5.B. City Council to hold a public hearing on a request for an amendment to the Wheatland Plaza Planned Development

[5.C. Consider authorization of a grant in the amount of $9,000 to the Fire Department for the City's Insurance Service Office (ISO) Rating Review]

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE C CITIES INSURANCE SERVICE OFFICE RATING REVIEW. MR. BARRERA. YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS EVENING. WHAT YOU HAVE IS A GRANT REQUEST FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO EVALUATE CERTAIN SYSTEMS. IT REALLY WITH THE INTENT OF IMPROVING THE CITY'S INSURANCE SERVICE OFFICER RATING THE TASK ALTOGETHER IS A TASK OF $18,000 TO HIRE THE CONSULTANT, TO DO A SERIES OF EVALUATIONS AND STUDIES AND SO FORTH. THE CITY'S CURRENT ISIL RATING IS A CLASS TWO, BUT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO WITH IS OBTAIN A CLASS ONE. THE THOUGHT IS THAT BY ACHIEVING A CLASS RATING OF ONE, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE DECREASING INSURANCE PREMIUMS FOR COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS BY APPROXIMATELY 2% AND POSSIBLY DECREASING OUR RATINGS FOR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES BY 1%. THIS GRANT REQUEST WAS PRESENTED TO THE.

THE DCDC EXCUSE ME ON NOVEMBER 24TH AND AFTER THE PRESENTATION, THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE GRANT REQUEST. THOSE ARE ALL THE THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE REGARDING THIS MATTER. MR.

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MCBURNETT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT, BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY A ROAD MAP OF TRYING TO IMPROVE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FIRE SERVICE AND, AND THAT STUFF. SO IT'S A RELATIVELY CHEAP INVESTMENT. AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILWOMAN MCBURNETT. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN PENNYBAKER. PLEASE VOTE. THANK YOU. OKAY, MR. BREWER, YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR A WHILE. YEAH, YEAH. NEXT

[5.D. Consider approval of $11,390.00 Beautification Grant for Banner Replacement Project]

ITEM IS GOING TO BE. ITEM D5D BEAUTIFICATION GRANT FOR BANNER REPLACEMENT PROJECT. YES. THANK YOU. THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT ITEM I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO HAND OVER TO OUR NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR, MARCELLA PEREZ. SHE HANDLED THESE TWO GRANT APPLICATIONS, PRESENTING THEM TO THE DC EDC, AND PUT THE STAFF REPORT TOGETHER AND RESOLUTIONS FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING. SO I WILL ASK HER TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND PRESENT THE NEXT TWO ITEMS. YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I WILL BE PRESENTING SOME OF THE BACKGROUND AND HISTORY, AND I ALSO HAVE ASSISTANT PARKS DIRECTOR TYLER G. HERE WHO WILL HELP TO FINISH OUT THE PRESENTATION AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. SO JUST SOME BACKGROUND, AND I BELIEVE THAT THESE ITEMS WERE PRESENTED TO YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO, SO THIS SHOULD BE A CONTINUATION OF THAT ORIGINAL PRESENTATION. BUT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT CAME TO THE DCDC WITH A GRANT REQUEST FOR BANNERS THAT WOULD THE A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND IS THE EXISTING STREETLIGHT BANNERS ARE SEVEN YEARS OLD WITH SIGNIFICANT WEAR AND TEAR. THEY ARE DETRACTING FROM THE DESIRED ESTHETIC FOR THE MAIN STREET AND WHEATLAND ROAD CORRIDOR, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO REFLECT INSTEAD THE VIBRANT COMMUNITY OF DUNCANVILLE. THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE BANNERS ARE TO ENHANCE THE VISUAL APPEAL OF PUBLIC SPACES.

THE SEASONAL BANNERS WOULD CREATE INSTEAD A WELCOMING ATMOSPHERE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE, AND CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION'S GOALS.

THE PROJECT REQUEST INCLUDES A PURCHASE AND INSTALL OF 75 NEW BANNERS AND CORRESPONDING EQUIPMENT. THERE ARE FOUR SEASONAL DESIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, THE FIRST SURROUNDING THE HOLIDAYS FROM THAT WOULD BE DISPLAYED FROM NOVEMBER TO JANUARY. THE SECOND KEEP DUNCANVILLE BEAUTIFUL, A THEME SURROUNDING THAT PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE DISPLAYED FEBRUARY TO APRIL. THEN THE HOMETOWN CHAMPIONS BANNER THEME FROM MAY TO JULY, AND LASTLY A CITY OF CHAMPIONS BANNER THEME FROM AUGUST TO OCTOBER. AND AGAIN, THE GOALS OF THIS PROJECT ARE TO ENHANCE THE STREETSCAPE, SHOWCASE DUNCANVILLE COMMITMENT TO BEAUTIFICATION AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, AND USE HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS TO REDUCE THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE NEEDS. AND THE STREETSCAPE BANNER PROGRAM WAS THE GRANT REQUEST WAS PRESENTED TO THE EDC AT THE REGULAR NOVEMBER 25TH, 2024 BOARD MEETING, AND THAT MOTION DID CARRY 5 TO 0. AND NOW I WILL HAND IT OVER TO TYLER. EVENING COUNCIL. TYLER AG, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR PARKS AND RECREATION. WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS THE PROPOSED PROGRAM SCOPE OF WHERE THE BANNERS WILL BE ON MAIN AND WHEATLAND. THE BOTH HIGHLIGHTED ROUTES ARE ENCORE LIGHT POLES THAT WILL BE DISPLAYED SEASONALLY. EACH ONE OF THESE BANNERS, AS YOU SEE, WILL BE DISPLAYED SEASONALLY OUTLINED BY THE SCHEDULE THAT MARCELLA JUST PROPOSED. IF YOU NOTE THAT THE HOMETOWN CHAMPIONS BANNERS WERE ONLY ALONG WHEATLAND, THERE IS A PLAN. IF WE GET MORE APPLICANTS, WE PLAN TO ROLL THAT THAT PROGRAM OUT AND GET SOME MARKETING MATERIAL OUT. IF WE HAVE MORE APPLICANTS

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THAT WANT TO PARTICIPATE, THEN WE CAN EXTEND THAT PROGRAM ALONG MAIN AS WELL. THE FINANCIAL DETAILS AROUND THIS REQUEST. SO WE REQUESTED $11,390 FROM EDC UNDER THE BEAUTIFICATION GRANT.

THE COST BREAKDOWN FOR THIS WAS NEW SEASONAL BANNERS. THEY WERE $8,235 FOR 75 BANNERS FEATURING MODERN, VIBRANT DESIGNS, MOUNTING EQUIPMENT. SO SINCE THE BANNERS ARE SLIGHTLY LARGER IN SIZE THAN THE ONES WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WE NEEDED TO GET NEW MOUNTS AND NEW POLE STANDARDS FOR THEM. ALL OF THEM ARE IN LINE WITH ENCORE STANDARDS FOR THE STREET LIGHT POLES. SHIPPING COST WAS 405 TO GET THEM HERE IN TIME AND THEN INSTALLATION COSTS. SHOULD WE DECIDE WE DIDN'T INCLUDE AN ACTUAL INSTALLATION COST AMOUNT ONLY BECAUSE WE IN-HOUSE THOSE OPERATIONS NOW, BUT IF WE DO PLAN TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM TO OTHER STREETS, CAMP WISDOM, OTHER ROADS, WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT OUTSOURCING SOME OF THOSE THINGS JUST BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUFFICE THAT PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY. FUNDING JUSTIFICATION. SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS. THIS PROJECT ALIGNS WITH EDC'S FOCUS ON ENHANCING DUNCANVILLE BUSINESS CORRIDORS AND PUBLIC SPACES, AND THEN A LONG TERM INVESTMENT IN THE CITY'S VISUAL IDENTITY AND COMMUNITY APPEARANCE. THE IMPLEMENTATION AND TIMELINE FOR THIS. SO WE WERE APPROVED IN DECEMBER FOR THE FUNDS FOR THIS, THIS PROGRAM. WE PLAN TO PURCHASE THIS MONTH. ONCE WE PROCURE THE SUPPLIES AND BANNERS, WE CAN START TO INPUT THEM. SO WE ALREADY HAVE OUR HAWK CREW AND OUR PROJECT MANAGER ON BOARD, READY TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THOSE BANNERS UP AND HAVE EVERYTHING UP AND RUNNING. WE'LL HAVE THE FIRST INSTALLATION OF BANNERS, HOPEFULLY UP IN MARCH IS WHEN WE'LL START WITH THE HOMETOWN HEROES BANNERS. SO. EXECUTION OF THIS PLAN. WE PLAN TO ENSURE THAT COMPLIANCE WITH ALL CITY ORDINANCES AND ENCORE REGULATIONS, MAINTAIN SAFE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS AND PROPER INSTALLATION STANDARDS OF THOSE BANNERS EACH QUARTER. AND THEN SOME OF OUR SUCCESS INDICATORS WOULD BE POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THE ENHANCED STREETSCAPE, IMPROVED VISUAL APPEAL OF MAIN STREET AND WHEATLAND, SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES AND CIVIC PRIDE, AND THEN REQUESTS FOR EXPANSION OF THE PROGRAM TO OTHER STREETS SUCH AS DANIEL DALE AND CAMP WISDOM. ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE. OH, OKAY. SECOND, WE HAVE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION BY BY COUNCILMAN BURNETTE AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN. COUNCILWOMAN. KAREN CHERRY. CHERRY. CHERRY. BROWN. I KNOW.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S VOTE. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. OH,

[5.E. Consider approval of $4,960.00 Landscaping/Hanging Flower Basket Beautification Grant]

WE'VE GOT WE STILL GOT THE SECOND ONE. MARCEL. YOU'RE STILL UP. ITEM E BEAUTIFICATION GRANT FOR BANNER REPLACEMENT PROJECT. YES, SIR. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS. THE INTENTION HERE, OF COURSE, IS TO SUPPORT THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR, WHICH HAS ALREADY WHICH ALREADY FEATURES A NUMBER OF LOCAL BUSINESSES. HISTORIC CHARM, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY STREETS. THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR HAS STRONG POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC AND BUSINESS ENGAGEMENT.

AND THE ADDING THE HANGING PLANTER BASKETS WOULD JUST ENHANCE THE ESTHETIC TO THE CURB APPEAL. THE DECORATIVE LIGHT POLES THEY WOULD HANG FROM, THE DECORATIVE LIGHT POLES, THE EXISTING. PROJECT SCOPE. OF COURSE, THE BASKET BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM AIMS TO ENHANCE THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR BY INSTALLING 12 HANGING FLOWER BASKETS ON THE EXISTING LIGHT POLES, AS MENTIONED ALONG MAIN STREET BETWEEN DAVIS AND CENTER STREETS. THE Y AGAIN OVERALL, IS JUST TO ENHANCE THE OVERALL APPEAL, MAKING IT A MORE VIBRANT. INTRODUCING SEASONAL FLORAL DISPLAYS AND JUST MAKING IT MORE VISUALLY APPEALING TO THE BUSINESS, EXISTING BUSINESSES, THE EXISTING VISITORS, BUT ALSO HOPEFULLY TO ATTRACT OUTSIDE VISITORS AND GUESTS WITH THIS IN A WAY ALSO TO SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES BY ENHANCING THEIR IMMEDIATE ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY GOALS. THESE PLANTERS, I KNOW WERE SPECIFICALLY CHOSEN TO

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UTILIZE DROUGHT TOLERANT AND NATIVE PLANT SPECIES AND TO ENSURE ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY, REDUCING AND ALSO REDUCING THE MAINTENANCE COSTS. AND THEY WOULD BE STRATEGICALLY PLACED TO COMPLEMENT THE EXISTING STREETSCAPE FEATURES. AND AGAIN, THIS GRANT REQUEST WAS ALSO PRESENTED AT THE REGULAR NOVEMBER 25TH, 2024 DC EDC BOARD MEETING AND WAS APPROVED WITH A MOTION THAT WAS CARRIED FORWARD TO ONE. AS YOU SEE BEFORE YOU, THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE MAP FOR THOSE HANGING FLOWER PLANTER BASKETS, ALONG WITH A KIND OF A RENDERING OF WHAT THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR COULD LOOK LIKE WITH SOME OTHER PHOTOS FROM SOME OTHER CITIES. YOU SEE THE DESIGN OF THE PLANTER BASKETS. IDEALLY, WE WENT WITH A PRODUCT THAT WAS KIND OF SELF-WATERING. WE WILL HAVE TO MANUALLY REFILL THE WATER BASKETS, BUT IDEALLY WE WON'T HAVE TO GET UP THERE LIKE EVERY DAY AND TURN ON WATER LIKE WE DO WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER PLANT AREAS. SO WE'LL FILL THESE UP ONCE EVERY WEEK OR SO, AND THEY WILL WATER THEMSELVES TO KEEP THOSE PLANTS NOURISHED AND VIBRANT THROUGHOUT THOSE TIMES. AS MARCELLA DID MENTION, THESE ARE GOING ON EXISTING LIGHT POLES THAT GO THROUGHOUT THE MAIN STREET CORRIDOR. SO THOSE ARE THE BLACK DECORATIVE LIGHT POLES THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE ENCORE LIGHT POLES. SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS ATTACH BRACKETS TO THEM AND HANG THE FLOWER BASKETS PARALLEL TO MAIN STREET SO THEY'RE NOT PROTRUDING INTO THE STREET, BUT PEOPLE CAN STILL SEE THEM FROM CARS AS WELL AS WALKING IN THAT DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. THE FINANCIAL DETAILS OF THE REQUEST. WE ASKED FOR $4,960 UNDER THE LANDSCAPE GRANT PROGRAM. A COST BREAKDOWN FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS MATERIALS AND INSTALLATION FOR 12 HANGING FLOWER BASKETS TO GO ON THE 12 DECORATIVE POLES. SEASONAL PLANTS A MIX OF PERENNIAL AND SEASONAL FLOWERS TO ENSURE YEAR ROUND APPEAL, WATERING, PRUNING AND PERIODIC REPLACEMENT OF THOSE FLOWERS WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING THAT WE IN-HOUSE AGAIN BECAUSE WE MAINTAIN THAT AREA ALREADY. JUSTIFICATION WOULD BE WE FEEL THAT THIS THIS PROJECT ALSO ALIGNS WITH THE EDC'S GOAL OF ENHANCING CURB APPEAL AND SUPPORTING THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION, COST EFFECTIVE AND SUSTAINABLE WITH THE USE OF DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTS. AND THEN IT LEVERAGES EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS THE LIGHT POLES, REDUCING ADDITIONAL COST.

THE ECONOMIC IMPACT WOULD BE INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC AND BUSINESS ACTIVITY IN THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR, AND THEN LONG TERM VALUE AND CREATING A VIBRANT AND MORE ATTRACTIVE DOWNTOWN FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. IMPLEMENTATION AND TIMELINE FOR THIS PROJECT.

AGAIN, WE WERE APPROVED IN DECEMBER FOR THE FUNDING. ONCE YOU ALL, IF YOU ALL APPROVE, WE WILL BEGIN PURCHASING THE MATERIALS FOR THIS PROJECT THIS MONTH. INSTALLATION IN FEBRUARY WITH THE BASKETS AND MATERIALS FOR THAT. AND THEN WE SHOULD HAVE OUR FIRST BATCH OF PLANT OR VEGETATION IN THOSE BASKETS VIBRANT BY MARCH. EXECUTION OF THIS PLAN WOULD ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH CITY AND STREET ORDINANCES AND TRAFFIC SAFETY REGULATIONS. ONGOING MAINTENANCE WOULD BE SCHEDULED REGULARLY TO WATER AND CARE FOR TO KEEP UP THE BASKETS, HEALTH AND THE PLANT HEALTH AND VISUALLY APPEALING. AND WE WOULD BE USING DROUGHT TOLERANT MATERIAL AND NATIVE PLANTS TO MINIMIZE WATER CONSUMPTION AND THEN MAINTENANCE COST. SOME KEY SUCCESS INDICATORS OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE POSITIVE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON THE BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS, INCREASED ACTIVITY AND ECONOMIC ENGAGEMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND THEN SUSTAINABLE AND VISUALLY APPEALING STREETSCAPE MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN KUNTZ? THANK YOU MAYOR. SO YEAH, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AS WELL. SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TO US. AND YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE THAT WE HAD, THERE.

SURE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO IF THAT'S IF THAT'S WHAT BEN FRANKLIN IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. YOU KNOW, WE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO WITH BEN FRANKLIN. BUT I DO WANT US TO NOTE THAT THE FLOWER BASKETS ARE THERE, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME OTHER LANDSCAPING THAT'S TAKING PLACE. AND SO I HOPE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS YOU KNOW, THIS IS EXCITING, NOT JUST ABOUT THE BASKETS, BUT JUST HEADING IN THE DIRECTION OF INCREASING THE GREEN SPACE AND TRYING TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THE I THINK THEY'RE CALLED HEAT MAPS, YOU KNOW, JUST PLACES WHERE THERE'S JUST NOTHING GREEN. IT'S JUST SO 1 OR 2 QUESTIONS. SO DID KDB HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS YET? I DON'T BELIEVE THEY IT WAS BROUGHT TO THEM. I THINK WE TOOK THIS DIRECTLY TO EDC TO

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GET FUNDING APPROVAL, BUT THEY WILL PROBABLY BE PARTICIPATING IN IT BECAUSE THEY DO DO A CLEANUP. AND I THINK THEY HAVE A PLOT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT AREA. SO. SO YEAH. SO AFTER HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE APPROVE TONIGHT MAYBE YOU KNOW CDB CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT YOU KNOW I'M SURE THEY COULD BRING A LOT TO THIS AS WELL AS FAR AS YOU KNOW MAYBE WHAT KINDS OF PLANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN ALSO WHERE WILL WE SOURCE THE PLANTS. BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE GOT LOCALLY SOME SOME GREENHOUSES AND ABSOLUTELY. SO WE CURRENTLY TRY TO SOURCE ALL OF OUR MATERIALS LOCALLY. SO COX FARMS ROCKY. FARMS, WE LOOK PRETTY MUCH LOCALLY FOR A LOT OF OUR PLANT MATERIAL. SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY ALLOW THEM TO BID ON THOSE THINGS AND REQUEST QUOTES FROM THOSE AREAS AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM.

COUNCILMEMBER MCBURNETT, THANK YOU. I HAD A CURIOUS QUESTION. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE KEY INDICATORS OR KEY SUCCESS. YEAH. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MEASURE INCREASED ACTIVITY AND ECONOMIC ENGAGEMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA BY PUTTING UP PLANTERS? SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A PLATFORM, PLACER.AI, THAT DOES TRACK FOOT TRAFFIC THROUGHOUT THE CITY USING KEY POINTS WE CAN PUT INTO THAT SOFTWARE AND IDEALLY GET FOOT TRAFFIC FROM ONE DATE TO THE NEXT TO SEE INCREASE OR DECREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO THOSE AREAS. OKAY. WELL, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER KOONTZ, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. WE HAVE A BIG, LARGE MAIN STREET, AND I HOPE THAT THIS A SEGMENT THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY GO INTO SOMETHING FURTHER AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. COUNCILMAN VERACRUZ. THANK YOU MAYOR. I GET IT WRONG EVERY TIME, BUT BE MY LEGACY. IS THAT IT? SEE? SEE MY LEGACY. SEE MY LEGACY. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY IMPLEMENT INTO THAT AT SOME POINT AND MAYBE GROW IT LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER MCBURNETT? I'M I'M DEFINITELY NOT TAKING IT OFF THE TABLE. I BELIEVE DURING THE PRESENTATION TO DC EDC, THEY EXPRESSED SOME INTEREST IN ALSO FUNDING ADDITIONAL PROJECTS LIKE THIS. SO I'M DEFINITELY OPEN TO PUTTING IT ON, SEE MY SEE MY LEGACY AND THEN BRINGING IT BACK TO DC EDC FOR MORE FUNDS. PERFECT. THANK YOU. AND I'LL SECOND THAT. MAYOR. COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VERACRUZ. PLEASE VOTE. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO ITEM FIVE F. MR. BREWER IS BACK TO TALK ABOUT

[5.F. Consider a resolution authorizing approval of incentive grants by the Duncanville Community & Economic Development Corporation (DCEDC) to Cortina Worldwide, LLC, in an amount not to exceed $300,000.00 for a building located at 220 N. Main St, Duncanville, Texas 75116]

THE DESIGN INCENTIVE GRANT FOR CORTINA WORLDWIDE. YES. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I AM BACK AND I AM BACK TO PRESENT THE NEXT THREE GRANT REQUEST. THIS ONE IS ONE THAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED. BUT WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE AND REALLY TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SUMMARIZE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TERMS. WHEN I ORIGINALLY PRESENTED THIS, I HAD PRESENTED IT AS THE ENCINO RESTAURANTS AND MATT'S BULKY PURCHASING THE PROPERTY. WHAT'S CHANGED SINCE THEN IS THAT WE HAVE NOW CORTINA WORLDWIDE LLC, WHO'S PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, BUT THE MANAGING PARTNER BEHIND THIS LLC IS MATT BULKY. SO THE REQUEST IS $300,000 TO COMPLETE THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR RENOVATION OF THE BUILDING. THE BUILDING IS 220 NORTH MAIN STREET, JUST SOUTH OF THE BEN FRANKLIN FACILITY. HERE. SHORTLY, WE WILL PROVIDE PICTURES OF THE BUILDING AND ITS EXISTING CONDITION. THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND. IF THE GRANT IS APPROVED, THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND RESTAURANTS TO OPEN. THERE'S CURRENTLY ONE IN BISHOP ARTS DISTRICT AND THIS WOULD BE RESTAURANT NUMBER TWO. BOTH WOULD BE BOTH WOULD REMAIN OPEN.

IN THIS INSTANCE, AS WITH OTHER GRANT APPLICATIONS, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR THE MONEY TO BE PROVIDED TO UP FRONT. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE PUT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THE MONEY AT THE TIME OF CLOSING WILL BE GIVEN TO THE LENDER, AND THE LENDER WILL BE IN CHARGE OF DISBURSING THOSE FUNDS AS AS A TYPICAL CONSTRUCTION DRAW, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT CORRIDOR AND THESE IMPROVEMENTS, AS IT WOULD PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL DINING OPPORTUNITY, CREATE JOBS AND GENERATE SALES TAX, SALES TAX, WATER TAX AND

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ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE COST OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS. THE IMPROVEMENTS EXCEED THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF $300,000 OF MEMORY. SERVES ME CORRECTLY. THE TOTAL COST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE APPROXIMATELY 306,000, BUT WE LEFT IT AT 300 300,000. WHEN THIS GRANT REQUEST WAS PRESENTED TO THE DC EDC ON OCTOBER 28TH, 2024, THEY UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE REQUEST AT $300,000. THE QUESTION WHEN I FIRST PRESENTED IT WAS ASKED TO HAVE READY TO SHARE WITH YOU IS WHAT WOULD BE THE ESTIMATE OF VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE RENOVATIONS. AND SO THE ESTIMATED VALUE IS 1 TO 1.2 MILLION VALUE AFTER $300,000 PLACED INTO THE BUILDING AND THE ACQUISITION OF THE BUILDING. RIGHT NOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROPERTY'S IS BEING ACQUIRED AT A PRICE OF $490,000. AS FAR AS ESTIMATED NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, THEY ESTIMATE 27 TO 32 EMPLOYEES. AND THIS IS ALL DEPENDENT ON THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS. THE ESTIMATED SALES VOLUME FOR YEAR NUMBER ONE, THE ESTIMATE IS 1.7 MILLION, YEAR NUMBER 22. 1 MILLION, AND YEAR NUMBER 32. 4 MILLION. THE CURRENT AGREEMENT IS STRUCTURED AS A TEN YEAR FORGIVABLE LOAN, AND THAT EVERY YEAR THAT THE RESTAURANT IS OPEN, A PORTION OF THE ORIGINAL 300,000 IS FORGIVEN. AND WE ALSO HAVE MATT BULKY, WHO IS PERSONALLY GUARANTEEING THE LOAN IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE TO REQUEST PAYBACK IN THE EVENT THAT THE RESTAURANT CLOSES WITHIN THE TEN YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. IF THE RESTAURANT IS OPEN TEN PLUS YEARS, THEN THE $300,000 THAT ARE GIVEN FOR THIS IS FORGIVEN.

AT THIS POINT, I WOULD HAND OFF THE PRESENTATION TO MR. ANDERSON TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS OF THE INTERIOR EXTERIOR, SOME OF THE BUILD OUT COSTS. AND HE ALSO HAPPENS TO HAVE MR. BULKY ON ON THE PHONE. MR. BULKY IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY. HE TOOK A WELL-DESERVED VACATION AFTER THE BUSY, BUSY HOLIDAY SEASON. HE WANTED TO BE HERE, BUT THIS WAS JUST A TRIP THAT WAS PLANNED WITH THE FAMILY AND HE JUST COULDN'T RESCHEDULE, BUT REALLY WANTED TO BE HERE AND MAKE HIMSELF AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS ENDEAVOR. SO THAT'S IT. I'LL PASS IT OVER TO MR. ANDERSON. THANK YOU, MR. PEROT. MR. BULKY IS ON THE LINE, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU ALL. AND HE'S LISTENING. AND SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, THEN. THEN I WILL RELAY THAT QUESTION. IF HE CAN HEAR, I THINK HE CAN HEAR.

HEAR IT. AND THEN I'LL GET YOU THE ANSWER BACK IF THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. MAYOR, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY, BUT IF IT GETS CUMBERSOME OR AND THEN I'D SAY WE NEED TO DO THAT. BUT.

I'M NOT. I'M NOT QUITE SURE I UNDERSTAND. WE'VE WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE. OKAY. AND IT BECOMES KIND OF A DISASTER AT TIMES. AND SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE THAT. SO IF IT SAYS THAT I WANT TO AS LONG AS WE CAN HEAR HIM, YOU CAN DO THAT. I KNOW THE PROJECT REALLY WELL. I'VE HELPED HIM PUT THE PROJECT TOGETHER SO I CAN PROBABLY PROBABLY ANSWER IT. I JUST HAVE HIM HERE IF WE NEED IT, IF WE NEED HIM. SO MAYBE WE WON'T EVEN NEED IT. ALL RIGHT, LET'S PROCEED. THIS IS THE PROJECT HERE IS. I'M MONTE ANDERSON AT 1210. GREENLEAF FOR THE RECORD, IN DUNCANVILLE HERE.

SO THE PROPERTY IS AT 220 NORTH MAIN, WHICH IS THE OLD TV SHOP. THE SELLER IS HERE TONIGHT TO TERESA IS HERE. LONG TIME OWNER. AND THIS IS THE ORIGINAL FIRE STATION IN DUNCANVILLE. AND MATT BALK, AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS ALREADY. AND CORY MCCOMBS HERE ARE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND BACK OF THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, OWNER OPERATORS. AND THEY WILL BE ONE OR THE OTHER OF THEM WILL BE HERE OPERATING THIS THIS RESTAURANT. ALSO. THEY'VE WON MANY DIFFERENT AWARDS. MATT'S A CHEF. THAT'S THAT. HE'S THE KIND OF GUY THAT'S IN THE KITCHEN WATCHING YOU AND WATCHING THE FLOOR, WATCHING THE RESTAURANT. IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A CORPORATE GUY THAT'S GOT TO HIRE PEOPLE AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE HERE. HE'S A HANDS ON KIND OF GUY, OPEN KIND OF KITCHEN CONCEPT. THE PROJECT IS ESTIMATED TO BE A MILLION, $225,000. AND WE'LL HAVE BREAKDOWN OF THAT AND THE CASH CONTRIBUTION BY HIM, THE AMOUNT OF THE BANK LOAN AND THEN THE GRANT FROM YOU, AND A 1,225,000 FOR A 3200 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON MAIN STREET IN DUNCANVILLE.

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ONE OF THE HARDSHIP IS THAT IT'LL PROBABLY ONLY APPRAISE FOR 900,000 OR 1 MILLION, YOU KNOW, AT THE MOST MILLION DOLLARS. SO THE HARDSHIP IS THE APPRAISAL. GETTING THAT APPRAISAL AT THIS TIME IN DUNCANVILLE. SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THE TV SHOP LOOKS LIKE TODAY. AND STRUCTURALLY IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION. SHE'S KEPT IT UP ALL THESE YEARS. THEY WILL THEY WILL OCCUPY THE FRONT PART IN THAT FIRST DOOR, AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE TWO SMALL LITTLE SPACES TO LEASE OUT. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE DINING ROOM, THE KITCHEN AND THEN THE TWO LITTLE RENTAL SPACES THEY HAVE, THEY'LL HAVE THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE OCCUPYING LIKE 75% OF THE BUILDING, JUST AN AERIAL, AN OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE RESTAURANT. JUST SOME MORE ARCHITECTURAL. I MUST HAVE LOST STEAM HERE. OKAY. THE ARCHITECTURAL, SOME MORE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEWS. I MEAN, VIEWS OF THE RESTAURANT, THE ELEVATION HERE. EVERYTHING'S GOT TO BE NEW. IT'LL BE COMPLETELY GUTTED, I MEAN, EVERYTHING. AIR CONDITIONING, I MEAN ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, EVERYTHING. THIS IS THIS IS THE PART OF THE BUILDING THAT STICKS OUT. IF YOU NOTICE, THAT BUILDING KIND OF SITS BACK A LITTLE BIT AND THERE'S A GREAT LITTLE PATIO PLACE OUT THERE, AND IT'LL BE A COVERED PATIO THAT YOU CAN OPEN THE OVERHEAD DOORS, YOU CAN SEE THE TWO OVERHEAD DOORS TO RESEMBLE A FIRE. YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO MAKE IT RESEMBLE A FIRE STATION.

AGAIN, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT REALLY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT MUCH, IS THERE? IT'S BEEN CHOPPED UP OVER THE YEARS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THE AREA THAT STICKS OUT. SO IT'LL BE COME OUT TO THE, TO THE, TO THE SAME POINT IN THE STREET THE OTHER BUILDINGS DO. AND JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF WHERE YOU COME IN THE FRONT DOOR. AND YOU CAN PUT FIRE DEPARTMENT DUNCANVILLE AS PART OF THE SIGN UP THERE MIGHT EVEN PUT THE YEAR, WHATEVER YEAR THIS WAS, THIS WAS DONE AND THAT IS THAT AREA OUTSIDE. SO IT'LL BE ABLE TO BE OUTDOORS OR INDOORS. IT'LL HAVE HEAT AND AIR AND YOU CAN OPEN IT UP. THIS JUST GIVES YOU A TOTAL. THIS IS THE A TOTAL AMOUNT OF RENOVATION COSTS THAT WILL WILL BE THERE ABOUT 650,000. AND THIS 300,000 IS WHAT MR. BARREIRO WAS TALKING ABOUT, IS THE ITEMS THAT ARE ALLOWABLE BY YOUR BY YOUR GRANT FITS THE GRANT REQUEST FITS THE LINE ITEMS SUCH AS ASBESTOS REMOVAL. YOU KNOW WINDOWS AND DOORS EXTERIOR. MOST OF THIS IS EXTERIOR PATIO STRUCTURE THOSE KIND OF THINGS INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS AND THAT'S IT. AND LIKE I SAID, HE'S HERE. AND BETWEEN THE THREE OF US, WE CAN SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. ARE YOU THERE? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBERS, HOLD ON. MR. MCBURNETT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT COMING HERE. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A CATALYST TYPE PROJECT ALONG THAT LINE. SO. THE QUESTION I END UP HAVING RELATES TOWARDS AND CITY ATTORNEY, THAT'S WHY I WAS MENTIONING TO YOU, RIGHT. THE CONSTRUCTION WHAT THERE WAS TWO THINGS THAT YOU HAVE PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT, AND THAT IS THAT DUNCANVILLE WOULD BE THE TAX SITUS FOR HIS CATERING, SO THAT ANY CATERING THAT WAS GENERATED WOULD BE ATTRIBUTABLE TO DUNCANVILLE, SO YOU COULD RECOUP SOME OF YOUR SALES TAX AND THAT ALL THE REMODELING EQUIPMENT AND IMPROVEMENT ELEMENTS COULD BE DESIGNATED TO BE HERE. SO FOR CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES, FOR SALES TAX. SO. SOME MONEY OR AND. AND OR MR. BARRERA'S THAT. SEEM WORKABLE. WHAT WOULD THAT WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN. WHAT WHAT YOU JUST WHAT YOU SAID I DON'T UNDERSTAND. WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN. TELL ME YOU'RE THE TAX SITE IS FOR SALES TAX GENERATED FROM ALL OF HIS CATERING OPERATIONS WOULD BE DESIGNATED THE TAX SITUS WOULD BE DUNCANVILLE. THAT'S A FOR SURE.

YEAH, THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S DONE HERE AND THEN IT'LL BE BOUGHT. HE PREPARED A MEAL OUT OF HIS DALLAS AND IT GOT CHARGED. SO THE TAX SITUS IS HERE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? THAT'S WHAT HE'S ASKING. I THIS WILL HAVE A FULL KITCHEN TO PREPARE IT. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT A CATERING. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO ANSWER THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S A FULL.

THIS IS A I KNOW IT'S A FULL I KNOW IT'S A RESTAURANT. I KNOW PEOPLE GO THERE AND EAT BUT NOT RESTAURANTS. ALSO HAVE CATERING BUSINESS ON THE SIDE, RIGHT. THAT'S NOT THEIR BUSINESS. BUT YES THEY COULD. YEAH. SO IF THEY CATER A YEAH THE POINT OF SALE WILL BE HERE FOR POINT OF SALE

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ON ALL OF THE POINT OF SALE FOR OPERATIONS FOR TAX SITUS WILL BE HERE. NOW THE POINT OF SALE WILL BE, WILL BE HERE IN DUNCANVILLE. OKAY. SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, RIGHT. TAX SITUS IS IN DUNCANVILLE. RIGHT. AND THEN ON IF, IF YOU SHIP THINGS IN AND BUY THEM IN FRISCO, SINCE I LIVE THERE AND THEY'RE SHIPPED AND INSTALLED HERE, YOU COULD INSTALL THOSE AND DESIGNATE BECAUSE IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION AND REMODELING CONSTRUCTION. DESIGNATE DUNCANVILLE TO RECEIVE THAT SALES TAX AS A SALES TAX SITUS ON NEW IMPROVEMENTS. YOU'D YOU'D I MEAN SO IF LIKE IF LIKE IF WE BOUGHT LET'S SAY WE BOUGHT SOME REFRIGERATION EQUIPMENT FROM WAXAHACHIE. THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE US TAX IN WAXAHACHIE. RIGHT. NOT IN DUNCANVILLE. YOU'RE TALKING THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A DESIGNATION TO HAVE IT DELIVERED AND DESIGNATED. HERE. WE DO IT WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION ALL THE TIME. I DON'T KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT, BUT, I MEAN, IF THERE'S A WAY. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO BUY MATERIALS FROM AROUND THE AROUND THE AREA, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, LIKE IF YOU GO TO HOME DEPOT, THE RIGHT TO DESIGNATE. WELL, HE'S NOT GOING TO GO TO HOME DEPOT. HE'S GOING TO HAVE A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, HE'S GOING TO BUY THAT STUFF, AND AN INSTALLER IS GOING TO BUY THAT STUFF. WELL, NOT A LOT OF STUFF COMES FROM HOME DEPOT. WE DO IT ALL THE TIME HERE. I MEAN, WE DO. I MEAN, LOTS OF STUFF THAT COMES FROM I CAN'T HELP YOU ANYMORE, OKAY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND. AND IT'S NOT MY JOB TO EDUCATE HIM. I UNDERSTAND. THE QUESTION THAT COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT HAS BROUGHT UP. I'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE THAT, SO I DON'T. I MEAN, MR. BURR, HAVE YOU DONE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO OR HOW TO HOW TO. OKAY. EXCUSE ME. I'M GOING TO ANSWER RIGHT NOW.

I'M GOING TO WELL, I'M GOING TO SHIFT GEARS BACK TO THE ATTORNEY. WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS A PLAN TO PUT A RESTAURANT HERE IN TOWN. DOES THIS QUESTION THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP BY COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT HAVE ANY BEARING ON WHETHER OR NOT OR IS THIS JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES? IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S A QUESTION. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.

IF IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT THEIR OPERATION IN DUNCANVILLE, CAN WE PROCEED WITH THE DISCUSSION? YES. OKAY. AND YOU CAN GET WITH THE ATTORNEY AFTERWARDS OR TOMORROW AND CLARIFY WHAT WHAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT RIGHT NOW. BUT I THINK FOR THE PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING WHAT WE WANT TO DO ON THIS PROJECT TONIGHT, I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON. ARE WE COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO PROCEED WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT, SUBJECT TO THOSE MINOR CHANGES? WELL, WE'LL FIND OUT WHEN WE GO TO VOTE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE ARE WE TOOK AN AGREEMENT THAT WENT BACK AND FORTH AND HE SIGNED IT. I'LL HAVE IT, SIGNED IT, BUT WE SIGNED IT AND APPROVED IT. ATTORNEYS LOOKED AT IT AND EVERYBODY LOOKED AT IT. AND IT'S SIGNED. AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS READY, THAT WE KNEW YOU HADN'T VOTED ON IT, BUT WE THOUGHT THAT LEGALLY, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS READY TO GO. SO OKAY, SO I'LL PUT A DOSE OF CUMBERSOME IN THIS SINCE MR. BULKY CAN HEAR US SUPPOSEDLY. HAS HE HEARD THE QUESTION THAT MR. MCBURNETT HAS BROUGHT UP AND THE ATTORNEYS DISCUSSED? AND IS HE IS HE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT HE'S HEARD TO WHERE HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES GOING FORWARD? CAN DID YOU HEAR ALL THAT? THE QUESTION IS, IF YOU THEY'RE WANTING ANY CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS BOUGHT TO BE PAID TAX HERE IN DUNCANVILLE.

I THOUGHT HAVE A RIGHT TO DO THAT. SO. I. WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD MAKE THE CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT THAT HAD BEEN RECOMMENDED, GIVE MR. BULKY AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE CHANGES IN WRITTEN FORM, PROVIDE US FEEDBACK AND THEN BRING IT BACK. AND HOPEFULLY WHEN WE BRING IT BACK, WE CAN PLACE IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE WON'T MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT IF THAT'S IF THAT'S OKAY. I JUST PUT THAT AS AN AS AN OPTION ON HOW TO PROCEED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MR. BORK IS COMFORTABLE. OKAY. WE HAVE TIME CONSTRAINTS ON CONTRACTS AND OTHER THINGS GOING ON. AND WE, WE I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE LIKE, WELL, WE GOT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON THE TABLE. SO LET ME GET TO ALL THE QUESTIONS AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS

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COUNCILMAN KOONTZ. BUT TAKE US BACK UP TO 50,000FT. SO. AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON HERE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT REVITALIZING DOWNTOWN, GETTING NEW RESTAURANTS IN THERE. THIS IS AN INVESTMENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CONSIDERABLE INVESTMENT. AND HE'S ASKING FOR A STRAIGHT GRANT, NO REIMBURSEMENT. IT SEEMS LIKE A, AT LEAST TO ME, A PRETTY GOOD INVESTMENT INTO OUR DOWNTOWN. WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE ENCINO RESTAURANT IS LOCATION IN OAK CLIFF. WE'VE BEEN THERE, AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE PLACES WHERE YOU SAY, MAN, I WISH WE HAD ONE OF THESE IN DUNCANVILLE. AND HERE IT IS. AND HE'S ALREADY SIGNED THE PAPERS. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ASKING QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT HADN'T EVEN ENTERED THEIR MINDS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE. ARE THESE THE KIND OF QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK, YOU KNOW, OTHER RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, IN DUNCANVILLE, ESPECIALLY ONES COMING IN TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I'VE NEVER HEARD IT. AND WE'RE GOING TO ITEM G, WHICH IS ANOTHER RESTAURANT. AND THE SAME QUESTION COULD CONCEIVABLY COME UP ON EVERY RESTAURANT THAT WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF US. SO I DON'T KNOW THE, THE EXACT RELEVANCY. IT'S UP TO YOU. IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU'RE REPRESENTING HIM. BUT I THINK HE NEEDS TO COMMENT. BUT OKAY, HE NEEDS TO STATE WHETHER HE WANTS TO GO FORWARD. OKAY. SO LET'S WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT, MR. KOONTZ. I YIELD THE FLOOR, I WAS INTERRUPTED, I'LL JUST YIELD THE FLOOR. THANK YOU, MISS GOOD.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I WANT TO SAY THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE INTERESTED IN REVITALIZING, BUT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WHEN AN APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR THIS SIGNIFICANT OF AMOUNT, AND I UNDERSTAND VACATION AND MUCH NEEDED THAT WE CAN KIND OF WORK THE SCHEDULE WHERE IT FIT FOR THE APPLICANT TO BE PRESENT, AND FOR US TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, ESPECIALLY AT A $300,000 REQUEST AMOUNT. AND THEN MY OTHER COMMENT, BEING COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT STAFF IS PRESENT AND THE INCLEMENT WEATHER AND WE WANT TO GET THEM HOME, I WOULD JUST ASK, MOVING FORWARD, THAT AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I DISCUSSED WITH THEM, THAT WE BE. INTENTIONAL OR PAY ATTENTION TO THE AVAILABLE BUDGET, BECAUSE THIS ONE SAYS. ONE 61,000,660.517 MILLION IS AVAILABLE. BUT BASED ON THE LAST ONE THAT WE JUST APPROVED, THE AVAILABLE AMOUNT SHOULD BE AROUND 1,000,644 167. SO JUST BE AWARE OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THE AVAILABLE AMOUNT FOR THE BUDGET. THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH AS FAR AS WHAT REMAINS, AS THE ITEMS ARE BEING APPROVED. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILWOMAN. CHERRY BROWN, THANK YOU. MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KOONTZ. WHAT IS PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT IS ONE THING. AND THEN WE KIND OF DEVIATED AND WENT SOMEWHERE TO WHAT IF? AND SO I, I JUST IT I GUESS IT CONCERNS ME WHEN WE HAVE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT COME IN AND WANT TO DO SOMETHING AND THEN WE GO THROUGH ALL THESE WHAT IF SCENARIOS. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT. AND SO I'D LIKE TO STICK WITH WHAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT AND NOT WHAT IF THEY DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT DOWN THE ROAD. COUNCILMAN PENNEBAKER. THANK YOU SIR. DIRECTOR BARRERA, YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THIS CONTRACT. I LIKE IT. I THINK IT PROVIDES US A LOT OF PROTECTIONS. WE'RE LOCKING THEM INTO TEN YEARS. THERE'S SOME CATCHES IN HERE THAT WE CAN CLAW BACK. IF THEY DON'T HONOR THESE THINGS IN HERE. SO I THINK WE'RE WE'VE GOT SOMETHING REALLY GOOD HERE. I THE FIRST PART OF COUNCIL MEMBER MATT BRUNETTE'S ITEMS THAT HE BROUGHT UP, I THINK THE SALES TAX IS SOMETHING THAT'S EASY. WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THE SECOND PART OF THAT ITEM, AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION ITEMS, THAT'S KIND OF A ONE TIME DEAL WHERE WE MIGHT 60, $70,000. AND THAT'S JUST GOING AT THE VERY HIGH END. AND AFTER THE REMODEL, DONE THE MATERIALS, THAT'S IT. THAT'S

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DONE. AND I THINK WE COULD DO THIS PRETTY EASILY BY JUST HAVING THAT SALES TAX AGREEMENT FOR THE CATERING CLAUSE OR WHATEVER WE'D CALL IT. AND I'M, I'M PRETTY HAPPY WITH THIS.

THAT'S ALL. COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT, THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. I'M NOT MAKING WHAT IFS OR ANY OR CHANGING ANYTHING THAT'S BEING DONE, BUT IT'S A I KNOW THERE'S SOME BUSINESSES THAT HAVEN'T DONE THIS THAT ARE IN DUNCANVILLE AND WE'RE NOT GETTING SALES TAX FROM THEM AND THAT LINE. AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS DONE. AND SO IT'S NOT ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN OVERALL I'M FINE WITH THIS THING. BUT BUT LET'S JUST LET'S MOVE FORWARD. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN PENNYBAKER. LET'S VOTE. TO. APPROVE. THANK YOU. ITEM FIVE G. DESIGN INCENTIVE GRANT SIX TWO GIRLS KITCHEN,

[5.G. Consider a resolution authorizing approval of incentive grants by the Duncanville Community & Economic Development Corporation (DCEDC) to Sistergirls' Kitchen, LLC in an amount not to exceed $6,000 for exterior signage for a building located at 106 and 108 North Cedar Ridge Drive, Duncanville, Texas 75116]

LLC. MR. BARRERA. YES. THANK YOU. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED. AND AT THE TIME THAT IT PRESENTED, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED BY A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS REGARDING SOME OF THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS BUILD OUT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS BUSINESS.

FOR THIS REQUEST WAS A GREASE TRAP. SO WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND WE HAVE RESOLVED THAT. THE SHORT STORY IS THAT THE GREASE TRAP IS NOW THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OWNER, AND THE OWNER WILL USE THOSE GRANT FUNDS TO PAY FOR THIS IMPROVEMENT. AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF THE SECOND GRANT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO DU WEST PROPERTIES. SO THAT SAID, THIS EVENING, WHAT YOU HAVE IS NOW THE ONLY REQUEST OF THE TWO REQUESTS LEFT. AND THAT'S FOR THE SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING, ON THE BUILDING AND ON THE POLE SIGN. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO THE DC EDC ON AUGUST 26TH, 2024. AND BOTH REQUESTS THAT WAS THE REQUEST FOR THE GREASE TRAP AND THE SIGNAGE WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. SINCE THEN AND SINCE THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD HERE AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL REGARDING THE GRANT REQUEST FOR THE GREASE TRAP AND THE SIGNAGE, WE'VE GONE BACK AND MADE THE RECORD STRAIGHT AND CLEAR WITH THE DC, EDC AS WELL AS WITH DUE WEST, AND HAVE SEEK LEGAL GUIDANCE FROM THE DC, DC, EDC ATTORNEY ON THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED FOR DUE WEST REGARDING THE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS ALLOWANCE. SO AGAIN, THAT SAID, WHAT THAT LEAVES US THEN IS THE GRANT REQUEST OR AN APPLICATION FOR THE WALL SIGNAGE. AND THERE'S AN ILLUSTRATION OF THE WALL SIGNAGE AND THEN THE SIGNAGE ON THE ON THE POLE FOR THE STREET. THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT'S NOW BEEN OPENED FOR OFFICIALLY TWO WEEKS. PRIOR TO THAT, THEY WERE BUSY FULFILLING CATERING ORDERS. THEY WERE FILLING MANY, MANY ORDERS FOR THANKSGIVING. IN THE TWO WEEKS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY WELL RECEIVED AND THEIR SALES EXPECTATIONS HAVE SURPASSED ANYTHING THAT THEY THOUGHT WOULD BE WITHIN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS. SO IT IS AN INCREDIBLE STORY, AN IMPRESSIVE STORY, AND IT'S JUST BEEN A VERY LONG JOURNEY, RENEE SHARED WITH ME. AND SHE'S HERE THIS EVENING THAT IT'S TAKING ABOUT A YEAR TO OPEN THIS FACILITY, AND WE JUST WANT TO USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT TO CLOSE THE MATTER, APPROVE THE SIGN AND OR AT LEAST PRESENT THIS AND HOPE THAT HER SIGN REQUEST GETS APPROVAL SO SHE CAN MOVE ON. RENEE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? NO, SIR. SO THIS ITEM IS SOLELY ON THE THERE.

THIS ITEM IS SOLELY ON THE SIGNED GRANT. CORRECT? OKAY THEN NO LONGER THE GREASE TRAP. OKAY, THEN I WON'T I WON'T TRAIL BACK ON THAT. SINCE YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S OFF THE THAT'S OFF THAT

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PLATE. NO PUN INTENDED. OKAY, SO NO, I'M I'M EXCITED. I'VE HAD SOME SOME OF YOUR FOOD, SOME THAT SOME THINGS I'VE NEVER EATEN BEFORE AND DIDN'T THINK I EVER WOULD. YOU. NO, NO, THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE I DON'T WANT TO GET IN OXTAIL. THAT'S IT, THAT'S IT? YES. I CAN, I'LL RECOMMEND ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T WANT TO DARE TO GO OUT AND TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. TRY OXTAIL.

IT WAS IT WAS VERY MEMORABLE. NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, WE HAVE COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN CHERRY BROWN. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. BECAUSE CHRISTMAS MY HUSBAND THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO COOK, I DON'T COOK. AND THEN CHRISTMAS EVE, WE GOT AN INVITE TO A HOME THAT HAD CATERED SOME OF YOUR FOOD. SO MY HUSBAND WAS HAPPY AND I WAS HAPPY. THE FOOD WAS DELICIOUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN KOONTZ. YOU HAVE CHITLINS. THAT'S YOUR ORDER. SPECIAL ORDER. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE, THEN. WE GOT. WE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL GET TO THEM.

YEAH, I GOT TO GET MY SECOND. THERE IT IS. ALRIGHT. NO FURTHER COMMENTS, MR. MCBURNETT. RENEE, I'M VERY GLAD YOU'RE HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. PLEASE VOTE. HERE WE GO.

UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY ITEM FIVE H. DC,

[5.H. Consider a Resolution authorizing approval of incentive grants by the Duncanville Community & Economic Development Corporation (DCEDC) to Ferrante Hair Studio in an amount not to exceed $10,500 for a building located at 807 S. Main Street, Duncanville, Texas 75137.]

DC DESIGN INCENTIVE GRANT FOR FERRANTE HAIR STUDIO. MR. BORO. YES. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS THE LAST GRANT APPLICATION FOR THIS EVENING. THIS IS FERRANTE HAIR STUDIO. THE ADDRESS IS 708 SOUTH MAIN STREET. WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY SINCE AUGUST 2002. THE REQUEST IS FOR LANDSCAPING IN THE AMOUNT OF 10,000 AND $500. IT'S THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON MAIN STREET, HIGH VISIBLE STREET. A LOT OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. WE TOOK A HARD LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPING AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS VIABLE. LANDSCAPING TOLERANT TO THE TEXAS HEAT. THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING IS PERENNIALS, WHICH IS WHICH WILL BE INSTALLED IN THE FALL. EXCUSE ME. LET ME GO BACK. THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING IS PERENNIALS. THE PLANTINGS WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE SPRING. THERE IS AN EXISTING IRRIGATION SYSTEM THAT WILL SERVICE THESE PLANTS TO ENSURE THEIR LIVELIHOOD. AND THIS GRANT APPLICATION WAS PRESENTED TO THE DC EDC ON OCTOBER 28TH, 2024. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PRESENTATION AND THE DELIBERATION, THE DC EDC UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY A VOTE OF 5 TO 0. FOR THIS GRANT. WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS JUST PICTURES OF THE EXISTING CONDITION OF THE FACILITY AND THE LANDSCAPING. NICE LANDSCAPING, BUT JUST THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE, MORE COLOR, MORE LIFE. AND THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE. JUST PHOTOSHOP OF WHAT THE LANDSCAPING WILL LOOK LIKE ONCE IT'S INSTALLED.

QUESTIONS. COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN KOONTZ. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2002. YOU SAID. THAT'S CORRECT. ANY IDEA? I KNOW IT'S USUALLY IN THE APPLICATION, BUT AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THEIR OWN INVESTMENT INTO THEIR BUSINESS OVER THE YEARS. IS THERE ANY NUMBER THAT MIGHT BE ATTACHED TO THAT? I YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK FOR MR. FERRANTE. I ASKED THEM TO COME TO ME, AND HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU. THANK YOU. COME ON. OVER HERE. OVER HERE. SORRY. THAT'S THE FIRST REQUEST I'VE HEARD. I DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU GUYS. GOOD. COULD YOU PLEASE IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE, SIR GIULIANO FERRANTE? THANK YOU. YEAH, WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2002. SO ALL THE COSTS AND EXPENSES FOR THAT BUILDING, AND WE'VE INCURRED. SO THIS IS OUR

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FIRST GRANT REQUEST, YOU KNOW, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO. AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY KIND OF FOLLOW UP QUESTION. HAD YOU EVER ASKED FOR ANY KIND OF GRANT REQUESTS, ANY KIND OF SUPPORT FROM THE CITY? NO, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AND I'M THE ONLY ONE, SO I DON'T WELL, I JUST I DO WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE KEPT YOUR BUSINESS HERE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU MUST HAVE MADE SOME KIND OF INVESTMENT OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN THERE. YEAH. WE HAVE. IT WAS THE INITIAL INVESTMENT WAS WAS SIGNIFICANT JUST BECAUSE IT WAS A IT WAS BASICALLY A COMPLETE REMODEL. SO IT WAS IT WAS A LOT OF WORK. PROBABLY TOOK ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS TO GET TO GET WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE. SO JUST LIKE ANY BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LONG TERM INVESTMENT AND IT'S ONE OF TWO SALONS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. OBVIOUSLY, THIS BEING OUR STAPLE LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST ONE WE HAD. SO WE'VE BEEN PRETTY HAPPY. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES THERE ON THAT MAIN STREET CORRIDOR. AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE BUSINESSES. BUT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE SOMEONE COMING TO US AND SAYING, HEY, I'D LIKE TO DO SOME BEAUTIFICATION HERE. AND I MEAN, THE AREA THERE'S BEEN THERE'S BEEN SOME SIGNIFICANT STEPS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TAKEN, YOU KNOW, TO BEAUTIFY MAIN STREET. AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ADD TO THAT. YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER COMMENTS I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SECOND IT, BUT I'M ALSO GOING TO MAKE THE COMMENT, THANK YOU. BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DO IT. WE CAN GET THE NEXT ONE TO DO IT. MAYBE WE CAN GET THE NEXT ONE TO DO IT AND IT'S JUST A GOOD SIGN. SO THANK YOU. OKAY SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN KOONTZ, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT. PLEASE VOTE. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM FIVE I CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, MISS TAYLOR.

[5.I. Consider appointments to fill vacancies on Boards and Commissions including Zoning Board of Adjustment, City Planning & Zoning Commission, Duncanville Community and Economic Development Corporation Board (DCEDC), Duncanville Neighborhood Vitality Commission, Library Advisory Board, and Multicultural Commission.]

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL HELD TWO DAYS OF INTERVIEWS FOR TO FILL VACANCIES ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO THE APPOINTMENTS ARE FOR CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR A TWO YEAR TERM.

JARRETT DAVIS, ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, ALTERNATE TERM FOR TWO YEARS. STANLEY STAN SMITH, LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD FOR TO FILL A ONE YEAR VACANCY LAURA TREVINO. MULTICULTURAL COMMISSION TO FILL ONE YEAR VACANCY IS VANESSA GRAZIANO AND PAULA ROWLAND. D.C, EDC FOR A TWO YEAR TERM. CAROLYN THOMPSON AND NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY TO FILL A ONE YEAR TERM IS LATONYA BANKS. MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SELECTIONS IDENTIFIED BY MISS TAYLOR BY COUNCILMAN MCBURNETT, SECONDED BY MISS GOODIN. PLEASE VOTE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NOW

[4.F. Consider a Resolution awarding RFQ 24-0031 Pre-Qualified Engineering and Architectural Services 3-Year Pool and authorizing indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity master service agreements with the firms outlined in Exhibit A to provide engineering and architectural services to the City of Duncanville from January 7, 2025, through January 7, 2028, not exceeding a total contract amount per firm of $300,000.00 over the three years.]

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM FIVE J. THAT WAS ADDED. OUT HERE. CITY MANAGER WHERE ARE WE. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE FOR F FROM CONSENT ITEMS TO ITEM FIVE J. AND SPEAKING ON THIS IS MR. MATT BRYANT. EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL MATT BRYANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Y'ALL HAD SOME QUESTIONS. SO WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT OUT HERE AND ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. MR. KOONTZ. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO YEAH. AND THIS IS MORE FOR THE COUNCIL. MATT, I APPRECIATE YOU STICKING AROUND. NO PROBLEM. BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY POSITION ON THE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES AND JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T PUT OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE WE LIMIT OUR OPTIONS. AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, EVERY PROJECT IS UNIQUE. AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DIDN'T RESPOND. NOW THAT MAYBE WHEN WE PUT A CERTAIN

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PROJECT OUT THERE, THAT THERE'S MAYBE A FIRM THAT'S INTERESTED IN HELPING US DESIGN THAT AND THEY MIGHT BE THE RIGHT FIRM. AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF MY MAIN JUST THOUGHTS BEHIND THAT. AND SO I MEAN, IF THERE ANY REASSURANCES THAT CAN BE GIVEN ME, THEN I'LL BE FINE. I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE IT ANYWAYS, BUT THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS SURROUNDING THAT WITH THE ENGINEERING SERVICES. THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. YOU KNOW, YOUR EXPLANATION I THINK MAKES PERFECT SENSE, BUT IT WAS MORE ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES. YES. SO FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES, AGAIN, ANYTHING OF A SIGNIFICANT SIZE OR VALUE AS FAR AS A PROJECT GOES WILL BE INDEPENDENTLY RF REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION. SO ANYTHING RELATED TO A MAJOR CONSTRUCTION OVERHAUL, MAJOR BUILDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WILL BE INDEPENDENTLY RFQ. SO WITH YOUR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN SERVICES, I MEAN THAT THAT COULD COME IN, I MEAN EVEN WELL UNDER $250,000 DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WANTING AGAIN, WHERE IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE US TO GO OUT AND LOOK ANYWHERE ELSE, OR TO PUT IT OUT AGAIN AS A AS AN RFQ. OKAY. CITY MANAGER HAS A COMMENT. COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THERE'S ANY NUMBER OF ESPECIALLY ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS OR STUFF THAT PUBLIC WORKS DEALS WITH. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE PROJECTS THAT WE TALK ABOUT. THERE'S EVEN THE STUFF THAT YOU SAW TONIGHT THAT ACTUALLY HAD RENDERINGS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AMOUNTS THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN $250,000, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AMOUNTS THAT ARE, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, MUCH LESS THAN $50,000. BUT THE PROBLEM THAT WE RUN INTO IS IF WE HAVE ALREADY USED THE FIRM AND THE AMOUNT IS MORE THAN 50, 50,000, YOU KNOW, SO FOR INSTANCE, IF WE USE XYZ ENGINEERING FOR A PROJECT AND WE'VE ALREADY PAID THEM $75,000, I CAN'T HIRE THEM FOR 5000. AND SO TO DO ALSO THE ARCHITECTURAL BECAUSE IT'S EXCEEDED THE $50,000 CAP WITHOUT COMING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. SO THIS PROCESS IS REALLY DESIGNED TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENTLY.

YOU'LL NEVER YOU'LL NEVER HAVE US GO IN AND JUST DOING RENDERINGS IN ARCHITECTURAL PLANS FOR ANY LARGE CITY PROJECT OR ANYTHING AT ALL LIKE THAT. IT'S MORE ABOUT THOSE SMALLER TYPE THINGS ACTUALLY GIVING US THE WIGGLE ROOM SO THAT WE CAN BRING YOU THE STUFF THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING TO SEE WHAT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS LOOK LIKE. AND, AND WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, WATER PROJECT OR, YOU KNOW, I KNOW MATT WANTS TO BUILD A NEW WATER TANK. AT SOME POINT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING YOU SOMETHING OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND WHERE THAT WOULD GO. THOSE ARE RELATIVELY SMALL, INEXPENSIVE THINGS. BUT AGAIN, IF THE FIRM THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO UTILIZE IS ALREADY EXCEEDED THE $50,000 THRESHOLD, THEN WE'RE NOT ABLE TO USE THEM. SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THIS. YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THIS IS OVER MY HEAD, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD RECENTLY A COUPLE OF PROJECTS WHERE WE PUT OUT AN RFQ AND WE GOT FIRMS THAT WE PROBABLY NEVER WOULD HAVE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THAT RESPONDED TO THOSE. AND SO I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATIONS. I'LL AGAIN, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE AND I'LL TRUST WE'RE NOT GOING TO LIMIT OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THE RIGHT FIRM AT THE RIGHT TIME. NO SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCILMAN KOONTZ, SECONDED BY MR. MCBURNETT. PLEASE VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL.

I'M GOING TO MOVE. I'M GOING TO MOVE IT UP TO. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO JUMP AHEAD A LITTLE BIT

[6.F. Monthly Financial Report as of November 30, 2024]

HERE AND GO TO ITEM SIX F FOR REASONS THAT WILL NOT BE MENTIONED.

LOOK HOW QUICK HE DID THAT. MIS. OTAY. WELL GOOD EVENING. PLEASANT SURPRISE. SO THANK YOU.

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SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE NOVEMBER FINANCIAL REPORT. NOVEMBER IS THE SECOND MONTH OF OUR FISCAL YEAR. SO GIVE YOU AN ALL FUND SUMMARY HERE. WE HAVE COLLECTED $6.2 MILLION FOR THE FIRST TWO MONTHS. THE YEAR TO DATE INTEREST INCOME IS 527,000. SO THE BENCHMARK FOR TWO MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR COMES TO 16.7%. BUT ACTUALLY WE'VE RECEIVED 7.1%. AND THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR AS MORE OF THE FUNDS START TO COME IN AFTER THE NEW YEAR. SO ALL FUNDS, EXPENSES, WE'VE EXPENDED 3.8 MILLION. THAT IS 7.7% OF THE BENCHMARK. SO LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND, NOT A WHOLE LOT AGAIN HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. FOR THE FIRST TWO MONTHS, GENERAL REVENUES ARE AT 6.6%. MOST OF THAT PROPERTY TAX WILL START COMING IN HERE LAST MONTH AND THIS MONTH OF DECEMBER AND JANUARY, WE'VE RECEIVED 171,000 IN INTEREST INCOME. THAT IS SLIGHTLY LESS THAN WHAT WE'VE RECEIVED AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR. SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME OF THE INTEREST RATES COME DOWN. ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, WE EXPENDED 10.2% OF THE BUDGET TO SHOW YOU HERE AGAIN THE TABLE VIEW WHICH YOU HAVE IN YOUR REPORT THERE. WE'RE REALLY TRENDING AHEAD ON THE PERMITS AND LICENSES AREA FOR 22% OF THE BUDGET, AS WELL AS CHARGES FOR SERVICES, WHICH INCLUDES MEMBERSHIPS AND EMS FEES. THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ON THE EXPENSES, AGAIN, 10.919% OF THE BUDGET AT THIS TIME. AND JUST SHOWING YOU HOW WE'RE DOING FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT AND A FUND BALANCE STANDPOINT. SO AGAIN, WE'RE STILL IN OUR FY 24 AUDIT. SO THESE BALANCES ARE UNAUDITED AT THIS TIME. BUT IT SHOWS YOU THAT WE'RE STILL WELL ABOVE THAT 150 DAY MAXIMUM. SO THE UTILITY FUND THE NEXT LARGEST FUND OF THE CITY YEAR TO DATE WE'VE COLLECTED 2.1 MILLION. THAT'S 9.3% OF THE BUDGET. OUR REVENUES ARE ONE MONTH BEHIND FOR THE EXPENSES.

WE'VE EXPENDED 8.4% OF THE BUDGET AND 1.1 MILLION OF THAT REALLY TOWARDS OUR DALLAS WATER UTILITIES FOR OUR WATER, AND THEN TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY FOR OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT. AND THEN JUST SHOWING AGAIN THE FUND BALANCE IN THE WATER SEWER FUND HERE. WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL THERE. WE HAVE OVER 150 DAYS IN RESERVE. AND THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS. COUNCIL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I SAFE. ALL RIGHT. THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO HANDLE THE

[6.A. Council briefing on proposed Ordinance relating to Automotive Repair, Council to provide feedback for further future review.]

REMAINING ITEMS ON THE STAFF AND BOARD REPORT. SO WE'LL START WITH ITEM A. THANK YOU MAYOR AND ALEX IF YOU COULD HELP ME OUT I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO EXPLAIN TO COUNCIL. I'VE BEEN UP AND DOWN A LOT FROM THE DAIS THIS EVENING. MORE THAN NORMAL. AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, IT'S BELOW FREEZING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE HAD A PRIVATE WATER MAIN THAT BROKE A LITTLE BIT AGO, BUT THEY STILL RESPONDED. WE HAVE SPLIT CREWS.

WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, OUR ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, BOTH HERE THIS EVENING, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING SPLIT SHIFTS. WE'VE ALSO HAD A SITUATION LATE TONIGHT WHERE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD TO RESPOND TO HELP SOMEBODY OUT IN A SITUATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO OUR CREWS ARE OUT ON THE STREETS BUSY TONIGHT WITH COLD TEMPERATURES. AND SO JUST PLEASE KEEP THEM IN YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. AND AS THEY'RE DEALING WITH THE SITUATION THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, THIS FIRST ONE IS A PROPOSED ORDINANCE RELATING TO AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR. AND I ESPECIALLY WANT TO RECOGNIZE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES OFFICER JOSEPH SCOTT, WHO ACTUALLY HAS SAT HERE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE EVENING. THIS EVENING. I'M SO PROUD OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES OFFICERS, AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES OFFICERS AND JOSEPH PACHECO HADN'T COME TO THE PODIUM. AND IF YOU WANT TO COME TO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY RECOGNIZED IS THEY'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER LEGISLATION THAT WOULD HELP THEM IN THE WORK THAT THEY DO RELATIVE TO ENFORCEMENT OF THE AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SHOPS THAT ARE AROUND TOWN. AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY KEEP FINDING. SO, MR. SCOTT ACTUALLY WROTE THE ORIGINAL DRAFT OF THIS LANGUAGE AND PULLED IT FROM EXPERIENCES I THINK THAT HE HAS HAD IN THE PAST, AS WELL AS WHAT YOU SAW THAT YOU FELT LIKE WAS IN NEED. AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TOOK THAT INFORMATION. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THIS OR ANYTHING TONIGHT, AND THERE'S QUITE A FEW PIECES, I THINK, THAT NEED

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ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION AND THOUGHT, TO BE HONEST. BUT BUT, JOSEPH, MAYBE IF YOU COULD JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE SEEING AND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

ABSOLUTELY. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU ALL. OF THE COUNCIL HAS WORKED.

OKAY. IS THAT BETTER? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME BEFORE YOU, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. AND LIKE I SAID, MR. HAGER, WHO'S HELPED US A LOT AS IT RELATES TO THE LEGISLATION, THE PURPOSE IN DRAFTING LEGISLATION AS IT RELATES TO VEHICLES IS BECAUSE OF SEVERAL FACTORS ONE, THE ESTHETICS. IT LOOKS BAD COMING FROM DALLAS. I RETIRED FROM DALLAS AFTER 24 YEARS, SO I'VE SEEN MY SHARE OF WHAT INOPERABLE VEHICLES CAN DO THE QUOTE UNQUOTE PROVERBIAL CHOP SHOP, IF YOU WILL, THE EFFECTS THEY HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY. I HEARD FROM THE CONSTITUENTS, I HEARD FROM COWORKERS, FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AS WELL AS MY OWN COWORKERS. THE OTHER CODE OFFICERS. AND IT MAKES IT HARD TO PRETTY MUCH IMPROVE UPON THE ESTHETICS OF A COMMUNITY. WHEN THE MAJOR CORRIDORS ENTERING DUNCANVILLE, YOU SEE VEHICLES.

IF YOU COME FROM HIGHWAY 67, YOU SEE VEHICLES, YOU COME FROM I-20, YOU SEE VEHICLES. IF YOU COME DOWN WHEATLAND, WHEN YOU GET TO THE CORNER OF OUR BUILDING, WHEATLAND IN MAIN, IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREET NEXT TO THE COFFEE SHOP, VEHICLES AND HOPEFULLY WITH AN ORDINANCE PASSED, WE CAN ADDRESS SEVERAL FACTORS ONE, THOSE VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT RUNNING. TWO, THOSE VEHICLES THAT ARE BEING MODIFIED. SO BASICALLY THEY'RE TAKING ONE VEHICLE, TAKING THE PARTS OF THAT VEHICLE, ATTACHING IT TO ANOTHER VEHICLE AND CREATING A WHOLE NEW VEHICLE. OR IT COULD BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS TAKING ONE PART FROM A VEHICLE, PUTTING IT ON ANOTHER VEHICLE JUST TO GET IT RUNNING. THAT'S GREAT. HOWEVER, THE VEHICLE THAT YOU TOOK THE PARTS FROM, YOU LEAVE IT RIGHT THERE. SO NOW YOU'RE CREATING MORE LITTER, MORE TRASH, MORE URBAN BLIGHT. AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE WANT TO ADDRESS. ALSO, THE PARKING OF THE VEHICLES. FREEMAN HERE. I HATE TO PUT THE MAN OUT THERE, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. HE HAS A YARD, IF YOU WILL, A PROPERTY FULL OF MERCEDES AND JAGUARS, SOME RUNNING, SOME NOT. BUT WHAT HAPPENS? HE PARKS THEM ON GRASS. WELL, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT AND I LEARNED THIS WORKING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. THOSE VEHICLES LEAK FLUID OIL ANTIFREEZE TRANSMISSION FLUID WINDSHIELD WIPER FLUID. IT GETS INTO THE GROUNDWATER. MAKES IT THAT MUCH HARDER TO PURIFY THE WATER BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE WHEN IT RAINS, IT WASHES OFF INTO THE STORM WATER DRAINS, SO IT MAKES IT HARDER TO PURIFY. THESE GUYS WILL GO TELL THEM, HEY, MAN, COULD YOU DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR VEHICLES? WE GET THAT SOMETIME.

OF COURSE. THEY USE THE COLORFUL LANGUAGE. THAT'S OKAY. BUT I BELIEVE, AND I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU WITH WITH TOO MANY DETAILS, BUT I BELIEVE WITH SOME TYPE OF ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS THESE VEHICLES, TO CLEAN THEM UP, TO GET THEM AWAY FROM HERE. THOSE VEHICLES THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON, THEY SHOULDN'T EXCEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT. AND YOU NEED TO HAVE WORK ORDERS ON EVERY ONE OF THEM, AND YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW US WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO GET THIS VEHICLE OFF YOUR PROPERTY UP AND RUNNING. THEN FROM THERE, WE'RE GOOD. I BELIEVE THAT WILL ALSO ATTRACT MORE BUSINESSES AND MORE PEOPLE THAT WILL WANT TO MOVE HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING, MAYOR. AND MAY MAYOR, IF I CAN. SO THIS 14 PAGE ORDINANCE THAT I NEED EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO READ, WORD FOR WORD IS ALL NEW. THIS IS NOT A RED LINE VERSION. THIS ENTIRE 14 PAGES WOULD BE NEW IN THE CODE. SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED YOU TO LOOK AT IT. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, I WANTED YOU TO HEAR FIRSTHAND FROM FROM JOSEPH AND MR. SCOTT, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU STAYING TONIGHT AND YOU STAYING TONIGHT TO SHARE THIS I COUNCIL, I ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW I LITERALLY HAVE A LIST OF 20. IT'S EXACTLY 20 ORDINANCES THAT STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT YOU DO THIS YEAR. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. IT'S THESE TYPES OF THINGS. NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES THEMSELVES HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE

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OTHERS. BUT THERE'S A LOT TO DIG INTO AND WORK THROUGH WITH THIS, INCLUDING THE REGISTRY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES IS SUGGESTING. I, YOU KNOW, I THINK STAFF WORKLOAD, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO THERE'S A LOT TO WORK THROUGH HERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO WORKSHOP THIS. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS. BUT IT IS EXCITING THAT WE CAN START TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND PLAN FOR THIS. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. WELL, THE GREAT THING, CITY MANAGER AND I STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS A LONG TIME AGO BECAUSE HE RECOGNIZED THE OBVIOUS ONES.

YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THE ONES THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, BUT THEY'RE HIDDEN FROM PUBLIC VIEW MORE OR LESS BECAUSE THEY'RE ON SIDE STREETS, BUT THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF THEM IN TOWN WHERE THEY'VE NOT ONLY PUSHED THE VEHICLES ONTO THEIR UNIMPROVED SURFACES, BUT THEY'VE PUSHED THEM ON TO PUBLIC STREETS. THEY'VE ALSO PUSHED THEM ONTO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, NEIGHBORING VACANT LOTS. AND MOST OF THESE CARS HAVEN'T OPERATED IN YEARS, MAYBE EVEN DECADES. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF RESOURCES AND WHAT IT TAKES TO START WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, AND TO GO OUT AND TAKE ACTION ON ONE OF THEM AND THE FOLLOW UP THAT OCCURS AND, YOU KNOW, IT BEING IN DALLAS, YOU KNOW, THE FOLLOW UP IS A TREMENDOUS TO THE POINT OF WRITING TICKETS, GOING TO COURT, TAKING ACTION, TOWING VEHICLES.

THAT'S ONE ONE OF THEM. AND WE'VE GOT PROBABLY IN EXCESS OF 15 TO MAYBE AS MANY 20 IN THIS CITY RIGHT NOW THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF ANY ORDINANCE THAT EXPEDITES THAT PROCESS TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN FINALLY DEAL WITH IT WITHOUT TAKING ALL THE RESOURCES AWAY FROM FROM NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, BECAUSE IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING. NOT TO MENTION, OFTENTIMES THE POLICE HAVE TO BE INVOLVED, AS YOU KNOW, AS WELL. AND SO JUST IF WE CAN MINIMIZE THAT AND WE CAN START TO HAVE AN IMPACT WITHOUT JUST SHUTTING DOWN OUR OPERATIONS, WHAT WE FOCUS ON THIS, I'M EXCITED. COUNCILMAN KOONTZ. SO, MR. SCOTT, SO IT'S 10:00. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S 10:00. I'M TIRED. HONESTLY, I WAS KIND OF STARTING TO CHECK OUT, BUT YOU COMPLETELY WOKE ME UP. I'M LIKE, THIS IS A BRAND NEW MEETING FOR ME. I MEAN, I CAN'T I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN, YOU KNOW? FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR BEING A POINT OF CONTACT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH POLICY UP HERE, RIGHT? BUT SOMEWHERE OUT THERE, SOMEONE'S GOT TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY. RIGHT. AND THESE BUSINESSES AND, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ALWAYS WHERE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET RID OF PEOPLE. WE WANT COMPLIANCE. WE WANT THEM, YOU KNOW, IF AND THERE ARE SOME AUTOMOTIVE BUSINESSES IN DUNCANVILLE THAT, I MEAN, THEY WOULD I MEAN, THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT AND EVEN IN THIS DRAFT. BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU TO BE OUT THERE MAKING CONTACT WITH THE BUSINESSES. I MEAN, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THAT. THIS I WAS READING THROUGH IT AND I DID READ THROUGH EVERY WORD OF IT ALREADY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE MOBY DICK MARATHON THE OTHER NIGHT, AND THIS WAS ALMOST MORE EXCITING THAN THAT. BELIEVE IT OR NOT. SO THESE ARE AND I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT THIS IS KIND OF NEW LEGISLATION HERE, SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER. AND THAT'S THIS WILL BE KIND OF LANDMARK LEGISLATION FOR THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, BECAUSE WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS. EVEN, YOU KNOW, I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED AT OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, THERE ARE YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE ALLOWED USES FOR DIFFERENT KINDS OF AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR BUSINESSES.

AND THIS EVEN FILLS A LOT OF GAPS THERE. AND SO YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN THANK YOU. AND I LOOK FORWARD, YOU KNOW, TO US AS A COUNCIL BEING ABLE TO GO THROUGH THIS. I HAD JUST 1 OR 2 QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, IT TALKS ABOUT THAT. SO THIS WILL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DIRECTOR.

IT SAID WHO WOULD BE THE DIRECTOR THAT WOULD THAT BE YOU OR THAT WOULD BE MATT. AND THEN OF COURSE, MY TWO SUPERIORS, MATT, AS WELL AS SHOT HERE. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN SECTION 13, IT TALKS ABOUT FINE. AND IT SAID, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY IN VIOLATION SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO A FINE NOT TO EXCEED $500. AND THEN IT HAS IN PARENTHESES $2,000. AND SO IS THERE SOME FURTHER EXPLANATION NEEDED THERE. OR IS THAT POTENTIALLY A I PUT IT IN, I PUT IN THE AMOUNT OF $500. AND THOSE ARE HYPOTHETICAL AMOUNTS. AND THE REASON WHY I DID THAT 500 AND THEN PARENTHESES 2000, A RANGE BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE VIOLATION, THE AMOUNT OF VIOLATIONS, HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE HAD TO GO OUT THERE AND ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR PARTY, JUST DIFFERENT VARIATIONS, DIFFERENT FACTORS AS TO WHY MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE A RANGE AND EVERY

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VIOLATION WITHIN 24 HOURS IS A NEW A NEW VIOLATION. I BELIEVE IT SAYS SO. OKAY. AND SO MAYBE YOU'RE RECOMMENDING WE KIND OF HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THOSE NUMBERS SHOULD BE AT SOME POINT. WE CAN'T SET A FINE. ONLY A JUDGE CAN DO THAT. SO WE HAVE TO SET THE MAXIMUM RANGE.

DEPENDING ON THE VIOLATION, YOU CAN FINE UP TO $2,000 FOR AN ORDINANCE VIOLATION OF ITS HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE. SO LIKE LEAKING OIL, GAS, THAT'S $2,000. FINE. MAYBE AN ESTHETIC IS ONLY A $500 FINE, BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT RANGE. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU NEED TO THE REASON THAT THE MANAGER WANTS YOU TO READ THIS IS THERE'S A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, BECAUSE JOSEPH AND I CAN WRITE ALL THE ORDINANCES IN THE WORLD. BUT IF JOE AND I CANNOT DO ALL THE WORK, SOMEONE HAS TO ENFORCE IT. SO THERE'S CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS BEHIND THIS. SO AND REGISTRATION AND CLERK AND ALL THOSE THINGS. AND WE JOSEPH AND I WROTE THIS. SO IT'S AS BROAD AND AS REGULATORY AS IT CAN BE. BUT THERE'S A COST TO THAT TOO. AND SO I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO STRIKE A BALANCE, IF YOU WILL, SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT WE'LL WE'LL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT US TO DO AND DO IT THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE. BUT IN ORDER TO BE REALLY EFFECTIVE, WE NEED TO HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO ENFORCE IT, BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE JOSEPH, AND HE MAY NEED ANOTHER JOSEPH TO GO OUT AND DO THIS CODE ENFORCEMENT. SO THAT'S WHY WE WROTE IT AS BROADLY AS POSSIBLE. THIS IS THE MAXIMUM WHAT WE FEEL IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT TO GET IT CLEANED UP. AND SO YOU MAY WANT TO APPROACH THIS IN IN SOME LARGER BITES AND NOT TRY TO SWALLOW THE WHOLE THING AT ONCE. SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED YOUR HOMEWORK. AND WE NEED YOUR INPUT ON HOW MUCH YOU WANT US TO DO AND WHAT THE COST OF THAT WILL BE AS YOU MOVE FORWARD. SO, COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN. GOOD.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SIMILAR AS COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE THIS PREVIOUS CODE OFFICER MYSELF. I UNDERSTAND THE PARKING ON UNIMPROVED SURFACES. I UNDERSTAND THE ABANDONED VEHICLES. I UNDERSTAND THE INOPERABLE VEHICLES. I UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'RE A BLIGHT TO THE COMMUNITY AND HOW YOU HAVEN'T HAD ENFORCEMENT ON. ARE THE LEGISLATION TO ENFORCE IT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND, HENCE PROBABLY THE REASON WHY WE HAVE SO MANY VIOLATORS. I SEE THIS BEING A LOT OF OURS, BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE YOUR HANDS FULL AND CITY MANAGER, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT THAT, PLEASE LET US KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS AN ISSUE IN OUR CITY, TO PUT IT MILDLY. SO I'M ALL FOR IT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN PENEBAKER. AGAIN. WELL DONE.

THANK YOU SIR. EXCELLENT. JUST WAS THERE A BLUEPRINT OR FRAMEWORK YOU USED FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT YOU LEANED INTO WITH THIS? THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT ALSO THE CITY OF FARMERS BRANCH, IN WHICH I WORKED THERE FOR FOUR YEARS BEFORE COMING HERE. AND THEN JUST A LOT THROUGH EXPERIENCE, THE WORDING, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF PULLING FROM DIFFERENT RESOURCES, SUCH AS THE CITIES AND THE MUNICIPALITIES. I JUST AFTER THAT I JUST NAMED, BUT JUST PUTTING IT TOGETHER BASED ON THOSE FACTORS, BASED ON WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED, BASED ON WHAT I SEE DAILY. AND OF COURSE, THANK GOD FOR MR. HAGER. BUT HE CALLS HIM. IT HAPPENED. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE EASY READING, SO I'M SURE IT WAS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO PUT TOGETHER THAN TO READ. SO THANK Y'ALL BOTH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COUNCILMAN KOONTZ? THANK YOU MAYOR. AND I DON'T SAY THIS TOO OFTEN, BUT THANK YOU, MR. HAGER AS WELL.

BUT YEAH, SO THIS DEALS MAINLY WITH BECAUSE I NOTICED THE LANGUAGE IN THERE ON THE PREMISES A LOT. SO THIS WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE US MAINLY DEALS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES OR CODE ISSUES ON THE PROPERTY. SO THERE'S A WHOLE SEPARATE ISSUE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE STREET THAT THIS ISN'T DEALING WITH. OKAY. IS THAT ONE OF THE 20 THAT YOU HAVE ON THERE IS SOME CROSSOVER BECAUSE WE WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CASES THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY SUED PROPERTY OWNERS FOR BASICALLY PUTTING THEIR CARS OUT IN THE STREET AND REPAIRING THEM LIKE SHADE TREE MECHANIC, WHICH IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE. BUT HE WAS REALLY RUNNING A BUSINESS OUT OF

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HIS HOUSE, AND WE ENDED UP SHUTTING THAT DOWN BEFORE DOUG GOT HERE. AND SO THIS IS REALLY AIMED AT MORE OF OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE BUSINESSES THAT THAT HAVE RESTORATION, SALVATION OF VEHICLES, RESTORATION OF VEHICLES, AND THE REPAIR OF VEHICLES. THOSE ARE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN TOWN THAT WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH OVER THE YEARS. AND SO WE NEED TO GET THAT CLEANED UP. THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS ANOTHER DISCUSSION WITH GETTING RID OF THESE VEHICLES IN THE STREET. AND THAT'S GOOD. SO WE'RE JUST TAKING LITTLE BITES AT THIS THING. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION. AT WHAT POINT WHEN YOU MENTIONED AUTOMOTIVE FLUIDS AND TRANSMISSION FLUID, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, IS THERE ANY POINT AT WHICH Y'ALL CONTACT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY OR ANYTHING, ANY THOSE KIND OF REPORTS ARE MADE THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AMONGST US. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AT SOME POINT, YES, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO OVERSTEP MY BOUNDS. I WANTED TO GET THE BLESSINGS FROM MY SUPERVISORS, FROM MR. HAGER, AND THEN FROM YOU ALL. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE IT BECOMES, AS MR. HAGER, I'M SURE CAN TELL YOU, FAR BETTER THAN ME, IT BECOMES A BRAND NEW LEGAL ANIMAL WHEN YOU START DEALING WITH THE ENVIRONMENT. AND THAT'S NOT PART OF MY BAILIWICK. SO I CAN ONLY ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. NO. AND IF I MAY ADD HERE TO THIS ENVIRONMENTAL, I THINK ANOTHER PART OF THIS OR SOMETHING FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION IS ALSO THE ZONING AND ORDINANCE ITSELF IN RELATION TO THIS AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, IS BASICALLY SOLVING THAT PROBLEM OF REALLY ZONING AND WHERE THEY ARE, BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED INTERNALLY IN THE PAST AND THE IMPACT OF THIS AND THE LOCATING OF IT NEAR THE SCHOOL OR WHERE CHILDREN ARE, ETC. SO THESE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN NOT THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED WITHIN THE ORDINANCE OF ZONING, AND IT IS A RESULT NOW THAT IS THERE ON THE GROUND. SO IT IS ALL RELATED, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN IN STEPS TO WHERE WE CAN ADDRESS IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU

[6.B. City Council to receive a briefing on a proposed Complete Streets Policy]

SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX B. COMPLETE BRIEFING ON COMPLETE STREETS POLICY, MR. FINCH. YES, MAYOR. BEFORE I START THAT, ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO DISMISS ALL THE STAFF. I NEED YOU SHARP 24 HOURS FROM NOW, BECAUSE CHANCES ARE I'LL BE TALKING TO YOU. SO I'M GONNA LET EVERYBODY GO. EXCEPT FOR ALEX. I NEED ALEX, SO, CHIEF, GO GET SOME REST. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY OKAY? ALEX, CAN YOU OPERATE THE. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A BRIEFING ON COMPLETE STREETS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED. ACTUALLY, A SERIES OF THESE BRIEFINGS TONIGHT IS REALLY ALL ABOUT PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE. SO I'M NOT GOING TO READ A WORD FOR WORD, BUT A COMPLETE STREET IS A COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION FACILITY THAT'S DESIGNED AND OPERATED TO SAFELY ACCOMMODATE AND IMPROVE MOBILITY FOR ALL USERS. WE USED WE USE A TERMINOLOGY THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING THE CONSTRUCTION OF A COMPLETE STREET FOR PEOPLE OF ALL WHEELED DEVICES. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE. ALEX. HERE'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT A COMPLETE STREET WOULD LOOK LIKE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SPACES. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIGHTING. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VEHICLE LANES, CROSSINGS, TRANSIT, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL PART OF A COMPLETE STREET. THE THING THAT I WANT TO STRESS TO THIS, AND I DIDN'T BRING IT WITH ME TONIGHT, I WAS GOING TO BRING IT. THE POLICIES THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS YEAR AS A COUNCIL, I LITERALLY HAVE A BOOK IN MY OFFICE CALLED THE ADMINISTRATIVE MANUAL. AND WHEN WE'RE EVALUATING SOMETHING, I GO TO THAT ADMINISTRATIVE MANUAL AND I LOOK AT THE POLICY THAT EXISTS OR THE POLICY THAT YOU'VE ADOPTED. WHEN WE COME UP IN MAY, END OF MAY, JUNE WHEN WE DO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING, I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND ACTUALLY LIST EVERY ONE OF THOSE POLICIES AND ASK YOU TO RE ADOPT THOSE SO THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS TOP OF MIND AND AWARENESS. BUT THE CONCEPT OF THIS COMPLETE STREET POLICY IS TO SAY, OKAY, AT THE TIME THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REDESIGN OF A CITY STREET OR MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS WITH IT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO ENTERTAIN AT THAT TIME, THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT AS A COMPLETE STREET. SO THIS IS NOT A MANDATE TO GO AND REPLACE EVERY SINGLE STREET IN THE CITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS JUST AS THEY COME. GO AHEAD. ALEX, THERE'S PROPOSED EIGHT KEY POLICY FRAMEWORKS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. THE COMPLETE STREET PLANNING. AS I SAID AT THE TIME OF THE STREET RECONSTRUCTION, THE TRAFFIC CALMING TECHNIQUES, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT TRAFFIC

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CALMING MEASURES THAT ARE LISTED IN THE POLICY BUT INITIATED. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT POLICIES WITH THIS BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE. AS PART OF THE INITIATIVE, THE CITY WOULD CONSIDER THE INTEGRATION OF BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES. AT THE TIME OF THE DESIGN, IMPLEMENTATION OF TRAFFIC CALMING. WHEN DESIGNING OR REDESIGNING STREETS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION. THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OBVIOUSLY IS CRITICAL TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY INPUT AND PLANNING AND DESIGN PROCESS FOR THE STREET IMPROVEMENT. THAT INCLUDES MEETING SURVEYS. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE LISTED IN THE POLICY, AND THEN THE CONTEXT SENSITIVE SOLUTIONS SECTION REALLY TALKS ABOUT THE DESIGN. IT TALKS ABOUT GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. IT TALKS ABOUT CLIMATE RESILIENCE. COUNCIL MEMBER KUNTZ MENTIONED EARLIER IN THAT PHOTO OF THE FLOWER OR FLOWER HANGING BASKETS. THERE WAS ACTUALLY A RAIN GARDEN ALSO IN THAT. AND THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT CAN ABSOLUTELY BE INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN OF THE COMPLETE STREET ACCESSIBILITY FOR ALL THAT THE CITY WOULD INCORPORATE ACCESSIBLE, ACCESSIBLE PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS AS WELL AS PERFORMANCE METRICS. GO AHEAD.

SO I KIND OF WENT THROUGH THESE. YOU CAN JUST KIND OF BUZZ THROUGH THESE QUICKLY. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, THE TRAVEL LANES. AGAIN, TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT DURING OUR OCTOBER 29TH CIP PLANNING MEETING, NARROWING THE TRAVEL LANES TENDS TO REDUCE THE SPEED. WIDER TRAFFIC LANES TENDS TO INCREASE THE SPEED, AND YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE. ALEX. AGAIN, THE STREETS. THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF COMPLETE STREETS IS DESIGNED FOR EVERYBODY, WHETHER YOU'RE ON A BIKE, WHETHER YOU'RE IN A CAR, WHETHER YOU'RE IN A WHEELCHAIR. GO AHEAD ALEX. THE TRAFFIC CALMING TEXT TECHNIQUES. I REFERENCED THESE A LITTLE BIT AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS. THE STREET WIDTH REDUCTION, THOSE ARE ALL DIFFERENT THINGS. HORIZONTAL DEFLECTION. GO AHEAD ALEX. HERE'S A GREAT EXAMPLE. MY PLAN IS TO BRING THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS TO DO A PRESENTATION TO YOU IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE ABOUT INCORPORATING ART IN STREETS AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THIS ACTUALLY ACTS AS A GREAT TOOL FOR TRAFFIC CALMING. THINK ABOUT IF YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU'RE COMING UP INTO OUR DOWNTOWN AREA AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF DESIGN THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH DUNCANVILLE, MAYBE IT'S A GIANT LOCOMOTIVE, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, BUT STILL, IT'S GOING TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN, OBVIOUSLY, AS WELL AS INCORPORATING THE GREEN GO AHEAD, THE GREENERY, THE DIFFERENT PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES.

WHEN YOU START TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE, WE START TO TALK ABOUT SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THAT. THAT'S ANOTHER BIG PIECE OF HAVING A COMPLETE STREETS POLICY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY REFERENCE THE POLICY WHEN WE GO TO MAKE APPLICATION FOR GRANT MONEY, WHEN IT COMES TIME TO RECONSTRUCT SOME OF THESE STREETS, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE DALLAS MOBILITY COALITION JUST THIS MORNING, AND THEY SAID, DO YOU HAVE A COMPLETE STREETS POLICY? AND I SAID, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED. I'M BRINGING ONE TO THE COUNCIL. AND SO THAT KIND OF THING GOES A LONG WAY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GRANT MONEY. OBVIOUSLY, BIKE LANES, PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES, ANYTHING WITH SHELTERS FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. IF WE EVENTUALLY GET TO THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS, LIGHTING IS A BIG TIME NIGHTTIME SAFETY. I TELL YOU, A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES HAVE STARTED ENACTING NIGHTLIFE MANAGEMENT PLANS, AND AS WE DEVELOP DOWNTOWN, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING I WANT TO DISCUSS WITH YOU. SO THE TRAFFIC CALMING, COMPLETE STREETS. WE'LL SKIP THROUGH THIS. I TOUCHED ON A LOT OF THIS ALREADY. THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS JUST SO IMPORTANT. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF TWO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT WERE RECENTLY HAVING PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS OR HAVE ONE COMING UP. IT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BUY INTO THE CONCEPT AND YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM, AND OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT TO HAVE THEIR INPUT. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT EVERY SINGLE STREET IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE WOULD BE A COMPLETE STREET, BUT WHERE IT MAKES SENSE AND GOING THROUGH AS WE GO THROUGH AND DO THOSE EVALUATIONS AND WHERE THE PUBLIC AGREES WITH IT AND IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE GO THROUGH. WE TALKED ABOUT THE RAIN GARDENS, THE BIOSWALES, THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WE'LL SKIP ALL OF THAT. THE ACCESSIBILITY FOR ALL IS VERY IMPORTANT. LET'S GO AHEAD, ALEX.

AND THEN OUR KPIS THAT WE'LL USE WILL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ACTUALLY HAVE REAL TRUE PERFORMANCE METRICS, CRASH RATES, THE TRAFFIC SPEEDS. WE HAVE ALL OF THAT DATA. AND I THINK WE'VE SHARED WITH YOU BEFORE. EXCUSE ME I'M WORKING WITH THE POLICE CHIEF NOW. WE'RE GOING AROUND THE CITY AND GETTING BASELINE REPORTS FOR ANY NUMBER OF STREETS AND WHAT THE AVERAGE SPEEDS ARE IN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND COMPARE THIS. I DON'T REMEMBER IF THERE'S ANOTHER SLIDE THAT'S JUST A FACTOR THERE. AND THEN AGAIN, THE CONCLUSION IS REALLY THAT THE COUNCIL IS MAKING A POLICY DECISION AND A COMMITMENT TO REALLY EVALUATING AND CONSIDERING ENHANCING THE SAFETY, ACCESSIBILITY AND

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LIVABILITY OF ALL OF OUR STREETS AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION. AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR

[6.C. City Council to receive briefing and discuss possible creation of a Charter Amendment Committee]

APPROVAL NEXT, NEXT MEETING. SO ALL RIGHT OKAY. ITEM SIX C BRIEFING ON CHARTER AMENDMENT COMMITTEE. ALL RIGHT. SO I KNOW AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DO A PRESENTATION TO YOU ON THE POTENTIAL OF A CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE OR A CHARTER AMENDMENT. HE GAVE YOU THE DETAILS. WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD, BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS. I KNOW THAT THERE IS A DEADLINE. I BELIEVE IT'S AUGUST 12TH TO MAKE THE BALLOT. I LOOKED IT UP. I THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE RIGHT AROUND THERE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN NORMAL. 72 DAYS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION. IT'S A LITTLE BIT LONGER IN THE IN THE AUGUST TIME FRAME FOR THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. WHAT I NEED TO KNOW IS IF YOU WANT A COMMITTEE, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A COMMITTEE, BUT YOU MAY HAVE A COMMITTEE.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CHARTER THAT REQUIRES IT. IT'S PERMISSIVE, THE COUNCIL COULD SUGGEST PROPOSITIONS TO PUT ON IF YOU WANT TO REVIEW ALL OF THE CHARTER, OR ONLY SECTIONS OF THE CHARTER, THAT WOULD DICTATE, BECAUSE YOU COULD DO A CHARTER REVIEW AND SAY, I WANT YOU TO FOCUS THE COMMITTEE TO FOCUS ON THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THOSE ARE THE TWO AREAS WHERE WE WANT RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO SUGGEST BALLOT LANGUAGE FOR AN ELECTION.

OR YOU COULD DO JUST THE COUNCIL OR YOU COULD DO THE WHOLE THING IF YOU DO THE WHOLE THING. IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE THREE MONTHS BECAUSE IT'S THE COUNCIL AND THE MANAGER ARE REALLY THE GUTS OF THE CHARTER, AND THEY TAKE A LONG TIME BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDAMENTAL FORM OF GOVERNMENT THAT YOU HAVE. YOU'VE SEEN A LITTLE BIT WHAT DALLAS DID TO THEMSELVES. SORRY, WHAT THEY DID TO THEMSELVES. THEY REALLY WANTED A STRONG MAYOR. AND THEY TALKED ABOUT COMPENSATION FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFFING FOR COUNCIL MEMB DEBATED ISSUES. BUT YOU CAN DO SOME CLEANUP. OUR CHARTER HAS NOT GOTTEN A MAJOR REVISION IN A VERY LONG TIME. YOU'VE HAD BITS AND PIECES OVER THE YEARS, BUT MANY OF THE THINGS THAT IF YOU WANT TO CLEAN IT UP, IT CAN BE CLEANED UP, BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT WHEN WE FIRST DID A CHARTER STATE LAW HAS PREEMPTED THE FIELD, IF YOU WILL, YOUR ELECTIONS, THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF STATUTES INVOLVED OVER THE YEARS, SO THERE'S LESS TECHNICAL THINGS LIKE THE FILING A CLAIM WITH THE CITY SECRETARY. ALL THAT STUFF IS REALLY COVERED BY THE TEXAS TORT CLAIMS ACT. NOW WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF SIMPLIFICATION THAT WE COULD USE. AND NOT BEING SO INVOLVED, LIKE SOME CITIES HAVE. TWO, YOU HAVE TO READ THE ORDINANCE TWICE BEFORE YOU PASS IT. WELL, THAT'S A VESTIGE OF THE OLD LAW WHEN THERE WAS NO TELEVISION, THERE WAS NO INTERNET, ■THERE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN A TELEPHONE. AND THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD FIND OUT THAT THERE WAS ANYTHING GOING ON AT CITY HALL, YOU HAD TO COME DOWN TO CITY HALL. AND NOWADAYS WE DON'T NEED ALL THAT. SO. AND FRANCHISES ARE ALMOST NON-EXISTENT ANYMORE BECAUSE THE STATE HAS TAKEN AWAY OUR ABILITY TO FRANCHISE TELECOMMUNICATIONS, OTHER UTILITIES THAT WE DON'T DIRECTLY PROVIDE. SO THAT'S REALLY ANTIQUATED. WE CAN SIGN A LICENSE AGREEMENT, WE CAN CHARGE A FEE FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY. WE DON'T NEED THOSE OLD FRANCHISES ANYMORE, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THOSE ARE EASY TO CLEAN UP. BUT THE REAL NUTS AND BOLTS OF THIS THING IS HOW DO WHAT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL GOVERNMENT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? AND WHAT YOU WANT THE MANAGER TO DO? WHAT DO YOU, AS A COUNCIL WANT TO DO AND ALL THINGS IN BETWEEN? SO IF THAT'S WHAT I NEED FROM YOU ALL, DO YOU WANT JUST A NARROW REVIEW OR A CLEAN UP REVIEW, OR DO YOU WANT TO COMMISSION? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY. I'VE HAD, AS MANY AS 14 WHERE EVERYONE HAD TWO APPOINTEES APIECE TO SEVEN. IF IT GETS, I WILL SAY THIS THE BIGGER THE GROUP, THE LONGER IT TAKES. SO I CAN BRING BACK A RESOLUTION. BASICALLY, YOU COULD DESIGNATE A COMMITTEE. I CAN LEAVE IT BLANK. YOU CAN PUT THE

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NUMBERS IN AND LEAVE IT BLANK AS TO WHAT YOU WANT REVIEWED, AND WE CAN FILL IT IN. MR. NOT READY BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT FROM NOW UNTIL AUGUST 12TH. YEAH. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S ONE PARTICULAR PART OF THE CHARTER THAT THAT MIGHT BE ESPECIALLY UNDER CONSIDERATION. SO, YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS THERE WERE WHAT IT IS, IS THREE YEAR TERMS. RIGHT. SO AND THEN WHAT THAT DOES, THEY'RE THREE YEAR TERMS. THERE'S 1 OR 2 THINGS YOU HAVE TO RESIGN TO RUN PERIOD. SO AND SO THAT'S EASY. THAT'S AN EASY FIX FOR Y'ALL I DON'T THINK IT WOULD TAKE THAT LONG TO DO IT. I WOULDN'T EVEN DO A COMMITTEE FOR THAT. OKAY. WELL THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION IF YOU WANT IF YOU WANT A TRUE REVIEW, YOU ALMOST NEED A COMMITTEE OR I NEED A LOT OF YOUR TIME, MORE OF YOUR TIME. WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF YOUR TIME. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR THOSE WHO KIND OF PUT THIS ON THE TABLE, ARE YOU MORE FOCUSED ON LET'S, YOU KNOW, TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE, AND IF SO, WE CAN FOCUS ON THAT AND THEN COME BACK TO THE BIGGER CHALLENGE. RIGHT. OR DO WE JUST WANT TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER CHALLENGE AND THAT BE A PART OF IT. COUNCILWOMAN SHERRI BROWN I THINK TWO THINGS I DO THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT'S OVER THREE YEARS, I'LL ALWAYS NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED, BUT I DO, I THINK TWO PARTS. THE FIRST, WITH LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF TERMS AND THEN BECAUSE I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS EVERY TWO YEARS OR SO BEFORE YOU COULD DO ANYTHING. ANYWAY, WE HAVE AN ELECTION. YOU CAN'T HAVE ANOTHER ELECTION TO CHANGE THE CHARTER FOR TWO YEARS. RIGHT? RIGHT. SO I THINK THE FIRST THING LOOKING AT THE TERM AND THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE SO DETAILED ANYWAY TO GO THROUGH LOOKING AT THE CHARTER, THAT IT WOULDN'T HURT TO HAVE A COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE, THE CHARTER AND START WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, FOR OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S MY THOUGHT, COUNCILWOMAN GOODEN, I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN CHERRY BROWN. I WAS MY MAIN FOCUS AND WHAT I WAS WANTING TO HAVE REVIEWED WAS THE TERM EVERY OTHER YEAR, HAVING TO HAVE AN ELECTION AND COSTING THE CITY ELECTION MONEY EVERY TIME. WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE EVERY YEAR. THEN I WOULD ALSO AGREE THAT WE WOULD GET A COMMITTEE TO REVIEW ALL ITEMS IN IT THAT'S CURRENTLY HISTORIC, THAT ARE NO LONGER APPLICABLE, HAVE SPECIFIC TYPES OF REVIEWS. I'M OF THE MINDSET THAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE REVIEWED AS FAR AS POLICIES ON A REGULAR BASIS. WHATEVER WE DETERMINE AS A BODY IS THAT REGULAR BASIS. AND BECAUSE THERE COULD BE SOME OUTDATED INFORMATION IN THERE THAT IS NO LONGER APPLICABLE. AND SO WE COULD AT LEAST START WITH THAT, REMOVING THAT. AND THEN THE NEXT TIME AFTER HAVE A REVIEW OF OTHER ITEMS THAT COUNCIL MAY DEEM ARE NECESSARY. OVER HERE OR THERE. BUT THAT'S CLEAR. WELL, OKAY, I'LL REPEAT IT. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THREE YEAR TERMS, I THINK YOU HAVE TO. IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT ON ON THE SHORT TERM, THEN YOU NEED TO DO THAT BY NOVEMBER BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE THE FOLLOWING MAY ELECTION. SO WHOEVER IS UP NEXT MAY, A YEAR FROM MAY, WOULD THEN BE ELECTED TO A THREE YEAR TERM. AND THEN IT'S EASY TO IMPLEMENT IF YOU WAIT TO HAVE THE ELECTION WHEN SOMEONE'S RUNNING FOR COUNCIL. IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE CITIZENS WILL LOOK AT THAT AS WHO'S RUNNING FOR THAT POSITION AND MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT THEY WANT THREE YEAR TERMS AND TWO YEAR TERMS BASED ON WHO'S RUNNING. AND IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE. YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE THINK OF THE WORST COUNCILMEN AND THE BEST COUNCILMEN AND THEN MAKE YOUR CHOICE BASED ON ON WHAT THAT MEANS FOR Y'ALL. BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. IF YOU GO TO THREE YEARS, YOU HAVE FOUR AND THREE. WHEN I DID THIS IN LANCASTER, WE DID TWO, TWO AND THREE, OR I DID THREE. I GAVE THEM A CHOICE THREE, THREE AND ONE, SO THAT THE MAYOR ALWAYS RAN INDEPENDENT OF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. AND SO THEY ELECTED THREE AND THREE.

THE REASON IS YOU CAN'T TURN THE, THE WHOLE CITY AROUND IN ONE ELECTION. IT SPREADS IT OUT.

SO YOU DO TWO TO THREE OR 2 OR 3, THREE, ONE. SO IN ANY ONE ELECTION YOU DON'T FLIP THE

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ENTIRE COUNCIL. AND SO YOU WANT THAT CONTINUITY THAT THESE ARE THE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE TO HAVE WITH EITHER COMMITTEE OR YOU ON HOW YOU THINK ABOUT DOING THAT. BUT IF IT'S ON THE SHORT TERM, PROBABLY FOR AN HOUR, WHEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER MEETING, WE'LL WORKSHOP THIS AND WE CAN DO THAT AND DO IT IN NOVEMBER. BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO THINK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF HAVING A CIVICS CLASS AND THOSE KINDS OF ELECTIONS, I, I ENJOY THIS BECAUSE IT'S REALLY FUN, BECAUSE YOU REALLY GET TO SEE PEOPLE REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT THEIR GOVERNMENT MEANS TO THEM AND HOW IT'S GOING TO OPERATE. AND YOU DON'T GET TO DO THIS VERY OFTEN.

IT'S NOT ESOTERIC DISCUSSION, SO IT'LL TAKE LONGER. I'VE SAID ENOUGH. I KNOW EVERYONE'S TIRED.

FURTHER COMMENTS. MR. MACK? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. AND SO, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, IF I IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, YOU'RE SAYING IF IT IS GOING THREE YEAR TERMS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SUPPORT AS WELL, IT'S BETTER IF WE DO THAT AS A, AS A COUNCIL WITH YOU AND THEN THEN HAVE ANOTHER. I MEAN, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF DOING ANY OFF ELECTION SO THAT THAT DECISION IS MADE ON BASED ON THE VALIDITY OF THE THREE YEAR TERM AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHO'S SITTING IN THAT CHAIR. AND THEN EVERYONE'S GOT A FAIR SHOT AT DOING THE THREE YEAR TERM AT THE NEXT GO ROUND IN MAY. AND THEN THEN APPOINT A COMMITTEE TO COME BACK AND DO A COMMITTEE IN THE NEXT GO AROUND FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. SO YOU CAN DO THE KIND OF DRILL DOWN IN CONVERSATION YOU WANT TO HAVE, BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE A LONG TIME. AND IT I'VE DONE IT WHERE WE'VE TRIED TO CRAM IT DOWN AND THAT'S FINE, BUT IT'S NOT VERY ENJOYABLE FOR ANYBODY THAT'S INVOLVED. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO I'LL BRING BACK A RESOLUTION TO DO TERMS AND LET YOU GUYS CONSIDER THAT NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER. THAT'S THAT'S YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I THINK I HEARD EVERYBODY SAY SO. AND SAME. DO YOU WANT TO KEEP I DON'T KNOW DO YOU WANT DISTRICTS. YOU WANT THREE TWO.

DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE DISTRICTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. JUST STRAIGHT UP. SAME DISTRICTS WE HAVE NOW ONE AT LARGE MAYOR AT LARGE. COUNCILMAN. YES. SO I WANT TO BE SURE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS. AND IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO BRING US A RESOLUTION, I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT HERE AND IT MAKES SENSE. AND BUT YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT JUST SHOWS UP AS AN ACTION ITEM THAT THE PUBLIC DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WAS BEING DISCUSSED. AND THE OTHER THING IS THREE, FOUR, THREE, THREE, 1332. YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU GOT SEVEN MEMBERS YOU DON'T WANT TO DO FOUR THREE. YOU HAVE THREE ONE TIME FOR THE NEXT. DO YOU WANT IT? SO DO YOU WANT TO SPLIT THE MAYOR AND THE AT LARGE, OR DO YOU WANT THE MAYOR AND THE AT LARGE RUNNING AT THE SAME TIME OR DIFFERENT TIMES? SO MAYOR, COULD WE BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE ON OUR AGENDA. IT TALKS ABOUT CHARTER AMENDMENT COMMITTEE, BUT CAN WE HAVE ANOTHER. YOU CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT MAKING A DECISION. I'LL BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE AND THEN I'LL LET YOU CARVE IT UP. OKAY. WE DO THAT. IT WON'T BE ANYTHING WE'LL VOTE ON. IT WON'T BE PUT ON THE AGENDA TO VOTE ON. BUT WE'LL ALSO SEND IT OUT. WE'LL SEND IT OUT. I'LL SEND IT TO THE CITY MANAGER, OR I'LL EMAIL IT AND IT'LL PUT IT IN YOUR DROPBOX AND THEN GET COMMENTS BACK FROM YOU. AND THEN ONE OTHER, ONE OTHER. I'M NOT IN ANY HURRY ON THIS ONE. I THINK WE GOT A LITTLE TIME. SO LIKE MARCH OR APRIL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. OKAY. ONE OTHER THING TO ADDRESS MR. POINT THAT HE JUST MADE WAS WHILE WE ARE DISCUSSING THIS IN PUBLIC, I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MORE PRONOUNCED STATEMENT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT, AND WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO THAT. WHAT VENUE DO WE DO THAT? CITY MANAGER? MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER CRUZ'S POINT, ONCE THE CITY ATTORNEY GETS THAT DRAFTED, WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND THAT OUT BY EMAIL. BUT THEN WE'LL PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA AS A BRIEFING ITEM SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION WITHOUT ACTUALLY TAKING ACTION. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON IT, AND THEN VOTE ON IT DOWN THE ROAD. BUT WE HAVE TIME ON THIS ONE. SO WE'RE ONLY JUST GOING TO DO THIS ONE THING. WE GOT WE GOT TIME TO DO THAT. SO I JUST NEED TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT AND CHEW ON AND

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GO, I LIKE THIS. I DON'T LIKE THIS. I GOT IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FIVE

[6.D. City Council to receive a briefing from the City Manager and discuss the possible creation of a 2025 Bond Committee.]

I'M SORRY SIX D BRIEFING ON BOND COMMITTEE CONSIDERATION. YES, MAYOR. COUNCIL THANK YOU SO AND I APOLOGIZE. IT'S GETTING LATE. AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT MATTER. YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE 2018 BOND PROJECTS. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT I KNOW IT'S BEEN A PRIORITY FOR CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE SUCH A GOOD STORY TO TELL. WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON SO MANY OF THESE DIFFERENT ITEMS. PROPOSITION A OBVIOUSLY, BACK IN DECEMBER, YOU AUTHORIZE PHASE ONE AND THREE OF HARRINGTON PARK IMPROVEMENTS, AND THE FUNDING FOR THAT. PROPOSITION B, WE DID THE OVERLAY OF THE MICRO SURFACING FOR CEDAR RIDGE. AND THE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS GETTING READY TO KICK OFF THIS SPRING WITH THAT FIRE. STATION C OR PROPOSITION C, IS THE FIRE STATION. AND THAT IS COMPLETE. AND THEN THE SERVICE CENTER. SO AS WE LOOK AT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS GRAPHIC IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CITY'S DEBT TAX RATE TREND HAS BEEN SINCE 2014. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DEBT TAX RATE WAS JUST ABOUT $0.07 BACK IN 2015, 2014. IT WAS A LITTLE LESS. AND THAT'S A WHITE IT JUST CAME UP THAT WAY ON THE GRAPHICS. AND THEN YOU CARRY THROUGH TO WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE BOND, THE 20 YEAR BOND FOR THE 2018 BOND PROJECTS, AND THAT WAS AUTHORIZED ON FEBRUARY 5TH, 2019. IT WAS A 20 YEAR BOND AT 3.12%. INTEREST ON TOTAL AMOUNT WAS 21,600,000. THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT IS $1,485,000. I WOULD TELL YOU, CFO RICHARD JACKSON AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS. HILLTOP SECURITIES IS WHO WE USE. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THAT RICHARD AND I HAVE THE EXPERIENCE IN DOING IT NECESSARILY THIS WAY, AND TAKING THE MONEY ALL OUT AT ONCE.

TRADITIONALLY, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS DO BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES OR A GENERAL OBLIGATION. ONCE YOU HAVE APPROVAL FROM THE VOTERS, AND THEN YOU TAKE OUT THE LOAN FOR THE SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT YOU'RE DOING, AND THEN YOU BOND IT ALL AT ONCE AT THE END. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT ACTUALLY COULD ENDED UP SAVING US A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. BUT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENTLY. YOU CAN SEE THE TAX RATE, THE DEBT TAX RATE FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IS $0.03, THREE POINT $0.05 OR $0.04. GO AHEAD ALEX. SO HERE'S WHAT WE KNOW LOOKING AHEAD RIGHT. AS WE TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE NEEDS. WE HAD OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT MEETING BACK ON OCTOBER 29TH. WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE ABOUT $160 MILLION IN IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR FACILITIES RECONSTRUCTION. YOU NAME IT, EVERYTHING ALL COMBINED. WE DID THE IN 2024, WE DID THE MATRIX SAFETY ANALYSIS. WE KNOW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS COMING OUT OF THAT IS THEY'RE GOING TO TELL US THAT WE NEED A THIRD FIRE STATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE RESPONSE TIMES. WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE QUITE A PROBLEM WITH ENOUGH SPACE FOR OUR POLICE STATION THAT NEEDS RENOVATION OR EXPANSION, AND WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO REDO THE SERVICE CENTER AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED IN THE 2018 BOND. SO IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT JUST THOSE THREE PROJECTS, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT $25 MILLION NEED IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL INVESTMENT. GO AHEAD ALEX. SO JUST TO TAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND NOT TO GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS, BUT IF WE LOOKED AT A 30 YEAR BOND, A 20 YEAR BOND AND A 15 YEAR BOND, YOU CAN SEE A 20 YEAR BOND AT 4.5% INTEREST. CURRENTLY, IT EQUATES TO AN ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT OF ALMOST $1.9 MILLION. THAT MEANS WE WOULD END UP PAYING ABOUT $13 MILLION IN INTEREST OVER THAT 20 YEARS. THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THE YEAR 2045. YOU CAN SEE IF YOU GO 15 YEARS, YOU'RE PAYING LESS IN INTEREST. IF YOU GO TO 30 YEARS, YOU'RE PAYING MORE IN INTEREST.

GO AHEAD ALEX. SO TO PROJECT THIS OUT AND WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE FOR THE FUTURE, COMBINING THE IF WE WERE TO DO ANOTHER BOND AND TAKING THAT OUT AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, YOU CAN SEE LOOKING AT THIS CHART HERE THAT IT WOULD TAKE US FROM WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT BACK TO THE $0.07. AND THAT'S COMBINED FOR THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT FOR BOTH THE EXISTING BOND AS WELL AS A POTENTIAL NEW BOND IF VOTERS WERE TO AUTHORIZE IT ABOUT $1.9 MILLION. SO THE NEW DEBT OR THE NEW $25 MILLION BOND WOULD EQUAL ABOUT $0.04, $0.04 PER THOUSAND PER HUNDRED ON THE TAX RATE, 3 TO $0.04, GIVE OR TAKE. AND YOU WOULD SEE THAT IN 2034. I MAY HAVE DONE THAT WRONG. 2040 I THINK IT IS THE ONE WOULD DROP OFF. YOU CAN SEE THERE THE COLORS ARE A LITTLE

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BIT HARD TO SEE THERE, BUT NONETHELESS THE ONE WOULD COME OFF IN THE TAX RATE, WOULD DROP BACK DOWN THE DEBT SERVICE RATE TO ABOUT $0.02, TWO AND A HALF CENTS. GO AHEAD ALEX LOOKING.

HERE'S ACTUALLY THE DETAILS I WAS LOOKING FOR. I'M SORRY. THE 25 DEBT SERVICE RATE THREE AND A HALF CENTS. IF WE WERE TO ADD IN IN 27, IF THE VOTERS WERE TO APPROVE A NEW BOND THE FIRST TIME, YOU'D REALLY HAVE A DEBT SERVICE ON THAT WOULD BE 2027, BECAUSE WE WOULD BE DOING CONSTRUCTION IN 26 IF THE VOTERS APPROVED A BOND FOR YOU IN NOVEMBER OF 25, AND THEN YOU WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE OUT THE BOND IN 27 ONCE THE PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED, ONCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN BUILT, AND THAT'S ABOUT WHERE YOU WOULD BE, YOU'D BE AT THAT $0.07 UNTIL IT DROPS BACK OFF WHEN THE OTHER ONE IS PAID. THIS TAX RATE THAT I'M SHOWING YOU HERE IN TERMS OF DEBT SERVICE RATE DOES ASSUME A 3% ANNUAL INCREASE IN THE OVERALL TAXABLE VALUE OF THE CITY. GO TO ALEX. THIS IS ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE $100,000. HOUSE WOULD PAY AN EXTRA $40 A YEAR. IF IT'S A FOUR CENT INCREASE, $200,000 HOUSE, SO FORTH AND SO ON. TIMELINE.

THIS IS MY BIGGER CONCERN THAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS TO THE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER OF 2025, THAT DATE THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, ACTUALLY, THERE'S THE ACTUAL DATE. AUGUST 18TH, 2025 IS THE LAST DAY FOR THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE A ORDER FOR IT TO APPEAR ON THE GENERAL ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER 4TH, 2025. SO WORKING BACKWARDS FROM THAT DATE, THAT MEANS WE REALLY NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT A BOND COMMITTEE.

IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THAT, START TO REVIEW OUR PROJECTS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO COUNCIL AT THE LATEST BY JUNE. IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND A THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER APPROVING A MEASURE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE MEASURE TO GO TO VOTERS IN NOVEMBER OF 2025. I DO WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU REALLY THE PROCESS THAT WAS FOLLOWED IN 2018 FOR THE CREATION OF THE BOND COMMITTEE. IT'S A VERY GOOD PROCESS. I ACTUALLY PULLED THIS OUT. I KNOW I EMAILED IT TO YOU, THE COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY OF 2018 APPROVED A CHARGE TO THE BOND COMMITTEE. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THERE WERE SIX DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL CALL FOR A BOND ELECTION? SHOULD A PORTION OF THE BOND CAPACITY BE DEDICATED TO INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES, ETC? CONSIDER THE AMOUNT OF BONDING CAPACITY. CONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHAT PROJECTS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

IT ALSO TALKED ABOUT PARKS AND THEN WHAT OTHER NEEDS. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE COMMITTEE WAS COMPRISED OF A REPRESENTATIVE BY EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS WELL AS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE P AND Z, DC, EDC, NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY PARKS AND REC LIBRARY TAX. AND THEN THERE WERE SOME CHAMBER REPRESENTATIVES AND COUNCIL NOMINATIONS, FOR A TOTAL OF A 19 MEMBER COMMITTEE. I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO TAKE IN, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE OPEN TO HELP US, IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN THE FINANCING FOR THOSE THREE SPECIFIC FACILITIES THAT ARE NEEDED. THE THING WE WOULDN'T BE ASKING YOU TO MAKE ANY DECISION TONIGHT OTHER THAN AND REALLY, WE'RE NOT EVEN ASKING YOU THAT TONIGHT. BUT REALLY THE QUESTION NOW IS, DO WE ASK THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE A GROUP OF RESIDENTS REPRESENTATIVES TO EVALUATE THE SITUATION AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO YOU? THAT'S REALLY ALL WE'RE REALLY ASKING FOR AT THIS TIME. DID I LOSE YOU? SO, SO DOES CREATING A COMMITTEE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT TO AN ELECTION, RIGHT? NO, I MEAN, SO WE COULD CREATE THE COMMITTEE. YES. AND JUST HEAD DOWN THAT ROAD. YES. OKAY. SO. MISS GOODEN, THANK YOU. MAYOR, THE COMMITTEE, THEY WOULD BE AWARE OF THE PROJECTS AND THE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR AND WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE BOND, AND THEY WOULD DETERMINE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY FEEL IS NECESSARY FOR A BOND, AM I RIGHT? SO MY GUESS IS, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THIS COMMITTEE AND ACTUALLY TAKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS YOU FINISH IT UP. ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN 2020 FOR THE FACILITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THE LAD NATURE PRESERVE, THE PARKS, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, AS WELL AS THE FACILITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND THE MATRIX REPORT AND REALLY TAKE ALL THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND LET THE COMMITTEE REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AS WELL AS THAT $160 MILLION IN NEEDS THAT WE HAVE OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS FOR THEM TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO YOU. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WHERE WE SHOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO

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THE VOTERS TO HAVE A BOND, AND THEN WHAT ITEMS SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN IT, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES, I TELL YOU, IS THERE'S BETTER INTEREST RATES FOR FACILITIES THAN THERE ARE FOR, FOR INSTANCE, MAINTENANCE TYPE THINGS. AND SO THOSE ARE ALL THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I CAN WORK WITH THE BOND COMMITTEE, WE CAN EVALUATE AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE COUNCIL. MR. MACK BURNETT THANK YOU, MAYOR. I I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I AM AS WELL. I THINK WE'LL NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF MARKETING ALONG THE WAY, TOO, BECAUSE SOME OF SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT 2018 BOND WERE OUT OF ANYBODY'S CONTROL.

SOME OF THE MISSTEPS WERE NOT IT WASN'T VERY WELL MANAGED. SO IT WAS A COMBINATION OF THINGS. BUT THAT'S THE CITIZENS KNOW ABOUT THE COST OVERRUNS AND THE DELAYS. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WE'RE PACKAGING. AND I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS TO GET A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS SO THAT WE HAVE A VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE LOOKING AT IT BEFORE ANY DECISIONS ARE MADE. BUT IT'S KIND OF AN UPHILL BATTLE, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS SITTING HERE TONIGHT. IT'S ANY OF OUR FAULTS THAT THESE THINGS HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY MOTHER NATURE SETTING IN AND CAUSING A LOT OF SETBACKS AND COST OF PRODUCTS GOING UP AT THAT FIRE STATION THAT WAS VERY EXPENSIVE BEYOND WHAT IT WAS INITIALLY BID OUT AT. ONE THING WE COULD DO ABOUT THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PUBLIC LOOKS AT THAT, THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, WELL, THE CITY DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB. WELL, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT THAT WAS THE MAIN THING, BUT WE GOT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REALLY TRANSPARENT AND OUT FRONT WHEN WE MARKET THIS OUT, BECAUSE I THINK THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO EXPECT THAT WE ARE THOROUGHLY VETTING EVERYTHING WE'RE ASKING THEM TO CONSIDER PAYING FOR IN A BOND. BUT I'M IN. I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF IT. WE HAVE TO DO THESE THINGS IN THE FUTURE. AND WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T JUST SIT BACK AND NOT MAKE AN ATTEMPT AT TRYING TO GET THESE THINGS DONE. SO. IF MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER MAYBE EMAILING ME IF YOU IF YOU LIKE THE FORMAT OF THE WAY THIS WAS DONE BEFORE WHERE EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD A REPRESENTATIVE, MAYBE THINK ABOUT THAT, MAYBE SEND ME AN EMAIL AND WE CAN START TO PREPARE A RESOLUTION AND BRING BACK TO YOU WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE NEXT MEETING, WE'LL DO OUR BEST. BUT FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT. YES, THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL. SO BOY, WE ARE GOING TO BE

[6.E. Council to receive a briefing on the possible creation of a Conservation Fund, and a Conservation Fund Policy; discussion with the City Manager and possibly provide direction.]

ASKING A LOT OF YOUR TIME THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE GETTING READY TO ROLL INTO THE FY 26 BUDGET PROCESS. AND SO MANY OF THESE POLICIES, REALLY THERE'S FISCAL IMPACTS. THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE A HUGE FISCAL IMPACT, BUT IT DOES SET KIND OF A CHART FORWARD ON ON WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHERE WE'RE KIND OF GOING. SO AGAIN THE PREMISE HERE BEHIND THE CONSERVATION FUND.

AND CERTAINLY APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER KUNTZ I KNOW FROM WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE BROUGHT THIS UP FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE LAST COUPLE OF BUDGETS. AND IN DOING SOMETHING AND I MY EXPERIENCE WAS PREVIOUSLY SOMETHING WITH A OPEN SPACE PLAN POLICY. BUT THE ESSENTIALLY THE CONCEPT OF THIS IS TO SUPPORT THE CONSERVATION AND PROTECTION OF NATURAL LAND AND WATER RESOURCES WITHIN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. THE FUND REALLY THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS A MECHANISM FOR US TO HAVE DEDICATED MONEY FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE THAT COULD THEN BE USED AT THAT POINT IN TIME AS PROJECTS COME UP, IT COULD SUPPORT OPEN SPACE. IT CAN OBVIOUSLY THE LAD NATURE PRESERVE, IT CAN DO GREENWAYS, IT COULD EVEN DO PARKS IF YOU WANTED TO. SO MANY DIFFERENT, SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. SO THE PROPOSED MISSION STATEMENT HERE THAT THE CONSERVATION FUND IS DEDICATED TO PRESERVING AND ENHANCING THE NATURAL RESOURCES, OPEN SPACE AND BIODIVERSITY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THROUGH STRATEGIC INITIATIVES AND COMMUNITY COLLABORATION, WE AIM TO PROTECT WATER QUALITY, MAINTAIN WILDLIFE HABITATS AND PROVIDE ACCESSIBLE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. THE MISSION IS TO ENSURE A SUSTAINABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS, FOSTERING A DEEP APPRECIATION FOR THE BEAUTY AND VALUE OF DUNCANVILLE NATURAL RESOURCES. THERE ARE SEVEN MAIN POINTS ALLOCATED OR KEY OBJECTIVES THE WATER RESOURCE PROTECTION, BIODIVERSITY, RURAL CHARACTER MAINTENANCE, GREEN SPACE TRAILS, OUTDOOR EDUCATION AND RECREATION, IMPLEMENTATION OF CONSERVATION GOALS AND THEN

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LAND ACQUISITIONS OR EASEMENTS. AND THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT POINTS WITH EACH OF EACH OF THOSE. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, BUT BASICALLY WHAT THE POLICY CALLS FOR IS, FOR A START, FOR US TO MAKE A $2,000 CONTRIBUTION TO THE FUND, TO CREATE THE FUND. AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THE FUND ESTABLISHED, THEN WE COULD ACTUALLY USE THE FUND TO WHETHER IT'S GOING AFTER GRANT MONEY, WHETHER IT'S GOING AFTER ANY NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT THE POLICY DOES CALL FOR AT THE END OF EACH FISCAL YEAR THAT WE REVIEW OUR UNEXPENDED FUNDS AND THAT COUNCIL CONSIDER MAKING AN APPROPRIATION TO THE CONSERVATION FUND. BUT THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO WE GET TO THE END OF THE YEAR AND WE SAY, HEY, GOOD NEWS, WE HAD AN EXTRA $400,000 THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND.

COUNCIL COULD SAY, OKAY, I WANT TO PUT 40,000IN THE CONSERVATION FUND, THAT TYPE OF THING. SO AGAIN, IT'S A POLICY. IT'S A GUARDRAIL, IT'S A GUIDELINE. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY SPECIFIC ACTION OTHER THAN THE ONLY THING WOULD BE IF WE ADOPTED THE POLICY, WE'D CREATE THE FUND, AND WE WOULD NEED THE $2,000 APPROPRIATION TO CREATE IT. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, MR. BURNETT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY MANAGER, HOW DID THE AMOUNT 2000 COME IN? I MEAN, TO ME, THAT'S A DROP. I MEAN, I MEAN, IT'S JUST I MEAN, WHY NOT 20? YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. YES. WELL, I WAS JUST WE'RE SEEING THAT. I MEAN, WE'RE SEEM LIKE WE'RE RUNNING PRETTY WELL, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO SEED IT AND ESPECIALLY A LOT OF TIMES IF YOU'RE GETTING A GRANT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MATCHING AMOUNT. SO JUST JUST. CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. WE CAN CERTAINLY ADD A ZERO. I MEAN I CAN I MEAN I THINK THE I THINK THE FIRST YEAR I BROUGHT THIS UP 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, I SAID $500. IT WAS IT WAS ARBITRARY. I MEAN, IT WAS I MEAN, SO BUT IT WAS JUST TO ESTABLISH THE FUND AND THEN THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT WAYS, ESPECIALLY WITH, YOU KNOW, TRANSFERS FROM THE GENERAL FUND, LOOKING AT I BROUGHT THIS UP AT ONE MEETING, LOOKING AT FEES, JUST LOOKING AT ANY POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, $0.01 HERE, $0.02 THERE. I KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED DEVELOPMENT FEES AND PERMITS AND SO THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING IT. I SENT I KNOW AT SOME POINT I SENT A VIDEO, I'LL RESEND IT THAT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES A LOT OF EDUCATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS WORKS, BUT REALLY IT'S NOT A SHORT TERM DEAL. I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE LOOKING FIVE, TEN, MAYBE EVEN 15 YEARS DOWN THE LINE WHERE THIS FUND GROWS. AND THEN AT SOME POINT YOU DO MATCH AND YOU TAKE $500,000, $1 MILLION AND A GRANT WILL MATCH THAT. SO YOU CAN LEVERAGE THOSE FUNDS AS WELL. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BE SOME SHIFT IN OUR CULTURE RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS OUR INTEREST IN CONSERVATION AND GREEN SPACES. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO AT LEAST START SOMETHING WHERE WE'VE GOT SOME MONEY SET ASIDE JUST FOR THAT. SO THIS IS IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE ARTS FUND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD AN ART, WE'VE GOT ARTS INTEREST, AND NOW WE'VE GOT SOME MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THAT. AND SO NOW WE'RE SETTING A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY ASIDE FOR OUR CONSERVATION INTERESTS. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING ELSE, BY THE WAY, THAT OTHER CITIES AREN'T DOING YET THAT WE'RE LEADING THE WAY ON. THIS. OKAY. I THINK WE STILL GOT THIS ONE HERE THAT WE MOVED. ALL RIGHT.