Feb 25, 2025 Arts Commission

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AND I LOVE YOU TOO. SO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE ALL HERE. I'M GOING TO GO AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 629 ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 25TH. THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARTS COMMISSION. MR. SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? I DON'T THINK WE DO. YOU HAVE NO

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HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THEM IN YOUR PACKET OR ANY QUESTIONS, ANY COMMENTS, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE CHANGED? WE'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THEM. AND THE MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND. WHO WAS THE SECOND? MARIANNE. SORRY, I CAN TELL YOU NEXT TIME. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR HAND. IT'S UNANIMOUS. NUMBER FOUR ON

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I'LL BE BRIEF. WHY? NOBODY WAS LOOKING. I GOT TOGETHER WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE LAST MONTH AND WE STARTED A DRAWING CLUB. THE FOURTH SATURDAY OF THE MONTH AT 1030 AT THE LIBRARY, OUR FIRST LITTLE SOCIAL. WE HAD ABOUT 15 PEOPLE THERE. OUR SECOND WE HAD 31. YES, SECOND, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW A LITTLE INSIDE SCOOP, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW GALLERY MOVING NEXT DOOR TO THE DUNCANVILLE COMMUNITY THEATER, I PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ADVISORY BOARD. I GUESS IT WAS AT THEIR LAST MEETING TO TELL THEM ABOUT THE NEW CULTURAL DISTRICT AND WHAT ARTS COMMISSION IS DOING. EVERYTHING THAT WE DO HAS A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COMPONENT.

LET'S FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN PARTNER AND WORK TOGETHER. THIS IS PART OF JUST A TREND.

THIS ARTS COMMISSION IS TALKING TO EVERYBODY. I'VE PRESENTED TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING COMMISSION COMMITTEE. I'VE PRESENTED TO PARKS, I'VE PRESENTED TO ENGAGEMENT BOARD.

MAC HAS PRESENTED TO THE CDC. SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT WE'RE DOING. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CREATE SOME INNER COMMISSION BOARD PARTNERSHIPS. LAST, TIM ASKED ME TO TALK ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION. NUMBER 2025423 WAS ADOPTED BY THE DUNCANVILLE CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 4TH.

THIS ESTABLISHES THE CULTURAL DISTRICT NAME, THE CULTURAL DISTRICT BOUNDARY AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE REALLY QUICKLY. WHAT THAT MEANS IS I'M GOING TO READ WHAT EVERYBODY'S MOST INTERESTED IN. THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CULTURAL DISTRICT SHALL ENCOMPASS, AS DEPICTED ON EXHIBIT A, WHICH IS ATTACHED HERE TO AND INCORPORATED HEREIN. THE CONSIDERATION FOR FUTURE EXPANSION IS. OPPORTUNITIES ARISE AND ARE DEEMED APPROPRIATE BY THE STEERING COMMITTEE, THE CITY COUNCIL. THAT STEERING COMMITTEE IS OUTLINED IN THIS RESOLUTION IS A DIRECT REFLECTION OF WHAT THE TEXAS COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS HAS RECOMMENDED. THE CULTURAL DISTRICT MANAGEMENT ENTITY LOOK LIKE. SO WHENEVER CITY HALL GETS THAT IN PLACE, THERE IS GOING TO BE A COMMITTEE IN PLACE. IF ANYONE WANTS MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT ITEM. BUT RIGHT NOW, CITY COUNCIL IS NOT TAKING ANY ACTION ON WHAT THAT COMMITTEE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE OR WHO'S GOING TO BE ON IT. BUT THE RESOLUTION DESCRIBES IS RECOMMENDED FOR. THAT'S MY 209. SORRY. LET'S GO. RIGHT. LET'S GO RIGHT. ATTITUDE LET'S LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU. OKAY I ATTENDED THE ARTS BRIEFING AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THEY PASSED A RESOLUTION. RON DID A GOOD JOB DOING THE PRESENTATION. THEY SAID KEEP IT SHORT. IT WAS A LITTLE LONG. SO MY FAULT. I ALSO ATTENDED IRVING BLACK ARTS COUNCIL. A FEBRUARY EXHIBIT WHICH WERE SELECTIONS FROM THE AUTHOR COLLECTION WITH ANN PERRY, AND IT WAS VERY NICE, ATTENDED THE DUNCANVILLE THEATER OUTSIDE THE MULLIGAN. IT WAS SHOOT PLAY. I ENJOYED THAT TREMENDOUSLY. AND ALSO THE FIRESIDE CHAT FOR BLACK HISTORY PROGRAM THAT THEY HAD LAST WEEK. AND IT WAS REALLY, REALLY NICE. IF YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY, PLEASE GO NEXT YEAR. IS THAT WHAT THE DRUMS IS THAT WHAT THE DRUMS? NO, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WAS AT THE DALE HAWKINS SENIOR CENTER LAST THURSDAY EVENING. I SAW THE VIDEOS OF THE DRUMS AND IT WAS CATERED BY. BUT IT'S A NEW RESTAURANT. SISTER GIRLS, EVERYONE. YEAH, IT WAS REALLY NICE. SO COOL. THANKS, ANGELA. OKAY, WELL, I ATTENDED THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH EVENT WITH ANGELA, AND IT WAS LIKE BEING WITH THE SUPERSTAR BECAUSE EVERYONE KNEW HER THERE AND GREETED HER. AND WE ALSO MET THE ART COLLECTOR AND HAD SOME GOOD EXCHANGE WITH A NUMBER OF PEOPLE. I WENT TO THE PLAY OUTSIDE. THAT WAS GREAT, AND I ALSO WENT TO A WELL. I COORDINATED A WRITERS

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ONE OF THE TECHNIQUES THAT THEY TEACH IS INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE OBJECT IS IT'S FOCUSING ON THE, THE, THE, THE BLACK PART, THE. WHAT'S THAT? NEGATIVE SPACE. THANK YOU.

AND SO MY POEM THIS MONTH IS SKETCH. WHAT'S NOT BEGIN WITH WHAT IS NOTHING BOY. AND IN BLACK AND SHAPELESS. YET IN BLOCKS AND CHIPS OF WHAT ISN'T LIGHT TINT TO BLOCK IN LIGHTEST TINT TO BLOCK. WHERE LIGHT DISPLACED AND LAYERED DEEPLY IN WITH EVERY PASS, EACH STROKE REPEATED FROM VOID IN DARKNESS TO IMAGE, RAISED UP WITH CONTRASTING TINTS AND SHADES AND BLOCKS, UNTIL WITH SHIFTING OF LIGHT FROM DARKNESS PASSED TO FOCUSED LIGHT, A PICTURE SKETCHED. BY. THANK YOU, MATT. THANK YOU. TIFFANY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? COUPLE THINGS. SO I WAS IN THE IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION FOR THE BEST SOUTHWEST. THEIR CELEBRATION IS, OF COURSE, ON THE 19TH OF JUNE THIS YEAR, MEANING THAT IT'S ACTUALLY ON JUNETEENTH. AND SO I THOUGHT THAT MAY BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF BOOTH OR WHAT HAVE YOU. AND I KNOW THAT ANGELA HAS A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DESOTO ARTS COMMISSION. AND SO I WAS FIGURING, BECAUSE IT'S ALL FOUR CITIES. SO WE WANT TO LOOK AT BEING ABLE TO HAVE PRESENCE THERE AND ALSO RECRUIT PEOPLE FOR OUR EMAIL LIST AND ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN AS WE'RE TRYING TO ENGAGE INTO OUR COMMUNITY. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. I DIDN'T TELL YOU I WANT TO TALK TO HER ABOUT IT. SO SINCE HE'S TEACHING, SO THEN WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT AND BRING IT TO YOU GUYS. BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD THING TO JUST ADD ON TO WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. ALSO, I SAW THOSE EMAILS THAT HAD WENT BY ABOUT YOU SAID SOMETHING ON PLANO. YEAH. AND I REALLY LIKE THAT BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU CAME LAST TIME, DEVIN, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS MY POINT IS WE HAVEN'T EVEN CREATED A GRANT PROCESS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE HAVEN'T CREATED AN APPLICATION PROCESS OR ANYTHING. AND LIKE, I FEEL LIKE IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT THAT WE, LIKE, JUST HOLD OUR STANDARDS TO THE SAME AS, LIKE WHEN AN ASK FOR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW. RIGHT. AND SO OR I ASK FOR SOMETHING LIKE AND THOSE WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, WE CAN HELP HER DO CERTAIN THINGS. BUT SHE WE ALL HOLD OURSELVES TO STANDARDS

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YOU DO HAVE THAT AS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA LATER. I KNOW, I KNOW, BUT I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE'RE PUTTING THE DATES ON THE CALENDAR. I'LL PASS THIS AROUND AND SOME OF THE CONCERTS DO INTERSECT WITH SOME OF THE THEATER NIGHTS, WHICH ANYWAY. BUT YOU CAN PASS THIS AROUND AND JUST TAKE A PICTURE OF IT IF YOU WANT, OR ADD SOMETHING TO THE CALENDAR. I HAVE MY BIRTHDAY NATIONAL HOLIDAY. ALEX WOULD BE HELPFUL. I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU COULD TALK TO IF WE COULD DEVELOP AN ARTS CALENDAR ON OUR PART. ANY PART OF THE OUR SPACE ON THE CITY WEBSITE OR OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, THE CITY WEBSITE. IF WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING JUST IN OUR SPACE TO TALK ABOUT CITY ARTS, THAT MIGHT BE REALLY HELPFUL. AND THAT WAY ANN CAN DOESN'T JUST HAVE TO PASS AROUND

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SO DEVIN, DO YOU WANT THE FLOOR? SURE. SO JUST AS A PREAMBLE TO THIS. IT'LL BE ALL DONE TOGETHER. AND I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO DO TWO ACTIONS ON THIS ONE FOR ITEM FIVE FIVE ONE AND ANOTHER FOR ITEM FIVE TWO. OH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. BUT SO LET'S LET'S DO THIS GUYS.

LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE THEY FIT TOGETHER. BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME.

WELL YEAH. SO WE'LL TAKE ACTION ON BOTH ITEMS. BUT LET'S DISCUSS THEM AT THE SAME TIME. SO AND THEN A SECOND PART OF A PRELUDE TO THIS. SO WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO YOU LAST

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OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST SIT HERE SO I CAN WRITE. OR DO I HAVE TO GO UP THERE? THAT'S UP TO WHATEVER WORKS BEST FOR ALL OF YOU. OKAY, I'M GOING TO SIT SO I CAN WRITE THIS. I KNOW I'M GOING TO TAKE NOTES. SO AS ALEX SAID, WE MISUNDERSTOOD OR WE MISINTERPRETED WHAT EXACTLY WAS BEING ASKED FOR US TO PRESENT TO YOU GUYS. SO WHEN I ORIGINALLY PITCHED THIS IDEA TO DOUG CITY MANAGER AS AN EVENT TO KIND OF FILL, TO BECOME A NEW CITY EVENT AND ALSO TO COINCIDE WITH A BAND THAT WAS ALREADY PRE-BOOKED, I CAME TO HIM WITH TWO IDEAS, ONE BEING AN ARTS FESTIVAL AND THEN ONE BEING LIKE A BARBECUE COMPETITION BECAUSE IT WORKED IT. THEY HAD THE IDEA ANYWAYS.

IT DIDN'T. THE BARBECUE IDEA DID NOT PAN OUT. SO WHEN I CAME BACK AND PITCHED IT AS AN ARTS AND MUSIC FESTIVAL, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE AT MANSFELD, CITY MANAGER DOUG LIKED THE IDEA AND ASKED TO PRESENT IT TO YOU GUYS, SO WE MISINTERPRETED WHAT EXACTLY HE WANTED US TO PRESENT TO YOU. AND NOW WE UNDERSTAND. YES. YOU WANT TO MAYBE ADD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE ART MANSFIELD ONE DOES, BECAUSE THEIR ARTS COMMISSION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ONE, CORRECT? NO, IT'S A PARTNER. WELL, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP. OKAY. JUST A NOTE THAT MANSFIELD ARTS COMMISSION IS NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE. CORRECT? THEY DISSOLVED IN NOVEMBER. SURE. I WAS HERE, SO I I'M NOT. NO, I'M LETTING YOU KNOW. YEAH. OKAY. THERE WAS TALK BEFORE I LEFT, BUT THERE WASN'T A FOR SURE. BUT IN THE PAST IT HAD BEEN A CITY PARTNER EVENT WITH THEM. ARTS COMMISSION PARTNERED WITH THEM. SO SORRY. SO THE PROPOSED IDEA SIMILAR WAS AN INAUGURAL EVENT BEGINNING AN ARTS AND MUSIC FESTIVAL TO THE ARMSTRONG PARK CULTURAL DISTRICT DRIVEN BY THE ARTS COMMISSION, OBVIOUSLY GEARED TOWARDS LOCAL RESIDENTS, TOURISTS, ART ENTHUSIASTS AND FAMILIES, BRINGING TOGETHER A DIVERSE, CROSS-GENERATIONAL CROWD. KEY GOALS IS TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN THE ARTS COMMUNITY AND DUNCANVILLE AND SURROUNDING AREAS, BRINGING A NEW EVENT TO THE CITY TO INCREASE TOURISM AND REVENUE. SO WHEN WE SAY REVENUE, KIND OF WHAT THAT MEANS FOR Y'ALL IS A REVENUE OPPORTUNITY FROM APPLICATION FEES THAT WE DO CHARGE FOR SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, ANY DONATIONS, ETC, THAT GO TO THE ARTS COMMISSION AFTER THE CONCLUSION OF THE EVENT AND AFTER ALL EVENT RELATED THINGS ARE PAID. SO IF ANYTHING GOES OVER THE BUDGET, OBVIOUSLY WE'D HAVE TO PAY THAT AND THEN YOU WOULD GET THE REMAINDER. SO FROM APPLICATIONS, IT WOULD BE LIKE THE VENDOR APPLICATIONS FOR ARTS AND RETAIL SCULPTURE CONTEST APPLICATION FEES. IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO A SCULPTURE CONTEST AS WELL AS SPONSORSHIPS. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND A MULTIPLE LEVELS OF SPONSORSHIPS STARTING OUT AS SMALL EVENT SPECIFIC AND GOING INTO YEARLY THE CITY ITSELF. WE HAVE YEARLY SPONSORSHIPS. IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SAY YOU GAIN AN ANNUAL SPONSORSHIP THAT THEY WANT TO BE AN EVENTS ANNUAL SPONSORSHIP, YOU WOULD GET A PORTION OF THAT SPONSORSHIP SO YOU WOULDN'T GET THE WHOLE THING, BUT YOU WOULD GET A PORTION OF THAT YEARLY SPONSORSHIP. IF YOU GET EVENT SPECIFIC SPONSORSHIPS THAT WOULD BE TAUGHT TO YOU SPECIFICALLY.

ALSO NAMING IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT FROM THE SPRING ARTS FESTIVAL, THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL. OR YOU CAN KEEP IT THE SPRING ARTS FESTIVAL. BUT THOSE WERE JUST SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT I AND SOME OTHER COWORKERS CAME UP WITH. IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT OR NOT, YOU CAN LEAVE IT. THIS WOULD BE YOUR EVENT SO YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE WITH IT. WHEN IT COMES TO THAT SECTION,

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BUT THAT IS HOW WE GOT TO THE COST OF TECHNICALLY IS A LITTLE OVER AT 61,000 FOR THE TOTAL OF EVENT. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. THIS IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PHOTO OP UNDER BOOK AND THE ESTIMATE PHOTO OPS. SO I SO THE ONE ON ALREADY BOOKED IS ONE OBVIOUSLY THAT WE HAVE ALREADY BOOKED AND PAID FOR. I ALWAYS LIKE TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE PHOTO OP, SO IT GIVES PEOPLE MORE THAN ONE PHOTO OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO TAKE PICTURES. TAG YOUR EVENT IN POST, ETC. OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A CATEGORY THAT YOU COULD EASILY REMOVE. THAT IS A DECISION TOTALLY UP TO Y'ALL. DO YOU WANT TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE PRIZES? YES. SO WHEN IT COMES TO PRIZES, WHERE IT SAYS THE MONETARY PRIZES FOR WINNERS OF THE CONTEST. SO FOR INSTANCE, THE LIKE THE HIGH SCHOOL ART CONTEST THAT I TALKED TO YOU ALL ABOUT LAST YEAR, LIKE IF YOU OR LAST MEETING IF YOU WANTED TO ESSENTIALLY AWARD THE WINNERS WITH LIKE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR THEIR, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR TO GO TO COLLEGE AS LIKE A WINNER OF THEIR PRIZES, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE CATEGORIZED IN THAT OR LIKE A MONETARY PRIZE FOR THE SCULPTURE CONTEST, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE WANT INCENTIVES TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE THINGS, AND NOT JUST WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE YOUR YOUR ART IS GOING TO BE ON DISPLAY. PEOPLE WANT SOMETHING FOR THEM TO WIN. SO THAT IS WHAT THAT GOES TO. AND AGAIN, THAT'S A HIGH ESTIMATE. HIGH ESTIMATE. YOU CAN CLEARLY TAKE THAT DOWN TO WHATEVER YOU WANT IT TO BE. BUT THAT'S JUST THAT WHAT THAT CATEGORY IS. IT'S JUST TO GIVE THE WINNERS A PRIZE FOR THE CONTESTS THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND HOSTING. YES, MA'AM. SO WHEN IT SAYS ARTISTS FEES, THAT I WOULD THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GIVING US. BUT KNOW THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS. SO LIKE IF YOU'RE CONTRACTING AN ARTIST TO CREATE SOMETHING FOR THE EVENT, OR IF YOU'RE ASKING AN ARTIST TO COME IN AND DO SOMETHING AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, ALL YOU KNOW, I WON'T CHARGE YOU LABOR, BUT IF YOU COULD BUY ME THE MATERIALS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT IT. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. SO ALL THE THINGS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, WOULD THAT MEAN THAT THERE ALREADY HAVE BEEN BOOKED. CORRECT. YES, MA'AM. RIGHT. SO THAT MEANS THAT YOU GUYS ARE PLANNING TO DO THIS WITH OR WITHOUT US, RIGHT. SO YOU WOULD HAVE ALREADY HAD, WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE THE BUDGET TO BOOK SOMEBODY. RIGHT? SO WHAT I'M WONDERING IS, IS, YOU KNOW. I THINK THAT THE ASK FOR SIX. ARE WE ALLOWED TO NOW WE HAVE TO WAIT AND WE'LL JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINANCES. WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS, I JUST I THINK ABOUT THE LAST TWO YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF JUST GIVE YOU AN INSIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THOROUGHLY IS THAT WE ARE NOT EVENTS DRIVEN.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. AND SO NOW HERE WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'VE TAKEN TWO YEARS TO GET ANY BUDGET, EVEN A CHEESE TRAY FROM THE CITY. AND NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WE WANT TO BE PUT IN A POSITION WHERE YOU'VE ALREADY BOOKED THIS, SO YOU'RE DOING THIS REGARDLESS, THEN WE HAVE LESS THAN TWO MONTHS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CREATE A POLICY AND APPLICATION. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE WOULD HAVE LIKE LESS THAN 90 DAYS, WHICH I, YOU KNOW, I DO FESTIVALS AND EVERYTHING EVERY DAY. SO I JUST LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REALISTICALLY YOU WANT 9 TO 12 MONTHS TO PLAN. BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO GET OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND GET THE KPI THAT'S NECESSARY TO REALLY SECURE SPONSORS THE FIRST YEAR, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S SUPER POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE IS NO KPIS, THERE'S NO ROI, THERE'S NO NUMBERS, RIGHT? AND WHEN WE LOOK BACK AT THE SUCCESS RATE OF THE CITY HAD, THE LAST EVENT YOU HAD WAS JULY 4TH, AND THAT WAS A THREE DAY EVENT AND IT DID NOT TURN OUT WELL. SO I'M REALLY HESITANT. I FEEL LIKE IF WE DID INVEST SOMETHING, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE MORE LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BOOTH OR SOMETHING FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION, RIGHT? AS AN

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AND BASED ON OUR OWN EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE OFFERED $50,000 LAST YEAR AND BROUGHT IN BY ANOTHER PERSON WHO DID SPECIAL EVENTS. RIGHT. AND IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE'S $450,000 THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AVAILABLE. SO WHY WE'RE GETTING ASKED FOR $60,000. I THINK THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT IS NECESSARY, BUT NOT FOR NECESSARY FOR ARTS COMMISSION. THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS ENTERTAINED BY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD, JUST LIKE WE HAVE A BOARD. BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE PROTECTIVE OF OUR MONEY. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD FUND THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE A BUDGET HERE. YES, SIR. SO MAYBE I MISSED THIS. WELL, I THINK WHEN. SO. SO FIRST OF ALL, ARE YOU ASKING US TO FUND IT? AND SECONDLY, I THINK WHEN YOU SAY 150,000, IT'S A HOT FUNDS, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YEAH. SO DOES THIS EVEN QUALIFY OR IS THIS IS THAT WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PULL THIS MONEY FROM? IS THAT WHERE WE'RE AT? I DIDN'T KNOW THIS. SO. YES.

YOU'RE ASKING US TO PULL IT. PULL IT FROM OUR HOT FUNDS? YES. OKAY. TECHNICALLY WHAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU IS TO RECOMMEND THAT CITY COUNCIL DO IT JUST FOR CLARITY. YEAH. SO JUST REMEMBER, WE'RE ADVISORY. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN CITY COUNCIL WILL TAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION. WELL TO, TO. AND THEN THEY WOULD VOTE ON A RECOMMENDATION IF THEY CHOSE TO TAKE ACTION ON IT. AND IF THEY TOOK ACTION ON IT, WHERE WOULD THE MONEY BE COMING FROM? IT WOULD COME FROM THE DECK OF THE LAWRENCE FUND. YEAH, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. BUT YOU FUNDRAISING. SO WHAT IS GOING TO BE COULD YOU GO OVER AGAIN? WHAT WILL. SO WE'RE TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE FUNDRAISING PORTION OF IT. BECAUSE WHEN WE WHEN I MET WITH HIM, WE DID DISCUSS THAT PART. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE MONEY THAT WAS RAISED BY L'AFFAIRE, THIS WOULD COUNT AS THAT MONEY. SO GO BACK A COUPLE OF THINGS. GO BACK A COUPLE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE. WHEN YOU DO HAVE A POLICY AND THAT POLICY HAS BEEN DECIDED BY CITY COUNCIL. SO AT THAT POINT, AT THIS POINT, YOU DO HAVE A POLICY THAT IS DIRECTING HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT, BECAUSE AGAIN, AS AN ADVISORY BOARD, IT'S THEIR POLICY FOR HOW YOU FUNCTION WITH THAT FUND. AS BEST AS I UNDERSTAND IT. BUT THAT PART OF THE POLICY, THAT POLICY RELATES TO THE HOT FUNDS. SO THAT'S THE THING THAT WAS ADOPTED AS PART OF THE NEW BUDGET LINE. THE FAIR MONEY ACCOUNTS AS ENTERPRISE REVENUE. AND THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD TO THAT THEN, THAT THOSE EXPENSES WOULD FALL UNDER THE CURRENT CITY POLICY. ULTIMATELY, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE CITY MANAGER UP TO A CERTAIN EXPENSE AT A CERTAIN LEVEL, AND THEN IT WOULD BE UP TO CITY COUNCIL PASSED THAT LEVEL. BUT THE FAIR MONEY, HOW MUCH WAS THAT? WAS THAT $200, $400. SO

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WE PUT IT OUT THERE. HOW ARE WE GOING TO INDICATE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL? BECAUSE BY EVERYTHING YOU'VE SHOWN US AND BASED ON THE CURRENT TIMELINE, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE UNSUCCESSFUL. AND THEN THAT REFLECTS ON OUR NAME AND THE REPUTATION WE BUILT FOR TWO YEARS. SO I'M VERY PROTECTIVE OF WHAT WE DID, BECAUSE THIS IS OUR LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR. AND THE QUESTION IS, IS WHAT DO WE LEAVE FOR THIS NEXT YEAR? YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FOUGHT HARD. WE HAVE WORKED HARD. WE HAVE SHOWED UP WITH NO ONE HAS SHOWED UP. WHEN THE CITY EMPLOYEES DIDN'T SHOW UP TO OUR EVENTS, WE WERE STILL THERE WORKING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND I DON'T FEEL IT'S FAIR TO EVEN I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE REACHED OUR TABLE IN THIS CAPACITY. AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. YOU ARE LOVELY, OKAY. AND YOU'RE VERY SMART, RIGHT? AND, ALEX, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU BRING TO THE TABLE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, AS IS, I DON'T EVEN FEEL IT'S FAIR FOR US TO BE QUESTIONED. I THINK THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN AUTOMATIC FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE JUST NOW GETTING THE FUND, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT. WE HAVE THE ABILITY YET TO MAKE A CALL WHEN SOMETHING THIS HUGE TO GIVE AWAY HALF OF OUR ABILITY TO ACCESS THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE GREAT PROGRAMING. AND THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING 100% LIKE THAT.

YOU. A QUESTION? YES, SIR. SO BESIDES FUNDING. WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU SEE AS DOING HANDS ON, IF ANYTHING, BESIDES MAYBE A BOOTH OR SOMETHING, OR AN ART PROJECT FOR ONE OF THE THINGS, RIGHT. SO I. I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT Y'ALL TO NOT JUST HAVE A BOOTH AND AN INTERACTIVE EXPERIENCE, BUT I WOULD WANT Y'ALL TO BE A PART OF, YOU KNOW, FINDING THE LOCAL ARTISTS THAT COME IN TO EITHER CREATE ART OR DO A DEMONSTRATION, OR FIND PERFORMERS THAT COME IN AND PERFORM ON THE STAGE BEFORE EMERALD CITY BAND. BECAUSE I ANTICIPATE THAT Y'ALL KNOW A LOT OF DIFFERENT ARTISTS AND DIFFERENT REALMS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING AREAS A LOT MORE THAN I DO BEING NEW TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I WOULD LOVE, YOU KNOW, YOUR HELP AND HAVING, YOU KNOW, GETTING ARTISTS WHO WANT TO COME IN, WHO WANT TO HAVE THEIR OWN BOOTH DEMONSTRATION, WHO WANT TO SELL THEIR ART AT THE VENDOR MARKET, WHO WANT TO BE A PART OF HELPING WITH, YOU KNOW, CREATING A SCULPTURE FOR THE SCULPTURE CONTEST OR HAVING A GROUP OF KIDS THAT WANT TO BE A PART OF THE ART CONTEST, THINGS LIKE THAT, HELPING WITH PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD WANT TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS ART EVENT AS WELL. SO WE'VE DONE THESE MIXERS AND BUT THIS SIDE OF IT, I DON'T SEE THAT THIS IS THAT DIFFERENT, MAYBE BIGGER SCALE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME KINDS OF THINGS THAT I'M WRONG. IS THAT GETTING PEOPLE HEADING, BECAUSE IT MAY BE PUTTING A LOT OF ACTIVITY, BUT WE'VE DONE SIMILAR THINGS. SMALLER SCALE. RIGHT? YES AND YES AND NO, IT'S NOT. I WOULDN'T SAY NECESSARILY A MIXER WHEN YOU'RE INVOLVING MORE OF LIKE, YOU WANT MORE OF THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND SEE THESE ART EXPERIENCES AND LEARN MORE THINGS AND SEE MORE, YOU KNOW, PERFORMANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT IS A LARGER ART AND MUSIC EVENT FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO WHILE THERE CAN BE 100% NETWORKING BETWEEN LIKE DIFFERENT ARTISTS THAT YOU'RE HAVING COME IN AND DOING DOING DIFFERENT THINGS, WHETHER THEY'RE HOSTING A HANDS ON INTERACTIVE EXPERIENCE OR TALKING ON THE STAGE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE HOSTING OR HAVING A BOOTH TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE NEW TO THE CITY, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, OR HAVING A BOOTH SELLING THEIR ART. AND THE SCALE OF THOSE THINGS. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WE'VE HAD MUSICIANS, WE'VE HAD

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YEAH, YEAH. AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA. AND I COULD EVEN SEE IF IT WAS IN ITS FIFTH YEAR OR SOMETHING. I THINK IT'S IN ITS FIRST YEAR. AND SO IT'S JUST IN ITS FIRST YEAR, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO GO. RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT IF WE HAD LIKE A I DON'T EVEN CARE WHAT COLOR BUDGET WE HAD, I JUST THINK IT'S ABOUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IS ALWAYS PUTTING OUR, OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD. AND I THINK WE AS A COMMISSION HAVE ROSE TO THE OCCASION EVERY SINGLE TIME. AND I FEEL LIKE AS LONG AS IT'S TAKEN US TO GET THIS MONEY LIKE THEY SHOULD, WE SHOULD BE FUNDING THOSE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE TABLE. AND PEOPLE WERE ALREADY ASKED TO GET FUNDED. RIGHT. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T FUND THIS BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE SHOULD. WE COULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT IT, RIGHT. WITH WHETHER YOU WANT TO HAVE A SCULPTURE CONTEST OR SOMETHING, OR IF WE WANT TO HAVE A NICE INACTIVATION BOOTH THAT WE CREATE INTERNALLY AND BE ABLE TO PAY FOR OURSELVES. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING. RIGHT. AND I THINK IT'S ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT AND MAKING SURE OUR ARTS IS ON DISPLAY. I DON'T THINK THAT WE I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION, BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE IT WOULD BENEFIT US TO OWN THIS A B WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO OWN IT. WE DON'T HAVE $60,000. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, NOW EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT BUSINESS PRACTICES. IT JUST HAS A BUSINESS WOMAN THAT DOES THIS EVERY DAY. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND WE ASK ANYBODY FOR THIS TYPE OF MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT'S LESS THAN TWO MONTHS OUT. THEN WE FIND OUT WE GOT TO BE THE ONES SELLING IT. THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE GOT TO TURN AROUND AND FIND THE ARTIST. FIND THE PEOPLE. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. LIKE, WHAT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THIS? WHAT WOULD BE A TIME FRAME THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE? NINE MONTHS? LIKE, LIKE REALISTICALLY, IF IT WAS AN EVENT THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN DONE, IF YOU WOULD HAVE CAME TO US IN SIX MONTHS AGO AND SAID, HEY, YOU GUYS, WHAT ABOUT GETTING THE BEING A TITLE SPONSOR, RIGHT? IF WE WERE VOLKSWAGEN, IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING IT. WE'RE AN INTERNAL CITY ENTITY WHO HAS JUST GOT A NEW BUDGET. WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ABLE TO GIVE THE BUDGET OR LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT IT AND SEE WHAT KIND OF GREAT THINGS I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T FILM FESTIVAL GUY THAT I WAS TALKING TO WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT LAST TIME, I WAS TELLING THEM ABOUT ANNE, AND SHE WANTS TO DO A FILM FESTIVAL. RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS LIKE, WELL, HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF GETTING A BRANCH OF A FILM FESTIVAL ALREADY GOING AND BRINGING THAT ALSO TO DUNCANVILLE? WHY? BECAUSE NOW IT'S ALREADY BUILT, RIGHT? AND THAT'S DIFFERENT. THIS IS A BRAND NEW THING, AND I THINK THE CONCEPT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SAY. NOW, IF YOU WOULD HAVE CAME IN AND SAID, OKAY, LET'S DO A HOLIDAY FEST, WELL THEN WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WHAT SENSE DOES IT MAKE AND HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE WILLING TO INVEST IN THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. PEOPLE ARE ALREADY GOING TO BE THERE REGARDLESS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD TRAFFIC, RIGHT? IT ALSO CREATES GREAT HOLIDAY MEMORIES FOR KIDS IN THEIR FAMILIES. RIGHT. AND WE CAN ALSO THE WAY YOU DO IT NOW, IT'S SO MUCH BIGGER. AND NOW WE CAN ENTICE THAT. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT A WINTER WONDERLAND. THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TIME THAT WE'RE IN MARCH. SO BY THE TIME WE MEET AGAIN, IT'S WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE THE END OF MARCH. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IS JUST A WORKSHOP SOMETHING TO COME BACK TO YOU? I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY AT APRIL 1ST, SO WE HAVE LITERALLY 31 DAYS TO SELL, TO BUILD, TO FIND PEOPLE, TO DO IT AND TO PAY FOR. AND WE'VE GOT TO PAY FOR IT. WE'VE GOT TO PAY TO DO ALL THAT. SO YOU TALKED YOU TALKED ABOUT SPONSORSHIP AND I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME. HOW MUCH TIME FOR A CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP DOES IT NORMALLY TAKE TO GET THEM ON BOARD FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, A LOCAL SPONSORSHIP OR SOMETHING THAT'S STATEWIDE? YOU WANT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING FROM? IF SOMEONE YOU ALREADY KNOW ANYWHERE FROM SIX WEEKS TO 12 WEEKS, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NATIONAL, YOU WANT TO LOOK AT A FOOTPRINT OF ABOUT SIX MONTHS, RIGHT? IF YOU WANT TO GET IF WE WANTED TO GET LARGER SPONSORS, RIGHT, WE COULD DO THAT.

HOWEVER, I THINK THAT IT HAS TO BE LIKE ON PURPOSE, THE WAY WE GO ABOUT DOING IT. RIGHT. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE NO NUMBERS, RIGHT. CHRISTMAS ALREADY HAS NUMBERS, RIGHT? SO WE ALREADY HAVE KBR, WE ALREADY HAVE PICTURES, WE ALREADY HAVE THESE THINGS. SO I'M NOT DISMANTLING THE IDEA. I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT I THINK THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN SUCCEED AT BECAUSE IT REFLECTS YOU AND ALEX AS WELL. RIGHT? AND WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE LAST PERSON DID NOT SUCCEED. YOU'RE NOT HERE. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE. SO LET'S BE CLEAR.

RIGHT. SO WE WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT OUR REPUTATION IS ALWAYS AT PAR, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'VE LEFT IT AS OF RIGHT NOW. WE'VE DONE THIS COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS, OKAY. ANY I AGREE WITH TIFFANY ON A LOT OF THOSE MAJOR POINTS. I THINK I WAS ALL IN, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WAS ALL IN FOR 60,000, BUT I WAS ALL IN WHEN IT WAS A SPONSORSHIP. BUT WHEN I READ THE PLANNING AND HOSTING WORDS HERE, I KIND OF TOOK A DEEP GULP AND WENT, WE'RE AN ALL VOLUNTEER COMMISSION AND WE DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH, I DON'T THINK. AND SO THAT THAT WORRIED ME A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK THAT'S SCALABLE. AND YOU CAN DETERMINE THE SCALE THAT YOU WANT, THAT INVOLVEMENT. IT'S MOSTLY YOU DIRECTING. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE.

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IT WOULDN'T BE US JUST DOING TOO MUCH, BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF THIS PLANNING FOR MONTHS. BUT I HAVE I HAVE SOME OF YOUR SAME CONCERNS ABOUT THE ARTS COMMISSION PLANNING AND HOSTING THOSE WORDS. RIGHT. THERE ARE VERY A LITTLE BIT SCARY TO ME. AND PART OF THAT'S PERSONAL. I MEAN, THE THEATER OPENS A SHOW THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND AND I START THINKING ABOUT, I DON'T WANT TO LET ANYBODY DOWN AND WHAT DO I HAVE BANDWIDTH WISE TO GIVE. BUT I DO THINK I AM APPRECIATIVE OF THE OPPORTUNITY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT DOUG WAS PROBABLY TRYING TO DO, AND LIKEWISE YOU GUYS, BUT I THINK IT'S A LOT FOR US TO THROW TOGETHER IN TWO MONTHS IF WE COULD SCALE USING ALEX'S WORDS, IF WE COULD SCALE THAT SOME TO THE MORE OF A SPONSORSHIP AND A COLLABORATION PERHAPS, AND I DON'T, AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK THAT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. I THINK IT'S I LOVE THE ENGAGEMENT PART OF IT. RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST MAYBE TAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE WE ALL LIKE, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE ALWAYS WANT TO DO THINGS THAT MAKE DUNCANVILLE LOOK GOOD. RIGHT? AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE PUT OUR HANDS ON, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK GOOD AND THAT WE HAVE A HIGHER SUCCESS RATE THAN WE HAVE A FAILURE RATE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH, YOU KNOW, MISS JACKSON, SHE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. LIKE, SHE UNDERSTANDS THAT THE TIME AND THE TIME CONSTRAINTS AND WE YOU HAD WASN'T HERE, BUT WE WAS WHEN THE LAST TIME YOU KNOW, FOR JUNETEENTH. YOU KNOW, YOU ALL TOLD US WE WAS GETTING $50,000.

WE HAD PLANNED ALL THESE GREAT THINGS. NOTHING HAPPENED. AND THEN WE WERE IN THERE DOING THE MOST OKAY, BUT WE GOT IT DONE. RIGHT. BUT WHO WANTS TO OPERATE UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES IF WE DON'T HAVE TO? AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE FAIR TO ALL OF US TO IN OUR TIME, BECAUSE THIS IS A PRIVILEGE FOR US TO SERVE. AND WE ARE SERVING ON BEHALF OF ALL THESE RESIDENTS AND CONSTITUENTS OF DUNCANVILLE THAT DON'T HAVE TIME TO BE HERE. THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO SERVE, BUT THEY DESERVE GREAT QUALITY ENTERTAINMENT AND ENGAGEMENT IN THEIR COMMUNITY. YES, MA'AM. SO WHEN IT SAYS THAT EMERALD CITY IS BOOKED, YOU CAN'T CANCEL THAT, CAN YOU? SO THEY'RE COMING. IT'S. THE EVENT IS HAPPENING. YEAH. THAT EVENT IS HAPPENING. YES. SO IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO AGAIN SCALED DOWN FROM HOSTING, THROWING BIG STUFF THAT WE COULD DO? WELL, THE GOAL ISN'T TO SCALE THE EVENT THAT PARTICIPATION, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO.

I BELIEVE WE CAN WORK TO SCALE THAT PRESSURE ON YOU. YEAH, THAT'S I MEAN, BECAUSE YES, THERE IS STAFF AND STAFF IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED AND THERE'S AN EVENT PLANNER THAT I'VE.

MAYBE WE COULD DO LIKE A PHOTO OF THAT. BUT IT WAS THOSE WE'RE PLANNING AND HOSTING THAT WHOLE HOSTING THING. AND I HOST A LOT OF EVENTS. AND I START THINKING ABOUT THAT WORKLOAD AND I GO, OOH, THOSE WORDS SCARE ME. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, I MEAN, SHE'S ALREADY ENGAGED AND WORKING ON IT. SO IT IS A MATTER OF BRANDING IT. IS IT THE ARTS COMMISSION'S SPRING ARTS FESTIVAL, ARTS AND MUSIC FESTIVAL, BLOSSOM FESTIVAL STARTING TO BLOSSOM? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT I LIKE THEM. THANK YOU. I DID TOO TOO. BUT I THINK THAT WE COULD DO WELL, LIKE IAN. ALWAYS. LISTEN, I'M GOING TO LISTEN. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU YOUR CREDIT, BABY. Y'ALL BETTER LISTEN UP. LISTEN. SHE SHE HAS CAME WITH TO US WITH SO MANY GOOD IDEAS. BUT THIS IS LIKE TO ME AS IF WE DID SOMETHING THAT WAS AN ACTIVATION. LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO A FUN ACTIVATION AT THE ACTUAL FESTIVAL AND LIKE DO SOMETHING LIKE AN CAME UP WITH THESE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH MCMILLEN. AND MAYBE THIS IS HOW WE INCORPORATE THE MOVIE NIGHT. MAYBE THIS IS WHEN WE DO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO, AND WE HAVE SCULPTURES UP IN THE GARDEN, RIGHT? WHEN YOU WALK UP THERE BY THE STREET, YOU KNOW THAT WHEN IT GETS A LITTLE THING THAT HAS THE FLOWERS, MAYBE WE

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ARE YOU READY FOR US TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION OR DID YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ON WITH YOUR PRESENTATION AS YOU HAVE IT? BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF HARD QUESTIONS, RIGHT? NO, I SORT OF FEELS LIKE YOU'RE AT THE DISCUSSION. RIGHT. SO. YEAH. SO. 30 MINUTES LATER, LOOK, IT'S BEEN A HARD 24 MONTHS. WE'RE SALTY. NO, I UNDERSTAND FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH JUMPING IN. AND THIS IS IT'S I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO WORK IN CITY HALL. BRAND NEW SPACE, BRAND NEW EVENT, LOTS OF ACTIVITY. THIS IS A VIBRANT CITY HALL. IT'S A VIBRANT CITY COUNCIL AND MAZEL TOV. IT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS DIFFICULT. AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS IS THIS IS MY THINKING ON IT. BEFORE WE GET TO THE POINT, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A VOTE AND ALL TRANSPARENCY. I LOVE THE IDEA OF A SPRING FESTIVAL. IN FACT, I SENT AN EMAIL TO DEB AND SAID, HEY, WHAT ABOUT A FALL FESTIVAL? AND THEN I IMMEDIATELY STARTED PUMPING THE BRAKES AND SAID, I CAN'T. WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT POLICIES. WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT.

AND I CALLED MY OWN JETS, AND I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT POLICY. ALEX AND I HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS ON POLICY. THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS FUND IS A POLICY THAT OUTLINES WHAT'S ALLOWED THROUGH HOT REVENUE LAWS. A FUNDING POLICY IS BY WHICH A FUNDING ORGANIZATION IS DETERMINED WHAT IS ITS STRATEGY AND THE DIRECTION BY WHICH THEY APPLY THOSE FUNDS. SO THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS FUND WILL ALWAYS LOOK LIKE THAT, BUT EACH COMMISSION WILL BE DIFFERENT. SO IN TEN YEARS, YOU COULD HAVE A COMMISSION LIKE WE'VE REALLY GOT TO IMPROVE OUR, OUR, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE ARTS. SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE NEXT THREE YEARS FOCUSING ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN CREATE A FUNDING POLICY AROUND THAT. SO THIS ARTS COMMISSION CREATED A SUBGROUP ON POLICIES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HITTING DOWN IS WHAT INTERFERES WITH THE ABILITY TO FOR PEOPLE TO CREATE ART EXPERIENCES AND WHAT INTERFERES WITH PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE THEM. SO AND FOR 24 MONTHS, WE HAVE WE HAVE CONTINUALLY SAID TO CITY COUNCIL, IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE PROFESSIONAL, IN ORDER FOR THIS TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AMATEUR HOUR IS OVER. WE CAN'T TAKE AD HOC CONSIDERATIONS. WE HAVE TO HAVE STRATEGY. AND FOR 24 MONTHS WE'VE BEEN TELLING THEM HOW IMPORTANT POLICIES AND STRATEGY AND METRICS TRACKING IS. MY CONCERN IS IF SUDDENLY WE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE TWO MONTHS TO SPEND ALMOST HALF OF OUR BUDGET ON SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY STRATEGY FOR. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A LOSS OF CREDIBILITY WITH CITY COUNCIL. AND I'M JUST RUNNING DOWN NOTES THAT THAT THAT TIFFANY WAS SAYING FOR THE ESTIMATES FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS NINE MONTHS AND ANYWHERE FROM SIX WEEKS TO 12 MONTHS TO GET SOME REALLY GOOD SPONSOR RELATIONSHIPS. WHAT I LOVED ABOUT THIS WAS IT WAS BIG, IT WAS SPLASHY. IT WAS FUN, AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD NEW STAKEHOLDERS. THIS IS WHAT I WAS TAKING NOTES ON, GALVANIZE THE COMMUNITY, EXPLORE FUNDING, PARTNERSHIPS, LOTS OF PR AND CELEBRATION FOR CULTURAL DISTRICTS ABOUT OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT. BUT EVERYTHING THAT I LIKE ABOUT IT, THE TIMELINE ELIMINATES IT. THAT'S MY CONCERN FOR IT. SO IT'S I FEEL LIKE NEXT YEAR WILL BE PHENOMENAL. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A COOL THING. WE JUST DON'T HAVE A LOT BASED ON TIFFANY'S ESTIMATIONS. WE'RE OUT OF TIME FOR IT TO BE REALLY QUALITY. AND THE LAST IS I AM SO CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING CREDIBILITY IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL. WE'VE TOLD THEM WHAT A PROFESSIONAL ARTS COMMISSION DOES. WE SHOWED THEM EXAMPLES OF WHAT A PROFESSIONAL ARTS COMMISSION DOES. WE TELL THEM WE WANT TO. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSIONS, THAT OUR PROBLEMS ARE NOT THEIR PROBLEMS. AND HONESTLY, WE'VE BEEN DOING A REALLY GOOD MAKING SURE THAT OUR PROBLEMS ARE OUR OWN. SO FOR THAT, THAT ALONE, IF THIS ARTS COMMISSION HAD A LIKELY YOU SAW THE THING FOR THE CITY OF PLANO, IT HAD A GRANT FUNDING CYCLE. IT HAD AN APPLICATION. IT HAD HOW THE ARTS COMMISSION DETERMINED WHAT WAS ACCESSIBLE APPLICATION. IT'S ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT TO SAY NOW AS, AS A AS A POTENTIAL RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATION, WE'RE THE RIGHT NOW. ARTS COMMISSION IS THE ONLY BODY BESIDES CITY COUNCIL THAT HAS ANY DIRECTION FOR HOT REVENUE. DDC, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, NO LONGER. THEY'RE OUT OF THE HOT GAME. IT'S JUST US. IT'S JUST OUR LITTLE 15% SLIVER. WE HAVE

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ET CETERA. WE HAD ABOUT 200 PEOPLE INVOLVED ULTIMATELY, BUT ON THIS I'M TRYING TO PICTURE IT. IS IT JUST A FOUR BY EIGHT PIECE OF PLYWOOD THAT SOMEONE HAS PAINTED TO MOVE TO THE PARK? THAT'S DOABLE, BUT IT WOULD TAKE LET'S SAY WE WORKED ON IT. YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A PROJECT OF THIS GROUP, BUT INDIVIDUALLY MAY BE CARRIED OUT. SO IT FEELS LIKE WE COULD WE COULD TACKLE SOME OF THIS AND CONTRIBUTE TO IT. BUT IT IS DIFFICULT TO GET THE SURPRISE TONIGHT. YOU KNOW, AND THEN NOT TO HAVE LIKE LOTS OF MEETINGS SET UP TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON IT. AND SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME, YOU KNOW, DIVERSIFIED ACTIVITY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT THE TABLE, BUT RATHER, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING. SO AND THEY INCLUDED IN ON THE AGENDA PLANNING MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, TEAMS DO SCHEDULE THOSE DISCUSSIONS IF THERE IS A MOVE FORWARD, IF THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO HELP. THEY ACTUALLY DID HAVE THIS TO INCLUDE THEY DID PLANNING SESSIONS. I'M SORRY.

IT'S ON THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITSELF. OH, OKAY. I THINK WHAT THE FESTIVAL MEANS IS THAT NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER NICE ACTIVITY FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY IN THE SPRING. WE HAVE ONE IN THE SUMMER. WINTER. THERE'S NO LEARNING CURVE IN TERMS OF PUTTING ONE OF THESE ON. THE CITY HAS DONE IT MULTIPLE YEARS. THEY DO A GOOD JOB. THEY PUT THE FENCES, THEY GET THE VENDORS, YOU KNOW, THEY DO THE WORK. THE SO THAT'S THAT'S NOT OUR THAT'S NOT WE HAVE TO DO SO. I WONDER IF THE CITY DOESN'T IF, IF, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET OUR $60,000, IT'S GOT TO MOVE FORWARD ANYWAY.

SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME FROM SOMEBODY ELSE. IF THE ARTS COMMISSION. I LOVE THE IDEA THAT. THAT FOR US, IT'S THE NEXT STEP UP IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE ASSOCIATED WITH IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, PUTTING OUR NAME ON SOMETHING. I'M LESS WORRIED ABOUT OUR REPUTATION, QUITE HONESTLY. I THINK WE'RE STILL NEW. IT'S ALL NEW. WE'RE ALL WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT OCCASIONALLY. THAT'S WHAT I THINK. I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE WE CAN'T DO IN THE TIME FRAME THAT YOU'RE ASKING, OR COULD BE ASKED TO CONTEST. THAT'S WE'VE TRIED SOME OF THAT AND IT'S HARD AND IT TAKES TIME FINDING MAYBE SOME MURAL ARTISTS. THAT'S DOABLE.

THAT'S DOABLE. SO, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE STACK HERE, I WAS TRYING TO IDENTIFY THINGS

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YEAH. DOES THAT ANSWER IT FOR YOU? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SORT OF. I'M SORRY I HAVE A QUESTION THAT SORT OF PIGGYBACKS OFF OF YOURS. SO WHEN YOU DO THIS EVENT AND SOME OF IT QUALIFIES FOR HOT FUN, CAN YOU NOT APPLY AND GET THE REIMBURSEMENT ON THE HOT FUNDS? YES I CAN OKAY. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. OKAY. I MEAN, 1ST MARCH IS SATURDAY WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS. THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN DO THAT. REALLY. WE'RE WONDERFUL AND GREAT. BUT I THINK THAT'S. YEAH. SORRY. SO WHEN I FIRST HEARD YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE SLIDES, I AT FIRST TOOK IT AS A COMPLIMENT BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, WOW, THEY REALLY THINK WE COULD DO THIS? AND WE COULD BECAUSE WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE. BUT LIKE EVERYONE HAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE TIME AND THE AMOUNT, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S VERY WISE TO DO THAT. HOWEVER, LIKE I DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE A PART OF THIS AND WE DEFINITELY SHOULD HAVE A PRESENCE. I THINK COLLABORATING, YOU KNOW, AND HAVING SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO, LIKE TIM WAS SAYING, MAYBE WE HAVE A BOOTH OR MAYBE WE HELP WITH THE SOCIAL POST, WE HELP PROMOTE IT. YOU KNOW, THAT WAY, I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE SOME WAY WE COULD HELP. I THOUGHT ABOUT THE ART CONTEST TOO, BUT I, I KIND OF REMEMBER HOW IT WENT LAST TIME, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD BE DOABLE. BUT ANYWAY, I THINK I THINK JUST LIKE COLLABORATING WITH YOU GUYS AND YOU KNOW, BEING PART OF IT IS DEFINITELY WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND DEFINITELY WHAT I WANT TO DO. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE RANGE, I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 5 AND 7000 IF I HAD TO VOTE ON SOMETHING. BUT YEAH, WELL, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US BE A PART OF IT BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY WANT TO. YEAH. THANK YOU. SARAH. AMY.

YEAH, I HAVE MY FEELINGS ACTUALLY ARE ENCOMPASSED BY A LOT OF WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAID.

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THEY HUNG THOSE, AND THOSE STAYED UP FOR A WEEKEND. IT WAS A WEEKEND EVENT AND SO THAT WAS COOL TO ONCE AGAIN, IT INVOLVED ALL OF THE AGES. AND GRANDPARENTS WERE THERE WITH KIDS AND TEENAGERS AND EVERYBODY WAS PAINTING. I THINK THESE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE COULD HAVE IN THE PARK AND INVOLVE DIFFERENT AGES AND THOSE, THOSE TWO KINDS OF ACTIVITIES DON'T TAKE A LOT OF LONG TERM PLANNING, BUT YET THEY'RE REALLY COOL THINGS THAT PEOPLE LIKE I.

SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BE TO COLLABORATE IN SOME WAY WITH THAT. AND SO THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE KINDS OF IDEAS OR SOME HISTORY THERE. YEAH, BUT I THINK WE PROBABLY 60,000. I'M MORE LIKE IN THE 10,000. YOU KNOW WHAT? LIKE SHE WAS SAYING SUPPLIES.

WHAT CAN WE DO IF WE CAN IF WE CAN OWN A PARTICULAR AREA OF IT AND SAY WE'RE PART OF IT? I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF A BOOTH, BUT I'M NOT A BOOTH PERSON BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE STUCK THERE, AND I REALLY LIKE TO GO AROUND AND MEET AND GREET PEOPLE AND TALK TO THEM AND DO THINGS.

AND SO I'M NEVER A FAN OF BOOTHS IN MY BUSINESS WORLD OR ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I DO THINK A PRESENCE AND I THINK FINANCIAL COMMITMENT IS SOME ENDORSEMENT WOULD BE GOOD. I DON'T THINK THAT I AGREE WITH, WITH TIFFANY, THAT I DON'T THINK THAT AT THIS POINT IN OUR INAUGURAL CAREER AS A COMMISSION THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LARGE INVESTMENT FOR US. BUT I DO THINK THAT SOME COMMITMENT WOULD SHOW SUPPORT. SO I THINK COLLABORATION IN SOME MODEST AMOUNT OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT WOULD BE GOOD. YES. OKAY. I'M ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO HELP COME UP WITH THE POLICIES. AND I DIDN'T THINK WE COULD SPEND ANY MONEY OR OFFER ANY MONEY OR ANYTHING UNTIL WE GOT THOSE IN PLACE. AM I MISTAKEN IN THAT? YOU'RE NOT MISTAKEN IN THAT. OKAY. SO I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN. SO LET ME LET ME BACK UP ON THAT. LET ME CLARIFY THAT. SO WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS FUND HAS IT'S BASED ON HOT REVENUE LAWS. AND SO EACH MUNICIPALITY KIND OF GUIDES HOW IT DOES THOSE. SO IF YOU IF YOU IF YOU LOOKED AT THE DAFF GUIDELINES, IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC WHAT WE CAN FUND. SO THINGS WE'VE SAID TO CITY COUNCIL AT OUR JOINT MEETING WAS WE NEED AN APPLICATION PROCESS SO THAT IT'S EQUITABLE. WE NEED AN EVALUATION PROCESS SO THAT IT'S TRANSPARENT. WE NEED TO HAVE A BREADTH OF DIFFERENT FUNDING APPLICATIONS SO THAT IT'S SUSTAINABLE. SO THOSE THREE THINGS REQUIRE MORE THAN JUST YEAH, THAT'S COMPLIES WITH THE LAW. IT'S HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS. WHAT IS OUR STRATEGY. SO I DON'T WANT TO BE IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL SAYING, WELL, WE RECOMMEND $60,000 FOR THIS BECAUSE IT'S WONDERFUL. WE ALL THINK IT'S WONDERFUL. SO LET'S DO 60. AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER AT LARGE IS GOING TO LOOK AT ME AND SAY, MR. THOMPSON, WHAT ABOUT WHEN YOU TOLD US X, Y, Z? SO THERE IS PERHAPS SOME THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY, I DON'T KNOW. AGAIN, IT'S A SPEED THING. I WOULD NOT VOTE FOR ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUNDING UNTIL WE HAVE A POLICY. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A DOLLAR NOW THAT 400, THAT'S NOT PART OF WE. THAT'S A LITTLE PLAYING ROOM. BUT WITHOUT A FUNDING POLICY THAT SAYS THIS ARTS COMMISSION SAYS THIS IS WHY THIS IS EQUITABLE. THIS IS WHY IT'S SUSTAINABLE. THIS IS HOW IT'S TRANSPARENT. I WOULD NOT VOTE FOR ANY FUNDING. SO BUT WE CAN GET THERE. WE HAVE A COMMITTEE, WE CAN VOTE ON POLICY AND WE CAN AND WE CAN LET CITY COUNCIL KNOW THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WOULD NEED, IF WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY ADOPT THIS POLICY FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION, THEN WE'D HAVE A POLICY. THEN I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING FUNDING CHOICES. BUT UNTIL BECAUSE RIGHT NOW SHE HAS AN N, SHE CAN COME SIT AT THE TABLE AND SAY, HEY, CAN I HAVE $60,000? CAN THEY? WHAT IF THEY WANT TO COME TO THE TABLE? WHAT IF THERE'S A LINE OF 30 PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SIT AT THE TABLE FOR $60,000, OR $10,000 OR $5000? THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT WHAT A PROFESSIONAL FUNDING ORGANIZATION DOES. WE HAVE AN APPLICATION PROCESS. THE

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WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? YEAH. OKAY. THAT WAY WE HAVE A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE END OF MARCH. AND WE'VE WORKED ON IT AND WE GOT IT TOGETHER BECAUSE I DON'T EVER WANT TO BE IN FRONT OF ANYONE AND NOT KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND NOT KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING OR MAKE US LOOK LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. RIGHT. SO I JUST MOTIONED THAT WE TABLE IT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, AND THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS A WORKSHOP AND MEET, AND THAT YOU TAKE VOLUNTEERS FROM THE ORGANIZATION SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOME CREATIVE IDEAS. SO WHEN WE COME BACK, WE HAVE A MORE CLEAR VISION OF WHAT THE ARTS COMMISSION WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPEAT THAT MOTION, BUT IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? OKAY. SARAH. SECONDED. WOULD YOU ARE GOING TO ASK ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS DISCUSSIONS? YEAH. OKAY. I'M NOT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. PERSONALLY I THINK WE FIND OURSELVES AT THIS POINT IN A VERY UNIQUE SITUATION TIMING WISE. OKAY. SO THAT'S COORDINATOR CITY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WANTS TO DO SOMETHING. SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE WE NEED TO SHOW OR DEMONSTRATE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THIS SITUATION. YEAH. DOWN THE ROAD WE'LL HAVE POLICIES AND EVERYTHING WILL BE IN PLACE AND WE'LL HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND ALL THAT STUFF. RIGHT NOW, WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER STEP JUST ABOVE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, JUST ABOVE IT.

SO WE WERE GIVEN BY THE CITY, BY THE COUNCIL, THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN ENTERPRISE FUND. AND WE WERE GIVEN $150,000 FROM THE HOT FUNDS TO THAT'S DESIGNED 15% FROM HOT FUNDS IS FOR THE ARTS.

AND WE KNOW ON THE GRAND VISION THAT, YEAH, GRANTS, SCHOLARSHIPS, ALL THAT KIND OF

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WE'LL GO DOWN THE LIST, FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN WE DO THAT WOULD ALLOW BOUNCE HOUSES, YOU KNOW, AT THE NEXT EVENT DOWN THE ROAD, CHRISTMAS OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT DOESN'T PULL FROM FROM YOUR BUDGET. IT'D BE NICE IF, IF THERE WERE OTHER PLACES THAT WE COULD GET MONEY FROM. BUT AT THIS TIME. WE CAN'T. SO THAT'S THESE ARE THESE ARE THINGS I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT MAKES ME NOT IN FAVOR OF DELAYING, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO, HOW MANY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE YOU GOING TO GOING TO BE FOR? THEY HAVE TO CONSIDER WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW LONG CAN WE DELAY IT. SO I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION MISSING ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTION ON THAT. THE PINK SLIDE THAT HAS THE BUDGET. THERE'S A 40,000, 40 SOMETHING THOUSAND THAT ARE ALREADY PAID.

HOW IS THAT PAID? ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY. THE ON THE LEFT IS 44,294. AND IT SAYS IT'S ALREADY PAID. IT'S COMMITTED. SO IT'S NOT IT'S BOOKED. THE DEPOSITS HAVE BEEN PAID BUT IT IS COMING CURRENTLY OUT OF WHAT IS IN MY WIGGLE ROOM OF MY CURRENT EVENT BUDGET. YES. THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT LAST MONTH MISS DEVIN CAME AND SHE MADE HER PRESENTATION AND WE PUT A HOLD ON IT THEN AND SAID WE WOULD TAKE IT UP AT OUR NEXT MEETING. AND THIS IS THE NEXT MEETING.

AND I ALSO THINK TOO, THAT. I FEEL THE CITY MANAGER AND PROBABLY CITY COUNCIL WHO ALREADY KNOWS ABOUT THIS, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE SENT IT TO US IF THEY DIDN'T THINK WE COULD DO IT. WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE WHOLE 60 FROM OUR BUDGET OR THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG DEAL TO AT LEAST CONSIDER A PORTION FORM, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HELD HER UP ONE MONTH. I MEAN, WE SAID AT THE LAST MEETING WE WOULD ADDRESS IT THIS MONTH, AND WE'RE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE LAST MEETING. SHE DID IT. JUST TO BE FAIR, THOUGH, IS, FIRST OF ALL, YOU WERE LEGITIMATE LAST TIME. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT IT. BUT SHE DID GIVE US SOME. RIGHT. BUT WE SHE DIDN'T SAY NO, $60,000 LIKE, YOU KNOW. SO I THINK WE WERE. YES, YOU DID LAST TIME. YES. OUT OF OUR BUDGET. NO. SHE WAS SAYING $25,000. I WAS LIKE, WELL, SO I DIDN'T THINK YOU WERE. WE WERE WHEN I ASKED YOU HOW MUCH MONEY IT WAS. I MEAN, WE WANT TO GO BACK THROUGH THE VIDEO. I ASKED YOU HOW MUCH YOU WAS TELLING YOU THAT MIKE MANSFIELD USUALLY GAVE ABOUT 25,000 BECAUSE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BAND. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REFUTE ON

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AND SO HOT REVENUE IS COLLECTED QUARTERLY, RIGHT? POT FUNDS ARE COLLECTED MONTHLY. THEY ARE TRANSFERRED QUARTERLY. OKAY. SO I HAD A CONVERSATION. SO I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE WHEN THE CITY MANAGER WAS HERE AND I ASKED, DOES THAT MEAN WE CAN ONLY MAKE DECISIONS QUARTERLY.

THERE'S NO YOU CAN MAKE THEM SO. SO THIS IS WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. YES. OKAY. NOW KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE REVENUE TOTAL IS AN ESTIMATE THAT IS NOT A LOCKED NUMBER, THAT JUST IS ALL DEPENDENT UPON THE MONIES THAT COME IN FROM THE HOTELS. SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO MY FEELING AND I RESPECT WHAT TIM'S SAYING. I LOVE WHAT HE'S SAYING, I LOVE THIS, EVERYONE LOVES THIS. THE FIRST THOUGHT ON OUR DUTIES AND POWERS IS COMMISSION, AMONG OTHER THINGS, IS ADOPT GUIDELINES AND CRITERIA FOR APPLICATIONS REQUESTING FUNDING. WE DON'T HAVE THAT. AND IF ANYONE ELSE SHOWED UP, WE WOULD JUST TURN THEM AWAY. IT'S NOT IT NEEDS TO BE FAIR. SO THAT'S MY CONCERN. THE POLICY COMMITTEE CAN MEET AND HELP CREATE THAT CRITERIA OR DISCUSS THAT CRITERIA OR LOOK WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO. THIS IS WHAT PLANO DOES I USE PLANO, IT'S VERY ROBUST APPLICATION. THEORETICALLY THIS COULD BE A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR FUND. SO WHAT WE DO NOW IS GOING TO SET THE STAGE FOR THAT. SO MR. MR. PERRY, IT'S NOT MY INTENTION TO SLOW ANYTHING. I DON'T THINK WE'RE EQUIPPED TO MAKE THE DECISION YET BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN, ONE OF US AND IT'LL BE ME, IS GOING TO GO IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION. WITHOUT THIS, WE JUST SAT AROUND A TABLE AND SAID, WOULDN'T IT BE COOL IF THAT'S NOT PROFESSIONAL? IT'S NOT FAIR, IT'S NOT EQUITABLE, IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

THAT'S MY THINKING ON IT. BUT I BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. SO THE REAL CONVERSATION IS NOT THIS. THE CONVERSATION IS OUR POLICIES AND HOW WE DETERMINE THINGS. BECAUSE THE NEXT THE NEXT COMMISSION IN SEVEN MONTHS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START AT GROUND ZERO WITH THESE CONVERSATIONS. IF WE DON'T GET IT FIRST AND I GO BACK TO HERE, OUR FIRST DUTY IS TO ADOPT THE GUIDELINES AND CRITERIA FOR APPLICANTS REQUESTING FUNDING. DEVIN, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. WE THERE'S NOT AN APPLICATION PROCESS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY CRITERIA FOR ANY OF THIS. SO BASICALLY I'M GOING TO IF WE HAVE TO GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, LET'S SAY IF IT VOTES, I'M SENDING BACK, I AM NOT DOING THAT. BUT BUT IT HAS I TOTALLY GET WHAT YOU SAID, TIM. AND IT'S NOT MY INTENTION TO BE SLOW. I JUST DON'T THINK. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT. AND WHAT WHAT TIFFANY SAID ABOUT THE HOW THE TIMELINE. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR. EVERYBODY LOVES THIS. AND WHEN ASKED HER WHAT TIMELINE IT SHOULD BE, IT'S A DIFFERENT TIMELINE. SO YES, I JUST WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OUT LOUD. SO AT THIS POINT, THE WAY THE DISCUSSION IS GOING, IT'S FINE IF THEY TABLE IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PROCEED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ANYWAY, RIGHT? THEN IT CAN COME BACK NEXT MONTH. MAYBE WE REFRAME IT AS A SPONSORSHIP AT THAT POINT WHERE YOU COULD DETERMINE THE LEVEL, AND WE CAN WORK LIKE THE DICKENS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME OF THESE GUIDELINES AND CRITERIA IN PLACE, BECAUSE WE LOVE THIS. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU CAN HEAR THE CONVERSATION. IT'S NOT IT'S WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THE ARTS. YEAH.

NO, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM. ABSOLUTELY. AND I AND I THINK THAT'S WHY I TOLD YOU LIKE A SPONSORSHIP LAST TIME BECAUSE LIKE, I THINK WITH THE SPONSORSHIP, WE CAN MAKE IT AN AGREEMENT NOW AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S THE SPONSORSHIP, HERE'S THE DIFFERENT LEVELS. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? OKAY. IF WE'RE SPENDING $5,000, THIS COSTS THIS OR THAT AND WE CAN JUST LOOK AT IT. RIGHT. BUT I THINK THAT IF WE CAN GET SOME OF THE ARTS COMMISSIONERS TO VOLUNTEER AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU OUTSIDE OF THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT ASK LOOKS LIKE, RIGHT, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT INCORPORATES THOSE THINGS THAT EVERYONE FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH.

SO THEN THAT WAY NEXT TIME, ONCE WE DO HAVE A POLICY AND EVERYTHING, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT IT. WE JUST ARE NOT SAYING HOW MUCH, BUT WE JUST. BUT I THINK THAT ONCE WE PUT IT OUT THERE TO SUPPORT SOMETHING, EVERYBODY ELSE THAT COMES THROUGH HERE HAS TO BE ADHERED TO THE SAME AMOUNT OF MEASURE. BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING, WE'VE ADHERED EVEN WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE A BUDGET, TO GUESS WHAT, THERE'S A CERTAIN WAY THAT WE DO THINGS RIGHT, AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO EVER MAKE IT SEEM AS THOUGH WE ARE NOT ALLOWING EVERYONE TO GO

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I TEND TO AGREE WITH TIM AND PROBABLY AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT, BECAUSE I LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. I DON'T THINK THAT THE ASK MAY HAVE BEEN WORDED THAT WAY, BUT I THINK THAT I LOOK AT IT AS A SPONSORSHIP, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY A GRANT. I THINK IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DECIDE HOW MUCH MONEY, AT WHAT LEVEL WE WANT TO SPONSOR THE EVENT, INSTEAD OF NECESSARILY GIVING DUNCANVILLE EVENTS THE MONEY. WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO COMMIT THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO DO, WHETHER IT'S A MURAL OR WHETHER IT'S SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING. AND I DON'T SEE HOW SHE CAN CONTINUE HER PLANNING WITHOUT SOME SORT OF DIRECTION THAT WE AS AN ARTS COMMISSION, NOT AS A GRANT TO HER, BUT TO HER EVENT, BUT AS OUR COMMITMENT TO THE EVENT. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF LOOKING AT IT. THAT'S JUST THE WAY I LOOK. I FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T SAY TONIGHT, WE ARE WE'RE WILLING TO NOT MAKE A GRANT, BUT WE ARE WILLING TO NOT NOT THEN WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $5,000 ON MIXERS. WE'RE GOING TO WE CAN SAY THE ARTS COMMISSION IS READY TO SPEND THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY UP TO THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THE EVENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PHOTO OP PLACE AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BACKDROP, OR WE'RE GOING TO DO THE MURAL, OR WE'RE GOING TO DO, I DON'T KNOW, ON ON ARTS COMMISSION RELATED ACTIVITIES. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A RIGHT WAY TO, BUT I KNOW IT'S I SORRY, I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN I WAS MY THAT WAS MY OUTSIDE I KNOW OKAY. SO PART OF THIS IS IF YOU WERE WATCHING THE RECENT DCC MEETINGS AROUND FUNDS, IT WAS SPICY. THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE RULES IN PLACE. THE EXPECTATIONS WEREN'T IN PLACE. PEOPLE GOT MAD. PEOPLE STORMED OUT. PEOPLE YELLED. PEOPLE CALLED EACH OTHER NAMES. IT WAS MESSY. SO I'M LEARNING FROM THAT. WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE I THINK IT'S JUST ME. WE NEED TO HAVE RULES. WE NEED TO HAVE EXPECTATIONS. THEY NEED TO CLEARLY COMMUNICATE THE VERY BEGINNING. WE ALL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT, OR WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO DOWN THE SAME ROAD THAT DCDC DID. WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE VISION. FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE CAN ENVISION PARTICIPATING IN A CERTAIN WAY, WE CAN DO IT. FOR EXAMPLE, THESE TWO ARE STRONG WITH CHILDREN'S ACTIVITIES. YOU KNOW, IF WE, YOU, YOU AND THE REST WOULD HELP WITH THAT, SHE SAID. WHAT? SHE GOES, I SHOW UP WITH CANDY. ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF THAT? AND HE'S GREAT WITH COMING UP WITH IDEAS. YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE CAN ENVISION OUR OUR ROLE THERE IN A MULTIFACETED WAY AND INDIVIDUALLY SIGN UP FOR MEETING WITH YOU OR WHATEVER, THEN IT WILL WORK. I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TAKING OVER THE SPRING ARTS FESTIVAL. THAT LANGUAGE IS OVERWHELMING TO ME BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY FOR THAT. YEAH, I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT, WAIT, DON'T USE THOSE WORDS. USE OTHER WORDS. I WAS LIKE, OH, I KNOW YOU'RE BEING FUNNY, BUT USE OTHER WORDS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT IS WHAT I THINK. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S INTIMIDATING AND SCARY FOR US IN LIGHT OF THE TWO MONTHS OR WHATEVER WE HAVE. SO IF WE CAN I THINK THE, THE VISION AND THE AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE INDIVIDUAL COMMITMENTS WILL ADD UP AND BE SUPPORTIVE TO THE WHOLE EVENT. BUT YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

I REALLY JUST DO. AND I BECAUSE I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, DEBBIE DOWNER. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT LIKE WE JUST GOT THIS BUDGET, WE HAVEN'T EVEN THE COMMUNITY DON'T EVEN KNOW WE HAVE IT YET. RIGHT. AND SO WHEN YOU KNOW AND TIM, I DO AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY, I DON'T THINK IT'S US SAYING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SPONSOR IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE A FIDUCIARY DUTY. NOW, NOW THAT WE GOT ONE, THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE ADMINISTER THAT MONEY AND THAT FUNDING? I THINK WE'VE ALL AGREED THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO SPONSOR THIS EVENT AND TURN AROUND AND BE A PART OF THIS EVENT. HOWEVER, WAY WE CAN PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME, RIGHT? BUT I DO THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR TO ALLOW THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING SO THAT WE NOT ONLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT WE LOOK LIKE WE DO IT RIGHT.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO POLICY AND STUFF. AND THEN THAT WAY IF THAT NEXT PERSON COMES IN OR NEXT PERSON, THEY SHOULD BE ADHERED TO THE SAME STANDARDS, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T LET THEM COME IN AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO DO A HOT DOG COOK-OFF AND WE NEED $50,000. AND THEY DON'T HAVE WE DON'T HAVE ANY POLICY TO GIVE IT TO THEM. SO I JUST FEEL LIKE AS EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN INTERNAL THING AND WE KNOW YOU'RE GOOD FOR IT, YOU KNOW THE CITY, RIGHT? YOU'RE GOING TO DO GOOD EVENTS. DUNCANVILLE DOES REALLY WELL. BUT I THINK THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE EQUAL IN THE WAY THAT WE GIVE OUT MONEY, THAT WE'VE ALREADY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A COMMITMENT TO YOU. THAT IS WHY THAT SUBCOMMITTEE OF ARTS, I THINK IT'S COMMISSIONERS, COME

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THAT'S WHAT WORKS AND ALLOWS US TO GET THE MOST VISIBILITY AND GIVE YOU THE MOST. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. WOULD YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION? BECAUSE I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL NEXT MONTH'S MEETING, AS WELL AS ALLOWING THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO CREATE A WORKSHOP. AND SARAH, YOU MADE THE SECOND I SECOND THE MOTION.

OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO TABLE IT, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. COUNT THEM. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX. IN FAVOR? ARE YOU UP OR DOWN? I'LL HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS. OKAY. UP OR DOWN? OKAY. HANDS UP AGAIN. YES. OKAY, OKAY. 12345. SIX SEVEN. OKAY. ALL THOSE AGAINST RAISE YOUR HAND. TWO AGAINST. MOTION CARRIES THIS TABLE. I'LL JUST ASK. I'M HEARING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. LIKE. THANK YOU, MISS GOOD. THANK YOU. 111 THING IS WE NEED TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THIS MONEY AND TO BE AVAILABLE. TO. TO WHOEVER COMES WITH A GRANT. THAT'S AN EXTERNAL ASK FROM PEOPLE THAT COME. AND BY EXTERNAL, I MEAN PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE CITY. YEAH.

THIS IS THE CITY COMING TO US FOR AN ASK RIGHT NOW. THIS IS AN INTERNAL THIS IS EVENTS. THIS IS IT SEEMS LIKE A DIFFERENT ANIMAL. AS YOU'RE CREATING YOUR POLICY, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU INQUIRE AS TO HOW DO WE FIT WITH INTERNAL EVENTS THAT THE CITY'S DOING. DO WE GIVE DO THEY SHOULD THEY BE ASKING FOR OUR MONEY OR IS IT STRICTLY FOR EXTERNAL? THAT'S BRILLIANT. BRILLIANT.

TIM. TIM, IF THERE'S NEVER A NON QUORUM NUMBER, I WILL CALL YOU TO SIT IN. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THE. THAT'S THE REASON WE NEED POLICIES. AND IT'S A BRILLIANT, BRILLIANT RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. AND WE'RE GOING TO OKAY. SO THIS SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. IT'S KIND OF PROBABLY GOING TO GO THE SAME WAY. SO TIFFANY'S NOT HERE. THIS IS A53 EYES THE ARTS COMMISSION TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL FUND TWO ARTS MIXERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $5,000 PER EVENT. THIS IS WHERE IT BECOMES EQUITABLE AND FAIR. WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY. SO THE LAST TIME WE DID, WE WENT TO CDC AND ASKED THEM TO SPONSOR IT. AND THEY HAD POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND APPLICATION PROCESS, AND WE DID WHAT WE WERE TOLD TO DO, AND WE GOT SOME OF THE MONEY. SO UNTIL WE HAVE A SAME THING, UNTIL WE HAVE A POLICY, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE I THINK WE HAVE TO BE FOR THE SAKE OF FAIRNESS. YEAH, WE HAVE TIME. I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DC. I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DEATH FOR THIS. YEAH. ALEX, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO DC TO DC FOR THIS. CITY MANAGER SAID THAT YOU CAN GET THESE EVENTS TO QUALIFY TO USE YOUR OWN FUNDS. OKAY. BUT BECAUSE OF THE FACT OF DEPENDING ON HOW WE MARKET IT, IF YOU INVITE A GUEST FROM OUT OF TOWN, THAT IS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE JAZZ ARTIST, IT'S AN IDEAL WAY TO MAKE THAT ONE QUALIFY FOR HOT FUNDS BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO COME OUT FROM OUT OF TOWN TO ATTEND A MIXER THAT MAYBE INCLUDES A PERFORMANCE BY THIS PERSON OR A TALK. IT'S ABOUT HOW YOU. WHAT THE ARTS MIXER IS, HOW YOU PLAN IT, HOW YOU MARKET IT, AND HOW YOU UTILIZE. ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS TO ENCOURAGE TOURISM, TO GET PEOPLE TO COME TO THE CITY, TO PROMOTE THE CITY, TO GET PEOPLE TO WANT TO COME AND VISIT AND STAY IN HOTELS. SO. BASED ON THAT CONVERSATION WITH

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SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT ITEM A MOTION TO TABLE THE MIXERS UNTIL THE ARTS COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THE ITEM FIVE I. IS THERE ANY IS THERE A SECOND. NO A SECOND OKAY. 10S IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS? UNREADINESS OKAY. EVERYONE IN FAVOR OF TABLING FIVE I, I RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. I LOOKS LIKE IT'S UNANIMOUS. I HAD ONE QUESTION. DO WE STILL HAVE ONE MIXER THAT IS FUNDED THAT DISAPPEARED. YEAH. WELL IT DIDN'T ROLL OVER. SO WE FOUND OUT ALEX TOLD US LAST WEEK. WE DONE. HASHTAG. IT'S OVER. SO? SO. OH, THESE ARE ROMAN NUMERALS. OKAY. SO FIVE. OH, WOW. AND SO NOW I GET THEIR ITEM FIVE FOR CONCERTS IN THE PARK AND MOVIES IN THE PARK REPORT FINALIZATION OF DATES, FILMS, MUSICAL GROUPS. YEAH, THAT'S SOMEONE ELSE WHO HAS THAT. I'LL GIVE A REPORT, BUT I ALMOST WISH WE HAD MORE TIME TO CONSULT ON IT ALL. SO TIFFANY, TIM, MARIANNE AND ANNE MET WITH NOELLE AND BRETT. BRANDON.

BARREN, BARREN. AND ANGELA WAS WILLING, BUT WE COULDN'T HAVE A QUORUM THERE. AND WE ALSO SAW AMY THAT DAY. BUT I WAS THERE FOR ANOTHER AS AN EMPLOYEE LOOKING AT THE SOUND SYSTEM FOR THE REC CENTER. OKAY, ANY ANY COMBINATION OF ME BEING THERE WITH YOU HAD NOTHING. I DIDN'T EVEN WALK OVER TO YOUR CORNER. I WAS IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM AN ARTS COMMISSIONER AT THAT MOMENT AND WAS HANDING OUT AV PRO CARDS. LET ME BE CLEAR. YES, BUT WE SAW YOU THAT DAY AND THAT WAS INTERESTING. AMY LOOKED OVER AT AT THE TABLE. SHE SAW ALL OF US THERE. SHE JUST KEPT WALKING.

SHE I KEPT WALKING. I MEAN, SHE EVEN COME OVER THERE. NO CIRCUMSTANCES I WAS I DON'T KNOW YOU. I CAN'T SEE YOU. I'M MOVING ON. SHE WAS LIKE, THEY NEED TO GET THEIR STUFF TOGETHER. I AM NOT AN ARTS COMMISSIONER. I'M LOOKING AT THE SOUND. THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERED ME WAS BARON DIDN'T REALIZE HE HAD TO BE PART OF THAT MEETING. AND HE'S THE ONE WHO SCHEDULED THE APPOINTMENT WITH ME. AND SUDDENLY I'M CRAWLING AROUND ON THE FLOOR LOOKING AT THE SOUND EQUIPMENT. NOT REALLY SURE WHAT HE WANTS, BECAUSE I WAS THAT IT WAS AN INTERESTING SITUATION BECAUSE WE KNEW WE COULDN'T. FIVE OF US COULDN'T BE TOGETHER, AND ANGELA WAS SWEET ENOUGH TO STEP BACK WHILE THE REST OF US. IT WAS. IT WAS MY MISUNDERSTANDING. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE REPORT. THANK YOU. YOURS. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE THE FILM SERIES AND THE CONCERT SERIES. I THINK THE DATES ARE FOR THE FILMS. APRIL 5TH, MAY 10TH, JUNE 14TH, IN SEPTEMBER 6TH. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO RECONFIRM THAT WITH NOEL AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THOSE DATES ARE RIGHT. THE CONCERTS I HAVE DONE MARCH 22ND, APRIL 26TH, EITHER MAY 17TH OR JUNE 21ST, AND THEN SEPTEMBER 27TH. THEIR CONCEPT ON THE FILMS IS THAT WE WOULD CHOOSE TWO OF THE FILMS. THE PHILOSOPHY THEY HAVE IS THAT WE CAN CHOOSE ANYTHING WE WANT. THEY WILL SUPPORT IT. WE CAN DO AUXILIARY ACTIVITIES AROUND IT IF IT'S A THEME KIND OF THING. AND THEN THEY ARE CHOOSING TWO OF THE FILMS IN THE MIDDLE, AND EVERYTHING IS EXPERIMENTAL BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL WORK. YOU KNOW, ROMANTIC COMEDY, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS FILM, WHATEVER. SO WE HAVE TWO FILMS TO CHOOSE AND WE TALKED ABOUT AND TIM AND I WATCHED LAST NIGHT, 6888. WE SAW THAT FILM LAST NIGHT, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD FILM, AND IT'S TWO HOURS. BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT I WAS THINKING, IS THIS A GOOD FILM TO WATCH IN THE PARK? YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, MY MIND, WHO LOVES EDUCATIONAL AND SERIOUS FILMS AND SOCIAL ISSUE FILMS, WAS THINKING MAYBE WE DO NEED TO GO MORE TOWARD LIGHT COMEDY OR SOMETHING SHORTER. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. SO THIS IS THE AMBIGUITY THAT WE FACE RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE FILMS THAT REFLECT DIVERSITY. SO WE THOUGHT AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN THEME FOR THE FIRST ONE, A HISPANIC THEME FOR THE SEPTEMBER 1ST, WHICH IS CLOSER TO THE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, AND THAT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT FILM BEING PART OF THE HISPANIC FESTIVAL, YOU KNOW, THAT WE GO BACK TO THAT. AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT A MILLION MILES AWAY. THERE'S THE OTHER ONE ABOUT GOLF THAT INVOLVES TEXAS

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AND ON THE CONTENT HERE, IT WAS EVEN MORE AMBIGUOUS BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING MAYBE A QUARTET OR A TRIO, SOME LOCAL TALENT. I DON'T THINK WE TALKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT MUSICAL GROUPS I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PENTATONIX THERE, BUT MAYBE WE COULD NOT PAY $60,000 FOR THAT.

LOCAL, LOCAL, SORT OF LOCAL. I KNOW THEY ARE. WE CAN ONLY AFFORD PROBABLY TWO OF THEM.

MAYBE WE CAN GET ONE OF THEM. ONE OF THEM PENTATONIC, I THINK. BUT ANYWAY, WE SO I THINK IT'S STILL A LITTLE BIT AMORPHOUS AS FAR AS NOW. OTHERS WHO WERE THERE ADD YOUR THOUGHTS BECAUSE TO FINALIZE THE DATES, AND MUSICAL GROUPS. THAT'S PRETTY. I DON'T THINK. DID DID THEY PICK OUT THE MUSIC? THEY WERE LIKE DOING THE MUSIC, RIGHT? MOSTLY I REMEMBER HE SAID. SO HE SAID THAT HE WOULD THEY WOULD PAY FOR ANY OF THE FILMS THAT WE DECIDED TO GO. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A SMALL BUDGET FOR IF WE DO, WHEN WE DO THE CONCERT, REMEMBER? SO THEY HAVE 4000, AROUND $4,000 FOR US TO DO A CONCERT. YES, THERE WERE CONCERTS. THERE'S ONE. NO, WE'RE JUST DOING ONE. WHAT HE'S ASKING US TO SUPPORT IS ONE CONCERT AND ONE MOVIE. SO TWO MOVIES. TWO MOVIES. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. THE MOVIE. ONE MOVIE, ONE MOVIE NOW AND THEN, ONE MOVIE LATER. BUT HE DID SAY THAT IF WE WANTED TO SWITCH THAT BECAUSE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, REMEMBER MAYBE TAKING THAT MOVIE AND PUTTING IT IN JUNETEENTH WEEK AS AN ACTIVITY? AND ONE THING I TOLD HIM, IT'S HOT OUT, SO WONDER IF WE COULD DO LIKE A DRIVE IN EXPERIENCE AT THE SENIOR CENTER OR SOMETHING AND MAKE IT LIKE A COOL WITH SOME ART WORK AND LIKE PICTURE OPS WITH THE, YOU KNOW, BACK, LIKE DRIVE IN OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE POPCORN AND STUFF. SO OR IN THE GYM. AND HE LIKED THAT IDEA. RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT WE COULD PROBABLY I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, AND I THINK WE CAN INCORPORATE IT INTO SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE ALREADY DOING BECAUSE IT JUST ENHANCES THAT, YOU KNOW. BUT ANNE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS IN THE MOVIES AND YOU AND ANGELA, SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY GOOD. SO YEAH, BUT THE FINALIZATION IS KIND OF HARD. WELL, HE SAID HE'D WORK WITH US IF WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE AN APRIL 5TH. WE COULD HAVE IT ANY OTHER DAY, REMEMBER? WE'D HAVE TO LET HIM KNOW THOUGH. BUT I THINK WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE GOT TO WE FINALIZED. YOU TOLD THEM THAT SEPTEMBER DATE, REMEMBER? RIGHT. SEPTEMBER 6TH, THE DATE THAT WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT WAS THE APRIL 5TH DATE, AND WE DIDN'T KNOW IF WE COULD DO IT IN TIME. HE SAID WE COULD CHANGE THAT DATE BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE ADDING TO JUNETEENTH, BECAUSE HE HAS ONE IN JUNE, THOUGH THEY HAVE IN MAY AND JUNE. SO I DON'T THINK THE DATES SO MUCH OF A PROBLEM. IT'S MORE, AGAIN, LIKE VISIONING WHAT WILL WORK BEST IN THE PARK AND WHO WILL COME. HOW WILL HOW DO WE MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL? WHAT AUXILIARY ACTIVITIES DO WE DO AROUND IT? YOU KNOW, FOOD, COSTUMES, ART, VENDORS, LIKE A MOVIE NIGHT OR SOMETHING. AND LIKE WE CAN LIKE I THINK WE GOT TO REMEMBER, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN DO IT IN THE PARK, WE CAN ALSO DO IT IN LIKE THE SENIOR BUILDING. WE CAN DO IT IN THE GYM, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST ALWAYS WANT TO LOOK AT THAT JUST AS A CONTINGENCY PLAN. COULD YOU GUYS, COULD WE PULL TOGETHER LIKE A VOLUNTEER GROUP TO CREATE A LITTLE PATRON COMMUNITY AROUND THIS, TO GET THEM EXCITED TO HELP WITH THE IDEAS? BECAUSE WE KIND OF START DOING THAT ANYWAY, IT'S GOING TO BE THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. IF YOU COULD CREATE LIKE A LITTLE VOLUNTEER, BRING MORE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, I THINK IT MIGHT BE FUN. I'M ACTUALLY WILLING, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY, I HEARD HANS FEELINGS AGAIN, AND I COME ACROSS VERY CURT IN EMAILS. I WAS IN LONDON HAVING A PERFECTLY LONDON TIME, AND I WAS READING THE EMAILS AND I SAID, WAS THERE ANYTHING INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSION? THAT'S ALL I MEANT. AND, AND, AND I HEARD HER FEELINGS. I FELT TERRIBLE ABOUT IT. WELL, I KNOW I DO IT ALL THE TIME. YEAH. AND BUT SO LET ME SAY THIS, IT WAS I JUST WANTED I WISH IT WAS JUST A QUESTION, BUT WHATEVER THE SUBCOMMITTEE PICKS, BECAUSE I AM SO BLANK ON THIS. SO WHATEVER YOU GUYS THINK WOULD BE GOOD, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PLAY WITH IT IF YOU WANT TO BRING FORWARD. I'M GOOD WITH EVERY WHATEVER YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS, I THINK IT'D BE USEFUL TO HAVE SOME OTHER OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT WHAT MIGHT WORK BEST IN THAT SETTING. AND THEN MAYBE WE HAVE TO REGROUP A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR FINAL. NOW THE MAIL THING, I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF YOU HAVE SEEN SIX EIGHT. THAT WAS IT'S A IT'S A WORLD WAR TWO FILM ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN WHO HAVE DELIVERED MAIL THAT IT WAS ALMOST AN INSURMOUNTABLE ACTIVITY BECAUSE SO MUCH MAIL HAD PILED UP AND NOBODY WAS GETTING IT. SO BUT THERE IS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, ANGST IN IT AND DRAMA. AND, I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD FILM. YOU

[01:50:06]

WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS FRESH IDEAS THAT'LL THAT'LL BUILD THE ENGAGEMENT. THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. I THINK WE NEED SOMETHING LIVELY LIKE THIS. IT'S WONDERFUL. AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD ON IT. AND IT'S IN THE NEW CULTURAL DISTRICT. SO THAT'S PART OF THE THING OF THINKING ABOUT IT. I MEAN, I KNOW THEY DON'T NEED THE MONEY. THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE DOING THE SAME OLD THING. PEOPLE AREN'T SHOWING UP THE WAY THAT THEY USED TO. SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FRESH IDEAS AND SEEING THE ARTS COMMISSION AS AN INCREDIBLE RESOURCE FOR NEW APPROACH. SO JUST LIKE AN IDEA. SO LIKE IF YOU HAVE A THEME FOR THE MOVIE, LIKE MAYBE YOU CAN CATER AROUND THAT. SO IF IT'S LIKE THE MOVIE ENCANTO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR HISPANIC HERITAGE, THEN YOU HAVE MAYBE KIDS PERFORMING, LIKE YOU'RE ABLE TO FIND A KID CHOIR OR A KID PERFORMANCE, AND IT'S KIND OF THEMED OUT TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER OTHER ACTIVITIES PERTAIN TO THE KIDS OR IF IT'S ON, YOU KNOW, BLACK HISTORY MONTH, THEN YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, AFRICAN AMERICAN PERFORMERS AND, YOU KNOW, AND CATERED TO THAT. SO I THINK MAYBE THAT WILL KIND OF HELP BRING PEOPLE OUT BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO. YOU KNOW, HAS ANYONE SEEN THE FILM SING, SING? AND I THINK I HEARD A REALLY MY SON WENT IN AND I IT IT'S AN R IT'S A HARD R IT'S A YEAH, YEAH BUT IT'S WONDERFUL. HE SAYS WELL YOU'VE SEEN IT. OH LIKE R-RATED. I'VE NEVER HEARD THE TERM A HARD R.

OH YEAH. I WAS, I WAS LIKE, I DIDN'T OKAY, OKAY. IT'S NOT AN R. NO I MEAN IT'S WHITE THE LANGUAGE. HEY WHO'S ON THAT. WHO'S ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. WHO'S ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. OH.

IS THE L-SHAPED? OH, I WAS IN THE BEGINNING. I THINK YOU ARE. I JUST REALLY LIKE A SUBSTITUTE, Y'ALL. OKAY, SO I JUST RESPONDED TO THE. WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO Y'ALL NEED FOR US? BECAUSE KNOWLES NEEDS SOMETHING TOMORROW. SO WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TO MAKE YOU FEEL CONFIDENT TO GO INTO THE MEETING WITH THE GOAL? I'M COMFORTABLE. CONFIDENT WITH WHATEVER ANGELA AND ANN AND TIM AND THEM COME UP WITH. BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS THEIR AREA. I THINK YOU'RE VERY

[01:55:02]

WHOSE IS THAT? THAT'S MINE. BUT YOU GUYS CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. HAVE YOU WERE YOU, LIKE, WANTING TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT MONEY OR. IT'D BE NICE IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MONEY THAT WE CAN WORK WITH. DO YOU THINK FOR THE NEXT MEETING AGENDA IF LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO SAY IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT. BECAUSE BY THE NEXT MEETING, OUR SUBCOMMITTEE WILL HAVE MET AND WE'LL HAVE DRAFTED SOME, SOME, SOME POLICIES THAT EVERYONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE AND DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON. OKAY. CAN YOU CAN YOU, LIKE, PUT NUMBERS TOGETHER TO FRAME THAT OUT FOR US? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE POLICIES. IF WHEN THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETS AND THEY DRAFT THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK OVER THAT. SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE SUBCOMMITTEE BRINGS IT TO THE ARTS COMMISSION. ARTS COMMISSION MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS AND CITY TO CITY COUNCIL, NOT TO STAFF SO THAT THEY THE STAFF CAN DO IT. SO ORIGINALLY WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT GOING TO STAFF FIRST. IT'S HARD TO GET MEETINGS AND HANGAR HAS BILLABLE HOURS SO WE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAKE A CITY COUNCIL, MAKE THE CITY MANAGER AND THEY CAN DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH IT. WE DON'T WE'RE NOT THE FINAL DECISION ON ANYTHING. AND SO THEN THEY THEY THEY MARK UP EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. BUT BUT ALSO EVERY SUBCOMMITTEE IS THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING A SUBCOMMITTEE IS TO DO THE LEGWORK AND DO THE RESEARCH AND HAVE THE MEETINGS. BUT EVERYTHING, LIKE WE INDICATED IN THAT THE LAST MEETING, WE HAD ALL THE DOCUMENTATION, EVERYTHING COMES BACK TO ARTS COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION AND VOTES. NOTHING GOES TO ANYBODY WITHOUT THE ARTS COMMISSION VOTING ON IT. YEAH. DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 656 HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH ARTS ACTIVATION DISCUSSION. YES. QUICK COMMENT FOR ANGELA WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. I HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE TO RECOMMEND TO YOU FOR LIKE ARTISTS AND BOOK READERS. OKAY, SO FOR THE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, I GOT SOME NUMBERS FOR YOU. I KNOW YOU ASKED ABOUT IT, SO I WANTED TO GO OVER WITH AN THOUGH BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WERE PART OF A LOT OF THIS, BUT YOU HAVE THAT. BUT AS FAR AS LIKE WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE AT THE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, WHAT IS IT? THE EVENT THAT'S GOING ON? I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE COULD HAVE AT OUR, I GUESS, BOOTH FOR LIKE ARTS AND CRAFTS, AND I JUST LOOKED UP A FEW THINGS, BUT I THINK THE SKULLS I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT LAST TIME. I THINK IT WAS YOUR IDEA. YEAH. TO HAVE LIKE SOME SCHOOLS THAT MAYBE KIDS OR ANYBODY REALLY COULD PARTICIPATE IN DECORATE, BUT ALSO LIKE MAYBE CREATING SOME SOMBREROS WITH PAPER PLATES AND CUPS AND STUFF. SO THEY'RE BOTH REALLY SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, FOR ANYBODY TO KIND OF STAND AND LIKE HELP OUT IF THEY NEED IT. BUT THOSE ARE MY IDEAS THAT I HAVE FOR THAT. AS FAR AS COST, I DON'T KNOW YET. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MIGHT BE, BUT BECAUSE THIS YEAR, THE NOW'S THE BEST SOUTHWEST HISPANIC CELEBRATION IN HERE. SO I THINK LIKE THIS YEAR, WE REALLY WANT TO PUT SOME MONEY BEHIND IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A BUDGET. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT ONLY COMES OVER HERE ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS. SO I THINK I LOVE THE IDEA ABOUT THE SCULPTING. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT BEING ABLE TO HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS, LIKE

[02:00:07]

WHAT KIND OF HELP YOU NEED, SIR? I GUESS I WOULD NEED HELP WHEN IT COMES TO, LIKE, HOW MUCH TO BUDGET FOR IT. BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, I. I FEEL LIKE I KNOW PEOPLE THAT I COULD, YOU KNOW, CONNECT WITH THIS AND COULD HELP OUT FROM THE OUTSIDE. YEAH. SO DEVIN, THIS THIS PAST ONE, SARAH AND ANGELA AND ANNE, THEY KNOCKED IT OUT WITH ZERO. AND IN FACT, THEY WERE THEY WERE DOING THIS WITH THEIR OWN MONEY. IT WAS AMAZING. SO YOU'VE GOT GOOD PEOPLE. YEAH. OKAY. ARE YOU

[6.i. Cultural asset inventory (people, places, and events)]

THERE ARE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS THAT INCLUDE CULTURAL ASSETS. AND THEN THERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT INCLUDES CULTURAL PLAN. BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THIS IS HOW WE DEVELOP CULTURAL INFRASTRUCTURE. THE CULTURAL DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY WILL NEED ONE, BUT THE WHOLE CITY WOULD, WOULD, WOULD NEED ONE. THE BIG THING ABOUT IT IS THE FIRST PART IS TO HAVE A CULTURAL ASSET INVENTORY THAT'S PEOPLE, PLACES AND EVENTS THAT REPRESENT ARTISTIC AND CULTURAL ACTIVITY WITHIN THE CITY. IT SHOULD BE VERY EYE OPENING. THERE'S THINGS HAPPENING WITH THE CULTURAL, WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING COMMITTEE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S A LOT OF DATA POINTS TO BE SHARED, BUT I WANTED TO GET YOU READY BECAUSE I'M GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT CULTURAL PLANS. AND THE OTHER PART OF THAT, THE CITY MANAGER SAID, WE'RE A CITY. WE'RE ABLE TO ACTIVATE STAFF WITH PLANS, AND HE HAS A LIST OF ALL THE PLANS.

THERE'S NO CULTURAL PLANS, SO THERE'S LOTS OF EXAMPLES OF CULTURAL PLANS. IF YOU IF YOU GET BORED, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE SENDING YOU SOME LISTS, BUT IF YOU GET BORED, YOU CAN START LOOKING YOURSELF. AND BUT GENERALLY CULTURAL PLANS ARE DONE BY A THIRD PARTY. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK COULD COME FROM THE ARTS FUND. AND I THINK THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SHOULD SHARE IN THAT EXPENSE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO GET DONE, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO OTHER KINDS OF FUNDING LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD.

ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON? IS THIS THE ONE WHERE. WE IDENTIFY SIGNAGE AND ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF? YES. SO IT WOULD BE DONE AGAIN. IT WOULD BE DONE LIKE SO THERE'S A THERE'S A, THERE'S A CONSULTING FIRM DOING LIKE MASTER PLANNING FOR THE LAD AND THE DOG PARK AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING COMMITTEE. AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE SAME. YOU'D FIND YOU WOULD HIRE SOMEONE WITH THE SAME KIND OF EXPERTISE TO DOES CULTURAL PLANNING FOR MUNICIPALITIES AND SAY, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY OUR CULTURAL ASSETS. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION IN THAT. THERE'S LOTS OF SCIENCE IN THAT. AND THEN BASED ON THOSE DATA POINTS, WE CAN SAY, OKAY, HERE'S WHERE WE NEED TO LEAN INTO, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING REALLY GOOD AND HELPS DETERMINE HOW THE CITY. PUTS MONEY INTO TO ARTS PROGRAMS. I TOLD YOU I WAS IN A

[02:05:03]

IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE. WE'RE GOING TO FIND IS THE ARTS AND CULTURE ARE GOING TO QUICKLY BE OUTPACED OUTSIDE OF THE ARTS COMMISSION, AND THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE. THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE. SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE LIKE A LOT OF DEEP CONVERSATIONS. AND IN FACT, I MAY INVITE SOME SOME OUTSIDE PEOPLE TO COME AND CONSULT WITH US ABOUT WHAT TO WHAT TO EXPECT, HOW TO IDENTIFY REALLY GOOD COMPANIES TO DO THE PLANNING, WHAT KIND OF OUTCOMES WE WANT FROM IT, HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE THE PLAN, IS IT JUST GOING TO BE A DOCUMENT AND SIT ON THE BOOKSHELF, OR IS IT GOING TO BE ACTIVE, THAT SORT OF THING. SO ONE COMMENT, MAYBE TWO. WE'LL SEE. SAY THAT AGAIN. I HAVE A COMMENT. YEAH. THE CITY OF SAN ANGELO HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB WITH THAT. THEY CALL IT ART IN UNUSUAL PLACES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S ALL OVER TOWN, SO YOU MIGHT CHECK WITH THEM THEN. B IS THERE A DATA, A DATABASE OF PERFORMERS AND THAT SORT OF THING. ALL KINDS OF ARTISTS LIKE FOR SYMPHONY THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE LIST OF WHO, WHO HAS WHAT KIND OF SCHEDULE AND HOW MUCH THEY ARE AND WHAT WHAT THEY PLAY. AND I THINK I DO KNOW THERE ARE ARTISTS THAT ARE ON, LIKE THE TEXAS COMMISSION OF THE ARTS PAGE, WHERE IT SHOWS LIKE THEIR FEE, AND YOU CAN CONTACT THEM AS WELL AS WHEN THEY'RE LIKE, THERE'S A TOURING ROSTER.

SO PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTIVE AS WELL AS PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT BE TOURING, BUT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE THEM OUT AT YOUR EVENT. WE USE THEM A LOT. WHEN IT CAME TO BOOKING PERFORMERS FOR LIKE YOU SAID, YEAH, BUT THEY DO HAVE THAT. AND THERE'S ALSO A GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE TEXAS COMMISSION OF THE ARTS AS WELL. YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. WE'RE GONNA MOVE QUICKLY. FISCAL

[7. Fiscal Year 2026 budget planning discussion.]

[02:10:02]

I WOULD BE WELL AHEAD OF CITY COUNCIL, THOUGH, ON HAVING YOUR BUDGET, HAVING A PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, SO THAT THEY HAVE THE TIME TO HAVE THAT PRESENTED TO THEM, HAVE TIME TO WORK WITH IT, HAVE TIME TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS ON THEIR END TO.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. OKAY. MARCH 18TH, 2025 BOARD REPORT THE CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 18TH,

[8. March 18, 2025, Board Report to City Council March 18, 2024]

IT'LL BE FAST. LOOK, Y'ALL, I ALWAYS DO A FAST PRESENTATION. THEY JUST ASK ME A LOT OF QUESTIONS. IT'S NOT MY FAULT. IT IS NOT MY FAULT. IT'S GOING TO BE FAST. IT'S GOING TO BE THE ACTIONS THAT WE'VE TAKEN. THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE'VE DONE IS GOING TO BE BY NUMBERS.

TIFFANY HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION. I CAN PULL THOSE NUMBERS. YOU'RE GOING TO BE GETTING SOME CALLS FROM ME THAT IF YOU WERE THE LEAD ON A PROJECT OR AN EVENT, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT. IF YOU PUT YOUR OWN MONEY IN SOMETHING, INCLUDE THAT SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE'RE PUTTING SOMETHING IN A NEW GAME, AND THEN GENERALLY ON A, ON A, ON A REPORT, YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO. SO THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON ARE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT ALLOW US TO DO FUNDING. AND THEN WE CAN TALK. AND THEN I'LL TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, ONLY THINGS ON THE RECORD THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT LEADING UP TO THAT. IF WE CAN DO THIS THROUGH EMAIL, I'M GOING TO BE SENDING YOU SOME INFORMATION. I JUST WANT EVERYBODY'S EYES ON IT. I DON'T THINK I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE CALENDAR, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO MEET BEFORE THEN. BUT THE ONLY THING I EVER TALK TO CITY COUNCIL ABOUT ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE SAID ON THE RECORD. I ALWAYS HAVE LOTS OF OPINIONS, BUT I HAVE MOST OF THE TIME I CAN'T USE THEM. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BOARD. IF YOU CAN GO AND PUT ON YOUR CALENDAR. CITY COUNCIL MARCH 18TH, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD. WHAT TIME, WHAT TIME? SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE BRIEFING. I ASSUME THAT STARTS AT FIVE SIX. IT STARTS AT SIX, FIVE, SIX, BUT THIS IS MOST LIKELY GOING TO BE AFTER STAFF AND BOARD REPORTS WHICH WOULD BE IN THE REGULAR MEETING. OKAY. SO THAT REGULAR MEETING STARTS AT SEVEN. SO WHAT TIME DO WE NEED TO BE HERE. THAT'S THE QUESTION. WE'LL FIND OUT FOR SURE. BUT GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT ON YOUR CALENDAR. IT'S STARTING AT SIX OKAY. SORRY. YES TEN. NOT AT FIVE. WELL BUT IF I DON'T CUT THAT, Y'ALL WANT ME TO SHOW UP ON TIME OR NOT. AND I'M LIKE, I'M COMING FROM PLANO. NO. 330. PERIOD. TIM IS TRYING TO ASK A QUESTION. JUST WILL YOU BE CREATING A POWERPOINT? YEAH. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HELP ME? WILL THERE BE PICTURES IF YOU GIVE ME PICTURES, Y'ALL, Y'ALL JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT IN THERE. SEND THEM MY WAY. OKAY, EVERYONE CONTRIBUTE PICTURES BECAUSE WE COULD PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE COLOR, ACTUALLY SEND IT TO SEND IT TO TEN. YEAH. AND THERE SHOULD BE AN EMAIL LINK THAT I SENT OUT TO ALEX THAT HAS ALL THE PICTURES FROM ALL THE MIXERS. OH YEAH. AND AS WELL AS, I THINK THE HISPANIC HERITAGE STUFF. THAT WOULD BE NICE. YEAH. I WONDERED WHAT HAPPENED WITH THOSE PHOTOS. OH, NOT THE ONES HE TOOK, THE ONES I TOOK. BUT THAT'S RIGHT, ALEX, YOU GOT ALL THE PHOTOS, YOU GOT VIDEO PICTURES. YOU USE SOME IN THE STATE OF THE CITY? NO, WE HAVE. YOU REMEMBER YOU USED A VIDEO.

I'M SAYING IS THE USE OF IN THE STATE. THEY DID THEY WERE THERE. NO, NO, NOBODY TOLD US WE HAD A TABLE. WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE TABLE. BUT THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT NOW? THAT'S NOT. BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS, IS IF WE CAN ADD THOSE OR MAKE SURE HE GETS THOSE TWO. BECAUSE I KNOW YOU, YOU'RE A REALLY GOOD. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN HIS DAUGHTER'S PICTURES? SO I'M SURE SHE GETS IT FROM HER. SO ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT CITY COUNCIL, SEND ME EMAIL, SEND ME PICTURES, SEND ME TALKING. BY WHAT DATE? IT JUST ASAP. I ONLY LOOK AT MY CALENDAR. SO, TAM, ARE YOU GONNA HELP ME PUT IT TOGETHER? I CAN PUT IT MYSELF IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. YEAH, WE'LL WE'LL. OKAY. SO WHEN'S THE LATEST? ANYBODY CAN SEND YOUR INFORMATION. THE TRIAL? SEVEN. ABOUT A WEEK. OKAY. THE SEVENTH. OKAY, SO. SO BY MARCH 7TH, I NEED YOUR PRESENTATION THE WEDNESDAY PRIOR. OKAY. IF THAT HELPS. WHAT'S THAT DATE? SO THE WEDNESDAY PRIOR IS 12TH AND THEN JUNETEENTH OKAY. SO MARCH 7TH, IF YOU GET ON MARCH 7TH AND YOU HAVE IT DONE BY MARCH, OH NO, THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE IS THE 12TH. SO REALLY, MAYBE BY THE FIFTH ASH WEDNESDAY, I WOULD SAY, BECAUSE THEN THAT WAY IT GIVES YOU A WEEK TO WORK ON IT.

[02:15:01]

LET THAT MAN HAVE SOME ICE CREAM. WHEN DO YOU WANT? SO WHEN DO YOU NEED THIS? IN YOUR INBOX? MONDAY. SO HE NEEDS IT BY. HE NEEDS A FINISHED PRODUCT BY MARCH 12TH. WHEN DO YOU NEED IT IN YOUR INBOX? MONDAY IS THE FOURTH. YEAH, THE FOURTH. BECAUSE ALL YOU'RE ASKING PEOPLE FOR IS PICTURES AND STUFF. YOU GOT THAT? WE GOT A BUNCH ALREADY. OKAY. WE DO. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT IN THERE OKAY. ANYTHING, WORDS, PICTURES, POEMS. MARCH 4TH.

ANYTHING YOU WANT. MARCH 4TH. MARCH 4TH. YES. AND THEN. AND THEN ALEX HAS TO HAS IT IN HIS INBOX. MARCH 12TH. OKAY. YEAH. LAST ADAM AVAILABILITY FOR A JOINT MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY

[9. Availability for joint meeting with the Community Engagement Advisory Board.]

THEY WANT TO GET EXCITED ABOUT IT. EVERYBODY LOVES THE ARTS COMMISSION, SO ALEX IS TRYING TO SET UP A JOINT MEETING WITH US AND THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD, AND WE'LL PROBABLY GET A LOT OF ATTENTION FROM CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL IF WE DO SO. SO IF HE SENDS OUT A CALENDAR INVITE, IF YOU COULD RESPOND TO IT, I CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. CAN CAN EVERYBODY TOMORROW PLEASE SEND ME YOUR AVAILABILITY FOR LIKE THE NEXT THREE WEEKS. AND THEN I WILL TAKE THAT AND DISTILL IT DOWN TO WHATEVER MATCHES AMONGST ALL OF YOU. AND THEN I WILL GO TO THEM, BECAUSE THE ONLY OTHER OPTION, I TRIED THIS AND IT DID NOT SUCCEED. I TRIED TO GET EVERYBODY'S AVAILABILITY FROM TWO DIFFERENT BOARDS AND I DID NOT GET TWO DATES. SO SORRY. OR I CAN ASK THIS QUESTION. IS MARCH 11TH AN OPTION FOR EVERYBODY? BECAUSE I CAN JUST TURN THEIR REGULAR MEETING INTO A JOINT MEETING. IT'S A TUESDAY. YEAH. IS THIS THE. THEY START AT SIX. IF I'M NOT TRAVELING, THAT'S I WON'T KNOW UNTIL NEXT WEEK. OH OKAY. I MEAN DOES IT DEPEND ON ME? ACTUALLY, I THINK YOU'RE A PENNSYLVANIAN. YEAH, WELL, IF I DON'T GO TO COLORADO, I'M HERE, BUT I'M IN COLORADO, AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO THERE. RIGHT. THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ADVISORY BOARD. AND ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, YOU SAID MARCH 11TH, I COULD DO. YES, THAT'S OUR NEXT MEETING. AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOCKED IN FOR THAT. AND IF ALL OF YOU WERE TO SAY, I'M FINE, WE CAN DO MARCH 11TH. THEN I'LL JUST TURN THAT INTO A JOINT. MARCH 11TH. THAT'S HERE.

I CAN DO MARCH 11TH. YEAH, I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE I CAN FIT ALL OF YOU. I THINK IT MAY BE AT THE OTHER OKAY. AND MAY EVEN HAVE TO MOVE OVER TO THE LIBRARY. AND IF YOU HAVE TO CONFIRM IT, JUST LET US KNOW. AND THEN I'M JUST WAITING TO SEE IF THIS TRAVEL TRIP IS CHANGED.

IF SO, I'LL BE THERE. SO THEIR STAFF LIAISON IS OUR STAFF LIAISON. AND THEIR COUNCIL LIAISON IS OUR COUNCIL LIAISON. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. SO YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE DOWN THOSE OF US THAT ARE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND ISSUE ALEX YOU'RE THE YOU'RE THE. YEAH I'M AVAILABLE I CAN DO THE 11TH. YEAH. ALEX HAD ABOUT 22 JOBS. YES. YES, SIR. OKAY. SO I THINK I KNOW ANYBODY ELSE. MARIANNE. YEAH. MOST OF US. PENCILS PENCILED. IF THE BAHAMAS DOESN'T CALL THE BAHAMAS. RIGHT? YES. OKAY. SO IF THAT IS NO MORE, LET ME LOOK. LET ME LOOK. OKAY. SO THERE'S NO MORE BUSINESS. WE ARE

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