[1. Call to Order]
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          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IT IS 702 IN THE EVENING, AND I HEREBY CALL TO ORDER THE DUNCANVILLE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SPECIAL CALL MEETING. TODAY IS MONDAY AGAIN, JUNE 3RD, 2024. 
          AND IT IS 702 IN THE EVENING, I RECOGNIZE A QUORUM. AND SEEING A QUORUM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET 
          [2. Receive Public Comments on items not listed on the agenda, limit 2- minutes per individual speaker.]
AND GET STARTED. SO WE'LL MOVE DIRECTLY INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO, RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS DESIRING TO BE HEARD ON AN AGENDA ITEM THAT'S NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? THERE ARE SOME AGENDAS POSTED IN THE, SOME AGENDAS PROVIDED. COPIES OF AGENDAS ARE IN IN THE REAR OF THE ROOM. ALL RIGHT. I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON AN AGENDA ITEM THAT'S ON AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IS, I RECOGNIZE YOU FROM FROM FROM THE AUDIENCE, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR YOU, MADAM, IS, IS THERE SOMEONE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON AN AGENDA ITEM THAT'S NOT ON AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? BECAUSE WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR. IS THERE AN ITEM NUMBER FIVE? ARE THERE ANY OTHER? IF YOU WILL PLEASE COME DOWN TO THE PODIUM AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN ADDRESS THE PARTICULARS OF WHAT YOU'RE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST TONIGHT. MY NAME IS SHIRLEY FLYNN, AND I LIVE AT 140 GREYSTONE PLACE AND THE ITEM THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS IS THE IS THE EVENT CENTER THAT'S ABOUT TO BE BUILT OR PROPOSED TO BE BUILT AT AT THE CORNER OF DANIEL DALE AND MAIN STREET. OKAY. SO I WAS, TRYING TO GET INFORMATION ON IT AS WELL AS OPPOSE IT BECAUSE OF SEVERAL THINGS. SO PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DON'T WANT IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. ONE REASON IS BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT IT WILL, ACCUMULATE, THE NOISE THAT IT WILL ACCUMULATE, AS WELL AS THE TAXES. I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PAY ADDITIONAL TAXES FOR AN EVENT CENTER THAT IS NOT NEEDED. THAT WILL NOT ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS FLYNN, MISS FLYNN, WE DO RECORD YOUR, YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR VIEWS, AS IT RELATES TO THE EVENT CENTER ON THE CORNER OF MAIN AND DANIEL DALE, IT'S NOT, OF COURSE, AN AGENDA ITEM THAT'S HERE BEFORE US TONIGHT. WE PREVIOUSLY HEARD THAT ITEM, AND THIS BODY MADE A RECOMMENDATION AND HAS SENT THAT ON TO CITY COUNCIL. AND I BELIEVE THAT MAY BE PENDING A ZONING OR I'M NOT SURE OF WHAT ITS STATUS WITH COUNCIL, BUT WE DO RECOGNIZE YOUR YOUR COMMENTS REGARDING THE TRAFFIC, THE NOISE AND THE ADDITIONAL TAXES AS THE BASIS OF YOUR OPPOSITION TO THE EVENT CENTER THAT, AS YOU REFERENCED, AT THE CORNER OF MAIN AND DANIEL DALE. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE HERE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? ALL 
          [3. Approve minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission special meeting on April 29, 2024.]
RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE, WE WILL NOW, ENTERTAIN, WE'LL MOVE INTO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON APRIL 29TH OF 2024. COLLEAGUES ENTERTAIN, A, I BELIEVE WE RECEIVED A DRAFT COPY OF THOSE MINUTES THAT WERE CIRCULATED. AND SO, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY, IS THERE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE? WELL, I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR RODRIGUEZ, IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER NGUYEN, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO ADOPT THE AMEND THE MINUTES AS CIRCULATED FOR THE P AND Z SPECIAL MEETING ON APRIL 29TH, 2024. ALL ANY COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED ? WE DO HAVE THE VOTING BOARD TONIGHT, WE HAVE A VOTE TO USE IT. HEY LYNETTE. SO GOOD TO SEE YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO ALL THOSE SO PLEASE VOTE YES. ALL RIGHT. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THREE, FIVE. VOTING IN FAVOR, WE WILL APPROVE THE MINUTES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, AND, CHAIR, IF I MAY, RIGHT BEFORE I GET INTO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THE COMMISSION ACTUALLY TABLED THE 
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EVENT CENTER AT 119, DANIEL DALE AT ITS LAST MEETING AND ASKED STAFF TO CONDUCT FURTHER RESEARCH WITH THE APPLICANT, AS WELL AS GET FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS, CLOSE TO IT. AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. WE ARE STILL WORKING ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'VE ASKED FROM THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE BRING IT BACK TO THIS BOARD. IT WON'T BE AS A PUBLIC HEARING. YOU CAN JUST CONTINUE AND MAKE YOUR DECISION. BUT, WE WILL BE BRINGING IT BACK AT A LATER DATE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT, REMINDER AND SO ON. THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, IT HAS NOT YET COME. SO I WILL DULY TAKE NOTE OF MISS FLYNN'S COMMENTS AS IT RELATES TO HER OPPOSITION, AS IT AS IT WILL COME BACK TO US AT SOME POINT. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT 
          [4. Conduct a public hearing (2024-14) and consider approving the request of Grace Hebert Curtis Architects, applicant, representing UME Preparatory Academy, owner, for a Specific Use Permit to allow for the use of “Temporary Education Use” on Doris Heights, Block C, Lots 1-12, Block E, Lots 1-4, and Abandoned Street, ACS 4.0241, more commonly known as 323 West Wheatland Road, in the City of Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]
CLARIFICATION. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR OUR PUBLIC SPEAKER. ALL RIGHT. SO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING. 24 2024 DASH 14 AND CONSIDER APPROVING THE REQUEST OF GRACE ABREU CURTIS ARCHITECTS, APPLICANT REPRESENTING UMMI PREPARATORY ACADEMY OWNER FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE USE OF TEMPORARY EDUCATION USE ON DORRIS HEIGHTS BLOCK C LOTS ONE THROUGH 12, BLOCK E LOTS ONE THROUGH FOUR AND ABANDONED STREET ACES 4.0241. MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 323 WEST WHEATLAND ROAD IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. THE REQUEST IS TO OBTAIN A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE USE OF TEMPORARY EDUCATION FACILITY ON THE PROPERTY, THIS IS A SCHOOL PRIMARY OR SECONDARY. IT WILL ACTUALLY BE A SCHOOL FOR SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADERS. APPROXIMATELY 260, SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADERS WOULD BE ATTENDING HERE. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS FOR PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC, AND THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SEVEN. 
          THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY AND YOU CAN SEE WHEATLAND ON TO THE SOUTH, SANTA FE TO THE WEST AND NORTHWEST. PEACH STREET TO THE EAST. AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY OUTLINED ON THE ZONING MAP. AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE FROM MY HAND-DRAWN SQUIGGLE THERE THAT THERE ARE LOTS. 243 239, 235, 231 AND 227 INCLUDED IN THIS. THE REASONING FOR THAT IS BECAUSE AND YOU'LL SEE IT ON A TRAFFIC MAP HERE IN JUST A SECOND. THOSE LOTS ARE ACTUALLY THE PARKING LOT THAT FRONT WHEATLAND AND PEACH STREET THAT IS CURRENTLY USED BY THE CHURCH. IT'S OWNED BY THE CHURCH , IT JUST HAS NOT BEEN REPLATTED INTO ONE LOT. BUT THOSE ARE THOSE LOTS ARE ACTUALLY THE PARKING LOT THERE THAT WILL BE UTILIZED FOR THE TRAFFIC FLOW FOR THIS TEMPORARY SCHOOL. AS YOU'LL SEE IN JUST A SECOND. THIS IS THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC FLOW, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE ON THAT. AND WHEN I WAS MAKING THIS, I DIDN'T HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE. BUT THE LOT TO THE LOWER RIGHT HAND PART OF THE SCREEN IS THE PARKING LOT THAT YOU SEE THAT FRONTS WHEATLAND AND FRONTS PEACH STREET AND IN THIS DRAWING, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY THE ENTRANCE TO THE LOT WOULD BE FROM WHEATLAND ROAD, NOT ON THE PEACH STREET SIDE. ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THE ENTRANCE WOULD BE FROM WHEATLAND ROAD UP INTO THE PARKING LOT. THEY WOULD GO TWO CARS ON EACH OF THOSE SECTIONS OF THE PARKING LOT GOING TOWARD PEACH STREET WOULD COME TO A NECK AT THE END. AT THE EXIT OUT ONTO PEACH STREET. AND IN DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE, COMPANY EARLIER, WHAT YOU WILL ACTUALLY SEE THAT ISN'T REALLY SHOWN THERE. THE INTENDED PLAN IS FOR THE CARS TO EXIT OUT OF THE PARKING LOT ONTO PEACH STREET, GO OVER TO THE PARKING SPACES RIGHT NEXT TO THE CHURCH, AND ACTUALLY QUEUE PARALLEL TO THE CHURCH. ALONG THOSE PARKING SPACES. SO CURRENTLY THE PARKING SPACES RUN PERPENDICULAR TO THE CHURCH AND PEOPLE CAN PARK IN THOSE PARKING SPACES OFF OF PEACH STREET, PERPENDICULAR TO THE CHURCH. THIS PLAN WOULD CALL FOR NOBODY BEING ABLE TO PARK THERE DURING DROP OFF AND PICK UP, AND THE CARS WOULD ACTUALLY QUEUE ALONG THOSE PARKING SPACES RUNNING PARALLEL TO THE CHURCH. WE DID SEND OUT 47 MAILINGS, WE DID NOT GET ANY IN FAVOR OR 
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OPPOSITION. ANY REPLIES BACK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION? ONE OF THE THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THIS IS THAT THE 200FT RADIUS ONLY EXTEND FROM THE PROPERTY OF THE CHURCH, I NOTICED THIS ON FRIDAY WHEN I WAS REVIEWING. IT DOES NOT ACTUALLY INCLUDE THE REMAINDER OF THE PARKING LOT, SO WE DID NOT SEND EXTRA NOTICES FROM THAT POINT. AT THE EDGE OF THE PARKING LOT, AND THIS PARKING LOT WILL BE USED IN THE APPLICATION, IN THE SOUP FOR THE SCHOOL. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE MISSED AS STAFF, AND I'D PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE THE NOTICES FROM THE EDGES OF THAT PARKING LOT. SPECIFIC USE CONSIDERATION IS PROPOSED. USE IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT LAND USE AND ZONING. PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH ARCHITECTURE AND CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. MAY PROMOTE INNOVATIVE USE OF MODERN DEVELOPMENT CONCEPTS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY. ENHANCEMENT OR IMPROVEMENT BEYOND THE MINIMUM STANDARDS NOT DETRIMENTAL TO THE GENERAL HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. USE WOULD STABILIZE AND IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUES. WOULD PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE CITY'S ATTRACTIVENESS, AND WOULD STRENGTHEN AND HELP DIVERSIFY THE ECONOMY OF THE CITY. TIME PERIOD. YOU CAN BE ISSUED FOR AN UNLIMITED OR LIMITED TIME IN SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANTS, THEY ARE INTENDING TO ONLY NEED THIS USE THROUGH THE END OF THE FALL SEMESTER, SO THEY WOULD GO ROUGHLY FROM AUGUST UNTIL DECEMBER OF 2024. AND SO THAT TIMELINE IS SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUT A TIME LIMIT ON THE EXPIRATION OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO APPROVE IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT, COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? I SEE, COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS, THE EXPLANATION OF THE PARKING WASN'T QUITE CLEAR. CAN YOU GO TO, SHOW THE MAP? OKAY. 
          YES. THIS ONE. SO WHEN YOU WERE MENTIONING THE QUEUE, WERE THERE. IS THAT ON THIS MAP? SO THE ENTRANCE IS ACTUALLY NOT ON THIS MAP, BUT WHEN YOU COME TO, THIS AERIAL VIEW HERE, IF YOU TRAVEL ALONG WHEATLAND, HEADING WEST, THE EASTERNMOST SECTION OF THE PARKING LOT, THERE'S AN ENTRANCE ON WHEATLAND THAT IT WILL BE THE ENTRANCE. THEY WILL TURN INTO THE PARKING LOT AND THEN THEY WILL BRANCH OFF THERE. ACTUALLY OH, MY MOUSE WORKS. I MAY CAN ACTUALLY DO THIS. SO THEY WILL THEY WILL ENTER HERE. THERE IS A LINE HERE THAT IS WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO CARS. 
          THERE'S ALSO A LINE HERE THAT IS WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO CARS. AND SO THEY WILL GO TWO BY TWO TO HERE AND TWO BY TWO TO HERE. THEY WILL COME TO A KIND OF A BOTTLENECK RIGHT HERE. BUT IT WILL BE A BOTTLENECK IN THE PARKING LOT. AND THEN THEN IDEALLY WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE IS A GUARD OR SOMETHING AT THIS LOCATION. RIGHT HERE THAT WOULD ALLOW, I THINK, IN DISCUSSING THIS WITH THE APPLICANT, THEY WOULD HAVE 7 TO 8 CARS AT A TIME THAT THEY WOULD WAVE THROUGH, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY PARKING SPACES ALONG THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING. NOW, THE DIRECTION OF THE PARKING GOES TOWARD THE BUILDING, BUT THE CARS WOULD BE ABLE TO PULL OVER TO THE PARKING SPACES AND RUN PARALLEL TO THE BUILDING, DROPPING OFF ALONG THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING HERE. AND THEY COULD THEY HAVE THE ABILITY IF THEY NEEDED TO, TO PUT SOME CONES AT THE PARKING SPACES TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM TRYING TO PARK IN THEM DURING DROP OFF AND PICK UP. I'M GOING TO JUMP IN AND ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS, WHAT IS SO IN TERMS OF A TMP OR A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN OR ANY TYPE OF CIRCULATION, TRAFFIC CIRCULATION, WHAT BINDS THE APPLICANT TO SUCH A CIRCULATION 
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PATTERN? THERE IS CURRENTLY NOTHING THAT BINDS THE APPLICANT TO A TRAFFIC CIRCULATION PATTERN. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY THEY ACTUALLY CAME TO THE CITY WITH A DIFFERENT PLAN THAT THAT BROUGHT THEM ENTERING FROM THE NORTH PART OF THE PARKING LOT HERE, TRAVELING ALONG HERE, MAKING A CIRCLE AND COMING BACK, BECAUSE THEY WERE ORIGINALLY GOING TO CIRCULATE ON SANTA FE IN THE MAIN RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. SO SO THERE'S SO THIS IS JUST WHAT THEY HAVE AGREED TO OR WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DISCUSSED BY WAY OF A CIRCULATION ACTION. YES, SIR. ON TO PEACH, I GUESS IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING TWO OFF OF BECAUSE I'M FAMILIAR WITH HOW YOU CAN INGRESS OFF WHEATLAND MORE EASILY WESTBOUND, BUT YOU CAN'T ALSO EASTBOUND, I BELIEVE MAKE A LEFT ONTO THAT THAT THAT PARKING. AND SO I ASSUME THAT ALL THE TRAFFIC WOULD THEN ENTER INTO THAT POINT AND THEN ALL CIRCULATE NORTHBOUND ONTO PEACH BACK TO SANTA FE, CORRECT. NORTH OR SOUTH FROM FROM FROM THERE. 
          SO, SO THAT'S MY THAT WAS MY INITIAL QUESTION ABOUT ABOUT A TMP. MY OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT PREVENTS THIS STACKING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ONTO WHEATLAND? I KNOW WE CAN SAY THAT IT'S ILLEGAL AND THERE SHOULD BE NO STACKING IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, BUT WHAT IS TO PREVENT THAT BASED ON THE FACE OF THIS APPLICATION, PARTICULARLY SEEING NO TMP CORRECT. AND AND, THERE IS ACTUALLY NOTHING THAT WOULD STOP THEM OTHER THAN YOU SHOULD NOT THE APPLICANTS STATE THAT THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN WHO WOULD BE COMING TO SCHOOL, 260, WITH MULTIPLE CHILDREN THAT DO COME VIA CARPOOL, WILL, WOULD CREATE A SCENARIO IN WHICH THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE CARS SAFELY INTO THE PARKING LOT AND NOT QUEUING ON WHEATLAND. OKAY. BUT I, I WILL SAY THAT IN TALKING WITH THE APPLICANT, I LEARNED THAT PREVIOUSLY STAFF HAD INDICATED TO THEM THAT A TMP WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS SUB APPROVAL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT AS TO WHY STAFF WOULD HAVE INDICATED THAT THERE WOULD NOT NEED A TMP FOR SUCH A USE? I DO NOT OKAY. IS THERE ANY INSIGHT THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE THIS COMMISSION AS TO WHY THIS USE IS NEEDED ONLY THROUGH, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CURRENTLY EXIST AS AN EDUCATION? I MEAN, THIS IS A BRAND NEW SUV, SO CAN YOU OFFER THIS BODY ANY INSIGHT AS TO WHY THE USE WOULD? ONLY WILL IS ONLY NEEDED THROUGH THE DECEMBER OR, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE END OF THE FALL SEMESTER OF 2024? I CAN THIS IS FOR PREPARATORY ACADEMY. THEY ARE CURRENTLY BUILDING A NEW FACILITY ON SPUR 408, AND THEY THEY RAN INTO SOME CONSTRUCTION PROBLEMS WHILE THEY WERE FINISHING OUT THE BUILDING. AND IT IS DELAYED. THE OPENING OF THAT NEW FACILITY. AND SO THE DELAY IN THAT OPENING PUSHES THEM INTO THE SCHOOL YEAR WITHOUT A FACILITY TO HOUSE THEIR STUDENTS AND TO CONDUCT SCHOOL. AND SO THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A, POTENTIAL PLACE TO HOUSE THEIR CHILDREN AND CONDUCT SCHOOL. AND THIS IS THE SPOT THEY CHOSE. THAT IS WHY THEY DO NOT ANTICIPATE NEEDING IT PAST NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU FOR THAT, FOR THAT INSIGHT, COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. COLUMBUS, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING WHAT THE PLAN FOR THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS BEING THAT THESE ARE MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS, WE ALSO KNOW THAT THEY LIKE TO WALK AND, AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS FOLLOW WHATEVER THE ADULTS HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY SHOULD DO. SO SO ARE THERE PLANS OR HAVE THERE BEEN DISCUSSIONS AS FAR AS JUST, STUDENTS WHO MAY BE WALKING, PARENTS WHO MAY NOT BE IN THE LINE AND MAY BE PARKING FURTHER AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL BECAUSE THAT'S A HABIT AS WELL. HAVE THERE BEEN ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS BEYOND THE TRAFFIC PATTERN? THERE WAS A DISCUSSION TODAY WITH THE APPLICANT, AND THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY HERE. 
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SO WHEN YOU GET TO THE PUBLIC HEARING POINT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT FROM THEM AS WELL. 
          BUT BUT, THE DISCUSSION THAT I HAD TODAY, I LEARNED THAT FOR THE MOST PART THERE, WHERE THEIR SCHOOLS ARE LOCATED, THEIR FAMILIES ARE USED TO COMMUTING TO SCHOOL. AND SO THE THEY'VE ACTUALLY SURVEYED MOST OF THE PARENTS WHO WOULD BE COMING HERE, AND THEY'VE ONLY FOUND ONE FAMILY SO FAR THAT SAYS THAT THEY LIVE CLOSE ENOUGH THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY EVEN CONSIDER WALKING TO THE SCHOOL. SO, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE FULL EXTENT OF HOW FAR THEY'VE SURVEYED OUT AND IF THAT WOULD REMAIN TRUE, ONCE THIS BECAME A SCHOOL TEMPORARILY. ALL RIGHT, MR. KEITH, MY ONE QUESTION. MY ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR STAFF IS FROM LOT TWO, TWO, SEVEN. ARE YOU ALL SATISFIED THAT YOU'VE MET YOUR NOTICE REQUIREMENTS? PERSONALLY, I AM NOT SO. SO. SO IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY PRUDENCE IN CONCERN OFFERING, DELAYING THIS ITEM TO ALLOW FOR SUFFICIENT NOTICING? THERE IS SOME PRUDENCE. THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS NEEDING TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DID CALL A SPECIAL MEETING FOR TONIGHT IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CONVERSATIONS BY THE APPLICANT STARTED IN AROUND FEBRUARY WITH TRYING TO GET THIS DONE. THERE ARE SPRINKLER REQUIREMENTS IN THE BUILDING THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO GO INTO, AND SO DELAYING APPROVAL UNTIL LIKELY JULY AND MID-JULY. WE WOULD PROBABLY BE WHEN IT WOULD COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL IF WE WERE TO HOLD OFF ON MAKING A DECISION AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING LEVEL. THAT MIGHT NOT GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO GET THEIR TEMPORARY CO AND BE ABLE TO MOVE IN. BUT IF WE DID NOT NOTICE PROPERLY, WE DO NEED TO ABIDE BY STATE LAW AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE DONE THE CORRECT NOTICES. AND I'M MORE I'M MORE PERSUADED BY COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW THAT I AM WITH AN APPLICANT MEETING. ANY TYPE OF SPRINKLER REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER OTHER REQUIREMENTS, ANTICIPATING SUCH A CO, I ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERNS AND I'LL HOLD THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE TIME AROUND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT. WE AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH INTO COMMENTARY, HAVING NOT HEARD THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INFLUX OF SOME 260, STUDENTS TO THE HARD CORNER OF SANTA FE AND WHEATLAND, WHICH WAS GOING TO BEHAVE FIVE DAYS A WEEK. AND THAT TYPE OF INFLUX IS GOING TO BEHAVE VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN CHURCH SERVICE ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE NOTICE AND WHERE WE WERE FROM, THAT FROM A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT, WHICH I'M QUITE SENSITIVE TO COLLEAGUES, COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS, ONE MORE QUESTION, I KNOW THAT I BELIEVE THERE'S A MIDDLE SCHOOL, BYRD MIDDLE SCHOOL, MAYBE NOT TOO FAR FROM FROM THIS LOCATION, WHICH ALSO HAS TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND KIDS WALKING HAT. WHAT CONSIDERATION WAS GIVEN FOR THE IMPACT OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT ARE AROUND IN THE TRAFFIC. WHAT DISCUSSION? WHAT, AGAIN, I'M NOT REALLY SURE OF THAT. THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. COMMISSIONER O'BRIEN, AS FAR AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT SOME KIDS MIGHT BE WALKING AND THEN THE PARENTS AS FAR AS DROPPING THE KIDS OFF AND, COMMUTING, THEY'RE CARPOOLING AND DRIVING. WILL THERE BE SCHOOL BUSSES INVOLVED AS WELL? THAT. I DO NOT KNOW, COMMISSIONER O'BRIEN. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT HAVING SOME FAMILIAR WITH THIS PARTICULAR USE, IN DALLAS AND ACTUALLY ZONING CASES IN DALLAS, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE A SCHOOL BUS AS THE PRIMARY AS MOST AS MOST, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS DO. THEY DON'T HAVE A SCHOOL BUS. OPERATIONALLY, MOST OF THE STUDENTS ARE ARRIVING BY CAR, WHICH, IS THE KIND OF THE SOURCE OF MY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, BECAUSE AGAIN, A LOT OF TIMES BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT. AND 
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THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC THAT DEVIATE FROM THE PATTERN, ALTHOUGH IT IS THE RECOMMENDED PATTERN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE OTHER PARENTS CAN ACCESS OTHER PLACES TO GET THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL QUICKER. SO FOLLOWING THAT PATTERN AND SAYING, THIS IS THE PATTERN THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW IF THAT'S NOT IN PLACE, AND I CAN SEE THAT IMPACTING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. ALL RIGHT. 
          SEEING NONE. THANK YOU. SO VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE HERE, WANTING TO SPEAK, FOR THIS PARTICULAR ZONING APPLICATION, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT IS HERE. SO IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND HANG TIGHT, IF WE HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU OR ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO PRESENT. BUT ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK FOR THIS APPLICATION, IF YOU WOULD COME DOWN AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND YOU CAN BEGIN YOUR TWO MINUTE COMMENTS IF YOU SO CHOOSE. YES KAYLA SMITH, I'M THE SUPERINTENDENT OF, PREPARATORY ACADEMY. WE DO HAVE AN ELEMENTARY CAMPUS IN DUNCANVILLE ALREADY, WE ARE BUILDING A NEW JUNIOR HIGH BUILDING ON OUR DALLAS CAMPUS SITE THAT WE GOT HELD UP WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE DELAYED OPENING. SO WE'RE REALLY ONLY TRYING TO FIND A PLACE FOR OUR STUDENTS FOR THREE MONTHS, WE HAVE WE HAVE WORKED WITH TRAFFIC A LOT. ONE THING THAT IS GOING TO HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC PATTERN IS THAT PART OF WHO WE ARE AT, PREPARATORY ACADEMY IS A SHORTENED SCHOOL DAY TO GIVE TIME BACK TO PARENTS. SO OUR DISMISSAL TIME IS 150 IN THE AFTERNOON. SO THOSE FAMILIES ARE GOING TO PICK UP STARTING AT 150. WE WILL FINISH WITH ONLY 250 60 STUDENTS IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES. SO WE WILL BE FINISHED WITH CAROLINE WELL BEFORE 220, WHICH SHOULD NOT IMPACT ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC WITH OTHER SCHOOLS, DROP OFF IN THE MORNING. WE'LL START AT 8 A.M. WILL BE DONE USUALLY MOST OF OUR PARENTS ARE GOING TO ARRIVE ABOUT 815 BECAUSE THE TARDY BELL RINGS AT 830. IT'S A REALLY SHORT. IT MOVES FAST. WE'RE I HAVE TWO CAMPUSES THAT ARE THIS SIZE. WE CAN FINISH THAT CAR LINE IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES. SO IT'S NOT WHAT YOU THINK OF TRADITIONALLY AS A LARGE SCHOOL WITH LOTS OF TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE, OUR FAMILIES CARPOOL. THEY'RE USED TO TRAVELING TOGETHER BECAUSE WE DRAW STUDENTS FROM ALL OVER THE METROPLEX. SO THEY'RE USED TO THIS TYPE OF CAR LINE, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY PROMISE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS TO YOU, BUT WE ARE USED TO HANDLING TRAFFIC. I WILL HAVE A TRAFFIC OFFICER THERE EVERY DAY, FULL TIME, PLUS ABOUT 8 TO 10 PEOPLE OUT DOING CAR LINE DUTY. THAT WILL BE MOVING THOSE CARS. AND I WILL MAKE A PROMISE TO YOU THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO STACK ON THE ROAD, WE JUST DO THIS. IT'S WE'RE WE'RE GOOD AT IT. DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF, DAVID? THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. 
          I'M DAVID ABBOTT WITH GRACE ABBOTT CURTIS ARCHITECTS. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE NOTICES QUICKLY, BECAUSE THE ONLY CHANGE IN USE IS FOR WHAT'S CURRENTLY THE ADULT EDUCATION BUILDING ON CAMPUS, WE'RE CHANGING THE USE, OBVIOUSLY, TO EDUCATION. THE SCHOOL IS INVESTING, CLOSE TO A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS IN GETTING THAT UP TO THE CURRENT CODE JUST FOR THE 90 DAYS THAT THEY NEED TO UTILIZE IT. SO THEY'RE REALLY INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO A CHURCH THAT SUPPORTS THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, AND IF THIS IS DEFERRED, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES, WITH GETTING OUR OCCUPANCY AND TIME FOR SCHOOL TO START. BUT, MY REQUEST WOULD BE THAT IF YOU DO DEFER CIRCULATION OFF SITE, THAT A CONTINGENT PLAN WITH CIRCULATION ON SITE, WE CAN GET THE SAME STACKING WITH THE ORIGINALLY PLANNED ORIGINAL PLAN WE SUBMITTED, STACKING WITHIN THE PARKING LOT, ROUGHLY 1500 LINEAR FEET. THAT BE APPROVED WITH THAT CIRCULATION PLAN. AND WE WOULD STILL PURSUE THE PREFERRED PLAN OF STACKING OFF SITE, FOR ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING. BUT WITH UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY MAY NOT GET APPROVED UNTIL MID-JULY, THAT WOULD ALLOW THE SCHOOL TO INVEST THE MONEY, KNOWING THAT THERE THEY'RE DOING IT, KNOWING THEY CAN USE A SCHOOL, USE IT AS A SCHOOL, AND STILL PURSUE THE PREFERRED METHOD OF CIRCULATION BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, GIVEN SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD WITH THE APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I THINK I SEE ANOTHER SPEAKER, IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME. GOOD EVENING. 
          COMMISSION. MY NAME IS BRANDON BARKER. I SERVE AS THE PASTOR OF DISCIPLESHIP AND ADMINISTRATION AT DALLAS, DUNCANVILLE. FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH. I ACTUALLY GET USED TO WORK WITH, PREP AND ITS FOUNDING YEARS. WE ACTUALLY GOT TO WORK WITH DUNCANVILLE. I WAS IN A SIMILAR SITUATION THAT THEY 
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ARE IN NOW, WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON ONE OF THE BUILDINGS AT DALLAS AND HAD TO MOVE THE CAMPUS TO CENTRO FAMILIAR CRISTIANO FOR A SEASON, WE DID COME BACK TO THAT CAMPUS AND ACTUALLY SET ONE. THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION HERE. THEY'RE BUILDING A BEAUTIFUL JUNIOR HIGH CAMPUS ON THEIR CAMPUS. THEY JUST NEED A PLACE. AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF DUNCANVILLE FAMILIES THAT GO TO DUNCANVILLE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH. AND WE'RE ALSO JUST TRYING TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NEEDING SOMETHING FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS. WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE IT A SEMESTER JUST IN CASE THEY NEED ANY LEEWAY. BUT THAT THAT PARKING LOT THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVE BEEN I, WE KNOW WE CAN'T BE STACKING ON WHEATLAND AND EVEN ON THAT PARKING LOT, THERE ISN'T A THERE'S ANOTHER ROW OF PARKING IN THAT SPACE WHERE IF WE NEED TO ADD A FIFTH LINE TO HOLD THOSE, STUDENTS, THE PARENTS AND THE CARS, WE CAN DO THAT. SO WE HAVE SOME EXTRA OPTIONS TO HELP. IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES ON WHEATLAND. BUT WITH THE STUDIES THAT THE ARCHITECTS HAVE DONE, THE QUEUING IS SUPPOSED TO BE MORE THAN ADEQUATE. AND SO AGAIN , SHE'S TRAINED UP OUR FAMILY AS WELL. I'M A PARENT, AT THE SCHOOL. AND, WE COMMUNICATE REALLY WELL WITH THE PARENTS OF LIKE, THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. IT'S TO THE SCHOOL'S BENEFIT THAT THEY FOLLOW THE PLAN AS PROPOSED. AND WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING INTO MORE STREET. AND THE OTHERS AND KEEPING THAT, PEACH STREET AVAILABLE FOR THE RESIDENTS THERE. AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SERVE THAT GROUP FOR THAT SMALL SEASON THAT THEY NEED. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? IF YOU HANG TIGHT, I'M SURE THERE WILL BE SOME QUESTIONS. I KNOW I HAVE A COUPLE, SO IF Y'ALL JUST HANG TIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK FOR THIS APPLICATION? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR ZONING APPLICATION? IF YOU WOULD COME AND GIVE US YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND YOU MAY BEGIN YOUR YOUR TWO MINUTE COMMENTS. OKAY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. I'M SORRY. OKAY. MY NAME IS JEFFREY HARTFORD. I RESIDE AT 1531 MACARTHUR DRIVE, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. NUMBER ONE, DOES THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. I KNOW WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, BUT IS THERE A SIGN OUT SOMEWHERE SAYING BRING MORE SCHOOLS INTO THE CITY? I'M WONDERING, SECONDLY, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO COME TO DUNCANVILLE AND NOT BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. WHAT DOES THE SCHOOL BRING TO DUNCANVILLE? OKAY. HOW DO WE BENEFIT AS AS CITIZENS, AS WE'RE GETTING MORE TRAFFIC AND WE'RE JUST NOT BENEFITING? WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING OUT OF THIS. AND SO THAT'S MY QUESTION TO THE BOARD. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HARPER. 
          ANYONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK, ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS APPLICATION? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE, NO ONE ELSE. I HAVE, BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I BELIEVE, FOR, I DON'T KNOW IF MR. BEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF I DIDN'T GET YOUR LAST NAME CORRECTLY, BUT THE ARCHITECT WORKED ON THIS. YES, SIR, YOU MENTIONED A FIFTH, QUEUING LANE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DROP OFF POINT WILL ACTUALLY BE ON PHYSICALLY ON TO PEACH STREET. 
          CORRECT SO IT WOULD NOT BE ON PEACH STREET. IT WOULD BE IN THE PARKING STALLS ADJACENT TO PEACH STREET. SO THE ACTUAL DROP OFF THERE. SO THERE'S 20 FOOT WIDE PARKING STALLS ADJACENT TO PEACH STREET THAT WOULD BE BLOCKED OFF AND USED FOR YOU ONLY NEED ROUGHLY 13 14FT FOR A CARPOOL LANE TO DROP OFF. THOSE CURRENTLY OPERATE THEIR OFF STREET. IT'S CURRENTLY OFF STREET PARKING ON PEACH STREET, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO DOES IT DOES IT CURRENTLY OPERATE FOR THE CHURCH LIKE HANDICAPPED PARKING OR SOMETHING MORE ACCESSIBLE THAN THAN THE STALLED PARKING? THAT'S THAT'S, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? EAST OF PEACH. SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY OVERFLOW PARKING FOR THE CHURCH WHEN THEY HAVE EVENTS. CORRECT. BUT THE PARKING ALONG PEACH STREET, THE DEDICATED PARKING ALONG PEACHTREE, WHAT IS THAT CURRENTLY FUNCTION AS NOW THAT IS ON THE CHURCH'S PROPERTY. BUT BUT IT'S THERE ARE A FEW HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACES, SO IT'S REGULAR. IT'S A MIX OF REGULAR AND HANDICAPPED PARKING. I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY IT'S CURRENTLY OPERATES. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF NOT HAVING BEEN. SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF THERE'S PARKING SPOTS THERE, THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE HANDICAPPED OR JUST OFF STREET PARKING ON PEACH. QUESTION SO OF BECAUSE I'VE NOT SEEN A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, HOW MANY CARS CAN QUEUE ON SITE? ON SITE WE'VE GOT 1500 LINEAR FEET WITHOUT USING THE ADDITIONAL SPACE IN THE PARKING LOT. SO 1500 LINEAR FEET AT 18FT OF CARS, ALMOST WITH THE EIGHT AND THE QUEUES ABOUT 100 CARS, 100 CARS. BECAUSE HERE'S MY THING. I'VE DONE TRAFFIC 
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MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR SCHOOLS LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT MORNING BECAUSE IT'S STAGGERED. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DROP THEIR CHILDREN OFF AT ANY PERIOD OF TIME. BUT I'VE DONE TRAFFIC AT SCHOOLS LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT AT THE DISMISSAL POINT IS WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR MOST TRAFFIC PRIOR TO DISMISSAL, THE CAR LINE STARTS EARLY AND THEN THERE'S A PEAK FOR ABOUT 18 MINUTES WHEN THE BELL RINGS. AND SO I HEAR THE SUPERINTENDENT TALK ABOUT HOW QUICKLY CARS CAN GET ON AND OFF, HOW MANY CAN BE ACCOMMODATED ON OFF STREET PARKING? MAXIMUM. HOW MANY CARS CAN BE QUEUED OFF STREET IN YOUR CIRCULATION PATTERN? AS YOU, AS YOU, AS YOU HAVE PRESENTED TO THE CITY AS PRESENTED, IT CAN BE 100. THAT WAS THAT WAS BASED OFF OF. SO WE NORTH CAROLINA, TRAFFIC HAS A SPREADSHEET THAT A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS UTILIZE TO CALCULATE QUEUE LENGTHS. BUT RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO QUEUE. YOU HAVE TO CIRCULATE OFF STREET IN DALLAS AT YOUR CURRENT LOCATION. AND I REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE I WAS A ZONING COMMISSIONER WHEN YOU ALL CAME IN FOR YOUR ZONING REQUEST IN DALLAS. SO THAT'S WHY I REMEMBER. YEAH, YEAH. SO HOW MANY CARS CAN YOU ACCUMULATE ACCOMMODATE RIGHT NOW OFF STREET IN YOUR CIRCULATION PATTERN THAT YOU HAVE TO DO ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT WAS A CONCERN WHEN YOU WERE MAKING YOUR ZONING APPLICATION IN DALLAS. SO SO ON BOTH SIDES, WHETHER IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE IN THIS PARKING LOT OR THE WEST SIDE, WE'RE CLOSE TO 1500 LINEAR FEET. THAT WAS OUR TARGET BASED ON I'M TALKING ABOUT CURRENTLY, YOUR CURRENT OPERATION, BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME 260 SOME SOME ODD FAMILIES. HOW ARE YOU MANAGING YOUR TRAFFIC IN DALLAS? I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS YOUR TMP. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR OKAY. SO ON OUR DALLAS CAMPUS WE'RE SERVING 1200 STUDENTS RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT, AND WE HAVE A LONG DRIVE. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY CARS WE CAN QUEUE, BUT WE HAVE A TRAFFIC PATTERN AROUND OUR BUILDINGS, SO WE QUEUE MAYBE 300 CARS AT A TIME, BUT THAT'S 1200 STUDENTS, RIGHT? IN ALL GRADE LEVELS. YES. RIGHT. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT A SMALL SLICE OF YOUR. WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE. THAT'S IT. RIGHT, ABOUT 250 TO 260 STUDENTS AT THE MAX, SO WE KNOW THAT THE QUEUING WE HAVE IS ADEQUATE TO GET EVERYBODY OFF THE STREET WITH 1500 LINEAR SQUARE FEET TO GET ENOUGH CARS OFF THE STREET BEFORE WE START MOVING CARS, I ALSO AM VERY ADAMANT WITH OUR PARENTS ABOUT. YOU CAN'T ARRIVE BEFORE THIS TIME. WE WILL CLOSE OFF THE PARKING LOT AND NOT ALLOW THEM TO DRIVE IN AND JUST SIT THERE, BUT THEY'LL QUEUE AND WAIT SOME PLACE ELSE. WELL, WE DON'T, WE HAVE NOT ALLOWED. THAT'S THE WAY THAT WORKS TO HAPPEN, I ARE AS AS DOCTOR BARKER SAID, WE HAVE GREAT COMMUNICATION WITH OUR PARENTS AND THEY'RE VERY COOPERATIVE. SO SO THAT ISN'T AN ISSUE REALLY, ESPECIALLY ON OUR SMALLER CAMPUSES. WE DO RUN A CAMPUS IN DUNCANVILLE AND ALSO IN MANSFIELD THAT IS THE SAME SIZE AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC FLOW WITH A CAMPUS THAT SIZE. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, I HAVE A QUESTION. AS FAR AS TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE THAT ARE ENTERING AND EXITING USING PEACH STREET AS WELL, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO WORK IN THE MORNING, MANAGING THAT FLOW OF TRAFFIC, THAT MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL TO PEACH STREET. YES, MA'AM. SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A CROSSING GUARD AT THE POINT WHERE THEY WOULD ESSENTIALLY LIKE IF YOU HAD A CROSSING FOR PEDESTRIANS, SOMEBODY WOULD STOP TRAFFIC, ALLOW CARS TO PULL ACROSS PEACH STREET, AND THEN AFTER THE CARS CROSS FOR THE CARPOOL TO DROP OFF, PEACH TREE WOULD OPEN BACK UP AND RELIEVE ANY TRAFFIC. SO THEY'D ONLY BE HELD UP FOR, I'D SAY, PROBABLY 20 TO 30S WHILE CARS WERE LEASED TO GO INTO THE CARPOOL LINE. OTHERWISE PEACH TREE WOULD BE UNINTERESTED. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE USING THE PARKING OFF OF PEACH STREET TO DO THE DROP OFF SO THAT WE DON'T IMPEDE THE TRAFFIC THERE. ALL RIGHT. COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? VICE CHAIR RODRIGUEZ. MINE IS MORE OF A SUGGESTION ON THE, PEACH TREE AS YOU POTENTIALLY CONSIDER EVEN APPROACHING PUBLIC WORKS ABOUT A CROSSWALK. IF THIS CASE PROCEEDS, AS A PRECAUTION, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD REMEDY SOME OF THEIR ISSUES WITH CROSSING GUARDS AND, DURING THE TIME THAT THAT STREET IS USED, I DON'T I CAN'T SEE THEM. IT'S PROBABLY AN 
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OLD PICTURE. THEY MAY BE SOMETHING THERE, I DON'T KNOW. SURE. WELL, THE CITY WAS KIND AND REPAVED PEACH STREET ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO AGO, BUT. BUT WHEN THEY DID, THEY PAVED OVER OUR CROSSWALK. WE JUST HAD A STRIPING PERSON COME OUT AND HE'S BEEN REFRESHING ALL OF OUR LINES. HE'S ACTUALLY COMING OUT THIS NEXT WEEK TO FINISH THE CROSSWALK OVER THAT SECTION. SO THERE'S NOT ONE SHOWN ON THAT PICTURE. BUT WE WERE GOING TO REPAVE IT BECAUSE OR RESTRIPE IT, HE'S WRAPPING IT UP. HE'S ALREADY DONE 90% OF THE PARKING LOT, BUT THAT WILL BE DONE BY NEXT WEEK. IS THE PLAN ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. SURE, QUICK. WELL MAYBE A QUICK QUESTION, COLUMBUS. THANK YOU, SO, SO THE CURRENT NUMBER OF STUDENTS IS ESTIMATED AT 250 AND 260 STUDENTS FOR THE NEXT SEMESTER, HOW WAS THAT CALCULATED? AND HOW WHAT'S THE, POTENTIAL ERROR? WHAT'S THE RANGE? THE RANGE FOR THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS. SO MAX IS 260 FOR OUR NEW BUILDING. AND THOSE STUDENTS HAVE ALREADY ENROLLED. SO THEY'RE ENROLLED. THEY'VE LOCKED IN THEIR ENROLLMENT FOR THE FALL. SO WE KNOW THIS FAMILY'S COMING. THEIR WILL BE AROUND EITHER BETWEEN 250 TO 60. BUT 260 IS OUR MAX FOR OUR NEW BUILDING. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY MORE STUDENTS THAN THAT. OKAY, AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT, I BELIEVE I CAN'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME. THE ARCHITECT SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE ABOUT 100 CARS ON SITE QUEUED , FOR IT TO BE 100, 100. I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE 100 CARS QUEUED. THE POSSIBILITY IS WE COULD HAVE 100 CARS QUEUED, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW OUR CAR LINE WORKS, BECAUSE PARENTS WILL BE COMING RANDOMLY BETWEEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO STACK 100 CARS NECESSARILY. THEY COULD BE. OKAY THANK YOU. DOES THAT HELP? YES. 
          OKAY ALL RIGHT. THINKING NO MORE QUESTIONS IN QUEUE FOR STAFF, I MEAN, FOR FROM COLLEAGUES, FOR THE APPLICANT, COLLEAGUES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION? ALL RIGHT. IT IS 744 IN THE EVENING, AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS, FOR YOUR MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, FOR YOUR SECOND. ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 744, PLEASE VOTE, WITH YOUR BUTTON. ALL RIGHT, FIVE. SIX. VOTING IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES. THE PUBLIC HEARING STANDS CLOSED. COLLEAGUES, IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ, I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR. ALL RIGHT. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS THE TIME CONSTRAINTS. IF IT GOES OVER AS OPPOSED TO DECEMBER, MAY BE GIVEN 12 MONTHS. JUST SO ARE YOU. SO YOU'RE APPROVING FOR A 12 MONTH PERIOD? YES. SO YOUR MOTION IS TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS. IS THERE A SECOND TO COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ'S MOTION? IN OUR SECOND, COMMISSIONER NGUYEN, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION BUTTON? I SEE COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THIS THIS IS JUST IN GENERAL, THE STATE REQUIREMENT FOR THE NOTIFICATIONS, DO I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE STATE IN TERMS OF US NOTIFYING THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THE OTHER LOTS? SURE. AND I DON'T WANT TO PRACTICE OUTSIDE OF SCOPE. I THINK, STAFF HAS INDICATED SOME QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, THEY HAVE NOTICED FROM THE FURTHEST LOT NUMBER. SO IF YOU NOTICE FACING WHEATLAND, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY, I BELIEVE, 4 OR 5 LOTS. I DON'T REMEMBER QUITE FROM THE NOTICE MAP. I THINK THERE ARE 4 OR 5 LOTS THAT APPARENTLY ARE ALL FIVE LOTS THAT PROBABLY OWNED BY THE CHURCH THAT ARE A PART OF THIS NOTICE AREA. IF YOU GO BACK ONE MORE, IF YOU GO BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE, I WANT RIGHT THERE. 
          OKAY. SO IF YOU LOOK LOTS 243 239 235 231 AND 237 ARE ALSO SUBJECT TO THIS NOTICE. STAFF SHARED. THEY PRIMARILY COUNTED THE 200 NOTICE FEET FROM LOCATION, 600. SO YOU SEE THE 
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PRIMARY, SEE THE GO BACK. GO BACK. YEAH. GO BACK. YES. SO IF YOU LOOK HERE THE CHURCH IS SITTING AT 600 RIGHT. SO THEY PROBABLY NOTICED FROM THERE, IF. WHILE I MAY NOT BE ENTITLED TO GIVE ADVICE, I WOULD DEFER THE NOTICE, OBLIGATION AND REQUIREMENTS TO STAFF, IF THEY FEEL THAT THIS IS READY FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION ON TODAY, I ASSUME THAT THEY'VE MET THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, OR THEY WILL CURE THOSE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS BEFORE THEY GO TO COUNCIL. OTHERWISE IT WOULDN'T BE BEFORE US AS A BODY TO MAKE SUCH A DECISION, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY OR KNOWLEDGE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW OR TEST WHETHER OR NOT IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN NOTICED FROM ITS PROPER POINT. SO I ASSUME THAT IT'S READY FOR ACTION BECAUSE IT'S BEFORE US. BUT THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD WAS THAT WE WEREN'T SURE THAT LIKE TWO LOT 226, 230 AND 235 WERE NOTIFIED. IS THAT WAS THAT THE DISCUSSION? THAT WAS THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION. BUT BUT BECAUSE THIS ITEM IS STILL BEFORE US FOR ACTION, I ASSUME THAT STAFF HAS MADE THE NECESSARY NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND WE'LL MAKE OUR DECISION. BUT IF IT'S NOT READY TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE OF LACK OF NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, STAFF WILL HAVE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AND REMEDIATE THAT AS THEY SEE. BUT THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW TO UNDERSTAND. WE ASSUME THE ZONING CASE IS READY TO GO. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. THIS IS A CLARIFICATION ON THAT, THE NOTICES THAT NEEDED TO BE SENT OUT WERE LACKING WITH SEVERAL OF THE LOTS. WELL, WE DON'T KNOW THAT. WE JUST I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW THAT ON AUTHORITY. RIGHT SO WHEN WHENEVER A ZONING REQUEST BECOMES A FOR A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OR A CITY COUNCIL FOR THAT STAFF WILL SAY THAT IT'S BEEN PROPERLY NOTICED AND IT'S READY FOR ACTION. AND SO, MR. CUZI SAID THAT THERE MAY BE SOME QUESTION, BUT WE CAN'T INVESTIGATE AND DISPOSITION THAT QUESTION HERE TODAY. SO I THE FACT THAT IT'S STILL MOVING FORWARD SUGGESTS TO ME THAT STAFF IS SATISFIED THAT IT DOES MEET, IN FACT, NOTICE REQUIREMENTS. AND SO, WE'VE ENTERTAINED A MOTION AND A SECOND ON IT. STAFF, YOU WANT TO SHARE A THING OR DOES THAT SUMMARIZE IT. YEAH OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON, THE ZONING APPLICATION? I'LL SIMPLY SAY THAT I. MY, MY ONE AND ONLY COMMENT ON IT IS NOTWITHSTANDING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I ASSUME THAT STAFF WILL ENSURE THAT THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET. I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING THAT OR ENSURING THAT I GUESS MY PRIMARY CONCERN AND QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. I THINK THAT WHILE WE'RE TALKING NINE MONTHS OR 90 DAYS, WHICH HAS BEEN KIND OF THE UNDERGIRDING OF THE REQUEST, 90 DAYS OF 260 FAMILIES, CONVERGING ON THIS SITE WITH A 15 MINUTE DISMISSAL TIME BETWEEN 150 AND 230 ON A BUSY INTERSECTION OF SANTA FE TRAIL AND WHEATLAND CAUSES ME CONCERN WITHOUT ANY REAL TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT IS SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION BASED ON THE ADVICE PERHAPS THEY'VE RECEIVED FROM STAFF, BUT JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH SCHOOLS, YOUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE IS THE MANAGEMENT OF YOUR TRAFFIC AND NOT JUST FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS AROUND, BUT ALSO FOR THE SAFETY OF STUDENTS AND FACULTY AND STAFF ON THE CAMPUS. IS A IS A REAL BIG IS A REAL BIG THING TO ME. AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY REAL EVIDENCE OF HOW THAT WAS GOING TO BE PROPERLY MANAGED, ON SITE. AND SO WITH THAT, I HAVE RESERVATIONS AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR, ZONING REQUEST. SO. I WAS PREVIOUSLY A CROSSING GUARD FOR BYRD MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH IS ON WHEATLAND, PEOPLE TREAT WHEATLAND LIKE IT'S THE HIGHWAY 60MPH. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A SCHOOL ZONE OR NOT. A SCHOOL ZONE WHEN THEY'RE IN THE MORNING, WHEN THE SUN HITS, DEPENDING ON THE LIGHT, THEY CAN'T SEE IF A KID IS THERE AND THEY STILL DRIVE AT 50 OR 60MPH. SO I HAVE RESERVATIONS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE SAFE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT IS GOING TO BE SAFE FOR THE KIDS WHO ARE TRAVELING TO OTHER SCHOOLS, EITHER BY WALKING OR WE LIKE FOR WE LIKE TO SAY, KIDS, STAY WHERE WHERE YOU DROP THEM OFF. FROM 
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EXPERIENCE, I'VE SEEN KIDS BE DROPPED OFF AND WALKED TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE AND CONVENIENT. SO I HAVE CONCERNS THAT THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND THE CONSIDERATIONS HERE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE KIDS ARE SAFE AND THAT THE FAMILIES ARE SAFE WHO ARE USING THIS LOCATION. I HAVE TO PIGGYBACK THAT CONCERN AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S THE PROPER ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF A SCHOOL AND MAKING SURE THINGS LIKE, SLOWING DOWN TO THAT 20 MILES AN HOUR BECAUSE YOU'RE ENTERING A SCHOOL ZONE. AND SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE A SCHOOL ZONE FOR THAT THREE MONTHS, MODIFYING THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS TO REFLECT THAT YOU'RE ENTERING AND EXITING THE SCHOOL ZONE IS GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE KIDS ARE SAFE, NUMBER ONE, AND THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOW COMING INTO THIS NEW ZONE HAVE TO GET THE ORIENTATION, BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN, THERE'S A SCHOOL HERE. THERE WASN'T THERE BEFORE. AND SO WITH THAT, PEOPLE HAVE, YOU KNOW, VERY ROTE MEMORIES. AND TO GET USED TO THIS NEW PATTERN MIGHT, YOU KNOW, BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE KIDS SAFETY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER O'BRIEN. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK WE'RE PAST. I THINK WE'RE PAST THAT POINT. UNFORTUNATELY SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS REQUEST? HOLD ON. COMMISSIONER, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE BEFORE WE GO AROUND TO I THINK YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU WANT TO GO AGAIN? HOLD ON. LET ME JUST MAKE SURE. IS THERE ARE ANY COLLEAGUES THAT DESIRE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER NGUYEN, ONE OF THE THINGS I I'VE HEARD THE TALK ABOUT BIRD MIDDLE SCHOOL IS THAT THE ONE THAT AT GREENSTONE IN WHEATLAND BECAUSE, I'VE YET TO SEE ANY STUDENTS FROM BIRD THAT ARE THAT FAR UP WHERE THE CHURCH IS, ALSO, THE CHURCH DOES HAVE ACTIVITIES THERE WITH CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY SPONSOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YOUNG LIFE, ACTIVITIES. AND SOMETIMES THERE ARE BUSSES THERE. AND, HAVING BEEN ON SITE, I, I'VE NOTICED THAT WHEN PEOPLE SEE, A LARGE NUMBER OF CHILDREN AND THOSE CHILDREN ARE USUALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OLDER AND THEY'RE USUALLY OUT THERE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, UNCONCERNED ABOUT THE CHILDREN THAT ARE OUT THERE, MY QUESTION, SINCE THE, THE, THE IDEA WAS BROUGHT UP THAT THAT, PERHAPS SOME OF THE, PEOPLE WERE NOT NOTIFIED, BASED ON, THOSE LOT NUMBERS, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT A PARTICULAR, SPEAR RADIUS, IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH ACTUALLY EARLY MOVING THAT RADIUS SUCH THAT THOSE, IT'S THE, HAVING TO ACTUALLY NOTIFY THOSE PEOPLE AT THIS TIME WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY. I'M NOT SURE OF THAT PART. I'LL LET STAFF RESPOND TO THAT. I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU COULD CHANGE THE TRAFFIC FLOW RADIUS OTHER THAN MOVING IT INTO THE CHURCH PARKING LOT. YEAH, BUT HER, I THINK COMMISSIONER WYNN'S QUESTION WAS, WERE THERE INDIVIDUALS AND I AND CORRECT ME IF I'M MISS PARAPHRASING WHAT THAT'S A NEW WORD MISS PARAPHRASE. IF I MISS PARAPHRASE ARE I THINK COMMISSIONER WYNN'S QUESTION WAS ARE THERE INDIVIDUALS WHO WE'VE NOT NOTICED THAT PERHAPS SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTICED, GIVEN THIS RADIUS IS THAT. NO, I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE WITHIN THE RADIUS THAT FROM WHAT IS BEING SAID IS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. CORRECT. AND SO MY QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE RADIUS COULD BE, SHORTENED SUCH THAT THOSE THAT YOU COULD, THEN THEY COULD COME BACK, THE APPLICANT COULD PERHAPS THEN GO, YOU KNOW, THAT NOTIFICATION COULD GO OUT TO THOSE BECAUSE AT THIS POINT YOU'RE MOVING THE SPHERE OF THE RADIUS. YOU'RE SAYING, I'M, I'M GOING BACK. SO YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY, HOW CAN YOU RETROACTIVE NOTICE. RIGHT. AND I DON'T ALL THAT RETROACTIVELY NOTICE BECAUSE IF, IF THIS, IF THIS APPLICANT IS AMENDING THEIR PROPOSAL AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEING INCLUDED, THEN THOSE THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE NOT NOTIFIED WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED ANYWAY. OH, 
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NO. AS LONG AS. NO, NO, NO, THAT THAT LOGIC DOESN'T HOLD UP. NO. SO SIX 600 IS THE PRIMARY USE HOWEVER 227 231, 235 239 AND 243 ARE ALSO WITHIN THE ZONING REQUEST. AND SO THERE SHOULD BE A NOTICE FROM TWO, TWO, SEVEN, 200FT ONWARD, THE EASIEST WAY TO CONSIDER IT, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, IS THAT THE ENTRANCE IS AT 227. THAT LOT RIGHT THERE. WHICH MEANS THAT LOT 219, WHICH HAS A DRIVEWAY THAT FACES WHEATLAND, FACES THE POTENTIAL OF CARS STOPPING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, NOTICE, MORE THAN LIKELY SHOULD HAVE GONE OUT TO THEM. WE CAUGHT. IT WAS LATE FRIDAY WHEN I DISCOVERED THAT WE HAD NOT NOTICED FROM THE PARKING LOT. THAT'S WHY WE CONTINUED WITH THE MEETING, I SUSPECT WE'LL SEE THIS AGAIN, I JUST SUSPECT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT ACTION WE TAKE, BECAUSE 200FT IS NOT THE SAME FROM LOCATION 600 THAN IT IS FROM 227. I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S A IT'S A LARGER REACH, I THINK, TO COMMISSIONER NGUYEN'S QUESTION. SO. OKAY ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, HAVE A QUESTION, A COMMENT, I GUESS, FOR STAFF. I TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HERE, AND AS ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES COMMENTED EARLIER, THE TRAFFIC ON WHEATLAND MOVES AT A PRETTY GOOD CLIP, HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT EVEN INSTALLING SOME SCHOOL ZONE SIGNS OR SOME SORT OF LIGHT OR SOMETHING TO TRY TO HELP TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN IN THAT AREA? I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT CONVERSATION HAS BEEN HAD WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE SOMETHING WHERE IF WE DID THAT AND THE SUP EXPIRES IN, SAY, THE END OF DECEMBER, WHERE WE THE CITY, UNLESS IT'S PUT ON THE APPLICANT, WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FUNDING THE CROSSWALK AT BOTH WHEATLAND AND SANTA FE, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU COVER THE ENTIRE THE, AREA OF THE SCHOOL WITH A, WITH THE FLASHING LIGHTS, CROSSWALK AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND THEN THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FUNDING AND PULLING THOSE OUT ONCE THE TEMPORARY USE IS NO LONGER THERE . AND MY LAST COMMENT. YEAH, HAVE YOU TALKED TO TALKED TO THE POLICE CHIEF ABOUT THE NEW TRAFFIC PATTERN THAT'S GOING ON, EVOLVE BECAUSE OF THIS USE, I, I DID I REACHED OUT TO BOTH THE INTERIM POLICE CHIEF AND THE INTERIM FIRE CHIEF. TO DISCUSS THIS. THEIR THEIR CONCERNS ARE SIMILAR TO, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE RAISED THIS EVENING, WHICH IS IF QUEUING WERE TO OCCUR ON WHEATLAND OR IF QUEUING WERE TO OCCUR ALONG PEACH STREET, SUCH TO THE POINT THAT IN AN EMERGENCY, SEE, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD EMERGENCY, PERSONNEL COULD NOT EASILY ACCESS THAT PROPERTY. YOU DO HAVE. IT COULD BE A FEW SECONDS. IT MAY BE A COUPLE OF MINUTES WHERE THOSE EMERGENCY SERVICES CARS ARE DELAYED. IF THERE IS QUEUING. SO THAT THAT WAS THE CONCERN EXPRESSED BY BOTH THE INTERIM FIRE CHIEF AND THE INTERIM POLICE CHIEF. COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION. IT'S MORE OF A, COMMENT BECAUSE THE CITIZEN FROM THE COMMUNITY HAD A QUESTION, AND THE QUESTION WAS, HOW DOES THIS BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS FAR AS WHAT IS THE DUNCANVILLE AND THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD BENEFITING FROM THIS VENTURE? YEAH, I IF I CAN MR. KEATS, I THINK, COMMISSIONER OF THAT THE QUESTION I THINK WAS KIND OF LAID OUT IN A RHETORICAL FASHION OF, YOU KNOW, SIMPLY ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK, FOR US THAT WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THIS APPLICATION OVER AND AGAINST THE REQUIREMENTS OF AN SUPP, WHICH ARE LAID OUT, YOU KNOW, DOES IT ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THOSE THE CRITERIA FOR AN SP, BASED ON THE FACE OF IT, IS I THINK HOW WE 
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HAVE TO, I THINK, ANALYZE THE APPLICATION OVER AND AGAINST WHAT WHAT THE RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, POSED TO US AS A CITY, IN QUESTIONING THE VALUE THAT THIS APPLICATION WOULD BRING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS, QUESTION IS, YOU MENTIONED OR MAYBE I CAN'T REMEMBER, SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT THE TMP IS NOT REQUIRED AND THAT WAS THAT THAT WAS SHARED. 
          IS THERE, A WAY FOR THIS BOARD TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR WITH A CAVEAT THAT THERE'S SOME TMP THAT IS APPROVED BY SOMEBODY? OR IS THAT IN OUR PURVIEW? YES. THIS THIS BODY ACTUALLY CAN APPROVE. IT COULD BE A CONDITION , OF THE SUPP APPLICATION. SO SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT, FURNISH A, A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, THAT'S APPROVED BY THE CITY AND A PART OF THEIR APPLICATION AS IT MOVES FORWARD TO COUNCIL, THAT COULD BE WHAT THIS BODY SO CHOSE. IF IF, IF, IF THEY WANTED TO IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT. SO, THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO SOCHI. OKAY. SO WHILE YOU WERE, WHILE YOU WERE NOT THE MOVANT ON THAT. LET ME SEE IF I CAN'T ASK YOUR COLLEAGUE. AND OUR COLLEAGUE IS THERE A WILLING TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION, FOR APPROVAL FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD? SUBJECT TO A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN APPROVED BY THE CITY AND PRESENTED TO COUNCIL? YES. THERE IS. OKAY, SO THE MOTION NOW ON THE FLOOR IS THAT WE APPROVE OR. 
          I'M SORRY. DO YOU STILL MAINTAIN YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER WYNNE? I'M SORRY, I DO. OKAY. SO WE STILL HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. SO THE NEW MOTION ON THE AMENDED MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR FOR A 12 MONTH PERIOD, SO SUBJECT TO A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY AND PRESENTED, AS A PART OF THIS APPLICATION FOR SOUP BEFORE CITY, BEFORE ITS CITY COUNCIL DATE, MR. KEITH, WE MAY WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT HOW LONG THEY THINK IT'LL TAKE THEM TO DO A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, KNOWING, WELL, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE APPROVAL KNOWING THAT THEY INTEND TO MOVE IN IN AUGUST. NEVERTHELESS MR. KEYES, THAT'S THE APPROVAL, IF THE APPLICANT IS UNABLE TO IF THIS BODY APPROVED, THAT'S ASSUMING THAT WE APPROVE THAT MOTION. SO IF WE APPROVE IT, THEN IT'LL BE ON THE APPLICANT. I'M NOT REALLY SENSITIVE TO HOW LONG IT WILL OR WILL NOT TAKE THEM. IF THAT'S THE MOTION ON ON THE FLOOR FROM FROM THIS BODY WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. BUT I GET IT. YES. THAT'S THE NEW MOTION, COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS, SO 12 MONTH PERIOD, SUBJECT TO AN APPROVED CITY WOULD APPROVE A TMP, AND THAT TMP WOULD ALSO BE A PART OF ITS APPLICATION TO CITY COUNCIL, FOR APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER ANY COMMENTS ON THE AMENDED MOTION? HEARING NONE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE MOTION I'VE READ IN, 12 MONTHS SUBJECT TO TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY AND PRESENTED AS A PART OF ITS APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL, IF YOU WOULD VOTE, FOR THIS APPLICATION. I'M GETTING READY TO. ALL RIGHT. FIVE VOTING IN FAVOR, COMMISSIONERS COLUMBUS, THOMPSON WIN. O'BRIEN AND RODRIGUEZ VOTING IN FAVOR, AND COMMISSIONER DAVIS VOTING IN OPPOSITION. THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THIS ITEM 
          [5. Continue discussion pertaining to the five-year comprehensive plan.]
NUMBER FIVE. SO WE DO CONTINUE DISCUSSION PERTAINING TO THE FIVE YEAR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. I KNOW THAT, CHAIR DAVIS MYSELF AND SOME, SOME OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE DID, DO EVALUATIONS OF THE RFP PROPOSALS THAT WERE RECEIVED FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. BUT, I DON'T THINK WE CAN SHARE THE NAMES PUBLICLY YET BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE OUR PROCUREMENT OFFICE HAS NOTIFIED ANYBODY YET, BUT WE HAVE SELECTED THREE FIRMS THAT THE COMMITTEE WILL THEN SCHEDULE INTERVIEWS WITH TO DETERMINE WHICH ONE THE COMMITTEE THAT IS CURRENTLY REVIEWING THE PROPOSALS, PREFERS. ONCE WE DO THAT, WE WILL CERTAINLY BRING IT BACK TO THIS BODY AND TO THIS 
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COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. BUT WE HAVE MADE SOME PROGRESS. AND IDENTIFYING THE, THE, FIRM THAT WE WILL HAVE COME IN TO CONDUCT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STUDY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY ONCE WE GET THEM SELECTED, I THINK MOST OF THEM HAD A SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 8 TO 12 MONTH TIME FRAME IN WHICH THEY WOULD CONDUCT THE STUDY, CONDUCT COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND, AND REALLY DRAW UP A PLAN THAT THE COMMUNITY, THIS BOARD, OUR COUNCIL, APPROVES AND BELIEVES THAT IT IS , CONSISTENT WITH THE VISION FOR THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR FOR YOUR WORK IN IN GETTING US, TO THE PLACE WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY ENGAGE A FIRM TO CONTINUE OUR WORK ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE, AS WE ALL KNOW, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AS A BODY, IT REALLY UNDERGIRDS AND HELPS GUIDES THE DECISION THAT WE MAKE. FROM A PLANNING AND ZONING PERSPECTIVE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. MY FAVORITE ITEM ADJOURNMENT. IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AT. THERE'S I HEAR A MOTION COMMISSIONER WYNNE TO, I HEAR I HEAR COMMISSIONER WYNNE EXCITINGLY MAKING A MOTION AT 808 TO STAND ADJOURNED. 
          COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS IN SECOND. ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.