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[1. Roll Call.]

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DO THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE. PRESENT. PRESENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A QUORUM. AT THIS

[2. Appointment of Chair and Vice Chair.]

MOMENT, I WOULD ASK THAT THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS APPOINT A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR. WE'LL START OFF WITH THE CHAIR AND I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF A CHAIR. I MOTIO. GO AHEAD. I MOTION THAT LAWRENCE SMITH BE CHAIR. I SECOND.

SECOND. SECOND. THAT MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THIS EVENING, I'M LOOKING FOR AN APPOINTMENT OF A VICE CHAIR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION, PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR TO NOMINATE ROBERT STRINGER. PLEASE. LOOKING FOR A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

MOTION CARRIES. WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT. AT THIS POINT, AT THIS POINT IN THE MEETING, I WILL HAND THE MEETING OVER TO CHAIR SMITH TO GUIDE US ALONG WITH TODAY'S ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I ALSO WANT TO APOLOGIZE. THE SAME APOLOGY FOR THE DELAY.

AND SINCE THIS WILL BE MY FIRST TIME AS THE CHAIR, Y'ALL WILL HAVE TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF PATIENCE ON THAT. AS WELL. I BELIEVE WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE'LL RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS OR WERE THERE ANY COMMUNICATIONS SENT VIA EMAIL OR ANY, OR WAS THERE ANY EMAIL COMMUNICATION THAT WAS SENT IN? NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. NO. IF THERE IS NONE, THEN WE AT THIS POINT WILL RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT ARE FROM ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT ITEMS THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA AT THIS TIME? HEARING

[4. Approve the meeting minutes for the regular meeting on April 25, 2024. ]

NONE, I THINK WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE WILL. I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FOR THE MEETING ON THE REGULAR MEETING ON APRIL 25TH, 2024. DO THOSE NEED TO BE READ PUBLICLY? THEY DO NOT. JUST LOOKING FOR A FIRST AND THEN SECOND. AND THEN I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO MAKE THE MOTION. YEP. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO UNREADINESS, THE MOTION WILL

[5. ZBA-09: Variance requests to reduce the minimum lot width and minimum lot area on Cambridge Estates Sec 2 Rev Rep, Blk B, LT 10, more commonly known as 10 Fairway Drive, City of Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]

CARRY. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ZBA DASH ZERO NINE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO ZBA OH NINE IS THE VARIANCE REQUEST TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH AND MINIMUM LOT AREA ON CAMBRIDGE ESTATE SECTION TWO. OKAY. SECTION TWO. THAT'S THE TEN FAIRWAY DRIVE. CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. AND. HEARING THAT, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THIS POINT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO THIS VARIANCE FOR OR AGAINST? ACTUALLY, AT THIS MOMENT, I'D LIKE TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE CASE AND WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED. AND THEN WE CAN WE CAN ASK THE PETITIONER TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE THAT I MAY LEFT OUT, IF THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S FINE WITH ME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

SO THIS EVENING WE HAVE VARIATION TWO VARIATION REQUESTS FOR TEN FAIRWAY DRIVE. ONE IS A REDUCTION OF THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH REQUIREMENT. AND THE OTHER IS A VARIANCE FOR THE MINIMUM LOT AREA REQUIREMENTS. AS YOU WILL SEE ON THE SCREEN, WE HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT ZONING DESIGNATION. IT'S 13,000FT■!S AS THE LOT AREA AND A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 90 90FT. WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS A IS A SITE PLAN OF THE LOTS, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE ON ON THE PROPERTY.

THIS IS A PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY HOME. AND AS YOU WILL SEE HERE INDICATED IN THE ORANGE, THIS IS

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THE PROPOSED LOT AREA FOR THIS LOT. AND ALSO CIRCLED IS THE LOT WIDTH. THIS IS THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA IS THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 20 MAILINGS THAT WERE SENT OUT AND WE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE IN FAVOR OF THE REQUESTED RELIEF. AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS YOUR AUTHORITY TO APPROVE SAID SAID VARIATION REQUEST AND THE CONDITIONS FOR GRANTING A VARIATION. AT THIS POINT, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE TWO VARIATION REQUEST.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE REGARDING THIS MATTER. AT THIS POINT, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WOULD THE PETITIONER LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT AT THIS TIME? IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT THE MATTER FOR, FOR OR FOR OR AGAINST? YEP.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH, BUT BEFORE YOU. BEFORE YOU SPEAK, OR ARE YOU ARE YOU SPEAKING FOR OR AGAINST THE ORDINANCE OR AGAINST THE APPROVAL RIGHT NOW? I'M FOR THE FIRST TIME. IT'S MY FIRST TIME I'VE EVER EVEN ATTENDED ONE OF THESE. I'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE OF MAIL OUTS AS YOU ALL MENTIONED. AND SO I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS AGAIN, BECAUSE HOLD ON A SECOND. DOES SHE NEED TO BE SWORN IN BEFORE SHE TALK? OKAY. SO HER IDENTIFY HERSELF. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

CAN CAN YOU. YEAH. YOU'RE TOTALLY FINE. CAN YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF, INCLUDING YOUR ADDRESS AS WELL? YES, SIR. MY NAME IS MARSHA HOFFMAN. ALL RIGHT. AS THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE A ZERO FOR YOU. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. SO MY FIRST QUESTION WAS, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I.

COME.

TO THIS QUESTION SHOULD COME TO US AND NOT IF WE WERE JUST. I WAS ASKING FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THE BOARD. SHOULD THE QUESTIONS BE COMING TO US. AND THEN WE CAN THEN SPEAK TO IT FROM THERE. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. SO NO. AND WE'RE ALL DOING THIS TOGETHER, SO YOU'RE TOTALLY FINE. BUT NO, THANK THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE TO KEEP GOING.

OKAY. MY OTHER QUESTIONS ARE JUST REALLY ABOUT NUMBERS AND WHAT'S ON THE PAPERWORK. I'M SORRY. EXCUSE ME. DO YOU MIND SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE? AND THEN ALSO, YOU CAN ASK YOUR QUESTIONS TOWARDS THE BOARD. AND THEN WHAT CAN HAPPEN IS THE APPLICANT CAN COME IN AFTERWARDS AND ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED THEM. OKAY. SO YOU HAD THE TWO QUESTIONS UP A MINUTE AGO, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. OH THERE THEY ARE RIGHT THERE. VARIANCE WAS ONE WAS FOR THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH AND THE OTHER WAS FOR THE LOT AREA. CORRECT. SO IT'S JUST

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BASICALLY BASICALLY A SIZING ISSUE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE REASON THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO ASK FOR THE VARIANCE. OTHERWISE THEY COULD BUILD. ALL RIGHT. HAS ANYONE ELSE BASICALLY WOULD COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND WITH LOOKING AT THIS, AM I SUPPOSED TO BE ASKING Y'ALL I'M SO SORRY. YOU'RE TOTALLY FINE. JUST JUST POINT OVER THERE AND SAY, BECAUSE IN MY EYES, OVER HERE, WE'RE ALL TOGETHER. OKAY, SO THEN IT SAYS 13,000FT■!S. WHT IS BASICALLY THE MINIMUM FOR OUR COMMUNITY? YES, YES. AND AT THIS PARTICULAR, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THE BUILDING WILL BE 10,922 LOT THE. YEAH THE LOT SIZES FOR SOME REASON DOWN TO 10,920 AS OPPOSED TO THE 13,000.

AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE I GUESS THIS IS THE WIDTH OF THE HOUSE INSTEAD OF THE LOT.

AGAIN, INSTEAD OF 90FT, 90FT, IT'S 84. SO NONE OF THIS, THESE NUMBERS THAT THE VARIANCE IS BEING REQUESTED FOR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL HOUSE BUILDING, WHETHER IT'S JUST ALL ABOUT THE LOT SIZE, THE LOT SIZE, THAT LOT IS ALREADY LAID OUT LIKE THAT. YEAH, I'M VERY FAMILIAR. YEAH. AND SO. THERE WE GO. YEAH. THAT LOT IS ALREADY LAID OUT LIKE THAT AND EXISTS LIKE YOU LIVE THERE. SO YOU KNOW. YES. AND THIS JUST RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING ON IT BECAUSE IT IS TOO SMALL FOR THAT ZONING. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE VARIANCE IS REQUESTING TO ALLOW THEM TO BUILD A HOME ON IT. OKAY. AND THEN OTHER. WELL YEAH. THAT KIND OF ANSWERS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. OTHER OPTIONS WOULD BE TO STILL BE WITH THAT VARIANCE REQUEST.

OKAY. THOSE WERE MY ONLY QUESTIONS. LIKE I SAID, I LIVE ALMOST RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THERE AND IT WAS JUST CONCERNING TO ME AS TO WHY THIS PROCESS WAS GOING ON. I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE VARIANCE, LENGTH AND ALL THAT WAS, WHETHER IT WAS THE HOUSE THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED TO BE BUILT THERE, OR THE ACTUAL LAND PIECE ITSELF, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET SOME OF THESE NICE IMAGES. I'M GLAD YOU'RE PARTICIPATING, I AM TOO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I WOULD ADD, I WOULD ADD, FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH, THAT THERE ARE OTHER OTHER LOTS IN THE VICINITY THAT DO THAT CURRENTLY DO NOT MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARDS. SO THIS IS NOT UNIQUE IF YOU WILL, TO THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WHAT IN THE HOW IN THE HOUSES THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT IN THE VICINITY. JUST AS A POINT OF CONTEXT. BUT AGAIN, TO THE PETITIONER, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD IN REGARDS THAT YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER BEFORE WE DO ANY DELIBERATION? NO, THERE ARE NONE BY THE BY THE APPLICANT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM HERE I SEE YOUR YOUR BUILD PLAN AND EVERYTHING IS WITHIN THE BUILD LINES. SO BASICALLY YOU'RE JUST PUSHING THE HOUSE, THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, A LITTLE FURTHER. IT'S O. THAT'S OKAY. SO AM I CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO THE BACKYARD IS JUST GOING TO BE A LITTLE SMALLER BECAUSE YOU'RE CONDENSING CONDENSING. SO THE CONSTRUCTION HAS TO GO BACK TO STAY WITHIN THE BUILD LINES. CORRECT. YEAH.

SO THE FRONT EASEMENT. THAT'S GOOD. AND JUST SO WE'RE ON THE WE'RE STAYING WITHIN THE GUIDELINES I BELIEVE THE PETITIONERS NEED TO BE SWORN IN BEFORE THEY MAKE COMMENTS. IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT IS ACCURATE I APOLOGIZE. SO WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE SAME MOTION. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. SWEAR YOU IN. NAME NAME AND ADDRESS. FOR THE RECORD. AND THEN YOU PROVIDE THE TESTIMONY. YOUR ADDRESS. YOU'RE THE ARE YOU THE YOU'RE THE APPLICANT. HE'S THE APPLICANT.

OKAY. SO YOU SHOW UP WITH HIM AND PROVIDE HIS NAME AND ADDRESS AND HELP HIM TRANSLATE. YEAH, I, I THINK THAT ARE YOU DOING ARE YOU TRANSLATING? IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT OR SO BOTH OF THEM STILL NEED TO BE SWORN IN. IS THAT CORRECT? HE'S TRANSLATING FOR HIM. SO WE'LL WE'LL DO BOTH.

YEP. JUST TO ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION. ALL RIGHT. CAN CAN BOTH THE PETITIONER AS WELL AS THE

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TRANSLATOR STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. SPANISH. OKAY. MARIO GOMEZ 421 NORRIS 18 GRAND PRIX. SEVEN 5050 TEXAS. CARLOS VELASQUEZ 1517 OSWALD GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS SEVEN FIVE, 052.

ALL RIGHT. AND DO YOU BOTH SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH? DO YOU CAN YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU BOTH SWEAR, SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUT? YES. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO. CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MAKE A MOTION? I SECOND THE MOTION TO APPROVE ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION HAS BEEN. IT'S BEEN MOTIONED AND APPROVED. I MEAN, MOTION AND SECONDED. DO IS THERE ANY OTHER EITHER OTHER READINESS. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE, AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

THIS MATTER HAS BEEN APPROVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES. GOOD NIGHT GUYS. ALL RIGHT. SO.

[6. ZBA-11: Variance to permit an existing patio cover and concrete slab to encroach into the build to line on Fairmeadows 4, Blk M, Lot 35, more commonly known as 1427 Oriole Boulevard, City of Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]

MOVING RIGHT ALONG. SO WE'RE NOW GOING TO MOVE TO ZBA DASH 11. IT'S A VARIANCE TO PERMIT AN EXISTING PATIO COVER AND CONCRETE SLAB TO ENCROACH INTO THE BUILD TO LINE ON FAIR MEADOWS, FOUR BLOCK M LOT 35, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1427 ORIOLE BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. DALLAS, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. AND WE WILL HEAR FROM THE STAFF ON THIS MATTER.

YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA HERE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ACTUALLY OPENED A PUBLIC THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS EVENING. OH, THE GREATNESS OF THE FIRST MEETING. SO ALL RIGHT, THE OPENING OF THE MEETING IS FORMALLY OPENED UP. THE MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THESE FOR THIS EVENING, AT THE CONCLUSION OF ALL OF THE HEARINGS, WE WILL ASK FOR A CLOSE. CLOSE. OKAY, COOL, COOL, COOL. SO I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO FORMALLY OPEN THE MEETING. I SECOND, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE MOTION? NO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. WE OPEN IT AT SEVEN 4740. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR. AYE, AYE. MOTION CARRIES. SO WE MOVE ON WITH THE NEXT, NEXT ITEM. ALL RIGHT. DO I NEED TO STATE IT AGAIN FOR THE RECORD? SURE. OKAY. ZBA DASH 11 VARIANCE TO PERMIT AN EXISTING PATIO COVER AND CONCRETE SLAB TO ENCROACH INTO THE TO THE BUILD TO LINE ON FAIR MEADOWS, FOUR BLOCK M LOT 35, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1427 ORIOLE BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. AND WE'LL NOW GET A PRESENTATION FROM THE STAFF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND GOOD EVENING. SO WHAT WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS A VARIATION REQUEST. THIS IS A SETBACK REQUEST BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ENCROACHMENT IN THE FRONT YARD. THE ENCROACHMENT IS 2.8FT IN THE REQUIRED 25 FOOT SETBACK. AS YOU WILL SEE IN THE CHART ON YOUR MONITOR AND ON ON DISPLAY HERE, THAT THE MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK FOR THIS AREA IS 25FT. HERE YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THE CONSTRUCTED STRUCTURE. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE WHERE THE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT WITHOUT A PERMITS. WE'VE BROUGHT IT TO THE APPLICANT'S ATTENTION AND HOW THAT'S HOW WE HAVE THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU. AND THE VARIANCE REQUEST. WHAT YOU HAVE ALSO IS A COPY OF THE PLAT OF SURVEY. THE ITEM CIRCLED OR THE RED CIRCLE INDICATES THE LOCATION OF THE STRUCTURE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, YOU SEE THE ENCROACHMENT. AND AGAIN THE ENCROACHMENT IS 2.8FT. HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THERE WERE 19 MAILINGS THAT WERE SENT OUT.

THERE WERE TWO THAT REPLIED IN FAVOR. THEY WERE ZERO THAT WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY IN OPPOSITION OF THIS VARIANCE REQUEST. HERE YOU HAVE YOUR AUTHORITY TO APPROVE OR DENY SUCH A VARIANCE. AGAIN, THE CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF A VARIANCE. IN THIS

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INSTANCE, WE BELIEVE THAT STAFF'S POSITION ON THE MATTER IS RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. BUT YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE THIS EVENING THAT WILL PROVIDE MORE CONTEXT ON THE VARIANCE REQUEST. SO I WOULD ASK THAT THE OWNER STEP UP TO THE PODIUM AND WE GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF SWEARING IN NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE OBTAINING TESTIMONY. IF THAT'S OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. YES. WHAT IS THE REASON FOR YOUR RECOMMENDING DENIAL? SO THE RECOMMENDING OF THE DENIAL IS THAT IT'S ONE IT'S AN ENCROACHMENT AND TWO, IT'S NOT IN CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBOR, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU HAVE SEVERAL HOMES WITHIN THE VICINITY THAT MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. AND SO THIS THIS IS AN ENCROACHMENT. THAT IS STAFF'S POSITION ON THE DENIAL. BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU PRESENTING THIS, THIS MATTER, I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF TO IS IT THE PHYSICAL STRUCTURE, THE ROOF AND THE POST THAT ENCROACH, OR DOES THE SLAB ENCROACH? IT'S IF THE SLAB, IF IT WERE ONLY THE SLAB, WOULD THAT ENCROACH? WELL, WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE WHERE THE STRUCTURE IS, IS TIED TO THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE AND THAT FALLS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE SETBACK AND HENCE WHY WE HAVE THE ENCROACHMENT. WE HAVE DISCUSSED OTHER OPTIONS WITH THE APPLICANT TO NOT HAVE THIS ENCROACHMENT THAT WOULD INVOLVE THE REMOVAL OF THE POST AND ATTACHING. LET ME JUST SHOW YOU THAT PICTURE. EXCUSE ME. SO IN ORDER TO AVOID THE ENCROACHMENT, IT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED THE REMOVAL OF THE POST AND HAVE THE SUPPORTS PROVIDED TO THE STRUCTURE ON AN ANGULAR BASIS, AND THAT WOULD NOT ENCROACH, THEN? YES, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULDN'T EVEN REQUIRE A VARIANCE THEN. YES. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S BASICALLY THE QUESTION THAT I WAS ASKING. YES. SO THERE IS THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE. BUT UNFORTUNATELY TO, TO WORK THROUGH THAT ALTERNATIVE, IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK. AND THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE STRUCTURE AS IS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A QUITE A BIT OF TIME AND AMOUNT OF MONEY INVESTED INTO IT. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE PETITION THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THIS REQUEST. ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE STAFF. YES, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT TYPICALLY A THE RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE FOR DENIAL WHEN THE HARDSHIP INVOLVED IS SEEN AS SELF-IMPOSED. IS THAT ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THERE WAS A DENIAL THAT WAS BEING RECOMMENDED HERE? YES. IN THIS INSTANCE, BECAUSE THERE ARE OPTIONS IN ORDER TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE AND THE STRUCTURE DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THAT LARGE OR ENCROACH INTO THE SETBACK. SO THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A SITUATION WHERE THE ORDINANCE CREATED THE HARDSHIP. IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE UNFORTUNATELY THE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT WITHOUT A PERMIT. IF IT HAD BEEN A SITUATION WHERE A PERMIT HAD BEEN APPLIED FOR, WE WOULD HAVE CAUGHT IT AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE UNFORTUNATELY, THE DILEMMA THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. ANOTHER QUESTION. YES. DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG THIS STRUCTURE HAS BEEN IN PLACE PRIOR TO YOU? YOU KNOW, I'M SO SORRY THIS THIS STRUCTURE WAS RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED. IT'S BEEN UP FOR JUST A FEW MONTHS, I SEE, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

BEFORE WE PROCEED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME SITUATION AS THE LAST PETITION. WE HAVE INTERPRETER HERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO SQUARE BOTH AND JUST WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. CAN BOTH THE PRESENTER AS WELL AS THE TRANSLATOR THAT PERSON DOING THE TRANSLATION STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL AS YOUR ADDRESS. GONZALEZ 2029 NORMAN WAY, CARROLLTON, TEXAS. ALL RIGHT. OMAR PEREZ NEGRON, 2931 APPALOOSA DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75 237. AWESOME AND DO YOU DO BOTH OF YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH? THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE OR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. I'M SORRY ABOUT THA. TO BOTH OF YOU, SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUT. ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. SO LO HICE ESE POR PARA UN POCO MEJOR LA CASA PORQUE ESTABA MUY PLANA Y QUERRIA UN POQUITO DIFERENTE. NO SABIA SACAR EXACTAMENTE PERMISO. ME VA A HACER EXACTAMENTE A ESTO

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Y COMO LOS DEMAS. CASAS TIENEN ESE TIPO DE PORCHES PRO SE ME HIZO FACIL BASICALLY WAS TRYING TO HE WANTED TO HAVE THE PROPERTY THERE BILL AND HE DROVE THE AREA AND NOTICED THAT THERE WERE OTHER PROPERTIES WITH THE SAME FRONT PORCH. SO HE JUST WENT BASED ON THE LITTLE SIDEWALK THAT IT'S IN BETWEEN, LIKE THE PORCH AND THE DRIVEWAY. AND THAT'S THE MEASUREMENTS THAT HE DID BECAUSE HE DIDN'T ALSO HAVE THE SURVEY BACK THEN. SO HE GOT THE SURVEY RIGHT AFTER THE CITY STOPPED AT THE PROPERTY. AND WE ALSO HAVE EXAMPLES. IN FACT, IF I MAY. SO TWO OF THE BEST. ONE OF THEM IS ON THE SAME STREET. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU.

YEAH. SO HE TOOK A LOOK AT THOSE TWO OTHER PROPERTIES. 1123 ORIOLE BOULEVARD AND 522 TRAIL RIDGE. THOSE WERE ALSO REMODELED IN BETWEEN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THESE HOMES THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TO US HAVE HAD SIMILAR ARCHITECTURAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS? CORRECT. SO YOU'RE SAYING THESE THESE ENCROACH THE BUILD LINE AS WELL? WE'RE NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. SO HE NOTICED THAT THOSE PORCHES MATCHED THE SAME MEASUREMENTS OF THE SIDEWALKS THAT THEY HAVE AS WELL. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S IT. THAT'S THAT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY.

NO THAT'S NOT PROPIEDAD VOY A PONER LIVE THERE. YOU DON'T LIVE THERE. NO. IT'S A VACANT PROPERTY. BUT HE'S GOING TO SELL IT. OKAY. OR DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD. I COMUNITA FRENTE. SO BASICALLY HE JUST WANTED THE HOUSE TO HAVE A BETTER CURB APPEAL AND ALSO TO KIND OF IMPROVE THE AREA. SO THE WHOLE STREET WILL ANOTHER HOUSE ON THE SAME STREET WILL HAVE THE SAME CURB APPEAL AS THE OTHER TWO. YO ME VOY A HACER MUCHO.

ESTO. NO. YES I'LL GO. HE ACTUALLY WANTED HIS HOUSE TO LOOK JUST LIKE THE ONE ON TRAIL RIDGE DRIVE. SO HE TOOK THE SAME EXAMPLE AND KIND OF RECREATE IT ON HIS HOUSE. WERE YOU AWARE OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS BEFORE YOU BUILT THIS STRUCTURE? NO. NO. SABIAN, NO SACAR A PERMISO DE ALGO TAN SENCILLO LO VOY A HACER YA CUANDO ME DIJERON NECESITABA PERMISO VAN A HACER EL SURVEY. YA VIMOS ESTABA. NO, HE WASN'T AWARE OF THE PERMIT PROCESS, AND WHENEVER HE GOT THE SURVEY, THAT'S WHEN HE ACTUALLY NOTICED THAT IT WAS JUST A FEW FEET ENCROACHMENT. OKAY, SABIDO PERMISO PUES PRIMERO EL PERMISO EL SURVEY Y SE EVITADO TODO ESTO TAMBIÉN UN COMENTARIO PUES UNA DISCULPA POR POR HABERLO HECHO ASI. WELL HE'S SAYING THAT HE'S BASICALLY SORRY ABOUT THAT, THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE NEEDED TO PULL PERMITS FOR THE PORCH. BUT IF HE WOULD HAVE KNOWN HE WOULD HAVE JUST GOTTEN THE FIRST PULL PERMIT AND THEN DO THE, THE PORCH, THE PORCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I DON'T DO YOU. NO, NO. ALL RIGHT. SO I'D LIKE TO ARE YOU I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE I OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE? AMAZONAS CULPA PARA VER LO HECHO SIN SABERLO DEL PERMISO. SI UNA

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DISCULPA POR HABER LEGADO ESTA ESTE PUNTO. SI ME EXPLICO. SORRY FOR WHAT HE DID. OKAY. AT THIS STAGE I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ANYONE FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT HAS ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THIS OR FOR OR AGAINST? YES. AND PLEASE LET US KNOW WHEN YOU COME UP. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. MARCIA POTTS, 947 FAIRWAY, DUNCANVILLE, TEXAS 75137. ALL RIGHT. AND DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH I DO. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I WOULD BE FOR THEM GETTING AN APPROVAL TO LEAVE THE MODIFICATION AS IT IS PRESENTED. TIME, MONEY, ENERGY INVESTED AND A VERY PROFESSIONAL LOOKING FROM, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT A JOB DONE THAT I THINK IT WOULD ADD VALUE TO NOT JUST THAT HOUSE, BUT PRETTY MUCH ANY HOME. AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT'S IN ALIGNMENT WITH SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE IN THE AREA AS WELL. AND SO I WOULD I WOULD BE FOR IT. AND APPROVE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. STAFF? YES. BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT THE PETITIONER GAVE US IN TERMS OF SIMILAR MODIFICATIONS ON THE HOMES, HAVE STAFF HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECAUSE IN YOUR INITIAL STATEMENT, YOU SAID THAT THIS PARTICULAR MODIFICATION DID NOT GO WITH THE ESTHETICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YET THERE ARE 2 OR 3 HOUSES THAT HAVE SIMILAR. THAT THAT ARE SIMILAR CHARACTERISTICS, SIMILAR ATTRIBUTES AND SIMILAR DESIGN ELEMENTS. YES. UNFORTUNATELY WITH AND AGAIN WE WOULD HAVE CAUGHT IT HAD A PERMIT BEEN APPLIED FOR. BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S DEFINITELY AFTER AFTER THE FACT. NOW DO WE HAVE A STRUCTURE THAT'S COMPLIMENTING OF OTHER STRUCTURES IN THE VICINITY. YES. UNFORTUNATELY YOU KNOW EACH LOT IS DIFFERENT. EACH LOT IS UNIQUE. AND THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS SO WELL FROM THE STREET IT APPEARS TO BE IN UNIFORM OR HAVE SOME SIMILARITIES IN THIS INSTANCE.

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE HAVE THE ENCROACHMENT. SO OFTENTIMES YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO SEE WHAT THE SETBACKS ARE FROM, FROM THE STREET. AND YOU HAVE TO PULL ALL THE FILES FOR THEM TO SEE IF YOU HAVE IF YOU HAVE THAT REPLICATE. THANK YOU. OH YOU'RE WELCOME. AND JUST FOR TO VERIFY THE OTHER THE ONES THAT ARE PRESENTED HERE. 1123 522 TRAIL RIDGE. THESE PROPERTIES ARE THEY'RE THE IT'S NOT AN ENCROACHMENT THAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT SITUATION. IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS THAT BEEN VERIFIED? IS WHAT THE QUESTION IS? YEAH. TRUTH BE TOLD, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE THAT THAT HAS BEEN VERIFIED. I WOULD LOOK AT THE PLANNING TECH TECHNICIAN THAT DID THE RESEARCH REGARDING THIS MATTER. I DID DO THE RESEARCH. I LOOKED AT ALL THE SURROUNDING HOUSES. I ALSO LOOKED AT ALL THE ADDRESSES THAT MR. PEREZ SENT ME. THERE HAVE BEEN NO REMODEL PERMITS PULLED, SO THOSE HOUSES WERE BUILT AS IS. THERE IS ONE HOUSE THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THIS ONE THAT DID PULL A PERMIT. HOWEVER, WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY ONLY TOOK OFF THE WALLS. SO THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT DIDN'T CHANGE AT ALL. IT DIDN'T ENCROACH. THEY BASICALLY MADE A PORCH OUT OF THE FRONT PORTION OF THEIR HOME. SO THIS THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT DOES ENCROACH, YOU KNOW.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT. BUT I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT. BUT I YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN TO GET A PERMIT. DO YOU NOT BUY AND FLIP HOUSES? IS

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THIS YOUR FIRST HOUSE TO EVER BUY AND FLIP? YOU WOULD NOT KNOW TO GET A PERMIT. ESTA PRIMERA CASA? QUÉ LE HAGO UN POR SIEMPRE? CUANDO NO ES LA PRIMERA COMPRA Y HECHO FLIPS. PERO CUANDO HAGO SIEMPRE SACA LOS PERMISOS ES LA PARTE DE ADENTRO COMO PLUMERIA ELECTRICIDAD Y TODO ESO. PERO Y NUNCA PENSÉ PARA ESTO SE NECESITABA UN PERMISO. ESE MI ERROR DE QUÉ NUNCA PENSÉ QUÉ PARA ESTO. NECESITABA UN PERMISO PORQUE ERA ALGO COMO LO VE MUY SENCILLO.

OKAY SO THIS IS NOT HIS FIRST FLIP. THE PREVIOUS FLIP THAT HE HAS DONE. IT'S EVERYTHING INTERIOR. SO HE HAS PULLED PERMITS FOR THOSE FOR PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL THOSE MAIN THINGS.

BUT IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT HE ACTUALLY BUILDS A PORCH AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. SO HE HAS NEVER DONE THIS ON OTHER PROPERTIES ON NINGUN LADO, NUNCA MODIFICADO A LA ESTRUCTURA DE UNA PROPIEDAD. HASTA ESTA Y LO HICE PORQUE DESDE LA COMPRA ME LA VISUALIZAR CON ESE PORQUE.

OKAY, SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT HE CHANGES THE EXTERIOR STRUCTURE OF THE PROPERTY. THE ON ON THAT SAME LINE IF YOU DON'T MIND ME. JUST, JUST SO WE ALL GOT CLARITY ON THIS. YOU DO YOU HAVE BOUGHT AND SOLD MULTIPLE PROPERTIES BEFORE. IS THAT THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. OKA.

SO WILL WE HAVE HIM GET A PERMIT IF WE APPROVE THIS, WHAT WILL WE DO IN THAT CASE? YES. IF IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS TO APPROVE THE REQUESTED VARIANCE, THEN WE WOULD FINISH THE FINISH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND CONDUCT INSPECTIONS AND FINALIZE THE MATTER. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. SO THAT SO THAT WE COULD TABLE THE DECISION, WE WILL KNOW IF WE IF WE APPROVE IT, THEN THEY'LL HAVE HIM COMPLETE THE PERMITTING PROCESS. OKAY. CORRECT. YES. AT THIS POINT, THE ISSUANCE OF ANY PERMIT HAS BEEN DELAYED, SUBJECT TO THE OUTCOME OF THE OF THE HEARING. ALL RIGHT. I WILL TAKE A MOTION. OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THEN I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE. I SECOND THAT. THE MOTION HAS BEEN PROPERLY PROPERLY GIVEN AND SECONDED. DO YOU WANT TO DO THE EYES OR WHETHER IS THAT UNANIMOUS. ALL IN MOTION. ALL. EXCUSE ME. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, CHAIR. I'M DENYING I DIDN'T THINK IT NEEDS TO GO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO. DENIED. OKAY. I THINK YOU HAVE THE MAJORITY. THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD THAT A MAJORITY THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS. THEN IT RECOMMENDED IN FAVOR OF IT. WE HAVE ONE ONE OPPOSED, ONE OPPOSED. YEP. SO THERE WE GO. I NEED TO REPEAT THAT OUT LOUD OR NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH OKAY.

GOOD GOOD GOOD. NO. IT'S 3 TO 1 MAJORITY APPROVED. BUT A MAJORITY OF A QUORUM. IN THIS CASE THE MAJORITY. I THINK IT TAKES FOUR VOTES TO. YEAH. IN THIS IT'S A IT'S A BOARD OF SEVEN. IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT MISS ROMERO. BOARD OF FIVE WITH TWO ALTERNATES WITH TWO. WITH TWO ALTERNATES. CITY ATTORNEY TOLD ME NO, NO THAT'S FINE. YEA. I'LL. I'LL CHANGE MY VOTE. YEAH, I'LL CHANGE MY VOTE. OH, WAIT. YEAH. WE'LL WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL RIGHT. JUST BEAR WITH ME.

I'M JUST THINKING THIS THROUGH AND HOW WE DO HOW WE DO THE MOTIONS. SO IT'S A UNANIMOUS IT'S A YEAH IT'S UNANIMOUS WITH A QUORUM. SO. SO WE WOULD HAVE. AGAIN JUST BEAR WITH ME. I'M

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GOING TO I'M GOING THROUGH THIS IN MY HEAD. WE WOULD ASK FOR THE RECORD TO DO ANOTHER VOTE A FIRST AND A SECOND AND SEE IF WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS IN THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A FAILED MOTION IN THE FIRST, IN THE FIRST ATTEMPT. GOT IT. SO IF WE HAVE A CHANGE OF A POSITION ON THE MATTER, THEN WE WOULD ASK TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMEONE WOULD FIRST AND SECOND, A MOTION TO APPROVAL AND SEE IF THIS TIME AROUND WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS MOTION. AGAIN, MOTION TO APPROVE. I SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY. NOW ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. VARIANCE HAS BEEN APPROVED. ALL RIGHT. OKAY I THINK. OH. YOU. I THINK YOU. CAN WE GET AN INTERPRETATION OF WHAT JUST HAPPENED. SO THEY SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE. YES I WILL SPEAK TO THE PETITIONER. WE CAN GET STARTED ON THE NEXT ITEM WHILE YOU INTRODUCE THE NEXT ITEM. I WILL GIVE THEM A SUMMARY OF THE ACTION THAT JUST OCCURRE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ZBA DASH ONE

[7. ZBA-12: Variance requests to reduce the minimum lot widths on two separate lots, lots 18 and 21, on Camp Wisdom West, Blk B, Lots 18, 19, 20 and 21, more commonly known as 627 Michaels Drive, City of Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas]

TWO VARIANCE REQUEST TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTHS ON TWO SEPARATE LOTS, LOTS 18 AND 21 ON CAMP WISDOM WEST BLOCK B LOTS 18, 19, 20 AND 21 MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 627 MICHAEL'S DRIVE, CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. WE'LL HEAR FROM THE STAFF. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. THIS EVENING, WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE A VARIATION REQUEST FOR THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH IN THIS PARTICULAR ZONING DESIGNATION, THE LOT WIDTH IS 65FT. WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS A PROPOSED SITE PLAN. AND AS YOU WILL SEE, THE LOT WIDTH IS 64FT. SO YOU HAVE A RELIEF OF ONE FOOT. AND THIS WOULD BE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A HOME. HERE YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN.

HOME ELEVATIONS. AND THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 17 MAILINGS THAT WERE SENT OUT. WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO IN OPPOSITION.

AGAIN, WE HAVE YOUR AUTHORITY TO APPROVE OR DENY. DENY, REQUEST FOR VARIANCE RELIEF AND THE STANDARDS FOR APPROVAL AND OR DENIAL. AND IN THIS INSTANCE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED MINIMUM LOT WIDTH RELIEF. AND WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS RELIEF. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF BEFORE WE GO? ALL RIGHT. I DON'T EITHER. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THE PETITIONER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. AND BEFORE WE DO THE SIGNING, LET ME JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR US. FOR THE RECORD, BRETT MYERS, 616 SOUTH ROGERS, WAXAHACHIE, TEXAS, 75165. ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND FOR ME? ALL RIGHT. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH I DO. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD. SIMPLE. IT'S JUST IT'S ONE FOOT OFF EVERY LOT ON THAT WHOLE STREET IS 64. THERE'S 13 LOTS. THREE OF THEM ARE EMPTY LOTS. THE REST ARE HOUSES. AND EVERY THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT RUNS INTO THAT STREET, THERE'S 4 OR 5 STREETS, AND THAT STREET GOES, I MEAN, THERE'S PROBABLY LIKE 70 OR 80 DEEP. IT GOES, BUT EVERY ONE OF THOSE LOTS ARE ONLY 60 FOOT. AND THE WIDTH OF THOSE GOING BACK ARE A LOT SMALLER THAN OURS. SO OUR LOT IS YES, IT'S ONE FOOT OFF, BUT IT WAS THIS WAS ALL PLOTTED IN THE 1950S. IT'S REALLY THE OLDEST HOUSE IN DUNCANVILLE. MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER OWNED IT SINCE 1950. WE'RE NOW IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE SINCE SHE PASSED AWAY AT 102 IN 2002. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BUILD BUILD ON THE LOTS ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD TO SELL. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL RIGHT. WELL PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC FOR OR AGAINST. ALL RIGHT. WE. ANY DELIBERATION THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE HERE. ALL RIGHT. I'LL TAKE A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE. I SECOND MOTION HAS

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BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECOND. ANY UNREADINESS ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THE REQUEST HAS BEEN APPROVED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEFORE WE. I THINK THE ONLY THING LEFT.

LEFT IS THE CHANGING THE DATES. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT. THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. SIR, YOU HAVE A YES. THE QUESTION IS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA. IS THAT DONE DURING AN OPEN MEETING OR DO I NEED TO FORMALLY CLOSE FIRST? WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE SCHEDULED. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WE CAN DISCUSS JUST AN OPEN MEETING, BUT THERE ARE NO THERE ARE NO MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. OKAY. SO WE LOOK FOR A FIRST AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS MEETING SCHEDULE. MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SECONDED. ALL RIGHT. BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING. YES. THANK YOU ALL FOR PARTICIPATING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT I GOT THROUGH IT. DIDN'T BLOW THE BUILDING UP. IT SHOULD. THANK YOU, MISS POTTS.

YES YES YES YES, YES. IT'S UP TO THE PUBLIC. YEAH. IT'S JUST THE. IT'S JUST THAT THE FORMAL MEETING IS OVER. THE FORMAL MEETING IS OVER? YEAH. JUST WALK UP TO STAY. IT IS A IT IS A PUBLIC MEETING. YEAH, YEAH. BUT YES THAT'S FINE. ABSOLUTELY. YES. YES. YOU'RE GOOD GOOD GOOD

[8. Consider proposal of shifting the Zoning Board of Adjustment meetings from the current schedule of every second and fourth Thursdays of each month to every first and third Thursdays of each month and changing the meeting start time from 7:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.]

GOOD GOOD. YES. THANK YOU. OH LET ME DO THIS. SO THE NEXT ACTION ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CONSIDERING THE PROPOSAL OF SHIFTING THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETINGS FROM THE CURRENT SCHEDULE OF EVERY SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH TO EVERY FIRST AND THIRD THURSDAY OF EACH MONTH. AND CHANGING THE MEETING START TIME FROM 7 TO 6 P.M. AND I'LL TAKE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. I PERSONALLY HAVE NO OPINION ON THE SUBJECT WHATSOEVER. I'M GOOD WITH WHATEVER WORKS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, SO. SO I HAVE THAT LUXURY TYPICALLY. OBVIOUSL, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T MET SINCE APRIL. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE THERE'S BEEN BEEN A MEETING, BUT NOW THAT THESE ARE OUT OF THE WAY, WHAT IS TYPICALLY BEEN JUST FOR I KNOW THE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING EACH YEAR. SO IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. YEAH. GOOD QUESTION. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS DOES NOT MEET THAT OFTEN. ON AVERAGE, THEY MEET ABOUT FIVE TIMES FIVE TIMES A YEAR. YOU KNOW, WE JUST THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETS ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS. AND IF THERE IS NO APPLICATION FOR THERE IS NO MEETING. BUT HISTORICALLY THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS HAS JUST MET ON A SMALL NUMBER OF TIMES PER YEAR.

YEAH. WELL, FROM EARLIER DISCUSSIONS, I HEARD AN OBJECTION TO CHANGING IT TO 6 P.M. FROM SEVEN AND BUT EVERYBODY SEEMED FINE WITH SWITCHING IT TO THE FIRST AND THIRD THURSDAYS. SO SHALL WE SWITCH ITS FIRST AND THIRD THURSDAYS? BUT IT'S SEVEN.

QUICK, QUICK QUESTION JUST FOR JUST FOR MY, MY KNOWLEDGE BEFORE I, YOU KNOW, SAY YES ON THIS. I NOTICED BEFORE IT WAS SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAYS AND THEN THE REQUEST WAS FIRST, AND THIRD IS THE IDEA THAT IT NEEDS TO BE EVERY OTHER WEEK. FOR INSTANCE, IF IT WAS, IF IT WAS A SUGGESTION OF FIRST AND FOURTH, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A CONFLICT OR THERE CAN BE A CONFLICT ON SECOND THURSDAY, BUT WOULD IS THE FIRST AND FOURTH AN OPTION FOR US TO CONSIDER WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED FOR YOU THIS EVENING IS BASED OFF OF RESEARCH AND ENSURING THAT THERE IS NO CONFLICT WITH THE WITH THE RESERVATION OF THIS ROOM. SO WE WOULD IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S PROPOSED, WE WOULD THEN REQUEST FOR US TO GO BACK AND RE AND CONDUCT THAT RESEARCH TO SEE THAT THERE IS NO CONFLICT WITH OTHER BOARDS, OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT ARE USING THIS ROOM AT THAT. ON THOSE DAYS. YEAH, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, THE TIME IS AND THEN SCHEDULE IN ORDER TO DO THE PUBLIC NOTICES, IS THAT, YES, WE HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THE SCHEDULE. BUT REALLY THE MAIN THING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THE MEETING OF THIS BOARD DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER MEETING THAT'S BEING HELD IN THIS ROOM ON THAT DAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. IT WOULD ALSO BE VERY UNLIKELY THAT WE WOULD MEET ON THE FIRST AND THE THIRD MONDAY OF THE SAME MONTH. YEAH. AGAIN,

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THIS IS JUST BASED ON SOME AND JUST WE PUT IT OUT THERE JUST TO GET, JUST JUST TEST THE WATERS AND SEE THE BOARD'S THOUGHTS ON THE PROPOSED CHANGE. 1ST MAY GO AHEAD. NO I'M SORRY. YEAH. AND ONE MORE THING. AND OF COURSE A MOTION HASN'T BEEN MADE, BUT IF THIS PROPOSAL WAS AMENDED. SO IT'S ONLY CHANGING THE DATES BUT NOT THE TIME, DOES THAT HAVE TO ALSO GO BACK OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THAT WE COULD AMEND TONIGHT IF WE WANTED TO JUST TO UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN A SITUATION OR SCENARIO WHERE THE DATES ARE REMAIN THE SAME, BUT THE TIME IS CHANGED. NO. THE OPPOSITE, THE OPPOSITE. OKAY. THE YEAH, YOU COULD DO THAT TOO. ON THE AGENDA. IT SAYS TO CHANGE IT TO THE FIRST OR THIRD AT 6:00. YES. OPPOSED TO THE SEVEN. AND WE WERE SAYING CHANGE IT TO FIRST AND THIRD. BUT AT 7:00 THAT'S FINE. MAKE THAT A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CHANGE THE MEETINGS FROM THE FIRST, FROM THE SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAYS TO THE FIRST AND THIRD THURSDAYS AT 7 P.M. I SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AND I THINK WE'RE DONE. YEP. YES. IS IT A ADJOURNMENT THAT. YES YES, YES. AT THIS POINT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. IT IS APPROXIMATELY 8:30 P.M. MAKE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.