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MORNING. OKAY. I KNOW. YOU SAID OKAY, WE HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET
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STARTED WITH OUR MEETING THIS EVENING AT 6:01 P.M. THAT WOULD BE OUR PLANNING WORKSHOP AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 11TH. SO WITH THAT, THIS IS LIKE THE KIDS CLASS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALL,[RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS]
IF YOU DON'T MIND. UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS. MR. CANNON HAS PROVIDED A EMAIL THAT HE ASKED IF I'D BE WILLING TO READ HIS HIS LATE WIFE SO THAT. SO HE CAN PROPERLY ACKNOWLEDGE HER FOR HER, FOR HER SERVICE TO THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE? CERTAINLY. SO TO THE HONORABLE DUNCANVILLE CITY COUNCIL ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND MY WIFE, LATE WIFE, CAROL ANN ROGERS KINCANNON, I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION FOR THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE GOVERNMENT, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, THE POLICE, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND ALL OTHER BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT THAT EVADED US IN OUR LONG RESIDENCY IN THIS FAIR CITY. MY WIFE, CAROL AND I HAVE LIVED HERE TOGETHER FOR OVER 60 YEARS, FROM 1961 UNTIL LATE 2022. IN THAT TIME WE HAD CHILDREN WORK, PARTICIPATED IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMUNITY, ATTENDED THE LOCAL CHURCH AND OTHERWISE PASSED THE TIME HERE FOR OVER SIX DECADES WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. SADLY, CAROL WAS TAKEN ILL IN LATE 2022 AND HAD TO BE MOVED TO A CARE FACILITY OUT OF TOWN AND NEAR THE END OF 2024, PASSED. NOW, IN THE LATER YEARS OF MY TIME HERE IN OUR CITY, I'D LIKE TO SIT AND REMINISCE ON ALL THE GOOD TIMES WE HAD HERE, AT LEAST SOME OF WHICH I HOPE I HAVE SPENT BENEFITING OUR COMMUNITY AND FURTHERING THE POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT THEREIN. IT IS WITH A HEAVY HEART THAT I ADDRESS YOU, BUT ALSO ONE THAT IS HOPEFUL FOR THE FUTURE OF THAT CITY. THAT WAS THE MAIN FIXTURE IN MY WIFE AND I'S LIFE FOR SO MANY YEARS. EVEN AS RESIDENTS AS WELL AS GENERATIONS COME AND GO. THE DEDICATION TO THE PRINCIPLES OF KEEPING OUR CITY SAFE AND PROSPEROUS WILL PERSIST. ALL THE BEST, HOMER FINCANNON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SHARING, MR. BUCHANAN. I WILL GIVE THAT TO YOU FOR THE. DO YOU HAVE A COPY? YES.PERFECT. THAT'S THE ONLY. THE ONLY? YES. THAT IS THE ONLY PUBLIC COMMENT I HAVE. YES. SO,
[Discuss topics related to Bond Projects, Capital Improvement Projects, Funding Strategies]
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS. WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO MR. FINCH. YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH. I'M GOING TO ASK OUR PROJECT MANAGER, ANGEL DEAL, TO COME UP AND KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE WERE GOING TO DO A BRIEFING FOR YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE MOST RECENT MEETING OR THE ONE BEFORE, BUT ON THE ROADMAP, AND WE RAN OUT OF TIME. SO WE JUST WANT TO SPEND A FEW EXTRA SECONDS HERE AS WE TALK ABOUT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND THE PROJECTS THAT ANGEL IS TRACKING. WE'LL GO INTO SOME OF THE DETAILS ON THESE THROUGHOUT THE EVENING AS WE GO THROUGH SOME OF THEM, BUT I'LL LET HER GIVE YOU A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME, EVERYBODY. SO AT THE CLOSE OF THE YEAR, ACTUALLY, WE PUT TOGETHER A STREET SMARTS. AT THE CLOSE OF THE YEAR, WE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER KIND OF A LIST OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS. AND DAY BY DAY, I THINK THE LIST IS STARTING TO GROW, AND THERE'S PROBABLY MORE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDED JUST TODAY. SO I'M JUST GOING TO WALK THROUGH. NOT EVERY SINGLE PROJECT, BUT QUARTER BY QUARTER, JUST TO GIVE YOU A HIGH LEVEL. AND I BELIEVE MOST OF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE ROADMAP ALREADY. AND IT'S BEEN REVISED ALREADY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR FIVE TIMES. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. SO FIRST, JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW HOW TO ACCESS IT. EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THAT EMAIL WITH A LINK. THE CITY OF CHAMPIONS AND IT HAS OUR PROJECTS TIMELINE. AND THERE'S A VERY SPECIFIC FOLDER FOR YOUR VIEWING. AND YOU CAN GO INSIDE THERE AND CLICK ON THAT PDF FILE. AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES ROADMAP. AND THEN IN ADDITION, IN THAT FOLDER IS ALSO JUST A BREAKDOWN OF SOME OF THE INTERNAL WORKSHOPS THAT WE'RE DOING. COUNCIL MEMBER GOODEN ACTUALLY ASKED THAT WE BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT SO THAT WHEN YOU ALL LOOK AT THE ROADMAP AND THIS COULD ALSO EVOLVE, BUT SHE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO CALL OUT WHEN THERE WERE TRAININGS FOR YOU ALL. SO THE YELLOW LIGHT BULB IS WHEN YOU NEED TO SHOW UP FOR TRAINING AND WORKSHOPS. AND MISS CHIQUITA WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE COORDINATED AND EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME SCHEDULE. SO ANY PUBLIC MEETINGS YOU'LL SEE KIND OF THAT BLUE ICON AND THEN THE MEGAPHONE FOR ANY NEW OR FIRST TIME PRESENTATIONS TO COUNCIL. SO IN Q1, WHAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO TALK MOSTLY ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IMPROVEMENT PLANS. SO EARLY PRESENTATIONS, THE FIRST DRAFTS FOR COMMUNITY INITIATIVES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LATER, IS THAT THEY'RE ALIGNED WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN. SO IN THIS CASE, OUR COMPREHENSIVE[00:05:03]
PLAN. ALSO WE'LL START IN Q1. SOME BUDGETING. I ACTUALLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH JENNIFER AND RICHARD OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE ROLLING OUT, AND THEN BY LATE Q1 PUBLIC WORKS, MATT AND HIS CHAMPION TEAM, THEY'LL BE SUBMITTING THAT. OR ACTUALLY, THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED THE NOTICE OF INTENT FOR THE ARMY PROJECT AS WELL. TYLER IS ACTUALLY TRAVELING THIS WEEK, BUT WE HOPE THAT IN MARCH OR NEXT MONTH, WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE HOMETOWN HEROES BANNERS PROGRAM. WE JUST WANT TO KEEP TRACK OF THE TRACTION. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY COMING ARE APPLYING BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE INSTALLATION BY MAY OF THIS YEAR. IN Q2. ALL THINGS FINANCIAL. SO ALL OF THOSE BUDGET MEETINGS AND PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY WORKSHOPS WILL KICK OFF. THAT'S THE INTERNAL, INTERNAL AS WELL AS ALL OF THE WORK WITH CITY ADMINISTRATION, WITH CITY MANAGER HERE. THE STEERING COMMITTEE WILL ACTUALLY REVIEW OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IN AT THE BEGINNING OF APRIL.AND THEN AFTER THEY DO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF DO THAT BACK AND FORTH, IF YOU WILL, AND THEY GIVE THEIR INPUT OR FEEDBACK. AND THEN WE'LL PRESENT THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO YOU ALL HERE AS WELL. WE WILL HAVE A BRIEF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OUTCOMES OF HOW WE UTILIZE THOSE ARPA FUNDS. I THINK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCLOSED. SO FINAL REVISIONS TO BUDGETS MAY WILL BRING ELECTION DAY. AND THEN WE'LL JUST KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH BUDGET AND FINANCE TRAINING INTERNALLY THROUGHOUT Q2. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE IN A PLACE WHERE WE'RE READY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE DESIGN CONCEPT WILL BE FOR THE NEW SERVICE CENTER. THAT'S ONE OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US. BUT WE'RE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET. WE'RE STILL IN THE VERY, VERY EARLY STAGES OF THAT Q3. ANY REVISIONS AND THE FINAL, FINAL APPROVAL SO THAT WE CAN MOVE INTO OUR FISCAL BUDGET FOR 2026? WE'LL COME BACK AGAIN FOR A SIMILAR CONVERSATION LIKE TONIGHT ON THE MID-YEAR STATUS UPDATES ON A LOT OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. THEN WE SHOULD BE READY AT THAT TIME, OR AT LEAST WE HOPE. I'LL BE WORKING WITH MATT AND SHIHAD TO SEE IF WE'RE READY FOR THE ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURE RFQ FOR THE SERVICE CENTER. HOPEFULLY BY THEN WE'LL HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION. THE FINAL BUDGET TRAINING FOR THAT QUARTER, AND IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW, WE SUBMITTED OUR NOTICE OF INTENT FOR THE GRANT FOR ARMY. AND SO ONCE WE ONCE WE'VE DONE THAT, THEN WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION THAT'S DUE AT THE END OF MARCH. AND THEN THAT AWARD USUALLY COMES ABOUT 6 OR 8 MONTHS LATER. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT LATE SUMMER TO KNOW HOW THAT AWARD IS GOING TO BE DISCLOSED OR THAT AWARD IS DISCLOSED. ALSO, SOME PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH REGARD TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET, TAX RATE AND ADOPTIONS. AND WE HAVE A SOCIAL WE HAVE A SOCIAL CONTRACT THAT CITY MANAGER AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. SO WE SHOULD BE READY TO PRESENT THAT AND EXECUTE SO THAT IT CAN BE ADOPTED BY THE END OF Q3. WE'LL CLOSE OUT THE YEAR WITH A YEAR IN REVIEW. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO PROVIDE YOU AGAIN WITH UPDATES ON HOW WELL WE'VE DONE.
INTRODUCE ANY NEW. PROJECTS. I SHOULD I SHOULD SAY 2026. MY APOLOGIES TEAM. AND THEN A STRATEGIC GOALS WORKSHOP. SO ON THE ROADMAP YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT WE'LL TAKE SOME TIME IN Q3 AND Q4 TO ALSO KIND OF GO BACK OVER OUR DELIVERABLES FOR THE YEAR. WHAT DID WE COMMIT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO YOU ALL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON TARGET AND ALSO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT OF A CELEBRATORY CONVERSATION AS WELL. SO THAT'S IT FOR ME.
AWESOME. WELL, QUESTIONS CAN I ANSWER FOR YOU ALL? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL ANGEL, IN ADDITION TO TRACKING IS A 52 HERE. I'LL TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. ANGEL'S TRACKING 52 PROJECTS AND OVER 200 INITIATIVES. SO THERE IS A LOT OF MOVING PIECES AND PARTS AND EVERYTHING. AND I APOLOGIZE. COUNCIL MEMBER GOODWIN, WE COULDN'T MEET THE. THE PHILADELPHIA CHEESESTEAK ON THE LAST AFTER LAST TUESDAY'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I'M STILL HAPPY TO SEE YOU. SO. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE IN SOME OF THESE UPDATES THAT ANGEL IS SHARING WITH YOU, AND I'LL GO, FOR INSTANCE, TO THE SOCIAL CONTRACT. SOME OF THE INITIATIVES SHE'S TRACKING IS NOT ONLY PROJECTS, BUT IT'S ALSO THE DEADLINES OF THE STUFF IN MY WORK PLAN WITH YOU. AND SO SHE'S REALLY TRACKING ALL OF THAT STUFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HITTING THOSE DELIVERABLE DATES AND EVERYTHING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FLUID DOCUMENT COMING AND GOING AS THINGS HAPPEN AND EVERYTHING. BUT DIDN'T YOU SAY THERE'S OVER 200 DIFFERENT LIKE, LINE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON? I MEAN, IT'S THE PROJECTS. YES. BUT IT'S CRAZY THE NUMBER OF THINGS SHE'S WATCHING FOR US. AND SO I THINK. ALL RIGHT. ANY THOUGHTS COMMENTS QUESTIONS CONCERNS. ALL RIGHT. OKAY I'M GOING TO JUMP OVER TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. I
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WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU. THANK YOU. SERIOUSLY FOR COMING IN AGAIN THIS EVENING I THINK I THINK YOU HAVE MEETINGS WITH US EVERY SINGLE WEEK THIS MONTH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING YOUR TIME TO US AND GIVING US DIRECTION AND FEEDBACK. I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH. ON OCTOBER 29TH, WE HAD A MEETING WHERE WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS.I'M GOING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH A REVIEW OF THAT AS WELL AS SOME NEW MATERIAL WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE KNOW YOU'LL REMEMBER. BACK ON OCTOBER 29TH. WE CREATED SHORT TERM, MEDIUM TERM AND LONG TERM GOALS. AND THOSE ARE THE LITTLE GIANT POSTER BOARD SHEETS THERE THAT WE HAVE ON THE WALL JUST TO KEEP EVERYBODY'S MEMORY FRESH AND EVERYTHING. AND THEN LAST APRIL WE HAD A SIMILAR TYPE OF DISCUSSION. AND YOU CAN SEE THE INITIATIVES THERE. AND WE'VE REALLY BEEN TRYING TO CARRY THROUGH THOSE. THERE'S A DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU THAT'S LABELED DRAFT. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. THIS IS VERY MUCH A ROUGH DRAFT. IT'S NOT FINAL BY ANY MEANS. BUT ON PAGE IT TALKS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANNING. BUT ON PAGE FOUR OF EIGHT IS REALLY WHERE YOU START TO SEE THE LIST OF SHORT TERM PROJECTS, MEDIUM TERM PROJECTS, LONG TERM PROJECTS. AND THEN THERE'S PROJECTS ON SEVEN AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE EVENING THAT WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS ON PAGE SEVEN. BUT BASICALLY, ONCE WE'RE DONE AND KIND OF GET THIS TO A LITTLE MORE OF A FINAL STATE, WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE SOME PRETTY GOOD NUMBERS AND INFORMATION AND DETAIL THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO START REALLY PLANNING AND DOING MULTI-YEAR BUDGETING. WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. AND THEN IT REALLY GIVES US A CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE AS WE BRING THE BUDGET FORWARD. SO KEEP IN MIND WE'RE REALLY ADVANCED THE BUDGET TIMELINE THIS YEAR, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. RIGHT. WE HAVE OUR TOWN HALL MEETING KICKOFF TO REALLY HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, SO THAT WE CAN START THOSE CONVERSATIONS EARLY AND INCLUDE AS AS MUCH AS WE CAN. SO ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE JUMP IN? OKAY, SO JUST AS A REMINDER, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS BUILDING STREETS NEW OR RECONSTRUCTION PARKS, FACILITIES AND TECHNOLOGY. NOT REALLY LIKE FLEET REPLACEMENT, STAFFING AND THE OTHER TYPES OF THINGS. THOSE ARE MORE ON A MAINTENANCE AND A ROTATION BASIS. AND YES, WE'LL HAVE A SEPARATE FLEET REPLACEMENT PLAN AND FULL BUDGET FOR THAT. WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING SOME ADDITIONAL STUFF FORWARD TO YOU BACK ON APRIL OUR BACK ON OCTOBER 29TH, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANNING. THE WORDS PROBABLY LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU SAID IT WAS IMPORTANT. NECESSARY. IT'S THE FUTURE. IT'S INVESTMENT. IT'S REALLY PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE. IT'S A VISION. IT'S LARGE PROJECTS. IT'S ALL OF THOSE THINGS. AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH BUILDING A COMMUNITY AND OUR SENSE OF PLACE, WE ASK YOU TO GIVE US THAT. AS WE WENT THROUGHOUT THE EVENING. IT WAS RIGHT AFTER, RIGHT BEFORE HALLOWEEN, WE ASK YOU TO PUT THE PROJECTS IN ONE OF THREE BUCKETS SHORT TERM, MEDIUM TERM OR LONG TERM PROJECTS. AND SO THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE. THE SERVICE CENTER WENT INTO THE SHORT TERM BUCKET.
AND THAT'S HOW WE CREATED THE LIST THAT YOU HAVE ON THE WALL AND IN FRONT OF YOU AS THOSE SHORT TERM, MEDIUM TERM AND LONG TERM PROJECTS AND WHAT OUR FOCUS IS ON. JUST AGAIN, AS A RECAP, WE TALKED ABOUT THE FIELDHOUSE TOTAL NEED OF ABOUT $2.6 MILLION BETWEEN THE HVAC, THE FLOORING, THE KITCHEN UPGRADES, CARPET, THE OUTDOOR PATIO AND THE MURAL. AND HAPPY TO REPORT THAT SINCE OCTOBER 29TH, THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN EXECUTED. WORK ANGEL, JUMP IN HERE AS WE GO THROUGH THESE.
BUT AS WORK COMMENCED ON THIS HVAC SYSTEM, THE ENGINEERING IS BEING DONE. SO ENGINEERING. SO WE'VE HAD OUR KICKOFF. THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND MARKET ANALYSIS IS HAPPENING. THE ENGINEER FOR THE HVAC IS WAS ON SITE TODAY. HE'LL PROBABLY BE BACK AGAIN THIS WEEK. WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO LOOK BACK TO SEE WHEN IT CHANGED FROM AN ICE RINK TO WHAT IT IS NOW.
WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THOSE ENGINEERING DRAWINGS ARE SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROCESS. SO WE'RE IN THE WE'RE TRYING TO HELP HIM HELP THE ENGINEERING SERVICES IDENTIFY THAT INFORMATION. SO WE JUST NOW WAITING FOR IT TO BE ORDERED. AND WE'RE ABOUT A 12 WEEK LEAD TIME. SO WE SHOULD KICK OFF MOVING FORWARD WITHIN THE NEXT PROBABLY I THINK MAY IS OUR THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY IS OUR DATE TO START THE INSTALLATION AND COMPLETION OVER THE SUMMER, WHICH ISN'T THE MOST IDEAL TIME, BUT THEY'LL SPREAD IT OUT SO THAT PART OF IT'S WORKING WHILE THEY REPLACE PART, AND THE NEW SYSTEMS WILL COME ONLINE UNTIL THEY'RE COMPLETELY DONE. WE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER NEEDS OF THE FIELD HOUSE, KITCHEN UPGRADES, CARPET REPLACEMENT,
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OUTDOOR PATIO. WE KIND OF GOT SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS FROM YOU ON WHERE YOU THINK THOSE TYPES OF CATEGORIES SHOULD FALL. I'M JUST GOING TO JUMP, RIGHT? IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, STOP ME.OTHERWISE I'LL JUST KEEP ROLLING RIGHT TO THE NEXT DEPARTMENT SO WE CAN GO AHEAD. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I DO HAVE A COMMENT. I'D LIKE TO. I LIKE WHAT SHE SAID ABOUT HOW THEY'RE ASSESSING THE BUILDING AND SEEING WHEN IT WENT FROM AN ICE RINK TO WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS, BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR YOU TO DETERMINE THE TYPE OF HVAC UNIT, YOU WANT TO DETERMINE THE COMPATIBILITY AND THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WHAT IT WILL BE SERVING. SO TO HEAR THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, THAT WAS EXCELLENT. SO THERE IS A LOT OF A LOT OF DETAIL THEY'RE WORKING ON, EVEN FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S A ROOM IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY CONDITIONED SPACE THAT THEY THINK IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE SWEATING THAT IS OCCURRING ON THE FLOOR BECAUSE OF THE HEAT MEETING THE COLD, AND VICE VERSA. AND SO AS PART OF ALL OF THAT NEW PLAN, THE ENGINEERING WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE SPACE IS CONDITIONED.
SO LOVE IT. YEAH. AWESOME. OKAY. FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE TALKED ABOUT $11.8 MILLION IN NEEDS SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO STATION TWO THIRD STATION. WE TALKED ABOUT THE QUINT. WE TALKED ABOUT SOME KITCHEN IMPROVEMENTS AT STATION TWO. THE RANKING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A THIRD STATION WAS LISTED AS A MEDIUM TERM PROJECT IN THE YEARS 2028 TO 2032. RENOVATIONS WE TALKED ABOUT AT STATION TWO, SHORT TERM CHIEF. WE MAYBE UPDATE THE COUNCIL ON OUR GRANT APPLICATIONS THAT WE MADE. YES, SIR. WELL, UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING REALLY TO UPDATE.
IT'S WE MADE THEM SINCE THEN. SO IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED. WE HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD NO, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD YES YET. SO IT SHOULD BE PRETTY SOON. BUT I'M VERY HOPEFUL. AND WE WORKED WITH A GRANT PERSON THAT MR. FINCH HAD KNOWN IN A PREVIOUS LIFE, AND HE WAS VERY COMPETENT, HIS DEALINGS WITH US. AND SO WE'RE HOPEFUL. BUT THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY AT THIS POINT. SO WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS THE GRANT FOR? WELL, THE GRANT IS FOR A QUINT AND AN EXHAUST EXTRACTION SYSTEM FOR FIRE STATION TWO, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ONE. SO AND SO TWO DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS. RIGHT. QUINT. THE NEW QUINT IS ESTIMATED COST OF 1.7 MILLION. AND I THINK THE MAXIMUM AWARD FOR US ON THE QUINT IF WE GET THE GRANT IS 1 MILLION. 1 MILLION. RIGHT. SO BUT IT'S EASIER FOR US TO FIND 700,000 THAN 1.7 MILLION. RIGHT. AND THEN THE OTHER WAS THE EXHAUST EXHAUST SYSTEM WAS UP TO WAS THAT UP TO A MILLION? ALSO, DO YOU REMEMBER FOR STATION TWO? IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT. IT WAS SHOT DOWN. YES. SO, CHIEF, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A AN EXTRACTION SYSTEM BUILT WITH THAT BUILDING. DID IT, DID IT STATION ONE? THERE IS, BUT NOT AT STATION TWO. NOT NOT THAT'S WORKING. THE NEW STATION HAS ONE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? THE NEW STATION HAS ONE. YOU'RE.
BUT YEAH. NO, WE HAVE SOME REAL CHALLENGES. THERE ARE. WE HAVE AN ICE MACHINE ON THE APPARATUS FLOOR WITH THE TRUCKS, PARK AND ALL THAT EXHAUST AND EXHAUST. IT'S A KNOWN CARCINOGEN AND IT'S WELL DOCUMENTED IN A NUMBER OF STUDIES. AND WE JUST WE WANT TO GET THAT NASTY STUFF OUT OF THE STATION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SO. SO IT DON'T PERMEATE INTO THE LIVING AREAS OF THE STATION AS WELL. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT WE HAVE ALSO WE'RE FINALIZING THE HIRED MATRIX CONSULTING TO DO ANALYSIS OF BOTH POLICE AND FIRE. AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER, BOTH POLICE AND FIRE. WHEN WE COME TO THAT. RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST STILL REVIEWING THAT MEETING FROM OCTOBER 29TH. WE TALKED ABOUT GENERAL GOVERNMENT STUFF, CITY HALL STUFF, A WHOLE SERIES OF DIFFERENT THINGS, HODGEPODGE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. THERE ARE ABOUT $10 MILLION. BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WAS, YOU ALL KNOW, GETTING A GENERATOR, A PUBLIC WORKS, PUBLIC WORKS REALLY STEPPED UP FOR US. IT WAS RATED AS 82% SAID NEED TO HAPPEN IN THE SHORT TERM BUCKET. AND LOOK AT THAT. WE CAN ALREADY CHECK IT OFF. IT IS HERE. IT IS OPERATIONAL. IT'S PLUGGED IN. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? THAT'S IT. WE'RE GONNA JUST DO SOME FINAL TESTING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T FORGET NOTHING. BUT IT'S IN AND RUNNING READY TO GO.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT POWER OUTAGE. MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE. MAYBE NOT. OKAY.
TOO SOON. IT'S TOO SOON, RIGHT? TOO SOON. BUT THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM REALLY WORKED WELL TO PLAN WITH EVERYBODY, TO PLAN WITH IT, TO PLAN WITH POLICE AND FIRE AND EVERYBODY SO THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON OFF TIMES, INCLUDING OVER THIS WEEKEND. SATURDAY WAS A BIG DAY GETTING THAT FINAL
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DONE AND EVERYTHING AND GETTING THAT ALL CONNECTED. SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING SO. WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER RENOVATIONS AT CITY HALL. A LOT OF THAT SHOWED UP IN THE MEDIUM TERM. BUCKET IS WHAT I WOULD SAY. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE NOW COMPLETED THE FACILITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT. SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN TERMS OF A EXPANSION OF CITY HALL, THOSE WERE ALL LONG TERM TYPE OF ITEMS THAT SHOWED UP THERE. RENOVATIONS FOR 103, WHICH AGAIN IS THE BUILDING ACROSS THE PARKING LOT, THE OLD LIBRARY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE FACILITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT. WE'RE GENERALLY IN A MEDIUM TO LONG TERM RATING CATEGORY FROM THAT MEETING. ANY JUMPING AROUND HERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT A LOT OF THAT WAS OTHER THAN THE GENERATOR, I THINK WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT I REALLY TOOK AWAY WAS THE IMMEDIATE PRIORITY. THE REST OF THAT WAS KIND OF, WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT WHEN WE HAVE TO. IS THAT FAIR? OKAY, OKAY, LIBRARY. WE IDENTIFIED ABOUT $3.8 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THE FACILITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT WOULD BE NEEDED, INCLUDING A NEW FACILITY. AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, A LOT OF THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS THE LONG TERM BUCKET IN THAT TIME PERIOD OF 2033 TO 2040. WHAT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU IS OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU KNOW, YOU AUTHORIZE US TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH LSNS. OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S DIFFERENT SINCE THIS TIME PERIOD. THEY ARE NOW ON SITE. THE INTERIM PUBLIC OR THE INTERIM LIBRARY DIRECTOR HAS BEEN HERE WORKING LAST WEEK AS WELL AS THIS WEEK. WE'RE BEGINNING THAT PROCESS. WE HAVE NOT YET EXECUTED THE CONTRACT.WE'RE WORKING ON A FEW THINGS THROUGH PROCUREMENT AND WORKING ON SOME FINAL DETAILS AND EVERYTHING BETWEEN LEGAL COUNCIL, MYSELF AND PROCUREMENT. BUT EVERYTHING IS MOVING ALONG.
I'LL SHARE WITH YOU TWO. THE DAY AFTER YOUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, I WENT OVER AND MET WITH THE LIBRARY MANAGEMENT TEAM, AND THEN I THINK IT WAS THURSDAY OF LAST WEEK. WE HAD AN ALL LIBRARY STAFF MEETING AND INTRODUCED THEM TO THE NEW INTERIM DIRECTO, AND SPENT SOME TIME ANSWERING QUESTIONS FOR AN HOUR OR SO. AND I THINK IT WAS. AND THEN AND THEN I KNOW THAT THE INTERIM LIBRARY DIRECTOR SPENT THE REST OF THE DAY MEETING WITH STAFF MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY AND EVERYTHING. SO. ANY QUESTIONS ON LONG TERM FOR THE NEW LIBRARY FACILITY? PARKS. PARKS HAS GOT A LOT HAPPENING. SOME OF THAT WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL TONIGHT, BUT ABOUT $40 MILLION IN INVESTMENT IS REALLY WHAT'S NEEDED OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS OR SO FOR PARKS. AND THAT INCLUDES ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE DIFFERENT PARKS. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS ONE RATHER QUICKLY BECAUSE WE'LL TALK SOME MORE ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT LATER. BUT RECREATION CENTER, $4.9 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FACILITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT WERE IDENTIFIED AS THE MEDIUM TERM BUCKET AT 1.9 MILLION AT THE SENIOR CENTER, IDENTIFIED IN THE LONG TERM BUCKET. HARRINGTON PARK IN PROGRESS. CAN YOU GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT ONE? I CAN'T GIVE AN UPDATE. PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION ACTUALLY STARTED YESTERDAY. THE EXCAVATOR SHOWED UP LAST FRIDAY AT 9 A.M. THEY STARTED TAKING THE BUILDING DOWN. THE CONCESSION STAND RESTROOM FACILITY AT DVBE BASEBALL FIELDS. BY 11 A.M. IT WAS A PILE OF RUBBLE, SO IT WAS AMAZING.
THEY CALLED ME AT NINE AND SAID, HEY, THEY'RE STARTING. AND I SAID, GREAT, I'LL BE OUT THERE ABOUT 11. CHECK IT OUT, TAKE SOME PICTURES, TAKE SOME PHOTOS. I MISSED IT ALL. SO THEY'RE MOVING? YEAH. THAT'S AWESOME. AGAIN, THAT WAS SOMETHING WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A PLAN FOR WHEN WE MET ON OCTOBER 29TH, BUT IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT PROGRESS MOVING FORWARD TO PHASE TWO. WE STILL HAVE SOME STUFF TO FIGURE OUT, RIGHT? YES, BUT I INCLUDED WITH THE WITH THE LAST WEEK AND HAD A VERY, VERY BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH BART. THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF THAT STUFF TO BE PHASED INTO A PROJECT, A TRAIL PROJECT BETWEEN CEDAR HILL AND DESOTO THAT MAYBE MIGHT HELP WITH SOME OF THE TRAIL, AT LEAST IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH HARRINGTON PARK IN PHASE THREE. IT'S AT LEAST ENGINEERING WISE, RIGHT? SO IT IS STILL DOING SOME FINAL DESIGN ISSUES WITH THAT. SOME A COUPLE OF HICCUPS WITH THE TREE LINE THAT GOES THROUGH THERE AS WELL AS DOING A FLOOD STUDY. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE SHARD AND HER GROUP, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF ENGINEERING GROUPS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CAUSE ANY ISSUES FOR THE FLOODING ON THE CREEK. SHOULD WE SHOULD WE PUT IT IN SO. ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS. WE GOT SOME STUFF HAPPENING. GOOD STUFF. I GROUP THESE TOGETHER. WE ASKED YOU TO RANK WHAT PARKS YOU FELT LIKE NEEDED SOME DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS. YOU KNOW LIONS HARRINGTON PARK RANKED
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PRETTY HIGH ON A COUPLE OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. RED BIRD RANKED PRETTY HIGH. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK WITH SOME MORE INFORMATION. AND EMBARC HAS SOMETHING WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A SECOND. I KNOW HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO DO AN UPDATE.POLICE. I GUESS WE CAN SKIP THAT ONE, RIGHT? NOBODY WANTS TO KNOW, OF COURSE. POLICE. AGAIN, FROM THIS MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT $11 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED AND EARLY ESTIMATES PROJECT A NEED OF AT LEAST 8 TO 10 MILLION FOR IMPROVEMENTS, A NEW BUILDING, NEW FACILITY. 86% OF THE RESPONDENTS ON OCTOBER 29TH RANKED THAT AS A SHORT TERM ITEM. WE'LL COME BACK TO THE MATRIX STUFF WHEN WE DO THE MATRIX WITH POLICE AND FIRE PUBLIC WORKS. PUBLIC WORKS NEEDS A WHOLE LOT OF LOVE. THEY HAVE GOT A LOT GOING ON, BUT THERE'S MORE TO DO. $59 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS THERE. OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SERVICE CENTER QUITE EXTENSIVELY, GIVE OR TAKE 9 OR $10 MILLION APPROXIMATELY FOR A SERVICE CENTER. AND AGAIN, THAT CAME AS AS A NEED, 79% SAID IT WAS A NEED. AND THEN IT RANKED PRETTY HIGH IN TERMS OF IMPROVEMENTS FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT PUBLIC WORKS IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED, WHETHER IT'S SERVICE CENTER, WHETHER IT'S DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, AMI, LSR, THOSE TYPES OF RANKINGS. AND AGAIN, IT RANKED 79% AS A SHORT TERM PROJECT, ESSENTIALLY 2526 TIMELINE IN TERMS OF THAT WATER MASTER PLAN, GOT A LOT OF SUPPORT, ALSO AS A SHORT TERM ITEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WATER MASTER PLAN. AND ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS.
AND I'LL JUMP INTO THE LIST. OKAY. SO ALL OF THAT INFORMATION THAT WE JUST KIND OF WENT THROUGH, AND I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH IT QUICKLY, THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THIS LIST OF THESE SHORT TERM PROJECTS THAT ARE NEEDED. SO IF YOU ALL CAN GET OUT YOUR CHECKBOOK, I JUST NEED $39 AND WE CAN MAKE IT. ALL RIGHT. SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A LOT. RIGHT. AND SO WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS TONIGHT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. RIGHT. GOOD NEWS IS. GENERATOR RIGHT. CHECK HARRINGTON PARK PHASE ONE AND THREE. CHECK CHECK. IT'S IN PROCESS. RIGHT. ARMY. WELL WE HAVE GRANT AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT WATER WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN. WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. FIELDHOUSE HVAC IS IN PROGRESS OKAY. SO WHAT'S NOT IN PROGRESS RIGHT NOW? SERVICE CENTER RENOVATION AND POLICE BUILDING. RIGHT. SO IF WE LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT AND THEN FIRE STATION TWO RENOVATIONS, WE DID MAKE A GRANT. BUT THAT'S NOT IN PROGRESS CURRENTLY. BUT THOSE TWO ARE THE TWO BIGGEST ONES FROM THIS LIST. SERVICE CENTER AND POLICE BUILDING. THE REST OF THIS WE AT LEAST HAVE A CONCEPT OF AN IDEA OF MAYBE HOW THOSE CAN MOVE FORWARD. DESPITE THE $30,000,009 MILLION PRICE TAG. ANY THOUGHTS? QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? WE'RE LISTENING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MEDIUM TERM PROJECTS RIGHT. SO 2028 TO 2033. SO AGAIN THIS IS REALLY OKAY. IT'S NOT ESSENTIAL. IT'S NOT EXACTLY IN THOSE IMMEDIATE. BUT AGAIN THERE'S ANOTHER $23 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED THERE. ASTERISK. ASTERISK.
RIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP AT COUNCIL MEETING IS THE POSSIBILITY OF A BOND.
RIGHT. I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT TONIGHT. BUT IF THE BOND COMMITTEE WERE TO COME BACK AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL, FOR INSTANCE, THOSE TWO BIG ONES, THE SERVICE CENTER AND THE POLICE BUILDING AND POSSIBLY THAT THIRD FIRE STATION, THOSE ARE REALLY, REALLY LIKE THE BIGGEST OF ALL OF THE EXPENSES FOR SINGLE PROJECTS. THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN MOVING ALL OF THIS FORWARD. BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS IF AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW WITH A DESIGN COMPANY AT NO COST TO WALK THROUGH THE BUILDING WITH US, AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET OUT OF THAT IS THEY'VE ACTUALLY SAID THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE US SOME RENDERINGS SO WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO YOU GUYS TO SEE IF WE COULD DO A COMBO PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING. MAYBE IT'S GOT COURT AND POLICE IN IT ASSOCIATED WITH, FOR INSTANCE, OVERALL BOND, THE SERVICE CENTER AND THE THIRD FIRE STATION. I'M NOT SO SURE WE REALLY NEED THAT LEVEL OF RENOVATIONS FOR CITY HALL, BECAUSE IF WE COULD DO THAT AND REPURPOSE THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHECK THAT OFF AS WELL. AND THEN THAT BECOMES A LOT MORE MANAGEABLE. LONG TERM PROJECTS, CITY HALL EXPANSION. AGAIN, DEPENDING ON HOW THAT ALL PLAYS
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OUT, WITH POTENTIAL PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING, THAT COULD LOOK SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S IN THE FACILITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT 103 RENOVATIONS. I'LL JUST SHARE WITH YOU. I'VE TALKED TO STAFF. I THINK PERSONALLY, IN MY OPINION, IF WE COULD CONSOLIDATE OUR OPERATIONS INTO A LITTLE BIT BIGGER FOOTPRINT, CITY HALL, PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING WITH POLICE, I REALLY BELIEVE WE COULD MOVE OUR NON-FRONT FACING OPERATIONS THAT ARE IN 103 INTO OUR BUILDINGS, AND THEN WE COULD DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WITH THAT BUILDING, WHETHER IT'S LEASING IT OUT, SELLING IT OR WHATEVER. AND AGAIN, WE'D BE ABLE TO CHECK THAT OFF BECAUSE THEN WE WOULDN'T NEED TO DO THAT NEW LIBRARY. THE THING THAT I'LL TELL YOU IN CONVERSATIONS WITH ALICE AND S THAT I'VE BEEN HAVING HERE RECENTLY IS THEY'RE MAKING IT VERY CLEAR WHILE THEY'RE WHILE THEY'RE WILLING TO INVEST IN IMPROVEMENTS AND FUNCTIONALITY AND EVEN SOME INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, THAT TYPE OF THING. IT COMES RIGHT DOWN TO IT. THE LIBRARY IS STILL OUR RESPONSIBILITY, THE FACILITY ITSELF. AND SO IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO A NEW LIBRARY, THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT AT THIS POINT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO NEED TO STAY IN THAT LONG TERM BUCKET. AND THEN THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. ANY IS EVERYBODY AT LEAST UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT OF THESE LISTS. RIGHT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN JUST TO REHASH HERE BRIEFLY AND I'LL GO THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY. THIS ALL KIND OF STARTED WITH THE FIRST LIST THAT I SAW WAS THIS HANDWRITTEN LIST THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KOONTZ KEEPS TELLING ME TO FIND A BETTER WAY TO SHARE IT. BUT SO WE'VE GOTTEN WE'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT BETTER, RIGHT? NOT A LOT BETTER, BUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. YOU SAW SOME OF THOSE THINGS. THIS WAS REALLY A MIXTURE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE ADDING SIX FIREFIGHTERS, BUT FOR INSTANCE, THAT WAS NEVER FUNDED. SO THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WITH THIS WHOLE LIST. BUT A LOT OF THE ITEMS I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ALL THE ITEMS, BUT A LOT OF THE ITEMS ON THIS LIST HAVE BEEN CAPTURED AS WE'VE TRIED TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE, THESE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS. WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE ACTION IN PROGRESS, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY ARE JUST KIND OF KICKED DOWN OR FUNDING IS NOT AVAILABLE, OR IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A CIP. WE TALKED THIS OTHER SHEET HERE ON THE WALL IS THE APRIL MEETING, THE LIST THERE, THE ARMY, THE FIELDHOUSE. ET CETERA. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE AS WELL AS THE IMPROVEMENTS THERE. OKAY. WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT IT REALLY IS. WE START THINKING ABOUT DOING THESE IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT IT REALLY MEANS, AND KIND OF THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE ON KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT, WHERE THINGS HAVE COME NUMBERS WISE IN TERMS OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. SO IN 2014, THE CITY'S ASSESSED VALUE WAS $1.7 MILLION. IN 2024, IT WAS, I'M SORRY, $1.7 BILLION, 4 BILLION. IN 2024, IT'S A TAXABLE VALUE. THE TAXABLE VALUE INCREASED 132%. OKAY. MEANWHILE, THE CITY'S TAX RATE IN 2014 WAS $0.75. AND NOW IT'S IN 2024. AND WE ACTUALLY JUST DROPPED IT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN 2025. BUT 2024 WAS $0.64. SO THAT'S AN 18% DECREASE. THE NEXT THING I WANT TO SHOW YOU THERE, AND THIS IS GOING TO CARRY THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES. WE'VE GOT TAXABLE VALUE GOING UP TAX RATE GOING DOWN RIGHT. SO THAT MAKES SENSE. IT'S A TAXABLE RATE OR TAXABLE VALUE GOES UP. THE RATE GOES DOWN. THE PROBLEM IS DURING THAT SAME TIME PERIOD YOU CAN SEE THE GENERAL FUND. THIS IS JUST GENERAL FUND. EXPENSES INCREASED 89% OVER THAT TEN YEAR PERIOD FROM 2014 TO 2020. FOR JUST GENERAL FUND FROM 22 MILLION TO 42 MILLION IN THAT TIME PERIOD. SO NOW YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE DISCREPANCY, RIGHT? THE GAP IS GETTING BIGGER BETWEEN WHAT THE TAX RATE IS AND THE EXPENSES AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO START REALLY RELYING ON FUND BALANCE TO ACTUALLY KEEP THE TAX RATE LOW, OR YOU'VE GOT TO FIND ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF REVENUE.BUT YOU'VE GOT THIS SITUATION WHERE EXPENSES ARE INCREASING AND THE REVENUE IS BASICALLY DECREASING, AND THAT GAP IS GETTING WIDER AND WIDER EVERY SINGLE YEAR. MR. FINCH? YES, SIR. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WAS THE REASON OR WHAT'S WHAT'S THE EXPENSES THAT'S GOING UP? IS THERE A MAJOR AREA OR IS IT. I WOULD SAY IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD, IT'S STAFF. IT'S EVERYTHING.
IT'S WHETHER IT'S COST OF ELECTRICITY, WHETHER IT'S FUEL AND VEHICLES, WHETHER IT'S VEHICLES, WHETHER IT'S STAFFING, IT'S WHETHER IT'S INSURANCES, IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.
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EVERYTHING CONTINUES TO GO UP YEAR AFTER YEAR. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SHOW YOU HERE IS THE AMOUNT THAT WAS LEVIED. OKAY. VERSUS SO GOING BACK HERE FOR A SECOND, THE ASSESSED VALUE AND THE TAX RATE. RIGHT. SO IF WE MULTIPLY THE RACKETED IF WE TAKE THE ASSESSED VALUE DIVIDE IT BY 100 AND MULTIPLY IT BY THE TAX RATE. THAT WILL TELL US HOW MUCH WE'RE LEVYING AGAINST THE RESIDENTS FOR PROPERTY TAX. SO IN 2014 IT WAS 13 MILLION. IN 2024 IT WAS 23 MILLION. SO THAT'S AN 81.9% INCREASE. MEANWHILE THAT TAX RATE CONTINUES TO GO DOWN. AND WHY AM I SHOWING YOU THIS? I'M SHOWING YOU THIS IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE WHAT I CAN SEE HERE HISTORICALLY IS TO COVER THE EXPENSES OF THE CITY, THE TAX LEVY HAS BEEN ABOUT 56% OF THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS. AND SO TO KEEP THAT SAME 56%, FOR INSTANCE, IN 2024, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LEVY OF $24,000,735.26 $826, BUT IT WAS ONLY 23,000,832. SO INSTEAD, THE TAX RATE BEING $0.61 TECHNICALLY FOLLOWING THAT SAME PATH, THAT 56%, THAT TAX RATE SHOULD HAVE BEEN 63.5 CENTS. OKAY. AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE ITS DURATION IS GETTING WIDER ANYWAY. BUT THEN WHEN WE'RE LOWERING THE TAX RATE, IT'S THAT MUCH MORE OKAY. SO FOR EVERY PENNY YOU INCREASE THE TAX RATE, IT GENERATES ABOUT $400,000 IN REVENUE BASED ON THE MOST RECENT ASSESSED VALUE. SO AS WE TALK ABOUT PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE BIG LIST 100,000 HERE, 200,000 THERE, A PENNY GETS US BASICALLY 400,000. YOU WITH ME? THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS I GOT MORE, BUT WE'RE JUST WONDERING WHERE ARE YOU GOING? I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU'RE ALL RIGHT, SO GO AHEAD.LET'S GO BACK. ONE SLIDE. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YES THE TAX RATE HAS DECREASED BUT THE PROPERTY VALUE HAS INCREASED. THEREFORE IF IT'S INCREASING THEN WE'RE BRINGING IN MORE TAXES BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS. SO THAT OTHER SLIDE THAT YOU SHOWED, EVEN IF WE CONTINUE WITH THE SAME FORMULA OF 56%, YOU'RE SAYING WE SHOULD HAVE PUT IN 24 MILLION, BUT WE ONLY PULLED IN 23 MILLION BECAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY DECREASING THE TAX. BUT TO STAY ALONG THAT SAME LINE AND NOT TO DO ANYTHING ELSE, WE WOULD NEED TO KEEP WHATEVER RATE THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO BRING IN THE 56. CORRECT. CENT. RIGHT. I THINK YOU GOT IT. YOU GOT IT. I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. SO. AGAIN, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS AND THIS CHART REALLY WHAT IT SHOWS YOU IS WHERE WE ANTICIPATE BASED ON A 3% INCREASE IN ASSESSED VALUE, WHERE WE'LL BE BY THE YEAR 2040. AND THE CITY SHOULD BE ASSESSED AT $6.4 BILLION. IF WE DO NOTHING AND WE JUST GO UP 3% EACH YEAR AND DO NOTHING ELSE, NO NEW DEVELOPMENT OR ANYTHING ELSE, IT SHOULD BE ABOUT $6.4 BILLION. OKAY. NOW AGAIN, BASED ON THAT PERCENTAGE AND THOSE RATES, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT CONTINUED WIDENING OF THE GAP. THUS THE REASON REMEMBER, IN THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED FOR A MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. WE TALKED ABOUT ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF REVENUE, WAYS OF GETTING THAT THAT TAXABLE VALUE UP A LITTLE BIT. NOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT EXPENSES, THIS IS JUST THE GENERAL FUND, 44 MILLION 2025. IF I FIGURE A 5% INCREASE, WHICH IS, BY THE WAY, THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, 5%, THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE CAPITAL PROJECTS OR ANYTHING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS, 107% INCREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSES, 5% YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. AND AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LONG TERM BUDGETING, MULTI-YEAR BUDGETING. SO IF I FOLLOW THAT SAME PATTERN IN THAT 56% GENERAL EXPENSE EXPENSES COVERED BY PROPERTY TAX, THAT MEANS I NEED 25,000,000 IN 25. THAT MEANS I NEED 52,000,000 IN 2040. THAT MEANS THE TAX RATE OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS NEEDS TO GO FROM $0.65 TO $0.82, JUST TO
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BREAK EVEN WITHOUT ANY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. AGAIN, I WANT YOU TO BE MINDFUL OF IT. THIS IS JUST THE NUMBERS FOLLOWING WHAT THE HISTORICAL AVERAGES HAVE BEEN. AND IF WE DO NOTHING TO ALTER IT, LIKELY WHERE THEY WOULD GO. BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF REVENUE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO LOOK AT NEW WAYS OF BUILDING. WE NEED TO LOOK AT MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. WE NEED TO LOOK AT WAYS TO INCREASE OUR SALES TAX AND ALL THE ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF REVENUE MAY BE SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS AND ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. RIGHT, SO THAT WE CAN HELP OFFSET THIS. BEFORE I MOVE ON TO PROJECTS AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? THOUGHTS? AGAIN, NOT TO SCARE YOU OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST REALITY. IT'S REALITY. IF WE DO NOTHING, THIS IS WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING. WELL, IT'S NOT. I THINK EVERYBODY AT THIS TABLE IS AWARE OF THIS SITUATION. RIGHT. BUT HERE'S THE NUMBERS. YEAH, I APPRECIATE YOU. I MEAN SHOWING IT TO US, GIVING US A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. YEAH. BUT I MEAN AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COMMUNICATE THIS EFFECTIVELY TO VOTERS, BUT I MEAN, LIKE YOU SAID THIS, THIS IS A REALITY THAT WE HAVE TO STOP IGNORING. AND I MEAN, SOONER OR LATER SOMEONE'S GOING, I MEAN. IF IT'S NOT US, I MEAN, I HATE FOR THE PEOPLE IN 2035 TO HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME PRESENTATION. AND HAVING DONE NOTHING. RIGHT NOW, WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO START, REALLY HAVING EARNEST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF REVENUE. I MEAN, LET'S USE THE QUINT AS AN EXAMPLE, RIGHT? HOPEFULLY WE GET THIS MILLION DOLLAR GRANT. OTHERWISE, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT IS THE CITY AT LEAST WAS MOVING FORWARD WITH JUST PURCHASING THAT FOR $1.7 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. WE NEED TO BE CREATIVE. HOW CAN WE STRETCH OUR DOLLAR FURTHER, WHETHER IT'S GRANTS OR WHATEVER? WELL, SO I WOULDN'T MIND HAVING ANOTHER MEETING WHERE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION LIKE THIS AND WE TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE ALL OF OUR OPTIONS FOR ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF REVENUE AND NOT THE SAME CONVERSATION. HAPPY TO DO IT. SO WHAT ARE YOUR FINDINGS ON THAT? WE'D HAVE TO YOU TELLING THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW. POTENTIALLY. NO DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.THEIR TAXES COULD GO UP 0.65 TODAY TO FIVE YEARS FROM NOW IF WE GO UP. $0.75, $0.05 UP. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OTHER IDEAS TO MINIMIZE THAT BELOW, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. RIGHT. SO FOR INSTANCE, AS AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS AND LIKE FOR INSTANCE, I'M GOING TO PICK ON HERE OR POINT OUT SPECIFICALLY IN 2033, YOU SEE THE PROPOSED TAX RATE AGAIN BASED ON THE ASSESSED VALUE AND WHAT THE PROJECTION FOR THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSES, EXPENSES WOULD BE TO BE $0.73, BUT IN 24 IT WOULD GO DOWN. FOR 2034 IT WOULD GO DOWN TO $0.72. WHY? BECAUSE THE CURRENT BOND FALLS OFF. AND SO IF WE DO DO A NEW BOND AND THIS IS FACTORING IN A NEW BOND AS WELL AS SERVICE ON THE NEW BOND, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. AS I WENT THROUGH THIS, I FACTORED THAT IN, BUT THEN THAT WOULD FALL OFF, BUT THE OTHER ONE WOULD STILL REMAIN OUT THROUGH 2040 IF WE DID A 15 YEAR BOND. AND KEEP IN MIND, THAT OTHER BOND WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY.
RICHARD, I THINK THEY SAID IT WAS $0.04, RIGHT? 4 OR $0.05 MAX. SO YEAH, AND HOPEFULLY IT WOULD BE LESS THAN THAT. I SEE SOME PUZZLED LOOKS. ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS, THOUGHTS. SO HOW DO YOU PROPOSE THAT WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE? BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE HISTORICALLY DONE IS DECREASE THE TAX RATE. AND WE AND THAT'S WITH GOING TO THE MAX BEFORE TRIGGERING A VOTE. HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE THE. STOP STOP DECREASING. IF NOTHING ELSE, REMEMBER THAT WE KEEP GOING TO A VOTE. REMEMBER? WELL, NOT I SAID WE WERE STAYING BELOW. NO, WE WERE STAYING BELOW THE RATE. AND JENNIFER UNFORTUNATELY IS SHE COULD ANSWER THIS QUESTION BETTER THAN ME AND RICHARD TO JUMP IN HERE IF YOU WANT. BUT VOTER APPROVAL RATE. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY. SO WE WERE STAYING JUST BELOW THAT, RIGHT. SO MAYBE YOU STAY RIGHT AT THAT. OR I THINK WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT AT SOME POINT THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO NEED TO BE A CORRECTION. MAYBE NOT
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THIS YEAR, MAYBE NOT THE NEXT YEAR. BUT WE NEED TO SAY, HEY, VOTERS, THIS IS WHERE THIS IS GOING AND PROBABLY PRESENT SOMETHING TO THE VOTERS BECAUSE WE'RE SQUEEZING THE ORANGE TIGHTER AND TIGHTER AND TIGHTER. IS THAT FAIR, RICHARD? THAT'S FAIR. SO IN MY MIND, AND I COULD BE WRONG IF YOU'RE SAYING TO ME THAT WE NEED TO JUMP REALLY HIGH, HOW MUCH MORE OF AN INCREASE IN OUR ABOVE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, HOW MUCH HIGHER WOULD WE NEED TO GO IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE PROJECTING FOR US TO STAY ON TARGET? SO IF WE'RE AT $0.61 NOW, RIGHT. SO WE WERE AT 64. WE DROPPED TO 61. RIGHT. SO BASED ON THIS CALCULATION HERE RIGHT THERE WOULD BE A $0.65. AND AGAIN THIS IS WAY PRELIMINARY. WE'RE JUST TALKING CONCEPTUAL RIGHT. YOU GOT TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE. BUT AT $0.65. AND WE'D HAVE TO ACTUALLY WITH THE WAY THE EXEMPTIONS WORK AND EVERYTHING ELSE, WE'D HAVE TO RUN THIS BECAUSE PART OF THIS IS ALSO DEBT SERVICE IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, AND THAT REALLY KICKS INTO NEXT YEAR. SO WE'D HAVE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS AND SEE IF IT WOULD TRIGGER THE VOTE OR NOT. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD JUST INITIALLY, BUT I THINK SOMETIME 26, 27, 28 SOMEWHERE IN THERE THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE OKAY. I WON'T BE RUNNING FOR OFFICE. YES, SIR. DO YOU ADDRESS THE FUND BALANCE AND HOW THIS PLAYS INTO THIS? BECAUSE IT'S BEEN INCREASING QUITE A BIT AND PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION AND WE'RE STILL RAISING RATES. SO CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT. FANTASTIC QUESTION. AND RIGHT. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME MORE PROJECTS HERE IN A SECOND. BUT A GREAT WAY TO DO THAT IS FOR YOU TO APPROPRIATE FUND BALANCE TO GO TOWARDS A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET DONE. RIGHT. BECAUSE THEN WE CAN SAY TO VOTERS, OKAY, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE USING FUND BALANCE TO COVER IT INSTEAD OF TAXES. RIGHT. BUT SO THAT MONEY, RICHARD, DO YOU KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD BY ANY CHANCE, WITH THE GENERAL FUND IS OR BY ANY CHANCE DO PUTTING YOU GUYS ON THE SPOT? JENNIFER IS JENNIFER KNOWS THOSE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF HER HEAD. YEAH. UNAUDITED BECAUSE WE'RE GENERAL FUND. WE WERE UP ABOVE. 20. THE IF YOU RECALL FROM THE MONTHLY PRESENTATIONS WE HAVE THE AMOUNT THAT WE TRY TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE 90 DAY AND WHAT THE 110, 150 DAY NUMBER IS, SO THAT WE ALWAYS CONSIDER THAT FOR OPERATIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT BUILT IN. SO WE ARE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUND BALANCE DISCUSSION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT VARIANCE OVER AND ABOVE THAT MAXIMUM NUMBER.AND ALSO KEEPING IT IN MIND TO THE CITY MANAGER'S POINT THAT IF WE CAN ONE EARMARK IT FOR A SPECIFIC PROJECTS. SO FOR BETTER DISCUSSION WITH THE RESIDENTS. BUT THEN THE SECOND THING IS ALSO TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT AS THE FUND BALANCE GOES, ESSENTIALLY ONE SHOT AT THE APPLE. RIGHT. SO WHEN IT'S GONE, IT'S GONE. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GENERATING WHERE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS SAME DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL FUND BALANCE TO YOU.
SO ALL THINGS THAT NEED TO PLAY INTO THE DISCUSSION TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS COUNCIL IS COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BUT WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE FUND BALANCE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BECAUSE WE ESSENTIALLY ONLY HAVE ONE SHOT ONCE THAT THAT THAT PIECE IS GONE, THEN IT'S GONE.
RIGHT. AND I THINK I THINK DURING COVID, I THINK WE ALMOST WIPED OUT EVERYTHING. AND NOW FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, ABOUT 5 MILLION CORRECT BALANCE RIGHT NOW. YES. AND SO WE'LL HAVE WE'LL HAVE AN AUDITED YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, MONTH AND A HALF IS OUR TARGET.
CERTAINLY. BUT WE'LL HAVE AN AUDITED NUMBER FOR 24. SO WE CAN HAVE A MORE SPECIFIC DISCUSSION ON, ON THAT FUND BALANCE. I THINK JUST LET'S BE CLEAR, I BELIEVE AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO. RIGHT. SO I THINK GENERAL FUND UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE IS GIVE OR TAKE 20, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 5 MILLION OVER OUR FUND BALANCE POLICY. MAXIMUM. RIGHT I BELIEVE. YEAH.
BALLPARK ISH. YEAH OKAY. SO ANOTHER MEETING. BUT I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION BECAUSE. SO BACK TO THESE PROJECTS. YOU COULD PROBABLY DO ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS. AND THEN THE FUND BALANCE WOULD BE BACK TO ONE AND A HALF OR, YOU KNOW, BACK TO 90 DAYS OR 60 DAYS. AND
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SO AND THEN THAT'S GONE. AND NOW WE NO LONGER I MEAN, YEAH, IF WE TOOK, YOU KNOW, WHERE WOULD YOU TAKE 2 MILLION OUT OF THAT? SO I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION. NO. AND KEEP IN MIND HOW DID YOU GET FUND BALANCE POLICY. BECAUSE AND KEVIN AND I WERE TALKING EARLIER, I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OLD BUDGETS. I WANT TO SAY DURING COVID, I THINK YOUR FUND BALANCE WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 5 MILLION, WASN'T IT? DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT, OR DO YOU KNOW, 20, 20 ISH OR SOMETHING? IT HAD GOTTEN DOWN PRETTY LOW AT ONE POINT. I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH IT WAS. I MEAN, WE WOULD DO ONE TIME PROJECTS EACH YEAR OUT OF, OUT OF FUND BALANCE, BUT KEEP WITHIN THE PARAMETERS AND THEN KEEP IN MIND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF GOOD YEARS THERE, REALLY GOOD INTEREST RATES, WHICH REALLY HELPED TO BOOST THE INVESTMENT INCOME, WHICH IS ACTUALLY HOW SOME OF THAT FUND BALANCE REALLY GOT TO WHERE IT'S AT NOW. AND SO THE RATES AREN'T AS GOOD. SO YOU JUST HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THIS. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SCARE ANYBODY OR ANYTHING WITH THIS. THIS IS IF YOU'RE A NASCAR FAN, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT THIS. I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THIS IS NOT A RED FLAG. IT'S NOT A GREEN FLAG. IT'S PROBABLY A YELLOW FLAG. JUST BE AWARE. JUST BE AWARE. WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF IT. WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT IT. AS WE REALLY START THINKING ABOUT WHAT PROJECTS YOU WANT TO DO. SO HOW DO YOU GET A CHECKERED FLAG? YOU GOT TO COMPLETE THE RACE. SO 2040, YOU GOT TO STAY TILL 2040 AND THEN GET DONE. SO. ALL RIGHT LET'S TALK ABOUT PROJECTS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON GENERAL FINANCIAL. ALL RIGHT. SO. SINCE OUR OCTOBER 29TH MEETING AND PLEASE I SAW COUNCIL MEMBER PLEASE JUMP UP HERE. GRAB THIS ONE. THIS IS MEANT TO BE AN INFORMAL WORKSHOP. CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. SO SINCE OCTOBER 29TH MEETING WE HAVE THE MATRIX REPORT. IT'S ALMOST DONE. WE HAVE KIND OF THE FINAL DRAFT OF FIRE. I THINK THERE MAY BE 1 OR 2 SMALL LITTLE EDITS IN IT, BUT THAT'LL BE COMING TO YOU VERY, VERY SOON. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. HERE. WE HAVE THE MATRIX REPORT FOR THE POLICE STUDY THAT IS ALSO ALMOST DONE. THERE'S A FEW MORE EDITS IN THAT ONE THAT NEED TO GO BACK. BUT WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE. WE HAVE THE LAD NATURE PRESERVE MASTER PLAN. WE HAVE THE DOG PARK MASTER PLAN. WE NOW HAVE THE LEAD SERVICE LINE. INVENTORY HAS BEEN DONE.COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IN PROGRESS. WE HAVE A DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN SCHEDULED, AND I KNOW THAT THIS WAS REFERRING TO EARLIER. PARKER STEVENSON REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN UPDATE OF THE PARKS MASTER PLAN AS WE APPROACH THIS NEW BUDGET TRAILS MASTER PLAN. AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A WATER MASTER PLAN. ALSO, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU IS I LOVE THIS, BUT I'M A PLANE GEEK. YOU GUYS KNOW THIS. I LOVE THAT WE HAVE THESE PLANS. BECAUSE WHAT I'LL DO AND YOU'LL SEE THIS IN A SECOND, IS I GO TO THE ACTION ITEMS AND I SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE ACTION ITEMS FROM THIS PLAN AND WHERE ARE WE AT? SO, CHIEF, MAYBE YOU COULD SHARE OUR RECENT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ACTION ITEMS FROM THE FIRE STUDY THAT WE NOT ALL THE DETAILS, JUST HIGH LEVEL. SO. WELL, THE HIGHLIGHTS WE HAVE, WE'RE WELL UNDERWAY WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH VARIOUS ITEMS. LET ME GET TO THE RECOMMENDATION PAGE. BY THE WAY I. DON'T OVERLOOK ANYTHING. CHIEF. I HAVE MY EMAIL TO YOU IF IT HELPS YOU WITH THE DO YOU HAVE IT? OKAY. THANK YOU.
SO. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FORMALLY ADOPTING THE BENCHMARK RESPONSE OF PERFORMANCE OBJECTIVES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FOR RESPONSE TIMES AND WHAT HAVE YOU WORKING WITH THE SWCC ON THOSE BENCHMARK TIMES? IT'S PART OF NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION 1710. THOSE ARE WELL UNDERWAY. THE TURNOUT TIME THAT IS GOING TO BE A WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO THERE. THE CHALLENGES IS GETTING THE RIGHT TIME COMING OUT OF THE COMPUTER ASSISTED DISPATCH, WHAT WE CALL THE CAD. AND SO WE ARE WORKING. WE GOT A CAD PROJECT GOING ON RIGHT NOW, RECORD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES. BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT GETTING INTO THE WEEDS. BUT YOU KNOW WE PUSH THE STATUS BUTTONS ON THE FIREFIGHTERS. IT'S NOT ACKNOWLEDGING QUICKLY. BUT I CAN SHOW THAT WITH ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT, FOR US GETTING OUT OF THE FIRE STATION QUICKER. AND CHIEF CHASE AND I ARE REALLY DRIVING THAT POINT. AND THAT'LL HELP THE TRAVEL TIMES. THAT GOES MORE INTO THE THIRD FIRE STATION. IT IS WHAT IT IS. WE'RE
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NOT GOING TO BUST INTERSECTIONS AND BE UNSAFE. AND AS WE'RE RESPONDING. SO TURNOUT TIME AND CERTAINLY THERE'S SOME IMPROVEMENT FOR THE ALARM PROCESSING TIMES AT THE DISPATCH CENTER THAT THEY CAN WORK ON AS WELL. AND WE'RE GOING TO POST THOSE TURNOUT TIMES MONTHLY. AND WE'RE FINALIZING THAT HERE HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO. THAT'LL BE DONE. THE THIRD FIRE STATION, WE FORM A LABOR MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE. I LIKE GETTING A LOT OF FINGERPRINTS ON THE DOCUMENTS. SO WE GET THE UNIONS PERSPECTIVE, CERTAINLY MANAGEMENT AS WELL AND WORK COLLABORATIVE TOGETHER. WE'VE BEEN HAVING BREAKFASTS. WE GOT THE LAST ONE THIS WEEK, BUT THOSE HAVE GONE VERY WELL. AND CERTAINLY THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF OUR STATION. AND CERTAINLY WITH THE POTENTIAL THE GRANT OF GETTING A REPLACEMENT OF THE TWIN EXHAUST EXTRACTION SYSTEM. BUT CERTAINLY STAFFING IS PROBABLY THEIR BIGGEST ISSUE. AND THE REPORT THAT MATRIX DID, THEY REFERENCED WHAT THEY CALL AGAIN, NFPA 1710.IT'S A DEPLOYMENT STANDARD. AND I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE TURNOUT TIMES, THINGS THAT WE CONTROL NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED. BUT CERTAINLY WE HAVE A DEFICIENCY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY ON RESPONSE TIMES. AND WE ALSO SO WE NEED THAT THIRD ENGINE, BUT WE ALSO NEED WHAT THEY DESCRIBE AS A PEAK TIME AMBULANCE. DURING OUR MOST OF OUR CALLS ARE DURING THE DAY, DAYLIGHT HOURS. AND THERE'S ALSO A RECOMMENDATION FOR A PEAK TIME TRI CITY AMBULANCE THAT WOULD BE LOCATED SOMEWHERE IN THE TRI CITIES. WE'RE NOT NOWHERE NEAR MAKING THE DETERMINATION ON THAT YET, BUT CERTAINLY AS WE ADD THESE ADDITIONAL UNITS AND STAFFING AS WE GO ALONG, ULTIMATELY, TO GET STATION THREE OPEN AND YOU'LL HEAR THIS LATER. BUT YOU KNOW, THE BEST PRACTICES FOR MEMBER STAFFING. WE STAFF A MINIMUM OF THREE ON OUR ENGINE, AND QUINT COMBINATION ENGINE LADDER TRUCK, IF YOU WILL. AND THE BEST PRACTICE IS FOUR AND THEY'VE CERTAINLY AND I CONCUR WITH THAT AS WELL TO ME. BUT I'M A I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN TRYING TO DO THAT INCREMENTALLY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WITH THE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AS I'VE TOLD THE FIREFIGHTERS, YOU WANT ALL OR NOTHING, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET NOTHING. AND SO WE'VE GOT TO WORK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CITY, WITH THE BUDGET AND WITH ITS FUNDING WORK TOWARDS THAT GOAL, YOU KNOW, 3 TO 5 YEARS. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT TIME FRAME. BUT SOMETHING OVER TIME.
SO THAT AND. CONSIDER IMPROVING OUR INSPECTION PROGRAM IS NOT SERIOUS ISSUES THERE. BUT JUST CONTINUALLY MAKE SURE WE'RE HITTING ALL OUR TARGET HAZARDS AND WHAT HAVE YOU TO GET THOSE BUILDINGS INSPECTED. AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN THE FIRE MARSHAL. AND SO WE'VE HAD A RETIREMENT THERE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TESTING FOR THAT POSITION HERE SOON. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH POTENTIALLY ASSISTANT FIRE MARSHAL AS WELL. SO WE'LL BE RESTAFFING THAT DEPARTMENT IS ALSO SO THAT'S THE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THERE THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON. YES, SIR. GOING BACK TO THE STAFFING AND APPARATUS, I THOUGHT I REMEMBER YEARS AGO THAT WE COULD RUN WITH THREE, BUT IF THEY GET TO A FIRE, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THEY CAN'T DO BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT FOURTH GUY. RIGHT. THAT'S TRUE. WELL, WELL, THERE'S A WHAT WE CALL TWO IN AND TWO OUT. AND THAT'S MENTIONED. YOU NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO FIREFIGHTERS OUTSIDE TO MAKE THAT INITIAL INTERIOR ATTACK. THAT'S THE BEST PRACTICE. NOW THE CHALLENGE OF THAT IS WITH THREE YOU GOT THE DRIVER AND YOU JUST HAVE TWO GOING IN. AND DEPENDING ON WHEN THAT NEXT, WHETHER IT BE OUR TRUCK OR ONE OF THE TRI CITY FIRE TRUCKS ARRIVE TO SUPPLEMENT THAT STAFFING TO GET CLOSER TO THAT BEST PRACTICE. BUT IT'S A DEFICIENCY NOW, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. SO WE'RE NOT MEETING THAT NATIONAL BEST PRACTICE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALSO ON STAFFING, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU AS WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE FIREFIGHTERS, A COUPLE OF STAFFING THINGS REALLY GOT MY ATTENTION FROM THOSE CONVERSATIONS. ONE IS. HEY I'LL JUST PUT IT OUT THERE. FIREFIGHTERS FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ADJUSTMENT THERE.
THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY GOT MY ATTENTION IS THEY HAD RUN SOME ANALYSIS, AND IN THEIR OPINION, THEY HAVE FEWER FIREFIGHTERS NOW ACTIVE RESPONSE AND MAKE SURE YOU GUYS WERE THERE. SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THEN WHAT THEY HAD TEN YEARS AGO AND THE CALL VOLUME IS HIGHER. SO THEY'RE REALLY FEELING THE BANDWIDTH IS STRETCHED AND VERY CONCERNED
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ABOUT THAT. AND SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANNING, THAT THIRD FIRE STATION, THAT'S ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE THINKING IS IT'S NOT ONLY A THIRD STATION, IT'S THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING TO HELP WITH THAT BANDWIDTH PROBLEM. RIGHT. WELL, AND THEN WE GOT INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A CONVERSATION ALSO. IT'S LIKE AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE CHOO CHOO TRAIN VERSUS THE ROLLER COASTER, RIGHT? INSTEAD OF GOING AN UPHILL CLIMB AND ADDING 18 NEW FIREFIGHTERS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SPOILER ALERT, YOU MIGHT START TO SEE SOME STUFF IN THE BUDGET. IF WE ADD THREE FIREFIGHTERS HERE THIS YEAR AND THREE FIREFIGHTERS NEXT YEAR AND THAT TYPE OF THING. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL.THAT BEGS THE QUESTION THAT, ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAFF A NEW FIRE STATION? WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE FEASIBILITY OF GETTING IT FULLY STAFFED? I MEAN, I DON'T AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT, BUT I SEE A SCENARIO WHERE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE AND YOU BUILD THE STATION, THAT THERE COULD BE AN EVEN DEEPER PROBLEM. AND WE HAVE, WHAT, TWO VACANCIES NOW? THREE AND WE'VE EXHAUSTED OUR ELIGIBILITY LIST. SO WE'RE WE'RE JUST BACK. THAT MEMO JUST WENT OUT TODAY TO GIVE ANOTHER ENTRANCE EXAM. SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF APPLICANTS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY MOST OF THEM DON'T MAKE THE CUT FOR VARIOUS REASONS. AND SO WE WANT TO BE SELECTIVE BUT NOT TO THE POINT OF IT'S A VERY STANDARD PROCESS. AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH HOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH IT WITH MAKING SURE YOU GET QUALIFIED CANDIDATES TO COME INTO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO WE DON'T WANT TO LOWER OUR STANDARDS JUST TO FILL SEATS. THANK YOU. WHAT WOULD BE THE NUMBER THAT YOU SEE US NEEDING TO FULLY STAFF THREE FIRE STATIONS? AND WHAT DO WE HAVE NOW? WELL, FOR THE THIRD FIRE STATION, THAT'S BIG. IT'S A MINIMUM. STAFFING IS IF YOU GO WITH THE CURRENT STAFFING LEVEL, THAT'S FIVE PEOPLE. AND AGAIN, THAT PEAK TIME AMOS IS NOT 24 HOURS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER. WELL, LET'S GO WITH BEST CASE SCENARIO. LET'S GO WITH BEST CASE SCENARIO. YEAH. BUT WELL THEN YOU GOT TO HAVE A STAFFING FACTOR AND ALL THAT. SO YOU YOU'RE GOING TO NEED AT LEAST 18 TO 20 POSITIONS TO STAFF THAT FIRE STATION. DO WE COUNT FOR LEAVE TIME AND ALL THAT WITH THE FIREFIGHTERS HAVE TO TAKE IT WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE AND EQUIPMENT AND EQUIPMENT INCHES EQUIPMENT AMBULANCE REALLY IDEALLY. RIGHT. SO THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY CITY WIDE, BUT ESPECIALLY THE WEST SIDE. RIGHT. THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE CALLS ARE AMBULANCE. SO HAVING AMBULANCES BEING ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THOSE REAL LIFE NUMBERS SO THAT WE AS A COUNCIL, WHEN WE GET TO THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT STAFF AND PERSONNEL, THAT WE HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF US SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO COST. RIGHT. AND AS WELL. YEAH. YEAH. IT'S AND IT'S, IT'S A COST. RIGHT. IT'S NOT ONLY THE BUILDING BUT IT'S, IT'S THE ONGOING OPERATIONS AS WELL AS THE EQUIPMENT, SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT IN TERMS OF AMBULANCES, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE SOME OTHER AMBULANCES. BUT IN THE MEANTIME WE'RE GOING TO BE YOU'LL BE SEEING THE MATRIX FINAL REPORT HERE IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE. BUT THAT REGIONAL TYPE AMBULANCE THAT CAN RESPOND DURING THOSE PEAK TIMES. THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WORKING WITH OUR PARTNER IN CITIES WITH CURRENTLY A THIRD OF THE COST. IF WE WORK WITH OUR PARTNER CITY. SO IT'S COST EFFECTIVE, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF COORDINATING THAT.
THANK YOU. YEP. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON FIRE? THANKS, CHIEF. SO THEN THE MATRIX REPORT POLICE AND CHIEF STOCKTON ARE ON THE SPOT HERE. MAYBE YOU SHARE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS. AND ACTUALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STAFFING AND FILL, MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE SOME OF YOUR EXPERIENCES, WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY DOING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY. GOOD EVENING. SO THIS IS A VERY STRICT DRAFT THAT WE'RE I'M REVIEWING NOW. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, BUT SPECIFICALLY ON THE OUR CURRENT POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND I HIGHLIGHTED A LOT OF STUFF ON THIS BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE SAYING IS IMPORTANT. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BORE YOU WITH IT. I THINK THE MAIN THING IS ONE OF THEIR BULLET POINTS IS THE FACILITY IS UNDERSIZED TO MEET THE CURRENT AND FUTURE NEEDS OF THE DUNCANVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO BE DISCUSSED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE WEEDS ON THE REASONS WHY.
ULTIMATELY, IT'S JUST NOT LARGE ENOUGH FOR US TO FUNCTION PROPERLY. FORTUNATELY, OUR BIGGEST UNIT, OUR BIGGEST DIVISION, IS PATROL. FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE OUT THERE ON THE STREET WORKING OUR PERSONNEL. IT'S ALSO RECOMMENDED INCREASING THAT AS WELL. AND
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THEY GAVE TWO SPECIFIC DATES, 2029 AND I BELIEVE 2034 ON IMPLEMENTING THAT INCREASE. WE ARE FINALLY IN THE PLUS. LAST YEAR WE GAINED MORE THAN WE'VE LOST. AND I HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE OUR PEOPLE ARE GETTING OVERWORKED. WE STILL HAVE SEVEN VACANCIES, BUT WE HAVE A TEST COMING MARCH 1ST AND WE HAVE A 100 APPLICANTS NOW. WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT THESE PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR OUR TEST. UNFORTUNATELY, WE FOUND OUT TODAY THERE'S ANOTHER AGENCY LOCAL, THAT'S TESTING THE SAME DAY AND TALKING ABOUT PAY THEIR PAYS CERTAINLY MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE. SO WE'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME OF THOSE APPLICANTS BECAUSE OF THAT. SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. WE'VE WE'VE BECOME EXTREMELY EFFICIENT IN OUR BACKGROUND PROCESS WHERE OUR CURRENT LIST, WE'RE WE'RE DOWN TO FOUR PEOPLE BECAUSE WE'RE CUTTING PEOPLE BASED ON THINGS IN THEIR BACKGROUND, BASED ON THINGS THAT YOU GUYS DON'T WANT SOMEBODY IN THIS UNIFORM OUT THERE WORKING BASED ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST. SO WE'RE ABLE TO REDUCE A LOT OF THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS BASED ON SOME OF THE ADJUSTMENTS WE DID IN THE HIRING PROCESS. SO WE'RE ABLE TO TEST MORE OFTEN IN THE HOPES OF GARNERING MORE APPLICATIONS. LATERAL OFFICERS. WE JUST HIRED A NEW LATERAL OFFICER. HE STARTED THIS MONDAY. SO THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO HIRE LATERAL OFFICERS TO REDUCE THAT TIME EVEN MORE. BUT AS I SAID IN THE PAST, ON THE OCTOBER MEETING, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU BRING PEOPLE INTO OUR STATION, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO RECRUIT PEOPLE AND KEEP PEOPLE HERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO OTHER AGENCIES FOR TRAINING AND SEEING WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH AND SEEING THE LOCKER ROOMS THEY HAVE. SO IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN IN OUR POWER TO KEEP PEOPLE HERE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREAT POLICE DEPARTMENT. I THINK EVERYBODY IN HERE WILL AGREE WITH THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S IT. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TRAINING OR TESTING COMING UP, BUT I WANT THE COUNCIL KNOW YOU'RE DOING THOSE REGULARLY. I MEAN WE ARE JUST SO 30 DAYS AGO. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE DONE TO INCREASE OR DECREASE THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET THROUGH THESE LISTS IS WE ONLY HAD TWO PEOPLE DOING BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS. WELL, NOW I HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE DOING BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS. SO NOW WE'RE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THESE 25 PERSON LISTS MUCH QUICKER FOR US TO START ADVERTISING THE NEXT TEST. AND WE'VE ONLY ADVERTISED FOR THIS TEST FOR MAYBE FOUR WEEKS. AND WE ALREADY HAVE 100 APPLICATIONS. SO WE SHOULD HAVE A GOOD, GOOD RESULT THIS TIME.AND WE HAVE SEVEN VACANCIES. SO I'M HOPING TO CUT THAT DOWN IN HALF ON THIS NEXT TEST. CHIEF, ARE THE BACKGROUND TESTS DONE BEFORE THEY TAKE THE TEST? IT IS NOT. NO, SIR. SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY WILL TURN IN THEIR PERSONAL HISTORY STATEMENT AT THE TEST, AND WE'VE REDUCED THAT WHERE IN THE PAST YOU WOULD TEST AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TEN DAYS TO PROVIDE US YOUR, YOUR PERSONAL HISTORY STATEMENT. WELL, THAT'S TEN DAYS OF DEAD TIME. NOW YOU'RE NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING. SO NOW THEY FOR YOU TO SIT THE TEST, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE US YOUR PERSONAL HISTORY STATEMENT. IF YOU DON'T, THEN YOU'RE INELIGIBLE TO SIT THE TEST. SO THE DAY OF WE'RE IMMEDIATELY GOING THROUGH THESE AND LOOKING AT AUTOMATIC DISQUALIFIERS AND REDUCING THAT LIST. SO OUT OF 100 WHAT DO YOU USUALLY GET THAT. SO WELL I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. THAT OTHER AGENCY TESTING WILL PROBABLY 40 PEOPLE SHOW UP. THAT WOULD BE MY. AND THEN WE HAVE A GOOD PASS RATE NOW WITH OUR NEW EXAMINATION. EXAMINATION. WE'RE NORMALLY 8,085% PASS RATE ON OUR TEST.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR PHYSICAL AGILITY, WHICH THAT'S ALMOST AT 100%. NOW THERE'S A ROAD TEST AND A FEW ROAD TESTS. YES, YES, GO A FEW MORE FALL OFF AND YEAH, YEAH. SO WE CAN'T BE MORE EFFICIENT IN HOW WE'RE ADMINISTERING THESE TESTS. I'M GOING THROUGH THE BACKGROUNDS AND I'M DOING IT. THIS IS ANCILLARY DUTIES. THIS THESE ARE PATROL OFFICERS STILL WORKING THE STREET, COMING IN ON THEIR DAYS OFF TO HELP GET THROUGH THESE LISTS. SO IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS STAFFING STUDY TO REALIZE THAT IT'S TAKING THINGS OFF PEOPLE TO AVOID THAT BURNOUT THAT A LOT OF US EXPERIENCE. SO IT'S JUST IT'S THAT'S WHAT'S PARAMOUNT TO ME IS CERTAINLY MY PEOPLE. YES, SIR. SO GET GET A LITTLE BIT EXCITED HERE BECAUSE SO THIS IS IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF OUR SHORT TERM PROJECTS, 25 TO 27. AND THIS THIS IS 25. AND SO WHAT.
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WHAT WHAT MIGHT WE SEE AS FAR AS. JUST KIND OF GENERAL TIME FRAME. BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT GET SOME FREE RENDERINGS. YES. AND THAT MIGHT BE JUST A GREAT WAY FOR US TO START ENVISIONING WHAT THIS COULD BE. BUT, I MEAN, LOOKING AT OUR TIMELINE HERE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD BE HAVING SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BOND. YES. SO LET'S WALK THROUGH THE TIMELINE HERE A LITTLE BIT. SO THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU'VE ALREADY JUMP STARTED IT, RIGHT? YOU'VE ALREADY CREATED THE 2025 BOND COMMITTEE. AND SO THEIR CHARGE IS TO AND YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN A NAME. SO THAT COMMITTEE IS GOING TO MEET, I THINK THE LAST WEEK OF FEBRUARY OR FIRST WEEK OF MARCH, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR FIRST MEETING. RIGHT. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TONIGHT WITH THAT BOND MONEY. WE'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, OKAY, HERE'S GENERALLY WHERE WE'RE AT WITH SHORT TERM, INTERMEDIATE OR MEDIUM TERM AND LONG TERM PROJECTS. HERE'S THE OTHER THINGS. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE'LL TALK ABOUT THESE NEW THINGS. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO THEN THE CHARGE TO THAT BOND COMMITTEE IS I'M DOING THIS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT I BELIEVE BY JULY THEY HAVE TO REPORT BACK. JULY 25TH, THEY HAVE TO REPORT TO COUNCIL ON THEIR FINDINGS. ARE THEY GOING TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD PUT OUT TO VOTE FOR THE VOTERS? IN NOVEMBER OF 25, A BOND FOR, FOR INSTANCE, POLICE, FIRE WHATEVER ELSE GETS ADDED TO IT. PARKS WHO KNOWS? YOU KNOW THEN IF COUNCIL AGREES THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD PASS AN ORDINANCE BY. I BELIEVE IT'S AUGUST AGAIN. I'M DOING THIS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT A DATE IN AUGUST WHERE YOU CAN SAY, YES, THIS IS GOING ON THE BALLOT, THEN IT WOULD GO ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER OF 25.RICHARD AND I HAVE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR FINANCE FINANCIAL ADVISORS ABOUT THE FACT THAT IF VOTERS APPROVE IN NOVEMBER. RICHARD, MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT WE WILL GENERALLY DO SOME SORT OF A OBLIGATION NOTE, A BAN, A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION SO THAT WE COULD JUMP START RIGHT AT THAT POINT. WE GET THE ENGINEERING GOING AND EVERYTHING IN 20 EARLY 2026 WITH ULTIMATELY GET THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTED, CUT THE RIBBON EARLY 27 AND TAKE OUT THE BOND ACTUALLY AT THE END, TAKE OUT THE BOND AT THE END SO WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO BORROW INSTEAD OF JUST BORROWING THE MONEY ALL UP FRONT. OKAY. VAMOS. IT'S A VERY AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE AND EVERYBODY'S TELLING ME THAT, BUT IT IS MANAGEABLE. SO IF I MAY, I WILL TELL YOU, AFTER WE HAD THIS MEETING IN OCTOBER, IT REINVIGORATED EVERYBODY AT THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING MYSELF. I'VE BEEN IN THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR 27, 28 YEARS. I NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD COME TO US HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. AND THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN THERE FIVE, TEN YEARS, IT'S THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THAT PLACE FOR THAT LONG.
BUT TO HEAR THIS, IT'S REALLY IT'S EXCITING. I CAN'T SAY HOW MUCH I'M EXCITED. I'M TRYING TO TAMPER IT AS MUCH AS I CAN, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. SO I'M I'M NOT APPREHENSIVE. I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED, AND I'LL DO EVERYTHING THAT I CAN TO HELP PROMOTE THIS IF I NEED TO. CHIEF, MAYBE SHARE WITH COUNCIL TOO. I PUT IT IN ONE OF THE R'S, BUT YOU AND I AND ASSISTANT CHIEF TIERNEY DID A TOUR. WE DID. SO MR. STALLINGS AT SEAGOVILLE, I'M INVITED US IN AND THEY JUST BUILT A NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT TOWARD THAT. IN FACT, IT'S THE COMPANY THAT'S COMING OUT TO DO THE OUR MEETING TOMORROW. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT REALLY IS.
IT'S YOU KNOW, I WALKED IN, THEY HAVE A TRAINING ROOM THAT'S PROBABLY THE ENTIRE SIZE OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THERE THAT I ENJOYED. AND I KNOW ASSISTANT CHIEF TIJERINA WERE BOTH IN THERE JUST THINKING TO OURSELVES, HOW DID HOW DO WE GET THIS? YOU KNOW, I DON'T IT'S JUST IT'S THE SMELL OF NEW. IT'S THE SMELL OF MARIJUANA. WHEN WE MAKE A BIG DRUG BUST IN CITY HALL OR OR WHEREVER ELSE, THE SMELL OF NEW. YEAH, YOU COULD HAVE SAID A NEW CAR, RIGHT. WELL, BUT IT WAS IT WAS STRATEGICALLY LAID OUT, THE CONTROL VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICERS AND THE SERGEANTS AND ADMINISTRATION, EVEN HOW THE PUBLIC INTERACTS. IT WAS ALL VERY STRATEGICALLY LAID OUT AND VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT. AND, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, I'LL JUST SAY IT. I MEAN, WE'RE IN SEAGOVILLE AND WE'RE LIKE, WOW, THEY HAVE THIS AND LOOK AT OURS. SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT, RIGHT? WE GOTTA WE GOTTA STEP IT UP A LITTLE BIT. BUT AND DAD, THE GOD I MEAN GOD BLESS MR. STALLINGS BUT BUT HE WAS ALSO A POLICE
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CHIEF. YES. AND I KNOW HE WANTED SOMETHING. WELL FOR THAT. ABSOLUTELY. AND HE DID. BUT HE HE WAS VERY UPFRONT WITH US. AND UNFORTUNATELY FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, BUT MR. STALLINGS PASSED AWAY LAST SATURDAY. BUT THE HE WAS VERY UPFRONT WITH US. THEY WERE VERY EFFICIENT AS THEY WENT THROUGH IT. AND I THINK IT WAS $8 MILLION, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE NUMBER THAT HE TOLD US. AND IT WAS VERY, VERY WELL DONE AND EVEN HAD SOME SPACE TO GROW AND EVERYTHING. AND SO THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT CERTAINLY GO A LONG WAY FOR US. DO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN JAIL THERE? THEY THEY DO. IT'S IN A SEPARATE FACILITY THOUGH. WE WOULD NEED THAT HERE. WE WOULD NOT NEED THAT HERE. NO, SIR. WE WOULD. WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A ONE CELL JUST FOR A TEMPORARY DETENTION. ANY QUESTIONS? THOUGHTS, COMMENTS? I'LL JUST JUST ONE JUST COMMENT IS THAT THEY DESERVE IT. AND ANY EXTRA WORK OR SACRIFICE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE TO GET THERE SOONER THAN LATER IS WORKING. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ONE JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE LIST AGAIN, THESE ARE INFORMATION THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE SINCE ON OCTOBER 29TH. BUT I'M GOING TO PUT DIRECTOR STEPHENSON ON THE SPOT HERE. BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE LAD NATURE PRESERVE MASTER PLAN.AND IT HAS A LITTLE PRICE TAG IN THE BACK HERE. 8.9 MILLION. BUT YOU KNOW GIVE OR TAKE. BUT BART, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING RELATIVE TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO GET THIS WRAPPED UP. I SENT YOU AN EMAIL I SENT TO THE COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS THE HALF ASSOCIATES WITH THE FINAL COMMENTS FOR OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I DID SPEAK TO THEM YESTERDAY, AND ALTHOUGH THEY DIDN'T COMMIT TO MY TIMELINE OF MAKING THE NEXT MARCH 4TH MEETING, THEY ARE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN. I THINK THEY SENSED THE URGENCY IN MY VOICE, I'M SURE, BUT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT GETTING THAT THAT DONE SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP OF IDENTIFYING FUNDING AND SPONSORSHIPS AND MONIES ELSEWHERE THAT HELP BRING THAT COST DOWN TO A MANAGEABLE. HAVE WE SEEN A BREAKDOWN OF THE COST? YES, WE DO HAVE IT. IT'S IN THE DOCUMENT. I'M GONNA TOUCH ON SOME OF IT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT YES. SAME WITH PARKS. WE ALSO HAVE THE DOG PARK MASTER PLAN THAT'S NOW BEEN ACCEPTED. CORRECT. IT'S GOT A $3 MILLION PRICE TAG FOR THE ENTIRE THING.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A PHASE ONE OF SOME MORE DEALS WITH 300,000. ANYTHING SPECIFIC YOU WANT TO SHARE ABOUT THAT. SO KIND OF SAME THING WE'RE NOW NOW IT'S BEEN ACCEPTED BY YOU GUYS.
WE ARE NOW IN THE MODE OF COLLECTING INFORMATION AND DATA ON GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES ABOUT GATHERING THAT SPECIFIC DATA.
ALSO, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE. AND THEN WE ROLLED OUT A SOFT ROLLOUT OF THE SEE MY LEGACY DONATION PROGRAM THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED, AND WE HAD OUR FIRST DONATION OF A PARK PITCH THIS PAST WEEK. SO NOW THAT WE SEE THAT IT WORKS, OUR ONLINE CREDIT CARD SYSTEM WORKS. WE'RE NOW GOING TO BE WORKING WITH ALEX AND HIS GROUP TO DO A HARD PUBLIC ABOUT THAT AVAILABILITY.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A PERFECT PLATFORM FOR BOTH THE DOG PARK FUNDRAISING EFFORTS AS WELL AS THE COMPANY AND ANY OTHER PROJECTS. ANY QUESTIONS ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE? WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE OF THOSE IN JUST A MINUTE HERE. LEAD SERVICE LINE INVENTORY HAS NOW BEEN COMPLETED. YES, YES, THE INVENTORY IS COMPLETE WHICH IS THE FIRST STEP. SO THIS IS A MULTI STEP PROCESS. THE INVENTORY WHICH IS US IN OUR TURNING IN OUR RECORDS OF WHAT WE KNOW WE HAVE AND TURNING THAT INTO THE TCU. AND THEN THE NEXT STEP WILL BE FIELD CONFIRMING WHAT THOSE LINES ARE ACTUALLY MADE OF. AND IF THEY QUALIFY AS, AS A REPLACEMENT OR NOT. AND THEN THE THIRD STEP WOULD BE ACTUALLY TAKING THAT REPLACEMENT PLAN INTO ACTION, WHICH WE WOULD HAVE MULTIPLE YEARS TO FINISH THAT. BUT EVERYTHING HAS A DEADLINE ESTABLISHED TO IT. AND DEADLINE NUMBER ONE IS ACHIEVED. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY ON THE RADAR, BUT AS A FEDERAL THING THAT WAS GONE DOWN. AND SO KIND OF GO BACK TO ANSWERING THE QUESTION, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF GOVERNMENT, OKAY.
IT'S THINGS LIKE THIS, THAT, THAT OVERSIGHT, EXTRA TESTING AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH REQUIRES MORE EMPLOYEES, MORE MORE EQUIPMENT, MORE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES INTO THE COST OF GOVERNMENT 100%. I MEAN, ANGEL'S TRACKING A WHOLE SERIES OF THINGS WITH THAT, WITH PUBLIC
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WORKS, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, NOT THIS SPECIFIC, BUT SOMETHING VERY RELATED TO THIS. YESTERDAY I HAD TO HAVE STAFF HELP ME BECAUSE WE HAD TO CERTIFY SOMETHING FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND THAT WAS JUST A NIGHTMARE TO GET IN TO DO THAT. AND IT'S JUST IT'S ALL OF THOSE ADDITIONAL STEPS AND THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO DO THAT. PLUS SIDE ON THIS, RIGHT. WE DID GET THE AWARD LETTER FROM TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, RIGHT? I'M GOING TO SAY WE WERE AWARDED ABOUT 9 MILLION I THINK IS WHAT THE NUMBER WAS ABOUT 9 MILLION. RIGHT. OKAY. WOW. I'M STILL WAVING THE YELLOW FLAG ON THAT ONE BECAUSE POLICIES ARE CHANGING IN WASHINGTON FASTER THAN I CAN KEEP UP WITH. AND SO LET'S SEE IF A IT'S STILL REQUIRED AND B TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE MONEY BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. BUT IT'S ALL THAT TRACKING STUFF. SO. I WANT TO PUT A PACKAGE TOGETHER, HAVE THE DATA TO SUPPORT IT AND JUSTIFY IT.THE TEAMWORK THAT IT TOOK TO ACCOMPLISH, JUST GETTING THE APPROVAL, THAT'S IT IS IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S WORTHY TO BE. I WAS TALKING WITH SOME OF THE TEAM MEMBERS. WE WERE TRYING TO BALLPARK ESTIMATE, AND ACTUALLY THE CONSULTANTS WORKING WITH US ON SENT ME A NOTE BACK, AND HE SAID THAT HE THINKS IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND AN EXPENSE OF 250 TO 300,000 JUST TO GET US TO THIS POINT. SO. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT'S IN PROGRESS. BUT I'M GOING TO DEFER TO YOU COMP PLAN, STEERING COMMITTEE PEOPLE WE DON'T HAVE. SO DON'T DON'T ASK US IF WE TAKE. I GUESS WE'RE ABOUT TO START THE SECOND STAGE OF THE SURVEYS GOING TO BE COMPLETED AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. I TALKED TO MATT TODAY, AND I THINK THEY WERE GETTING LIKE 500 CARDS TO HAND OUT TO EVERYBODY. I'M SENDING OUT 500 CARDS TO MY DISTRICT AND I'M TRYING TO GET THAT LAST PUSH. I THINK WE'RE GOING FOR 1000 RESPONSES. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. THAT'S COOL. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE JUST WE'LL START COMING TOGETHER AND START PUTTING THE NUTS AND BOLTS TOGETHER AND LOOKING AT THIS, THINKING, OKAY, NOW WE'VE GOT TO START MERGING THESE THINGS AND BRING THEM ALL TOGETHER, BUT IT'S COMING ALONG FINE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD TO THAT? WE MEET NEXT MONTH, FIRST OF THE MONTH, RIGHT. GOOD JOB. SO RIGHT. I THINK ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WITH ALL THE DECISIONS THAT YOU GUYS ARE MAKING AND THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU, THAT IT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, OVERALL VISION, RIGHT? AND CREATING THE SENSE OF PLACE, THE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR.
AND THAT'S WHY I KNOW I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF ABOUT REALLY TRYING TO PUSH THAT SURVEY RESPONSE, TO TRY TO GET THAT UP TO THE THOUSAND AT LEAST POINT IS A RESPECTABLE RESPONSE PERCENTAGE. THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN SHARE ON THAT? YEAH. SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO PULL THE WATER MASTER PLAN IN THAT CONVERSATION TOO. I'M HOPING TO ACHIEVE THOSE AT THE SAME TIME. THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE WE WILL REACH OUT TO THE VARIOUS ENGINEERING FIRMS THAT Y'ALL RECENTLY AWARDED. WE WILL DETERMINE THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRMS FOR THOSE TASKS, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN DONE SINCE THE 90S. AND IN WATER MASTER PLAN WAS LAST DONE IN 2019. THE 2019 VERSION IS ALREADY DUE FOR AN UPDATE I. THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN FROM THE 90S, AND WE SHOULD HAVE WORKED ON THAT A LONG TIME AGO. BUT THE SO THAT'S GOING TO THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE OUR OUR PLANNING AND OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT EFFORTS IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO GIVE US A STRATEGIC WAY TO MAP OUT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. OKAY. COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN, WHAT ALL THAT ENTAILS? IT'S GOING TO BE A COMBINATION OF DRAINAGE, FLOODPLAIN AREAS. THE RUNOFF FROM THESE PROPERTIES. AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LOTS OF EROSION ISSUES ALL OVER TOWN.
SO IT'S GOING TO IDENTIFY THOSE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. AND AGAIN, GIVE US GIVE US KIND OF A PATHWAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING THESE ISSUES THAT WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS ALL OVER. KIND OF GIVE US A MAP TO FOLLOW TO START MAKING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. THE WATER AND SEWER MASTER PLAN, A LOT OF THAT FOCUSES ON YOUR CITY WIDE PRESSURE PLANS, YOUR CITY WIDE CAPACITIES THAT WE CAN ALSO TAKE THAT DATA. WE CAN LOOP IT INTO OPPORTUNITY AREAS FOR COMMERCIAL GROWTH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY IN PLACE OR IF WE NEED TO REPLACE AND GET BIGGER WATER LINES AND SEWER LINES IN PLACE TO ACCEPT THAT GROWTH. SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD DATA THAT COMES WITH THOSE. AND EVEN LIKE THE LOOPING OF THE WATER LINES AND THAT KIND OF
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STUFF. SO I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE DRAINAGE. I'M HERE FOR A SECOND, BUT SO IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH TRADITIONAL DRAINAGE, MASTER PLAN WOULD BASICALLY DO AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS ARE AS WELL AS POTENTIAL MITIGATION ON WAYS THAT YOU CAN STORMWATER. YES, DRAINAGE. BUT I THINK DO WE HAVE IT COMING UP AT THE NEXT MEETING? THE INLAND PORT BRIEFING? YES, WE WILL HAVE THE INLAND TOWARD BRIEFING ON FEBRUARY 18TH. COMMISSIONER PRICE WITH DALLAS COUNTY SHOULD BE HERE TO PROVIDE US SOME UPDATES ON THAT PROJECT THAT HAD INCLUDED SOME OF THE STUDIES ALREADY THAT HAD COVERED SOME OF THE CONCERN AREAS FOR OUR FLOOD PLAIN AREAS WHERE THERE THERE IS A NEED FOR IMPROVEMENT AS FAR AS DRAINAGE, AND THAT THEY HAVE THEY'RE ALREADY SHARING SOME OF THAT DATA WITH US TO HELP US WITH SOME OTHER FLOOD STUDY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CONDUCT FOR THE HARRINGTON PARK. SO WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE USE OF THAT OTHER PROJECT DATA THAT WE'RE GETTING. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR GRANTS FOR GRANT TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT THEY HAVE DONE OVER THERE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING TO FIGURE OUT FOR THE FUTURE. AS WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND HOW WE OVERLAP THEM, IN ORDER TO LOOK AT WHAT'S BEST, TO MAKE USE OF OTHER PROJECTS AVAILABLE, AND SOME OF THE REGIONAL PARTNERS WORK AND STUDIES, BUT ALSO TO KEEP IN MIND AND TO SAY HERE THAT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS FUNDING AND WE'RE WE'RE PLANNING FOR THIS 15 YEARS, AS WE LOOK AT THE FUTURE, WE THINK ABOUT THOSE MASTER PLANS AS PLANS. SO WHAT THEY WILL PROBABLY THE OUTCOME OF THOSE PLANS WILL BE PROJECTS.SO WE GOT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE WILL BE OUT OF THOSE PLANS NEEDS, MORE NEEDS TO CONSIDER FOR THE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS AS WE GO INTO THE FUTURE. AND ALSO, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NOT ON THE LIST THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING AND WE'RE STUDYING THAT ARE POTENTIAL PROJECTS, LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS FOR TRAFFIC, LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STREET LIGHTS AND SAVINGS OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE STILL IN THE STUDY. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU MORE REALISTIC NUMBERS AND ASSESSMENTS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, BUT THOSE ARE POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT MIGHT COME UP AS A NEED IN THE FUTURE, OR A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF. SO THIS IS REALLY A BALLPARK, BUT I KNOW THIS IS JUST A START. FOR MORE NEEDS, WE'RE GOING TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THOSE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON EXACTLY WHAT SHAHAD SAYS. THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE NEED FROM COUNCIL IS PRIORITIZATION BECAUSE THE BANDWIDTH IS LIMITED. SO YOU GUYS REALLY HAVE TO TELL US WHAT ARE YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITIES, RIGHT? I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO AN EXERCISE WITH ME HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, SO WE CAN GET SOME OF THAT DOWN IN THERE. I'M SORRY. NO, IT'S ALL RIGHT. I WAS AT A EARLY MEETING ISSUE WITH COMMISSIONER PRICE AND ALL THE ENGINEERS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE CITY MANAGER WAS THERE AS WELL. AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE MENTIONED TO ME WHILE WE WERE SITTING THERE IS THAT THERE'S AREAS OF AND I'LL SAY SPECIFICALLY GREENBRIER, THAT WHEN THE BRIDGES FLOOD, YOU CAN'T GET OUT AND EMERGENCY SERVICES CAN'T GET IN. SO YOU'RE STRANDED A LITTLE BIT. AND I SAID, SO WHERE DO YOU LIVE? I THINK HE DESCRIBED RIGHT ALONGSIDE. YEAH RIGHT THERE. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THEY'RE REACHING OUT TO, EVEN THOSE ISSUES TO TRY TO HELP TOWNS GET THOSE RESOLVED. AND WE'RE AT THE TAIL END OF THAT, OF THAT. I DON'T THINK IT GOES BEYOND DUNCANVILLE ON THE ON THE WEST SIDE, CEDARVILLE JUST A LITTLE BIT CEDAR. IT'S REALLY THE DUNCANVILLE, CEDAR HILL ON THE WEST SIDE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, BECAUSE THE THING THAT'S STILL RUNNING THROUGH MY MIND IS, WHAT ELSE DO WE NOT KNOW ABOUT? AND SO WHEN I HEAR TRAFFIC AND THAT STUFF AND THAT. THERE'S IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO POP UP, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF IT TONIGHT. BUT THERE'S, THERE ARE SO MANY PROJECTS AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING. EVERY ONE OF THESE PLANS. AND WE'RE GOING TO I'LL SHOW YOU WHEN WE GET TO THE NATURE PRESERVE MASTER PLAN. THERE'S SO MANY SPECIFIC PROJECTS UNDER THAT CATEGORY. RIGHT. BUT IT'S THAT WAY FOR EACH OF THESE PLANTS. BUT THAT'S GOOD. WE KNOW. AND THEN WE CAN PLAN FOR IT. AND WE CAN LOOK FOR THE ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF REVENUE OR INSTEAD OF BEING BLINDSIDED BY IT. OKAY, THE OTHER TWO FUTURE REQUESTS, BART, THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, TRAILS MASTER PLAN, MAYBE JUST KIND OF SHARE WITH COUNCIL OUR CONVERSATION. YEAH, OUR CURRENT BART MASTER PLAN HAS BEEN IN TWO 2017 BY MOST GRANT CRITERIA. THEY REQUIRE A MASTER PLAN THAT IS LESS THAN TEN YEARS OLD. SO
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AS YOU CAN TELL THAT WE'RE COMING UP ON A TEN YEAR IN 2027. SO WE'LL BE SEEKING SOME FUNDING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET PROCESS TO DO REDO OUR PARK MASTER PLAN AND ALSO ADD A TRAIL MASTER PLAN. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO NOT HAVE CURRENTLY. IT WAS THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WAS ON OUR LAST PARK MASTER PLAN THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T ADDRESSED. WELL, I'LL SAY SO. I THINK HAVING ADDRESSING THAT THROUGH A PLAN THAT WE CAN ALL AFFORD AND COME TOGETHER AND AGREE UPON AS TO HOW WE WANT TO ADDRESS TRAILS IN DUNCANVILLE, WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN HELPING US MOVE DOWN THE ROAD AND GETTING THOSE PROJECTS GOING. SO HOW MUCH OF THAT CONNECTS IN WITH THE DOCUMENT YOU JUST SENT OUT TO US? SOME, YES. NOT ALL BECAUSE I MEAN, MARK, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, TRAILS MASTER PLANS WILL LIKE FOR INSTANCE, TAKE ALL 17 PARKS AND TRY TO CONNECT THEM. SO WHAT THAT DID CONNECT ALL 17 RIGHT. TRYING TO CONNECT.YOU'RE TRYING TO CONNECT YOUR PARKS TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, TO YOUR SCHOOLS, TO YOUR BUSINESS AREAS, KIND OF TRYING TO LINK ALL OF YOUR KEY LIVABLE SPACES AND BUSINESS SPACES SO PEOPLE HAVE ULTERIOR ALTERNATIVE MOTIVES OF GETTING TO THOSE SPACES WITHOUT HAVING A CAR. SO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS SPECIFIC TO OUR PARK TRAILS, NEW AND PROPOSED, CORRECT. AND THE OTHER TRAIL IN THE DOCUMENT WE SIGNED WAS, IS ONE THAT INTERCONNECTS THE THREE CITIES.
RIGHT NOW, THERE IS AN OVERALL ARCHING DFW PLAN CALLED THE VELO. THAT'S DONE THROUGH THE COG, AND WE ARE A PART OF THAT. IN FACT, JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, WE DID A SPECIFIC ADDITION TO THE VELO WEB FOR THE BEST SOUTHWEST AREA. ALL THE FOUR CITIES GOT TOGETHER WITH DALLAS COUNTY. DALLAS COUNTY FUNDED IT, AND WE IDENTIFIED TRAIL LINKAGES TO LINK UP OUR COMMUNITIES, AS WELL AS TO LINK COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SURROUNDING US SPECIFICALLY. DOES THIS INCLUDE BIKE LANES, THEN BIKE PATHS? HIKE AND BIKE? OKAY, SO WE DID A MASTER PLAN 2016 OR SO FOR THE BIKE. WE HAVE A WE DID ONE IN HOUSE FOR THE PURPOSES OF APPLYING FOR A GRANT THAT WE DID NOT GET, BUT WE DID CREATE AN IN HOUSE. WE CALL IT A BIKE. WHAT? WE DIDN'T CALL IT A MASTER PLAN, BUT IT WAS LIKE A BIKE PLAN. OKAY, THAT WE DID IN HOUSE. AGAIN, WE DIDN'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT ON IT.
IT WAS SOMETHING REALLY JUST TO APPLY FOR THAT GRANT THAT WE TRIED TO GET. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE HEARD ABOUT FOR TEN YEARS. YEAH, WE DO HAVE TALKS ABOUT IT. AND I GUESS THIS IS KIND OF COMING IN WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S DOING WITH THE SMART STREETS AND THE IT'S PRIMARILY ON STREET ON STREET BIKE LANES. BUT I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION. AND TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU WERE JUST SAYING, COUNCILMEMBER BAKER, I DIDN'T LIST IT HERE, BUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE NOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THEN IS COUNCILS ADOPTED THE COMPLETE STREETS POLICY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THAT MEETING ON OCTOBER 29TH. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. SO WE'VE ADOPTED THAT. I'LL SHARE WITH YOU. I ACTUALLY HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DALLAS MOBILITY COALITION THAT ACTUALLY WAS VERY IMPRESSED THAT YOU HAVE ADOPTED A COMPLETE STREETS POLICY THAT, AGAIN, AT LEAST AS ROADS ARE BEING LOOKED AT, THAT AT LEAST CONSIDERATION IS BEING GIVEN TO MAKING IT A COMPLETE STREET. DECIDED ON ANY STREETS THUS FAR SINCE THEN. WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT THROUGH. REALLY, THE BUDGET PROCESS? YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT THAT FAR ALONG YET.
I MEAN, WE'RE JUST STARTING THAT. I'M LOOKING AT THAT. BUT SO WE'RE STARTING WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT THE BUDGETING PROCESS. BUT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS LIKE GIVEN THAT, I MEAN, THE, THE, THE ONE THAT WE, WE KNOW THAT MIGHT HAVE A POTENTIAL IS WE KNOW THAT THE ONE THAT WE'RE SEEKING SOME GRANT SUPPORT WITH, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE BOND BOND PROJECTS LIKE THE MAIN STREET AND CAMP WISDOM OR THOSE ARE RECONSTRUCTIONS. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IT HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF RECONSTRUCTION WHERE WHERE IT'S THAT STREET IS READY TO GET RECONSTRUCTED, THEN THAT, THEN WE CAN EVALUATE IT FOR A COMPLETE STREET POLICY. SO SOME OF THOSE POTENTIALLY CAN BE THE CONTINUING CONTINUATION OF CEDAR RIDGE OR THE, THE CAMP WISDOM IN MAIN THAT WE JUST SUBMITTED FOR GRANT APPLICATIONS FOR WITH COG. HOPEFULLY WE GET LUCKY ON THOSE OR ONE OF THEM AND THAT CAN BE ONE OF THE CANDIDATES WE CAN CONSIDER. BUT AS FAR AS ANOTHER CITY PROJECT, WE'RE JUST AND THEN STREETS AND TRAFFIC AS WE TALKED HERE, IS LIKE ANOTHER BIG DISCUSSION AS WE'RE LOOKING AT BUDGET NOW, WE NEED TO GIVE IT A CLOSER LOOK AT, GIVEN THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET UPDATED DATA FOR CONDITION BASED ON ASSESSMENTS. AND THAT'S COMING AROUND MARCH TIME FRAME. SO WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO PRESENT THAT ONCE ONCE THAT'S IN AND SHARE IT WITH YOU ALL BASED ON THE UPDATED NEEDS.
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WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH NEEDS FOR STREETS TO GALLOWAY. BASED ON THAT, MAYBE IT CAN BE POTENTIAL PROJECTS FOR THE BONDING. WE TO THINK ABOUT. SO I KNOW DANIEL DALE WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT CONTINUING THAT BIKE TRAIL. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TRY TO KEEP THAT IN THE CONVERSATION AS WELL. THANK YOU. SOMETHING ELSE WE HAVE I MENTIONED THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, THAT YOU JUST DID. IT IS WE NOW HAVE A CULTURAL DISTRICT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER FACTOR AS WE THINK ABOUT THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. RIGHT. SO AND I DON'T WANT A SLIGHT FINANCE. FINANCE HAS BEEN SITTING HERE AWFUL QUIET. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE. ANY THOUGHTS I MEAN YOU GUYS DON'T NECESSARILY DO QUOTE UNQUOTE OTHER THAN MANAGING ALL OF THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS, BUT YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY PUTTING SHOVELS IN THE GROUND, BUT YOU GUYS ON THE SPOT. SO. JUST WRITE THE CHECK, RICHARD. YEAH, EXACTLY. I MEAN, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. NOT NOT MUCH ELSE TO REPORT. THAT IS OBVIOUSLY WE TIE IN TO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED TODAY. SO CAN WE BRAG ABOUT HOW THEY COMPLETED. BUT.OH YES. WALKING THE FLOOR IS YOURS. YEAH. I WAS I HAD A MEETING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER GOODWIN EARLIER AND I WAS MENTIONING THAT I SAID IT WAS FIVE AUDITS, BUT THEN I WAS CORRECTED. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE WHAT, 6 OR 7? WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY IN THE EXECUTIVE TEAM. THEY'VE DONE SOME RIDICULOUS NUMBER OF AUDITS IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
SIX AUDITS, SEVEN AUDITS. THEY'VE COMPLETED, WHATEVER IT IS. THAT IS RIDICULOUS. AMAZING.
SO BUT THEY GOT US CAUGHT UP THE INDEPENDENT AUDIT THE 22 AUDIT FOR 23 FINISHING UP THE CURRENT 24. THERE WAS A POLICE AUDIT THAT WE GOT LIKE 24 HOURS NOTICE NEEDED TO BE DONE. AND YOU KNOW THEN THERE WERE A FEW OTHERS. SO YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. JUST. THE FINANCE TEAM IS HITTING HOME RUNS. SO. ALL RIGHT. REMEMBER WHEN I SAID I NEED YOU GUYS TO PRIORITIZE FOR US. WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE, WHAT WE SHOULD BE WORKING ON. SO WE PUT YOU GUYS THROUGH THIS BEFORE. BUT IF YOU SCAN THE QR CODE AND LOG IN FOR US SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME, HAVE YOU GUYS VOTE AND KIND OF SHARE WITH US. AND IF COUNCIL'S OKAY WITH IT, I'M OKAY WITH EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM. DOING IT JUST KIND OF GIVES US THIS ISN'T A COUNCIL VOTE. AS THE ATTORNEY ALWAYS SAYS, THEY'RE NOT TAKING ACTION. SO IT'S ALMOST BETTER IF OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ROOM ALSO PARTICIPATE SO THAT THERE'S MORE THAN SEVEN VOTES. BUT WE USE THIS. WE USE THIS TO REALLY KIND OF GIVE US SOME GENERAL DIRECTION ON ANYTHING. AND AS WE BRING THESE THINGS TO YOU, AND AGAIN, THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO REALLY SO THAT WE DON'T BRING YOU A BUDGET, THAT YOU ALL SAY WHAT YOU KNOW, WHERE ELSE WERE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GENERALLY THE FISH ARE SWIMMING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. SO, SO. THERE'S A FEW MORE PEOPLE SCANNING THE QR CODE BEFORE I.
VOTE ON THE PUBLIC WORKS. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE READY? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT, SO HYPOTHETICALLY, IF WE DO A BOND IN 2025, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IN IT? THIS SHOULD BE A RANKING WHERE YOU'RE MOVING UP AND DOWN. THERE'S SEVEN ITEMS ON HERE. AND AGAIN I KNOW THERE'S ONLY SEVEN ITEMS ON HERE. BUT AGAIN THIS IS JUST TO GIVE US GENERAL DIRECTION. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO RANK THESE ON HOW YOU WOULD HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM. PLEASE FIRE WHATEVER. MOVE THE LITTLE LINES UP AND DOWN. IT'S I THINK IT'S SMITH'S AND WHATEVER IT IS, THEY'RE UP TOP. YEAH. OKAY. I'LL CHANGE MY MAN. PARKS, FIRE PARKS. POINTING OUT SO FAR THIS THING IS SENSITIVE I KEEP. THERE IT IS. IT'S VERY SENSITIVE. HOW MANY TIMES, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE WATCHING US? SITTING DOWN, MY FRIENDS. JUST SIT. IN PLACE. THANK YOU. MY. POLICE BUILDING AND POLICE BUILDING
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CAME OUT STRONG WHEN WE DID THIS IN OCTOBER 29TH. AGAIN, IT LOOKS TO BE VERY STRONG. SERVICE CENTER, THIRD FIRE STATION. THESE HAVE BEEN THE TOP KIND OF THREE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS COULDN'T NECESSARILY GO INTO THEM. PARKS IMPROVEMENTS, SLIDE TRAIL, DOG PARK, DIFFERENT OPTIONS THERE A FEW MORE MINUTES. FIRST GO. JESUS. THEY KEPT WELL THEY KEPT MOVING. YEAH, YEAH THEY DO MOVE AS YOU GO. INTO VERY SENSITIVE. SENSITIVE. ANY THOUGHTS ANYBODY WANTS TO SHARE I DON'T I GUESS I'M NOT REALLY SURPRISED BY A LOT OF THESE OTHER THAN I THOUGHT THE DOG PARK MIGHT BE A LITTLE HIGHER, TO BE HONEST, BUT ANY THOUGHTS ANYBODY WANTS TO SHARE? POLICE BUILDINGS? YEAH, I'LL SHARE SOME ABOUT THE DOG PARK AND. SORRY, BART, BUT BUT YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED WE DO PHASE ONE FOR $300,000. OKAY. THAT COULD BE A ONE TIME PROJECT. OFF THE OFF THE FUND VERSUS GOING INTO A BOND. ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD EASILY BE SPREAD OUT OVER SEVERAL YEARS. AND THEN PUTTING IT IN A BOND MAKES SENSE. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CALL IT A NEED. OR ARE YOU GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE BREAKDOWN ON LAND. IT'S ONE OF THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S NOT A NEED. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE BROKEN OUT OVER TIME. ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS TONIGHT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE REALLY ESSENTIALLY THIS IS A WE'RE CHECKING IN WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE WITH THESE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT OUR TOP THREE ARE STILL OUR TOP THREE IN OUR SHORT TIME ITEMS. BUT IS EVERYBODY DONE WITH THIS ONE. MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE OF THE CURRENT SHORT TERM PROJECTS ASKING YOU TO RANK AGAIN PRIORITIES SERVICE CENTERS IN HERE AGAIN, FIRE STATION TWO IS ADDED. FIRE STATION THREE. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT RELATIVE TO A BOND. THIS IS JUST IN GENERAL PRIORITIZATION OF THE SHORT TERM PROJECTS. AM I IN HERE? WATER MASTER PLAN, FIELDHOUSE IMPROVEMENTS HARRINGTON PARK PHASE ONE AND THREE. WHAT DO YOU THINK IN YOUR OPINION, ARE SOME OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES OF THIS LIST OF EIGHT DIFFERENT ITEMS, NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO A BOND, JUST IN TERMS OF THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE.CHIEF CARNELIAN CHASE I MEAN, YOU GUYS NEED TO GET ON THE PHONE WITH SOME FIREFIGHTERS, GET THEM LOGGED IN HERE. AND. SUPPORTING THAT WINE BAG OVER THERE, I WAS GETTING READY TO SAY, DO YOU HAVE EVERY POLICE OFFICER VOTING? OH. SERVICE CENTER. JUST HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK THE SERVICE CENTER, I SENT IT TO THE ON CALL CREW. SERVICE CENTER, POLICE BUILDING, ARMY. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT TONIGHT, PER SE. AND MATT AND SHAHAD HELP ME OUT WITH NUMBERS HERE, BUT AM I? I SEE IT'S NUMBER THREE ON THIS LIST HERE WITH TALKED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD BUT SLOWING IT DOWN BECAUSE OF THE GRANT. WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT TONIGHT HERE. BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT'S AT. I KNOW ANGEL MENTIONED IT EARLIER. WE HAVE. RIGHT. BUT WHAT'S THE TIMELINE.
SOMEBODY HELP ME OUT WITH TIMELINE ON THAT AGAIN SEPTEMBER I BELIEVE BEFORE WE EVEN KNOW SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER. WHETHER OR NOT WE GET THE ESSENTIALLY THE AWARDS. YEAH FORGIVABLE LOAN.
PRELIMINARY APPLICATION WITH THE APPLICATION. AND AGAIN, THE REASON THAT WE'RE DOING THAT ROUTE IS BECAUSE IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE HALF OR MORE OF A FORGIVABLE LOAN. SO REALLY DRIVING DOWN THE COST FOR THE TAXPAYERS, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. RELATIVE TO THAT, THERE IS A TRADE OFF BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE ARE LOSING WATER.
OBVIOUSLY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SATELLITE LEAK DETECTION JUST AT THE MOST RECENT, THE MOST RECENT MEETING. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE PUBLIC THAT'S LISTENING THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT, BECAUSE WE REALLY HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT MUCH TONIGHT. SO ANY THOUGHTS?
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COMMENTS? YES, SIR. I'D LIKE TO FIRST TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, WE TALKED ABOUT RECRUITING.RETENTION IS TAKING CARE OF OUR FOLKS. SO WE GOT TO KEEP THEM. AND THEN THE THIRD NUMBER THREE THERE THE ARMY, IF WE CAN GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF, GET THE GRANT, FIND OUT WHERE OUR WATER IS LEAKING. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE THE MONEY THERE TO DO NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE AND THEN ON DOWN THE LIST. SO MY THOUGHTS. GOOD THOUGHTS. VERY GOOD. MAKES SENSE. JUST TO POINT OUT IF IT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH HOW I RANKED IT. BUT HARRINGTON PARK PROJECT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT SOMETHING IS ALREADY PROMISED AND SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. I MEAN, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I MEAN, IT'S NOT ENOUGH, BUT AS WELL AS THE SERVICE CENTER, YEAH, THE SERVICE CENTER AS WELL. YEAH, IT'S ORIGINAL BOND, RIGHT? AND THEN PHASE TWO. RIGHT. I MEAN, THERE'S SOMEBODY I USED TO WORK WITH THAT ALWAYS USED THE TERMINOLOGY THAT I ALWAYS HAVE KIND OF ADOPTED. IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT, FEATURE IT. PHASE TWO I CAN'T FIX IT. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT RIGHT NOW. SO FEATURE WE CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW. BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE OPTIONS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO DO IT. SO. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? ALL RIGHT. SOME ITEMS THAT WE HAVE NOT REALLY DISCUSSED. THE LAD NATURE PRESERVE HERE $8.99 MILLION. AND THIS IS KIND OF THE BREAKDOWN. THIS IS THE HIGH LEVEL BREAKDOWN. THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAIL IN THE ACTUAL MASTER PLAN, BUT MOBILIZATION, THE SWIFT, THE GENERAL STUFF, 475,000 TO GET STARTED. DEMOLITION EMBARKED. I MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEMOLITION, BUT IT WAS LABELED DEMOLITION 105,000. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WAS? I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT IS. SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. GRADING. I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. I'M SORRY. GRADING EARTHWORK 300,000. HARDSCAPE FOR VEHICLES, 470. PEDESTRIAN HARDSCAPE. 2 MILLION. I'M ASSUMING THAT MUST BE TRAILS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF THROUGHOUT. PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES, 725,000IN NATURE CENTER, 2 MILLION. LANDSCAPING 473. SITE AMENITIES 768,000 AND SIGNAGE 180,000.
MAKE UP THAT TOTAL OF 8.9 MILLION. SO YOU'LL SEE ALL OF THAT ONE IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY.
WHEN YOU GET THE FINAL VERSION THERE, OR EVEN THE DRAFT VERSION THAT'S ALL DETAILED IN THE BACK.
WHEN YOU REALLY START GOING THROUGH THE MASTER PLAN DOCUMENT. BUT THOSE ARE THE BREAKDOWNS. ANY THOUGHTS? LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SPREAD OUT OVER SEVERAL YEARS AND THAT WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WHATEVER WE'RE PUTTING INTO THIS THAT WE HAVE. POTENTIALLY EVERYTHING BEING MATCHED WITH THE CITY INVESTMENTS, STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN, JUST IN CASE WE GET NO RESPONSE WITH, YES, I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF I CAN FIND REAL QUICK THAT DEMOLITION WORK. BUT WHAT THAT WAS. BUT ANYWAY, IT'S IN THERE. I KNOW WHAT IT IS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS? I WOULD JUST ADD I THINK THE, THE PATHS AND THE AND THE, THE LANDSCAPE HARDSCAPE, PROBABLY THE BEST THINGS TO GET GOING FIRST BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS. I GUESS WITH THE PROPERTY BEING TORN UP AND PEOPLE DRIVING ON THERE AND. SO THAT'S IF THERE'S MATCHING, IT'S GOING TO BE DONE WITH THAT. AND I KNOW FROM A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH ONE OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WAS VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING SOMETHING THAT WAS, I FORGET THE EXACT WORD THAT WAS USED, BUT ESSENTIALLY SOMETHING THAT WAS VISIBLE, TOUCHABLE TO REALLY SEE SOMETHING, RIGHT? AS TO START ON ON WHAT THE FUTURE COULD LOOK LIKE, EVEN IF EVERYTHING'S NOT DONE ALL AT ONCE. SO PARK ANYTHING ELSE TO SHARE ON THAT. NO, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE. WE PUT SOME BARRIERS AROUND LAST WEEK ON ALL THE CURB CUTS ALONG DANIEL DALE. AND THEN ALSO WE. PUT SOME POSTED CABLE UP AROUND THE EROSION AREA WHERE THE BEND GOT SOME SIGNIFICANT EROSION FROM THE LAST RAIN EVENT. AND IT'S A BIG IT'S SOME BARRIERS THAT KEEP PEOPLE FROM DRIVING IN THAT AREA AND COMPACTING SOILS FURTHER THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CREEK ON THE SANTA FE, SOUTH SIDE, SOUTH SOUTH SIDE OF THE CREEK.
YEAH. AND YOU DECIDED THAT I THINK WITH THE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WERE WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS, THAT THERE WASN'T GOING TO NEED TO BE REALLY AN EXTENSIVE POSTING CABLE ON DANIEL DALE. IT
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COULD BE DONE WITH NATURAL ROCK FEATURES AND TREES AND OTHER THINGS. SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO LOOK AT CABLE. I THINK ULTIMATELY WITH THE MASTER PLAN, YES, THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN SOMETHING MORE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND JUST POSTING. YES. THANK YOU. THIS THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE DRAFT PAGE SEVEN ARE THESE NEXT COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH THAT LIST THE DETAILS OF THE LAD AND THE DOG PARK AND THAT JUST SO YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU AS WELL. SO QUESTION TIME HERE AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THINGS IN ONE OF THESE THREE BUCKETS, AND I REALIZE IT CAN BE SPREAD OVER DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE CHALLENGING. BUT LET'S SAY WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE. LET'S JUST SAY THAT THAT BIG FIRST PUSH MAYBE THE NATURE CENTER. WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT. KEEP IN MIND BANDWIDTH. KEEP IN MIND THOSE TAX DAYS. THOSE ARE ALL FACTORS THAT HAVE GOT TO GO IN HERE.SO THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY. THAT WAS $2 MILLION RIGHT. SO IF I NEED EVEN IF I EVEN IF IT'S ONE AND A HALF JUST SAY 1.6 JUST FOR SIMPLE MATH. IF I NEED 800,000, ARE YOU WILLING TO INCREASE TWO PROPERTY TAXES? $0.02 TO DO THAT? 2 MILLION UNBALANCE. THAT'S AN OPTION. TWO THOSE ARE ALL THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. LOTS OF FUN. ALL THIS TONIGHT. NO NO NO NO. MY GOAL IS TO HAVE YOU OUT OF HERE BY 8:00 TONIGHT. SO. SO YEAH, I CAN SAY NO NO NO NO, NO. THIS IS JUST TO GIVE US SOME DIRECTION AGAIN. SO. ALL RIGHT EVERYBODY GOOD ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. HOW SHOULD WE IMPLEMENT THE LAND MASTER PLAN. SO I'M GIVING YOU FOUR OPTIONS HERE BECAUSE AGAIN THIS IS GOING TO TELL ME KIND OF STRATEGY ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT IT.
THE FIRST ONE YES. FULL SPEED AHEAD. JUST DO IT. JUST IMPLEMENT IT. THE SECOND ONE.
YES. AS GRANTS OR FUNDRAISING ALLOW CONTINGENT ON THAT, ON THAT REVENUE COMING IN TO HELP COVER THOSE. YES. BUT DO IT IN SMALL PHASES, EVEN IF IT INCREASES THE TAX RATES OR. NO, I'M NOT READY. I NEED MORE INFORMATION. NOTHING SCIENTIFIC AT ALL ABOUT THESE. AND YOU GUYS ARE OBVIOUSLY JUST FOR SO HAGER DOESN'T FUSS AT ME. THERE'S NO LEGALLY BINDING VOTE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S MORGAN COUNCIL VOTING AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW COUNCIL IS VOTING. SO.
SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, AS GRANTS OR FUNDRAISING ALLOW, IT LOOKS LIKE IS SUBSTANTIAL HERE. AND THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT WE JUST HAD. SO ALL RIGHT. GOOD OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE DOG PARK $2.9 MILLION. SO ENTRY PERIMETER 1.2 MILLION. WATER DOG PARK PARK. SO WATER DOG PARK. THOSE ARE LIKE LITTLE SPLASH POOLS. THE DOGS. WATER OBSTACLES. OKAY. OPEN SPACE 326,000. THEN TWO DIFFERENT PARKS, RIGHT. ONE FOR SMALL DOGS, ONE FOR LARGE DOGS, 278 389,000. AND THEN THE OPTIONAL PHASE WAS 269,000. FOR THAT FIRST PHASE, JUST TO DO THE HARDSCAPING THE FENCING AND SIGNAGE IN TERMS OF THE DOG PARK. SO I'M GONNA JUMP RIGHT IN HERE AGAIN. WHICH BUCKET? WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THIS? AND AGAIN, THIS COULD BE A PHASED APPROACH ALSO. BUT WHY DON'T WE SAY WHAT IS YOUR WHERE ARE YOU AT WITH THIS IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU THINK THIS THING SHOULD REALLY BE COMPLETED, WHOLE THING, PHASE ONE. YOU'RE RIGHT, WE COULD ALWAYS ADVANCE THAT. BUT I WANT TO KNOW. OVERALL PROJECT, WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO CUT THE RIBBON AND THE WHOLE THING BE DONE? SO I GUESS QUESTION I KNOW, JOE, YOU KNOW. SO AT WHAT POINT WILL BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY PEOPLE, YOU CAN START BRINGING YOUR DOGS IN, RIGHT? IS THAT JUST AT THE END OF PHASE ONE WHEN WE GET THE PERIMETER INTO PHASE ONE AND THEN OKAY, PHASE ONE, WE HAVE TWO AREAS A DOG, A SMALL DOG, A LARGE DOG, AND A WALKING PATH FROM THE EXISTING PARKING LOT AND ROTARY PARK. SO THAT'S EVEN BEFORE WE EVEN DO PARKING OR UTILITIES, WE HAVE TO HAVE UTILITIES. JUST THE WATER FOR PROVIDING WATER FOR THE DOGS.
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GOOD QUESTIONS. JUST SO EVERYBODY HAS A NOTE TOO. I WAS RECENTLY HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE CEDAR HILL CITY MANAGER. THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR OWN DOG PARK OVER BY THE TRI-CITY ANIMAL SHELTER. SO YEAH, SO CAN I CHANGE MY ANSWER? YEAH. SO LET THE ONE BE. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. SO I'VE GOT A FEW IDEAS FOR THIS SINCE WE'RE ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT ONE I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A TOWN HALL WHERE WE CAN INVITE PEOPLE TO BECOME FRIENDS OF THE DOG PARK AND GET THEM ALL RILED UP WHILE WE'RE INTRODUCING THE BE MY LEGACY, SEE MY LEGACY, SEE MY LEGACY. I KEEP GETTING THAT WRONG BECAUSE THAT RIGHT THERE WILL GET PEOPLE TO START DONATING AND WHATNOT. AND I KNOW SOMEBODY THAT OWNS A SIGN COMPANY, SO THEY'RE GOING TO DONATE THE SIGNS AND THEN FUNDRAISE, START FUNDRAISING AND THE SPONSOR LETTERS, BECAUSE I THINK IT BEING IN LAST PLACE IS A GREAT PLACE TO BE, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK THAT MUCH HARDER. THERE YOU GO. WHICH IS FINE ■WITH ME. SO THERE YOU GO. THAT'S AWESOME. SAME QUESTION THERE AGAIN. I MEAN, WE'VE KIND OF ALLUDED TO THIS, BUT AGAIN, HOW DO YOU WANT TO IMPLEMENT THIS DOG PARK. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE PHASES. BUT FIRST ANSWER YES, FULL SPEED AHEAD AS GRANTS ARE FUNDRAISING ALLOW PHASES EVEN IF SMALL TAX INCREASES OR NO NOT READY ANY MORE INFORMATION. SO. RICHARD, YOU SHOULD BE OPPRESSIVE TO I MEAN, FOR THE MOST PART WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS THEY'RE LEAVING THE TAX RATE ALONE AND GOING FOR THE ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF REVENUE. RIGHT. SO THAT WORKED TO SHOW THEM THE OTHER CHART FIRST. SO. THAT'S SAM WITH THE.ALL RIGHT. ANOTHER ONE, CHAD WAS ALLUDING TO THIS. THERE'S A SERIES OF DIFFERENT THINGS RELATIVE TO STREETS THAT WERE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT. THIS WAS ON A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WAS CARRIED OVER FROM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. SMART CITY TRAFFIC CONTROL SOLUTIONS. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, ACTUALLY, AT THAT APRIL MEETING IN TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY FOR REAL TIME TRAFFIC MONITORING AS WELL AS CITY STREET LIGHTS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE EXPLORING.
WE'RE DOING SOME INTERNAL RESEARCH, AS CHAD WAS SAYING, IN TERMS OF POSSIBLY PURCHASING ALL OF THE CITY STREET LIGHTS, BECAUSE THE COST OF THE MONTHLY UTILITY WOULD BE PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR VERSUS WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING. SO WE'RE WE'RE DOING OUR INTERNAL TYPE STUFF RIGHT NOW. BEFORE WE BRING YOU MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, THERE'S ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED ON SOME OF THESE PRIOR PLANS. CHERRY CENTER, PHASE TWO, WISHING STAR I DON'T I DON'T EVEN KNOW MATT OR ALL OF THESE ARE AT A CLUE WHERE ALL THREE OKAY STREETS AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. THIS IS ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING ON A GRANT, SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADA IMPROVEMENTS, AND SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. YES, THAT'S OREO, NOT OHIO. YEAH, MAYBE. YES, MAYBE. THAT'S PROBABLY. YEAH. AND THEN SOME OF THE DRAINAGE THINGS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED ON PRIOR CIP PLANS, THERE WAS A FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT WAS DONE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THIS STUFF HAS COME OUT OF. SO JUST MOVING ALONG HERE, WE'RE GOING TO WRAP UP HERE PRETTY SOON. SO YOUR PRIORITY PROJECT FROM THIS LIST. I WANT TO KNOW AGAIN, NOT NECESSARILY RELATIVE TO BONDING OR ANYTHING ELSE. NOW THAT YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AND WE'VE EXPOSED YOU TO A FEW MORE THINGS, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BRINGING YOU ESSENTIALLY PROJECTS AND THAT WE'RE ADVANCING THE INITIATIVES THAT YOU WANT TO SEE. SO THE ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS, WE'RE CONTINUING TO IDENTIFY, SOME OF THOSE THERE AND OTHERS. YEAH, THERE'S SOME BASICALLY UNAPPROVED EASEMENTS THAT IF WE DID SOMETHING THAT THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE STREET PROBLEMS THAT I KNOW FAIRMEADOWS HAS, AND I KNOW SOME AREAS HAVE AS WELL. WELL, THE BIKE LANES, THE ONE THAT THAT PLAN WAS THE ONE THAT MARK REFERRED TO EARLIER. IT'S NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH PART OF THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
THAT WOULD BE A FUTURE PLAN. HE'S WELL, MARK MENTIONED A PLAN THAT PREVIOUSLY EXISTED, BUT HE'S TALKING ABOUT UPDATING NEW PLANS. BUT THIS IS MORE IN TERMS OF JUST IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE BIKE LANES, WHERE WOULD YOU? EXPLAIN THAT? THE RISK WE TAKE IF WE DON'T DO DRAINAGE
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IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S A PRETTY BIG RISK, ESPECIALLY FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE ALONG TEN MILE CREEK. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE IT'S MY BACKYARD. BUT THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. SO, SO. YEAH, I MEAN, THERE'S CERTAINLY THERE'S CERTAINLY ANY NUMBER OF THINGS, BUT. RIGHT, THAT'S WHERE DOING THE STUDY IS GOING TO GIVE US A LOT MORE DATA TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS INSTEAD OF US TRYING TO GUESS. IT ALSO HELP US IDENTIFY THE RISK. AND USUALLY FUNDING SOLUTIONS, AND USUALLY FUNDING SOLUTIONS GO MUCH FURTHER ALONG WHEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A PLAN, RIGHT? SO AND THOSE MASTER PLANS, IF I MAY ADD, THOSE USUALLY INCLUDE ON THEIR PREFERRED TO, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON, IS BASICALLY TO INCLUDE SOME ASSET MANAGEMENT FEES TO IT, WHERE IT LOOKS AT THOSE ASSETS IN GENERAL, BEING THE WATER AND SEWER OR THE DRAINAGE, AND THEN IT IDENTIFIES. OPTIMIZATION OR PRIORITIZATION RECOMMENDATIONS AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN ITSELF. YOU HAVE TO RALLY THE DOG PARK PEOPLE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START BARKING LOUDER. I MEAN, THEY CAN'T YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT AN IDEA FOR A FUNDRAISER. WE NEED TO WE KNOW WE ON JULY 4TH, EVERYBODY'S HERE. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE STREET LIGHTING. IS THAT IS THAT PART OF THE COMPLETE STREETS POLICY? STREET LIGHTING? WELL, IT WOULD BE AS WE GO THROUGH IT. RIGHT. BUT WHAT THIS REALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO OF WHETHER OR NOT WE ACTUALLY PURCHASE ALL THE CITY STREET LIGHTS FROM ENCORE. ENCORE OWNS ALL OF THEM. BUT WHAT FOR? FOR SOME, RATHER A VERY SMALL AMOUNT, BUT BUT I'M JUST ASKING IN GENERAL, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE COMPLETE THAT'S REGARDED IN THE COMPLETE STREETS POLICY? I THINK THE LIGHTING IS. NO, IT'S NOT PART OF THE COMPLETE STREET POLICY. THIS THIS IN SPECIFIC IS A SEPARATE PROJECT. CURRENTLY THE CITY DOES NOT OWN MAJORITY OF THE STREET LIGHTS. IT'S OWNED BY ENCORE AND WE ARE PAYING THEM WHEN IT'S OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY ENCORE. WE'RE JUST DEFINITELY PAYING MUCH MORE THAN WHEN WE OWN THEM. AND SOME OF THESE STREETS ARE NOT LED, AND SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE ABOUT 40% OF THESE STREETS ARE NOT LED LIGHTS. SO IT'S MORE ENERGY CONSUMING. SO IN THAT REGARD, WE'RE DOING SOME PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT THAT SHOWED ABOUT $300,000 PER YEAR SAVING BY PURCHASING. BUT THERE IS AN INVESTMENT OF ALSO PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE TO BE ABOUT $2 MILLION TO PURCHASE THOSE AND TURN THAT THOSE ONES THAT ARE NOT LED INTO LED. AND THEN WE WILL START RECEIVING THOSE SAVINGS. BUT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH A DETAILED ANALYSIS WITH THAT CONSULTANT ON GIVING US SOME KIND OF STUDY THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU. AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE LIKE MORE SPECIFIC AND MORE RELIABLE BEFORE WE CAN BRING IT IN. WE DIDN'T WANT TO BRING THAT THAT PRELIMINARY BALLPARK ANALYSIS ON CAUSE PRACTICE IS TO CONVERT THESE TO LED THROUGH ATTRITION.SO WHO KNOWS HOW LONG THAT COULD BE. AND THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT BECAUSE I CAN MAKE A COMMENT VERY SIMILAR TO THAT. LIKE AND THEIR PRACTICE IS ALSO FROM EVERYTHING I UNDERSTAND.
AND I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH KENNETH TO ARGUE WITH MUNICIPALITIES THAT WANT TO BUY THEIR STREET LIGHTS BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE LOSS OF REVENUE FOR, OF COURSE. SO WHEN YOU. CAN HAVE.
THAT LONG TERM OKAY. PRIORITY LEVELS, ALL PROJECTS THERE'S TEN ON HERE LOOKING BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HERE FROM YOU AGAIN IS THERE'S A FEW EXTRA THAT WEREN'T ON SOME OF YOUR OTHER RANKINGS. ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICT IS ON HERE. 2025 BOND COMPLETION OF THE 2018 BOND. STUFF LIKE MAIN AND CAMP WISDOM TRAIL PROJECTS, THE ARMY STAFF RECRUITING, BUDGETING SOFTWARE LIKE FOR INSTANCE, OPENGOV, OPENGOV AND OUR WORKFLOW WORKFLOW ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE, PLEASE? OKAY. SO YEAH.
IN SPECIFIC THE SOFTWARES IN WHICH WE'RE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THEM OR THE ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. SO THE ASSET MANAGEMENT THE ASSET MANAGEMENT PART OKAY. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON BRINGING A POTENTIALLY WE'RE WE'RE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULING THE MARCH 18TH TO BE A BRIEFING TO HAVE A OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE BRIEFING BEFORE COUNCIL. WHAT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IS BASICALLY PROVIDE A WORKFLOW MANAGEMENT ALONG WITH ASSET MANAGEMENT, AND HELP HELP US WITH THE DATA DRIVEN DECISION
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MAKING WHEN IT COMES TO MAINTENANCE AS WELL. AND THE FUTURE. CURRENTLY WE'RE TARGETING HAVING THAT ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR PUBLIC WORKS DIVISIONS, AND WHAT THAT SHOULD DO IS WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON TRYING TO LINK THAT INTO THE SERVICE REQUEST. SO WE HAVE HAD THAT CONCERN. BUT THAT WAS RAISED BY COUNCIL ABOUT THE EXISTING SERVICE REQUEST SYSTEM, WHICH IS BEING SEECLICKFIX THAT WHEN SERVICE REQUESTS COME IN, THEY ARE ADDRESSED, BUT WE CANNOT SEE IF THEY'RE ADDRESSED OR NOT OR WHAT HAS BEEN DONE ON THEM. WE CAN ONLY SEE THEM CLOSED. SO WHAT THE ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WOULD DO OR THE WORK ORDER SYSTEM WOULD DO.WE'RE TARGETING GETTING A SERVICE REQUEST SYSTEM THAT'S LINKED TO THE WORK ORDERS. SO ONCE A SERVICE REQUEST COMES IN, WE'RE JUST ISSUING A WORK ORDER OUT OF THAT TO THAT TEAM BEING THE STREETS OR BEING ANY OTHER TEAM. AND THEN YOU'RE ABLE TO TRACK AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE DONE ABOUT THAT SERVICE REQUEST UNTIL WE'RE CLOSED. SO WE'RE CLOSING IT. THEN. THAT DATA NOW BECOMES HISTORY FOR MAINTENANCE. EVERY TIME WE DO ANY WORK, THERE IS A ABILITY TO DO PLANNED WORK.
PLANNED WORK, LIKE IF WE WANT TO DO PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ON DIFFERENT ASSETS, WE CAN ALSO CREATE PROJECTS WITHIN THAT SYSTEM AND DISPATCH STAFF. IT CAN LINK INTO OUR INVENTORY THAT IS IN THE SYSTEM TOO. SO BASICALLY WE CAN ASSOCIATE EACH WORK ORDER WITH HOURS, WITH LABOR, HOURS, WITH MATERIALS AND CREATE A COST ESTIMATE FOR THAT, AND ALSO BE ABLE TO USE IT AS A MAINTENANCE HISTORY TO PROVIDE DECISION MAKING FOR WHAT TO MAINTAIN FIRST IN THE FUTURE. SO IT HAS TO BE A FULL CYCLE THAT WE HAVE TO ACHIEVE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TIME TO UTILIZE IT AND GIVE IT THE AS MORE DATA AS WE CAN BEFORE WE CAN HAVE THIS FULL CYCLE. AND OUT OF THAT SYSTEM. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO COME COME TO BEFORE COUNCIL SOON TO DEMONSTRATE THE PRODUCT WE HAVE BEEN ANALYZING AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING. SO JUST TO CONNECT THE DOTS FOR COUNCIL HERE FOR A SECOND. SO ON THE WORK PLAN AGREEMENT THAT I HAVE WITH YOU, IT HAS A DATE OF SEPTEMBER 30TH THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DASHBOARD THAT YOU CAN VIEW, REQUESTS THAT HAVE COME IN FROM RESIDENTS AND WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT IS. SO TO WORK BACKWARDS FROM THAT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT THEY'VE LOOKED AT THAT WOULD TAKE UP TO SIX MONTHS TO IMPLEMENT. AND SO THEY'VE HAD TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MEET THAT DATE OF HAVING THAT ACTIVE BY SEPTEMBER 30TH. AND SO WE'RE ABOUT READY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. BUT THAT IS A NEW SOFTWARE SYSTEM TO DO THAT. SO JUST TO CONNECT THE DOTS FOR YOU. SO I LOVE IT. THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHERS ALSO ON HERE THAT COME FROM THE WORK PLAN, JUST SO YOU KNOW, TO THE TEN YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. THE IT DISASTER PLAN IS ALSO SOMETHING ON THE WORK PLAN. SO THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THIS STUFF IS COMING FROM AS WELL. THESE ARE ALL THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ANGEL IS TRACKING FOR. COMMENTS QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS. YOU KNOW I HEARD THAT I MISSED THAT. WHAT.
OH ALL RIGHT WE'RE ALMOST DONE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ALMOST DONE. JUST A FEW QUESTIONS LEFT OKAY.
COME ON. I'M 15 MINUTES LATE. OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY? OPEN ENDED. ANYTHING.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE HAPPEN DURING YOUR CURRENT TERM ON COUNCIL? OR YOU AS AS STAFF OR RESIDENTS IN THE ROOM? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE? ARE THESE SENTENCES ANYTHING? COULD BE A WORD. IT COULD BE A SENTENCE. IT COULD BE A PARAGRAPH. IT COULD BE A PICTURE. IT COULD BE ANYTHING. DID YOU SAY RESIDENTS IN THE ROOM? YES. WELL, WE HAVE A WATER TANK UP NEAR FAIRMEADOWS, AND I'VE ASKED THE CITY BEFORE WHY THESE BLACK STREAKS COMING DOWN THERE IS THAT BLACK MOLD GROWING INSIDE THE TANK. THEY SAID, NO, IT'S NOT. THE WATER RUNS OVER THE EDGE UP TO THE TOP. AND THE POLLUTION FROM MIDLOTHIAN BLOWS IN THERE AND IT TURNS IT BLACK.
WE GO OUT AND WASH THAT OFF EVERY NOW AND THEN. IT GOES DOWN INTO THE KIDS PLAYGROUND. SO I'M WAITING TILL THE MAN GETS IN THE WHITE HOUSE UP THERE WITH THE EPA, GETS SETTLED WHEN HE WHEN WE TURN THAT OVER TO THEM, AND THEN YOU'LL BE FIGHTING ANOTHER, YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER LIST UP HERE TAKING CARE OF THE EPA. INVESTIGATION AND STUFF. THANK YOU. THAT'S THAT'S FROM THE
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RESIDENTS. YOU SAID RESIDENTS, I APPRECIATE IT. DULY NOTED. WE GOT IT. LOOKS LIKE NOBODY WANTS A POLICE STATION. MAN, I LOVE THIS ROOM. YEAH. THIS. CHIEF, WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? I DON'T HAVE MY PHONE. HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE ON DUTY RIGHT NOW? THAT BAD? POLICE DEPARTMENT, ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICT ACTIVATED WITH SCULPTURES AND OTHER ART ASSETS. ARMY COMPLETED. DRAINAGE. ARTS. POLICE. POLICE. POLICE. POLICE. POLICE. POLICE. POLICE. POLICE.ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GET THE GIST. THANK YOU. MOVING ALONG HERE. IF WE ONLY HAD FUNDS, WE WANT PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, MAYBE IT'S THE SAME ONE THAT YOU JUST SHARED WITH ME. WHAT IS THAT PROJECT THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE? I AM JUST AMAZED THE DOG PARK IS NOT. YOU KNOW HOW MANY RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY HAVE DOGS? OH, THERE IT IS. THANK THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WHOEVER PUT IT ON. THERE, THERE.
LET'S GO. CAN'T QUITE SEE THE REST OF THEM, BUT WE'LL GET THEM ON. SO AWESOME. OKAY. THANK YOU.
I THINK WE'RE JUST ABOUT FINISHED AS WE CONTINUE REFINING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
THE INITIATIVES YOU BELIEVE WILL HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS.
INITIATIVE OR INITIATIVES? BUT WHEN YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT 2040, WHAT IS IT THAT WE SHOULD BE INCLUDING IN THE CIP NOW TO DRIVE THE GREATEST IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS? AND I'M INTENTIONALLY NOT SAYING ANYTHING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PREFACE IT. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT COMES FROM YOUR MIND. SO IS THIS JUST ONE THING WE GET TO PICK? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THIRD PLACE DEVELOPMENTS IS, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S SOMEBODY IN THE ROOM OR MAYBE EVEN SOMEBODY WATCHING BECAUSE WE ARE BROADCASTING LIVE, BUT. I'M WONDERING IF THIRD PLACE IS LIKE MIXED USE TYPE THING. I'M GOING TO GUESS, BUT I'M NOT 100% SURE OF THAT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SHARE ON THAT? AND I SAID, I WANT TO MOVE TO THAT. SO THEY'RE NOT HERE. OKAY. SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. RETENTION POLICE, FIRE SERVICE CENTER. THE BIG THREE FIRE STATION. POLICE. ARMY. I SEE A COUPLE. ARTS. ARTS AND CULTURE. DISTRICT SERVICE, PARKS IMPROVEMENTS. ALL GOOD STUFF. ONE MORE QUESTION. I THINK I'M PRETTY SURE THIS LAST ONE. I THINK DON'T HOLD ME TO IT. I THINK THOSE LAST ONE, THOUGH, FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WHAT INITIATIVE OR INITIATIVES DO YOU FEEL LIKE SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED? WHAT SHOULD WE BE WORKING ON FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY? AS WE THINK ABOUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN? COMING UP. 12 COURT PROFESSIONAL PICKLEBALL. JEREMY. IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. WATER. STREETS. INFRASTRUCTURE. BUSINESS RETENTION. OKAY. MIXED USE.
MULTI UNITS. REDEVELOPMENT. CITY OWNED PROPERTIES. PUTTING THEM BACK ON THE TAX ROLL. BUSINESS
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SUPPORT. PROPERTY REBUILDING. THANK YOU. ALL. VERY GOOD STUFF. I ASK I DON'T REALLY NEED THAT ONE. WE'RE GOING TO SKIP THAT ONE JUST BECAUSE I PROMISED YOU. AND I'M ALREADY LATE. AND I'M SORRY, BUT THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES HELP US, GIVES US A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT TO BRING BACK TO YOU. ANY LAST MINUTE QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? THOUGHTS? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR EVERYONE TO SEE EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, AND ODDLY ENOUGH, I WAS SURPRISED THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE. THERE WAS A LOT. AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS THE ANSWERS WE'RE SEEING NOW ARE ALSO CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SAW LAST YEAR. RIGHT? RIGHT. SO, I MEAN, MOST THINGS AREN'T REALLY CHANGING ALL THAT MUCH AS FAR AS WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE. GOOD STUFF. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR. THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS AT THIS POINT. WE'LL GO TO THE GENERAL MEETING. MAYOR,* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.