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SECOND. LET ME START AND THEN I'LL ASK. OKAY, GIVE ME A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING. IT IS 7:02 P.M. IT IS DECEMBER 30TH, 2024. I'D LIKE TO GET THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE MOVING FORWARD. THAT SAID, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE ACTING RECORDING SECRETARY, MISS ROMERO, PLEASE DO THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE. YOLANDA COLUMBUS.
STEPHANIE. CHAMPAGNE, ERICA BROWNING, ELIAS RODRIGUEZ. D, BAILEY NGUYEN, BRENDA O'BRIEN.
[2. Appointment of Chair and Vice Chair.]
THANK YOU. WE HAVE A QUORUM. AT THIS POINT, I WOULD ASK AND REQUEST AN APPOINTMENT OF A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. I AM SEEKING A FIRST AND A AND A SECOND ON THE APPOINTMENT OF A CHAIR. AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT APPOINTMENT, THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO A VICE CHAIR. I WOULD ACTUALLY NEED A VOTE, YES OR NO. I JUST WOULD ASK FOR SOME GUIDANCE. MR. HAGAN, MISS COLUMBUS. APPOINT HERSELF OR DO WE NEED. TO NOMINATE? OH THAT'S CORRECTION RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.OKAY. WELL WE'LL PROCEED THEN. SO WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND APPOINTING MISS COLUMBUS AS THE CHAIR. AND I WILL GO THROUGH THE VOTE. MISS COLUMBUS. MISS CHAMPAGNE, MISS BROWNING. MISS WYNN, MISS O'BRIEN. OKAY, SO WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT OF A CHAIR NOW SEEKING A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF A VICE CHAIR. OKAY. LOOKING FOR A SECOND? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND ON THE APPOINTMENT OF MISS BROWNING AS THE VICE CHAIR. I WILL GO FOR THE VOTE. MISS BROWNING. MISS COLUMBUS, MISS CHAMPAGNE, MISS WYNN, MISS O'BRIEN. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT OF A VICE VICE CHAIR. NOW, MOVING ON TO THE OTHER MATTER ON THE AGENDA.
AND ACTUALLY, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, SINCE WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT OF A CHAIR, I WOULD ACTUALLY HAND OVER THE MICROPHONE OVER TO MISS COLUMBUS TO TAKE OVER THE MEETING. NOT AT
[4. Approve minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission regular meeting on October 14, 2024.]
ALL. BE HAPPY TO HELP.NO. IT'S A IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENTS? DO YOU HAVE ANY.
OR IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING? MY PREFERENCE IS ALWAYS DO DO BROKE UP BY ACCLAMATION.
[5. Consider a request (2024-23) for approval of a replat by Amjed Najm of StarHill Engineers LLC, applicant, representing William K. Wells, owner, to replat from Red Bird Village, Lot 1, 5.488 Acres AND Lot 2, 0.345 Acres, on the properties more commonly known as 223 and 301 West Camp Wisdom, in the City of Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I WILL PROCEED WITH PRESENTING THIS ITEM AND WHAT'S BEFORE YOU AND THE REQUESTED ACTION THIS EVENING. SO WHAT WE HAVE IS A WE HAVE A, A REQUEST FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE PLAT FOR 2020, EXCUSE ME, 2023 AND 301 WEST CAMP WISDOM ROAD. THIS IS A REPLAT. IN ESSENCE, IT'S A CONSOLIDATION OF TWO LOTS. AND THEN RE SUBDIVIDING, IF YOU WILL, INTO BACK INTO TWO LOTS BUT CARVED OUT IN A IN A DIFFERENT MANNER LOT ONE LOT ONE IN THE ORIGINAL PLAT IS 5.4 ACRES APPROXIMATELY, AND LOT TWO IS 0.345 ACRES. THE TOTAL LOT AREA IS 5.8 ACRES, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AS PART OF THAT TO AND RECARVE RE SUBDIVIDE ONCE THEY'VE BEEN CONSOLIDATED AND CONTINUE WITH TWO LOTS OF RECOR, BUT WITH DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS AND DIFFERENT SQUARE FOOTAGES. SO HERE WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS JUST AN AERIAL MAP THAT DEPICTS, YOU KNOW, WHICH PROPERTY IS 20, 23 AND 301. AGAIN, THESE ARE LOTS ONE AND TWO. AND THIS IS ULTIMATELY WHAT IS BEING APPROVED. MEANING THAT ONCE YOU HAVE A CONSOLIDATION AND THEN YOU HAVE A RE SUBDIVISION, THIS IS ULTIMATELY WHAT IT WOULD BE LOOK LIKE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER IF YOU WILL, THIS IS LOT TWO. AND I WOULD USE MY MOUSE TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THIS IS THE NEW LOT TWO. AND THIS AREA BACK HERE IS THE NEW LOT ONE. IF YOU'D LIKE I CAN GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ILLUSTRATION. DID YOU KIND OF SHOW YOU THE BEFORE AND AFTER? BUT AGAIN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A CONSOLIDATION BUT A RECARVING OF THE PROPERTIES TO HAVE STILL CONTINUE WITH TWO LOTS AGAINST THIS IN THIS NEW PROPOSED WITH THIS NEW PLAT, YOU HAVE THIS AREA HERE DEFINED AS LOT ONE. AND THIS IS LOT TWO. BOTH ADHERE TO THE CITY'S. SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS. THESE WOULD BE CONFORMING LOTS THAT ADHERE TO THE GENERAL OFFICE RETAIL DISTRICT DISTRICT STANDARDS, MEANING THAT THE REQUIREMENT IS A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT AREA, 70 70FT MINIMUM LOT WIDTH, AND A MINIMUM DEPTH OF 100FT. AS YOU WILL SEE HERE IN THE BREAKDOWN. THE PROPOSED DIMENSIONS FOR LOT ONE IS THE LOT AREA IS TWO 254,000FT■!S. SO AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S BEYOND DEFINITELY WELL BEYOND THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENTS. THE LOT WIDTH IS 542FT APPROXIMATELY. AGAIN THE REQUIREMENT IS 70. THE LOT DEPTH TO THE WEST IS 528. AGAIN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE REQUIREMENT. IT'S DEFINITELY WELL BEYOND THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. AND THE SAME IS APPLICABLE FOR LOT. FOR LOT TWO, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS JUST THE PARAMETERS OF WHICH INCLUDE TO INCLUDE A SUBDIVISION OR A REPLAT. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS EXPECTED TO TAKE ACTION WITHIN 30 DAYS AND APPROVE THE REQUESTED ACTION, EITHER BY A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OR ULTIMATELY DENIAL. IN THIS INSTANCE, BECAUSE THE PLAT MEETS THE SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS AND STAFF. BY STAFF, I MEAN THE ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS TEAM HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED REPLAT, AND THEY SUPPORT THE REQUEST. SO THAT SAID STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE REPLAT.FOR THIS MATTER. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS. WHY? WHY DO THEY WANT TO DO THAT? I APOLOGIZE, I HAVE BEEN NOT BEEN INTIMATELY WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON THIS MATTER. MISS ROMERO HAS BEEN ASSISTING WITH THIS REPLAT, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY'RE LOOKING TO SELL OFF REAL ESTATE. AND THAT'S WHY THE NEED FOR THE REPLAT. AND THE. WELL, THIS IS JUST TO
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LEGALIZE THE USES AND MAKE SURE THAT EACH PARTY HAS ACCESS. AND THE PARAMETERS OF THE PROPERTY ARE CLEARLY DEFINED. SO IN THIS INSTANCE YOU HAVE YOU HAVE HERE 2023 AND 301 EACH ITS OWN SEPARATE LOT. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE OWNERSHIP POTENTIALLY OWNING THIS PART. AND THEN A SEPARATE PARTY POSSIBLY OWNING OF THE PROPOSED LOT TO. SO WE'RE GOING 21301. BEAR WITH ME. HERE IS LOT TWO IN THE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION. ORIGINAL LOT ONE. YEAH. MISS O'BRIEN, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO SELL THAT BUILDING ON THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER IN THE DISPLAY, THAT'S BEFORE YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLAT IT BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE A SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY JUST TO SELL OFF THAT BUILDING. SO BASICALLY THEY'RE TAKING 301 AND MAKING THAT A SEPARATE LOT SO THAT THAT PROPERTY CAN BE SOLD TO A SEPARATE OWNER. AND THEN THAT WOULD LEAVE THE REST OF WHAT USED TO BE 301 TO THE PRIMARY OWNER FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AS A PAD SITE, OR TO PRODUCE PARKING FOR THE MAIN USE AT 223. SO AT THIS TIME, IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING TO ADD ANY MORE INFORMATION TO THIS REQUEST, STAFF IS SEEKING A MOTION TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY THE PLAT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT. THE PROPERTY. IN THEIR SECOND. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BROWN. ALL IN. SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE PLANNING? THE. GREAT WORK THERE WITH YOU. LIKE ONE AND 2005. SO I, I. HEAR THAT MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I. OKAY. WE'RE WE'RE ITEM NUMBER SIX. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION AND[6. Conduct a public hearing (2024-19) for consideration and action regarding the request of Monte Anderson, applicant, for an amendment of a Planned Development on Wheatland Plaza Shopping Center, Blk 1, LT A & ABND ACS 7.502, more commonly known as 402 East Wheatland Road, City of Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]
ACTION REGARDING THE REQUEST OF MONTY ANDERSON, APPLICANT FOR AN AMENDMENT OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ON WHEATLAND PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER, BLOCK ONE, LOT A AND A, B AND D ACRES IS 7.502, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 402 EAST WHEATLAND ROAD, CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. THANK YOU. BEFORE PROCEEDING, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I WOULD REQUEST THE COMMISSION'S VOTE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A PUBLIC HEARING.AND SO I WOULD ASK A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM. IS THERE A MOTION? THANK YOU. SECOND. I'LL VOTE IN ALL IN FAVOR SAY I, I. OPPOSED NONE OPPOSED. AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED AT 716. AND THE RULES I DO NOT HAVE THE RULES FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING IN. THANK YOU.
YEAH. FOR THE COMPLETION. YES. THIS EVENING I WOULD ASK OR FOR THAT MATTER, REQUEST THAT THERE BE A SLIGHT CHANGE OF ORDER AS, AS OPPOSED TO THE PREVIOUS ONE WHERE STAFF HAD INITIATED THE
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PRESENTATION. THE REQUEST THIS EVENING IS FOR THE PETITIONER TO PRESENT THE MATTER. THE SLIDES THAT ARE UP ON THE SCREEN HAVE BEEN PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT AND WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THAT FIRST. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WILL CALL UP THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MONTY ANDERSON. I LIVE AT 1210 GREENLEAF HERE IN DUNCANVILLE. AND SO I WANT TO I THOUGHT WHAT I WOULD DO WAS GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING A LITTLE BIT TO KIND OF HELP, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THE LAST MEETING WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING, EVEN TO ME. AND SO I THOUGHT WE'D JUST GO BACK THROUGH IT A MINUTE. SO BEAR WITH ME, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS, SINCE OCTOBER 24TH, 2022 UP THERE, WHICH IS WHERE WE STARTED AND WHAT WAS APPROVED A LONG TIME AGO. AND THEN TONIGHT IS DECEMBER, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER 30TH, 2024. SO I'VE JUST GOT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH IT REAL QUICKLY. I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU WITH A BUNCH OF STUFF, BUT I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO LIKE SHOW WHERE WE CAME FROM FROM HERE. SO THIS IS WHEATLAND PLAZA, AS YOU SEE. IT'S THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE WHOLE PROPERTY AND THAT ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH THE MIDDLE CONNECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PART OF THE PROPERTY. IT IS NOT A CITY STREET. ALTHOUGH ONE DAY I HOPE TO MAKE IT, TO MAKE IT ONE A CITY PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, THIS WAS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS GIVEN TO. IN FACT, WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT PUBLIC MEETINGS, ONE WITH COUNCIL PEOPLE AND SOME AND THEN ANOTHER WITH SOME LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN WE HAD ABOUT 300 PEOPLE AT THE AT THE SENIOR CENTER. COME AND LOOK AT THIS PRESENTATION. AND BEFORE I DID IT, BEFORE I EVEN ASKED FOR IT, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WAS AGAINST IT OR DIDN'T WANT TO, DIDN'T WANT THIS, I WOULD HAVE WALKED AWAY AT THAT TIME. AND THE CONSENSUS WAS THEY WANTED PEOPLE IN THE CITY WANTED ME TO DO THAT. AND THE FIRST, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT WE STARTED WITH IS EVERY PD MUST CHOOSE A BASE ZONING AS A STARTING POINT FOR ANY PROPOSAL. AND THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES. HERE IS THIS STARTED WITH LOCAL OFFICE AND RETAIL. AND I HAD THAT FROM THE BEGINNING. AND REALLY THE USES, THE MAIN USES THAT I'M REQUESTING TONIGHT BE IN THE DAYCARE. AND THE OTHER THE OTHER COUPLE OF USES FIT UNDER THAT THAT RETAIL ZONING. IT FITS THERE. AND I WOULD HAVE NEVER GIVEN THAT UP. IN FACT, I THINK TONIGHT IT'S MORE OF A CLEANUP, YOU KNOW, OF PUTTING THAT BACK IN. IT'S MORE OF REALLY CLEANING THINGS UP BECAUSE I'M REALLY NOT TRYING TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAT I, THAT I STARTED WITH THE REST OF THOSE USES. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THEM IN PICTURES BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO LOOK AT PICTURES. BUT THIS IS WHAT I PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AT THE TIME MY ORIGINAL ZONING WAS APPROVED, IT HAD THE MULTIFAMILY OR WHAT WE WERE CALLING CONDO HOUSING, AND WE HAD BOUTIQUE HOTEL, SMALL AMOUNT OF ROOMS AND THEN SOME, CREATING FLEXIBILITY FOR BUILDING ENTRANCES AND ADJUSTING SOME OF THE OPEN SPACE WHICH WE'RE GOING TO SEE. AND I HAVE ALSO DONE THAT. OPEN SPACE CREATED THAT, THAT LANDSCAPING AND OPEN SPACE TODAY AND THEN SHARED PARKING. SO IN THE, IN THE IN THE VERY BEGINNING, THERE WAS GOING TO BE 1551 NEW UNITS OF, OF HOUSING, NOT RENTAL HOUSING. THAT WAS ACTUALLY A CONDO HOUSING BUILT OVER THE NEXT 2 TO 3 YEARS. AND THEY WERE GOING TO RENOVATE ABOUT 50,000FT■!S OF THE CENTER. IT'S 90,000FT■!S. AND WE'VE DONE THA. WE'VE DONE MOST OF IT. WE'RE FINISHING UP WHAT'S LEFT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE GREEN SPACE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE PARKING SPACES WITH THE AS, AS THEY SPELL OUT HERE. AND THEN IT ALSO ALLOWED US TO DO SOME KIOSK ALONG WHEATLAND ROAD, WHICH PROBABLY WON'T EVER HAPPEN. WE PROBABLY WON'T DO THOSE. SO. BUT ANYWAY, THOSE WERE THE THOSE WERE. AND THE WHOLE POINT WAS TO MAKE THIS THING BEAUTIFUL AND MAKE IT PRODUCE AGAIN AND NOT BE BAD FOR ANY, ANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THIS JUST GIVES YOU A SITE PLAN OF WHAT'S AROUND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HERE AND WHY I LIKE THE PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S SURROUNDED BY NEIGHBORHOODS AND CITY HALLS AND SCHOOL. AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF IT. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE, THE SKETCHES THAT THESE THESE ARE, THESE WILL COME TO LIFE MORE OVER TIME.THOSE WERE PROMISED AND THOSE WILL HAPPEN. AND THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE WORK AS IT HAS GONE ON SO FAR. WHEN WE STARTED OUT, WE WERE WE WERE 28% OCCUPIED. AND TODAY WE'RE 80. WE'RE 90, 95% LEASED. WE'RE NOT ALL DONE, BUT WE'RE 95% LEASED IN A TIME WHICH HAS BEEN VERY, VERY, YOU KNOW, VERY SLOW. SO THE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS, THE MAJOR REASONS I'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THOSE, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN, BUT REALLY TO CREATE THIS WALKABLE COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS THIS IS WHAT I RELATE THIS TO. IMAGINE THE THIS SHOPPING CENTER IS MAIN STREET, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME HOUSING IN THE MIDDLE. AND REMEMBER, IN THE OLD DAYS OF MAIN STREET, ABOUT 20% OF MAIN STREET, LIKE AN OLD CITY, WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT RETAIL AND THE REST WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE
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GOVERNMENT CENTERS AND ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, ACCOUNTING OFFICES, PETS, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT KINDS OF USES ON MAIN STREET. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THIS IS GOING TO BE, AGAIN, BECAUSE RETAIL IS NO LONGER, YOU KNOW, VIABLE FOR ALL RETAIL. SO IT'S A MIX OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF USES. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT THERE TODAY. AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PHOTO OF IT. AND THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN. SEE THIS SHOWS WHERE THE HOUSING WAS GOING TO GO. AND IT WAS THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION THAT SOME OF IT WAS GOING TO GO IN THE BACK AND NOTHING'S GONE IN THE BACK.THE ONLY THING WE'VE DONE BACK HERE IN THIS CORNER IS REALLY CREATE A BEAUTIFUL PARK BACK THERE WITH TREES AND LANDSCAPING. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO DONE THE LANDSCAPING, AS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN ACROSS THE FRONT. AND SO THIS IS STILL THIS IS STILL THE SAME. NONE OF THIS IS NONE OF THIS HAS CHANGED. AND SO IN THE ORIGINAL WE IT'S MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. BUT IT WAS IT WAS CONDOS. IT'S NOT NOT APARTMENTS. AND THAT'S CHANGING ANYWAY. I'M, I'M I'M CHANGING THAT. I'M DOWNSIZING THAT TO TOWNHOMES. AND WE'LL GET TO THAT IN JUST A SECOND. BUT THAT'S WHERE IT WAS GOING TO GO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING LOT. AND THIS IS WHAT IT COULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE. THE ZONING ALLOWED US. THE ZONING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ALLOWS US TO DO THIS. SOME THREE STORY AND SOME TWO STORY AND THREE IS CLOSER TO THE ROAD. AND THAT WAS SOME CONFUSION LAST TIME. BUT THIS IS THE PICTURE THAT THAT'S ALLOWED CURRENTLY AS AS IT IS, THIS IS NOT WHAT I'M DOING. AND WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT PUSHING THAT DOWN. AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN JUST A SECOND. SO THAT'S JUST A DIAGRAM OF, OF THE SITE, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PARKING LOT. AND THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE. BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO SOME OF THE SPACE RETAIL CONFIGURATIONS THAT WE DID, WE'VE WE'VE REMODELED LOTS OF THE STORES THAT ARE THERE AND PUT IN NEW STOREFRONTS AND CLEANED UP. WE REMOVED ASBESTOS AND WE'VE CLEANED UP THE STOREFRONTS, REMODELED AND DOING NEW SIGNAGE. WE'VE WE'VE KEPT OUR OUR WHAT I CALL LEGENDARY TENANTS LIKE BIG MIKE'S AND PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALLOWED US TO DO IN THE PAST, IT ALLOWED US TO ACTUALLY HAVE DOORS GOING OUT THE BACK OF THE CENTER. AND THIS IS LIKE A LITTLE RETAIL SPACE RIGHT HERE. AND IT USED TO LOOK LIKE THIS, AND NOBODY WANTED IT BECAUSE IT WAS TOO BIG. AND RETAIL IS NOT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE NEEDING SMALLER RETAIL. AND NOW WE HAVE IT AS TWO SPACES, ONE OUT THE FRONT AND ONE OUT THE BACK. AND THESE ARE MOSTLY LIKE LITTLE STUDIOS. AND THAT'S WHO RENTS RENTS THOSE RIGHT NOW. AND YOU CAN SEE THE BACK OF THE SHOPPING CENTER THE WAY IT LOOKED, IT WAS PRETTY BAD. AND THIS IS NOW A PARK BACK HERE. IF YOU'VE BEEN BACK THERE, IT'S ALL A NICE PARK. AND THEN MY OFFICES ARE HERE IN THE CO-LAB AND THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL IS A SMALL AREA IN THE, IN THE, IN THE REAR. AND WE'RE NOT EVEN DOING AS MUCH AS WE WERE. WE'VE, WE'VE EVEN DOWNSIZED THAT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THERE'S THE PARK AND THAT'S THERE. AND JUST SOME IMAGES OF, OF TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND THE FOOD HALL IS ALONG THE FRONT AND IT'S REALLY NOT A FOOD HALL ANYMORE. IT'S SEPARATE SPACES. IT'S WHERE THE, WHERE THE, THE MURAL IS ACROSS THE FRONT. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE LOTS OF LITTLE STOREFRONTS CUT IN THERE. AND THAT'S I'M NOT ASKING FOR A CHANGE. I'M JUST KIND OF DESCRIBING TO YOU WHAT'S GOING ON THERE JUST BE LITTLE BITTY RESTAURANTS ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE FRONT. SO IT'LL PROBABLY BE ABOUT 5 OR 6 DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS. THEY'RE MOSTLY SMALL FOR LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS AND THAT'LL THAT'LL END UP BEING THERE. AND THEY KIND OF LOOK LIKE THIS. WHEN YOU COME IN.
IT'LL BE SMALLER RESTAURANTS, NOT AS MANY TABLES AND A LOT OF A LOT OF GRAB AND GO KIND OF USES. LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN INDIAN RESTAURANT, I'VE GOT SIGNED UP AND THEN I'VE GOT A SALAD AND SANDWICH PLACE SIGNED UP AND THOSE KIND OF USES, THOSE ARE THE TWO. AND THEN I'M MOVING KIM AND JENNY'S TO THE FRONT, AND THEN WE'RE PUTTING A MEXICAN FOOD RESTAURANT IN KIM AND JENNY'S. SO WE'RE MOVING SOME THINGS AROUND. SO WE'LL HAVE SEVERAL THINGS GOING ON THERE.
AND THIS IS JUST SOME MORE IMAGES OF WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE. AND THEN JUST SOME, SOME OF THE STUFF IN THE FUTURE THAT'S COMING. AND THEN RECENTLY WE WON AN AWARD. THE DALLAS PLANNING COUNCIL GAVE US AN AWARD THAT'S ALL OVER THE NORTH TEXAS AREA. AND THIS IS THIS IS SOME OF THE IMAGES THAT WE SHOWED. AGAIN, THERE'S THE SITE PLAN. AND THIS IS WHAT THIS WILL REALLY GIVE YOU. I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS IMAGE BECAUSE THIS REALLY GIVES YOU A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT THAT MIDDLE AREA LOOKS LIKE TODAY. IF YOU IF YOU ALL DRIVEN BY THERE IS EVERYBODY SEEN THE FRONT THE LANDSCAPING. SO THIS IS ALL THE LANDSCAPING ACROSS THE FRONT. AND SEE HERE'S THE THIS IS GOING TO BE INSTEAD OF 51 CONDO MULTIFAMILY UNITS. IT'LL BE NOW WITH THE NEW ZONING WE'RE PUSHING IT DOWN. NOTHING WILL BE OVER TWO STORY AND IT'LL ONLY BE 16 TOWNHOMES. AND THESE ARE FOR SALE. THESE ARE GOING TO BE FOR SALE TOWNHOMES. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT COLORS OF SPACE. THIS IS THE SHOPPING CENTER AROUND. AND THERE'S MEDICAL HERE AND THERE'S
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HOSPITALITY. AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE TOWNHOMES AND THERE'S CO-WORKING WHICH THAT'S FINISHED. THERE'S RESTAURANT RETAIL. THERE'S SOME RETAIL, THERE'S SERVICES, THERE'S EDUCATION AND MUNICIPALITY USES. SO THIS IS VERY WHAT THIS IS VERY MUCH LIKE A MAIN STREET WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR MANY YEARS. AND SO YOU CAN REALLY GET, GET AN IMAGE OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. THE LITTLE TOWNHOMES THAT ARE THERE AND JUST ANOTHER IMAGE. AND THEN THESE ARE THE, THE TOWNHOMES AS THEY'RE LOOKING TODAY. THEY'RE VERY CONTEMPORARY FITS THE BUILDING STYLE OF THE BUILDINGS KIND OF PLAIN. AND YOU KNOW IT'S GOT A CONTEMPORARY LOOK TO IT. AND THIS IS WHAT THESE ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN WE GET THROUGH. AND YOU CAN SEE THE HEIGHT MAINLY I WANTED YOU TO SEE THE HEIGHT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE, THE, THE MAIN THING THAT THAT HAPPENED LAST TIME. SO THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD LOOK AT THAT AND JUST LOOK AT A UNIT, WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE INSIDE. AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE HIGH END UNITS. THEY'RE LIKE $300 A SQUARE FOOT. SO THEY'RE NOT CHEAP. THEY'RE PROBABLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN ANYTHING PER SQUARE FOOT IN DUNCANVILLE. SO THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT CHEAP APARTMENTS. THAT'S THAT WAS MY POINT IN SAYING THAT. THAT'S ALL I WANTED. THE REASON I SAID THAT THIS IS THE CO-WORKING SPACE TODAY. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN OVER THERE IN MY OFFICE IS BEHIND THIS WALL RIGHT HERE. AND THEN CO-WORKING IS HERE, AND WE'RE FILLING IT UP PRETTY FAST. AND THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE MAIN ROOM. JUST SOME OF THE IMAGES. AND THIS IS THE COLLECTIVE TATTOO AND ART STUDIO, WHICH IS, WHICH WAS AN APPROVED USED IN THE PD. AND IT'S DONE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S VERY IT'S VERY HIGH TECH AND VERY CLEAN AND VERY CONTEMPORARY. AND YOU KNOW, WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS BETTER. WE SPENT A LOT MORE MONEY ON FINISH OUT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO RAISE THE BAR AT WHEATLAND PLAZA. WE DIDN'T JUST WANT TO HAVE CHEAP SPACES WITH DROP CEILINGS, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED IT TO WE WANTED TO RAISE THE BAR. AND THAT'S THE REASON WE DID THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE. AS YOU LOOK AT IT, THERE'S ONE OF THE EVENTS WE HAD, I THINK THAT'S A CITY EVENT. AND THEN THERE'S THE AWARD RECIPIENT, THE GREATER DALLAS PLANNING COUNCIL, THAT GAVE US THIS AWARD, TOGETHER WITH OUR COMPANY AND THE CITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OF DUNCANVILLE. THEY GAVE IT TO US FOR OUR PLANNING EFFORTS AND BEING PROGRESSIVE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING AND CREATING A BEAUTIFUL THING OUT OF A OUT OF A SHOPPING CENTER THAT WAS LEFT, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABANDONED. IT'S ON THE TAX ROLLS FOR $3 MILLION. WHEN WE STARTED, IT'S ALREADY MOVED UP TO NEARLY 5 MILLION, AND ITS VALUE IS PROBABLY WORTH 17 OR 20 MILLION AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S MOVING UP VERY FAST. AND THAT'S REALLY EVERYTHING THAT THAT AWARD WE BEAT OUT LIKE A WHOLE LOT OF BIG TYPE DEVELOPMENTS ALL OVER, ALL OVER THE, THE REGION. I WAS SURPRISED BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME, YOU KNOW, HUGE STUFF THAT THAT HAPPENED. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAVE HERE. I WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MAINLY JUST TO SEE THE SHAPES THAT WE'RE REALLY STAYING TRUE TO WHAT WE FIRST, WE FIRST INTENDED TO DO. AND WE WANT TO PUT A DAYCARE IN, WE WANT TO PUT THE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES IN THERE. LICENSE PLATE RENEWAL FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, ONLY TWO IN THE WHOLE REGION. AND WE WANT TO PUT IN AND THAT'S ALREADY AN ALLOWED USE. BUT WE WANTED TO CLEAR IT UP TONIGHT AND MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAN AND LOOKS GOOD. IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU EXACTLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN THERE. THE DAYCARE WILL HAVE OUTDOOR, REAL OUTDOOR SPACE. I MEAN, BEAUTIFUL OUTDOOR SPACE, REAL GRASS, YOU KNOW, REAL REAL, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ROOMS ARE STRAIGHT INTO THE OUTDOORS SPACE. IT'S I MEAN, IT'S FIRST CLASS. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. IT'S LIKE OUR KIDS DESERVE BETTER THAN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE AROUND. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT WHEATLAND PLAZA IS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. AND THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAVE. AND I'M HERE, OF COURSE, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW OR YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO WHAT DO YOU WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE, MADAM CHAIRMAN? I WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO THE PREFERENCE OF THE COMMISSION. AND I DON'T WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE PUBLIC. MOVE ON. OH, SORRY, I FORGOT ABOUT THE MICROPHONE. I'M MOVING ON TO QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. LAST TIME THAT YOU WERE HERE, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH WHAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN WHAT WAS WHAT YOU WERE REQUESTING.ALTHOUGH YOU SAID IT WAS APPROVED, THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF ERROR ON THE SIDE OF CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE IT IN WRITING. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE NEVER GIVEN UP THAT RETAIL BASE ZONING. OKAY. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS APPROVED. I THOUGHT THAT WA.
AND IT'S IN THAT PRESENTATION THAT I SHOWED YOU IN THE BEGINNING AND BUT IT DIDN'T GET THAT DIDN'T GET INTO THE FINAL DOCUMENT. IT JUST DIDN'T GET THERE. HOWEVER, HOWEVER THAT HAPPENED, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST DIDN'T GET THERE. OKAY. SO WHAT I NEED TO KNOW IS HOW THAT CAN
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BE RESOLVED. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT. OKAY. AS FAR AS CLEANING, I MEAN, FOR ME IT'S A ZONING ISSUE. AND WHERE YOU HAVE THE ISSUE WHERE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ON THE BOOKS IS ANOTHER ISSUE. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE. I THINK I CAN CLEAR THIS UP THE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PDDS ARE APPROVED, SOMETIMES THEY ADD USES, SOMETIMES THEY REMOVE USES FROM WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING IS. THIS WAS A COMMERCIAL ZONED PIECE OF PROPERTY. WHEN THIS ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED, THERE WERE SPECIFIC USES THAT WERE APPROVED AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THEY DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE THE DAYCARE CENTER, AND THEY DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE A GOVERNMENT OR INSTITUTIONAL USE, SUCH AS THE DMV, IN THAT REGARD, MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE STAFF WAS TO BRING FORWARD A ZONING APPLICATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR THAT THOSE USES WERE PERMITTED. SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO AMEND THE PD TO INCLUDE A DAYCARE, A GOVERNMENT CENTER, OR INSTITUTIONAL USE. AND WHAT'S THE THIRD ONE? EDUCATION. EDUCATION AFTER SCHOOL AND AFTER SCHOOL EDUCATION OR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM AS PERMITTED USES. AND SO THAT'S WHAT MR. ANDERSON'S REQUEST IS. IT'S WITHIN YOUR PROVINCE TO GRANT THAT REQUEST. IF YOU THINK THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE. AND THEN THAT WAY WE WON'T LEAVE IT UP TO INTERPRETATION OR CONJECTURE, WHETHER IT WAS TO BE INCLUDED OR NOT INCLUDED. WE WANT TO AT LEAST INCLUDE IT NOW, IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE P AND Z, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. YES, THAT ANSWERED, THANK YOU.THAT THAT EXPLANATION WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE WERE TOLD ORIGINALLY. ORIGINALLY WE WERE TOLD THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OR THAT THE APPROVAL MISSED A DID NOT INCLUDE A BASE ZONING, AND SO THAT IT DID NOT. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO INCLUDE A BASE ZONING. SO THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR THE P, OKAY. IT CAN, BUT THIS ONE DID NOT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT MONTY SAID, THAT HE WAS CONFUSED. BUT THE ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED. APPROVED. ALISSA USES AND A USE OF DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FOR THAT TRACK OF LAND, WHICH IS WHAT A PD IS SUPPOSED TO DO SOMETIMES. THOSE PD'S ALSO INCLUDE THESE USES, PLUS CERTAIN USES OUT OF THE BASE ZONING.
THAT ORDINANCE DID NOT INCLUDE OTHER USES OUT OF THE BASE ZONING. OKAY, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC USES. IS THIS IS THAT OKAY TO ASK? I'M ASKING IF IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.
OKAY. WE'LL LET YOU KNOW. I'M INTERESTED IN WHERE THE DAYCARE IS GOING. AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THERE'S SOME OUTSIDE SPACE, AND I'M JUST NOT ABLE TO VISUALIZE WHERE THAT COULD BE.
OKAY, YOU'RE WITH ME ON THIS. THIS IS THE THIS IS THE OUTDOOR GARDEN. AND THEN THERE'S AN OUTDOOR PLAYGROUND RIGHT HERE. AND I HAVE SOME MORE PHOTOS OF IT, TOO. I DIDN'T HAVE THEM UP HERE, BUT I CAN PASS THEM AROUND. BUT THIS IS WHERE IT'LL GO. RIGHT HERE NEXT TO THE KARATE. THE KARATE STUDIO. AND IT GOES RIGHT THERE. THE GARDEN WAS PUT IN THERE SPECIFICALLY FOR A DAYCARE. YES. OKAY. THEY OUT. PART OF IT IS FENCED AND PART OF IT IS NOT. SO THE PART THAT'S FENCED IS GOT SOME RUBBER AND SOME DIRT AND YOU KNOW SCOT. AND THEN THE PART THAT'S OUTSIDE THE FENCE IS ALL GRASS. SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE SUPERVISION TO BE OUTSIDE IN THE GRASS. THEY'RE LITTLE. IT'S 2 TO 5 YEAR OLDS. MY OTHER QUESTION IS REGARDING THE DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES USE. IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THAT WOULD BE A VERY BUSY OFFICE. AND I'M WONDERING ABOUT PARKING AND TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE WITH A BUSY OFFICE LIKE THAT. YEAH, IT WE ALREADY WE'RE OKAY ON PARKING. WE'VE WE HAVE A PARKING STUDY AND THEY GET THAT WITH WE'VE ALREADY TURNED THAT IN.
WE'RE OKAY ON PARKING AND IT IS BUSY AND WE WANT THE BUSYNESS. BUT IT'S 8 TO 5 BUSY. SO WHEN THE RESTAURANTS AND STUFF ARE BUSY AT NIGHT THEY'LL BE GONE. SO WE WANT PEOPLE. THIS GIVES A REASON FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO OUR CITY, TO SPEND MONEY TO, YOU KNOW, SO ALL OF THE PIECES WORK TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, SOME ARE THERE DURING THE DAY, SOME ARE THERE AT NIGHT, SOME ARE THERE EARLY. AND SO ALL OF THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN LOOKED AT AS FAR AS THE PARKING, THE PARKING GOES.
AND SO AND PLUS WE'RE WE AGAIN DOWNSIZING THE RESIDENTIAL. WE'RE WE'RE EVEN MORE WE HAVE
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MORE PARKING AVAILABLE THAN WE DID WHEN WE FIRST GOT THE ZONING DONE. AND IT'S AN OFFICE USE.IT'S OFFICE USE REALLY. SO IT CAN REALLY FIT UNDER OFFICE USE. BUT CITY ATTORNEY WANTED IT CLEAR WANTED US TO BE COMPLETELY CLEAR AND OPEN ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE MONEY. WHERE WHERE ABOUTS? I THINK PART OF YOUR QUESTION IS WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE LOCATED IN THE CENTER AS WELL. YEAH, IT'S OVER HERE IN THE BACK PART OF THE RIGHT, HERE IN THE BACK PART OF THE OLD VINEYARDS. THIS THIS RIGHT HERE. JUST THIS IS THIS PART. HERE IS THE CO-LAB. THIS IS, WELL, MED AND THEN THIS IS THE DMV. AND THEN THESE ARE THE, THE LITTLE RESTAURANTS ALL AROUND. AROUND THE FRONT RIGHT HERE. WAIT, I HAVE A QUESTION. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHEN YOU WERE HERE BEFORE HAD TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT THE PERMISSIBLE USES OF, OF, OF YOUR PROPERTY WOULD CONTINUE OR IF THEY WOULD CHANGE, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME AND ON. I'M LOOKING HERE AT NUMBER FOUR BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH NUMBER TWO SAYS YOU HAVE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO BY RIGHT. NUMBER FOUR SAYS LIKE CHANGING LANGUAGE INCLUDE LANGUAGE TO ALLOW THAT WHERE IT SAYS ALL USES PERMITTED UNDER THE EXISTING USE CHART TO REMAIN PERMISSIBLE FOR THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT DURATION. AND IT HAS SEVERAL OTHER THINGS. IS THERE A REASON WHY THIS IS INCLUDED? IF IT'S I GUESS IT'S I'M ASSUMING THAT THEN IT IS NOT A ALLOWABLE RIGHT PER SE UNDER THE DESIGNATION YOU HAVE FOR YOUR PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, SO I HAVE A HARD TIME COMMENTING ON THAT. BUT I WILL SAY IT. I RECALL WHEN I DRAFTED THE ORDINANCE, THERE WAS A LIST OF USES THAT DID NOT SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE THE THINGS THAT MR. ANDERSON IS WANTING US TO ADD. SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO ADD ALL THE OTHER COMMERCIAL USES, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S IN THE APPLICATION. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU CAN USE IT FOR ANYTHING THAT'S UNDER THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, BECAUSE MY RECOLLECTION IS THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO SEE IN THAT CENTER. AND SO WE PRODUCED THAT LIST THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE TODAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE READING FROM WHAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE TODAY OR WHAT THE REQUEST IS IN THE APPLICATION. I'M READING FROM PAGE TWO OF ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA.
AND THIS MAY BE AN ITEM THAT IS ADDRESSED BY STAFF. I'M NOT SURE IT'S RELATED TO THE TABLE YOU GUYS CREATED I BELIEVE. SO AS PART OF THIS PETITION, MR. ANDERSON HAS REQUESTED TO AMEND THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES TO ALLOW AND INCLUDE ALL THE ALL THE PERMITTED USES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PERMITTED UNDER THE BASE ZONING OF THE LAW DISTRICT BEFORE THE ADOPTION OF THIS PD TO BE INCLUDED AS WELL IN THE PD ORDINANCE, AND IF THERE'S ANY EVER ANY CHANGE TO THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES IN THE ORIGINAL BASE OR THE OTHER ZONING, THAT ANY CHANGES WOULD ALSO BE BE.
CARRIED OVER TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND THE OTHER WAY AROUND, IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES THAT IN THE ORIGINAL LAW BASED DISTRICT OF ANY USES THAT GET REMOVED, THAT THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY PERMITTED, THAT THEY BE GRANDFATHERED IN. SO IT JUST WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR. AND I'LL ASK HIM TO CLARIFY THIS. IF ANY OF THIS IS INCORRECT, WHAT IN ESSENCE HE'S ASKING FOR IS FOR THE BASE ZONING THAT MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL CREATION OF THE PD, TO BE INCLUDED, TO GIVE HIM A BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN ATTRACTING OTHER TENANTS DOWN THE ROAD.
WHILE HE HAS MOST OF THE SPACES COMMITTED, I. MY UNDERSTANDING IS ASIDE FROM THE RESTAURANT USES, HE HAS ABOUT 90% 90% OF THE CENTER COMMITTED ALREADY, BUT HE'S LOOKING FOR SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD. IF THERE IS ANY TENANTS THAT LEAVE THAT HE HAS A BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE USES AND THAT THOSE USES ARE UNDERLINED IN THE UNDERLYING LAW DISTRICT. MR. ANDERSON, AM I INCORRECT WITH THAT? YEAH. YES, MA'AM. IF I MEAN, IN THE VERY BEGINNING, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LAW AS A BASE AND THEN THE CHANGES ON TOP, THEY EITHER TAKE AWAYS OR GIVES. IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE GONE, BECAUSE IF IT WAS GONE, THEN I COULDN'T DO ANY OF THE USES THAT ARE THERE.
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I COULDN'T KEEP THE BARBERSHOPS THERE. I COULDN'T KEEP THE I COULDN'T KEEP THE DOLLAR STORE THERE. I COULDN'T KEEP THE T MOBILE THERE. I COULDN'T KEEP ANY OF THOSE THERE. SO THAT LAW ALLOWS ME TO KEEP THOSE USES THERE OR REPLACE THEM. SO THE LAW IS JUST A REGULAR IS WHAT OUR RETAIL CENTERS ARE NEARLY ALL OVER TOWN. AND SO I'M YOU KNOW, I'M ASKING FOR THAT, THAT BASE TO STAY AND THEN THESE USES TO BE TO BE ADDED. SO I'M REALLY NOT REALLY NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN I STARTED OUT WITH THE FIRST TIME I WENT THROUGH PLANNING AND ZONING. I'M REALLY JUST ASKING TO TAKE A RETAIL CENTER AND DO A FEW THINGS TO IT. THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WAS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR. I'M NOT. AND TO, TO ADD SOME LANDSCAPING AND DO SOME, YOU KNOW, I'M THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. I'M NOT I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THIS THE EXISTING USE CHART THAT IS REFERRED TO IN ITEM NUMBER FOUR. SO WHAT WE GAVE YOU IS JUST THAT TABLE COMPARISON. AND IT'S A COMPARISON OF ALL THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN THE LAW DISTRICT VERSUS WHAT'S THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE APPROVED ORDINANCE. AS, AS A COMPARISON HERE. JUST AS A MATTER OF FACT, A FEW SECONDS AGO THE ATTORNEY REQUESTED A COPY OF THAT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE IT. SO I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO GO GET THAT SO HE CAN HAVE THE SAME DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF HIM THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. RIGHT THERE.ARE WE DOING THAT? MAY I ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION? AS FAR AS MIXED USE AREAS HERE IN DUNCANVILLE, ABOUT HOW MANY ARE THOSE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE MIXED USE AREAS? I MEAN, IS IT JUST THE ONE ON IS THAT MAIN STREET, MAIN STREET HAS GOT MIXED USES. I'M NOT SURE IF OTHER PLACES DO.
I THINK IN THE COMP PLAN, I THINK THERE'S SOME STUFF IN THE COMP PLAN THAT THAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, TALKS ABOUT MIXED USES, BUT I DON'T THINK THE ZONING HAS BEEN DONE. I ONLY THINK ONLY PLACES I KNOW OF MIXED USES RIGHT NOW ARE MAIN STREET AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AROUND AROUND CITY HALL IN THOSE AREAS. ARE YOU WONDERING ABOUT HIS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY OR JUST ACROSS ANY DEVELOPERS IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE? NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT OTHER DEVELOPERS MIXED USE IN THE CITY? BUT I SUPPOSE WE COULD START WITH HIS SINCE HE'S IN FRONT OF US. I HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAIN STATION IS MIXED USE. I MEAN, SOME OF THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT ARE LIKE MAIN STATION AND LIKE 111 EAST DAVIS AND 212 NORTH MAIN. THOSE ARE MIXED USE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT. BUT MAIN STREET ALLOWS FOR MIXED USE ZONING. IS IT? IN AS FAR AS THE ONE BEFORE US? HOW IS THIS A PROVEN ON YOUR PART OR WHAT ARE YOU DOING DIFFERENT? OR WHAT CAN WE EXPECT AS FAR AS WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? I MEAN, THIS IS I MEAN, I CONSIDER THIS SOME OF MY BEST WORK TO DATE. AND I WORKED ALL OVER FROM OAK CLIFF TO DESOTO TO MIDLOTHIAN TO DUNCANVILLE. THIS IS MY HOME. THIS IS MY THIS IS IN FACT, THIS IS REALLY THIS IS CUTTING EDGE IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THESE VACANT RETAIL SHOPPING CENTERS. THIS IS CUTTING EDGE STUFF. AND WE'RE BEING RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY FOR THIS.
AND MAIN STATION WAS RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY. AND THIS THIS WILL BE TOO I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS CUTTING EDGE STUFF BECAUSE RETAIL CENTERS ARE DYING, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE THEY GOT TO SOMETHING'S GOT TO HAPPEN WITH THEM. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CREATING IS LIKE NOT ONLY MIXED USES, BUT LIKE SMALL ENTREPRENEURIAL RETAIL SPACES WHERE LOCALS, LOCAL PEOPLE CAN START WITH LESS MONEY, THEY CAN START WITH LESS. I'M ALSO CREATING OWNER OCCUPANT PROPERTIES HERE, WHERE AS THE CENTER GOES, YOU KNOW, I DIE ONE DAY AND SOMEBODY ELSE OWNS THIS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I MEAN, EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THE OWNERSHIP OF THE TOWNHOMES IS GOING TO KIND OF LIKE BE A GUARD. I CALL THEM MY GUARDS. THEY KIND OF GUARD THIS
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THING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT THEY'VE GOT THINGS THEY AGREE TO DO TOGETHER. RIGHT? THEY PARK TOGETHER, THEY DO LANDSCAPING TOGETHER. THEY DO. SO IT KIND OF IT KIND OF MAKES THE THING SELF-SUSTAINING PAST ME. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT BUILDING REAL CITY BACK, BUILDING REAL MAIN STREET BACK INTO TO OUR, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE WE COULD DO A LOT MORE OF THIS ON CAMP WISDOM ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, OTHER PLACES IN TOWN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, PLACES TO, TO GO OUT TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIMITED WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT. SO THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY GROW IS TO BUILD ON TOP OF SOME OF THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT MAKE IT MORE WALKABLE AND MORE DENSE. I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE ALREADY WALKING TO THE PROPERTY A LOT MORE BECAUSE THERE'S THINGS TO DO. THERE'S THINGS TO WALK TO, YOU KNOW, AT NIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN UP THERE, BUT IF THE TAEKWONDO AND THE LIBERAL ARTS TRAINING CENTER AND, YOU KNOW, THE EVEN THE DOLLAR STORE AND THE HAIR, THE BARBERSHOPS AND THE T-MOBILE AND DOMINO'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE IT'S ACTUALLY LIVELY AT NIGHT. AND IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, IT WAS IT WAS VERY DEAD, YOU KNOW, BEFORE. AND SO THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA. I MEAN, I TRULY IT'S REALLY TOUGH ON ME TO COME HERE AND TO DO ALL THIS BECAUSE I TRULY AM TRYING TO DO A GOOD PROJECT. I MEAN, I AM SINCERELY, TRULY, AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE NORMAL THING WITH DEVELOPERS, BUT I DON'T HAVE A REPUTATION FOR DOING STUFF BAD TO CITIES, I JUST DON'T. I DO GOOD STUFF WHEREVER I GO, AND I FIX STUFF THAT'S OLD AND BEAT UP THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. AND CREATING THIS, MAKING THIS A MORE RELEVANT, YOU KNOW, TAX BASE AND MORE FUN PLACE TO BE.AND, YOU KNOW, A PLACE TO HAVE ANOTHER OPTION OF THE TYPE OF HOUSING YOU WANT TO LIVE IN. WE HAVE A LOT OF BABY BOOMERS AND SINGLE SINGLE WOMEN LIVING, YOU KNOW, FROM 60 TO 100 YEARS OLD THAT NEED DIFFERENT KINDS OF LIVING SPACES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LIKE WE WERE IN 1970, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ALL NEEDED THESE BIG HOUSES OUT HERE BECAUSE THE WORLD IS DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND WE HAVE TO CHANGE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE CHANGING WITH IT, YOU KNOW, WITH AND PHILOSOPHY THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ZONING. JUST MY PHILOSOPHY OF, OF REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT. WHAT I THINK ABOUT. SO QUESTION LAST TIME, I BELIEVE THERE WERE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORS HERE AS WELL. SINCE THAT MEETING. WHAT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE OR WHAT HAS CHANGED, OR MAYBE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN HAD WITH THAT ADDRESSED OR TOOK THOSE CONCERNS INTO CONSIDERATION. BUT I THINK SOME OF THEM, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE BUILDING STUFF IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, LIKE LIKE RIGHT HERE. I THINK ONE LADY THAT'S THAT'S I CAN'T REMEMBER HER NAME, BUT SHE LIVES BACK HERE.
AND SHE THOUGHT I WAS BUILDING STUFF BACK HERE. AND SHE SAW THAT I BUILT A BEAUTIFUL GARDEN BACK THERE. OKAY. AND ALSO CREATED A GREEN FENCE WHICH WHICH IS IN WHICH IS I'M REQUIRED TO DO. AND I MEAN, WHAT COULD SHE SAY? BECAUSE I'M BUILDING SOMETHING THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, AND TO BUILD IN THE FRONT, TO PUT THE LANDSCAPING IN THE FRONT, YOU KNOW, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I MEAN THAT THE COST OF THAT IS EXTREME, YOU KNOW, FOR DOING THAT. BUT IT'S VITAL TO MAKE THESE CENTERS LOOK GOOD, YOU KNOW, IT'S VITAL. AND SO ALL OF THAT GOT DONE. SO DURING THOSE LAST FEW MONTHS, ALL OF THAT GOT DONE. SO I THINK MORE PEOPLE ARE REALLY SEEING AND THEY COME IN TO SEE COLAB. AND YOU COME IN TO SEE THINGS AND YOU SEE IT'S THIS IS GOOD. THIS IS AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE LEARNING THIS TOGETHER. I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I SAY ABOUT CUTTING EDGE AND THIS STUFF IS THAT WE'RE LEARNING THIS TOGETHER AND HOPEFULLY ZONING GOING FORWARD WILL BE BETTER. YOU KNOW, Y'ALL WILL BE BETTER. YOU KNOW WE'LL BE. BUT WE'RE LEARNING. YOU KNOW, THIS IT'S A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED COMPLEX WHEN YOU MIX USES AND THINGS. BUT I THINK IT'S VITAL FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO DO IT AND TO BE GOOD AT IT. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WEREN'T THE RESIDENTS COMPLAINING ABOUT MAYBE THE NOISE LEVEL AT DIFFERENT TIMES? THAT WAS FOR CONSTRUCTION. THAT WAS WHAT HAPPENED, THAT THEY WERE THEY HAD A BIG CONCRETE TRUCK BACK THERE, AND THEY STARTED BEFORE 7 A.M. A COUPLE OF DAYS, AND THAT'S WHEN WE PUT A STOP TO THAT AS SOON AS WE FOUND OUT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T START CONSTRUCTION BEFORE 7 A.M. THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE. THAT'S ALL DONE, THOUGH. THERE'S NO MORE CONSTRUCTION IN THE BACK OF THE BUILDINGS ANYMORE. I JUST HAVE TWO QUICK THINGS YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT A. ONE OF THE USES WAS A MAYBE A HOTEL BOUTIQUE, AND THERE WAS LIKE TWO MAJOR HOTELS. RIGHT ON. IT'S. SAY THAT AGAIN. I'M SORRY, MA'AM, DID YOU
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MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT A POSSIBLE HOTEL? ANOTHER HOTEL? AND. YEAH, BACK HERE IN THIS THIS AREA, IN OUR IN OUR ZONING RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE WE HAVE A THIS IS WHERE THE WHERE THE DAYCARE IS. AND SO WHERE THE DAYCARE IS GOING TO GO. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE AS MUCH OF THOSE HOTEL ROOMS. THERE WAS LIKE 12 OF THEM. 12 HERE THEY ARE RIGHT HERE. THEY'RE LIKE HIGH END. THEY'RE LIKE HIGH END BOUTIQUE REALLY KIND OF LIKE FOR WEDDING TYPE THINGS, YOU KNOW, LIKE BOUTIQUE KIND OF. AND THE DAYCARE IS GOING HERE. NOW. THIS WAS JUST A CONCEPT PLAN BACK IN THE BEGINNING. THE DAYCARE IS GOING HERE, SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THERE. AND THESE MAY NOT EVER BE THERE EITHER. BUT THE ZONING CURRENTLY ALLOWS ME TO DO THAT. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY REALLY HIGH END HOTELS IN THE WHOLE AREA. I THINK IN DUNCANVILLE, I WISH WE HAD A HIGHER END HOTEL IN OUR DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, AROUND OUR DOWNTOWN SOMEWHERE, BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY. I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME GOOD HOTELS, I MEAN, BUT CLEAN HOTELS. BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING HIGHER FOR LIKE, WEDDINGS AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'D HAVE IN A YOU WOULD, MIGHT WANT SPECIAL DAYS, THAT KIND OF THING. IT'S ALREADY IT'S IN THE PREVIOUS ZONING. DID YOU SAY YOU HAD SOME PICTURES OF THE GREEN AREAS THAT YOU. YOU KNOW, START THERE. THAT'S THAT'S THE, THE AREA. I GOT MORE PICTURES OF WHAT THE INSIDE OF. THAT WITH THE GRAVEL. THAT'S THAT RUBBER STUFF THAT GOES DOWN. BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BACK THERE, YOU SHOULD DRIVE BACK THERE BECAUSE. VERY HIGH END STUFF. I DON'T KNOW ASPHALT PARKING LOT AND THROUGH THROUGH. AND I SAID THAT'S. HERE. BUT THAT'S NOT FOR US. SO THAT'S. NOT I HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS PUTTING THAT DAYCARE IN A CERTAIN AREA. ARE THERE RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS THE PROXIMITY OF PLACES THAT ARE LIKE HOTELS? SO ALCOHOL OR TOBACCO WITHIN CERTAIN FOOTAGE OF A DAYCARE WITHIN THIS PROPOSED PLAN, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT UNDER STATE LAW THAT IF YOU'RE WITHIN 300FT FROM PORTAL TO PORTAL OF A PLACE THAT SERVES ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, THAT IT MAY IMPACT THE ABILITY OF THE LICENSEE TO GET A LICENSE. IT'S WAIVABLE BY THE CITY. THE ZONING ITSELF WON'T MATTER. OKAY, SO IF THAT MOTEL OR HOTEL OR WHATEVER HAD A ESTABLISHMENT OR A LOCAL BAR INSIDE OF IT, IT WON'T, IT WON'T, IT WON'T. THE RESTAURANTS. CURRENTLY, NONE OF THE RESTAURANTS THERE SERVE ALCOHOL. NONE OF THEM DO. AND THERE IS NO TOBACCO. IN FACT, I WILL NOT LEASE TO A VAPE SHOP OR A TOBACCO OR TO A CONVENIENCE STORE. IN FACT, I THINK WE MAY HAVE REMOVED SOME OF THOSE. THE ORIGINAL PD, WE MAY HAVE TAKEN THEM OUT, BUT YOU CAN'T PUT THOSE. IF YOU NOTICE, I GET A I GET A CALL FROM A VAPE SHOP TOBACCO SHOP EVERY WEEK AT LEAST. I MEAN AT LEAST ONE A WEEK. AND THERE'S NOT THERE'S YOU HADN'T SEEN ME PUT ONE OF THOSE IN, AND I'M NOT GOING TO. SO. OKAY, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. YOU SAID EARLIER THAT THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS TO HELP FACILITATE AND UPGRADE THE. SHOPPING MALLS THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, LAID TO BLIGHT IN DUNCANVILLE AND IMPROVING THE OVERALL QUALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT THESE THE QUALITY OF YOUR BUILD IS NOT CHEAP, QUOTE UNQUOTE, AND THAT THE CONDOS OR TOWNHOMES ARE OF HIGH QUALITY. WOULD A NORMAL PERSON WHO LIVES IN DUNCAN WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE THERE? YES. OKAY. YES. THEY'RE SMALL ENOUGH.THEY'LL BE UNDER 325,000. THEY'LL BE UNDER THAT. SO YES, PEOPLE THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE HIGH QUALITY, BUT THEY'RE AFFORDABLE. AND SO YES, THAT'S BECAUSE I WOULD I WOULD NOT BE SMART TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT MARKETABLE IN DUNCANVILLE. NOW DO THEY PUSH THE LIMIT A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING HIGH QUALITY. THAT'S THAT'S LIKE THIS IN A TOWNHOME. WE DON'T HAVE ANY REALLY. BUT YES, FOR SURE, I JUST IT'S HARD FOR ME TO
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BELIEVE THAT THE $325 AVERAGE PERSON THAT LIVES IN DUNCAN WILL BE ABLE TO GET QUALIFIED OR APPROVED FOR THAT TYPE OF LOAN. I DIDN'T SAY THE AVERAGE PERSON, BUT THERE'S PEOPLE HERE. THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M ONLY BUILDING 16. IT'S NOT FOR EVERYBODY, BUT IT WOULD BE FOR MOSTLY I WOULD SEE THIS AS BEING FOR BABY BOOMERS WHO'VE DOWNSIZED FROM A BIG HOUSE. YOU KNOW, MAYBE SINGLE HUSBANDS DIED OR WIVES DIED AND THEY CAN MOVE IN. SO THERE'S NO FLEXIBILITY AS FAR AS BECAUSE I KNOW CERTAIN PLACES HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF UNITS SET ASIDE JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO GET THAT HEAD START. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO INCREASE THE USES. BOUTIQUE HOTEL USE IS ALREADY PERMITTED. AND THIS AIN'T ABOUT TAKING THAT AWAY. SO THE REAL QUESTION IS DO YOU WANT TO EXPAND THE USES TO INCLUDE LOWER USES AS A RIGHT? AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I'VE LOOKED AT THE CHART THAT WAS HANDED TO ME. AND THE ONLY THING THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE THAT HE COULD HAVE IF YOU GOT THAT BASE ZONING WAS A COUNTRY CLUB, A PRIVATE PARK, A PUBLIC PARK. AND A CELL TOWER. ON THIS IT SAID CIVIC CLUB. HE WOULD CIVIC CLUBS NOT ALLOWED IN LAW. I'M SAYING HE ONLY GETS ADDITIONAL USES IF YOU DO THE LAW. HE ALREADY HAS THE RIGHT FOR A CIVIC CLUB, LIKE A MASONIC HALL. OKAY, WELL, DO YOU HAVE CLARIFICATION ON THE ONE THAT I ASKED ABOUT THE PERMISSIBLE USES? YES. THERE'S THE CHART YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU HAS THE PERMITTED BY RIGHT VIA PD. THAT'S EVERYTHING HE'S ENTITLED TO TODAY. THE SECOND COLUMN IS EVERYTHING THAT HE WOULD GET IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS ALREADY PERMITTED. AND THE ONLY THINGS I CAN FIND ARE A LOCAL UTILITY, DISTRIBUTION LINES, A WIRELESS COMMUNICATION TOWER, A COUNTRY CLUB, A PRIVATE PARK AND A PUBLIC PARK. OTHERWISE HE'S GOT L ALL THE LAW. OKAY, OKAY. MY QUESTION WASN'T ABOUT THE LR, IT WAS THE PART ABOUT IT SAID INCLUDE LANGUAGE TO ALLOW, WHICH WAS NOT ABOUT THE LR WHERE IT SAYS THAT ANYTHING THAT ANYTHING THAT HE THAT'S ALREADY THERE, THAT HE WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN AND THEN ANYTHING THAT ANY CHANGES OR IF ANY DELETIONS BY THE PLANNING THAT THEY WOULD ALSO WHAT'S THERE NOW THAT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED WITH L OR BASE OR WHAT'S PERMITTED. THAT'S A QUESTION, NOT A STATEMENT. OKAY. I WANT TO JUST BE ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU CAN NORMALLY DO IN A SHOPPING CENTER WITH THESE THESE MINING. YOU SAID THAT THE LAW DESIGNATION WAS WHAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY AT THE TIME YOU PURCHASED IT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THE LIST THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TODAY THAT YOU HAD THEN, EXCEPT FOR A CELL TOWER. I BELIEVE THAT A COUNTRY CLUB, A PRIVATE PARK, A PUBLIC PARK, AND. THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING CONFUSED. THERE'S A BUNCH OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED BY SUPP. THOSE AREN'T ALLOWED BY RIGHT. THOSE ARE ALLOWED BECAUSE WE GET A LOOK AND SEE AT THEM THROUGH AN SUPP PROCESS, THROUGH A PD. YOU JUST AMEND THE PD TO INCLUDE THAT USE MUCH AS YOU'RE DOING TONIGHT. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M DRAWING. MY CONFUSION IS I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GETTING OR TAKING AWAY ANYTHING YOU ALREADY DON'T HAVE THAT I'M AWARE OF. I THINK I THINK THAT THIS IS BASICALLY A FORMALITY, AND I DON'T THINK THAT HE'S ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THAT AREA. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. WOULD YOU ALSO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND. APPROVE THAT? BEFORE WE MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ALL COMMISSIONERS HAVE THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US, FOR RESIDENTS TO SPEAK.SO THERE'S OTHER PARTS. THERE ARE THE ONLY. OH, OKAY. DIDN'T REALIZE THAT OKAY. SO COMMISSIONERS ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. MADAM CHAIRMAN, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THEN IS MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM AS PRESENTED BY STAFF AND MR. ANDERSON. IS THAT RIGHT, MISS BROWNING? THAT'S NOT THE MOTION I HEARD YET, IS THAT I WOULD
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LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE MOTION AS PRESENTED IS. THAT SECOND OR SECOND? JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MOTION WOULD INCLUDE WAS TO DESIGNATE THE LOCAL OFFICE RETAIL AS THE BASE ZONING, TO ADD CHILD DAYCARE, COMMUNITY CENTER, LIBRARY, CIVIC CLUB, GOVERNMENT OR PUBLIC OFFICE, AND AN AFTER SCHOOL USE FOR SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN. SO THE MOTION WOULD JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. I DON'T HAVE A PAGE NUMBER ON ON MINE, BUT THE MOTION TO APPROVE WOULD INCLUDE, AS WAS STATED, DESIGNATING THE OLD LAW AS THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT, ALLOWING THE FOLLOWING USES THE CHILD DAYCARE, COMMUNITY CENTER, LIBRARY, CIVIC CLUB. DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES, THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM NUMBER THREE REQUIRE THAT THE NON RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS OVER 1000FT■!S HAVE A FLAT ROOF WITH A THREE FOOT PARAPET PARAPET WALL TO SCREEN ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT, AND WHICH MUST BE SET BACK AT LEAST FIVE FEET FROM THE ROOF EDGE. NUMBER FOUR. AND THAT TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE TO ALLOW ALL USES PERMITTED UNDER THE EXISTING USE CHART TO REMAIN PERMISSIBLE FOR THE PD DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE DURATION. ALL FUTURE USES ADDED TO THE BASE ZONING TO BE PERMITTED. SUITES WITHIN WHEATLAND PLAZA, PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY A PERMITTED USE UNDER THIS ORDINANCE. TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE UNDER THAT SAME USE AND EXCLUDE NEW OCCUPANCY RELATED CONDITIONS OR REQUIREMENTS FOR SUITES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED OR LISTED UNDER THE CURRENT USE CHART. AS OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE, AND NUMBER FIVE LIMIT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STORIES IN THE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING BOUNDARY TO TWO STORIES. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT RIGHT? SO THAT THAT IS THE REQUEST IN ITS ENTIRETY. SO HEARING NO SECOND, I'M NOT QUITE SURE. WELL WE.OH IS THERE A SECOND FROM THE. THERE BEING NO SECOND FLOOR STILL OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. A MOTION WE ARE ALSO COULD AMEND. WELL I MEAN I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WHAT ARE PEOPLE'S CONCERNS IF WHAT WHAT WHAT ARE ARE THERE THINGS IN HERE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE REMOVED OR AMENDED? BECAUSE I JUST I DON'T SEE. MY CONCERN IS THE FUTURE USE OF WHAT IT MIGHT BE IS NOT DETERMINED. THINGS LIKE SOCIAL CLUBS AND CIVIC CLUBS, WHATEVER THAT IS. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS. OKAY, THEN THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO. COULD I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO MOVED. SO. SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER O'BRIEN. PUBLIC HEARING CLOSES AT 805.
NOW ENTERTAINING. DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION OR FURTHER MOTIONS. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CIVIC CLUBS AND SOCIAL CLUBS, WHATEVER. THAT IS WHAT IT ENTAILS, WHAT IT MIGHT BRING AS FAR AS UNDESIRED OUTCOMES FOR THIS PARTICULAR PLACE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO AMEND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT? YES. AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT. AND WHAT WOULD WE WHAT'S THE AMENDMENT THAT YOU RESTRICT THE ACCESS OF SOCIAL CLUBS AND CIVIC CLUBS. SO OKAY, SO WE HAVE. I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. IF YOU SEE I'M GOOD WITH
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IF YOU SEE STUFF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT JUST REALLY BOTHERS YOU THAT I DON'T I DON'T NEED THAT STUFF ANYWAY. THAT'S JUST KIND OF LISTED IN THAT. OKAY. I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT. YEAH.TAKE THEM, TAKE THEM OUT I DON'T, SO LET ME UNDERSTAND THIS. I'M GOING TO TRY TO HELP YOU OUT HERE. SO YOUR MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE WITH ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE OF THE STAFF REPORT EXCLUDING CIVIC CLUBS, CIVIC CLUBS AND CIVIC CLUBS ON OUR PAPER. BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT KIND OF CLUB ON YOURS. SOCIAL. SOCIAL CLUB. YES. SO YOU DON'T WANT ANY CARD PLAYING OR ANYTHING. NO, NO. ALL RIGHT. CIVIC AND SOCIAL CLUBS. BUT IF IT'S OUT THEN YOU CAN'T DO IT.
SO THIS IS ONLY WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN. SO IF YOU DON'T PUT IT IN. SOCIAL CLUBS IS NOT INCLUDED RIGHT NOW. SO BY APPROVING THIS CIVIC CLUB, CIVIC CLUB, WE CAN'T TURN A SOCIAL CLUB INTO A CIVIC CLUB. SO THAT'S YOUR THAT'S YOUR MOTION? YES. NOW DOES THAT HAVE A SECOND, MADAM? SECOND. I'LL SECOND. YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. TAKE A VOTE. MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE IN THE AMENDMENT, WITH A EXCLUSION OF THE CIVIC CLUB.
SECOND AND APPROVED. LET'S LET'S DO A ROLL CALL FOR THIS JUST SO THAT WE'VE GOT A RECORD VOTE, BECAUSE IT CAN AFFECT WHAT GOES ON AT THE COUNCIL. OKAY. ROLL CALL. STEPHANIE. CHAMPAGNE.
YOLANDA. COLUMBUS. ERICA. BROWNING. D BAILEY NGUYEN. NOT APPROVED. BRENDA O'BRIEN. NOT APPROVED. OKAY. THANK YOU. PASSES 3 TO 2. PASSES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL.
[7. Discuss the Comprehensive Plan Update.]
MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS TO DISCUSS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, WHICH IS FACILITATOR. YES. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY BEEN WORKING WITH THE MRB GROUP TO ASSIST THE CITY IN UPDATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A PUT TOGETHER A STEERING COMMITTEE TO HELP WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE NEW OF THE NEW PLAN. WE ARE AT A POINT IN THE PROCESS WHERE WE ARE SOLICITING THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT. THERE IS A COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER AND AS WELL AS A PROJECT WEBSITE. AFTER THIS MEETING, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THE LINK TO THE PROJECT WEBSITE AND SHARE WITH YOU WHERE YOU CAN TAKE THE COMMUNITY SURVEY. IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE ALREADY. AND ALSO, WE HAVE HAD ONE COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE WE HAVE ASKED THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT ON CHANGES WHERE THEY'D LIKE TO SEE STRENGTH, WEAKNESSES, ETC.THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND ALL OF THAT WILL BE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC HERE IN THE COMING WEEKS. WE EXPECT THE SURVEY TO BE WRAPPED UP IN THE COMING WEEKS, BUT BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF RESPONSES, WE MAY EXTEND THE SURVEY DEADLINE THAT'S YET TO BE DETERMINED. BUT AS PART OF THIS, WE ARE ALSO OFFERING THOSE THAT THAT TAKE THE SURVEY AND OPPORTUNITY TO BE ENTERED INTO A RAFFLE. WE WILL BE GIVING OFF RAFFLING OFF A SERIES OF GIFT CARDS TO LOCAL DUNCANVILLE ESTABLISHMENTS AS PART OF PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS, SO MORE INFORMATION TO COME.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE? JUST TELL ME AGAIN WHEN THIS.
ASSESSMENT IS GOING TO BE COMPLETED. WE ARE HOPING THAT BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE WILL HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADOPTED, BUT BEFORE ITS ITS ADOPTION AND IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS, YOU WILL HAVE THE MRB GROUP HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE TO THE COMMISSION ABOUT SOME OF THE FINDINGS, SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, SOME OF THE AREAS OF IMPLEMENTATION, ETC. AGAIN, ALL BEFORE THE FORMAL PRESENTATION AND LAST
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PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL. AND WHEN YOU SAY END OF THE YEAR, YOU MEAN TOMORROW. OH GOOD POINT, GOOD POINT. NO. BEFORE THE END OF CALENDAR YEAR 2025. RIGHT NOW, THE TARGET IN THE PROJECT TIMELINE IS JULY. BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE SOME MINOR SETBACKS AT THE LATEST, IT WOULD BE APPROVED DECEMBER OF 2025, BUT THE GOAL IS TO HAVE IT IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL. JULY 2025. GOOD QUESTION. I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT. ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? SEE, I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY GET, SAY, A DRAFTED COPY OF WHAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT? YES. AS PART OF THE PROJECT WEBSITE, ALL DOCUMENTS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC TO VIEW. AND AFTER THIS MEETING, IF NOT SOMETIME TOMORROW, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THE LINK TO THE PROJECT WEBSITE, WHERE YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT AND SEE ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED THUS FAR AND PRESENTED, AND DISCUSS WITH THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS THE STEERING COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY MORE QUESTIONS?[8. Discuss meeting frequency.]
COMMISSIONERS HEARING. ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. YES, PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS TO DISCUSS THE MEETING FREQUENCY. I BELIEVE THE PROPOSAL IS FOR TWO A MONTH. YES. THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU. THERE'S STILL MORE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND MORE RESEARCH. BUT WE HAVE RECENTLY RECEIVED A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS, EITHER FOR SUPS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS, PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS, REPLAT APPLICATIONS. AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COMMISSION ONLY MEETS ONCE A MONTH. AND IN ORDER TO KEEP UP WITH THESE APPLICATIONS AND PROCESS THEM IN A TIMELY MANNER, WE FIND THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO GO TO TWO MEETINGS A MONTH. AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED IF WE MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION WHEN THOSE MEETINGS WOULD TAKE PLACE. BUT GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED AND AGAIN, TO KEEP THESE MOVING FORWARD, IT'S JUST NOT CONDUCIVE TO HAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONTINUE TO MEET ONCE A MONTH.WHEN WERE THESE RECEIVED? I'M SORRY, HOW RECENTLY WERE THESE LARGE, THIS LARGE NUMBER RECEIVED? THESE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING THEM OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW MONTHS, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO KEEP THEM MOVING FORWARD. BUT WE HAVE ONE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION THAT WE RECEIVED. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE APPLICATION THIS EVENING WITH THE PLANNED AMENDMENTS. THERE'S A COUPLE OF REPLAT APPLICATIONS THAT MISS ROMERO'S PROCESSING. SO ALL IN ALL, IF I HAD TO SAY WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING THE WE'VE RECEIVED THESE APPLICATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 90 DAYS, AND WE'RE JUST LOOKING FORWARD AND SAYING, OKAY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THESE? WE'RE NOT AT A POINT THAT WE'RE READY TO DISCUSS THEM PUBLICLY, REPRESENT THEM BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE STAFF COMMENTS. BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT HERE SOON THEY WILL BE READY FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION. AND WE'RE JUST LIKE I SAID, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FORWARD ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE MANAGING THESE ONCE WE'RE IN A POSITION TO BRING THEM FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY. QUESTION. IF A IF IT IS APPROVED THAT WE MEET TWICE A MONTH AND THE NUMBER OF APPLICATION DECREASES AGAIN, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING TO DECREASE IT TO ONCE A MONTH. NO. AND IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE IT SET ON THE CALENDAR FOR TWICE A MONTH, AND IF THERE'S NO NEED FOR THE COMMISSION TO MEET EITHER IN THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH OR THE SECOND MEETING OF THE MONTH, THAT MEETING IS CANCELED AND WE JUST SEND OUT CANCELLATION NOTICE AND POST THE CANCELLATION NOTICE ON ON OUR WEBSITE AND A PLACE OF WHERE THE MEETING IS TRADITIONALLY HELD. THAT'S BEEN MY PAST EXPERIENCE WITH IN PAST DEALINGS WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. BUT AT LEAST YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE TWO SET DAYS, TWO OPPORTUNITIES PER MONTH TO CONDUCT A ZONING BUSINESS, ZONING MATTERS, COMMISSIONERS, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NOPE. SEEING OR HEARING? NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. I THOUGHT THERE WAS AN ITEM TO ADJOURN, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT ON. YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT'S ON YOUR AGENDA, YOU CANNOT DO ANYTHING LEGALLY THAT'S NOT ON YOUR AGENDA. SO IN EFFECT, YOUR MEETING IS OVER. IT'S IMPLIED. YES. SO I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GIVE AN OPINION ABOUT TWICE A MONTH OR ARE WE JUST HEARING YOU OUT? YEAH. AT THIS POINT WE'RE JUST SHARING THIS INFORMATION BASED ON WHAT? WHAT WE KNOW OF WHAT WE'RE REVIEWING AND PROCESSING. WE AT THIS POINT DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING FORWARD, BUT WE JUST
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IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT WHEN THEY COME FORWARD, THEY WILL BE COMING FOR, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT AT A TIME. AND SO WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PLAN ACCORDINGLY, SPREAD THEM OUT AND DO THE NECESSARY RESEARCH THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO RESEARCH IS IF WE PROCEED FORWARD WITH MEETING TWICE A MONTH, THAT THERE IS NO ROOM CONFLICT, THAT IF WE DECIDE TO SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, MEET ON THE SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH, THAT THIS, THAT THIS ROOM IS AVAILABLE OF FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND, THE SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH. AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO CONFLICTS WITH RECORDING THE MEETING. SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE ALL DETAILS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH, THAT WE WILL DO SOME FURTHER RESEARCH AND THEN REPORT BACK ON OUR FINDINGS, AND THEN THEN GET MORE INPUT. WILL YOU BE RECORDING HOW DO YOU SAY RECRUITING OTHER APPLICANTS AS FAR AS IF SOMEBODY IS JUST NOT ABLE TO DO IN ORDER TO HAVE A QUORUM, TO HAVE BACK UP FOR AVAILABILITY? ALTERNATES LIKE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL RESEARCH IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS COMMISSION, THIS BOARD HAS BEEN PRETTY GOOD ABOUT MEETING. WE HAVE NOT HAD QUORUM ISSUES, BUT IF NECESSARY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YES, WE WILL ALSO LOOK INTO. THANK YOU. SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WILL EVENTUALLY VOTE ON OR THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT, YES, WILL BE BROUGHT FOR FORMAL DISCUSSION. THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN, SOME OF OUR CONCERNS. AGAIN, WANT TO BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY. WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE. AND IF WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE AN APPLICANT THAT MISSED THE DEADLINE BY A DAY OR TWO, YOU KNOW, DO WE TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, WAIT NEXT MONTH, WAIT 30 DAYS FOR AN OUTCOME, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE WHEN THEY HAVE MONEY AT STAKE AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO INVEST A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF, OF DOLLARS IN THE COMMUNITY. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING THINGS ALONG, THAT WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE, BEING AS FRIENDLY AS WE CAN. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR COMMISSIONS TO MEET TWICE A MONTH. SO THIS IS THIS IS NEW. IT'S A BIT DIFFERENT TO ME. BUT I SAID IT'S VERY COMMON TO HAVE A ZONING COMMISSION AT LEAST HAVE TWO MEETINGS SCHEDULED ON THE CALENDAR. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS NOTHING TO MEET ABOUT, MEANING NO BUSINESS TO DISCUSS ON EITHER THE FIRST OR THE SECOND MEETING ON THE CALENDAR, A CANCELLATION NOTICE WILL BE SENT, AS OPPOSED TO BEING IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ONE ON THE CALENDAR. WE NEED TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AND MOVE THINGS ALONG. IT'S BEST, IN MY OPINION, TO HAVE IT ON THE CALENDARS. IF YOU NEED IT, YOU NEED IT. IF YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T. BUT YOU'RE NOT CAUGHT IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE CALLING FOR SPECIAL MEETINGS. THAT'S ALL. I'M HEARING. NO MORE QUESTIONS. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.ALL IN FAVOR? I, I ANY OPPOSED? MEETING IS ADJOURNED. AT. I HAVE 819.
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