE DEFINITELY IN, IN, ON, IN YOUR CORNER FOR THIS INITIATIVE. SO ARMSTRONG PARK, DUNCANVILLE CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT, IT HAS THE GREATEST POTENTIAL TO BECOME A TRUE CULTURAL AND ARTISTIC HUB FOR THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. BUT CULTURAL ART DISTRICTS CANNOT EXIST IN NAME ONLY. IT HAS TO BE FELT AND SEEN THROUGH ART. CAN'T HAVE AN ART DISTRICT WITHOUT SOME ART IN THE DISTRICT. SO TODAY I'M HERE TO PRESENT AN OPPORTUNITY, ONE THAT BRINGS SOME VIBRANT, VISIBLE ART INTO THE HEART OF ARMSTRONG PARK. A CANVAS FOR CULTURE. ARMSTRONG PARK'S BASKETBALL COURT. TENNIS COURT. RIGHT? IT GETS A LOT OF USAGE, BUT IT'S NOT THE PRETTIEST ON THE EYES. BUT THERE IS AN IDEA THAT I'M TAKING FROM THE CITY OF HOUSTON. THEY'VE RENOVATED SOME OF THEIR PARKS THROUGH THE 50 OVER 50 PARKS INITIATIVE. SO THIS WAS INTRODUCED TO HOUSTON BY THE LATE CONGRESSMAN SYLVESTER TURNER. HIS INITIATIVE REVITALIZED 50 NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, FOCUSING ON EQUITY AND ACCESS THROUGH SPONSORSHIPS, COLLABORATIONS, AND BASICALLY REVITALIZATION OF UNDERUTILIZED PARKS AREAS. ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT THEY REALLY CAPITALIZED ON IS ANY PARK THAT HAD A COVERED PAVILION OR COVERED COURT. THEY TRIED TO FOCUS ON THOSE, SO THEY PAINTED THE BASKETBALL COURTS AND WITH LOCAL ARTISTS OR SPONSORSHIPS FROM SOME OF THE CELEBRITIES WITHIN HOUSTON, THAT WAY THAT THE LOCAL ARTISTS LIVING THERE WOULD HAVE SOME, SOME TYPE OF FEEDBACK AND CONTRIBUTION CONNECTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAKE IT HAVE PEOPLE TAKE MORE OF A INITIATIVE IN THAT THAT AREA. SO THESE MURALS BECAME

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FIGURING OUT WHAT THE COST OF THAT MURAL WOULD BE, WHETHER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TIME, EFFORT, MATERIALS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ROUGH ESTIMATES FROM SOME SMALLER PARKS THAT WE DID IN HOUSTON. SO IT WAS ABOUT 5 TO $10,000 FOR THE ARTIST. AND HE HAD A TEAM OF INDIVIDUALS COMING OUT TO PAINT THAT THAT AREA OVER A TWO WEEK, THREE WEEK SPAN TO GET IT COMPLETED BY EACH DEADLINE. MATERIALS AND COSTS. SO THE CITY DID PARTNER WITH THE LOCAL ARTIST TO PROCURE THESE PAINTS, THE BRUSHES, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ON HAND. AND WE ALSO GET, YOU KNOW, TAX DEDUCTIONS FOR PURCHASING AND THEN COURT PREPARATION AND MAINTENANCE. SO THAT WAS FULLY ALL LABOR HOURS. AND THEN KIND OF A TOTAL ESTIMATED BETWEEN 10 TO $20,000 FOR A NEW RENOVATED, RESURFACED SPORT COURT THAT ALSO HAS A LASTING CULTURAL EFFECT, A PIECE OF ARTWORK THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN KIND OF TAKE PRIDE IN. PEOPLE COME TO VISIT THOSE AREAS QUITE OFTEN AS WELL. SO AGAIN, THESE NUMBERS ARE FLEXIBLE AND CAN BE ADJUSTED BASED ON THE PARTNERSHIPS. WHO'S DOING THE PAINTING, WHAT'S ALL BEING COLLABORATED ON IN-KIND SPONSORSHIPS. BUT THOSE ARE THE ROUGH KIND OF PROJECT ESTIMATES.

AND THAT'S GOING TO CONCLUDE MY BRIEFING SESSION. BUT IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ABOUT

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CORRECT. BUT LET'S TALK TO EMPIRE. LET'S GIVE HIM SOME FEEDBACK. WELL, THE COURT IS THE PLAN FOR THE COURT ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND BUDGETED AND ALL THAT. SO IS THE COURT BEING BUILT. SO? SO THE COURT IS ACTUALLY OUTSIDE NOW. SO WE HAVE A BASKETBALL FOUNDATION. IT'S A BASKETBALL AND A TENNIS COURT RIGHT HERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT, THE ARMSTRONG PARK PARKING LOT CLOSEST TO THE SCHOOL BUS BARN. SO IT'S ALREADY A THIS IS LIVE FOOTAGE OF THE COURT. WELL NOT ANYMORE. THIS IS THE OLD PHOTO. SO THE LEFT COURT IS ACTUALLY A BASKETBALL COURT NOW. AND THE RIGHT ONE IS STILL A TENNIS COURT. DO YOU HAVE MEASUREMENTS FOR THOSE COURTS? WE DO HAVE MEASUREMENTS FOR THEM. SO WE ACTUALLY IN-HOUSE THE LINING OF THE COURTS WHEN THEY START TO WEAR OUT. BUT THAT'S ABOUT AS FAR AS WE GO AS FAR AS REVITALIZING THE COURT SURFACES IN-HOUSE. SINCE YOU JUST USED THE WORD WEAR OUT, THAT'S MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE NORMAL PROJECTED BASED ON HOUSTON AND DALLAS LIFESPAN OF THE ARTWORK? AND AT WHAT POINT DOES IT START BECOMING UNSIGHTLY AND NEED TO BE REDONE? YES, MA'AM. SO WE WOULD TREAT IT SIMILAR AS WE DO THE SPLASH PAD. SO WE JUST OPENED A NEW SPLASH PAD HERE IN ARMSTRONG PARK. AND IT WOULD BE A SIMILAR PAINT USED ON THE SPORT COURT, SPORT COURT SURFACES. SO THE LIFESPAN OF THOSE ARE ANYWHERE FROM 5 TO 10 YEARS. AND THE TOUCH UP PAINT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD IN-HOUSE. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DESIGN AND READ LIKE REVITALIZE IT IF IT GOT MESSED UP. TOO BAD. BUT TOUCH UP PAINT AND ANY SCUFFS AND MARKS ON IT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO AS LONG AS WE KEPT SOME OF THE PAINT IN THE PROJECT. IF THERE'S GRAFFITI ON IT, CAN IT BE CLEANED? YES.

SO THE PAINT? YEAH, THE PAINT THAT WE DO USE IS THE SAME AS THE SPLASH PAD. IF IT GETS VANDALIZED OR SOME SORT, WE WOULD COME IN WITH OUR GRAFFITI REMOVER THAT'S SPECIFIC FOR THOSE TYPE OF PAINTS AND THOSE SURFACES. AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE IT OFF WITHOUT REMOVING OR DAMAGING THE ACTUAL ARTWORK. OKAY. GOOD. LIKE THAT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. WHEN THEY PLAY BASKETBALL OR TENNIS, IF WE HAVE IF YOU HAVE TOO MUCH ART IN THOSE SQUARES THAT MESS UP THEIR CONCENTRATION OF PLAYING. SO IT SHOULD NOT. WHEN I LOOK AT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY ONE THAT YOU HAD WITH ALL. THAT'S NOT ONE. NO, THESE ARE JUST YOUR OTHER PICTURES. OH THAT ONE. YES.

THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE EXTRA RIGHT. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT OUT IN THE BOUNDARIES WE CAN AGREE THAT THAT IS WAY TOO MUCH. WHICH IS WHY I NEED YOUR HELP DESIGNING SOMETHING A LOT BETTER THAN THAT. RIGHT? OKAY. SOME OF THE OTHER ONES WE DID IN HOUSTON ARE MORE SIMPLE. STILL SOME PRETTY COOL DESIGNS THAT YOU SEE. THE TRAVIS SCOTT COURT RIGHT HERE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER. IT HAS KIND OF HIS CACTUS JACK THEME WITH THE GREEN CACTUSES AROUND THE PAVILION COVERED COURT. BUT ALSO THE COURT SURFACE ACTUALLY HAS SOME SOME EARTH TONES, SOME BROWN LIGHT BROWNS, TANS INCORPORATED INTO IT TO KIND OF BRING AWARENESS TO IT. BUT THE COURT LINES ARE STILL PAINTED INTO IT. SO YOU CAN TELL WHERE THE THREE POINT LINE IS OUT OF BOUNDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY. SO DID YOU TALK ABOUT SPONSORSHIPS LIKE HEB TALKED TO US ABOUT THE SPLASH PAD AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING? ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.

WOULD YOU DO THAT OR DID THEY COME TO YOU LIKE H-E-B, H-E-B? WAIT, OH, SO FOR THIS INITIATIVE FOR HOUSTON? YEAH, FOR HOUSTON, IT WAS THE MAYOR'S INITIATIVE. SO MAYOR SYLVESTER TURNER ACTUALLY SENT OUT A CALL FOR ALL BUSINESSES, PEOPLE TO BE INVOLVED IN GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. ANYBODY LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, HERE'S A PROJECT THAT I WANT TO GET STARTED. AND THEY CAME OUT IN TRUE FORM AND KIND OF HELPED SPONSOR DIFFERENT PARTS, DIFFERENT ASPECTS, LANDSCAPE. IT WAS A BIG INITIATIVE. THIS WAS JUST KIND OF A PORTION OF IT. SO THEY RENOVATED OR WE RENOVATED PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. SO NEW LANDSCAPE, NEW PICNIC TABLES, PAVILIONS. IT WAS A WHOLE PROJECT, BUT INCLUDED IN SOME OF THOSE WAS NEW SPORTS COURT SURFACES AND DESIGNING BY LOCAL ARTISTS, PUTTING MURALS ON THOSE COURTS TO KIND OF BRING A POP TO THE LOCATION. YES, MA'AM. DOESN'T THIS RAISE INTERESTING ESTHETIC QUESTIONS FOR THE WHOLE PARK PROJECT REGARDING ANY SIGNAGE, PARK COLORS, THEME? I MEAN, ISN'T THIS SOMETHING WE NEED A MORE HOLISTIC PLAN CONCERNING? ARE YOU ASKING ME? I WOULD HAVE TO, I WOULD SAY I WANT TO ASK HIM. HE'S PART. ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD THINK SO. I WOULD, YES, I THINK THIS THE COURT ITSELF WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO MATCH THE WHOLE CULTURAL ARTS DISTRICT THEME. SO YES, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY SPONSOR SOME OF THE LARGER DISCUSSIONS. WHAT ELSE? SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THE TEXAS COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS WEBSITE, WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT CULTURAL DISTRICT PROGRAMING AND THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT, BUT MAYBE HIT EVERY SINGLE DAY. YOU HIT EVERY SINGLE POINT. YOU WERE JUST SINGING IN MY RIGHT EAR. THAT'S JUST MY FEELING ON IT. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE SO AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, I'M

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AND SO WE'LL NEED YOUR DIRECTION. LIKE IF YOU WANT US TO GET IN FRONT OF IT BEFORE.

ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK I'M SORRY. YEAH, I LIKE IT. I CAN JUST ENVISION SOME OF THIS BRIGHT COLORS OR, YOU KNOW, DESIGNS ON THE COURT. BUT I ALSO THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF SIDEWALK AND THERE'S SOME WALLS. THERE'S A I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A UTILITY BUILDING OR, YOU KNOW, JUST DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WOULD BE TIED TOGETHER WITH ART AND DIFFERENT THEMES HAVE A KIND OF A THEME THAT GOES THROUGHOUT THE PARK. I AGREE. ONE THING YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT AS FAR AS THEMES GO, SO THE SPLASH PAD IS THERE'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE NEW DECOR ON THE SPLASH PAD THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE INPUT ON. JOVIS IS ALREADY DONE THE THING. YEAH, BUT WE CAN. SO THE REST OF IT. BUT SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT. AND SO WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE TO IN FACT, I'M GOING TO BRING SOME PEOPLE FROM FROM OTHER CULTURAL DISTRICTS IN THE TCA TO COME TALK TO THIS COMMISSION AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE IN CITY HALL COUNCIL EVENTUALLY. BUT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING THEMATIC. BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT IS HOW DOES A COMMUNITY USE IT? DOES DOES EVERYTHING NEED TO BE MATCHY MATCHY, OR DOES IT NEED TO MAKE LOGISTICAL SENSE THAT THIS IS HOW WE'RE USING IT? SO WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS IF FOLKS WHO LIKE TO PLAY ON THE BASKETBALL COURT AND THEY LIKE TO PLAY TENNIS OR WHATEVER THE RESOURCES ARE, IT NEEDS TO MATCH THE SPIRIT OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE USING IT. SO THE KIDS ON THE SPLASH PAD ARE THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE SPLASH PAD. IT NEEDS TO REFLECT THE THAT USE ON THE SPLASH PAD. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE PLAN FOR THIS THING LATER ON IN THE AGENDA. BUT BUT I WOULD NOT GET HUNG UP TOO MUCH ON BEING THEMATIC. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? TIM I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO DO SOMETHING. I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPLASH PAD IDEA BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT CURATING IT. AND SO THE ART THAT WAS PROPOSED IS WHAT WILL GO UP THERE. AND, AND I THINK TO A POINT THAT I GUESS, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THE CITY AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THIS COMMISSION IS ABOUT, THE CITY HAS A CLEAR VISION OF WHAT THE WHAT WHAT IS THE ART CULTURE OF THIS COMMUNITY. WHAT IS IT THAT THE. COMMUNITY. SEES? YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT IS YOU KNOW, IS IT IS IT YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE THE CITY OF BUTTERFLIES, THEN I'M SURE ALL OF OUR ART WOULD REFLECT BUTTERFLIES, YOU KNOW, TO ONE DEGREE, WE'RE THE CITY OF CHAMPIONS. SO IN A SENSE THAT ALMOST SAYS, WELL, WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, SPORTS THEMED THINGS. COUNCIL MEMBER MARK BURNETT WILL TELL YOU IT'S NOT JUST SPORTS. I UNDERSTAND THAT CHAMPIONSHIP MEANS ACADEMICS. IT CAN MEAN ANYTHING, BUT IT'S ALWAYS WHATEVER IT MEANS. IT'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY WINS AND SOMEBODY LOSES. THAT'S THAT'S IT. BUT IN THE ARTS, EVERYBODY WINS. IT DOES. SO. SO I THINK WE HAVEN'T REALLY LOCKED AND LOADED FOR DAYS. I JUST I THINK THAT THERE WAS I MEAN, MAYBE WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN OURSELVES WITH AN IDENTITY. GRAPEVINE SEES THEMSELVES AS THE CHRISTMAS CITY OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, WE SO, TIM, I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A CULTURAL PLAN LATER ON IN THE AGENDA, AND YOU'RE GOING DOWN THAT ROAD, AND HE'S OUT HERE ON A DIFFERENT ITEM. BUT I'M GOING TO BUT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT. ANY OTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC. YES. SO YEAH, THAT'S DELIBERATELY WHY THIS WAS PUT IN HERE. BECAUSE TYLER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS IS NOT A 25 PROJECT. THIS IS A 26 PROJECT. YES. THIS IS MORE OF A 26. OKAY.

OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HIM CAN HELP OVERSEE THE PAINTING. THE ACTUAL PAINTING. YES, MA'AM. YEAH. WE WOULD HAVE STAFF. WE HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER ON STAFF THAT CAN HELP AND OVERSEE WHAT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE, THE LAYOUT, THINGS LIKE THAT. HE IS CURRENTLY KIND OF OCCUPIED WITH HARRINGTON PARK, BUT YES, ABSOLUTELY. WE HOPE TO BE DONE WITH THAT BEFORE THIS PROJECT KICKS OFF. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE A REALLY AMAZING PARKS AND REC STAFF. I KNOW, THAT'S FOR SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE HAVING ME COME BACK AND VISIT. I'M SURE THEY WILL. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO

[Items 7.a. - 7.c.]

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THEY'VE THEY'VE DONE SOME SOCIAL MEDIA ADVERTISING. BUT. I DON'T SEE I JUST DON'T SEE WHERE WE, WHERE AT THE SHORT NOTICE WHERE WE CAN DO ANYTHING. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. ARE YOU, ARE YOU OKAY WITH IF THIS. BECAUSE WHO'S ALL IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS YOU TWO AND WELL, TIFFANY CAME TO THE ONE MEETING. TIM CAME TO ONE MEETING. MARIANNE CAME TO CAME TO ONE MEETING OR TWO. WAS IT TWO? NO. YEAH, JUST ONE, I GUESS. AND I WASN'T AT THAT MEETING, BUT I. YOU WERE TALKING TO HIM. OH, YEAH, I WAS NEARBY. SO IS THIS, IS THIS. I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT LIKE FUNCTIONALLY, LOGISTICALLY, AS WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS, IS IT IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO? WELL, WE HAVE ANOTHER DATE AND ANOTHER MOVIE, BUT THAT'S IN SEPTEMBER. IN SEPTEMBER. DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? YEAH, I WOULD THINK I THINK BASICALLY I'M GOING WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS. AND I THINK AND I'M GOING TO USE THE THEATER AS A MODEL. I DON'T THINK IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GIMMICK. IF YOU'RE SHOWING A MOVIE OR YOU'RE DOING A PLAY, I THINK IT'S ENOUGH TO HAVE THE EVENT. AND IN FACT, SOMETIMES I THINK YOU ALMOST CHEAPEN IT BY TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING ELSE GO WITH IT, BECAUSE I'M OFTEN APPROACHED ABOUT THAT AT THE THEATER. OH, DON'T YOU WANT TO DO A BLAH BLAH? I'M LIKE, IT'S ABOUT THE

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YEAH, I THINK ORIGINALLY BECAUSE WE HAD THAT. I'M SORRY. WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY CAME, THERE WAS A BRAINSTORMING SESSION AND I THINK THE MAYOR WAS HERE. WE TALKED ABOUT DRESSING UP FOR, I THINK ORIGINALLY IT WAS THE ARTS COMMISSION WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE IT MORE ROBUST. BUT I THINK I THINK THAT'S BASED ON WHAT THEY SEE, LIKE THE PROJECTS WHERE WE TAKE A LEAD ON IT BECAUSE THEY THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTOOD WAS THAT IT HAD DECLINED, THAT IT WAS NOT WHAT THEY'D LIKE IT TO BE. AND THEN WE WERE HAPPY TO SHARE, YOU KNOW, OUR FRESH IDEAS. WE WERE, OF COURSE, SO FULL OF FRESH IDEAS. BUT. THE YES, THE IDEA OF ALL THIS OTHER STUFF THAT WAS LIKE EIGHT NOTCHES ABOVE ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY THINK OF DOING WAS, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, WE THOUGHT WE WERE JUST DOING A MOVIE, JUST DOING THE MOVIES. SO WE WENT FROM BRAINSTORMING TO YOU GUYS ARE REALLY TAKING A LOT. YEAH. AND I CAN TELL BASED ON THE EMAILS THAT IT IS A LOT. SO MAYBE IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT BUT THERE'S NO POINT MAKING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING MORE ON THE ARTS COMMISSION BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT. SO LIKE IF YOU WANT TO JUST SAY, DO THE MOVIE AND WE'RE GOOD OR, WELL, THE ONLY ADVANTAGE TO US BEING INVOLVED IS NOT ONLY, WELL, WE HAD THE INPUT ON TWO OF THE FILMS OUT OF FOUR, AND THEY'RE EXPERIMENTING WITH NEW FORMAT TYPE THINGS. AND WERE WE TO, FOR EXAMPLE, INTRODUCE THE FILM AND MENTION THE CULTURAL DISTRICT OR THE ARTS COMMISSION, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIE IN, OR IF WE WERE SIMPLY TO SUPPORT IT AND INVITE MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE ARE SORT OF CONNECTED TO NOEL AND HIS GROUP NOW AS SUPPORTIVE ENTITIES. YOU KNOW, PART OF IT IS THIS IS PROGRAMMATIC, YOU KNOW, AND THEY HAVE STAFF AND SELECT THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TAKEN. THEY'VE JUST BEEN SINGLE ISSUES THAT WE TOOK. RIGHT. AND I DON'T SEE THAT WE HAVE THE BANDWIDTH FOR A PROGRAM BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE JUST HAVING TO DO ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S FAIR. SO IT'S OKAY TO SAY WE GAVE IT OUR BEST SHOT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT ANYMORE. WELL, LET'S SEE HOW THE FIRST ONE GOES. UNFORTUNATELY, TIM AND I HAVE TO BE OUT OF TOWN THAT WEEKEND, WHICH IS TOO BAD THAT HE IS THAT WEEKEND. BUT I'M WONDERING IF ONE OF YOU WOULD WANT TO SAY SOMETHING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FILM OR ANGELA. ANGELA. YOU. SO I WILL HAVE TO SAY AND I CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T DO SPEECH. WE DON'T DO CURTAIN SPEECHES AT THE THEATER, I REALLY AM. I'M JUST SO IN FAVOR OF THE SHOW BEING THE SHOW. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT IT, THEN IT'S MISSING SOMETHING. I REALLY LOVE THE SHOW TO BE THE SHOW, AND THAT'S. THAT'S MY DIE HARD THEATER PERSON. I'M SORRY, BUT YOU KNOW, I DO. BUT I DO THINK IT'S IF WE IF WE'VE CHOSEN THESE REALLY NICE, NICE MOVIES. NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF NOEL HAS A POPCORN OUT THERE, IF THEY HAVE A POPCORN VENDOR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SAID, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE BRING. YEAH. AND I'M SURE THEY DO. THEY BRING THEIR OWN STUFF. SO BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HURT IF WE DECIDED, I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN EVEN A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE, THE LITTLE CART GUYS WITH THE CARTS OR SOMETHING. THE LIBRARY HAS, WE BOUGHT THEM A

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I'LL TALK TO HIM. I WAS, I KIND OF I WE USED TO GO TO A SERIES. TITUS I THINK THE MACFARLANE.

MCFARLAND ON SMU CAMPUS. THEY ALWAYS HAD A GUY COME OUT BEFORE THE EVENT, AND HE WOULD. HE WOULD HE WOULD ALWAYS. HE WAS PRETTY FUNNY GUY. BUT HE WOULD ALSO PITCH THE WHOLE SERIES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SERIES OF FILMS AND CONCERTS. SO I DO SEE AT LEAST A HIGH WELCOME PITCH OF WHAT THE SERIES IS. AND THEN ON WITH THE SHOW KIND OF THING. BUT MAYBE NO ONE, NO NEED TO DO THAT BECAUSE. RIGHT. THAT'S ANOTHER THING, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT NO TAP DANCING. YOU KNOW, SO PEOPLE ARE SO, SO THE CONSENSUS ON THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT A TWO MORE MEETINGS. I MEAN TWO MORE MOVIES. AND THEN WHAT. EVALUATE FOR ALTOGETHER TWO OF THEM WE'VE CHOSEN AND THE ARMSTRONG PART MAKES US AT LEAST THEORETICALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT GOES ON CULTURALLY IN THE PARK. SO THE MORE OF US THAT CAN BE THERE AND BE AWARE OF IT AND COME BACK WITH RESULTS AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU HAVE INTERESTING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE. MAYBE WE HELP TO HEAL RACISM A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE DO SOMETHING THAT IS RELATED TO OUR HOPES FOR DUNCANVILLE, RIGHT? WE'RE PROMOTING DIVERSITY. WE'RE PROMOTING AWARENESS AND DIALOG WITH THEMES LIKE WHAT IT BRINGS UP ABOUT WOMEN AND RACE AND SERVICE. YOU KNOW, IT'S ON, IT'S ON YOU. SO IT'S A GOOD THING FOR US TO BE AWARE OF OR PARTICIPATE IN AS INDIVIDUALS, EVEN IF WE DON'T AS A GROUP. WE'RE OUT THERE DOING SOMETHING SPECIFIC. OKAY. ANY OTHER CONVERSATION ON IT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN B JUNETEENTH 2025. I WOULD LIKE TO JUMP OUT AHEAD OF THIS ONE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I BROKE OUT THESE DIFFERENT ITEMS IS I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR MARKETING STARTED FOR JUNETEENTH SO I CAN GET ANYTHING AS FAR AS THEMES, SO I CAN START BUILDING THE BRAND SO THAT WE CAN GET IT ON THE COMMUNITY CALENDAR, SO THAT WE CAN START GETTING THOSE THINGS PUT TOGETHER FOR THE SOCIAL MEDIA EVENT AND ALL OF THAT, THAT ALL. I GUESS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DECIDED TONIGHT, BUT IF WE CAN GET IT STARTED. OKAY, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS, IS THE CITY OFFICE CLOSED AS IT WAS LAST YEAR? FOR WHICH DAY IS IT? THE 19TH OR THURSDAY? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I REMEMBER IT WAS LIKE CLOSED ON A MONDAY, CLOSED ON A MONDAY. AND THE FEDERAL HOLIDAY, IT WAS THE 17TH, I THINK, LAST YEAR. 17TH. I COULD BE WRONG. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT WAS ON A MONDAY. WELL, LAST YEAR YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF DESIGNING THE POSTER AND PRINTING LARGE THINGS FOR US. REMEMBER WE SUBMITTED THE SCHEDULE AND THE EVENTS AND YOU PRINTED ALL THAT. WE DID SOME PRINTING AS WELL, BUT WE MADE BIG POSTERS. SOME OF IT WAS REFLECTED YOUR DESIGN FOR JUNETEENTH, WHICH WAS VERY NICE. WELL, I'M PUTTING THIS OUT THERE. I CAN GET THAT. I'D LIKE TO GET IT GOING SOONER RATHER THAN LATER SO THAT WE'RE NOT BEHIND ON MARKETING IT. OKAY. AND IF YOU WANT TO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO A CALL FOR ARTISTS OR HAVE YOU ALREADY SELECTED. I THINK WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION BRIEFLY. I THINK YOU HAD A PLAN FOR THAT BRIEFLY. I HAVE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF ARTISTS AS FAR AS LOOKING AT PROGRAMS, BUT HAVEN'T, AND SARAH SENT ME A COUPLE OF INFORMATION, BUT I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT DAY THE CITY WAS CLOSED, SO I KNEW NOT TO MESS WITH THAT DAY. AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE 19TH OR NOT. I'M NOT SURE. I'M NOT POSITIVE AT THE MOMENT. OKAY, SO I HAVE REACHED OUT. I WANT TO DO SOMETHING. MAYBE I WAS THINKING OF DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THIS YEAR

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AND THEN THEY CAN GO TO THE DUNCANVILLE SWITCH AFTER WE FINISH. SO THAT WAS A THOUGHT FOR FRIDAY. WE STILL HAVE THINGS WE COULD DO DURING THE DAYTIME. OH, AND I ALSO THOUGHT MAYBE ONE EVENING HAVING. AFRICAN AMERICAN AUTHORS AND THEIR BOOKS AND THEY COME AND MAYBE DO A READING FROM THERE. THEY HAVE LIKE WE GIVE THEM EACH A TABLE AND THEY DO. THEY HAVE THEIR THIRD STUFF OUT THERE AND THEN HAVE THE AUDIENCE THERE, AND THEY CAN COME OUT AND SPEAK A LITTLE BIT FROM THEIR BOOKS. AND THEN AFTER IT'S OVER, THEY CAN PEOPLE CAN WALK AROUND AND TALK TO THEM. SO THOSE ARE THREE I LIKE HOW COMPREHENSIVE, I LIKE HOW COMPREHENSIVE YOUR THINKING ON THIS IS. TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER TYPES OF ART. AND THEN I WAS GOING TO CALL YOU ALL, I HAVEN'T CALLED YOU YET, BUT I WAS GOING TO CALL YOU ALL AND ASK IF THERE'S BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT, MAYBE SOMETHING, A DANCE OR ONE OF THE EVENINGS, BUT I'M TRYING TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN ALWAYS THE PAINTING, THE PAINTINGS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. WELL, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE FILM IN THE PARK OR MAYBE IN THE ROOM AT THE REC CENTER, YOU KNOW, THAT LONG ROOM? YEAH. AND EITHER A LONG FILM OR MAYBE A COUPLE OF SHORT FILMS BY AFRICAN AMERICAN ARTISTS WOULD BE NICE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONLY TEN, 15 MINUTE SHORT FILMS. 3 OR 4. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO BRING TO YOU ALL AS SUGGESTIONS FOR JUNETEENTH. LIKE WE TAKE ANOTHER DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I LOVE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT, I LIKE IT, I LOVE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT. HEY, ALEX, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TO GET STARTED ON SOME OF THESE THINGS YOU WANTED TO DO? SEASONAL MARKETING. I'M SORRY. GIVE ME A THEME. GIVE ME YOUR YOUR IDEAS.

IT'S. I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD OFF OF SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO SEE RATHER THAN. SO THOSE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO DO. I WAS LISTENING TO MR. JACKSON SAID TO ME ABOUT BUDGET AND TIMING AND GETTING THE MONEY. SO I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, THAT MEANS I HAVE TO PROBABLY GET PAPERWORK TO THEM, I GUESS THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND START THE PROCESS. BUT BUT I WANT TO

[01:30:01]

FOR THE UNITING THEME, DID YOU HAVE ONE THAT'S THAT UNITES THEM ALL? I HADN'T COME UP WITH A THEME YET, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NATIONAL THEME IS LIKE. LAST TIME IT SEEMED LIKE YOU HAD A PAINTBRUSH IN THE DESIGN. MAYBE IT WAS FOCUSED ON LAST TIME WE FOCUSED ON VISUAL ART AND CULTURE BECAUSE WE HAD THE AFRICAN EXHIBIT OF THE HARVEYS. RIGHT.

AND JACQUELINE IS AN AUTHOR, BY THE WAY, AND I'M SURE THEY'D BE WILLING TO BRING SOME THINGS TO THE ROOM, SINCE IT'LL BE LOCKED, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF WE WANT TO DO SOME DROP ART AND HAVE A FEW PIECES IN THERE OR SOMETHING, THAT'S FINE. BUT I GUESS I WANTED TO FOCUS ON LITERATURE, POETRY, DANCE, CULINARY AND DANCE. WELL, HEY, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE HAVE. I'M DOING SOME MATH BACKWARDS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE READY BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME COSTS WITH THIS. ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, HOW WE CAN PAY FOR THIS, HOW YOU CAN PAY FOR IT. SO YOU'RE DISCUSSING YOUR POLICIES TONIGHT. WELL, SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS. WE WE'RE PROBABLY AFTER THIS MEETING. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A DECISION IN THIS MEETING. WE MIGHT HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. IF WE DON'T WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN APRIL. SO HOPEFULLY IN APRIL WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. SO MAY, APRIL OR MAY, WE MAY TAKE A VOTE, WHICH MEANS YOU WOULDN'T GET IT UNTIL MAYBE JUNE. AND SO IT'S ALL I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY WHEN I WAS SITTING HERE LISTENING TO YOU, I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF WE CAN. SEEMS LIKE WE NEED A SUBCOMMITTEE TO WORK WITH ALEC. SO IT'S NOT THAT. IT'S JUST PAYING THEM. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAYING PEOPLE, FOLKS. OH, SO WHEN TIFFANY GOT THAT CREOLE BLACK CAESAR, HOW DID WE PAY HIM? THAT WAS FOR THE MIXERS. YES, BUT HOW MUCH CDC PAID THAT SHE. YEAH. YEAH, THAT WAS BEFORE SHE HAD A BUDGET OF 5000. EACH MIXER DCDC PAID FOR THAT. NEVER MIND. LET ME GET WITH THE CITY MANAGER. AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT OPTIONS YOU WILL HAVE AVAILABLE. ANGELA, HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU THINK WE'D HAVE TO HAVE? WELL, TIFFANY WAS THINKING IF WE COULD HAVE A BUDGET OF TEN. BUT WE MAY NOT NEED THE WHOLE TEN. THERE MIGHT BE WAYS WE COULD. 10,000. YEAH, BECAUSE WE WERE THINKING, 12,400 RIGHT NOW. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OTHER FOLKS. AND THEN THE CHICKEN AND WAFFLES IDEA. THERE'S SOME COST CUTTING MEASURES THAT WE CAN DO FOR THAT ONE. BUT. SO THIS IS NOT AN ACTION ITEM. THIS IS A CONVERSATION. BUT $10,000 IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE LESS THAN CRAP BECAUSE YOUR POLICIES THAT YOU'RE CREATING THAT'S TO FUND ARTS OUTSIDE OF THE COMMISSION. SO YOUR BUDGET MAY BE AVAILABLE TO YOU TO USE. YOU JUST HAVE TO EARMARK THAT AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE YOU HAVE TO EARMARK THAT AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE YOUR POLICIES FOR HOW YOU FUND AND DISTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY. BUT THIS IS YOUR EXPENSE. BUT THIS IS THE YOUR ARTS COMMISSION EVENT. SO YOU ALREADY HAVE AT LEAST 40, FROM WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT AVAILABLE. SO YOU MAY JUST BE ABLE TO EARMARK TEN OF THAT FOR THE EVENT. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASSUMING. SO THAT'S A PROCESS THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR WHEN I LOOK AT ALEX'S FACE, IT DOESN'T LOOK. SO I'LL CONFIRM THAT I JUST STOPPED READING. SORRY, READ. SO I WILL CONFIRM THAT THOUGH, WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH AN EMAIL TO THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR TO THE STAFF LIAISON AND THEY CAN DISTRIBUTE IT OUT TO EVERYONE. BUT DO YOU ALL LIKE THAT IDEA? WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE. GREAT. I HAVE A SUGGESTION. I KNOW I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEE IF YOU WOULD ALLOW. OKAY. GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO WE KNOW WE HAVE CULINARY PROGRAM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. MY DAUGHTER WAS IN THE CULINARY PROGRAM AT DESOTO, AND WHENEVER THERE WAS AN EVENT HAPPENING, THEY WOULD SOMETIMES CALL ON THE CULINARY PROGRAM TO FIND OUT ABOUT THAT. BUT IT'S IN JUNE. SCHOOL'S OUT.

OLD SCHOOL IS OUT IN JUNE. YEAH. SO I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU CAN PROBABLY GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO

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JUST THE GENERAL THEME. AND MAYBE THROUGH THE ARTS OR CELEBRATION THROUGH THE ARTS.

YEAH, I THINK CELEBRATING FREEDOM THROUGH THE ARTS OR RESILIENCE THROUGH FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. YEAH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. WELL, IF YOU ALL HAVE SOME IDEAS OF THINGS LIKE THAT, SEND THEM TO ANGELA. YEAH, SEND THEM TO ME AND ALEX. COULD YOU LET ME KNOW WHAT DAY THE CITY IS CLOSED? I JUST SENT AN EMAIL TO HR. I WAS LOOKING TO SEE IF THEY HAD. TYPICALLY THEY SEND A LIST OF ALL THE DATES AND I CAN'T FIND IT. SO I SENT AN EMAIL TO HR. SO I SHOULD KNOW THAT TOMORROW. BUT I'LL GET THAT TO YOU TOMORROW. BUT REMEMBER, WE STILL WERE OPEN THAT DAY FOR OUR EVENT LAST YEAR. REMEMBER THAT, RIGHT? BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. YEAH, THAT THAT SHE'S. WHAT IS THIS? JUNETEENTH LIKE CUTOUTS OF SILHOUETTES OF DIFFERENT. UNTIL YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. ITEM SEVEN C HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH ARTS ACTIVATION DISCUSSION I THINK BOTH RELEASED ON THAT ARE GONE. SO DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT? OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT BALLOONFEST. I KNOW IT'S BEEN FUNDED, RIGHT? IT'S BEEN FUNDED. BUT OUR THE STUFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, ARE THEY BUYING THIS STUFF OR I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM. THEY HAVE A LOT OF STUFF FOR US. BUT WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS, OKAY, WELL IT'LL BE OVER BY THE TIME. I'LL FOLLOW UP ON

[8. Arts Funding Policy discussion.]

AND THEN $3,001 AND ABOVE WOULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL. WE STILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE CALENDAR PART, HOW THAT CALENDAR ELEMENT WOULD WORK. SO WHAT THAT SCHEDULE WOULD BE WHEN THE CALL FOR APPLICATIONS WOULD BE HOW THOSE APPLICATIONS WOULD BE TAKEN IN, AND THEN BUILD THAT TIMELINE OUT, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU WANT TO DO IT QUARTERLY, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A FISCAL YEAR TO WORK WITH IT. SO THE FISCAL YEAR STARTS IN OCTOBER AND IT ENDS IN SEPTEMBER. AND ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS STILL NEED TO BE CONSIDERED. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT BEFORE I FORGET IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER GOODEN. SO. IF WE DO THIS QUARTERLY, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS ARTS COMMISSION IS GOING TO HAVE WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW APPLICATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT APPLICATIONS, WE'RE

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SO PROBABLY I WOULD EVEN MAYBE WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS AT THE SAME TIME WITH WE'RE ASKING HERE'S THE ONES WE'RE PRESENTING, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING TO THEM. ALSO. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE APPROVE BELOW THE 3000. SO IT WOULD BE A COMBINATION. A BRIEFING WOULD FOLLOW THE REQUEST FOR THE LARGER NUMBERS SO THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS BEING BRIEFED ON WHAT'S GOING ON. SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR 20. YOU'RE SAYING WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO SPEND $25,000. NO, 2500, 2500 UNDER THAT UNDER THE BOTTOM THRESHOLD? OKAY. SO I WOULD THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE CONDITIONS THAT YOU SET. WHAT QUALIFIES? WHAT DOES NOT QUALIFY? I DID BASED ON THE 2 OR 3 MEETINGS THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAD GAVE SOME KIND OF IDEAS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT IS WHAT QUALIFIES, WHAT DOESN'T. SO THE SUBMISSION, THE CALL WOULD GO OUT SUBMISSION, THE APPLICATIONS WOULD COME IN. THE APPLICATIONS WOULD ALSO COME IN WITH A VENDOR PACKET SO THAT AT THE TIME YOU APPROVE, I'M JUMPING AHEAD AT THE TIME THAT YOU DECIDE TO RECOMMEND IT. I CAN GIVE IT TO PROCUREMENT, SO AT LEAST THAT'S IN THE QUEUE. THE THINGS THAT YOU SAY QUALIFY OR DON'T QUALIFY EITHER GO TO YOU BECAUSE IT QUALIFIES DOESN'T YOU DON'T SEE IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T QUALIFY. THEY'RE COMMUNICATED WITH THIS DIDN'T QUALIFY BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS AND THIS REASON FROM THIS POLICY HERE YOU CAN LOOK AT IT.

SO SAY THEY WANT TO PAINT THEIR CAR AND YOU DECIDE CUSTOM PAINTING OF YOUR CAR DOESN'T QUALIFY. PICKING SOMETHING OUT OF THIN AIR. BUT SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO A MURAL ON A PUBLIC SPACE THAT THEY ALREADY GOT PERMISSION FOR, AND THAT DOES QUALIFY. SO YOU WOULD GET ALL OF THOSE QUALIFYING APPLICATIONS. YOU WOULD DECIDE ON THEM AT A CERTAIN POINT IN YOUR CALENDAR.

HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO THAT. AND THEN THE ONES THAT YOU APPROVE THAT ARE 25 2500, YOU MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION. IF CITY COUNCIL SAYS THAT YOU CAN DO IT, I GO TO TAKE THAT AS A REQUISITION, PUT IN AN CREATE SOME KIND OF AN INVOICE THAT I WOULD HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT PAYMENT PROCESS IS, AND WITHIN TWO WEEKS THEY WOULD BE PAYING ME. OKAY. SO ANYTHING UNDER $3,000, IT'S GOING TO BE THE CITY MANAGER WHO'S GOING TO BE INVOLVED. GOTCHA. HE'S GOING TO SEE ALL OF THOSE. HE'S GOING TO APPROVE ALL OF THOSE. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ME IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE STAFF. IT'S GOING TO BE THE CITY MANAGER. I BELIEVE THAT HE WANTS IT TO WORK LIKE THAT, SO THAT THERE IS THAT ACCOUNTABILITY TO THIS FUND. SO COUNCIL MEMBER, AS ARTS COMMISSION CONSIDERS THIS PACKAGE, CAN YOU OFFER ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK WOULD BENEFIT US AS WE CONSIDER POLICY FOR ARTS AND, AND CITY COUNCIL AND THE WAY WE ALL WORK TOGETHER? IF YOU DON'T, IT'S OKAY. NO, I DON'T THINK I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO WALK AWAY

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THAT IS JUST APPLICATIONS, BECAUSE WE ALSO AS PART OF THIS, WE WANT TO LET THE APPLICANT KNOW THAT THE MEETING IS GOING TO BE AT THIS TIME. WE WANT THEM TO BE THERE SO THAT THEY CAN PRESENT THEIR OWN CASE TO YOU SO THEY CAN PRESENT THEIR OWN WORK, THEIR PORTFOLIO, THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, WHATEVER MEET, THEY NEED TO MAKE THE PITCH TO YOU. SO WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE THA.

SO THEY'RE COMING TO ME. I CAN SEND IT RIGHT AWAY TO YOU. THE SCHEDULE PASS THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT AS PART OF THE SCHEDULE OKAY, OKAY. IT'S A LOT OF LOGISTICS, BUT I THINK THAT ONCE IT GETS AUTOMATED, IT WILL MAKE SENSE. AND IT'S REALLY A LOT OF IT'S GOING TO BE DETERMINED BY FIGURING OUT THE SCHEDULE. FIGURING OUT THE SCHEDULE WILL ALLOW US TO FIGURE OUT THE PROCESS. IT ALLOWS US TO FIGURE OUT A THE CALENDAR FOR WHEN THE CALL FOR APPLICATIONS

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BECAUSE THE GOAL IS YOU DON'T SPEND ALL OF YOUR MONEY FROM THIS YEAR, IN THIS YEAR, THAT YOU LEAVE A GOOD CHUNK OF IT. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S ONLY BUDGETED AT THIS POINT FOR $50,000 IN EXPENDITURES. I DID NOT KNOW THAT UNTIL TONIGHT. I APOLOGIZE. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS. AND AGAIN THIS IS THIS IS HOMEWORK. BUT THIS IS THIS PERHAPS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE COULD DO AS A COMMISSION. THIS SETS UP EVERY FUTURE ARTS COMMISSION. WHAT WE DO TODAY SETS UP THE NEXT TIME WHAT I COULD DO. IF YOU'D ALL LIKE, I CAN SEND YOU ALL THE WORD DOCUMENT SO THAT YOU CAN TRACK YOUR CHANGES ON IT. I JUST ASK IF YOU COULD SAVE IT WITH YOUR INITIALS, SAVE OFF A COPY WITH YOUR INITIALS SO THAT WHEN I GET IT BACK, I HAVE ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT VERSIONS. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON. SO ARE YOU READY TIM. YES OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT CULTURAL PLAN AND I'M

[9. Cultural Plan discussion.]

GENERALLY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE. AND I'LL ASK COUNCIL MEMBER GOODEN IF SHE CAN TALK ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING COMMITTEE AND HOW THIS COULD WORK WITH THAT OR OTHER KINDS OF PLANNING.

BUT CITY STAFF CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT A PLAN. WE'VE NEVER HAD AN ARTS COMMISSION, SO THERE'S NEVER BEEN A CULTURAL ARTISTIC PLAN FOR THE CITY. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, WELL, DOES THE DOES THE CULTURAL DISTRICT, DOES IT NEED TO BE MATCHY MATCHY? WELL, THAT'S PART OF A CULTURAL PLAN.

WHAT ABOUT DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE? HOW DOES IT FIT? WHAT ABOUT ADJACENT PROPERTY? WHAT ABOUT WHAT ABOUT THE WHAT ABOUTS? SO GENERALLY, SOMEONE FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER AND IT'S A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. EVERYONE DOES IT. AND SO TIM, THIS WAS TO YOUR QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT WHAT DOES THE CITY WANT TO BE WHEN IT GROWS UP IN THE ARTS? I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

OKAY. SO TALK AMONGST YOURSELVES. BECAUSE YOU'RE VICE CHAIR. ALL RIGHT. AND CAN

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I THINK IT'S A CITY WIDE THING. AND SO ARTS COMMISSION SHOULD PUT SOME FUNDS, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE ENTIRE CITY. SO I THINK FUNDS SHOULD COME FROM OTHER PLACES AS WELL. BUT BUT ULTIMATELY, WHAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME BY THE CITY MANAGER, AGAIN, FOR THE CITY TO DO ANYTHING, WE NEED A PLAN. AND THE PLAN OUTLINES A VISION. WHAT'S IMPORTANT CULTURALLY, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO INCLUDE ASSET MAPPING. I TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS. THAT'S PEOPLE, PLACES AND EVENTS WHERE THINGS HAPPEN, HOW PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THE FUTURE. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A CULTURAL DISTRICT OUTSIDE OF IT? SO IT'S BASICALLY HOW WE USE ARTS AND CULTURE TO DRIVE THE CITY. THANK YOU. ARTS AND CULTURE BENEFIT NOT ONLY ECONOMICS. WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT ECONOMICS, BUT HEALTH AND EDUCATION AND PROSPERITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. THEY ALL FIT INTO INTO A CULTURAL PLAN. SO WHEN YOU'RE ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS WHILE HE WAS HERE, THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD GET IT WOULD GET VETTED. AND THERE'S ALSO, IF YOU REMEMBER, DURING OUR JOINT MEETING WITH THE ECONOMIC COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BOARD, THEY'RE WORKING ON A DASHBOARD, THE COMMUNITY DASHBOARD, TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT DATA AND USE THE DATA. AND I KNOW THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT USED SOME DATA TRACKING AS WELL.

SO SOMEONE COMES TO AN ARTS EVENT, WHERE DO THEY GO AFTER OR WHERE DO THEY GO BEFORE AN ARTS EVENT? SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ECONOMIC PLANNING. SO AS YOU CONSIDER THIS POLICY, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE WAY THE ARTS COMMISSION IS RECOMMENDING FUNDING, CONSIDER HOW WE START TO OUTLINE A, A, A CULTURAL DISTRICT PLAN. AND IT MIGHT BE YOU CAN THE PEOPLE AT THE END OF THE TABLE CAN HELP. LET ME KNOW IF I'M SAYING ANYTHING INCORRECTLY. IT MIGHT BE THAT THE ARTS COMMISSION RECOMMENDS. A CULTURAL PLAN STRATEGY, AND WE

[02:00:02]

FURTHER, IF WE YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT FURTHER NORTH MAIN. SO THIS IS HOW IT ALL FITS TOGETHER. SO I'M PROBABLY OVER TALKING IT. BUT THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I TALK ABOUT. THIS IS WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT. BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO FUND CONCERTS? ARE WE GOING TO THAT'S WHAT A NONPROFIT DOES OR THAT'S WHAT A COMMITTEE DOES. A COMMISSION CREATES POLICY THAT ALLOWS THEM TO DO THOSE THINGS. SO THAT'S WHY I HARP ON THAT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CULTURAL PLAN? BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN

[02:05:05]

TO, TO MAKE A SUBCOMMITTEE OR WHAT I WOULD I WOULD MAKE IT AN ACTION ITEM WHERE WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE IN A CULTURAL PLAN. AND THEN BASED ON THAT, GO AHEAD AND TAKE ACTION AND, AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. AND WHAT WAS JUST DESCRIBED, IT WOULD GO TO STAFF AND THEN WE'D KIND OF FIGURE IT OUT. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS AND ULTIMATELY PLANS START IN STAFF. IS THAT CORRECT? I BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN HAPPEN BEFORE. YES. DO YOU HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A CULTURAL PLAN FROM ANOTHER CITY? ALL OF THEM? YEAH. NOT WITH ME, BUT BUT COULD YOU PROVIDE US WITH A SAMPLE OF WHAT IT WHAT IT INCLUDES. AND YOU COULD ALSO JUST GO GOOGLE CULTURAL PLAN.

CITY OF WHATEVER. WACO HAS A GOOD ONE. THEY ALL HAVE THEM. AUSTIN HAS A GREAT ONE. DALLAS HAS ONE. THEY ALL HAVE ONE. TIM. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. YEAH. CITIES OF SIMILAR SIZE THOUGH.

ARE WE SMALL TO BE DOING THIS? NO NOT NO. SO I ALWAYS USE THE EXAMPLE OF WINNSBORO POPULATION 3500. YES. BUT WINNSBORO IS A VERY PARTICULAR PLACE. SO SOME PLACE THAT'S THAT'S NOT A WE'RE SMALL AND WE'RE BIG ENOUGH. WE'RE SMALL ENOUGH TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WHY DO WE NOT HAVE A CULTURAL PLAN? NO, I KNOW I JUST INTERESTED IN OTHER CITIES WITH SOMETHING SIMILAR I WOULD FIND. YEAH, IT'S ALL OVER THE INTERNET BECAUSE ALL THAT STUFF IS PUBLIC. YEAH. SO EVERY CULTURAL PLAN OF ANY CITY, ANY IN ANY TOWN IN THE UNITED STATES WILL HAVE A CULTURAL PLAN IF THEY HAVE ONE. JUST JUST DO SOME GOOGLING, OKAY? I DIDN'T MEAN TO SOUND SNIPPY WHEN I SAID THAT. I WAS LIKE, YOU CAN'T GOOGLE, CAN YOU? GOOGLE? WAS I SNIPPY? NO, YOU'RE NEVER YOU'RE ALWAYS

[Items 10.a. - 10.f.]

OKAY. I MEAN IN THE PRESENTATION THAT GOES TO COUNCIL IT COULD BE THAT CAN BE EXPLAINED. SO THAT WHY YOU CHOSE TO SAY SPONSORSHIP IS DESIGNED TO DEFINE IT AS THIS GRANTS ARE DEFINED AS THIS BECAUSE WITHIN THE ARTS COMMUNITY THIS IS HOW THEY'RE RECEIVED. OKAY. COMMON VERNACULAR. YES, SIR. ONE THING I WOULD ASK IS TO ADD A PERCENTAGE OF SOMETHING WE HOLD OVER TO THE NEXT. TO THE RESERVE RESERVE PERCENTAGE. YES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S F OR THAT'D BE G FUND BALANCE. I WOUND UP WRITING A NOTE TO MYSELF. G FUND BALANCE. AND SO THAT. YEAH. AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MR. JACKSON WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT CERTAIN PARTS OF THE FUND CAN BE INTEREST BEARING. OKAY. YES, SIR. OKAY. OKAY. I JUST MADE A BUNCH OF LISTS FOR THE CULTURAL PLAN, SO. BUT WE'RE BEYOND THAT, AND I DID I DID HAVE ONE. YOU MENTIONED OUR JOB RIGHT NOW IS POLICY. I MEAN, OUR JOB IS POLICY. AND LET NONPROFITS COME UP WITH IDEAS TO PRESENT TO US. BUT THEN I ALSO, WHEN I THINK OF THE CITY, AND ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE GOING THROUGH COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, AND ONCE THEY GET ALL THEIR INPUT CAN,

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