Oct 22, 2024 Arts Commission

[1. Call to Order]

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OKAY, WE'RE WE'RE ON AIR. WE'RE LIVE. IT'S 629. I'M CALLING THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARTS COMMISSION TO ORDER. IT'S OCTOBER 22ND. WE HAVE A BIG AGENDA AND SOME NEW FACES HERE TONIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET RIGHT INTO OUR AGENDA. NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA

[2. Receive public comments]

THERE WAS NO PAPERWORK AT ALL OFFERED FOR THE GROUPS ON OCTOBER 7TH. AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT? IT WAS AS IF THE SPECIAL SESSION COULD BE CALLED MONEY. ASKED FOR A FEW COMMENTS MADE BY COUNCIL AND THEN FUNDING GIVEN TO THE CONCERNED PARTIES. IS THAT HOW THIS HAS WORKED HERE IN THE PAST? I SUPPORT THE ARTS AND HOPE, THE ARTS GROUP CAN FLOURISH, WHILE BRINGING DIFFERENT ARTISTS AND DIFFERENT GROUPS TO THE CITY. AGAIN, I STRESS DIFFERENT TO DO THIS BEING TRANSPARENT AS I MUST. ACCOUNTABILITY HAS TO BE PART OF THIS EFFORT. THANK YOU. MARK GRAHAM. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LEFT AS FAR AS PUBLIC COMMENTS. THANK YOU. NUMBER THREE. SO I

[3. Commission Chair and Vice Chair discussion]

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WELL, I THINK YOU USED THE WRONG SENSE. I'M SENSELESS. MARIANNE. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT. IT'S A LITTLE PUN. SORRY. I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE, THOUGH, IS VISION. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE FOR ANOTHER YEAR. EXCELLENT. OKAY. WELL, I THOUGHT WE. SO IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, HOW DO WE TRANSITION IN 12 MONTHS TO THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE LEAVE FOR THEM? GOOD RECORDS ARE PART OF THAT. WE'VE SPENT THE FIRST TWO YEARS TRYING TO FIND OUR WAY, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS IS AND HOW TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND THE OFFICES OF THE CITY. AND I THINK WE'RE STARTING TO GET GLIMPSES AND GLEANINGS. ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE STARTED WE PUT IN MOTION SOME THINGS THAT WILL CARRY INTO THE FUTURE. LIKE THE CULTURAL DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE ABOUT CONTINUITY IN THE FUTURE WITH THIS COMMISSION.

SO IF THE POLICIES ARE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE RESPONSIBILITY IS FOR THE COMMISSION, I THINK THAT'S STRONG. THAT'LL BE IMPORTANT. THAT'S ALL I CAN THINK OF. THANKS, ANGELA. I THINK CONTINUITY. CONTINUITY IS IMPORTANT. I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB THUS FAR. EVERYTHING THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR KNOWS. OR WAS DOING, YOU'VE RELAYED THAT TO EVERYBODY. SO NONE OF US HAVE EVER BEEN IN THE DARK ABOUT ANYTHING. SO ANYBODY, ANY ONE OF US COULD STEP UP AND CONTINUE THAT. I THINK IT'S ONLY THREE, FOUR, FOUR PEOPLE WHO WILL CONTINUE DEFINITELY IN THE NEXT YEAR AFTER THE MAJORITY OF US COME OFF. AND IF WE GET SELECTED AGAIN, THEN THAT'S FINE. BUT IF WE DON'T, THAT'S FINE TOO. BUT I DO THINK FOR CONTINUITY, MAYBE ONE OF THOSE FOUR INDIVIDUALS SHOULD BE IN AT LEAST THE CO-CHAIR POSITION. IF NOT THE CHAIR POSITION, SO THAT THAT WOULD HELP THE NEXT GROUP COMING THROUGH SO THAT YOU KIND OF THAT WAS THE SUGGESTION. I WAS THINKING ABOUT. AND THIS WELL, SO HERE'S SO HERE'S THE THING AND, AND I HAVEN'T TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THIS. SO IT'S GOING TO SURPRISE HIM. I WONDER HOW YOU FEEL IF, IF I CARRY ON AS CHAIR. BUT WE USE ONE OF OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS AS VICE CHAIR. THAT VICE CHAIR CAN CAN GO TO THE MEETINGS, CAN DO EVERYTHING. WE'RE PREPARING THE VICE CHAIR. SO WHEN US OLD FOGIES FILTER OFF, THEN THERE'S GOING TO THAT CONTINUITY. SO ONE OF THE NEWER GROUPS IS GOING TO HAVE THEORETICALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO SLIP INTO THAT CHAIRMAN'S POSITION AND IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY READY TO GO. AND MORE THAN THAT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE CITIES AND PARTNERSHIPS. SO THAT VICE CHAIR, WHEREAS TIM AND I HAVEN'T DONE MUCH OF THIS. I THINK IT WILL BE IMPORTANT THAT THE VICE CHAIR GO TO THE MEETINGS. I GO TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT I TALK TO, HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH FUNDING ORGANIZATIONS, HAVE THE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS. SO IN THAT 12 MONTHS, IF CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T REAPPOINT ANYONE, IF WE DON'T, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMEONE READY TO GO INTO THE CHAIRMANSHIP WITH THOSE WITH THOSE PARTNERSHIPS IN PLACE.

THOUGHTS? I'M GOING TO LOOK AT YOU, TIM. FIRST. WELL, YOU'VE BEEN SUCH A GOOD CHAIRMAN AND YOU'VE BEEN TO ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MEETING EXCEPT ONE, I THINK, WHERE ACTUALLY I HAD TO

[00:10:09]

AND THIS IS BASED ON WE HAVE THREE REALLY GOOD. WE HAVE MAC. WE HAVE AMY. WE HAVE MARIANNE.

MARIANNE AND AMY HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED IN AS WELL. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DISAGREE WITH ME. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER AND WE COULD TALK ABOUT THIS. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER PERHAPS MAC AS A VICE CHAIR AND SO MUCH THAT HE GOES TO ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. HE READS THE BUDGET, HE READS THE POLICY. GENERALLY, I BEFORE I EVEN OPEN UP A BUDGET OR A POLICY, HE'S READ IT FIRST. AND HE'S A POET. SO I WONDER YOUR I WONDER YOUR THOUGHTS IF. AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS AND GO THROUGH THE VOTE. IF, IF WE COULD CONSIDER MAC AS VICE CHAIR AND THEN IF MAC IS WILLING, THEN HE CAN JUST GO TO THE THINGS I'M GOING TO BUILD, THE RELATIONSHIPS I'M BUILDING. AND SO AT THE END OF 12 MONTHS, WE HAVE A BUILT IN CHAIR SHOULD WE NEED A BUILT IN CHAIR. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? HE BROUGHT COOKIES. HE BROUGHT THE COOKIE LAST TIME HE BROUGHT A STATUE. ALWAYS BRING SNACKS. I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. ALTHOUGH I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S THE WILL OF THE BODY. AND WHOEVER IS NOMINATED AND ACCEPTED AND ETC. I THINK DISCUSSION IS NICE. IF THERE WAS A DISCUSSION BEFORE BEFORE THE VOTE ON THE OFFICER POSITIONS, BUT IN A WAY IT'S SORT OF INFLUENCING US. OH, THAT WASN'T MY INTENTION, BUT THAT'S THE WAY THAT'S COME ACROSS. I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S THE WAY IT'S COMING ACROSS. BUT THAT'S OKAY. BUT I THINK THAT IT'S GOOD BECAUSE EVEN IF HE'S THE VICE CHAIR, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR. HE STILL MAY NOT BE ELECTED AS THE CHAIR, BUT HE STILL HAS THAT KNOWLEDGE BASE THAT HE CAN CONTINUE. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHT. AND WE THOUGHT THAT ANGELA WOULD BE A GOOD CANDIDATE BECAUSE OF HER KNOWLEDGE OF PARLIAMENTARIANISM. SHE IS ALSO EXEMPLARY, BUT AGAIN, I HAVE TO REAPPLY FOR THE BOARD. I HAVE TO REAPPLY. I KNOW, OKAY, SO YOUR POINT IS ACTUALLY VERY, VERY VALID. AND I APPRECIATE THAT MINE WAS MORE OF A CONTEXT WHERE WE WERE SETTING PRECEDENT FOR TRANSITION. AND SO I SEE YOUR POINT. SO I'M GOING TO GO UNLESS THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION, I'LL MOVE OFF FROM

[4. Election of Commission Chair]

VOTE. YOU CAN RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU WOULD. OKAY. CARRIE. SO ITEM FIVE, ELECTION OF THE

[5. Election of Commission Vice Chair]

SECOND NOMINATION. IS THERE A SO WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR A SECOND? SECOND. WHAT IS YOUR MOTION? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A NOMINATION. IT'S NOT A NOMINATING MAC FOR VICE CHAIR FOR THIS YEAR. IS THERE A SECOND? YES, SECOND. YEAH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A SECOND FOR NOMINATIONS. YOU'RE JUST ACCEPTING NOMINATIONS. OKAY. AND IF HE ACCEPTS IT, THAT'S FINE.

ASK ANYBODY ELSE IF THEY WANT. WOULD YOU ACCEPT IT? I ACCEPT, THANK YOU. NOMINATIONS. YOU CAN

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TIM, AND I HAVE BONDED OVER THE PAST 24 YEARS, 20 MONTHS. MONTHS. I APPRECIATE TIM IMMENSELY. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX, THE ARTS COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THE

[6. The Arts Commission to consider the following Minutes]

SO MY SUGGESTION IS SOMEHOW THAT WE WORK ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

SO I REACHED OUT TO TIFFANY WYATT AND ASKED HER TO BRING ALL OF THAT. SO WE CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT ALL DOCUMENTED AND CAUGHT UP. YEAH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS RECOMMENDED IN EMAIL FROM IS IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE IS ON THE RECORD, MAKE RECOGNIZE THAT TO ALEX, LET HIM KNOW THAT YOU WANT IT ON THE RECORD. SO GENERALLY WHEN HE'S SUBMITTING OUR MINUTES, IT'S OSTENSIBLY ACTION ITEMS. AND SO LIKE AGAIN SO IT'S GOING TO BE VERY BASIC. BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK THAT DESERVES TO BE IN THE RECORD, BE SURE TO LET THEM KNO. IT'S RATHER LITERALLY THE MINUTES OF WHAT WE SPEND HERE AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS TIME, AND ANYTHING ELSE WOULD BE ADDED TO DOCUMENT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO DO NEXT MONTH. I MEAN, SO YEAH, SO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN HE'S DOING THIS, HE'S JUST GOING TO HE'S JUST GOING TO ADD OUR ACTIONS. WHO'S HERE? WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, WHAT WAS ACTION. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE LIKE ANNA WAS TALKING ABOUT, IF SHE WANTS THERE TO BE MORE DETAIL AND IF SHE WOULD JUST MAKE NOTE OF IT, I'D LIKE THIS TO BE ON THE RECORD FOR US THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE GIVE REPORTS SO THAT THEY COULD BE DOCUMENTED, YOU KNOW, LIKE ON THE COLAB OR WHATEVER.

OKAY. THANKS. AND I SUGGEST THAT MAYBE IF THEY GIVE REPORTS TO GIVE WRITTEN REPORTS, AND THEN IT BECOMES PART OF THE RECORD THAT WAY. THAT WAY HE DOESN'T HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT AND THEY SUBMIT. IT JUST BECOMES PART OF THE RECORD. PERHAPS IF WE CAME UP WITH SOME SORT OF POST-EVENT FORM, WHICH IS DOCUMENTED, WHAT WE SPENT, WHAT WE SPENT, IT ON, NOT A LENGTHY REPORT, NOT LIKE THE EVENT REPORT, BUT SOMETHING THAT SIMPLY STATED, YOU KNOW WHAT THE DATE WAS, WHAT THE EVENT WAS, OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE WHAT WE SPENT, WHAT WE DID. I KNOW AT THE THEATER WE KEEP A FOLDER ON EVERY SHOW GOING BACK TO MARCH OF 1988. SO THAT YOU CAN PULL THAT IN ANY TIME. AND KNOW WHAT WE DID. AND I KEEP A LITTLE I HAVE A I JUST A, A SHEET LIKE THIS WHERE I WRITE DOWN, WE SPENT THIS MUCH ON PROPS AND THIS MUCH ON EVERY SHOW. SO WE CAN PULL THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME WAY THAT WE COULD JUST ARCHIVE THAT INFORMATION. I UNDERSTAND MINUTES ARE MINUTES ARE COLD AND BRUTAL, AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THEY'RE JUST ACTION ITEMS. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS FAR AS KEEPER OF THE KNOWLEDGE, WE WANT TO HAVE THE SAME KIND OF EVENT NEXT YEAR. WELL, WHAT DID WE DO LAST YEAR? AND PERHAPS PICTURES ARE PART OF THAT. THAT'S THE OTHER THING WE DO IS WE TAKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A RECEPTION, WE TAKE PICTURES OF ALL THE TABLES SO WE KNOW WHAT WE DID, AND THAT BECOMES PART OF THAT FOLDER THAT DOCUMENTATION. AND SO PERHAPS COMING UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE WE COULD ARCHIVE IT. NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'D KEEP THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF

[00:20:03]

[7.a. Arts Calendar]

NO, YOU SET A TIMER. SO THIS IS THIS. THIS GOES INTO OKAY LET'S START NOW. SO THIS GOES INTO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING AND THE MEETINGS I'M HAVING AND WHAT I WANT OUT OF IT. YOU WILL FOLLOW UP WITH AN EMAIL ANY KIND OF POST CONVERSATION. BUT ON OCTOBER 24TH AND 25TH, MCMILLAN INSTITUTE IS HAVING AN EXECUTIVE SEMINAR ON CIVIC LEADERSHIP. I'M GOING TO BE THERE. I THINK MARY ANN IS GOING TO BE THERE.

THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY STAFF THERE. ON OCTOBER 29TH. I'VE BEEN INVITED TO PRESENT AT THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO DISCUSS OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, OCTOBER 31ST. I WAS INVITED TO A STAFF MEETING AT CITY HALL. THE TOPIC IS REDEFINING PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS, DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY STAFF. LOOK RIGHT HERE. SO THIS IS KIND OF COOL. WE HAVE A GUEST IN THAT. WE HAVE A GUEST IN THE ROOM TODAY, MISS GAYLE SLAGER. SHE CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY AND SHE SAYS, I WANT TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT CAN BENEFIT THE ARTS COMMISSION AND PERHAPS CAN BE A LEGACY FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION. SO SHE AND SUE CLARK ARE HOSTING AND FUNDING THIS EVENT CALLED L'AFFAIRE. AND IT'S MEANT TO BE THE FIRST PART OF AN ARTS MARKET AND FESTIVAL. SHE'S BEEN COORDINATING ALL THE ARTISTS AND IS TAKING CARE OF EVERYTHING WITH A PORTION OF THE PROCEEDS AND DONATIONS WILL BENEFIT THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION. I WILL TELL YOU, I AM PERSONALLY PAYING FOR A VIOLINIST OR SOMEONE TO PERFORM AT ONE OF THE EVENTS. SO IF YOU CAN PUT THIS ON YOUR CALENDAR AND SHOW UP. MISS SLIGER HAS INVITED ME TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ARTS COMMISSION. THESE ARE ALL VERY ACCOMPLISHED WOMEN OVER 50, MOST OF THEM HAVE ROOTS IN DUNCANVILLE. THEIR FAMILY HAVE ROOTS IN DUNCANVILLE AND THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL HOMECOMING. NOVEMBER SEVENTH, I'M GOING TO ATTEND THE RICHARDSON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SYMPOSIUM WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS. I'M GOING TO ASK MACK OR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COME WITH ME NOVEMBER 6TH. I'VE BEEN INVITED TO SPEAK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE ABOUT THE CULTURAL DISTRICT, SOME SCHEDULING AND PLANNING. I'M WORKING ON PLANNING ON JOINT MEETINGS WITH DC-DC PARK CITY COUNCIL. I HAVE PLANS TO MEET WITH THE TEXAS COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS, THE TEXAS CULTURAL TRUST, COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF TEXAS, CREATIVE WACO AND WACO INDEPENDENT FILM FESTIVAL. AND IF YOU WANT TO COME WITH ME, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO COME. DALLAS ARTS DISTRICT FAIR PARK, DEEP ELLUM FOUNDATION. AND NOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE ARTS COMMISSION DEVELOP ONE ON ONE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE HOTEL MOTEL MANAGEMENT IN DUNCANVILLE. THE COME TOGETHER PHOTOGRAPHY

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MEETING HAS BEEN TWO MINUTES, TIM, BECAUSE THAT'S MY THAT'S MY REPORT. YOU WEREN'T EVEN TIMING.

I WAS SOMEWHERE JUST LOGGED ME OUT. OKAY, EXACTLY. THANK YOU. THANKS, TIM. NOW WE PRACTICED SO FORMER NO POEM. WE LOVE A POEM. ALL RIGHT. YOU ASKED FOR IT. THIS ONE'S CALLED MUSIC MAGIC SOUNDS. EMOTION LIFTING, SWIRLING AROUND UNTIL CRASHING DOWNWARD IN BASS FILLED RUSH, ONLY TO PAUSE ITS SILENCE PLIED IN PREGNANT SIDE, BROKEN LIGHTLY BY SOLEMN NOTES, LINGERING CLOSE SUDDENLY UP AGAIN TO SOAR WITH HEAVEN'S BIRD'S IMPASSIONED TRILLS. BUILDING FORCEFUL RESONANCE, KNIT THAN MELODY, REPEATEDLY REACHING INWARD WITH MUSIC MAGIC TO CARRY SOUNDS EMOTIVE SONG. BRAVO! THANKS, MA. AMY. ONLY ONE THING I DID SPEAK TO THE TEXAS ETHICS COMMISSION AT LENGTH. THREE PHONE CALLS AND IT SEEMS THAT IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO REMAIN ON THE COMMISSION AND JUST RECUSE MYSELF FROM THE THEATER AS FUNDING FOR ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE THE COMMISSION OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT SEEM TO BE A CONFLICT. BUT BY AND LARGE, BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE ARTS, THE ETHICS COMMISSION FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR ME TO REMAIN ON THE COMMISSION. SO I WILL DO SO. THANK YOU, AMY AND MAC. MATT. DON MCFARLAND ASKED ME TO SPEAK AT THE LIONS CLUB, WHICH I DID, AND I SHARED THE TWO VIDEOS THAT, YOU KNOW, I PUT TOGETHER FOR JUNETEENTH AND THE HISPANIC WEEK AS WELL AS THE VIDEO TIM PUT TOGETHER FOR THE ON THE PHOTO EXHIBIT THAT WE DIDN'T GET TO PLAY AT THE COLAB. BUT FOR THE RECORD, I AM CO-SPONSORING A FILM SERIES AT THE MCMILLAN INSTITUTE ON FRIDAY NIGHTS, COMING UP IN THE NEXT MONTH.

THREE MONTHS, AND YOU HAVE THE FLIER FOR THAT. AND I STARTED TEACHING IT IN A HUMANITIES CLASS TODAY AT MOUNTAIN VIEW AND ELITE CLASS. SO CONGRATULATIONS. STOP RESET. GO DUCK BILL ARTS DIRECTORY CONTINUES TO SIT ON MY COMPUTER. SOMEONE SUGGESTED LAST TIME JUST TO DO A GOOGLE SHEETS INSTEAD OF LOOKING FOR SOME SORT OF PROGRAM TO PURCHASE, AND I THINK THAT WILL WORK. OKAY. CAN WE START POPULATING IT? I WILL SEE WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN WITH THAT LEGALLY, BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY KNOW. BUT I KNOW WE ALL HAVE PEOPLE TO INPUT, AND YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THE LIST OF THINGS TO GO INTO IT. THE WRITER'S GROUP SPENT FIVE. WE HAD SIX PEOPLE THERE, FOUR PEOPLE READ, ONE OTHER PERSON COMMITTED TO READING. THE NEXT TIME WE WILL MEET AGAIN ON NOVEMBER 4TH, MONDAY. LIBRARY IS BEING VERY SUPPORTIVE. THEY ARE DOING THE FLIERS. THEY'RE PUTTING IT ON THEIR WEBSITE AND PAGES. IT'S ON THE ELECTRONIC ELECTRONIC BOARD OUT ON THE CORNER. SO IT'S NOT AS STRUCTURED AS I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE, BUT THAT'S FINE. SO COME AND SUPPORT THAT AND TELL PEOPLE WHO WRITE YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO PRESENT ANYTHING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE CRITIQUE. FOR THE RECORD, I DID FINISH THE SHORT STORY THAT I WAS AGONIZING OVER AND THEY SAID, YES. YOU LOOK AT HIM SMILING, OKAY, THANKS-GIVING SQUARE IS PROCEEDING WITH THE DALLAS POET LAUREATE. SHE IS PRESENTING 40 POEMS ON NOT HER POEMS. IN FACT, IT WAS IT WAS WHO KIND OF SPURRED US TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THAT. HE WAS GOING TO PRESENT TWO, BUT THEY'RE ON SECULAR VIRTUES, AND IT SHOULD BE A NICE AFTERNOON.

THAT IS THE SECOND. I THINK IT'S 2 TO 4 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A FLIER FOR AN INTERNATIONAL DINNER. IT'S ON THE NINTH, 630. THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP THAT'S AN INTERFAITH

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[8. City Manager presentation on the Arts Fund]

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SO SUPER SIMPLE. THEY CAN OBVIOUSLY PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION IF THEY LIKE. THEY WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION FOR THE EVENT. THE NAME OF THE EVENT, LOCATION OF THE EVENT, THE REQUEST FOR THE ARTS FUNDING, HOW IT'LL BE RECOGNIZED, HOW TO INVOLVE THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE AND SPECIFICALLY THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. THEN IT'LL COME TO YOU GUYS. OKAY, SO IT'LL COME TO YOU GUYS. YOU GUYS CAN MEET WITH THE APPLICANT. YOU CAN DELIBERATE ON IT. YOU CAN DISCUSS IT. AND THEN ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ARTS COMMISSION ON BASICALLY A YES OR A NO. WHETHER OR NOT YOU SUPPORT FUNDING THAT, THEN IT'LL MAKE ITS WAY TO CITY COUNCIL. NOW, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

AND I HEARD THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT WERE MENTIONED EARLIER. WHAT I TELL YOU IS BEEN WORKING A LOT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WHAT WE HAVE IS A CONTRACT IN PLACE FOR ANYBODY THAT GETS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY OF THAT. YOU'RE NOT INVOLVED IN ANY OF THOSE DETAILS. WE WANT TO MAKE IT SUPER SIMPLE FOR YOU. IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE FUNDING, THEN WE WILL ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE PERSON WHO IS IN RECEIPT OF THE FUNDING THAT CONTRACT WILL DETAIL SPECIFICALLY THE FUNDING AMOUNT. IN THIS CASE, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THERE WAS JUST RECENTLY, THERE WAS ONE I SIGNED TODAY FOR HOOPFEST THAT GOT APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL BACK ON OCTOBER 7TH FOR, FOR INSTANCE, $85,000 IS SPECIFICALLY THE CONTRACT SPELLS OUT THOSE PORTIONS OF THE FUNDS THAT MAKES IT QUALIFY. THEY SIGN IT. I SIGN IT BECAUSE THE COUNCIL'S AUTHORIZED ME TO EXECUTE THAT AGREEMENT. THEN THEY GET NOTHING EXCEPT FOR A PIECE OF PAPER. AFTER THE EVENT, THEY COME IN AND SUBMIT RECEIPTS. WE VERIFY THAT THOSE RECEIPTS ARE IN KEEPING WITH THAT CONTRACT, AND THEN WE WILL APPROVE A CHECK TO BE ISSUED. SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU GUYS, WHAT'S WHAT'S YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THIS WILL BE. AND I WANT TO TALK THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT WITH YOU. BUT YOU'LL RECEIVE AN APPLICATION. OR IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU INITIATE AS WELL. YOU WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. WE WOULD HAVE THE APPLICATION EVEN IF IT'S THE ARTS COMMISSION ITSELF, WE'LL STILL WANT A PAPER TRAIL. WE'LL STILL WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE DOING. FILL THAT OU. THAT'LL MAKE ITS WAY TO CITY COUNCIL TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. IF THEY GIVE THE THUMBS UP AND GREEN LIGHT, THEN WE'LL ENTER INTO THAT CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENT. SO HOW SIMPLE IS THAT? HE SOUND GOOD. HE SOUNDS SUPER SIMPLE. WHAT QUESTIONS? WHAT CAN I ANSWER? MARIANNE. SO DEFINITELY UNDERSTANDING. WE CAN INVITE PEOPLE TO APPLY. YES. SO WE CAN DO THAT. YES. THAT'S SIMPLER THAN I THOUGHT. THANKS.

OKAY. BUT YES THEY HAVE TO, BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE FUNDS AND THEN YOU REIMBURSE. AND THEN A LOT OF ARTISTS DON'T. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. SOMETIMES THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS AND ARE SEEKING SOME ASSISTANCE. SO IF THERE ARE ANY LEEWAY IN THE CONTRACT THAT GIVES THEM SEED MONEY OR ANYTHING TO START OFF OR THEY HAVE TO JUST FIGURE THAT PART OUT. HOT FUNDS IS REIMBURSABLE.

BUT HERE'S WHAT I WILL TELL YOU. AND YOU HAVE A MEMBER OF THE EDC BOARD HERE THIS EVENING AS WELL.

THE EDC IS ALSO VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR FORB BOARD OF THE ARTS AND EVERYTHING THE EDC CAN DO. SPONSORSHIP, GRANTS. SO THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION IN THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MENTIONED IN OUR JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL IS THAT REIMBURSEMENT IS FOR ARTS IS NOT A BEST PRACTICE WITHIN THE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. SO I APPRECIATE YOU FINDING US AROUND THAT. HOT IS ONE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THIS FUND. WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE FUNDS, GRANTS AND SO WHICH THEN WE'LL HAVE ALL THE RESTRICTIONS AND THEN THEY'LL BE DIFFERENT. RIGHT. SO THEN WE'LL DEVELOP A PROCEDURE FOR THAT. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DEVELOP POLICIES THAT ARE SMART NOW AND WILL BE SMART TEN YEARS FROM NOW. SO WHEN THEY APPLY FOR THE SPONSORSHIP, IS THAT ANOTHER APPLICATION THAT THEY WOULD APPLY? IT'S LITERALLY THE SAME EXACT APPLICATION.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING A ONE APPLICATION CONSOLIDATED. SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME APPLICATION IF THEY IDENTIFY OR MAYBE WE DON'T FIND OUT. BUT IN THE COURSE OF THE CONVERSATION WITH YOU, WE FIND OUT THAT THEY CAN'T DO THE MONEY UP FRONT. THEY NEED THE SPONSORSHIP. WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE THE APPLICATION. WE WOULD JUST FUNNEL IT OVER TO THE EDC FOR THE SPONSORSHIP. OKAY, SO IS

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IS THE REIMBURSEMENT SITUATION OR RULING ACTUALLY IN THE STATE TAX CODE, OR IS THAT A LOCAL DUNCANVILLE RULE? BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE PAST IT HAD BEEN A GRANT, WAS A GRANT. AND MY HISTORY WITH THE HOT FUNDS AND DUNCANVILLE IS THEY DIDN'T START REQUIRING RECEIPTS AND DOING THE REIMBURSEMENT UNTIL I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT YEAR KEVIN CAME, BUT IT WAS THE SECOND OR THIRD YEAR HERE. AND I DON'T THINK THE TAX CODE CHANGED AT THAT TIME. THE CITY CHANGED THE WAY THEY WANTED TO ADMINISTRATE IT. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY DISCUSSION THAT COULD BE HAD BECAUSE AS ANGELA SAID, IT IS HARD A LOT OF TIMES AND SO IT DID USED TO BE THAT IT WAS A GRANT THAT IF YOU GOT SO MUCH MONEY, NOT UNLIKE WHEN THE THEATER GOT A MEADOWS FOUNDATION GRANT, WE GOT THE MONEY AND THEN WE SHOWED THEM WHAT WE DID, BUT WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TURN IN RECEIPTS. AND THAT'S THE WAY THE HOT FUNDS USED TO BE ADMINISTRATED IN DUNCANVILLE.

AND THEN IT WAS CHANGED SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY TO BE REIMBURSEMENT. AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THAT WAS A LOCAL RULING OR IF THAT'S A STATE RULING. SURE. GREAT QUESTION. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND IT PROBABLY COINCIDES WITH THE TIMING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THAT'S WHEN THE CITY ACTUALLY STARTED USING THE CONTRACTS. AND THEN GOT AWAY FROM THE CONTRACTS FOR THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS, AND NOW WE'RE GETTING BACK TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE PAPER TRAIL AND DOCUMENT EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON THE CONTRACT SPECIFICALLY REQUIRE THE REIMBURSEMENT SO THAT WE CAN VERIFY THAT IT IS HOT FUNDS.

RIGHT? IT WAS IT WAS THERE WAS A CONTRACT PRIOR TO THAT. IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT CONTRACT. THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE WAS CHANGED AND THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING, IS THAT A DUNCANVILLE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE WHEN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE CHANGED THE CONTRACT, OR IS THAT A STATE TAX CODE? NO, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY IN THE TAX CODE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT. BUT I THINK IT WOULD MAKE IT VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR STAFF TO VERIFY WHETHER OR NOT IT ACTUALLY WOULD QUALIFY FOR HOT FUNDS IF WE WERE UP FRONT IN THE MONEY. YEAH, I JUST HAD THE SAME CONCERNS THAT SHE DID ABOUT THE ARTISTS. IF THE COMMISSION AND THE BOARD, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD, UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT HAS TO APPROVE THOSE FUNDS, THEN, THEN IT HAS TO BE PREDETERMINED THAT, YES, THIS WOULD QUALIFY FOR A HOT FUND BASED ON WHATEVER THEY PRESENT TO US. SO THERE'S ALREADY A PREDETERMINATION STEP INVOLVED. IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT FOR DCC, IT WOULD BE JUST TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THEY APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE WOULD BE REALLY BASED ON THE IDEA THAT, YEAH, THIS QUALIFIES, OR THIS DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR US. IT MIGHT BE BASED ON THAT, BUT MORE SO, THE MERITS OF WHAT WANTS TO BE BROUGHT TO DUNCANVILLE, YOU KNO, AS AN ARTS COMMISSION, WHAT WHAT SOMEONE WANTS TO BRING TO DUNCANVILLE, WILL IT BENEFIT DUNCANVILLE? YOU KNOW, IN THE SENSE OF WHAT THE ARTS ARE ABOUT. AND SO I SEE TWO DIFFERENT ROLES HERE. I'VE BEEN ON THE I'VE BEEN ON THE RECEIVING END, AS AMY HAS, AS AS A THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR THE MUSEUM OF INTERNATIONAL CULTURES, WHICH GOT A CHUNK OF THEIR FUNDING FROM THE HOT FUNDS AND I'VE SEEN THE HORROR OF GETTING RECEIPTS SUBMITTED AND HAVING THEM REJECTED TIME AND TIME AGAIN BASED ON A CRITERIA THAT SEEMED TO FLOAT OKAY. SO I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S JUST TRYING TO STAY ABOVE WATER THAT RELIES ON AN INFUSION OF FUNDING TO HAVE TO PUT THEIR MONEY OUT, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE INITIALLY AND IN ORDER. AND THEN, YOU KNO, AND THEN SHOW THE RECEIPTS ON ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT THEY MAY BE APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY SHOULD BE. SO I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT POLICY, WHERE AT LEAST THE ARTS FUNDING IS CONCERNED, THE ARTS AVENUE FUNDING IS CONCERNED. ALSO, THE OTHER QUESTION, THE OTHER THOUGHT I HAD WAS OUR QUESTION IS IT USED TO BE LIKE A ONE TIME OF YEAR, MAYBE TWICE A YEAR PEOPLE COULD APPLY IS THERE STILL A DESIGNATED TIME WHEN YOU CAN APPLY FOR HOT FUNDS? I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU GUYS NEED TO ACTUALLY DISCUSS THAT AND HAVE A CONVERSATION, BECAUSE THERE REALLY IS NO REASON WHY YOU GUYS CAN'T ENTERTAIN ARTS APPLICATIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. I DON'T SEE A REASON FOR NECESSARILY A TIME LIMIT UNLESS YOU GUYS THINK OF ONE. SO I WAS WATCHING A MEETING AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN HOT REVENUE IS COLLECTED. SO HERE'S THE I WOULDN'T BE TOO OVERLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT. THAT'S GETTING TOO

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PURSUE THAT A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S SOME THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY. MAYBE IT'S THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN AN ARTIST OR SOMETHING, AND THEN THAT PERSON SPENDS THE NIGHT AT THE HOTEL.

YOU HAVE SO MUCH FLEXIBILITY. THERE IS A LOT YOU CAN DO WITH IT. YOU KNOW, HE HE SAID, WHAT I HEARD THE CITY ATTORNEY SAY WHAT I'VE HEARD OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY BE CREATIVE, LEAN INTO IT.

GO FORTH AND CONQUER THAT QUESTION. CAN WE DO NOW EVENTS THAT ARE TICKETED AND EVENTS? CAN THEY? BECAUSE LIKE TIM IS SAYING, WE HAVE AN ACCOUNT AND IF PEOPLE IF WE CAN RAISE MONEY THAT WAY AND IT COULD GO INTO THAT ACCOUNT FOR US. SO THERE'S JUST LOGISTICS. THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, YOU COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE'S JUST LOGISTICS. WE HAVE TO WORK OUT RIGHT. BECAUSE THEN YOU'VE GOT THE PARKS DIRECTOR SITTING HERE. SO IF IT'S IN A PARK RIGHT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FENCE OFF THE PARK? AND THEN WHO'S COLLECTING THE MONEY? WE WOULD HAVE TO REALLY FIGURE OUT THE LOGISTICS OF IT. I KNOW WITH SOME DIFFERENT THINGS THAT'S COME UP RECENTLY. WE'VE EVEN TALKED ABOUT SUGGESTED DONATIONS OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WHERE PEOPLE COULD MAKE A DONATION TO THE ARTS COMMISSION TO ATTEND THE EVENT. THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN GET CREATIVE WITH THAT. THE GREAT THING ABOUT THIS IS, IS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. THEY'RE MEANT TO GROW. THEY'RE MEANT TO ROLL OUT AND DO SOMETHING AMAZING. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT STARTS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AND IT'S GOING TO DEPLETE AT THE END. WE CAN WE CAN MAKE IT GROW EXPONENTIALLY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CITY MANAGER? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS BOTTOM LINE DOWN HERE THAT SAYS PORTIONS OF PROCEEDS AND DONATIONS WILL BENEFIT THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A BANK ACCOUNT. HERE WE GO. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD NO. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER

[9.a. Movies in the Park and Concerts in the Park discussion with Director of Parks and Recreation Bart Stevenson.]

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RIGHT. AND I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU FROM A PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR'S PERSPECTIVE AND MY STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE. WE ARE 100% ON BOARD WITH THAT EFFORT. ANY WAY THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH, INCLUDING ART IN THE PARKS, WE ARE BEHIND YOU. THAT IS ONE COMPONENT THAT IT IS SEVERELY LACKING IN OUR PARK SYSTEM. WE HAVE NO PART IN THE PARKS AND SO WE ARE ON BOARD WITH THAT. WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ASSIST YOU WITH THAT. LET US KNOW SPECIFICALLY. AND I THINK IT WAS ITEM EIGHT ON THIS. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW YOU GUYS CAN GET INVOLVED WITH SOME OF OUR EVENTS, OUR COMMUNITY EVENTS, AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH OVER THE YEARS, SUCH AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, JUNETEENTH, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND THOSE ARE STILL THERE, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME COLLABORATION ON THOSE EFFORTS. SPECIFICALLY.

HOWEVER, WE WOULD LOVE TO REIMAGINE OUR CONCERTS IN THE PARK AND OUR MOVIES IN THE PARK.

THE ATTENDANCE FOR THOSE EVENTS, WHILE HAVEN'T BEEN OVERWHELMING, AND SO WE WOULD LOVE TO REIMAGINE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, HOW THAT COULD BE. AND I THINK WORKING WITH YOUR GROUP WOULD BE A GREAT WAY, A GREAT START TO ENHANCING THOSE THOSE EFFORTS, THOSE EVENTS. AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. YOU PROBABLY KNOW BETTER THAN I YOU HAVE BETTER IDEAS THAN I DO DOING A CONCERT SERIES, DOING A OUTDOOR FILM FESTIVAL, THINGS LIKE THAT, THINGS THAT KIND OF BUILD UPON THEMSELVES OVER A TIME. BRINGING IN THE FOOD TRUCK, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS THAT HAVEN'T MADE THAT NEXT STEP. AND SO I THINK NOW'S THE TIME TO TAKE THAT NEXT STEP. AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ON BRINGING ART TO THE PARKS. I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT IDEAS OVER THE YEARS. I'VE GONE TO SEVERAL SEMINARS AT MY CONFERENCES ABOUT ART IN THE PARK. THERE'S SOME GREAT IDEAS OUT THERE, AND I'D LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU AND SHARE WITH SOME OF THOSE IDEAS. ARE WHOEVER WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND THEN AS WELL AS OUR EVENTS. SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO ASSIST YOU IN YOUR EFFORTS AND SPEND YOUR MONEY FOR YOU. SO WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS NECESSARILY. PERHAPS, PERHAPS WE PUT TOGETHER A SUBCOMMITTEE OF YOUR GROUP, CAN WORK WITH OUR STAFF, COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS, MAYBE GET THAT COMMITTEE COMES BACK TO YOUR LARGER COMMITTEE AND SHARES IT WITH THAT, SHARES THOSE IDEAS. AND WE KIND OF TAKE THAT NEXT STEP. I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU GUYS, YOUR COMMISSION, CAN YOU HANG OUT SO YOU CAN HEAR ITEM TEN AND ITEM 11? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE WHAT IS IT CALLED THE IT'S ON THERE. YEAH I CAN'T READ MY WRITING WRITING CULTURAL DISTRICT. YES ARMSTRONG PARK RIGHT. RIGHT. WHAT A GREAT START. ALL OF OUR PARKS NEED ART. I GET A LOT OF CITIES THAT ARE ATHLETIC COMPLEXES, HAVE STATUES, YOU KNOW, SPORTS, STATUES, THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, THINGS THAT ATTRACT. WE HAVE A HUGE TOURNAMENT COMMUNITY. AND HARRINGTON PARK AND AT ALEXANDER PARK SOFTBALL TOURNAMENTS ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND. ALEXANDER LEAGUES AREN'T GOING ON. SAME THING WITH HARRINGTON. WE HAVE SOCCER TOURNAMENTS GOING ON. WE HAVE HOPEFULLY CROSS YOUR FINGERS. WE'LL BE GETTING STARTED ON OUR BOND PROJECTS FOR HARRINGTON HERE FAIRLY SOON, BUT WHAT A GREAT TIME TO START INITIATING THAT ART COMPONENT TO THE PARKS.

WHEN WE REBUILD THOSE CONCESSION AND RESTROOM BUILDINGS. SO WE'RE ALL IN AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS. THAT'S AWESOME. ANY QUESTIONS? I HOPE THAT YOU'LL INCLUDE US TOO. WHEN YOU GET READY TO DO YOUR DOG PARK SO YOU CAN INCLUDE THE ARTS COMMISSION. ABSOLUTELY. DOG PARK AND THE LAD NATURE PRESERVE. ANOTHER GREAT WAY TO INTRODUCE ART. YOU KNOW, ART, SCULPTURE, YOU KNOW, NATIVE TYPE STUFF, NATURAL TYPE THINGS. RIGHT. SOME GREAT WIND SCULPTURES OUT THERE.

I'VE SEEN CITY FLOWER MAN HAS A FANTASTIC WIND SCULPTURES, THINGS THAT REALLY FIT INTO THAT LANDSCAPE AND THAT NATURE THEME THAT I KNOW THAT THE LAD NATURE PRESERVE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH OUR CONSULTANT. SO WE MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUGGEST SOME FILMS. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE WE'VE TRIED TO CHANGE UP OUR GENRES, YOU KNOW, EVERY FILM, TRY TO STICK WITH MOSTLY, I'LL SAY PG AND LOW FOR FAMILY, FAMILY FRIENDLY THINGS. BUT YEAH, MAYBE WE DO SOME TYPE OF A SERIES THAT'S BASED UPON A CERTAIN THEME. YOU KNOW, HAVING A TRUE FILM FESTIVAL. I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMMUNITIES THAT DO THAT. MAYBE THEY DO THAT IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE OFFERINGS WE DO ALREADY WITH FILMS, BUT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING TO BUILD UP THAT MOMENTUM AND GET THE PEOPLE COMING. WE NEED

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REALLY? YEAH. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FOR YOU HERE. CAN YOU

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WELCOME TO ARTS COMMISSION. BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN PART OF ARTS COMMISSION. SHE'S HERE TO DISCUSS THE ROLE OF THE COUNCIL LIAISON TO THE ARTS COMMISSION. CITY COUNCIL'S EXPECTATIONS AND THE RECENT TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE ANNUAL CONFERENCE SESSION. BANKING AND ART MAKING A SMART INVESTMENT. MISS GOODEN. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE SOME PHENOMENAL ITEMS AND INITIATIVES AND WORK THUS FAR IN SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO IT AND ALL OF THE THINGS YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH. SO FAR. WE'RE VERY PROUD OF YOU WHEN WE SAY THAT. SO WOULD YOU PREFER THAT I SIT HERE, OR WOULD YOU PREFER THAT I COME WHEREVER YOU'RE COMFORTABLE? OKAY, SO I'LL STAY HERE THEN. WE'VE HEARD SO MANY GREAT AND PROMISING THINGS. YOU HAVE MONEY. WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE PARKS, MR. FINCH HAS SPOKEN TO HOW YOU HAVE STAFF SUPPORT AS WELL. WE HAVE NOW CC AND ALEX AND THEN DCDC IS REPRESENTED.

AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE COMMUNITY PUTTING TOGETHER EVENTS. SO THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. ALL OF US COMING TOGETHER. SO MY ROLE HOW I SEE IT IS NUMBER ONE IS BEING YOUR ADVOCATE, YOUR CHEERLEADER AND YOUR COACH. SO WHEN I SAY COACH, I AM TALKING ABOUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE YOUR INITIATIVES, YOUR DESIRES ARE STAYING IN LINE WITH THE VISION THAT COUNCIL HAS FOR THE CITY? WE ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE ITEM THAT YOU PRESENTED TO US WHEN WE HAD OUR JOINT MEETING CALLED THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. WE ARE EXTREMELY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT BEING ACCOMPLISHED AND THAT BEING YOUR PRIORITY, NOT SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE BUT THAT IS THE MAIN GOAL IS TO GET THERE AND WHILE I WAS IN HTML IN HOUSTON, I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FROM DALLAS AND A COUNCIL MEMBER FROM DESOT.

DALLAS IS LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN DUNCANVILLE. WHY DO I SAY THAT? BECAUSE DISTRICT THREE COUNCIL MEMBER FROM DALLAS BORDERS CLARK ROAD, WHICH IS RIGHT UP AGAINST DUNCANVILLE. HE IS LOOKING TO HAVE DALLAS START DOING SOME MAJOR PROJECTS IN HIS DISTRICT THAT CAN KIND OF

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I AM OF THE OLD SCHOOL WHERE WE OVERPREPARE COULD BE THAT I'VE BEEN TRAUMATIZED IN SOME WAY, SOME FORM OR FASHION. HOWEVER, I BELIEVE IN OVER PREPARING AND BEING ABLE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTION THAT MAY BE THROWN AT YOU. WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALWAYS GET IT RIGHT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD. SO I'VE SHARED CITY COUNCIL'S EXPECTATIONS, GETTING THE CULTURAL DISTRICT, GETTING THE CULTURAL DISTRICT AND SUPPORTING THE ARTS, GROWING HERE IN DUNCANVILLE. YOU HAVE THE FUNDING NOW TO DO THAT AND FEEL FREE TO BE AS CREATIVE AS POSSIBLE IN GETTING THAT ACCOMPLISHED, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE A PART OF THE FABRIC OF WHO WE ARE. IT'S BEEN REQUESTED FOR THE ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICT HAS BEEN REQUESTED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NEW. I RECEIVED EMAILS FROM. I WANT TO SAY A LITTLE BIT PAST 2010 FROM ACTIVE, INVOLVED CITIZENS AND AN ARCHITECT WHO ALSO LIVED HERE IN DALLAS. DUNCANVILLE WAS INTERESTED IN HAVING AN ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICT WAY BACK WHEN, SO IT'S JUST NOW COMING TO FRUITION. SO I'M ASKING THAT WE MAKE THAT OUR PRIORITY IN GETTING THAT ACCOMPLISHED. SO SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT I LEARNED AT HTML, LET ME START WITH SAYING THIS. I WENT INTO THE SESSION WANTING TO LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AND I DID LEARN A FEW THINGS, BUT MAJORITY OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY DISCUSSED HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED BY RON AND THE ITEMS THAT HE'S PRESENTED TO THE ARTS COMMISSION. SITTING IN THAT ROOM, I WAS SO PROUD TO KNOW THAT WE HAD RON THOMPSON HERE CHAIRING OUR ARTS COMMISSION, AND YOU GUYS WORKING TO MAKE THESE ITEMS HAPPEN. WHO WAS IN THE ROOM YOU HAD MYSELF, YOU HAD COUNCIL MEMBER COMBS, AND YOU ALSO HAD COUNCIL MEMBER PENNEBAKER. WE HEARD THE PRESENTATION AND THERE WAS LITTLE THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD BEFORE HERE IN DUNCANVILLE. SO, RON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR RESEARCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR BACKGROUND. THANK YOU FOR THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU BRING, BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY HALFWAY THERE. THERE ARE ONLY 54 CULTURAL DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, OR 54 CULTURAL DISTRICTS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THE HOT TOOLKIT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I HEARD FROM RON, THAT THEY REALLY TALKED ABOUT.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON THAT WEBSITE, GO TO THE HOT TOOLKIT AND LOOK AT THAT. ONE COMPONENT IS WE NEED A CONCENTRATION OF EVENTS HAPPENING IN THE AREA THAT WE PLAN ON DESIGNATING AS A CULTURAL DISTRICT, $7 MILLION HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED AS OF LAST YEAR FOR THE ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICT THROUGHOUT TEXAS. $7 MILLION HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED, AND THE PREVIOUS YEAR FOR ARTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS, ABOUT 75,000 PER PROGRAM. I KNOW, SAME THING I SAID. SO

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THERE WERE BUTTONS EVERYWHERE. BUTTONS, BUTTONS, BUTTONS ALL OVER DURING THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AND SAID PARK ARTS. AND THE OTHER PART IS IT WAS VERY ENCOURAGING FOR ME TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE THREE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED THIS BANKING IN THE ARTS, COUNCILMAN PENNEBAKER SAID. FROM THE DIAS, I GET IT, EYES WIDE OPEN. I GET IT. SO WE THANK YOU AND COUNCIL MEMBER KOONS FOR REALLY LEANING AND GETTING HER BACK ON THIS. CAN I ADD ONE THING? THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE APPRECIATE YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU MORE THAN YOU PROBABLY APPRECIATE US BECAUSE WE'RE SO EXCITED ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AS WE WERE IN HOUSTON. IT WAS ART EVERYWHERE. EITHER THE CITY STAFF HAS DECIDED JUST TO KEEP US IN THIS ONE AREA. WHATEVER IT WAS, IT WORKED BECAUSE WE WERE SO INSPIRED BY IT. EVERYWHERE WE TURNED, IT WAS ART. EVEN WHEN I WAS CATCHING MY FLIGHT TO LEAVE OUT OF THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT IN HOUSTON, THERE IS ART

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I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I BELIEVE IS GOING TO GET US TO THAT DESIGNATION, AND IT'S NOT INTENDED TO IGNORE THINGS THAT AREN'T THAT AREN'T PART OF IT. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY WITH FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT ARTS ORGANIZATIONS AND ARTS ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES WITH HERE. YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY THIS. THE TEXAS COMMISSION OF THE ARTS DESIGNATED A CULTURAL DISTRICT, SHOULD BE READY FOR TOURISTS NOW. SO EVERY TIME I'VE SAID WE'VE GOT TO BE DOING IT NOW, IF THE STREETS AREN'T READY, IT'S NOT NOW. IF THERE'S PLANNED BUILDING OR LATER ON, IT'S NOT NOW. IT NEEDS TO BE NOW. DISTRICT SHOULD BE ACTIVATED WITH PREDICTABLE EVENTS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THE ARTS COMMISSION HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAN INTO IS WE WORK WITH NONPROFIT ARTS ORGANIZATIONS TO CREATE A SERIES LIKE LIKE THE PARKS DIRECTOR HAD MENTIONED, HOW WE MAKE IT PREDICTABLE. SO FIRST TIME EVENTS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. SO EVERYBODY GETS USED TO SOMETHING. ALSO, THE ARTS ORGANIZATIONS KNOW THAT DUNCANVILLE IS CREATING THESE ONGOING ACTIVITIES. ALSO, THE LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT. WELL, IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE JAZZ EVERY TUESDAY, WE CAN DEVELOP PROMOTIONS AROUND JAZZ EVERY TUESDAY. AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE COLLECTING ALL THE METRICS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE HAVING THE INFORMATION THEY NEED. WE HAVE EXISTING NONPROFIT ARTS ORGANIZATIONS. HOW DO WE HELP THEM AS WELL? AND WE ALL BE ABLE TO RISE WITH THE TIDE. VISITORS TO THE DISTRICT SHOULD KNOW THEY'RE IN A SPECIAL PLACE WITH INTERESTING THINGS TO DO AND SEE. ARTS CULTURE RESTAURANTS, LODGING AND FUN. SO WHAT I'VE DONE THROUGH THIS, I'VE SET A SLIDE FROM THE TCA, AND THEN I'VE COLOR CODED EVERYTHING GREEN MEANS I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO. YELLOW MEANS WE'VE GOT 12 MONTHS TO REALLY LEAN INTO IT. RED IS WE HAVE TO THINK REALLY HARD ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD ON IT. TWO IMPORTANT DATES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WRITE A LETTER OF INTENT ON JANUARY 31ST, WITH THE DEADLINE FOR THE FULL APPLICATION JUNE 15TH, WHEN I'M GOING TO SAY 2027. SO WE HAVE

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SO THIS IS ONE I THINK THAT WE CAN DO IT. BUT WHY NOT BE AGGRESSIVE AND SEE IF WE CAN GET IT IN 2026? ALL RIGHT. THIS IS WHERE ARE YOU READY FOR DISTRICT DESIGNATION. FIRST THING ON HERE IS THEIR STRONG POLITICAL SUPPORT I DO THIS YES. THERE IS STRONG POLITICAL SUPPORT. I TOOK THIS SCREEN CAPTURE OCTOBER. WELL OFF THE INTERNET. OCTOBER 15TH AT 8:36 P.M. AND THAT'S WHEN EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER APPROVED THE ARTS FUND FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION. OKAY, SO THIS IS GREEN. YELLOW. ARE YOU READY? SO THERE IS STRONG POLITICAL SUPPORT. WE HAVE THAT NOW.

DISTRICT PLANNING EFFORTS REFLECT THE DIVERSITY OF THE COMMUNITY. WE REALLY HAVEN'T STARTED, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT I'VE BEEN INVITED TO SPEAK AT THE CULTURAL DISTRICT IS GOING TO BE KEY, CRITICAL TO THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOT JUST THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS, BUT WE'RE WE'RE CHECKING ALL THE METRICS, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM TO PAY FOR THE DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PROMOTION ACTIVITIES WE KNOW WE'RE PART OF. IT'S GOING TO COME FROM, AND WE'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO FUND OTHER PLACES. THERE IS MARKETING AND PROMOTION STRATEGIES FOR THE PLANS WITH THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. SO HERE'S THE THING. A CULTURAL DISTRICT IS A PRODUCT. IT'S A PRODUCT THAT THE CITY IS OFFERING TO OUR COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF IT. WE'VE GOT A PACKAGE THAT PROTECT PRODUCT, WE'VE GOT TO IMPROVE THE PRODUCT, AND WE'VE GOT TO MARKET THE PRODUCT. SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FEEDS INTO. WHEN YOU COME INTO THE CULTURAL DISTRICT, YOU KNOW YOU'RE IN IT. AND EVERY SINGLE THING THAT HAPPENS IN THE CULTURAL DISTRICT, THERE'S MARKETING AND PROMOTION ALL OVER TOWN AND WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN SUPPORT THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEVELOP SIGNAGE. THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SIGNS THAT COME FROM FROM THE HIGHWAY POINTING DIRECTIONS TO THE CULTURAL DISTRICT FROM SEVERAL HIGHWAYS. THERE IS STRONG SUPPORT FROM THE ARTS AND CULTURAL LEADERS. I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO. YOU HAVE AN AGENCY WITH THE STAFF AND MANAGEMENT CAPACITY TO ACT AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND FISCAL AGENT.

THAT'S DC, DC. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE US. YOU HAVE ACCESS TO RESEARCH AND PLANNING EXPERTISE.

YES. SO ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS RIGHT NOW IS WE SEE CITY COUNCIL GOING TO IT. I'VE READ MY COMMISSIONER'S REPORT, THE MEETINGS I HAVE SET UP. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST IN DALLAS COUNTY. THERE ARE THREE CULTURAL DISTRICTS. THERE'S DEEP ELLUM, THERE'S ARTS DISTRICT AND THERE'S FAIR PARK. AT THE NASHER EVENT, I INTRODUCED THE MAYOR AND THE FOLKS WHO ARE THERE TO THE LADY WHO MADE TWO OF THEM. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE BEST ADVICE IN DOING THIS. WELL, YOU BETTER TAKE YOU HAVE ACCESS TO YOU KNOW, WHY YOU NEED A CULTURAL DISTRICT THAT IS GREEN. HERE'S A FUN PART WE'RE ALL GOING TO WANT. WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT WHY. PARKS IS GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT WHY DCDC IS GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT WHITE ARTS COMMISSION IS GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT WHY KEEP DUNCANVILLE BEAUTIFUL IS GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT WHY THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT WHY CITY STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT WHY. BUT WE'RE THERE AND YOU CAN TELL THE OUTPOURING OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SEE SOMETHING. AND THE COOL THING ABOUT THE WHY IS AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF THE WAY AND THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO MAKE THIS THEIR OWN AGAIN. REMEMBER, THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT WE ARE PACKAGING. OUR PRODUCT IS GOING TO BE THE ARTS AND HOW WE BRING IT IN IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO WHAT IS CULTURAL TOURISM? THESE THESE ARE THE PARTS THAT I THINK THAT WE'RE READY TO GO. THE TRAVEL INDUSTRY TERM DESCRIBING TRAVEL DIRECTED TOWARDS ARTS. WE HAVE THAT HERITAGE. WE KIND OF HAVE THAT. WE HAVE A HERITAGE. WE HAVE A HISTORY PART IN OUR STORM PARK RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES. YEAH, WE HAVE A BRAND NEW NATURE PRESERVE IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE.

THEORETICALLY, IN THE NEXT THREE, 4 OR 5 YEARS, WE'LL HAVE A CULTURAL DISTRICT AND A NATURE PRESERVE, AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE MARKETED AND MARKETED TOGETHER. SO AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HEARD MISS GOODEN MENTIONED. SO THIS IS NOT NEW. TOURISTS HAVE COME TO TEXAS FOR DECADES TO EXPERIENCE THESE THINGS, BUT IN A GOOD WAY OF CONNECTING VISITORS TO AUTHENTIC CULTURAL EXPERIENCES. WHAT IS AUTHENTIC? AUTHENTIC IS AUTHENTIC TO US. THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN DUNCANVILLE, THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE ART, AND THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE ART. THAT'S WHERE WE BECOME AUTHENTIC. THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS OUR VISION FOR. WELL, NOBODY AT THIS TABLE IS QUALIFIED TO DETERMINE WHAT THE CULTURAL DIRECTION OF THIS CITY IS. BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN MAKE IT EASY FOR EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME UP WITH THAT VISION AND EXPLORE IT IN THEIR OWN UNIQUE WAYS. THESE MULTICULTURAL AND MULTIGENERATIONAL VISITORS MAKE TRAVEL CHOICES RELATED TO PERFORMANCES AND ARTISTIC ACTIVITY, SO MULTICULTURAL, MULTIGENERATIONAL, HAPPENING IN OUR ART, HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN THE ARMSTRONG PARK IS LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 4TH OF JULY. THIS IS MY HOMETOWN. I GREW UP HERE. I REMEMBER THROWING UP CANDIES. I REMEMBER STANDING OUTSIDE THE CHURCH AND IT WAS A CHURCH AND IT WAS HOT, BUT I WOULD RUN OUT WHEN I WOULD GRAB THE CANDY. I REMEMBER THAT I TOOK MY NEPHEW THERE. GENERATIONAL. THIS IS THE STUFF THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO REMEMBER. THE STUFF IS ALREADY HAPPENING. WE'RE NOT STARTING

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OKAY, WE DON'T YET KNOW. WELL, LET'S GIVE SOME TIME. HISTORICAL OFFERINGS. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE THE ALAMO, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME HERITAGE THINGS. I THINK THAT WE CAN WE CAN LEAN INTO HOW TO SET THE BOUNDARIES. OKAY. CONTIGUOUS AND WALKABLE. THERE'S ONLY ONE PLACE IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE THAT'S CONTIGUOUS AND WALKABLE, THAT HAS ALL THESE OTHER ELEMENTS. THAT'S ARMSTRONG PARK ALONG THE TRAIL. THERE ARE OTHER CULTURAL ASSETS. THERE ARE THINGS THAT SURROUND IT THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE AND BE IMPROVED BY IT, THAT WE'D LOVE TO HAVE A ROLE IN IT, BUT IT'S NOT WALKABLE AND IT'S NOT CONTIGUOUS. THINGS THAT LOOK WALKABLE INTO CONTIGUOUS ON A MAP AREN'T NECESSARILY WHEN YOU'RE THERE IN SITU. IF YOU'RE AT THE EDGE OF THE PARK, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE FACING MAIN STATION, IT FEELS LIKE WE SHOULD JUST BE ABLE TO RUN OVER THERE.

BUT YOU CAN'T. THE PARK STARTS THERE. THERE'S GREEN SPACE. THERE'S STREETS WITHOUT SIDEWALKS NOW POTENTIALLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE A CULTURAL DISTRICT, THAT STUFF CAN BE IMPROVED. BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY IRRELEVANT TO US GETTING A CULTURAL DESIGNATION. THE ARTISTIC RESOURCES PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN THE LIVABILITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE CIT.

IT EVERY PRESIDENT. I NEVER SAY ANYTHING TO THIS COMMISSION THAT I CAN'T BACK UP WITH RECEIPTS.

IF YOU EVER LOOK AT ANYTHING THAT I'VE DISCUSSED WITH THIS GROUP AT RETHINK PLACE, I PUT EVERY CITATION FOR EVERY STUDY ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL AND CULTURAL, IN THERE. WHAT WE FIND IS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THE ARTS IMPROVE THE LIVABILITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY. THERE ARE TIMES WHERE I CAN TALK TO THIS COMMISSION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE SO IMPORTANT, AND IT FALLS ON MAYBE THEY MAYBE IT FALLS A LITTLE ON DEAF EARS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I TALK TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT'S LIKE I'M SINGING, I'M SINGING HALLELUJAH TO A CHOIR. EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO LEAN INTO THIS AND FIND THEIR OWN. WHY ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS IMPORTANT. THE DISTRICT MUST BE ACTIVELY ENGAGED FOR PROMOTION. Y'ALL. WE HAVE A CULTURAL DISTRICT. NOW WE JUST HAVE TO CALL IT. WE JUST HAVE TO TREAT IT. WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE BROCHURES TO COME TO THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. WE HAVE THE SECOND THAT WE CAN ENGAGE PARKS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, KEEP DUNCANVILLE BEAUTIFUL. THE CITY STAFF, WE NEED TO START TREATING IT LIKE A CULTURAL DISTRICT. INCLUDES OKAY, RESTAURANTS, VENUES, HOTELS, OTHER AMENITIES. WE'VE GOT THAT. RESTAURANTS. THIS IS GOING TO BE FUN TO LEAN INTO. I'M. SO SINCE WE HAVE A MEMBER FROM DCDC HERE TODAY, I WILL TELL YOU, I LOOK AT THE ARTS COMMISSION AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE ARTS. I BELIEVE THE I BELIEVE THAT THE CULTURAL DISTRICT IS A BRAND NEW TOOL TO CREATE OPPORTUNITY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. EVERYONE LIKE THE DESTINATION DUNCANVILLE PLAN THAT CAME OUT, EVERYTHING WAS ENTERTAINMENT, ARTS, RESTAURANT, ENTERTAINMENT, ARTS, RESTAURANTS AND VARIOUS DEGREES. WE CAN LEAN INTO THIS RESTAURANT COMPONENT. I BELIEVE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS WE CAN HAVE SOME COOL NEW RESTAURANTS TO SUPPORT THE RESTAURANTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, BUT THEY NEED TO BE WHAT THEY NEED TO BE WALKABLE TO THE CULTURAL DISTRICT AND WHAT IS WALKABILITY? OKAY, IT HAS A CENTER. ARMSTRONG PARK IS OUR CENTRAL PARK THAT IS THE CENTER OF OUR CITY. I WOULD I WOULD ARGUE THAT IS THAT IS EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE PLACE IN DUNCANVILLE. WE'RE JUST GIVING DUNCANVILLE NEW REASONS TO LOVE IT. I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT'S OUR CENTER. SO AND THIS IS ALSO TO REMEMBER OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT IS HOW WE DEFINE IT. THE TEXAS COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS DOESN'T TELL US THAT IT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN WAY. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE THREE THAT ARE IN DALLAS COUNTY. WE HAVE THE ARTS DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS. WE HAVE FAIR PARK, AND WE HAVE DEEP ELLUM. THEY'RE ALL CULTURAL DISTRICTS. THEY'RE COMPLETELY DISSIMILAR. PLANO HAS A HAS A CULTURAL DISTRICT. DENTON HAS A CULTURAL DISTRICT. PLANO IS AROUND THEIR MAIN STREET. DENTON IS AROUND THEIR TOWN SQUARE.

WINNSBORO, TEXAS 3500 PEOPLE HAVE A CULTURAL DISTRICT. WE CAN HAVE A CULTURAL DISTRICT IF WE MAKE IT AROUND THE PARK. I RECOMMEND THERE'S ENOUGH PEOPLE FOR BUSINESS AND ACTIVITY TO FLOURISH. ABSOLUTELY. MIXED INCOME AND MIXED USE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEARBY? ABSOLUTELY. PARKS AND PUBLIC SPACES TO GATHER AND PLAY BY DEFINITION, DESIGN FOR PEDESTRIANS USE ABSOLUTELY CLOSE TO SCHOOLS AND WORKPLACES? ABSOLUTELY. STREETS DESIGNED FOR BICYCLISTS, PEDESTRIANS AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES? ABSOLUTELY. PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. I PUT IN YELLOW BECAUSE WE DON'T WE HAVE STAR TRANSIT. SO WE KIND OF HAVE SOME PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT SOME GREAT WAYS TO BRING STAR TRANSIT IN THIS AND BE CREATIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE CALL THIS THE ARMSTRONG PARK CULTURAL DISTRIC. WHY? IT'S A PLACE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE CULTURAL

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IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE A CULTURAL DISTRICT. IT'S GOING TO FEEL LIKE A CULTURAL DISTRICT AND EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING THERE, INCLUDING THE SPLASH PADS, IS PART OF THIS. AND LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN, IF WE CALL IT A CULTURAL DISTRICT, IF WE USE IT AS A CULTURAL DISTRICT, IT WILL BE OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT. SO LOOK HERE, ARMSTRONG PARK, THIS IS THE BIG SIGN THAT'S OVER THERE BY WHEATLAND. IT'S BROKEN. KIDSVILLE HISTORICAL PARK. YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S GOT TO BE REPAIRED, IF WE JUST PUT CULTURAL DISTRICT THERE, WE'RE HALFWAY DONE. LITERALLY. WE CAN DECIDE WHAT OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT IS. WE HAVE ALL THE CITY COUNCIL WANTING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. WE HAVE THE CITY, THE CITY HALL WANTING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED. KINGSVILLE ISN'T EVEN THERE ANYMORE. IF WE CALL IT A CULTURAL DISTRICT, WE'VE GOT MOST OF THE WORK DONE. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE AND I'M GOING TO NEED ANGELA TO MAKE SURE WE DO THIS RIGHT. SO MISS GOODEN HAS ASKED THAT WE AGREE ON SOMETHING TONIGHT SO SHE CAN GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AND SAY, AND TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO SAY THIS IS WHAT THE ARTS COMMISSION IS RECOMMENDED. I WOULD LIKE FOR US, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT IT, THAT WE CALL IT THE ARMSTRONG PARK CULTURAL DISTRICT. IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE. IT'S A PUBLIC PARK. IT WILL ALWAYS BE A PARK. IT WILL ALWAYS BE A CULTURAL DISTRICT. THE BOUNDARY IS ARMSTRONG PARK. YES. WE HAVE CULTURAL ASSETS OUTSIDE OF IT. WE HAVE CULTURAL ASSETS CLOSE TO IT. WE'RE GOING TO GET REALLY CLEVER TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY ALL FIT TOGETHER, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE REALLY AMAZING PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP US DO THIS. LATER ON, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS. THIS IS REALLY IN DEPTH. THE CDMX IS A CULTURAL DISTRICT MANAGEMENT ENTITY ORGANIZATION. THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY SPECIFIC. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO APPLY BY THE RULES, FUNDING, POLICIES, METHODOLOGY, PRIORITIES, METRICS, ALL THE STUFF THAT THE CITY MANAGER WAS TALKING ABOUT IS TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEVELOP THAT. WHAT WORKS IN THE WORKS IS GOING TO WORK FOR THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO WORK OUTSIDE THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT, TRACKING AND FUNDING. SO ALL THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, HOW DO WE IF WE HAVE THIS BANK ACCOUNT, HOW DO WE SPEND THE BANK ACCOUNT? I LOOK AT MONEY AS A TOOL. HOT FUNDS IS ONE HANDLE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OTHER HANDLES. ALL OF THIS IS A TOOL TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY THERE IS AN EPICENTER OF ARTISTIC ACTIVITY AND PEOPLE BRINGING COMING TOGETHER FOR THIS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT ARTS ORGANIZATIONS NEED TO STAY HERE BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, ARTS COMMISSION HAS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN FRONT OF IT. BUT AT SOME POINT THAT'S GOT TO FLIP. THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE PATRON SUPPORT. THEY HAVE TO HAVE TICKET SUPPORT. THEY HAVE TO HAVE SPONSOR SUPPORT SO THAT THEY CAN BE SELF-SUSTAINING. ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE ARTS COMMISSION IS WE ARE VERY UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO BRING BRAND NEW FUNDERS INTO TOWN WHO WANT TO STAY IN TOWN AS WELL AS HELPING OUR LOCAL PATRONS FIGURE OUT NEW WAYS TO SUPPORT THE ARTS OFF CAMPUS DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS OUTSIDE THE ARTS COMMISSION, OUTSIDE THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO DEVELOP THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING NEW PEOPLE IN THOSE ARE NOT GOING TO BE SOLVED AT THIS TABLE. WE HAVE PARKS HERE, WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE, WE HAVE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THEATER. WE HAVE LOTS OF WAYS TO INVOLVE THAT STAKEHOLDER DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IS REGIONAL, STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERS. WHEN I WAS AT THE. THING THAT WAS AT THE NIGHT OUT, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, THERE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM YVONNE DAVIS'S OFFICE, AND HE'S ASKED THAT AS, AS WE DEVELOP, PARTICULARLY FOR STATE FUNDING, THAT WE STAY CONNECTED. AND THAT'S SOMETHING HONESTLY, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WE FOLKS IN THE REGION AND THE STATE WANT TO SEE THIS HERE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND IS FOLKS WANT TO SEE THIS. BRAND NEW DOLLARS CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE TO IT. SO THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE.

ANGELA, I NEED YOUR HELP. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO AGREE TONIGHT ON THE NAME AND THE

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AS OPPOSED TO WHEN I WAS GROWING UP WHERE THERE WAS NOTHING HAPPENING OVER THERE, IT WAS JUST NORTH LITTLE ROCK ACROSS THE BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, SO I I'M SORRY, BUT THOSE ARE MY FEELINGS. AND I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S SUCH A BIG DECISION TO MAKE THAT AGAIN WITH TIFFANY AND SARAH. NOT HERE. PERHAPS IT NEEDS MORE CONSIDERATION. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON DOCTOR BERRY.

THE BOUNDARY BEING ARMSTRONG PARK DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE LIBRARY AND HOPKINS. YEAH, YEAH, BECAUSE IT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND IT. OKAY. HAVE YOU EVER WALKED AROUND THE PARK? YEAH.

OKAY. SO IT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND IT. SO MY THINKING IS YEAH, I MEAN I CAN SEE, SEE THAT UNIT AS, AS A CULTURAL DISTRICT, I TEND TO FEEL IT DOESN'T REALLY OFFER THE RESTAURANT ASPECT OF IT. I MEAN, WALKABILITY IS IMPORTANT TO ME, JUST AS IMPORTANT AS RESTAURANTS. AND HOTELS. AND THERE'S CERTAINLY NO HOTEL IN THAT AREA AT THE, AT THE, AT THE MOMENT, THE WALKABILITY ISSUE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY IN TERMS OF IF WE IF WE WANTED TO EXTEND IT TO MAIN STATION TO INCLUDE THE THEATER AND, AND RESTAURANTS, THEN THE CITY COULD GET BEHIND US AND TRY TO CREATE THE WALKABILITY SCENARIO. ANYWA, JUST A COUPLE THOUGHTS ON THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? MINE IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS JUST A STARTING POINT. AND FROM THERE, ALL THE OTHER THINGS LIKE THE THEATER AND THE BEN FRANKLIN PLACE AND, AND MAIN STREET, THEY COULD BECOME PART OF IT, ALMOST LIKE HOW DEEP ELLUM AND THOSE AREAS WERE LATER AS YOUR CULTURAL DISTRICT, AS THE BEGINNING OF IT. BUT IT CAN EXPAND OVER TIME. WELL, HERE'S THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT IT. IT COULD. BUT WHY? THE WHY IS THE ANSWER TO THAT. SO IF THE CULTURAL DISTRICT IS THE PARK, AND FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT I THINK THAT IT STANDS THE BEST CHANCE OF GETTING THAT DESIGNATION, HOW DOES FROM FROM

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DOES THAT REMOVE. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. NO. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT I'M. THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING IS THIS IS JUST THE START TO GET THE DESIGNATION CORRECT. THAT'S IT. CORRECT. ALL THE OTHER THINGS WILL HAPPEN. OR COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN. THAT'S JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET THE FUNDING AND THE TO GET IT STARTED AND GET THE MONIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I SPOKE WITH AND I SPOKE WITH THE DEVELOPER WHO OWNS LANDS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. HE'S FOR THIS AND WE CAN BRING THEM TO, YOU KNOW, HE'LL COME TO MEETINGS, BUT AT NO TIME DID HE INDICATE THAT HE WANTED. SO WE CAN BRING HIM IN TO TALK ABOUT IT, THAT HE WANTED THOSE THOSE DESIGNATIONS ON HIS PROPERTY. SO MY SO DOCTOR PERRY, I'M NOT MEANING TO TAKE AWAY FROM YOUR COMMENT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE MORE LIKE FAIR PARK THAN WE ARE. LIKE, DEVELOP. BUT HERE'S THE THING. A CULTURAL DISTRICT, A CITY GETS TO CREATE ITS CULTURAL DISTRICT. AND SO THESE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE THINGS THAT INSPIRED YOU. AND IN LITTLE ROCK, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE WE REALLY HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. HOW DO YOU HAVE A PLAN OR SUGGESTION OR RECOMMENDATION, HOW WE CAN BE TREATING ANY OF THIS CAN BE HAPPENING RIGHT AWA.

BETTER THAN THE PARK. A LITTLE PUT ON THE SPOT, BUT. I JUST THINK IT TAKES SOME MORE CONSIDERATION REGARDING A NAME AND A BOUNDARY. I GUESS I NEVER WAS COMFORTABLE WITH A. A DESIGNATED BOUNDARY THAT'S PRETTY TIGHT. I LIKE THE LARGER. SO I DIDN'T MAKE THE I DIDN'T MAKE THOSE THINGS UP. NOW THE CITY CAN CREATE ANY KIND OF CULTURAL DISTRICT. IT WANTS TO GET THE DESIGNATION FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND THE REASON THAT WE DO THAT IS BECAUSE WE'LL BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING, THAT WE'RE NOT ELIGIBLE NOW, WHICH WILL BENEFIT THOSE PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS, IS THAT WE HAVE TO START TREATING LIKE A CULTURAL DISTRICT NOW. AND SO WHAT THE ARTS COMMISSION DOES WITH BRAND NEW MONEY, WITH BRAND NEW TOOLS, IS WE START TO PROGRAM ARTS IN THE PARK, WE START PUTTING MURALS, WE START CREATING THAT, WE START PUTTING IN SCULPTURES. ALL THESE THINGS THAT THE PARKS DIRECTOR TALKED ABOUT. WE CAN START DOING THAT RIGHT AWAY. IF IT'S SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS OR THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND FIGURE OUT WITH THEM, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT? AND RIGHT NOW IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. ALL THIS STUFF IS ALREADY HAPPENING. IS THERE NOT SOME WAY THAT WE CAN PIGGYBACK ONTO THE DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE DESIGNATION? THE CITY HAS ALREADY DESIGNATED DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE, WHICH INCLUDES MAIN STATION AND THE THEATER AND ALL OF THE THINGS ALONG MAIN STREET SO THAT WE HAVE THE ARMSTRONG PARK CULTURAL DISTRICT AND DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE. PERHAPS WE MARKET THEM TOGETHER. I UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S SAYING. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT HAS TO BE WALKABLE. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU DIDN'T COME UP WITH THESE RULES. THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE. BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE ANNE'S CONCERN, AND I SHARE SOME OF THOSE SAME CONCERNS. WE'VE GOT ROMA'S, WE'VE GOT EXISTING RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE ARTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO NOT EXCLUDE, BUT IF WE COULD BRING THEM INTO THE FOLD BY AND MAYBE IN SOME MARKETING, NOT IN THE APPLICATION, BUT IN THE WAY THAT WE MARKET IT AS DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE AND THE ARTS DISTRICT AND THE CULTURAL DISTRICT SO THAT WE PAIR THAT IN OUR LANGUAGE. SO THAT WE'RE NOT EXCLUDING. I UNDERSTAND, IN ORDER TO GET THE DESIGNATION, WE HAVE TO IT HAS TO BE WALKABLE.

IT HAS TO HAVE SPECIFIC BOUNDARIES. I UNDERSTAND WHY I'M NOT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE SENSITIVE.

AND, YOU KNOW, MY PATRONS ARE GOING TO ASK ME THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I CAN EXPLAIN TO THEM ALL

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AND IT'S THE WAY THAT YOU, YOU SHARE THAT INFORMATION. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE BOUNDARY AND THE WALKABLE IS THE MAIN THING. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE DON'T. YOU HAVE TO IF IT'S GOING TO BE YOU'VE GOT LONE STAR PLACE, YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE OTHER PLACES WHERE YOU'D HAVE TO GET THE BUSINESS OWNER TO BE ON BOARD AND WANT TO BE PART OF THAT, AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY LIVE AND WHAT THEIR BUSINESS INTEREST IS. BUT BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE BOTH OF THESE THINGS IF WE JUST PHRASE IT PROPERLY IN OUR MARKETING. AND I WANT TO AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT REALLY QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, RECALL, I SAID THAT AT SOME POINT IT STOPS BEING ABOUT THE ARTS COMMISSION. AND A CULTURAL DISTRICT IS A TOOL. SO I KNOW THAT THERE IS PLANS FOR MAIN STREET DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW. THE PLANS ARE THERE, BUT THE THINGS AREN'T. THERE. THIS NEEDS TO BE. YOU NOTICE EVERYTHING IN THERE FROM THE TEXAS COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS IS BEING USED AS A CULTURAL DISTRICT NOW, AND SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I'VE TALKED WITH, WITH WITH CITY STAFF AND THEY SEE OKAY, AND I'VE TALKED WITH LOCAL DEVELOPERS, OKAY. IF THERE'S THIS CENTRAL ACTIVITY, THIS TURNS INTO OUR CENTRAL PARK, THEN THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS IN DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE TO TAKE THAT ACTIVITY, TO TAKE THAT MOMENTUM AND, AND, AND MAKE A CORRIDOR. I DID NOT INVENT THE TERM CULTURAL CORRIDOR. SO THAT IS WHAT MUNICIPALITIES AND CITIES USE. IF THEY HAVE A CONCENTRATION OF CULTURAL ACTIVITY WITHIN A PLACE THAT'S NOT THAT'S THAT'S LIKE A PARK OR LIKE A ZOO, THEN HOW DO YOU BUILD THAT ACTIVITY AND MOVE IT OUT? SO, SO, DOCTOR PERRY, MY INTENTION IS NOT TO BE DISMISSIVE OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYIN.

MY CONCERN IS URGENCY. MY CONCERN IS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE PARK IS ALREADY A CULTURAL DISTRICT. WE'RE JUST NOT CALLING IT. WE NEED TO WALK AROUND OVER THERE AND SEE HOW CULTURED I FEEL. WELL, AND SO HERE'S THE OTHER PART. SO HERE'S THE OTHER PART TO THINK ABOUT. DOCTOR PERRY, WHAT THIS IS THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CULTURAL THINGS HAPPENING IN THE PARK. AND ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE ARTS COMMISSION IS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST IN IT AND MAKE IT BETTER. WE HAVE A CHANCE TO ELEVATE IT. SO YOU DON'T FIND CULTURAL ENLIGHTENMENT? SOME PEOPLE DO. THERE ARE CHILDREN WHO USE THAT PARK. THERE ARE CHILDREN WHO DON'T HAVE FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE. THERE ARE FAMILIES WHO ARE SINGLE PARENT FAMILIES. THE ONLY PLACE THEY CAN TAKE THEM IS OUR PARK. SO WHAT DO WE DO? WE PUT ARTS IN IT. WE MAKE IT FREE. WE MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE. SO YOU ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT FOLKS ARE GOING TO USE THIS PARK, USE OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT. THEY'RE NOT ALL GOING TO BE LIKE YOU. WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT EVERYBODY ALL AT ONCE IN THIS. AND SO AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS, MY PERSPECTIVE IS THIS IS ALREADY A CULTURAL DISTRICT. IT'S ALREADY BEING USED AS A CULTURAL DISTRICT BASED ON THE DEFINITION FROM THE TEXAS COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS. AND THEN WITH THAT, THE REDS, THE YELLOWS. THAT'S WHAT WE CAN LEAN INTO FOR THE NEXT 12 TO 24 MONTHS. AND THERE'S NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE BOTHERED BY THE FACT THAT THE ARTS COMMISSION IS TRYING TO GET RESTAURANTS OR WORK WITH DCDC, OR WORK WITH PARKS. HOW DO WE CREATE SOMETHING INTERESTING? AND THAT IS GOING TO BE THE PROCESS THAT WE SEE BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE IT. I'M WORRIED IF WE STYMIE THIS CONVERSATION, IF WE WAIT, WE HAVE A QUORUM. EVERYBODY READ THE AGENDA. I'M SORRY. THEY CAN'T BE HERE. BUT IF WE STOP AND WAIT TILL NOVEMBER, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A MEETING IN DECEMBER. WHAT ARE WE TELLING THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THIS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO WAIT. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT, OKAY, THIS IS NOT LIKE DEEP ELLUM. WE NEED TO MAKE IT MORE LIKE DEEP ELLUM. WE MAY NEVER BE LIKE DEEP ELLUM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS DUNCANVILLE.

WE HAVE FAMILIES THAT USE THE PARK, AND YOU CAN SEE IT DURING THE MEXICAN INDEPENDENCE DAY.

YOU CAN SEE IT DURING THE 4TH OF JULY. YOU CAN SEE IT. THAT'S HOW IT'S USED. AND I USED TO HAVE THIS EMPLOYER SAY, LET'S NOT LET'S NOT MAJOR IN THE MINORS. I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORRY ABOUT THINGS THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE RIGHT AWAY. WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH THE TOOL, WE HAVE THE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO US. AND AT ANY POINT IN THE NEXT 24 MONTHS, DCDC PARKS, CITY COUNCIL, KEEP DUNCANVILLE BEAUTIFUL. NEW FUNDERS ARE GOING TO COME IN HERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH NEW OPPORTUNITIES. REMEMBER THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER IN DALLAS USED TO BE CALLED THE DALLAS CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS. NOW IT'S AT&T. SO NEW ACTIVITY, NEW ENERGY IS GOING TO CHANGE THINGS. I HOPE THIS CHANGES DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE. BUT IT'S NOT THE CONVERSATION HERE. THIS IS THE CONVERSATION AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE BECAUSE MISS

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BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND ABOUT HUBS AND SPOKES ON WHEELS AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HUB AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE SPOKES. AND SO I FEEL THAT BASICALLY WHAT IT MEANS IS AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE THOSE POETRY KNOTS AND ALL THOSE COOL EVENTS IN THE PARK AND GET THOSE THERE. AND BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AT MAIN STATION RIGHT NOW, SO YOU CAN HAVE THOSE COOL EVENTS THERE, THE THEATER IS GOING TO LOOK AT MAYBE DOING SHAKESPEARE UNDER THE STARS LIKE WE USED TO DO 15 YEARS AGO. I MEAN, I THINK THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES. SO, SO YEAH, YEAH, I'M A LITTLE BUMMED. BUT I ALSO GET IT. AND I UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS SIDE OF IT. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT. AND I FEEL LIKE WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT HUB AND SPOKES AND I THINK THAT IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US THEN TO REALLY KNUCKLE DOWN AND GET THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES THAT WE WANT TO CREATE THAT ART IN THE PARK THAT WE FEEL IS IMPORTANT TO HAPPEN THERE, TO OFFER ALL OF THE DIVERSITY AND THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT WE WANT TO SEE HAPPEN. BUT I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. I JUST I JUST FEEL LIKE I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO AS RON, I THINK, FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO JUST GET IT DONE, SO TO SPEAK, IF WE'RE GOING TO GET THE DESIGNATION AND THE FUNDING, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME TO GET THE WALKABILITY FOR FURTHER DOWN, AND THEN WE WOULD LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE. AND THIS ORDER I SAW I SAW MARION, I SAW TIM. SO LET'S DO IT IN THAT ORDER. I LIKE WHAT SHE JUST SAID. GETTING THE THINGS THAT WE SEE THAT USED TO BE AT MAIN STREET TO GO IN THE PARK. SO THE POETRY NIGHTS, THE ART, YOU KNOW, FIRST FRIDAY TYPE THINGS, THE, THE, THE THEATER, GET, GET THE PEOPLE THAT WE WANT THAT ARE OUTSIDE IT TO COME DO THINGS IN IT. IF WE IF WE WANT SCHOOLS TO BE INVOLVED IN IT, THEN BRING THE SCHOOL TO DO AN ACTIVITY THERE OR, YOU KNOW, BE PART OF A ARTS THING. THAT WAY WE'RE BRINGING IN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE THAT WANT TO BE BE PART OF IT, BUT THEY'RE DOING IT IN THE PARK SO THAT WE GET THAT HUB AND SPOKES, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, MARION. WELL, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE NAME. JUST A SECOND. IT IS ARMSTRONG PARK. AND TO DO ANY KIND OF CHANGE WOULD MAKE IT INVISIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY. THE BRANDING, THE MARKETING, ALL OF THAT WOULD BE MASSIVE. AND YES, I YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A REASON FOR AGENDA, MAYBE THERE'S A SILVERY ANCHOR OF SOME KIND THERE. NO REASON. AND SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE IT COULDN'T CHANGE. BUT, YOU KNOW, DEEP DEEP ELLUM IS A REALLY, REALLY OLD NAME. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S MADE UP. I MEAN, IT'S GOT A LOT OF CULTURAL, HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. SO I THINK JUST THINK OF IT, MAYBE FOR NOW, THIS IS SIMPLE. IT'S DIRECT. IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. AND JUST IMAGINE SOME SILVERY THING IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU COULD CHANGE IT. SO YEAH, I, I LIKE WHAT AMY SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HUB AND SPOKES IN THE, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF HOW YOU WAY OUT, YOU KNOW WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO THE TEXAS FOLKS. IS IT WALKABILITY? IS IT IS IT RESTAURANTS? YOU KNOW, HOW DO THOSE FACTOR IN TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, WHICH ARE THEY ALL NEED TO BE THERE WHICH FITS IF RESTAURANTS AND EATERIES. I MEAN I KNOW THERE'S PLACES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR STRONG PARK, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. THEN IF BUT IF EATERIES ARE A BIG PART OF THAT, I SUPPOSE FOOD TRUCKS MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, FOR A WHILE, FOOD

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NOW, THAT PICTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, WHY NOT CALL IT A CULTURAL DISTRICT? SO WHAT I

[01:55:06]

GET ON THE FLOOR. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND WE HAVE A SECOND. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON IT. OKAY. WOULD YOU PLEASE WOULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT THE MOTION THAT WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION ON THE ON THE FLOOR IS TO NAME ARMSTRONG PARK CULTURAL DISTRICT WITH THE BOUNDARY OF ARMSTRONG PARK. AND WE HAVE A SECOND. YES. TAKE A VOTE. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION AS DESCRIBED IN THIS WAS ANGELA, RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? RAISE YOUR HAND. CARRIES. THANK YOU. PLEASE STILL BE MY FRIEND. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO BE YOUR FRIEND. YEAH. WHY WOULD I NOT? COUNCIL VOTES IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ALL THE TIME. AND WE'RE STILL TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER. AND SO? SO DOCTOR PERRY ASKED THIS ALL THE TIME. AND WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE ROOM RIGHT NOW. AND THEY AND FOLKS NEED TO REALIZE ARTS COMMISSION GETS MESSY. LOOK, TIM AND I AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT WE DID? WE HAD COFFEE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND I HUGGED HIM GOODBYE, AND EVERYTHING'S GREAT.

ARTS COMMISSION ALWAYS COMES TOGETHER, ALWAYS COMES TOGETHER. AND I THINK THAT'S THE BRIDGE WE BUILD IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DO IT. EVERYBODY CAN DO IT. ON THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON

[Items 12.a. - 12.b.]

[02:00:07]

[13. November and December meeting dates discussion]

NO, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT, I APOLOGIZE. IT IS THAT TUESDAY. SO IT IS A COUPLE DAYS BEFORE THANKSGIVING. SOMETIMES PEOPLE LEAVE TOWN. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS ON THERE FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THEN YES. WILL COME AND LOCK THE DOOR FOR CHRISTMAS EVE. SAID THAT YOU GUYS CAN HAVE A MEETING. I WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT MEETING. I'M. I CAN PROMISE YOU THIS IS NOT WHAT I PLANNED TO DO. SO IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SCHEDULE A DIFFERENT LIKE ANOTHER TUESDAY NIGHT FOR, LIKE, THE WEEK BEFORE OR SOMETHING. UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR TUESDAY NIGHTS CUTS.

THERE'S COUNCIL THE FIRST AND THIRD. I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER MEETING THAT HAPPENS ON THE SECOND TUESDAY. ALSO. SO IT'S JUST A CONFLICT OF DAYS. AND AS WE DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOVEMBER, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING DECEMBER. WHAT DOES COUNCIL DO WHEN THERE'S WHEN THERE'S A MEETING ON ON A HOLIDAY. AND YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THAT MEETING. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE IS EITHER CANCEL THE MEETING OR WE MOVE IT AND HAVE A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING. SO IF IT FELL ON A TUESDAY AND WE STILL NEEDED TO HAVE A MEETING, BUT THERE WAS NO OTHER TUESDAYS AVAILABLE, WE'VE HAD SOME ON A THURSDAY. SO LAST YEAR WE CANCELED OUR DECEMBER MEETING. DID YOU WANT TO TRY TO MOVE IT UP OR JUST CANCEL IT FOR DECEMBER? I THINK WE CANCELED SOMETHING. DO WE SO THESE ITEMS, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THEM OR CAN WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THEM? ANYBODY? THE MEETING. MEETING? THE MEETING DATE? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CANCEL THE CANCEL DECEMBER. TYPICALLY WHAT I SEE COUNCIL DO WHEN THEY'RE HAVING THEY JUST COME TO A CONSENSUS ON MEETING DATES. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COME AND HAVE OUR MEETING IN DECEMBER ON CHRISTMAS EVE? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO RESCHEDULE ON A DIFFERENT DAY IN DECEMBER? WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS ARE WE LOOKING AT AND HOW IMPORTANT WOULD IT BE TO NOT MISS A MONTH? COULD WE WAIT AND DECIDE DECEMBER? WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE NOVEMBER MEETING? YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT NOVEMBER LOOKS LIKE AND THEN DECIDE ON AND THEN DECIDE.

WELL, AGAIN, IT JUST DEPENDS ON IF THERE'S SOME. I MEAN, LIKE TONIGHT WE REALLY NEEDED TO DO THE NAME AND THE BOUNDARY. IS THERE GOING TO BE SOMETHING IN DECEMBER THAT WE REALLY NEED TO WE DON'T KNOW. DO WE'LL KNOW. WE'LL KNOW IN NOVEMBER. IS IT OKAY IF WE KEEP THE NOVEMBER MEETING. SO IT'S TUESDAY AND THANKSGIVING IS A THURSDAY. Y'ALL COOL KEEPING ON TUESDAY I WON'T BE HERE, BUT. AND I CAN'T JOIN BY ZOOM. ACTUALLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE OKAY. 24 I MEAN, THE 20, THE 26TH I WON'T BE HERE. THE 26TH. THAT'S NOVEMBER. WILL WE BE? WE COULD BE ABOUT 26. I THINK. I CAN'T COMMIT RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, SO WE CAN WAIT AND SEE IF WE HAVE A QUORUM. SO YEAH. SO LET'S KEEP NOVEMBER ON THE BOOKS. AND IF WE HAVE A QUORUM WE CAN MEET. IF WE DON'T, SHOULD WE MOVE NOVEMBER? NOVEMBER? WOULD Y'ALL RATHER MOVE IT? WHAT ABOUT THE THURSDAY NIGHT BEFORE? THE WEEK BEFORE? I'LL HAVE A SHOW. OH, SO WE'LL SO WE'LL HAVE IT AT THE THEATER.

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. CAN WE HAVE IT ON A WEDNESDAY OR ON WEDNESDAY? CAN YOU STAY WITH

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AND, AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE BASED ON OUR MEETING IN NOVEMBER, WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR DECEMBER. YES.

IS THAT CONSENSUS I SEE. OKAY. ANY MORE DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT? I THINK THAT BUSINESS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.