[3. Approve minutes for the Planning and Zoning Commission regular meeting on February 12, 2024, and cancelled meetings on March 11, 2024, and April 8, 2024.]

I'M SORRY. COLLEAGUES TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FROM FEBRUARY. 12TH 2024 AND THE COUNCIL MEETINGS OF, UM MARCH THIR, UH, MARCH 11TH AND APRIL 8TH OF 2024 AT ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I WOULD HAVE HAD TRAIN MOTION. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR. RODRIGUEZ I THANK YOU FOR THAT SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER W AND ALL THOSE VOTING. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE ON THAT ON THAT MOTION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR. PLEASE SAY AYE, I ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT MOTION CARRIES ITEM

[4. Conduct a public hearing (2024-07) for consideration and action regarding the request of Shawkat Albess, applicant, representing Ramis Lube Inc, owner, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) to allow for the use “Banquet or Event Center” on Grace Properties, Block A, Lot 1, ACS 2.001, more commonly known as 119 East Danieldale Road, Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]

NUMBER FOUR. MISTER KEYS. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING. 20 24-07 FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REGARDING THE REQUEST OF SHAW CATT ALBUS APPLICANT REPRESENTING RAMAS LUBE INC.

OWNER FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE USE BANQUET OR EVENT CENTER ON GRACE PROPERTIES . BLOCK A LOT ONE A CS 2.001, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 119, EAST DANIEL DALE ROAD, DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY. UM, I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT. COMMISSIONERS, UM. IF YOU IF YOU GIVE ME ONE SECOND, MR KEYS, LET ME SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW I WANNA DO THIS BECAUSE TYPICALLY, WE DO OUR PRESENTATION AND KIND OF THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION. I'M DOING THE BRIEFING. BUT ARE THERE A COUPLE SLIDES? YOU'D LIKE TO WALK US THROUGH? UM BEFORE WE THEN OPEN THE FLOOR FOR COMMENTS IF THE COMMISSION WOULD INDULGE ME TO KINDA MAILED THE TWO TOGETHER. ABSOLUTELY SURE MR WARREN DID PREPARE A PRESENTATION. AND SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE FOR YOU. SO WE ARE DOING A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A BANQUET OR AN EVENT CENTER. AND THE DEFINITION OF A BANQUET OR EVENT CENTER IS THERE UM YOU'VE GOT A FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION OF MAIN STREET OPPORTUNITY AREA. AND THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT IS LOCAL OFFICE RETAIL DISTRICT. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE ACTUAL SITE. YOU CAN SEE IT THERE ACROSS FROM THE SERVICE CENTER. IT'S VACANT ON THE WEST AND THE EAST. AND THEN RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH. SERVICE CENTER TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN YOU ALSO CAN SEE IT THERE ON THE ZONING MAP. THERE WERE 33 MAILING SENT OUT AS FAR AS I AM AWARE THE NUMBERS OF ZERO IN FAVOR AND 00 IN OPPOSITION, UH, REMAIN THE SAME AS OF THIS TIME. THERE'S A SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN WE UP CLOSER SHOWING WHERE THE CURRENT BUILDING WHICH WAS A CHURCH.

WHERE IT IS LOCATED. AND HOW IT IS LAID OUT. SO CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE SPECIFIC USE, PERMIT OR LAID OUT HERE. NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT AND COMPA COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT LAND USE.

CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURE AND CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. UM MAY

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PROMOTE INNOVATIVE USE OF MODERN DEVELOPMENT CONCEPTS. CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY. ENHANCEMENT OR IMPROVEMENT BEYOND THE MINIMUM STANDARDS. NOT DETRIMENTAL TO THE GENERAL HEALTH AND SAFETY. STABILIZE AND IMPROVE PROPERTY VALUES. PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE CITY'S ATTRACTIVENESS. AND WOULD HELP STRENGTHEN AND DIVERSIFY THE ECONOMY OF THE CITY. THESE A RE SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS YOU CAN OR CAN'T DO WITH TIME PERIOD FOR AN SUP. AND THEN THIS WAS MR NATHAN'S OR MR WARREN'S RECOMMENDATION. CONSIDERATION FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD. THANK YOU, UH, MR KEYS. COMMISSIONERS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? OH, MR KEYS. I SEE THAT THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD. UM, HELPED ME IF, UM IF I'M DELINQUENT IN ANY WAY, WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION REQUESTED WITHIN THIS SUP, AND I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU I KNOW YOU. I KNOW YOU'RE PINCHING HERE AND I AM PINCH HITTING. I AM LOOKING THROUGH THE NOTES TO SEE BUT I DO NOT AS FAR AS I'M AWARE I DON'T HAVE AN APPLICATION WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND MR WARREN'S PACKET FOR TONIGHT. IS THE APPLICANT HERE. I WONDER PROBABLY NOT. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FROM A LAST CANCELED MEETING. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS. UH, IS THERE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IS THERE? UM, COMMISSIONER W. I SEE YOU. I. I HAD A HAD A QUESTION. UM I WAS LOOKING ON THE NOTES THAT IT WAS SAYING IS RAYMOND'S LR AMI S LUBE. SO IS THIS. UM A BUSINESS THAT'S NOW CHANGING TO THE THEY WANTED A SUP, AND IT'S A CHURCH. I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED. NO MA'AM I. I THINK THAT'S JUST THE OWNER WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY. IT IT WAS A CHURCH. IT IS NO LONGER A CHURCH. IT'S BEEN VACANT. I THINK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME NOW. COMMISSION SO I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO USE THE STRUCTURE BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE CONDUCIVE TO AN EVENT CENTER. AND IF I COULD JUST ELABORATE, COMMISSIONER WHEN I WHAT I UNDERSTAND, OR WHAT I RECALL FROM HAVING LOOKED AT THE APPLICATION MATERIALS THAT THE APPLICANT IS IN THE BUSINESS NAME OF THE OF THE LUBE COMPANY, HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN, UM, BOUGHT FROM THE CHURCH. WHICH ARE YOU KNOW, EXIST AS A AS A USE OF ITS OWN.

AND SO NOW THIS APPLICANT IS COMING, ASKING TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS FACILITY FOR A SPECIAL USE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME FOR EVENTS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT KIND OF GOT ME DOWN THE LINE OF ASKING, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN QUESTIONS, AND SO, UM COMMISSIONS IF THEY'RE IF UM, ARE CO A. IF YOU CAN YOU, CAN YOU YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR YOURSELF. OH, THERE IT GOES. I CAN TELL. SO UM, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE APPLICATION. BEING THAT THIS WAS A CHURCH. I'M NOT QUITE SURE OF THE SIZE IN TERMS OF PARKING OR THOSE KIND OF ACCOMMODATIONS OR UM, IS THERE ANY INDICATION OF OK? IS THERE ANY INDICATION OF, UM AS FAR AS THE EVENT CENTER AND CONVERTING IT? SO ON THE PROPERTY HERE IS A WAY. OH, THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. THAT HELPS SO MUCH. SO, YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE CURRENTLY AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THE APPLICATIONS DONE, BUT THERE IS PARKING IN THE BACK. AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CURRENTLY PARK THE CURRENT STRUCTURE AS AS IT IS, UM TO EVEN EXIST AS AS AS A CHURCH. UM, WE GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. NO I JUST WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE CHURCH OF THE SIZE AND IT BEING CONVERTED TO AN EVENT CENTER OR WHAT WAS THE EXPECTATION FOR PARKING AND TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS ARE THERE I? I HAVE A QUESTION. UH, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING. AND I PREVIOUSLY THIS IS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE LIKE 35 YEARS, BUT IT USED TO BE OLD PUT PUT PLACE I THINK AT ONE TIME AND IT TRANSITIONED. AND YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S A CHURCH AND I CAN'T REALLY TELL AND I SHOULD HAVE DRIVEN BY THERE. THE T IN THE BACK IS THAT CAVE PARKING, OR IS IT AN ALTERNATIVE PAVING SURFACE? IS I. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING IS I. I MEAN, I CAN COME UP WITH SEATING. ON THE OCCUPANCY LOAD JUST MORE OR LESS. BUT IS THAT GOING TO TRIGGER ANY SPECIAL

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REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM, AND I'M KIND OF GLAD WE GOT THE INTERIM CHIEF HERE TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, BUT, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE TRANSITIONING FROM A CHURCH, AND I THINK IT'S UH, PARKING LOT IS ONE FOR EVERY FOUR OCCUPANTS IN I DON'T KNOW. I I WANNA VICE CHAIRMAN IF YOU'D ALLOW ME, I THINK YOU YOU YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD QUESTION ABOUT YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IT CAN BE PARKED AND WHETHER THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION. UM I DON'T WANNA GET SO FAR INTO PERMITTING ISSUES AS TO YOU KNOW. IS IT A I IMPROVED SURFACE OR AN UNIMPROVED SURFACE ON ON WHICH PART? I WONDER, UM I. I WONDER IF AS WE LOOK AT THIS ITEM, IF THERE IS AN APPETITE FROM THE COMMISSION, AND I DON'T SEE THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT, IF WE PERHAPS WOULD ENTERTAIN EMOTION, UM AND I DON'T WANNA JUMP AHEAD OF MYSELF. PERHAPS WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO HOLD THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING PENDING THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. UM WAS THE PARKING SURFACE AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO MAKE A MORE INFORMED DECISION AS TO APPROPRIATE, UM, CERTIFICATE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. UM ARE ARE MY COLLEAGUES. UM, I GUESS AMENABLE TO THAT IF I MAY. MR CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. UH, YOU COULD ALSO IF YOU WERE INCLINED TO GO FORWARD WITH AN APPROVAL, YOU COULD ALSO PUT AS A STIPULATION FOR APPROVAL TO GET IF IT IS NOT CURRENTLY PAID PARKING TO BRING THE PARKING UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS, AS REQUIRED BY OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES TO BRING IT UP TO THE FIRE CODE STANDARDS IF THEY'RE, IN FACT, NOT SPRINKLERS IN THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT FIRE, SAFETY AND FIRE LANES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT , I, I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY THOSE CONCERNS, BUT I THINK MOST OF THOSE CONCERNS AND THIS IS NOT ME AT ALL TRYING TO LEAD HOLDING BECAUSE I HAVE A MO UM ONE WHERE I THINK ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IN ORDER TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, I GUESS I I'M I DON'T WANT US TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE PERMITTING KIND OF AROUND THE HORSESHOE. AND SO WHATEVER THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER SURFACE IS REQUIRED AT THE TIME TO GET A AC O. THAT I THINK THAT WILL PREVAIL. I. I JUST GUESS I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT ARE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS? WHAT HOW? I MEAN, HOW MANY DOES IT PARK I THINK TO COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION. AND YOU KNOW WHAT IS THAT SURFACE TO VICE CHAIRMAN'S QUESTION. AND THEN WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION? WHAT ARE THEY PROPOSING? IS THERE A SECURITY ELEMENT ON HAND? WILL THEY SERVE ? UM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES? UM I THO THOSE ARE JUST SOME. I THINK SOME JUST NA NATURAL QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY BE AT A BETTER POSITION TO ANSWER CAUSE I DON'T SEE THE APPLICANT HERE TODAY. UM AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW. THEY SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HERE. BUT TH THOSE A RE JUST MY THOUGHTS. BUT WITH THAT ARE THE COMMISSIONERS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? HEARING NO. AND SEEING NONE. I'LL THEN NOW PAUSE. THANK YOU. STAFF UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? UM THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM? IF SO, UM IF YOU COME DOWN ON THOSE SPEAKING IN FAVOR IF YOU COME DOWN AND GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS YOU MAY BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS. AND I'M SORRY FOR THE RECORD AND I. I HOPE WE'RE RECORDING. FOR THE RECORD. IT IS 713 AND I'M HERE BY NOW OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. UM, JUST AS A MATTER OF PROCEDURAL UM SO SEEING NO ONE HERE AT WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING BEING OPEN AT 713 SEEING NO ONE HEARS DESIRE TO SPEAK ON FOR, UH, FOR THIS ITEM. I NOW ASK EVERYONE HERE SPEAKING AGAINST THIS ITEM, IF YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO, UH, ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. NOT ALL AT ONCE. EVEN HI. MY NAME IS CYNTHIA WASHINGTON PORTER. AND MY ADDRESS IS 120 BROOKSIDE DRIVE. AND OF COURSE I DO HAVE SOME MORE. BROOKS. I DRIVE. UH, RESIDENCE HERE. AND UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UH, I'M SORRY NOT TO DISTURB YOUR TIME, MISS MISS MISS PORTER, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR YOUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE HERE FROM BROOKSIDE WAVE THEIR HAND OR THOSE WHO ARE HERE TO BE RECOGNIZED, SO THE COMMISSION CAN TAKE NOTE OF THAT. THANK YOU. AND WE DID HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT WE WERE RESCHEDULING IT. BUT THIS IS OUR MAIN CONCERN. OF COURSE IT WAS A CHURCH. AND I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER TO THE CHURCH. IN FACT, I HAD SOMEONE THAT WAS, UH PLAYED, UH, THE OREGON THERE AT THE CHURCH. AND OF COURSE, YEARS BACK, THE

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CHURCH USED TO BE A PUTT PUTT. AND DOING THAT PARTICULAR TIME. UM BROOKS SIDE OF I GUESS IN 1994 STARTED BUILDING SOME HOUSES THERE. WE HAVE SOME TOWN HOUSES WHEN WE FIRST COME IN AND ON THE BACK PART. IT'S SOME LOTS AVAILABLE LOTS THAT WERE STILL THERE. SO THE TWO GENTLEMEN THAT OWNED THE PUTT PUTT ALONG WITH ME, WE PUT A FENCE BACK THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO RETAINING WALL. AND THIS IS ONE OF OUR CONCERNS ALSO. BEING A BANQUET EVENT CENTER. THAT MEANS THAT COULD BE WEDDINGS THAT COULD BE PARTIES. AND UH, OF COURSE OF THE CONCERN OF THAT IS THE OUTSIDE PEOPLE AND BY NOT ACTUALLY HAVING ANY KIND OF RETAINING WALLS OR ANYTHING, AND WE DO HAVE HOUSES PROPERTIES. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR FENCES, BUT OF COURSE YOU KNOW YOU STILL CAN, YOU KNOW, WALK ON. SO THAT WAS A BIG BIG CONCERN. UH, WITH US, UM CONCERNING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I, AS FAR AS PARKING THE PARKING LOT IS JUST A LITTLE YOU KNOW, PARKING LOT IS NOT A BIG BIG PARKING LOT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE THE CHURCH ACTUALLY HOLDS, BECAUSE WHEN I WENT IN, IT'S LIKE THE CHURCH LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE ABOUT AS BIG AS IT IS ON THE INSIDE. AND, UM, ON BOTH SIDES. ONE MINUTE REMAINING. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD BE THE HOURS OF WE'RE NOT A W. WE ARE PRACTICE. I NEED TO GO SIT IN. THA THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND IF YOU WOULD LEAVE THOSE CARDS, I SAY YOU HAVE SOME PREPARED CARDS. IF YOU WOULD LEAVE THEM ON THE TOP OF THE PODIUM, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE PICK THEM UP AND THE AND INCLUDE THEM AS A PART OF THE OF THE RECORD. YEAH FINISH YOUR RECORD KEEPING. AND THEN IF YOU JUST MAKE SURE YOU BRING THEM BACK SO WE CAN HAVE EVERYONE'S POSITION IN ATTENDANCE HERE ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM RECORDED. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE DESIRING TO SPEAK, UH, AGAINST THIS ITEM? ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. I TAKE NOTE THAT IT IS 716 AND I. I HEREBY WILL ENTERTAIN EMOTIONAL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OH, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WYNN. IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONS FOR YOUR SECOND ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, A IN THE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. UH, COMMISSIONERS NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, ON THIS ITEM. I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO UH, MAKE A COMMENT THERE IN LIEU OF ALL THE INFORMATION QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AS WELL AS LISTEN. TO SOME OF THE CITIZENS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA THAT ARE AFFECTED. UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THIS ONE ON HOLD. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A MOTION TO PUT HIS AND HOLD UNDER ADVISEMENT. UNTIL OUR NEXT HEARING. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS AND START LOOKING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO GET ANSWERED IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS ONE. ALL COLLEAGUES, UM, VICE CHAIR. UH, RODRIGUEZ HAS MADE A MOTION TO HOLD THIS SIDE OR UNDER UNDER ADVISEMENT. UM, INTO OUR NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING PENDING THE QUESTIONS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED BY THE COMMISSION AS WELL AS SOME PENDING QUESTIONS, UM, BY THE NEIGHBORS, UH, PARTICULARLY THOSE GIVEN COME IN AROUND BROOKSIDE. UH, IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS. UH, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT MOTION? THE ONLY ONE COME IN. I'LL JUST UNDERSCORE IS THAT BACK TO STAFF IS THAT WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO DO IS UNDERSTAND THE PARKING THE HOURS OPERATION. WHAT ARE THE INTENDED USES PERMITTABLE USES THAT'S IN THE SCOPE OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. ALL RIGHT WITH THAT BEING, UM SAID AND UNDERSTOOD. UM, ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR. SAY, AYE, I UH, MOTION. ANY OPPOSE. MOTION CARRY, SO WE'LL HOLD THIS ITEM

[5. Conduct a public hearing (2024-08) for consideration and action regarding the request of Stuart and Ruth Carlson, applicants and property owners, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) to allow for the use “Temporary Workforce Housing” on Duncanville Estates 1, Block C, Lot 4, more commonly known as 103 South Capri Drive, Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]

UNDER ADVISEMENT TO OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. MR KEYES. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING 20 24-08. FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REGARDING THE REQUEST OF STUART AND RUTH CARLSON, APPLICANTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE USE TEMPORARY WORKFORCE. HOUSING ON DUNCANVILLE ESTATES ONE BLOCK C LOT FOUR MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 103, SOUTH CAPRI DRIVE, DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. AND SO UH, AGAIN. GOT A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR TEMPORARY WORK WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH IS DEFINED AS A UNIT OFFERED FOR RENTAL TO GUEST FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES FOR A TEMPORARY WORK ASSIGNMENT CONTRACT OR TO ATTEND VOCATIONAL OR OCCUPATIONAL TRAINING FOR A PERIOD OF MORE

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THAN 30 NIGHTS, BUT LESS THAN SIX MONTHS COULD INCLUDE A SHARED ROOM, SINGLE ROOM OR THE ENTIRE UNIT. UM SHOULD BE CONDUCTED BY THE HOMEOWNER OR TENANT, NOT BY A HOTEL OR ANOTHER BUSINESS. FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL 10,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM. THIS IS A, UM AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY BOTH WHERE IT SITS, UM, ON THE SATELLITE VIEW, AND THEN AS WELL , THE ZONING MAP OVERLAY OF THE PROPERTY AND YOU CAN SEE IT THERE AT THE CORNER OF CENTER AND CAPRI. 19 MAILINGS WERE SENT OUT AS A THE THIS TIME, THERE WERE ZERO IN FAVOR AND ONE THAT REPLIED IN OPPOSITION. AND MR WARREN. AS HIS RECOMMENDATION THERE WITH CONDITIONS. THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS ARE NO LOUD AND RAUCOUS NOISE, MAYBE PRESENT ON THE PROPERTY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10 P.M. AND 7 A.M. WILL BE REMOVED IF THE LOCATION RECEIVES THREE SUBSTANTIATED COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS FOR EXCESSIVE NOISE OR TRAFFIC WITHIN A 24 MONTH PERIOD. THE PROPERTY MUST CONTINUE TO BE IN GOOD STANDING BY NOT HAVING ANY OUTSTANDING ISSUES RELATED TO TAXES OR CODE COMPLIANCE PROVISIONS. A REPORT MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING STAFF ANNUALLY. THAT INDICATES THE NUMBER OF NIGHTS THE UNIT WAS RENTED AS TEMPORARY WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. PROOF OF PAYMENT OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX AND PROOF OF CURRENT PROPERTY INSURANCE. THE PROPERTY WILL BE SUSPENDED OR REMOVED FROM THE RESIGNATION LIST FOR ONE YEAR. FALSE OR MISLEADING INFORMATION IS PROVIDED. THERE'S BEEN A VIOLATION OF THE TERMS, CONDITIONS OR RESTRICTIONS OR IF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX HAS NOT BEEN PAID. AND THEN CONTINUED OPERATION OF A SHORT TERM RAIL FOLLOWING SUSPENSION OR REMOVAL FROM THE LEGISLATION LIST WILL BE CONSIDERED A VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU, MR KEYES.

COMMISSIONERS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR COLUMBUS. DID THE APPLICANT IN INCLUDE ANY PLANS ABOUT PERFECT PARKING? BECAUSE IT IS. THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. AND AS THAT I BELIEVE IT HAS TWO UM, PARKING SPOTS AVAILABLE IF IT'S DUE, IF IT'S OPEN TO SHARED ROOMS, DID THE APPLICANT INCLUDE ANY DESCRIPTION ABOUT HOW THEY WERE HAND HANDLE THAT OR THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED. I DID NOT AGAIN DIDN'T SEE THE APPLICATION , BUT I DID HAPPEN TO SHAKE HANDS WITH THE APPLICANT PRIOR TO THE MEETING SO THAT I DO KNOW THEY ARE HERE, AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR KEYS, AND WE WILL HOLD THAT COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS FOR THE APPLICANT. UM UM, JUST IN A MOMENT MENTIONED ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. ALRIGHT HEARING NOW ON THIS ITEM, UM IS THE THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE HERE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST? UM IS THERE ANYONE HERE SPEAKING FOR THIS APPLICATION IF YOU PLEASE? AGAINST OK. ONE MOMENT. UM UM, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR WAY DOWN, UM, IF YOU PLAN TO HAVE COMMENTS IS THERE ANYONE DESIRING TO SPEAK FOR THIS APPLICATION? IS THE APPLICANT HERE DESIRING TO BE HEARD, OR. ALL RIGHT, SEEING NO ONE HERE DESIRING TO SPEAK FOR THIS APPLICATION. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS APPLICATION? IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU CAN THEN BEGIN YOUR TWO MINUTE COMMENTS. AND IF YOU BRING THE MICROPHONE DOWN? YEP EXCUSE ME. MY NAME IS LUCY MEER. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES YES, MA'AM. OK UM I LIVE AT 827 CHERYL BOULEVARD. WHICH IS UM, DIAGONAL TO THE LOCATION. AND IT REQUESTING THE CHANGE OF ZONING. I DON'T KNOW IT'S NOT A CHANGE IN ZONING. IT'S I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT'S CALLED. WHAT IS IT? IT'S A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. UM, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THIS USE, UH, UNDER SPECIAL PURPOSES TO EXIST TO MEET THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING NEED AS DEFINED WITHIN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES. UM MY FIRST OBJECTION IS THAT THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA. TO ME. IT SEEMS LIKE A PLACE WHERE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN. GRANDCHILDREN. UM YOU KNOW, HAVE CHILDREN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT BE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT FROM DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM, UH, HOW THEY GOT THERE, UM, BACKGROUND CHECKS. UM, THAT TYPE OF THING. UM I DID HEAR THAT THERE WAS NO LONGER THAN SIX MONTHS. I BELIEVE. UM I DID HEAR SOMETHING, UM, PERTAINING TO THE FACT THAT IT'S A WORKFORCE PROGRAM ASSISTANCE HOUSING. NO THERE'S YEAH. SO IF STAFF

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WOULDN'T MIND BACKING UP TO THE DEFINITION, JUST SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT WORKFORCE HOUSING IS AS DEFINED IN THE CODE. UM IT'S NOT A NECESSARILY A PROGRAM OR ANY ASSISTANCE. IT'S A RESIDENTIAL UNIT THAT AN OWNER CAN OFFER UP FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES, SO THEY STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH RESIDENTIAL USES AND ALL OF THAT , AND IT'S TO ATTEND OR BE A PART OF VOCATIONAL OCCUPATIONAL TRAINING OR WORK FOR A PERIOD. UM NOT LESS THAN SIX MONTHS. AND SO YOU YOU, YOU'LL SEE HERE IN THAT THAT'S THE ACTUAL DEFINITION TAKEN FROM MHM THERE.

THAT'S THE ACTUAL DEFINITION TAKEN FROM THE CODE OF ORDINANCES LESS THAN SIX MONTHS.

I'M SORRY, OK, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER FACILITIES LIKE THIS IN DUNCANVILLE? YES, THERE ARE OTHER CI. THERE ARE OTHER RESIDENTIAL USES OF, UH, OWNER OCCUPIED IN, UH, OF UNITS THAT HAVE COME IN AND REQUESTED THIS. AND THIS. THIS THIS BODY HAS CONSIDERED THAT REQUEST. AND IN SOME INSTANCES, GRANTED AND OTHERS NOT, BUT YES. BECAUSE WHERE WE LIVE IS A REALLY WOODED , UH, QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE SELECTED THIS AREA. I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CARS IN THAT AREA ACROSS THE STREET. UM, IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. UM, THEY HAVE A LOT OF PARKING UP HIGHER. WHERE THE I GUESS THE GARAGE APARTMENTS ARE BUT IN THE LOWER AREA AREA, THERE'S BEEN CARS AS WELL. AND I JUST HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT PEOPLE COMING IN AND WHEN I LOOKED IT UP IN THE ON GOOGLE. IT REFERRED TO THIS. UM UH, WORK. WORKFORCE IT BEING SOME TYPE OF A NOMAD. WORKERS AND AS FAR AS, UM, TRAVELING AND, UM THAT THEY SHOULD BE GIVING GIVEN CONSIDERATION FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, HOUSING BECAUSE THEIR WORKFORCE AND YOU KNOW, AND THEY NEED PLACES TO LIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE TRAVELING. WELL I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, UM PEOPLE THAT, UM MAYBE TRAVELING TO DO THEIR JOB BECAUSE, UM, I HAD AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED TO ME, UH, IN PARTICULAR. UM MY DAUGHTER, UM, WAS IN A CAR ACCIDENT AND WE WERE LIVING. SHE WAS IN COLORADO AND HAD A HEAD ON COLLISION AND THAT PARTICULAR INCIDENT. SHE HAD TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL, AND THERE WAS AN, UM A TEMPORARY NURSE ON STAFF THAT TOOK CARE OF HER AND REFUSED TO GIVE HER HER MEDICATION AND SHE WENT ALL NIGHT AFTER HAVING MADE MAJOR SURGERY. EXCUSE ME, AND, UM, WHEN WE WHEN THE DOCTOR FOUND OUT THE NEXT DAY, HE WAS LIVID ANYWAY, TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE IS IN A YOU KNOW, A PROFESSION THAT SOUNDS WONDERFUL. A NURSE IS ASSOCIATION. YOU KNOW THAT TYPE OF THING DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS OR ISSUES AS WELL. SO SOMEONE COULD BE YOU KNOW, A DRUG ADDICT OR, YOU KNOW , A OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF BACKGROUND CHECKS. YOU KNOW. WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THIS PROPERTY BEFORE. FOR AN I GUESS IT WAS LIKE A B AND B. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M I'M YES, I. I APPRECIATE AND I. I WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME LATITUDE BECAUSE WE HAD SOME EXCHANGE. UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE OUT OF TIME. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS, AND THE COMMISSION WILL BEAR THOSE IN MIND. AND IN DELIBERATION OF THIS AGENDA ITEM. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? UM, HERE DESIRING TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS APPLICATION FOR AN SUP. BEING? NO IS THERE ANYONE HERE SPEAKING? WANNA SPEAK ON? THIS MATTER. ALRIGHT. IT IS SEVEN. 28 AND I HEREBY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM IS IT WAS I TAKE NOTICE? 728 IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION CLOSE? THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR. RODRIGUEZ. IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS, ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR. I IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MATTER? SORRY. HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE VOTING IN PAPERS SAY A SAME SIGN.

MOTION CARRIES THE PUBLIC HEARING STANDS CLOSED ON THIS ITEM AT 728 IN THE EVENING. IS THERE A MOTION. IT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF. OK, COMMISSIONER W QUESTION FOR STAFF. THIS ONE.

YOU THE MICRO. UM MY QUESTION IS THE USE OF THE TERM TEMPORARY WORKFORCE HOUSING. WE'VE SHORT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS AND, UM, THINKING THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE SEEN THIS PARTICULAR WORDING. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? YES MA'AM. AND SO WE DID BRING A, UM I BELIEVE

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IT ACTUALLY CAME TO THIS BODY TO BE APPROVED BEFORE GOING TO COUNCIL, BUT WE BROUGHT AN ORDINANCE TO THE COUNCIL. UH TO APPROVE FOR THIS SPECIFIC TEMPORARY WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHEREAS A SHORT TERM RENTAL IS I BELIEVE THE MAX IS 30 NIGHTS, SO THERE WOULD BE THE IDEA BEING THAT ANYTHING UP TO 30 NIGHTS MIGHT BE CONSIDERED MORE OF SOMEBODY AS A VACATION HOME OR USING IT FOR A PURPOSE OTHER THAN THEY INTEND TO BE IN TOWN FOR A WHILE, WORKING, WHEREAS THIS, UH YOU GOT. THEY HAVE TO BE THERE MORE THAN 30 NIGHTS, BUT THEY CAN'T BE THERE. UM, LONGER THAN SIX MONTHS. SO IT LENDS ITSELF MORE TO THAT CONTRACT LABOR THAT MIGHT BE COMING THROUGH. AND, UM THANK THANK YOU, MR KEYS. AND COMMISSIONER WYNN. UM I DON'T KNOW IF WE RECALL IT'S BEEN ABOUT MAYBE THREE MONTHS AGO. I BELIEVE WE AMENDED IT WAS IN THE WINTER, WE AMENDED THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO ALLOW FOR, UM THIS USE. IT WAS A TEXT AMENDMENT.

UM, THAT CAME BEFORE US, AND I THINK WE WORKSHOPPED IT OUT. AND I HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS ASKING ABOUT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND WHAT'S SHORT TERM? UH, WHAT'S THE STR? UM AND SO WHAT I LEARNED IN THIS IS JUST AS PRECISELY WITH MR KEY SAID, IS THAT THIS HAS A DIFFERENT INTENT, BUT IT'S MORE SO TIED TO THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO TIE IT BACK TO VOCATIONAL. OCCUPATIONAL UM, NEEDS AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE THINK ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE MINE TYPICALLY GOES TO AIRBNBS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WHICH ARE MORE RECREATIONAL OR VACATION, ALL TO MAKE UP A WORD IN A SENSE, WHEREAS THIS WOULD BE COMPANIES OR THINGS BRINGING PEOPLE INTO THE CITY AND TIED TO SO IT WOULD BE A LONGER TERM. IT IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S IT SPLITS THE DIFFERENCE, AND THIS IS WHAT STAFF EXPLAINED TO ME. IF I'M RECALLING CORRECTLY, IT SPLITS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN I. I CAN I CAN RENT MY HOME TO SOMEONE HERE FOR A WORK PURPOSE UNDER THIS CODE AND NOT HAVE TO ENTER INTO A SIX MONTH LEASE AGREEMENT. BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT FALLS OUT. UM SO THAT THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SHARE THAT BECAUSE WE ALLOWED FOR THIS ISSUE WITHIN OUR WITHIN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. AND SO NOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SUBSEQUENT CASES. I'M ASKING FOR SUCH A USE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS? I. I HAVE A QUESTION. UH, MR KEYS ON THE REGULATING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVING AN SP, BASED UPON THE APPLICANTS. APPLICATION WHICH HE IS NOT HERE. I HAVE NO WAY OF QUESTIONING. WHAT HE'S REALLY GONNA DO HOW MANY SQUARE FEET THE HOME IS. HOW MANY OCCUPANTS ARE GONNA BE THERE? UH YOU KNOW, HOW IS THAT GONNA IMPACT THE AREA? IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS I HAVE IN MY MIND. UH THAT I WISH THE APPLICANT WOULD BE HERE TO RESPOND. BUT AS FAR AS THE REGULATION OF ENFORCING THESE IS BASED UPON AN HONOR SYSTEM ON THE APPLICANT'S BEHALF TO THE JURISDICTION IS THAT? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DEPEND ON? NO SIR IN FACT THE THERE'S A REPORT SUBMITTED ANNUALLY. SO WHILE NOT EVERY SIX MONTHS OR QUARTERLY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT YOU WOULDN'T GET A STAFF WOULD GET AN ANNUAL REPORT NUMBER OF NIGHTS IT WAS RENTED AS A TEMPORARY WORKFORCE HOUSING THEY DO HAVE TO PROVIDE, UH PROPERTY INSURANCE, AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO PAY THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, AND THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT ALL OF THAT TO STAFF.

THANK YOU, MR CASE. APPRECIATE IT, SIR. COMMISSIONER WYNN. ARE THERE ANY, UH, PARTICULAR RESTRICTIONS AS FAR AS HOW MANY, UM UH, OCCUPANTS. AND LIVE IN A FACILITY IN A HOUSE OR A ROOM.

BASED ON THE AREA, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE SIZE BECAUSE I COULD I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE AND YOU MAYBE RENT TWO PEOPLE IN THERE. THAT COULD BE SIX. I MEAN, IS THERE A NUMBER ARE WE ARE THERE ANY REGULATIONS THAT RESTRICT HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU CAN RENT YOUR PLACE OUT? AT ONE TIME. I AM. NOT CERTAIN OF THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE AND I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER FOR STAFF. BUT I DON'T THINK THE ORDINANCE PROVIDES FOR SUCH A LIMITATION WITH THE WHAT WE AMENDED THE TEXT, LIKE KIND OF LIKE WE DID WITH THE NATURE

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PRESERVE. UH WE ALLOW FOR SUCH A USE TO EXIST WITHIN, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THAT, AND SO IF I THINK IF WE WANTED TO GET UM, AS PRESCRIPTIVE AS YOU KNOW HOW MUCH FOR AREA COULD BE USED FOR RENTAL ANY PARK? YOU KNOW SUCH PARKING REQUIREMENTS? UM WE WOULD HAVE, I THINK HAD TO CONTEMPLATE THAT IN IN THE TEXT. UM, BUT WHAT WE DID, WAS IT ALLOWED FOR THE USE BASED ON BASED ON THOSE PARA METERS. AND YEAH, GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS SO I. I NOTICED THAT ONE OF THE CONDITIONS SAYS THAT THE PROPERTY MUST CONTINUE TO BE IN GOOD STANDING BY NOT HAVING OUTSTANDING ISSUES RELATED TO CODE COMPLIANCE PROVISIONS. ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC CODE COMPLIANCE PROVISIONS THAT MAY INDIRECTLY. UM IN FACT, THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS BE IT PARKING BE IT, UH, I COULDN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING ELSE AS AN EXAMPLE. WELL YEAH, I THERE.

THERE THERE IS ACTUALLY THERE. UM, THERE IS A RESTRICTION ON THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT CAN BE PARKED AT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. UH, I DO NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S BETWEEN FOUR HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN BE IN THE HOME? THEY'RE THERE. THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY. I MEAN, SO THE HOME STILL HAS TO COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCES OF BEING A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT. UM BUT WHERE IT WOULD NOT ORDINARILY COMPLY WITH A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IF THAT THE OWNER WAS ABSENT. AND YOU HAD A PERSON HERE WITHIN THE T THE CONFINES OF WHAT WE'VE DEFINED IT IN THE IN THE CHART OF USES AND SO NOW WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS OK. WE'RE GONNA LET WHATEVER 103 SOUTH CAPRI. EXISTS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AS A WORKFORCE HOUSING UNIT SUBJECT TO ALL OF THESE CONDITIONS, MEANING THAT IF YOU GET COMPLAINTS AND THAT IT CAN BE REMOVED WITH THREE SUBSTANTIATED COMPLAINTS THAT IF YOU MUST BE IN GOOD ST, YOU MUST PAY YOUR TAXES AND NOT HAVE ANY OVERGROWN GRASS WEEDS. UM INOPERABLE CARS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE ORDINARILY CONSIDER TO BE CODE NUISANCES, UM WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SO WHAT? ALL THOSE CONDITIONS MUST BE MET AND THE THING ABOUT US SPECIAL USE PERMIT, AND THE THING I CONTINUE TO KIND OF PREACH IS THAT'S THE ONLY TOOL WE HAVE IN PLANNING AND ZONING THAT ALLOWS US TO BRING A USE BACK INTO ACCOUNT. UM WITHOUT JUST CARTE BLANCHE GIV GIVING AWAY UM, THE ZONING. AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT SPECIAL USE PERMITS, PARTICULARLY WHEN SOMETHING WE'VE NOT DONE BEFORE, AND WE MAYBE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS IS WHAT'S A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME BASED ON WHAT'S UN ALLOWABLE USE WITHIN THE CODE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, LET'S THIS BACK AND SEE HOW IT'S PERFORMING. UM IT MAY BE PERFORMING EXCEPTIONALLY WELL, UM, BUT 10 3 MAY PERFORM WELL, BUT MM MAYBE NOT 822 SHERILL, SO WE DON'T. I MEAN, YOU KNOW YOU I MEAN, SO I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION. WE HAVE TO KIND OF BALANCE OUT AND SO HOPEFULLY, THAT'S HELPFUL. SO PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS RIGHT TIME. UM I LIKE THE FACT THAT IN THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS SPECIFIC AS FAR AS THREE SUBSTANTIATED COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS FOR EXCESSIVE NOISE, SO THAT'S SPECIFIC. THE PROPERTY MUST CONTINUE TO BE IN GOOD STANDING SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE MORE VAGUE, SO MAYBE THERE'S UM WORDING, UH, THAT WE COULD IN GOOD STANDING, AND IT CLARIFIES BY NOT HAVING A ANY OUTSTANDING ISSUES RELATED TO TAXES OR COMPLIANCE. BUT IF YOU'RE A REPEAT OFFENDER FOR CODE COMPLIANCE IF YOU REPEAT OFFENDER FOR THE SAME CODE COMPLIANCE THAT, LIKE YOU WERE NOT IN GOOD STANDING, THEN YOU WERE CORRECTED IN YOU'RE IN GOOD STANDING, AND THEN IF IT'S A REPEAT OFFENDER, ID I MY THOUGHT IS SOME MORE WEIGHT. SO IF YOU KEEP IF WE KEEP HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM AND YOU'VE ADDRESSED IT ONCE ON THE THIRD TIME IT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM AGAIN. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME CODE COMPLIANCE. RIGHT BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE AVAILED THEMSELVES TO THE CODE COMPLIANCE. I MEAN, IF SOMEONE BRINGS IN A CO COMPLIANCE COMPLAINT, THAT CODE COMPLIANCE ISSUE MUST BE CURED OR REMEDIED. JUST VIS A VIS CODE . SO LET HE HERE'S WHAT I'M SAYING, SAY, A 24 MONTH PERIOD.

THE PREVIOUS IS WHAT THE PREVIOUS BULLET POINT LIST AND A 24 MONTH PERIOD IF THERE'S A CODE COMPLIANCE FOR PARKING THREE TIMES. AND THEY'VE ADDRESSED IT THREE TIMES. THEN IN MY SATISFACTORILY SATISFACTORILY THREE TIMES AND MY OPINION YOU'RE REPEAT OFFENDER WHO AND SO IF YOU'RE A REPEAT OFFENDER, IT SHOULD BE. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, REMOVE

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THIS SUP. I. I TAKE NOTE OF YOUR COMMENT. OK? WISHES ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. ON THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT. UM I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE WE'VE DONE THAT COMMISSIONS IS OUR MOTION. UM ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE. OH, HERE. GO AHEAD. I. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS, UM UM, REQUEST BEFORE THE COMMISSION. MISSION TO WIN. I'M ENTITLED TO SECOND YEAR MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM. WOULD YOU BE OPEN AND AMENABLE TO AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT, YOU KNOW TO REVIEW UM, THAT WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK IN TO ASCERTAIN SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT ARE GERMANE TO EITHER BEING A NEW USE. UM I MOVE THAT THE, UH MY PREVIOUS, UH, MOTION BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE A TWO YEAR PERIOD. A SECOND THAT UM UM COMMISSIONERS A RE THERE. COMMENTS ON THIS MOTION. UM, MY ONE AND ONLY COMMENT. I THINK A JERMAINE TO MY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO COMMISSIONER WYNN'S , UH, MOTION IS THAT WE HAVE ALLOWED FOR THIS USE, UM, TO GO FORWARD. I THINK THAT WE HAVE, UM CON RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS THAT WILL BE ADOPTED A PART OF THIS EMOTION THAT ALLOWS US TO MONITOR UM THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS SUP. I THINK DOUBLING DOWN ON THAT BY DOING THIS FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD. IT WON'T ALLOW THE YOUTH TO P, YOU KNOW, PERSIST ON WITHOUT US BEING ABLE TO OR WHOEVER SUCCEEDS AS BEING ABLE TO TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT THIS OR PUTTING THE RESPONSIBILITY BACK ON THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK FORWARD AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WORKING. THIS IS HOW IT ISN'T OR OR OR NOT, AND SO, UM, THAT THAT'S THAT'S MY AMENDMENT. SO UM ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD. SAY I AYE. ANY OPPOSE? MOTION KEY AREAS. ITEM

[6. Conduct a public hearing (2024-09) for consideration and action regarding the request of Stuart and Ruth Carlson, applicants and property owners, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) to allow for the use “Temporary Workforce Housing” on Irwin Keasler Dev Red Bird 5, Pt Lot 6, more commonly known as 822 Sherrill Boulevard, Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]

NUMBER S. SIX. DOCTOR PUBLIC HEARING. 24-09 FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REGARDING THE REQUEST OF STEWART AND RUTH CARLSON, APPLICANTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE USE TEMPORARY WORKFORCE HOUSING ON IRWIN KEISLER DEVELOPMENT REDBIRD FIVE. POINT LOT SIX MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 822. CHERYL BOULEVARD, DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE HERE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST ? UH THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION FOR TEMPORARY WORKFORCE HOUSING UNIT MUCH SIMILAR. YES, IF YOU WOULD IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD TO GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOUR QUESTION FOR THE RECORD. I HATE TO BE SO PROCEDURAL, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERY EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IS IF YOU COME DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE TO GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS. I HAVE A QUESTION, REGARDLESS TO THE LETTER. PLEASE GIVE YOUR SIR DRESS FOR THE RECORD. I'M SO SORRY. SEVEN CHERYL BOULEVARD, DUNCANVILLE. UM, WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED? GO AHEAD ON THE LETTER . IT STATES THAT IF YOU OPPOSE THE ZONING REQUEST, HOWEVER, THE ATTACHED SURVEY MUST BE COMPLETED AND RETURNED BY MAY 7TH. TO FULFILL LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR WRITTEN FORMAL PROTEST. SO DOES THAT MEAN I CAN STILL COMPLETE THIS AND SUBMIT IT AND IT WILL BE REVIEWED IF IT'S STILL IN YOUR POSSESSION. YOU HAVE MISSED YOUR DEADLINE TO SUBMIT BACK YOUR WRITTEN PROTEST . THE NOTICE OF THAT THAT MEANS THAT IF YOU RECEIVED THAT NOTICE , THAT MEANS THAT YOU'RE WITHIN THE 200 FT REQUIRED NOTICE AREA. IT APPEARS THAT THE DATE IS FOR TUESDAY, MAY 7TH WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE UH, NORMAL MEETING FOR THIS COMMISSION. RATHER THAN HAVING YOUR, UH COMING IN BY TODAY'S DATE. SO THEY'RE THE DATE ON HER LETTER AND I CAN BRING IT UP TO THE DAY IS APPEARS TO BE TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, UM OKAY, LET ME LET ME TAKE NOTICE OF

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THIS.

ALL RIGHT. WE ASKED ME YOUR QUESTION. ASK ME YOUR QUESTION AGAIN. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. GO AHEAD. THE RETURN DATE TO SUBMIT THE OPPOSITION BY MAY 7TH. YES, MA'AM, YOU DO HAVE INTO MAY 7TH. YOU WERE NOTICED YOU WERE IN THE AS I WAS GETTING READY TO STATE. YOUR THAT YOU YOU'RE IN RECEIPT OF THAT NOTICE BECAUSE YOU'RE WITHIN THE 200 FT NOTICE AREA OF THE PROPOSAL ZONING REQUEST. AND SO MY ADVICE HERE THIS EVENING WILL BE THAT YOU COMPLETE AND COMPLY WITH IF YOU HAVE WRITTEN PROTEST WITH THE ZONING REQUEST.

UM AS NOTICED THAT YOU SUBMIT YOUR YOU KNOW YOUR YOUR YOUR WRITTEN PROTESTS AS DETAILED AND INSTRUCTED WITHIN THAT NOTICE WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO DO IN RESPONSE IS THAT WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO HOLD THIS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AFTER OUR MAY 7TH OR UNTIL OUR MAY 7TH MEETING. UM IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROPERLY NOTICED. UM THIS PARTICULAR ZONING REQUESTS FOR ESPECIALLY USE PERMIT. I DID SEE WHEN THEY STARTED THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ZONING AREA, UM, THAT THERE WAS A NOTICE ABOUT HOW MANY OPPOSITION LETTERS THEY HAVE RECEIVED BACK AND APPROVALS. AND ONE OPPOSITION LETTER HAD BEEN RECEIVED AND NO APPROVALS. SURE STAND TRUE AS OF TODAY. IS THAT ACCURATE? WHAT WILL WOUND UP HAPPENING IS IF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT ME WITH THIS MOTION IS WHAT IT WILL ALLOW. IS THAT ANYTHING THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED PRIOR TO AS WELL AS BEFORE WE GET TO MAY 7TH CAN ALL BE COMPILED. SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE A EVERYONE WITHIN THE NOTICE AREA HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLY BY MAY 7TH. AND THAT WE CAN TAKE NOTICE OF ANY OPPOSITION OR ANY OF THOSE THAT ARE IN FAVOR AS NOT TO HAVE TO RESTART EVERYTHING OVER AGAIN. I'M NOT, UM, WRONG IN THINKING THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO SUBMIT THEIR LETTERS. CORRECT SO IF THERE ARE OTHERS WITHIN THE 200 FT NOTICE AREA, THAT'S WHY I WANT TO WAIT UNTIL MAY 7TH WHICH IS OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE NOTICE OF ANY AND ALL PERSPECTIVES AS IT RELATES TO, UM, THIS IS ZONING REQUEST FOR S YOU PEOPLE WORKFORCE HOUSING AT 822 SHARELL. THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST SURPRISED WHEN EVERYBODY VOTED, AND WE STILL HAD UNTIL MAY 7TH TO GET HER OPPOSITION LETTERS IN SO AS WELL AS LONG AS I'M UNDERSTANDING. THAT I STILL HAVE TO MY SEVENTH AND THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WITHIN THAT 200 FT AREA FROM THAT LOCATION. STILL HAVE TIME TO SUBMIT THEIR OPPOSITION LETTERS ARE APPROVALS. YES GO. THANK YOU HAVE A QUESTION. I THINK I THINK COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO ON THE LETTER THAT YOU BROUGHT IS THAT FOR THE PROPERTY AT 103 SOUTH DRIVE. IT'S FOR THE PROPERTY AT 822, AND SO THAT THE VOTING WE DID EARLIER FOR IT WAS FOR THE 103 SOUTH CAPRI DRIVE ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I WAS HEARING TWO DIFFERENT ADDRESSES. COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS WE JUST YES, IF I MAY. WE JUST TOOK ACTION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH WAS FOR ONE OR THREE SOUTH CAPRI, RIGHT? AH WHICH WHICH A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY SPOKE ON. WE YOU KNOW, WE TOOK NOTICE OF, UM HOWEVER, I THINK SHE'S MOST CONCERNED ABOUT 20 TO 22 CHERYL. I THINK SHE'S MOST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO DO IS TO HOLD THIS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL MAY 7TH WHERE WE CAN ALLOW THOSE WHO ARE WHO ARE MUCH SIMILAR TO OUR SPEAKER THIS EVENING TO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO REGISTER THEIR COMMENTS, 11 WAY OR ANOTHER. YES, WE HAVE

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ACTUALLY. THREE TONIGHT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THREE. WE HAVE THREE PROPERTIES REQUESTING THE SAME ZONING DESIGNATION. AND SO THUS, YES. YES AT DIFFERENT ADDRESSES. YES YES, MA'AM, WAS YOUR OPPOSITION THAT WAS SPOKEN EARLIER. WAS IT FOR THE 103 SOUTH CAPRI SPEAKING FOR THE SHERIFF? YES, MA'AM. SHARE, OKAY? MY TWENTIES. THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK I'M I'M CLEAR, MISTER. MISTER KEYS, ARE YOU I DID HAVE ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. SO ARE A COUPLE OF POINTS NUMBER ONE, THE BELIEVE MAY 7TH IS ACTUALLY COUNCIL MEETING NIGHT. UM AND THIS LETTER IS ACTUALLY FOR THE NOTICE THAT WAS GIVEN FOR THE APRIL 8TH MEETING THAT DID NOT HAVE QUARREL. AND SO I BELIEVE WHAT MR WARREN WAS PROBABLY DOING WAS ALLOWING THE PEOPLE WHO RECEIVED THIS LETTER TO HAVE SUFFICIENT NOTICE THAT PRIOR TO MAY, 7TH WHEN THIS ITEM WOULD COME TO THE COUNCIL UM THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TIME TO REGISTER THEIR CONCERNS BEFORE IT GOT TO THE COUNCIL. HOWEVER MR WARREN SHOULD HAVE, AND I BELIEVE HE DID BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN IT FOR A PREVIOUS ITEM TONIGHT SENT OUT NEW NOTICES THAT HAD THE CORRECT DATES, NOT DATES LISTED ON THIS LETTER. SO LET ME ASK MORE SIMPLY. FOR THIS ITEM THAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT. HAS IT BEEN NOTICED? AND HAVE WE RECEIVED OUR REPLIES WITHIN THE DESIGNATED NOTICE AREA. AND I CANNOT END HONESTLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS, SO PERHAPS IT WOULD BE ADVISABLE THAN IF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD CONSIDER A MOTION. REGARDLESS OF THAT NOTICE. MAYBE YOU MAYBE.

WELL, MAYBE I'LL NOTICE FOR COUNCIL AND I'LL AND I'LL SAY SOMETHING A BIT ABOUT THAT TO CLARIFY. WE WERE REQUIRED TO GIVE NOTICE OF THE SAME SORT. WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THIS BODY AS WELL AS WELL, BEFORE IT COMES BEFORE COUNCIL. SO, MR KEYES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. AND IT COMES IN. IT COMES FROM THE SAME DEPARTMENT FROM PLANNING AND SOUNDING. AND SO SOMETIMES WE'RE NOTICING FOR P AND Z. SOMETIMES WE'RE NOTICING FOR COUNCIL AND SO PERHAPS IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, THE NOTICE IN YOUR HAND IS SLATED FOR MAY 7TH COUNCIL MEETING. UM WHICH THEN WHICH CHANGE WHAT I SAID, BUT BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW. AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE AT A DISADVANTAGE AND WE DON'T HAVE STAFF HERE TO ANSWER IT. AND BEING A FELLOW, UM, CIVIL SERVANT PUBLIC SERVICE EMPLOYEE. UM THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK. WE DO JUST OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND JUST ALLOWING PEOPLE IF WE CAN'T REALLY ASCERTAIN WHETHER OR NOT THAT HAPPENED TONIGHT, I'M A CHAIR. IF YOU'RE GOING TO ENTERTAIN THAT ON THIS ITEM I BELIEVE ITEMS 56 AND SEVEN ARE ALL THE SAME. AND WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE SAME NOTICE. HOWEVER I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVEN'T NOTICED ISSUE I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. WE'LL SEE. I TAKE NOTE OF THAT? I DON'T KNOW. OKAY? ALRIGHT NEIGHBORHOOD NOTE. THAT'S WHAT I WANT. HOW WILL I LET MY NEIGHBORS THAT I TALKED TO. EVERY PERSON WITHIN THE NOTICE AREA SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN POSSESSION OF THE SAME NOTICE. A UH AS WELL AS I DID SO THAT THEY HAVE UNTIL MAY, 7 WELL, THAT'S THE NOTICE. AND SO I THINK THE ADVICE AT THIS POINT IS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SUPPOSE I AM STAFF TO SAY ANYTHING DIFFERENT. BUT IF YOU HAVE NOTICED THAT YOU HAVE UNTIL MAY 7TH TO RETURN THAT ITEM. OR YOUR FAVOR. CAN I SEE THAT ONE MORE TIME? I'M SO SORRY. IT'S BEING RECORDED. IT'S BEING RECORDED, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. IT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM IT SHOULD BE BEING BROADCAST BY SWAG IT RIGHT NOW. IT SHOULD BE AND THIS IS BEING RECORDED. AND HERE'S WHAT I'LL SAY. TO MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL. THIS LETTER FROM PLANNING AND ZONING ON THIS PARTICULAR YOUR NEIGHBORS, UM, WERE PLACED ON NOTICE THAT WE WOULD TAKE THIS ITEM UP ON APRIL 8TH. AND THAT WOULD BE HEARD BY COUNCIL ON MAY 7TH. OKAY SO I'M SATISFIED WITH TAKING NOTE THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE

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NOTICED. THIS CASE. I'M SAYING. HOWEVER I'M SATISFIED TO TELL YOU THAT IF YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO STILL HAVE OPPOSITION. TO THIS SOUNDING QUEST. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE THIS ON THE COUNCIL. YOU HAVEN'T TO MAKE YOU HAVEN'T TO MAY 7TH. YOUR YOUR NEIGHBORS HAVEN'T TO MAY 7TH IN ORDER TO RETURN THAT LETTER AND LET CITY COUNCIL KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. YEAH. YOUR NAME HOW YOU FEEL THIS IS TO PLACE YOU WILL NOTICE THAT WE WERE GONNA HEAR THIS ORIGINALLY ON APRIL 8TH, AND THAT'S THE MEETING FOR WHICH WE DID NOT HAVE QUORUM TONIGHT. WE DO HAVE QUORUM, AND SO I'M GOING TO TAKE BACK EVERYTHING I SAID NEXT, MY COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER THIS REQUEST. UM TAKING NOTE THAT YES , YOU AND YOUR NEIGHBOR STILL HAVING TO MAY 7TH TO SUBMIT YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR COUNCIL, UM, TO CONSIDER THEM AND THAT'S WHY THE SLIDE IN TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION TAKES A NOTE OF HOW MANY MAILINGS WERE SENT OUT IN FAVOR. HOW MANY ROUTES RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION WHICH WERE WHICH WAS THE HOW YOU STARTED THE QUESTION. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO HELP ME. UM SURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? UM, COMMISSIONERS FOR STAFF ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS REQUESTING A TEMPORARY WORKFORCE HOUSING ISSUE. P FOR PROPERTY MORE COMMONLY KNOWN IN 822, CHERYL BOULEVARD AND DUNCANVILLE. ALRIGHT I 756 IN THE EVENING I HAD UM ENTERTAIN A MOTION CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WIN.

THANKS, COMMISSIONER. COLUMBUS ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR OF CLOSE TO PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE SAY AYE. ALL THE POSE. MOTION CARRIES. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOTION THAT WE ADD AN AMENDMENT FOR THIS TO BE A TWO YEAR LIMIT ON THE S U P COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS HAD YOUR EMOTION IS TO APPROVE FOR LIVING IT TO A TWO YEAR PERIOD. SUBJECT TO REVIEW. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION OUR SECOND THAT MOTION? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVORITE POLICE SAY I MOTION

[7. Conduct a public hearing (2024-10) for consideration and action regarding the request of Stuart and Ruth Carlson, applicants and property owners, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) to allow for the use “Temporary Workforce Housing” on River Oaks, Block K, Lot 5, more commonly known as 350 Linklea Drive, Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]

CARRIES. I HAVE NUMBER SEVEN. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING 20 24-10 FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REGARDING THE REQUEST OF STEWART AND RUTH CARLSON, APPLICANTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE USE TEMPORARY WORKFORCE. HOUSING ON RIVER OAKS BLOCK A LOT FIVE MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 350. LINK LAY DRIVE DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. THANK YOU.

PROVISION IN QUESTION FOR STAFF ON THIS ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE? 27 58 AND I HEAR ABOUT OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE HERE DESIRE TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST? UM, THIS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. TAKE NO NOTE OF ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS. IT IS 758. UH UM, IN IN THE EVENING, AND I'LL ENTERTAIN EMOTIONAL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WIN. IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. POLICE SAY AYE SEIN MOTION CARRIES. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I HAVE NUMBER SEVEN. A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH A TWO YEAR LIMIT. AS THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE FOR TWO YEAR LIMIT. 72 REVIEWS THEIR SECOND TO COMMISSIONER COLUMBUS'S MOTION SECOND. THAT ONE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NO DISCUSSION. UM ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR TO APPROVE. I HAVE NUMBER 742 YEAR PERIOD. PLEASE SAY I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I AM NUMBER EIGHT. MR

[8. Conduct a public hearing (2024-11) for consideration and action regarding the request of The Dimension Group, applicant, representing Duncanville Associates LLC, owner, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) to allow for the use “Fuel Pumps” on Block 1, Lot 1, Amalgamated Properties Addition, more commonly known as 615 South Cockrell Hill Road, Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]

KEYES. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING 24-11 FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REGARDING THE REQUEST OF THE DIMENSION GROUP APPLICANT REPRESENTING DUNCANVILLE ASSOCIATES LLC, OWNER FOR A

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SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE USE FUEL PUMPS ON BLOCK ONE LOT ONE AMALGAMATED PROPERTIES EDITION MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 615, SOUTH COCKROACH HILL ROAD, DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. OKAY, SO WE HAVE THE REQUEST FOR FUEL PUMPS. UM USED PARTLY OR ENTIRELY FOR STORING OR DISPENSING FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS SUCH AS GAS, USUALLY FOR MOTOR VEHICLES. UH SUCH USE IS PERMITTED ONLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH RETAIL OR GROCERY PRINCIPLE. USE. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION IS OPPORTUNITY AREA ONE. THE ZONING DISTRICT IS LOCAL OFFICE RETAIL.

THIS IS THE LOCATION HERE AT THE CORNER OF WHEATLAND AND COCKREL HILL. THEN YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING LAYER THERE OF LOCAL OFFICE RETAIL OVERLAID. NINE MAILINGS WERE SENT OUT, ZERO REPLIED IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIED IN OPPOSITION. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR HOW THE FUEL PUMPS WILL BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE THEM THERE IN THE FRONT. LITTLE MORE UP CLOSE VIEW OF HOW THE PROPERTY WILL LOOK. THIS IS A FLOOR PLAN OF THE BUILDING ITSELF. I THINK THIS IS A FRONT VIEW. AND THEN THIS IS THE PROPOSED LOOK OF THE BUILDING ONCE IT'S COMPLETED WITH THE FUEL PUMPS OUT FRONT. CONSIDERATIONS ARE SIMILAR TO THE OTHER S UPS MUST BE CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE. ARCHITECTURE AND CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, INNOVATED USE OF MODERN DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY ENHANCEMENT OR IMPROVEMENT BEYOND MINIMUM STANDARDS, NOT DETRIMENTAL TO THE GENERAL HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. STABILIZED AND IMPROVED PROPERTY VALUES. PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE CITY'S ATTRACTIVENESS TO RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, TOURISTS AND VISITORS AND WOULD STRENGTHEN AND HELP DIVERSIFY THE ECONOMY OF THIS CITY. I'M LIMIT. POSSIBILITIES AGAIN, MR WARREN RECOMMENDATION. ON THE SCREEN THERE. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. UM I THINK YOU WENT THROUGH IT. BUT BEFORE WE GET TO QUESTION THE STAFF, YOU ALSO WENT OVER THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THIS. IT DID HAVE A LANDSCAPE PLAN. I DID RECALL. YES, OKAY. OKAY, SO THAT WOULD BE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE CORNERS OF WHEAT. LET THEM CONCRETE, OKAY? COMMISSIONS. ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR RODRIGUEZ KEYS THAT I GUESS THAT'S THE OLD PREVIOUS CBS.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. QUESTIONS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST, UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. IF YOU PLEASE COME DOWN AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, UM YOU RAISE YOUR HAND OUT ON FOR AGAINST AGAINST, OKAY. ANYONE WANTING TO SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM? COME ON DOWN. I'M READY FOR YOU.

NO, NO. IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU CAN BRING YOUR TWO MINUTE COMMENTS.

PATRICIA EBERT, 115 SOUTH GREENSTONE 75116. I AM OPPOSED TO FUEL PUMPS AT THE FORMER CVS.

THERE'S JUST TOO MANY GAS STATIONS DOWN THERE. I DROVE RICE TRACK ACROSS THE STREET, YOU ALL THEY HAVE A NICE CREAM BAR. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO COMPETE AGAINST AN ICE CREAM BAR AND THEN DOWN THE STREET TOWARDS COCHRAN HILL, 67. THERE'S THREE ACUTE ES 711 AND A CIRCLE K.

THEN YOU GO THE OTHER DIRECTION TOWARD CAMP WISDOM. THERE IS A SHAMROCK IT GANNON AND EXXON AND CHEVRON AT CAMP WISDOM. WELCOME THE DIMENSION GROUP TO DUNCANVILLE TO COME RENOVATED BUILDING FOR US. JUST NOT A GESTATION. THANK YOU, MR BRUNI. ANYONE ELSE DESIRE MISTAKE AGAINST HIS APPLICATION? IF YOU PLEASE COME DOWN AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THAT YOU

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MAY BEGIN YOUR TOO MANY COMMENTS. HI. MY NAME IS AMELIA ROBLETO. I LIVE AT 911 EISENHOWER DRIVE IN DUNCANVILLE, TEXAS. I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND US. THE OLD CBS BUILDING AND IF YOU DRIVE THE VIEW, GO IN THAT AREA WITHIN HALF A MILE RADIUS. LIKE THE LADY SAID, YOU HAVE RACETRACK YOU HAVE Q T YOU HAVE 711 YOU HAVE CIRCLE K AND WE'RE GETTING A JOVI'S JOVI'S GROCERY STORES OPENING UP. WITHIN HALF A MILE RADIUS. WHY DO WE NEED ANOTHER GAS STATION? IT'S NOT NEEDED. I WELCOME THE GROUP. I WOULD LOVE A DIFFERENT OPTION FOR THIS LOCATION. NO MORE CONVENIENT STORES. NO GAS STATIONS, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE DESIRE TO SPEAK ON FOUR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT SEEING NONE AND HEARING NINE. IT IS 805. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF CLOSE TO PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER . COLUMBUS. IS THERE A 2ND 2ND? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING 805. PLEASE SAY AYE AYE SEIN MOTION CARRIES THE PUBLIC HEARING STANDS CLOSED. COMMISSIONERS. IS THERE A MOTION THERE'S A QUESTION GO AHEAD. UM AND I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION. IS THERE ANY, UM REGULATION. FOR HOW MUCH THE CONCENTRATION OF GAS STATIONS NEAR MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. IS THERE ANY COMPLIANCE OR ZONING RELATED TO THAT? I'M NOT AWARE OF A DENSITY REQUIREMENT IN TERMS OF GAS STATIONS NEAR RESIDENTIAL OR OTHER GAS STATIONS. I DO KNOW THERE IS A DENSITY REQUIREMENT FOR THE WATER IS DEFINED AS SUNDRY STORES. BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS WOULD FIT THAT.

THANK YOU. OKAY, HERE'S WHAT FOR YOU. IS THERE A ORDINANCE OR ANYTHING? WITHIN THE JURISDICTION THAT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF GAS STATIONS AND DISTANCE AWAY. FROM EACH OTHER.

SORRY, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. WE SHOULD WIN. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION ALONG WITH THEIRS WOULD HAVE TO BE WHETHER OR NOT UM, THERE WAS ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS WITHIN A MIX. RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THE, UM INCREASED POLLUTION THAT WOULD BE IN THAT AREA. THE LACK OF AVAILABLE GREEN SPACE IN THAT AREA AS IT IS AND PUT ANOTHER GAS STATION THERE. I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY APPROVAL IS THE APPROVAL JUST BASED ON THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT TO BRING DOLLARS IN OR IS IT ALSO DO WE CONSIDER HOW THAT IMPACTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD? I WAS NOT THERE WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS MADE CONSIDERATION. I DO KNOW THAT, UM IT HAS GONE THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH BRINGS IN PLANNING, YOU KNOW, ALSO BRINGS IN PUBLIC WORKS AND ARE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THE FIRE MARSHAL. AND I DO KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE GROUP IN TERMS OF THE VENTING OF THE FUEL PUMPS. I'M CORRECT ON THAT. TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT UM, THAT IS DONE AS SAFELY AND AS FAR AWAY FROM THE STREET AS POSSIBLE. ONE OF ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL JUST I'LL JUST POINT OUT AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I'M JUST SAYING, WHAT'S IN OUR CHART OF USES, AND SO UM THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY, REALLY CONSIDERING IS THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO LOCATE FUEL PARTS. UM RIGHT NOW IT'S HIS OWN COMMERCIAL AND ANY USE BY RIGHT COULD GO IN. WHAT WE'RE REALLY DECIDING TODAY IS WHETHER OR NOT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME DO WE WANT TO ALLOW FOR FUEL PUMPS? BECAUSE IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, WE REQUIRE FUEL PUMPS TO BE ONLY ALLOWED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT. UM TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT AREA. THERE ARE FEW PART UH UM. RIGHT NOW THAT CAN BECOME A FAMILY DOLLAR OR OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IT WAS.

I MEAN, IT JUST COME AROUND THE CORNER. IT COULD BE A DOLLAR GENERAL. IT COULD BE ANY STORE THAT IT WANTED TO BE BY, RIGHT RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE REALLY DECIDING IS AND WHAT'S BEFORE US IS WHETHER OR NOT THE FUEL PUMPS IN THE APPLICATION, DOES IT COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS? THAT'S BEFORE YOU KNOW, KIND OF BEFORE US TODAY. UM AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T LIKE SUNDRY STORES AND UM, AND SOME CITIES, LIQUOR STORES AND DIFFERENT KINDS OF USES. YOU CAN

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THEN START TO DRILL DOWN AND SAY, ARE THERE TOO MANY IN AN AREA? UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T. WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROVISION WITHIN OUR PURVIEW TODAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY TALK ABOUT FUEL PUMPS, SO ALRIGHT. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY AREA ONE AND, UM, WHAT'S THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHAT'S THE MAN MAINLAND USE COMPONENTS FOR OPPORTUNITY? AREA ONE. I THINK IT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE HIGH QUALITY INTERSTATE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. RETAIL, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, MEDIUM OR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS THAT DO YOU HAVE A SLIDE? THAT EXPLAINS WHAT OPPORTUNITY AREA ONE IS SORRY. I DON'T MR WARREN DID NOT INCLUDE THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. COMMISSIONERS. IS THERE A MOTION. I'M NOT HEARING ONE. I WILL, UM INTERJECTED MOTION OUT I WILL PRESENT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE S U P FOR FEW PARTS FOR A PERIOD OF 10 YEAR. FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD. SUBJECT TO, UM, RENEWAL. I'D LIKE THIS SECOND AT MOTION WITH A COMMENT, AND I JUST OKAY, HOLD ON. OKAY, SECOND TO THAT MOTION. UM, COMMENTS. I THINK STAFF HAS DONE ITS HOMEWORK AND LOOKING AT, UH THE ENTIRE SCOPE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. AND I RESPECT THE CITIZENS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ANOTHER GAS STATION BEING HERE. BUT IN REALITY, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TRANSPARENCY OF THIS PROJECT AND IT'S WE'RE VOTING ON GAS PUMPS.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. WE'RE JUST THAT'S JUST THE TOPIC OF THIS WHOLE THING. WE KEPT VENTURE OUTSIDE OF THAT. AH, AND YOU KNOW THE INTER FIRED CHIEF IS HERE THAT THEY MET WITH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THE PLANNER, AND I THINK THEY THEY'VE DONE THEIR HOMEWORK.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THIS MOTION MOVE FORWARD. MISSIONS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON ON THE MOTION. COMMERCIAL COLUMBUS. UM MY COMMENT BEING THAT THIS, UM PARTICULAR BUSINESSES LOCATED IN OPPORTUNITY AREA ONE, AND IT DOES HAVE A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF GAS STATIONS. MY CONCERN IS THAT ONCE THAT ONCE THERE, THERE'S A TREND GOING IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION WILL THAT PROHIBIT OR MAKE IT HARDER TO FULFILL THE FUTURE. USE PLANS OF OPPORTUNITY AREA ONE. AND SO I'M NOT NOT, UH COMFORTABLE WITH ANOTHER GAS STATION BEING IN THE AREA WHERE THERE ARE SO MANY ALREADY THERE, AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT COULD BE USED TO DEVELOP. THAT AREA. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. I'LL SIMPLY SAY, UM AND ROUNDING OUT THE COMMENTS THAT I PRESENTED THE MOTION TO APPROVE FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD. IS BECAUSE WHAT'S BEFORE US TODAY IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR GAS PUMPS. UM WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY SITS VACANT, UM WITHOUT AN OWNER OCCUPIER OCCUPIED AND SO WHAT THIS ALLOWS US TO DO FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD IS TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW FOR GAS PUMPS TO EXIST IN COEXISTENCE WITH A GAS STATION, A CONVENIENCE STORE OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF STORE CAN MOVE INTO THIS AREA TOMORROW. UM AND IT NEVER COME BEFORE THIS BODY AND THEN THEREFORE WHETHER OR NOT IT FULLY COMPLIES OR FULFILLS THE LONG TERM VISION OPPORTUNITY ONE OR ANYPLACE ELSE. UM ALL OF THAT OPPORTUNITY WOULD EVADE US IN IN TERMS OF CONSIDERING THIS REQUEST. I THINK WE HAVE AN APPLICANT WHO HAS COME IN AND PUT TOGETHER A LANDSCAPE PLAN AN APPLICATION FOR AN ISSUE P AND THAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND IT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THE CONDITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND SAW GIVEN THE INVESTMENT, GIVING A LOCATION GIVEN THE CURRENT STATUS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND THAT IT IS REALLY AND TRULY I GATEWAY INTO THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE PROPER, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THOSE DIFFERENT GATEWAY AND ACCESS POINTS INTO THE CITY. I WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WERE CONSIDERING NOT WHETHER OR NOT THE STORY COULD EXIST, BUT WHETHER OR NOT THE USE OF A GAS PUMP SHOULD EXIST, AND I CAN LOOK JUST A REGULAR ACROSS THE STREET. AND SEE THAT USE. AND SO

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I'M I'M REALLY KIND OF HARD PRESSED TO SAY THAT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, I'M WILLING TO CONSIDER THIS AND SO WITH THAT, UH, ENTERTAIN ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE MOTION. ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR. UM THAT'S THAT'S WELL. WE DON'T NEED TO RAISE YOUR LET'S RAISE OUR HANDS, THOUGH. FOUR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO START USING BUTTONS AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO UNDO THAT. SO ALL THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ISSUE P FOR GAS PUMPS AT THIS, UM NOTICED, UM, ZONING ISSUE P ADDRESS FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD. PLEASE SAY AYE. I, TOO THREE, RIGHT? YEAH. MOTION.

I THINK I GUESS THE MOTION FAILS . UM THOSE THAT VOTING AGAINST. 2222 SO THE MOTION MOTION FAILS.

BUT WE'RE DENYING ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. I'M NUMBER NINE. AND DR PUBLIC HEARING 20 24-12 FOR

[9. Conduct a public hearing (2024-12) for consideration and action regarding the request of JM Civil, applicant, representing Vaquero Ventures, owner, for a Specific Use Permit (SUP) to allow for the use “Retail, Sundry” on Block A, Lot 3BR, Duncanville 67 Replat, more commonly known as 282 West Highway 67, Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]

CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REGARDING THE REQUEST OF J. M CIVIL APPLICANT REPRESENTING VAQUERO VINTERS, OWNER FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE USE RETAIL SUNDRY ON BLOCK A LOT THREE BR DUNCANVILLE 67 REPLACE MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS TO 82. WORST HIGHWAY. 67 DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. AND SO RETAIL SUNDRY IS DEFINED AS A RETAIL STORE, UM, COMMONLY REFERRED TO OR ADVERTISED AS A DIME OR DOLLAR STORE, SELLING VARIOUS MISCELLANEOUS SMALL ITEMS THAT ARE USUALLY OF NO LARGE VALUE AND NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO BE MENTIONED INDIVIDUALLY, SUCH AS DRY GOODS, TOILETRIES, HOUSEHOLD SUPPLIES AND PERISHABLE AND NON PERISHABLE FOOD. FUTURE LAND USE MAPS DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS RETAIL COMMERCIAL.

ZONING DISTRICT IS GENERAL OFFICE RETAIL. THIS IS THE LOCATION. YOU CAN SEE IT THERE.

IT UM, IT IS ACROSS FROM COSTCO BEHIND NAVY FEDERAL AND THERE'S THE ZONING MAP. WHAT THE ZONING OVERLAY OF GENERAL OFFICE RETAIL SHOWN. SIX MAILINGS WERE SENT OUT. ZERO REPLIED IN FAVOR, ZERO REPLIED IN OPPOSITION. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED. PRIOR TO THIS EVENING AND WOULD BECOME A PART OF THE S U P CLOSER VIEW OF THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED. AND THEN THE SAME CONSIDERATIONS FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT AS WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH THE OTHER TO THE NIGHT. AND THE TIME PERIOD POSSIBILITIES. ADDITIONAL USE REGULATIONS FOR RETAIL SUNDRY SHALL NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN 5000 FT OF ANOTHER RETAIL SUNDRY STORE, MEASURED BY THE NEAREST PROPERTY LINES. AND A MINIMUM OF 10% OF THE FLOOR AREA OF RETAIL SUNDRY STORE MUST BE DEDICATED TO FRESH PRODUCE MEAT AND DAIRY PRODUCTS AND DESIGNATED AS SUCH WITHIN AND S U P SO THIS IS THE LOCATION WITH? I BELIEVE WHAT MR WARREN HAS DONE HAS DRAWN THE 5000 SQUARE FEET. RADIUS AROUND THE PROPERTY. TO SHOW WHAT IS THEIR MOST OF IT IS. RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL WITH THE FIELDHOUSE INCLUDED IN THERE. BUT THERE DO NOT APPEAR TO BE. HE'S HIGHLIGHTED OTHER SUNDRY STORES ON THERE AND THE KIND OF LIGHT TEAL COLOR THERE SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WITHIN THE RADIUS. THERE IS NO OTHER SUNDRY STORE. THERE ARE SEVERAL AS YOU MOVE FURTHER NORTH. THERE'S THIS RECOMMENDATION THERE WITH APPLICABLE MINIMUM STANDARDS IS CALLED OUT IN SECTION 3.04 0.5 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. ALL RIGHT. NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. IT IS 819 AND WE'LL HEAR ABOUT OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER NINE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE DESIRING TO SPEAK ON POOR AGAINST? UM, THIS ITEM. IF YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE