Apr 09, 2024 City Council Special Meeting

[ CALL TO ORDER]

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ROY TIME 1800. AND WE ARE OPENING OUR PLANNING WORKSHOP. THIS IS TUESDAY, APRIL 19TH 2024 TIME STAMPS OF THE SECRETARY, SIX O'CLOCK. YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND GET UNDERWAY? UH, THIS IS A WORKSHOP. WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON TOPICS RELATED TO BOND PROJECT AND MOVEMENT PROJECTS, FUNDING STRATEGIES. AND GENERAL DISCUSSION ON THE ITEMS, OF COURSE. AND WHILE THE AGENDA DOESN'T SAY SO, ARE AN INDIVIDUAL HAS REQUESTED TO ADDRESS US, UH, WITH THE CITIZEN COMMENTS. I'LL CALL ON THAT PERSON. PATRICIA YES. PATRICIA EBERT, 115 SOUTH GREENSTONE 75.

16 SO TONIGHT. I'M ASKING FOR A LITTLE MONEY. I'M PUTTING MY FLAG IN THE STATE SO BEFORE THE BUDGET CYCLE REALLY, REALLY STARTS, I'M ASKING FOR ANOTHER CODE OFFICER NOW TO BE HIRED INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. I THINK THAT , UH, WE FOUND SOME CREATIVE FUNDING STRATEGIES UP HERE WHERE YOU TAKE EARNED INTEREST MONEY AND THEN ALSO PARTNERING WITH THE D CE DC, SINCE THE CITY MANAGER HAS RESTRUCTURED THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT. I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OUT AND ABOUT I'M SEEING THE RESULTS AND, UH, CLICKS. SEE CLIP FIX, BUT THOSE ARE JUST RESPONDING TO COMPLAINTS. I THINK WE NEED A FULL TIME CODE OF ENFORCEMENT OFFICER THAT TRAVELS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND LOOKS FOR EXISTING VIOLATIONS AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF THEM. COMMERCIALLY IN RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL DEAD TREES AND YARDS FRONT AND BACK. LOTS OF THEM CARS PARKED IN YARDS, DILAPIDATED SENSES, OPEN STORAGE, HIGH WEEDS LITTER COMMERCIAL LITTER ON THE PARKING LOT SIGNS FOR BUSINESSES LONG GONE. PASS IT, NOT MAIN STREET ANIMAL CARE CENTER BEEN CLOSED FOR TWO YEARS. BIG BLUE SIGN ON THE PARKING LOT. IT WAS SIGNED. STILL THERE LIGHT BY FEATHERED DOWN ON MAIN STREET AND CLOSE FOR TWO YEARS. THAT'S LIKE THE SUN IS STILL ON THE SIGN BOARD BY THE, UH, DO IT YOURSELF, UH, DOG, WASH. THOSE ARE JUST TWO OF THE MANY, MANY, MANY BUSINESSES THAT HAVE SIGNS STILL THERE.

THEY'VE LONG SHUT THEIR DOORS AND THEN WINDOWS AND DOORS OF BUSINESSES COVERED WITH SIGNS AND POSTERS. THAT ARE BEYOND THE LIMIT ALLOWED BY OUR ORDINANCES, AND RECENTLY ONE OF THE BUSINESSES ON MAIN STREET PUT UP A BIG WOULDN'T WALL IN FRONT OF THEIR HUGE PLATE GLASS WINDOW.

THANK YOU. OK? ALL RIGHT. CITY MANAGER. UH, WE'RE TURNING OVER THE INFORMATION TO YOU. IN TERMS

[Discuss topics related to Bond Projects, Capital Improvement Projects, Funding Strategies]

SO, UH, LET ME GIVE YOU SOME LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING. SO BECAUSE I KNOW YOU LIKE TO KIND OF BROWSE THROUGH WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. SO YOU EACH HAVE A COPY OF THE SLIDES. YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU? UM I HAVE SOME LOOSE PIECES OF PAPER IF THEY GOT REMOVED, UM, FOR ANY NOTE TAKING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, UM, AS WE GO ALONG, UM EACH OF THE EACH OF YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE LIST THAT WE PROVIDED IT IS FRONT AND BACK SO I COULD TRY TO SAVE A FEW TREES. UM SO, UM, ACTUALLY, IT OPENS UP TO THE RIGHT TO SO THE PRINTER STAPLED TO STAPLE ON THE RIGHT. SO JUST BE AWARE OF THAT, UM, SO HOW THIS IS SORTED BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH. THIS IS MY

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AND THEN OUR GOAL TONIGHT IS, UM, TO RECEIVE CLEAR DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS. WHAT WE NEED TO PUT IN OUR BUDGET AS WELL AS UM, IF THERE'S ANY FUNDING, UH, CONSENSUS THAT YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF KNOW HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME THINGS, BUT AS A CITY MANAGER F DID SAY THAT YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS COMING DOWN THE LINE WITH THE FACILITY ASSESSMENTS AND WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO KIND OF BRING THOSE TO YOU, SO WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE. ALL RIGHT. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE KIND OF, UH, ICE BREAKER TYPE EXERCISE HERE IF YOU DON'T MIND, SO I LIKE THESE LITTLE COLD LIVE POLE THINGS. SO IF YOU WANNA GET YOUR PHONE OUT, AND YOU COULD EITHER USE THE QR CODE, OR IF YOU LIKE TO TYPE IT IN WE ARE GONNA GO DO A RANKING. EXERCISE. AND IT SHOULD TELL YOU WHEN YOU GET THERE. DID EVERYBODY GET IT? OK, WELCOME TO JENNIFER OTAY. YES. SO HERE IT IS, AND Y'ALL LET ME KNOW WHEN IT'S THERE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T ACTIVATED IT YET, SO IT'LL IT'LL POPULATE WHEN I ACTIVATE IT, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S THERE FIRST. A GOOD YEAH. ALRIGHT. ONE. THEY PUT STAY PUT, SO I'M ACTIVATING IT. IT SHOULD POPULATE. I'M GONNA PRESENT BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS IT'S GONNA BE A LIVE UPDATE. SO WHAT THIS IS, IS A RANKING EXERCISE. THERE IS A LIST OF DIFFERENT PROJECT TYPES. THE QUESTION IS WHAT TYPE OF PROJECT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY IN YOUR OPINION. IT HAS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PROJECT TYPES, AND YOU'RE GOING TO RENT AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO I KNOW ESPECIALLY FORCE RANKING WHERE YOU HAVE TO PICK A NUMBER ONE. PICK A NUMBER TWO. BUT AT LEAST, UM WE'LL KIND OF SEE A CONSENSUS BASED ON YOUR INPUT OF DO YOU THINK WHAT PROJECT TYPE IS MOST IMPORTANT? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OH, MAN.

THERE ARE YEAH, I MEAN, HOW MANY ? WHAT'S WHAT'S OUR RANKING ONE THROUGH FIVE OR ONE. BUT YOU KNOW MY 67. 89 THERE ARE NINE DIFFERENT ONES. I KNOW, BUT HOW DO WE PRAY FOR ONE? YOU YOU. YOU PUT THEM IN ORDER OF PRIORITY ALL NIGHT ALL NIGHT. THAT'S WHY I SIT THERE LOOKING ON. OK TIME IS ALL OF THESE ARE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR LIST AND THEY CAN ALL FIT IN THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, SO IT KIND OF HELPS US ALSO TO SEE WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO COMMUNITY. SO WHEN WE KIND OF NARROW DOWN THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED TO YOU. WE'LL BE ABLE TO PINPOINT. HEY, THESE ARE MORE PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS. THOSE ARE TOP PRIORITY TO THE COMMUNITY. WE KIND OF NEED TO FOCUS ON THOSE OR PLAYGROUNDS OR YEAH. OH, GIVE NUMBER. THERE WAS A DIRECT. YEAH, SO YOU KIND OF HAVE TO DRAG UP AND DOWN. AND IT SHOULD UPDATE LIVE ONCE YOU START DOING THAT, AND YOU SUBMIT UP AND BECAUSE. OH, OK. YEAH, IN THERE.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT CHANGING LIVE HERE. SO FAR, FIRST PLACE IS PUBLIC SAFETY. MAKE SENSE.

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FACILITY EXPANSION ENHANCEMENTS THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE MAKING ENHANCEMENTS OR EXPANSIONS TO CURRENT FACILITIES , LIKE INCREASING THE REC CENTER OR DOING SOMETHING TO SENIOR CENTER. THINGS LIKE THAT UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S YOUR WATER, WASTEWATER. UH, DRAINAGE.

BEAUTIFICATION AND AESTHETICS, PLANTINGS, TREES LIGHTING SETTLE FOR BRONZE? YES. UH, ENERGY EFFICIENT, YOU KNOW, LED LIGHTING TRANS, YOU KNOW, CHANGING OUT THAT KIND OF LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC, FUELING STATIONS, THINGS THAT WOULD BE ENERGY EFFICIENT.

PLAYGROUND UPDATES, SIGNAGE, W AND FACILITATE EXPANSION. DID YOU SAY THAT INCLUDES LIKE POLICE? YEAH, SO ENHANCING THE CURRENT FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE FOR THE RECREATION CENTER TO EXPAND THEIR FITNESS. YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO ADD MORE PROGRAMS OR, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO THE BUILDING THAT WE ALREADY KNOW WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE WORLD, COMPLETELY COMPLETE RENOVATION KIND OF THING, BUT JUST THINGS TO DO TO THE FACILITIES TO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE SEE IN THE SUPPORTING AMENITY. SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE BALL FIELD RENOVATIONS, THE LIGHTING IN THE BALL FIELDS REDOING, YOU KNOW THINGS IN THE PARKS WHERE BASEBALL TEAMS AND SOCCER TEAMS YOU KNOW OUR YOUTH SPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT COME AND USE OUR FACILITIES, SO THERE'S QUITE A FEW NEEDS. IN THAT REALM. AND TO BE DONE IN THE PARK. SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY SPORTS DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING AT THE FIELD HOUSE. BUT IT COULD INCLUDE A FULL HOUSE AS WELL. THE SAME. THIS IS JUST KIND OF GEN GENERIC, BUT WE GET TO MOVE TO THE SECOND ONE. SO THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA SO PUBLIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. BEING, UM THE TOP PRIORITY OF PROJECT TYPES. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME EXERCISE AGAIN. YOU ADVANCE TO SILVER RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU. SO IT'S THE SAME. PROJECT TYPES, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF QUESTION. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO THINK A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. SO RANK THESE PROJECTS BY THE GREATEST OPERATIONAL IMPACT, SO IF WE DO THIS KIND OF PROJECT IS GOING TO ENHANCE, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS, UH, MAYBE CREATIVE REVENUES THAT MIGHT COME IN. MAYBE YOU MIGHT MEAN THERE'S MORE PROGRAMMING OPPORTUNITIES OR MORE REVENUE THAT THE CITY COULD BRING IN IN IN OUR OR THINGS LIKE THAT. WHAT IS GONNA HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT THAT COULD BE POSSIBLY LIKE A FORCE MULTIPLIER? IF YOU WILL. WE DO THIS IN THIS ORDER. YOU KNOW IT. IT WILL IN THIS NINE OF THESE AS WELL. IT'S THE SAME. IT'S THE SAME EXACT, UH, PROJECT TYPES THAT WE JUST SAW. YOU SAID WHAT'S GONNA BE THE GREATEST IMPACT? IS THAT WHAT YOU THINK? IF WE DO THESE KIND OF PROJECTS WE WOULD BE HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY.

NOT ALL HAD A CHANCE TO ANSWER. NO IS THERE ANYTHING KIND OF SURPRISE? IS ANYTHING KIND OF SURPRISE YOU FROM THIS KIND OF ORDER? KIND OF WHAT YOU EXPECT. NOT HAPPY OVER THERE. DOES MATT HAVE ACCESS TO THIS? I GET UNLIMITED VOTES. I THANK YOU FOR PLAYING ALONG. HOW MANY MORE OF THESE WE HAVE TO DO? THIS IS JUST TWO. THIS IS JUST IT. KIND OF MORE KIND OF BREAKING THE ICE AS WE TRY TO THINK ABOUT OUR PROJECTS AND THE DIFFERENT KIND OF PROJECTS WE HAVE OUT THERE IN NEED. SO JENNIFER ON THAT NOTE. I JUST WORK SEVEN SINCE UTILITY IS NUMBER ONE. AFFECTED COUNCILS INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, MATT BRYAN. THAT'S NOT THAT IS NOT. OUR SO LET ME GO BACK TO THE. AND THEN WE MADE OUR PROJECT MANAGER. OK? VERY SOON, I'LL PROBABLY MAYBE THE NEXT ONE. MAYBE SHE'S JUST GOT A CONFLICT ON TUESDAY NIGHTS.

THAT'S OF ALL A LITTLE ROUGH. SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE COUNCIL PRIORITIES. PLEASE FEEL

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ASK MORE QUESTIONS. WHATEVER I PUT HIGHLIGHTERS WITH YOU ALL UM, YOU CAN DO THAT. OK SO HERE'S THE FIRST DISCUSSION POINT THAT I WANNA OPEN UP AT THIS POINT IN TIME. HOW SHOULD THE TRAIL FUNDS BE USED? UM FIRST GOING TO HARRINGTON PARK. NOW HERE'S THE PROJECT SCOPE, OK? UM, PHASE ONE IS THAT NEW CONCESSION AND RESTROOM FACILITIES? THAT PRICE TAG IS 3 MILLION. UM THE PHASE TWO IS THE PARKING LOT AND P AND THAT'S 1.9 MILLION AND THEN THE PHASE THREE IS THE BRIDGE AND THE TRAIL LINKING HARRINGTON AND WATER VIEW PARKS. THAT'S ABOUT 735,000 . SO THAT'S HOW WE COME UP WITH THE CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE. WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THIS. SO GOING BACK TO THE POTENTIAL TRAIL PROJECTS. SO HERE WE HAVE PRESENTED THIS TO YOU IN THE PAST. AT THE OTHER RETREATS. UM GIVING YOU SOME IDEAS ON HOW WE SHOULD USE THAT, UM, $1 MILLION THAT'S DESIGNATED FOR TRAILS. UM, SO HERE ARE SOME IDEAS TO REMIND YOU. WE HAVE, UH, WE CAN COMPLETE THE DANIEL DALE ROAD DIET. WHICH IS 750,000 IS THE ESTIMATE FOR THAT THAT IS THE TOP PRIORITY FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKS BOARD. UM WE, UH, HAVE A PUMP TRACK AT LAKESIDE PARK ABOUT 300,000 ESTIMATE. THAT IS AN IDEA. WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UH CLARK ROAD POWER LINE EASEMENT DOING A TRAIL THERE. BUT THERE'S A BELO WEB PROJECT. THAT'S ABOUT 2.2 MILLION, PERHAPS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE, UM, NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COG. UM, WE COULD USE IT FOR SOME DOWNTOWN CONNECTORS. B ON STREET BIKE LOOPS. UM, WE CAN ACTUALLY USE SOME OF THIS TRAIL MONEY. THERE'S A VARIETY OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THIS LIST HERE, UH , SOME TRAIL AND BRIDGE REPLACEMENT NEEDS THROUGHOUT OUR CURRENT PARKS, SO THAT'S ALSO AN OPTION IN WHICH WE COULD UTILIZE THE TRAIL BOND MONEY. SO THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE IDEAS. SO CAN WE OPEN IT UP FOR A DISCUSSION OF HOW TO BEST USE THE TRAIL FUNDS. WE LIKE TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND FULFILL THE, UM THE DESIRE OF THE BOND COMMITTEE AT THE TIME AND THE PARKS BOARD AND ALL THE INPUT THAT'S COME INTO HAVING YOU KNOW , ALLOCATED SO MUCH MONEY FOR TRAILS. SO WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT IS OF BIKE LANES GOING FROM MAINE ALL THE WAY TO CLARK ROAD. YES THAT'S CORRECT. AND WE DO HAVE THE SUBJECT MATTER. EXPERTS THAT CAN TYPE INTO AND I HAVE BEEN ON RECORD. ADAMANTLY APPROACH TO IT. TO TAKE OUR SIX LANES AND MAKE THE FLOOR OUT OF THEM SIMPLY TO TRY AND SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC INSTEAD OF MAKING A BIKE LANE OUT OF IT. WHICH IS WHAT CONSULTANTS LIKE TO GO. I THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA CHANGE BEHAVIORS. THE SPEED DOWN TODAY, NOEL I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S TRUE. SOMEONE'S GONNA GET KILLED. WE CAN PUT DETAILS DOWN ON THE LANE SO WE CAN CALL IT A BIKE LANE. USE FULL LANE, WHATEVER BUT TO PUT THOSE BARRIERS UP OR TO PUT THAT THAT HARDWARE UP LIKE WE DID OVER HIGHWAY 67 IS A TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY IN MY OPINION. I'VE BEEN OPPOSED TO IT. I COMPLETELY OPPOSED. MORE MONEY OFF. DANIEL, BE DO MORE BIKE LANES FOR THE PURPOSE OF WHAT NOT JESUS BIKE LANES. THE CONSULTANTS DOING THE

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THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. BUT STILL IN ALL PUTTING UP BARRIERS TO THAT TO CREATE A BIKE. I DON'T THINK IS A PROPER ONE WISE USE OF OUR MONEY IF WE WANT TO PUT THAT AS A SET FOR THE DECAL DOWN, IT SAYS BIKES MAY USE FULL LANE LIKE WE HAVE OTHER PLACES AROUND THE CITY. THAT'S GONNA BE OK, THEN THE FACTORS CAN CHOOSE TO USE IT OR NOT, BUT OUR TRAFFIC CONTROL SIMPLY DO THAT.

I THINK SEVEN, MAYBE THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS NOT THE WISEST USE OF OUR MONEY SEEING AND HOW THE BUDGET AS IT STANDS TODAY IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT VERY, VERY CAREFULLY. AND SO I WOULD AGREE THAT THE BARRIERS BE UM BUT I RECALL BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE JOINT MEETING WITH PARK SCHOOL AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THEY WERE GONNA GO BACK AND DO IT. TRAFFIC SET. THAT WAS WHAT WE COVER. LEFT. THERE WAS THAT CONVERSATION, BUT THERE WAS NEVER THERE WAS ALL IT WAS WAS CONVERSATION COUNSEL NEVER DIRECTED ME TO DO THAT. SO IF YOU WANNA DO THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE A MOTION IN A SECOND BECAUSE THERE WAS NEVER A DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO. I THINK THE 2016 AND 2017. IS THAT WHAT WAS SAID? I DON'T REMEMBER THE DATE THAT I WAS DOING FOR DANIEL, FOR SURE. THE BRIDGE OH, I'M SORRY. THE, UH PUSHING THE YEAH, BUT I THINK THE LAST TRAFFIC STUDY FOR DANIELLE WAS DONE LIKE IN 2016 2017. FROM WHAT THEY SAID. I DON'T THINK THEY SAID, DOES ANYBODY RECALL WHAT THEY SAID WHEN THE LAST ONE WAS DONE? I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE BIT LATER. WAS IT LATER THAT I REALLY DON'T? THAT'S JUST WHAT I RECALL. SO I GUESS MR CITY MANAGER WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER TRAP STUDY DONE FOR DANIEL DALE. UM HERE'S WHAT IT'S GONNA PROVE. IT'S GONNA PROVE THAT SIX BLADES AREN'T NEEDED. THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA PROVE. IT'S GONNA PROVE IT'S GONNA PROVE CLAIMS AREN'T NEEDED BECAUSE WE HAD THE TRAFFIC STUDY DONE. AND WE DO THIS PUPPY.

YEAH. AND WHAT THEIR FACES WHEREVER THE CONSULTANT WERE SAID. IT'S NOT USED ENOUGH SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT FROM SIX DOWN TO 4 TO 6. OK, FINE. GET THAT IN MY MIND THAT EITHER BUT LOOKING AT OK, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. PLANO PARKWAY IN THE CITY OF PLANO. AT SIX LANES. I HAVE TO GO TO PLANO ONCE A MONTH. AND I DON'T SEE ANY MORE TRAFFIC ON PLANO PARKWAY THAN WHAT I SEE DANGDA DURING DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY, BUT A SIX LANE PARKWAY THROUGH A CITY IS AN AMENITY. AND THERE'S NO MISTAKING THAT. BE FROM 67. ALL THE WAY TO CLARK ROAD IS A CONDUIT FOR CITIZENS. IT MAY OR MAY NOT LIVE IN THE CITY. BE THAT AS IT MAY, IT IS A CONDUIT OF TRAFFIC. PEAK PERIODS , IT CAN JUSTIFY ITSELF NON PEAK PERIOD IT CANNOT JUSTIFY ITSELF DURING A TRAFFIC STUDY. SETTING THAT STATISTIC ASIDE, I LOOK AT SIX LANES OF DANDEL AS AN AMENITY FOR OUR CITY. AND I WOULD NOT AND AGREE TO TAKING DOWN FROM 6 TO 4 LANES SIMPLY BECAUSE OF SOME STATISTICAL STUDY THAT SAYS IT'S NOT US WELL ENOUGH, AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA PROVE. WHO WAS, UH WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PART? BECAUSE WHEN I CAME ON BOARD, ALL THIS WAS ALREADY SETTLED, AND I ASKED THE QUESTION. BECAUSE IT WAS SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT PROJECT. SO MANY DELAYS. WHICH IS MY ESTIMATION WAS DISASTER. SO NORMALLY WHAT? AFTER THAT, KIND OF, UH, SO FEELING OF MAYBE. I'M GONNA SAY IT. THINGS JUST STOP. I ASK THE QUESTION. WHAT? WHAT ARE THE PLANS? BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE WHEN YOU ALL VOTED ON THIS.

WHAT'S THE PLAN TO CONTINUE THIS AND NOT HAVE SOMEBODY GET ON A BIKE? AND DRIVE FROM 67. TO LARRY LANE, AND THEY JUST STOP WHAT? WHAT'S THE PROMISE TO KEEP IT GOING? AND I JUST KIND OF TOLD SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS THAT THAT MEETING OF IT, IT'LL IT'LL GO. IT'LL GO ALL THE WAY TO CLARK ROAD. SO THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE ELECTED OFFICIALS THEY DON'T COUNT ME IN THIS, TOO. TALK ABOUT THINGS. THEY REASONABLE ASSESSMENTS. AND THEN NOTHING HAPPENS. I GUESS THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE RIGHT NOW. BUT THIS ONE ISSUE RIGHT HERE. THERE'S PROBABLY MORE TIME THAN WE WANNA TAKE. THE DISCUSSION TODAY UNLESS SOMEBODY COULD SUMMARIZE A PROPOSAL FOR PROJECT AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH GETTING THE, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY REDONE. I AGREE.

THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS GONNA SHOW IT'S NOT NEEDED AND IT ABSOLUTELY IT'S NEVER BEEN

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WHEREAS TRAILS IS MORE PARKS CORRECT IN TERMS OF A MAN FOR OUR CITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY ACTIVITY. ALMOST PUTS THIS INTO TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, BUT I THINK MAYBE DO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT THIS THING TO BED AND SAY TONIGHT CAN'T TAKE ANY VOTES CAN BUT WE CAN. WE CAN MAKE A DISCUSSION AND SAY THIS. THIS THIS IS THIS IS WHERE I AM. THIS IS WHERE I FEEL ABOUT IT. I'VE BEEN ARTICULATE IN SAYING I'VE OPPOSED THIS FOR YEARS. I'VE OPPOSED THIS SINCE 2018. WHEN I WAS PUT IN THE CAR PLANT. AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE. RIDING THEIR BIKES DOWN THERE TO SUPPORT BEING PROPOSED. RIGHT SO COME MY FRIEND, MY CONSULTANT, MICHIGAN. A LOT OF THIS STARTED, UH, WITH DALLAS COUNTY, TRYING TO CONNECT THE SOTO THROUGH DUNCANVILLE TO DALLAS TO SEE HILL. THAT'S WHAT STARTED IT. THIS WAS PRE COVID.

SO IT WAS. IT WAS IT WAS MOVING. STOP. A LOT OF STAFF TURNOVER, WHATNOT SO THE THEY NEVER GAINED MORE. BUT THE PURPOSE OR SOME OF THE PURPOSES FOR HAVING THIS OPTION IS TO FUNDRAISE. HAVE TO TRY TO BRING TRIATHLONS AND RUN THE SPORTING EVENTS DOWN SOUTH BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL UP NORTH. OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT AN AUDITORIUM. OF COURSE, WE GET THE TRAIL. WE HAVE THE BIKE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE RUN. YOU CAN POST TO DIFFERENT PLACES AND UTILIZE IT, BUT WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN? HIS, UH IF YOU GO ON POLK STREET IN OAK CLIFF TOWARDS, UH, BISHOP ARTS. THEY CHOP DOWN A SIX LA TO A FOUR LANE. THAT SLOW STUFF DOWN. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT STUDY BECAUSE THAT'S A THAT'S WAY BUSIER THAN THAN DANIEL BELL. IT'S BUSY ALL THE TIME. SO, BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IS TRAIN THE FOLKS. TO LET THEM SEE IT TO GET USED TO THE IDEA THAT YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE ON THAT COUNTER TO THAT BISHOP BARTS. DURING THAT ENTIRE SECTION. IS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

I MEAN FOR THIS BUSINESSES ALONG THERE, SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS YEAH. YOU RIDE YOUR BIKE, YOU STOP AND YOU GET A CUP OF COFFEE FOR $7. THEN YOU CAN TRY ANOTHER QUARTER OF A MILE. YOU CAN GET A GRILLED CHEESE SANDWICH FOR $13. THEN YOUR N DOESN'T HAVE THAT. IS PURE RESIDENTIAL ALL THE WAY FROM MANGO AND ALL THE WAY TO CLARK. WELL ONE LESS THING FOR THIS. UH, I SPOKE TO THE, UH, SUPERINTENDENT THERE AT THE SCHOOL. UH, THIS. AND I ASKED HIM IF IT WOULD BE AN ADVANTAGE OR DISADVANTAGE TO HAVE THAT, HE SAID. IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE AN ADVANTAGE NOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW I JUST ASKED HIM. BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T I DON'T GO THROUGH DANIELLE AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON AND SEE THE CITIZENS HAVE CREATED TWO LANES BUT WAITING IN LINE TO GET THEIR KIDS OUT OF VILLAGE TECH. BUT I'M THINKING HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE BRIDGE AND WALK ABILITY AND BIKES. OTHERWISE, THERE'S NO WAY TO GET ACROSS THE YEAH. MIRROR AND I'M THROWING THIS OUT AS A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS. REDUCING THAT DOWN FROM 6 TO 4. YOU'RE REDUCING ROAD MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR. AND THAT STUFF FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. AND THEN IT'S CALLED I. I ALMOST THE SAME THE MAN YOU ALMOST LIKE TO SEE AN ANALYSIS OF SO IF YOU DID THAT, WHAT'S YOUR LONG? SO OVERALL AND I THINK I THINK THAT'S KIND OF A FAIR THING THAT COULD GO INTO THE AND INTO

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THERE'S A GREEN SIGN. BICYCLE, AND IT SAYS BIKE ROUTE AND ABOUT 20 FT AHEAD OF IT. THERE'S A BLACK AND WHITE SIGN THAT SAYS BIKE LANE. BEGIN. UM MAYBE THAT MAKES SENSE TO BIKE RIDER. BUT UH, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THAT, I'M THINKING I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THESE TWO SIGNS ARE SO CLOSE TOGETHER, AND THEY SEEM TO BE SAYING THE OPPOSITE THING OR YOU GOT A LITTLE DEAD SPACE IN BETWEEN SOMETHING JUST SOMETHING FOR SIGNS AND SIGNALS TO LOOK AT AND SEE IF WE GOT THE CORRECT SIZE UP THERE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU COME ACROSS THAT BRIDGE THEN THAT DANIEL ON THE 67TH BRIDGE. IT GOES DOWN TO TWO LANES. THAT DANIEL DALE 67 GOES DOWN TO TWO LANES. YOU CROSS MAIN STREET. IT GOES BACK TO THREE LANES. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? THE ENGINEERS AND THE DESIGNERS AND THE CONSULTANTS WHO DESIGNED THE THING. PUT THIS PIECE OF CONCRETE OUT THERE TO MAKE IT RIGHT HAND TURN LIKE SO YOU COME ACROSS AND THEN YOU HIT THAT BUMP ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU TEAR THE BOTTOM OUT OF YOUR CAR. AND IT NOW GOES BACK TO THREE LEGS. TO ME. IT WAS A DESIGN FLAW. THAT'S HOW THAT'S THAT'S HOW THOSE SIGNS GOT SCREWED. IT WAS IT WAS AN ENGINEERING DESIGN FLAW. BUT IT GOT BUILT THAT WAY. THIS IS SOMETHING RIGHT THERE. GOTTA KEEP MOVING ALONG SOMETHING TO CONSIDER JUST TO PUT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND. TO THAT POINT. WE TALK ABOUT PARKS AND RECREATION. THAT THAT IS, UM SO WE'RE STILL IN THE SAME PLACE. WE WERE HOW MUCH WAS THE AMOUNT AGAIN? IT WAS, UH, WHAT'S LEFT IS 932,000 SO COUNSEL. I MEAN, CLEARLY THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE IN TERMS OF THAT, BUT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT US TO FOCUS ON FOR 25 SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE LIST, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF, UH CURRENT TRAILS AND BRIDGES THAT ARE IN NEED OF REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT AND UPDATE. SO THAT IS A THOUGHT THAT HEY, WHY NOT TAKE CARE OF MAYBE WHAT WE HAVE NOW? VERSUS WAITING ON SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE YET. SO I WANNA KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, TOO. WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? YES. SO I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MOVE ON. BUT I'M BRINGING THIS UP, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS SAYING, HEY, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. REMIND ME DO SOMETHING WITH ME. UM, KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, OR WE'LL GET BACK TO AND SO, BUT THERE'S ONE OTHER, UH OPTION. AND SO THE SOTO THEY'RE WORKING ON A WALK AND BIKE TRAIL COMING FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. THESE AND SO WE DO HAVE ANOTHER OPTION OF ON THE OTHER WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 67. THAT, BUT AND IN THAT WAY, I MEAN, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WITH THIS MONEY. NOW WE'RE SHOWING THAT YES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING ON THE PHASES RIGHT OR PHASING IT OUT. BUT I MEAN YOU CAN TELL. WE'RE NOT COMING TO A CONCLUSION OF CONSENSUS ON WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO ON DANIEL DALE ON THE OTHER WAY. SO YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THAT OPTION AS WELL. THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE COUNTY.

PLAN SO THAT THERE, THERE'S ANOTHER OPTION. AND I I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT AND SEE WHAT COST MIGHT BE. IT. MAYBE IT'S LIKE HALF A MILE. AND THEY EVEN LESS. 67 TO COLE HILL.

AND IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY DE SOTO AND SEEING WHAT THEY'RE PLANS ON. AND THE ONLY ISSUE WITH THAT IS THERE SIGNIFICANT DOWNHILL, BUT THERE ARE WAYS TO THAT'S AND THERE'S PLENTY OF RIGHT AWAY. AND COPPER HILL AND 67 CONTINUE THE TRAIL THAT I HAVE THAT WITH THE STREET ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN FUNDING INSURANCE IS YET BUT I HAD A CONVERSATION TEXT THAT, UH, IS GONNA BE COMING OUT PRETTY SOON HERE. WITH A GRANT AND SENATE PACKAGE. THAT'S UH 50. THAT WOULD INCLUDE SIDEWALKS . IT WOULD INCLUDE BRIDGES, ROADS, ALL THAT STUFF. I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS WANNA SAY YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT 900,000 AND PUT IT AS A PLACEHOLDER TO BE THE MATCH AND GO UP SOME GRANT MONEY. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND EXPLORE THEM. THIS. HAVE WE EVER DONE IN AN ASSOCIATION WITH THE REDUCTION DOWN TO 46 TO 4. AND THE BIKE TRAIL. HAVE WE EVER DONE A SURVEY WITH THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA? USE THAT MORE THAN ANYBODY, I SAY UP IN MY

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NO, NO. NOW THAT BECOMES ANOTHER BUTTON. THE MILLION DOLLARS SO I GOT ANOTHER FUN DISCUSSION HERE IN A SECOND, SO WE'LL COME. WE'LL COME COME BACK TO THIS. UM, SO COUNCIL PROPOSITION. SO THESE ARE THE STREETS. WE'VE UH HAVE DANIEL DALE THAT'S SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE IN THE DESIGN PHASE FOR CEDAR RIDGE. THAT SHOULD BE WRAPPING UP PRETTY SOON HERE IN THE SPRING, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE CONSTRUCTION STARTING IN, UM, SUMMER FALL TIME. THE QUESTION THAT REMAINS KIND OF ON THE TABLE IS THE, UH, THE THIRD PROJECT THAT WAS NOMINATED BY THE BOND OF ME. I GUESS IT'S THE MAIN STREET. YOU CAN'T WHIZ THEM, SO WE NEED YOUR DIRECTION.

COUNCIL LIKE WE STILL HANG ON TO THIS IDEA, BECAUSE WE THE IDEA. YOU REMEMBER, UM DALLAS COUNTY THAT WAS GONNA HELP WITH, YOU KNOW SOME PROJECTS, AND THEY SUGGESTED THE ROUNDABOUT THERE ON CENTER. AND THAT WAS, UM TIME NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT, SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER, I GUESS PROJECTS IDENTIFIED AT THIS TIME. UM FOR THAT AREA, SO WE HAVE 1.5 MILLION. THAT WAS KIND OF THE PLACEHOLDER FOR THAT PROJECT. WE CAN. CERTAINLY WE HANG ON TO IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE . MAIN STREET CAMP WISDOM. DO WE REDIRECT IT? MAYBE TO SOME OTHER STREET PROJECTS OR I GOTTA REWIND. YES, PLEASE DO. BEFORE YOUR TIME. MAN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU FOR THIS. IT WASN'T YOUR WHEELHOUSE AT THE TIME, SIR. UM BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE GRADE. THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT MONEY WAS TO FIX THE GRAIN AT MAIN STREET AND CAMPS. THAT'S WHEN WE WERE ADDED TO THE PROBLEM WITH THE COUNTING BNSF SO BNSF SAID. YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT, BUT DON'T ASK US FOR A DIME. SO WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES WERE BUILT THE BRIDGE BRIDGE OVER CAMPUS. I'M GOING EITHER WAY YOU FIX IT. AND THE COST WAS SOMEWHERE IN 3 MILLION PLUS. AS A MINIMUM. THAT WAS IT. THERE'S A MINIMUM. AND WE KNEW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAD A MILLION DOLLARS TO PLAY. SO WE WERE ALREADY 2 MILLION IN THE HOLE. THAT'S JUST DESIGN. SO THEN. ACCOUNTING. KNOWING THAT WE COULDN'T USE THE MONEY FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT GOT INVOLVED IN, AS JENNIFER SAID.

WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE, THEY HAD THEIR ENGINEERS DECIDE A ROUNDABOUT TO USE A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE COUNTY SAID USE YOUR MILLION DOLLARS. AND THE COUNTY WILL CONTRIBUTE A MATCHING MILLION DOLLARS AND WE WILL PUT A ROUNDABOUT IN YOUR CITY AND WE WILL SHUT DOWN SANTA

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THE FEDERAL MONEY. BECAUSE IT IS A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION AS QUALIFYING BY FEDERAL CRITERIA, WE CAN GET FEDERAL MONEY AND THAT HAS GONE NOWHERE. SO IN MY LAST DAYS, JUST LET YOU KNOW. IT WAS ON SOME OF THESE DESKS OVER THERE, AND JEFF NEO, THE COD WAS ALL ABOUT IT. HE'S HE'S ON THE HE'S WITH THE RT C. YES. THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS WELL AND WHAT I WOULD WOULD SAY. I. I DON'T I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN YOU HAVE BOND PROJECTS. AND HE DESIGNATED, SO WE'RE GONNA FIX MAIN STREET. THEN YOU DON'T DO WHAT YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA DO. AND SO BUT BUT BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. DALLAS COUNTY GRADED IT DIDN'T GRADE OUT. THUS THEY CAME WITH THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE. SO WHAT? WHAT I'M GONNA SAY IS YES, WE NEED TO GO FOR THE FEDERAL TO FIX THAT. THE MAIN STREET MONEY NEEDS TO BE I I'M GONNA SAY GOES IN THE CEDAR RIDGE. IT NEEDS IT NEEDS TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. THE MONEY NEEDS TO BE USED BECAUSE SITTING THERE IT'S JUST AGAIN A CONTINUAL CYCLE THAT'S GONNA COST MORE. IT'S GONNA COST MORE. IT'S GONNA COST MORE. I TO GET IT DONE. SO, SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS LOVE IT. TOWARDS CEDAR RIDGE AND GET IT.

STARTED. THIS, CONTRERAS ALL ABOUT GETTING CEDAR ROOT AND STARTED GOING. DEEPER INTO THIS AS WE GO THROUGH HERE. BUT I DON'T. I DON'T SEE MUCH OF ANYTHING IN HERE. THAT'S IN DISTRICT FIVE. THERE IS SOME COMPARED TO THE OTHER DISTRICTS. THIS THING IS DOMINANTLY FOR OTHER DISTRICTS. OK SO WHEN I SEE THAT MILLION AND A HALF UP THERE, AND I KNOW WE GOT $400,000 OF TIP MONEY WE HAVEN'T USED OVER TWO YEARS. UM I'D LIKE TO SEE CAMP WISDOM SPRUCED UP.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CENTER MEDIANS. DONE WITH WITH SOME TYPE OF LANDSCAPING. YEAH, THAT'S AN ENTRYWAY. THE MAIN INTROS INTO DUNKER. AND IT GETS YOU TO MAIN STREET. PEOPLE WILL GET UP HIGH 20 TO COME HERE SO I'M GONNA THROW IN FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. I'D LIKE TO SEE MONEY LIKE THAT. PUT BACK TOWARDS UH AND DUNCANVILLE ROAD, BY THE WAY, SAME THING THAT'S CENTER MEDIUM ON THE ROAD. I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN FIXED. BUT, YOU KNOW RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE LIBERTY SQUARE IS KIND OF READING. KIND OF HEAVED UP. IT LOOKS TERRIBLE. IT'S FUNCTIONAL, I GUESS FOR WHAT IT IS THE PA TOES ARE ALL FALLING OUT. BUT I LIKE TO SEE PROJECTS LIKE THAT UP IN START TO THINK ABOUT PUTTING SOME MONEY UP THERE BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, WE GOT $400,000 OF TIP MONEY. THAT'S GONNA RUN OUT SOONER OR LATER. I WAS TOLD BY GUS THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS RE RE RECLAIM IT. WELL, I'M I'M A I'M AFRAID THAT ONE DAY THAT RECLAIMS GONNA END UP WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. BUT WHEN I SEE THAT MILLION FIVE AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT, I, I WANNA THROW MY TWO CENTS IN FOR DISTRICT FIVE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE GOING ON HERE. WE HAVE JUST AGAIN. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE THE STEPCHILDREN UP THERE. YEAH. AND

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THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA. THE USE OF THAT MONEY AND SIDEWALKS. THIS LANDSCAPING ALL DEALS WITH INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S $400,000 SITTING IN THE TIP. NOW I NEVER GOT AN ANSWER TO DC. WAY BACK WHEN? WHEN I WAS ON THE E DC. WE DONATED 100 AND $50,000 TO SEED MONEY FOR THAT. I NEVER REALLY GOT A FIRM ANSWER. IF THAT $150,000 IS EVER BEEN PAID BACK BECAUSE IT WAS A LOAN. IT.

IT HASN'T IT HAS NOT. OK SO DECREMENT 400 BY 150. WE HAVE TO PAY THE BACK. SO COUNCIL THOUGH THERE THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU WITH ALL THIS THERE. THERE'S A COUPLE OF MOVING THINGS KEEP IN MIND RIGHT NOW. WE'RE DOING AN UPDATE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, RIGHT. WE WILL BE SOON. UM, SO IT'S GONNA BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAYS THAT THEY WANT, RIGHT. WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REPORT COMING VERY, VERY SOON. UH, HOPEFULLY IN THE MONTH OF MAY, UM AS A RESULT OF THE D CE D C'S, UH, ENDEAVORS. THE D CE DC IS ALSO VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT MAIN STREET AND CAMP WISDOM , ESPECIALLY FROM, UH, STATION ONE. TOWARDS AT LEAST DUNCANVILLE ROAD, IF NOT FAR RIGHT. AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE THE ARTS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AS AN ARTS AND CULTURAL TYPE AREA. THE D CE DC WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, UM ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S A WHAT'S CALLED TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE GRANT. LET'S GET HIM READY TO BE RELEASED. UH, IT'S A FEDERAL PROGRAM WHERE WE HAVE TO PAY 20% OF THE GRANT, WHICH WOULD BE INSTEAD OF US GUESSING ABOUT WHAT IT IS. THAT WOULD MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT. WE COULD GO FOR THAT GRANT, AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE 100 $200,000 STUDY. AND WE'D ONLY HAVE TO PAY 20% OF IT. SOME OF THAT MONEY TO HELP FUND THE GRANT. IT WOULD GIVE US VERY, VERY SPECIFIC ACTION ITEMS RELATIVE TO CAMP WISDOM RELATIVE TO BROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WELL RELATIVE TO MAIN STREET. THE REASON WHY I JUST I SAY ABOUT MAIN STREET IN SPECIFICALLY I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GONNA FIND AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE COMP PLAN STUFF, SOME OF THE FEASIBILITY TYPE STUFF THERE'S GOING TO BE QUESTIONS THAT ARE GONNA COME TO COUNCIL ABOUT CHANGING ZONING CHANGE A WHOLE VARIETY OF THINGS AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE TO REALLY IMPROVE THE AREA AND THEN THEN THERE'S GONNA BE ALL KINDS OF ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD HELP WITH THESE PROJECTS. I MEAN, THE D CE DC IS SITTING ON $6.8 MILLION CURRENTLY RIGHT THAT THEY CAN HELP TO INVEST AND SO THERE.

THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE COULD GO AND KIND OF STRETCH THESE DOLLARS AND MAKE IT MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL THAN A $1.5 MILLION PROJECT RIGHT BECAUSE CEDAR RIDGE HAS BASICALLY THE MONEY TO DO ALMOST THE WHOLE THING, RIGHT? WITH UTILITY FUND. IT MIGHT NEED A COUPLE OF $100,000, BUT WE CAN COMPLETE IT. BASED ON WHAT WAS IN FUN PROJECT. SO I SO WE HAVE

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DIFFERENT OPTIONS. FUNDING THE PROJECT. SO AND ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO REALLY TRY TO STRETCH THESE DOLLARS USING GRANT PROCEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, GO AFTER SOME APPLICATIONS, ESPECIALLY FOR SOME PLANNING GRANTS, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL VERY MUCH IN PLANING STAGE WITH A LOT OF THIS. WE'RE NOT YET READY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION. UNLESS YOU GUYS WANNA JUST GO STRAIGHT TO SOMETHING TO DO SOMETHING SO THEN. MY QUESTION NOW. WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE TONIGHT? WE'RE GOING HOME. YEAH WE KIND OF NEED TO MOVE ALONG BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET TO US NOW ON WHAT WE NEED AND THEN KIND OF THINK ABOUT AND PROBABLY FROM THERE. OK AND IT'S GOOD DISCUSSION, TOO. IT IS THERE WE STILL ON THE SAME PAGE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT VERSUS YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR WE'RE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION. AND NEXT YEAR WE'RE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION. YOU HAVE BEEN JUST KIND OF STAGNANT. SO IT'S HAPPENED. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT WAS KIND OF MY POINT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, STARTING TO HAVE DEJA VU HERE AND YOU KNOW, AND THANK YOU, JENNIFER. YOU GIVING US SOME PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD? QUESTIONS HERE. OK, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION. DO WE CONTINUE TO HOLD THE FUNDS FOR MAIN STREET CAMP IS OR SHOULD WE REDIRECT TO OTHER STREETS? PROJECTS. SO I. I KIND OF LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES. THEY GOT A HARD ANSWER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. FROM WHAT? I'VE HEARD. IT SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE SAYING WE WANT TO REDIRECT THAT TO OTHER PROJECTS.

WE CAN. CERTAINLY WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT GIVING A HARD ANSWER TODAY, BUT WITH COLLECTING YOUR RESPONSES BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU HERE ARE SOME REAL OPTIONS.

AFTER WE LOOK AT THE I'M STILL SAYING THAT MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE IN A BUCKET THAT WE HAVE SPENT CAN BE PUT TOWARD CAMP WITH THEM IN THE MAINSTREAM GRAVE WITH A FEDERAL GRANT. IT COULD QUALIFY. IF WE JUST THAT THING UP, FIND IT AND LET'S GET IT IN AND GET IT QUALIFIED. NO, IT HAS IT'S COMPETITION. LET'S FACE IT. YOU KNOW THAT THAT FEDERAL GRANT FOR THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION THE PROCESS, SO WE REALLY HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND DIG IT BUT STATISTICS AND WHAT'S THE DANGER OF IT? BUT JEFF NE. THEY KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. THAT'S WHAT THE CONGRESS FROM THE RT C IS FOR. TO HELP US GET GRANTS DONE. BUT WE CAN GET MONEY. A R TWO C FOUR. SIX YEARS. WE MUST DO A COMPETITIVE FRIEND THAT YOU'RE EXITING OUT THE DOOR, BUT IT'S RIGHT. WE CAN DO THAT. BUT I'M BEEN SENTENCED SOMEWHERE IN PUBLIC WORKS FOR TWO YEARS. OH, OK. ALL RIGHT. WELL WE'LL MOVE ON, UM, FROM THIS, BUT SO JUST FINISHING UP ON, UM, THE OTHER PROPOSITIONS. FIRE STATIONS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE YOU. UM AND THEN SERVICE CENTER IS THE LAST ONE AND, UM OUR CONDITION IS TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET THE FACILITIES ASSESSMENT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT, UM, DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, UH, THE BUILDING, SO WE ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED ABOUT 5.2 BASED ON THE CURRENT DESIGN THAT WAS ALREADY PUT OUT THERE AND EVERYTHING, BUT REALLY, TO SERVICE THAT BUILDING TO REALLY WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE. IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY MORE SO, BUT ONCE WE HAVE THAT FACILITIES ASSESSMENT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REVISIT THIS TOPIC. OH, MAN. SO I DON'T KNOW. NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO DISCUSS IT OR OTHER DISCUSSIONS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE OLD BE LATER. YOU KNOW, THE YEAH. YEAH.

IF WE HAVE TIME RIGHT NOW. DO YOU? IT'S UP TO YOU. DON'T TEAR IT DOWN, MAKE IT SOMETHING ELSE.

OK SO THE NEXT BIG, UH, PRIORITY WE'RE NOT GONNA GET INTO THE WEED SO MUCH. I'M JUST REMINDING YOU OF A I WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION. YOU'VE BEEN PRESENTED THIS BY PUBLIC WORKS OF MULTIPLE TIMES. YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE HAVE AGING, UM, WATER METERS. UM, AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UM, 10 YEARS OR OLDER. UM, WE'VE SEEN THESE ANALYSIS. YOU KNOW, OUR WATER REVENUE HAS BEEN GOING DOWN, BUT WE HAVEN'T IMPLEMENTED. YOU KNOW THE RATE, UH, INCREASED STRUCTURE MODELS FOR, UM, RECUPERATING SOME OF THAT REVENUE. UM AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT THE OBJECTIVES ARE WITH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HAVING AMI, UM CONSERVATION, GREATER BUILDING ACCURACY. TRANSPARENCY YOU KNOW, REAL TIME DATA. SO UM, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE DAY M I, BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DISCUSSED WITH Y'ALL, UM, FOR HAVE YOU HEARD THE COUNCIL? PRIORITY SO, UM, THAT IS THE COUNCIL STILL IN AGREEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AMI GENERALLY SPEAKING RIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME DIFFERENT FUNDING STRATEGIES. DAVID AND I HAVE HAD A SERIES OF MEETINGS WHERE IT'S PROBABLY A 12 MINUTE. I KNOW MATT'S HAD SOME SPECIFIC MEETINGS, TOO, AND WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON BRINGING STUFF TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN BRING A COMPLETE PROPOSAL. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY A $12 MILLION PROJECT YOU TAKE. UM BUT THERE IS FINANCING OPTIONS FOR US TO ACTUALLY NOT BOND BUT ACTUALLY DO A LOAN AGAINST THE PROJECT.

UM PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CLOSER TO 20 MILLION, SO THAT IT WOULD GIVE

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WAS IT WAS I GOT? I GOT A MAP AT HOME THAT GREG RAMI GAVE ME. PART OF THE PROJECT. WHEN WE WOULD PUT REPLACING THAT PIPE OVER THE BRIDGE, JUST A RUNNING PARALLEL WITH THAT WAS A WATER WALK BUILDING BRIDGE. AND IT WAS A HOME. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE WALK BRIDGE. I DON'T KNOW.

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UM I INCLUDED ALL FIVE YEARS HERE, BUT WE'RE ONLY GONNA FOCUS ON, UM, PRIORITY ONES THERE. SO STARTING KIND OF AT THE BEGINNING HERE. WE'RE KIND OF WALK THROUGH THIS LIST. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE IT IN GREEN, I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER THERE SO UM, BUT IT WAS NEVERTHELESS IDENTIFIED AS A TOP PRIORITY FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. SO UH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE, UH, FIELD HOUSE. SO WHEN I ADD UP ALL OF THE TOP PART NUMBER ONE. THAT PRICE TAG FOR THAT FIRST YEAR COMES OUT TO BE $78 MILLION. SO THAT IS ALL FUNDING SOURCES. NOT JUST YOU KNOW THE UNKNOWNS THERE THAT COULD BE UTILITY. OR THAT COULD BE DRAINAGE. PART OF THAT COULD BE BOND MONEY. UM, BUT THESE ARE AGAIN. AND THE POOL BURDEN, I GUESS OF THE TOP PRIORITIES THAT, UM, WE'VE IDENTIFIED SO. FIELD HOUSE. YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING. DOLLARS. SO WE GO DOWN FY 2025? YES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY BACK AGAIN. IT CAN ONLY PRINT SO MUCH, AND I'LL EMAIL THIS OUT TO YOU, TOO, FROM A SPREADSHEET PERSPECTIVE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY, VERY BACK LAST PAGE. IT DOES HAVE THE GRAND TOTALS. SO THERE IS A PAGE THAT HAS, UM ALL YEARS. YOU KNOW, GRAND TOTAL, UH, KIND OF BROKEN DOWN BY THE FUNDING TYPE. BUT THEN ON THE LAST PAGE, IT HAS, UM, A BROKEN DOWN BY JUST THE PRIORITY ONES, BUT IT HAS A TOTAL OH, CONCERN THAT THINGS BACK TO HERE IT HAS A GRAND TOTAL HERE. SO YOU CAN YEAH. PAGE 11 OF 13. YEAH, I CAN KIND OF GIVES YOU THAT. IF WE WERE TO DO EVERYTHING IN THE FIRST YEAR, YOU KNOW IT COMES OUT ABOUT NERVES. YEAH. SO FIELD HOUSE. THAT'S THE FIRST, UH FEW ITEMS HERE. SO, UM, THEY NEED A NEW H VAC SYSTEM. ABOUT 750. WE JUST COULDN'T THINK IT'S 1.2. EFFORT OF 1.2. YEAH, FOR THE H BC. IT'S ACTUALLY 1.2 MONTHS. HOWEVER CHANGED THAT TO YEAH, THAT CHANGES THAT PROBLEM, HOWEVER, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS SPECIFICALLY COUNSEL. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING, UH, ABOUT OUR NEW RELATIONSHIP WITH THE D CE DC. HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. WE EXPECT THEM TO FIND THIS, SO IT'S NOT ALL WOULD HAVE TO MONITOR IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I THINK THAT, UH I. I FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT THEY WERE EXCITED ABOUT NEW COLLABORATION. THEY THEY'VE BEEN PARTNERING WITH US, AND THEY FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT SO AGAIN AS WE GO THROUGH THIS MAKE YOUR NOTES HIGHLIGHT THINGS THAT YOU KNOW YOU FEEL ARE ARE ARE MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU. UM, AS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO YOUR PRIORITY EXERCISE AT THE END OF THIS WITH WITH THESE PROJECTS. SO, YEAH, UM, BUILD HOUSE NOW, BUT THAT'S 1.2 MILLION. UM, THEY NEED A NEW ROOF. IT'S OVER 20 YEARS OLD. THAT'S ABOUT 225,000 WAS THE ESTIMATE AND NEED TO REPLACE ALL OF THEIR GRILL AND CAFE EQUIPMENT. UM THAT'S ABOUT 65,000. THROUGH THE TRACK EQUIPMENT LOCATED ON THE ROOF. AND THEY ALSO NEED TO REPLACE ALL THEIR EXTERIOR GLASS DOORS, UM, IN THE BUILDING, AND THAT'S UH ACCORDING TO THAT, 36,000 DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE PARTICULAR PROJECTS? THOSE WERE THEIR PRIORITIES.

JUST A COMBAT. I THINK IT'S MORE THAN THAT SOME BIGGER ONES, AND THERE'S FOUR BIG ONES, AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF SMALL ONES. JUST TO KIND OF REGARDLESS OF ANY DISCUSSIONS GOING ON. WITH CONTRACT WAS OUT THIS ALL THIS HAS TO BE DONE. NO MATTER YES. SO THE BURDEN IS ON THE CITY FOR THIS MONEY. WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY. REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FIELD HOUSE DOES NOT OTHER THAN PROBABLY WHAT THEY BRING IN AND EXPEND. THERE'S NO OTHER REALLY, AT THIS POINT IDENTIFY A SOURCE OF FUNDING. SO WELL AND ME. I JUST FELL OFF. I KNOW, BUT THEY LITERALLY IS NOTHING TO DISCUSS ANYMORE WITH ANY OUTSIDE ENTITY, SO STARTING FROM SCRATCH. SO IT REMAINS IN HOUSE AS WE WILL REMAIN CITY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO MOVING AHEAD PAST THE FIELD HOUSE. UM THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE CATCH ALL POLICE FIRE GENERAL GOVERNMENT. UM SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS REQUESTED. UM, THEIR TOP PRIORITY. UM HAVING SOME FOUNDATION REPAIRS, EMERGENCY REPAIRS THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY

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SO APPROXIMATELY THAT COST IS 1.6 MILLION. UM, THE FIRE STATION ALSO NEEDS TO REPAIR. UM AD A COMPLIANT, YOU KNOW SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF A FIRE STATION, TOO. PROCESS. UH, LET ME UM, REGIONAL DISPATCH, THEY HAVE COMMUNI. 1000 I'M SORRY. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, 11,000. NO, NO, NO, NO, IT'S RIGHT. IT'S NOT OUT OF MY MOUTH. FORGIVE ME. THANK YOU.

KEEP ME STRAIGHT. SO, UH, REGIONAL DISPATCH, AND, UH, THE SAME ENGINE MIGHT HAVE SOME UPDATES. UM THIS CONVERSATION, BUT, UM WHAT THEY COMMUNICATED TO US LAST YEAR, THEY HAVE PLANS TO CONSTRUCT A WHOLE NEW DISPATCH CENTER IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. THEY HAD ASKED THAT YOU KNOW THAT THING THAT WE ARE A THIRD. UM I HAVE ONE THIRD PARTNERSHIP IN THAT DATA WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW. GIVE THEM SOME SOME FUNDING FOR UPGRADES TO THEIR CURRENT FACILITY. LAST YEAR, THEY HAD PROJECTED A MILLION DOLLARS. UM, THAT WOULD BE DUE IN 25 TO GO TOWARDS, UM, UPGRADES AND THEN IN FY 28. IT WOULD BE, UM, YOU WOULD OWE THEM FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW FACILITY. BUT, UH, MR FRENCH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES THAT CHANGED SINCE LAST YEAR. THIS WAS THE COUNCIL IDOL. REMEMBER COMING TO COUNCIL I BRIEFED ON THIS EXPENSE TO UPGRADE THE OF THE SPACE CENTER AND WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE OUR FAIR SHARE TO THAT. I THINK THAT WAS THE CANCER SYSTEM. SO THAT IS MY FORWARD. THAT'S THE SOFTWARE THIS I BELIEVE THE CAN IS BEING KICKED DOWN THE ROAD OR AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING. SO THE CANCER SYSTEM IS THE SOFTWARE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM AND ALL THAT. TOTAL COST OF $6.4 MILLION. MAYBE THAT'S THE ROCK OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS. YEAH. THIS IS A REPLACEMENT OF THE BUILDING. THIS WOULD BE A NEW FACILITY. THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE A NEW TRAINING FACILITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT THERE'S NO AT THIS POINT, I THINK GIVEN THE LIGHT OF THE EXPENSE FOR THE CAT SYSTEM AND OVER VARIETY OF OTHER EXPENSES. I THINK IT'S SHIFTED TO A FEW MORE YEARS OUT, SO I THINK THAT WAS MENTIONED TO US IN NOVEMBER, BUT RIGHT? HE BRIEFED US ON IT. AND THAT WILL TREAT. SO I GUESS JUST JUST ONE OTHER THING THAT WAS MENTIONED, UH, LAST YEAR. WAS THAT IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE RE EVALUATE OUR USE AS THREE, A THIRD CONTRIBUTOR. WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF RESPONSES THE NUMBER OF CALLS AND YOU BREAK IT DOWN THAT SLOWLY AS CEDAR HILL DISORDER ARE GROWING. THEIR DEMANDS ARE GREATER. AND SO, UH, THERE WAS A SUGGESTION THAT WE REVISIT OUR AGREEMENT. TO SEE IF WE TRULY ARE A THIRD, A THIRD AND A THIRD BECAUSE IT WAS APPARENT THAT WE WERE ALREADY DRIFTING AWAY FROM THAT, AND AS SUCH, SHOULD WE BE CONTRIBUTING AS MUCH JUST TO BE A PART OF THE THREE IF IT DOESN'T EQUAL OUT. THERE YOU GO.

SO LAST YEAR, DUNCAN BELLS CALLS WERE 67,231 FOR POLICE. 7015 FOR FIRE. CEDAR HILLS WAS 61,649 FOR POLICE 8062 FOR FIRE. ALMOST EXACT SAME. DE SOTO HAD 11,726 FOR FIRE. AND THEY HAVE 100 AND 18,079 FOR POLICE. BUT THAT'S THE WAY THEY CATEGORIZE IT. SO BASICALLY THE P THAT IN HALF THEY DO HAVE THE LIONS SHARE, BUT THEY ALSO ARE ABSORBING THE LION'S SHARE OF THE EXPENSE FOR IT. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A THIRD, A THIRD A THIRD THERE, THERE'S THEY'RE COVERING A LOT MORE

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THERE'S NOTHING SO THAT MR POLICE. EXCUSE ME. POLICE AND FIRE IS BEING DONE IN THE OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS FOR THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT. AND SO I MEAN, LIKE THE POLICE, AND IT'S A BY DEPARTMENT. YOU'LL FIND THE POLICES ON PAGE FOUR. UM AND THEN, UM, POLICE. UH, LIKE FOR A PATROL PURSUIT VEHICLES. NOW WE HAVE 15 VEHICLES TECHNICALLY IN OUR FLEET ROTATION PROGRAM, SO THE DEPARTMENT YOU KNOW CONTRIBUTES INTO THE FLEET REPLACEMENT FUND. UM THEY HAVE FOUR PATROL VEHICLES. THAT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE REPLACE THIS, IT'LL KIND OF TAKE THE BEST OF THE REPLACEMENTS AND KIND OF PUT IT ON THE BACK END IF YOU WILL FOR ANY EMERGENCIES, OR IF YOU KNOW SOMETHING BREAKS DOWN. THEY CAN PUT THAT INTO INTO SERVICE. BUT WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO, UM, IS TO REPLACE THESE FOUR VEHICLES THAT ARE, UM AT BACKUP. AND THESE ARE 2019 VEHICLES. THEY 2018 AND THEN PUT THOSE INTO THE ROTATION SO THEY WOULD HAVE 19 TOTAL PATROL VEHICLES AND THIS WILL ALLOW THEM TO, UM, NUMBER ONE. MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE, UH UM, VEHICLES THAT ARE IN SERVICE THAT ARE RELIABLE AS WELL AS UM, IT'LL ALLOW US TO STRETCH OUT HOW OFTEN WE ACTUALLY REPLACE THOSE, UH, POLICE VEHICLES CAUSE I WAS GONNA A BIG BEATING. THEY'RE THEY'RE ALWAYS ON. THEY, UM ENGINE MILES AND EVERYTHING. UM, THEY HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE A LOT SOONER. SO UM, THAT COULD PUSH US OUT TO MAYBE EVERY THREE YEARS. UM AS WE HAVE AN ADEQUATE FLEET FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SO THE COST OF THOSE IT'S BASED ON THE MOST RECENT ESTIMATE THAT WE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN TO COUNCIL FOR POLICE PATROL PEOPLE SO AND THEN THE LAST ITEM IS, UM, A MILLION DOLLAR TRANSFER TO HELP REPLENISH THE FLEA ROTATION.

FINE WE HAVE NOT BEEN CONTRIBUTING AT 100% INTO THIS FUND OVER THE YEARS, SO IT'S STARTING TO COME DOWN IN TERMS OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE. WE HAVE 1.1 MILLION STILL LEFT. TO REPLACE IN THE CURRENT, UM, ROTATION SCHEDULE, AND, UM, THAT WOULD COMPLETELY UH UH, BUILT TO USE UP ALL THE FUNDS FOR THAT, SO THIS WILL HELP KEEP THAT HOLE SO WE CAN KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH THE REPLACEMENTS ON TIME WITHOUT HAVING TO, UM COME BACK FOR MORE. FUNDING IN THE FUTURE FOR THE FUTURE FUND IS THE FLEET ROTATION FUND FUNDED THERE'S FUND BY ALL THE COST CENTERS.

THEY PUT IN A CONTRIBUTION BASED ON THE PATROL THE VEHICLES THAT THEY HAVE ALLOCATED TO THEM AND IT PUTS IN A PERCENTAGE BASED ON YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA REPLACE THIS IN 10 YEARS. IT'S GONNA YOU KNOW, FEASIBLY BE THIS MUCH IN 10 YEARS AND IT YOU KNOW, IT'S A CONTRIBUTION THAT HITS THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR, SO IT KEEPS THE BUDGET KIND OF, UM, MORE FLAT VERSUS UP AND DOWN. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA ANSWER THE QUESTION. WHAT FUND IS THE WHAT IS THE MONEY GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED TO REPLENISH THE FLEET ROTATION FIVE. WELL, THIS THIS WOULD BE IF IT'S A HIGH PRIORITY FOR YOU. IN THE EXERCISE, YOU WOULD COME PROBABLY FROM GENERAL FUND OR YOU KNOW? SO IN GENERAL BECAUSE OF THE WES SO TO SUPPORT THE PURCHASE OF SIX YES. OK, SO THIS THIS BOY IS IN ADDITION TO YOU KNOW, SIX WOULD MAKE THEIR FLEET AT 19. BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE IT. IT'S JUST ON A BACKUP AND NOT IN THE ROTATION, SO THEY JUST PUT THE ONES THAT THEY'RE NOT USING ANYMORE. THAT ARE THE BEST OF THE ALREADY, UM, HARD USED VEHICLES. ON THE BACK END.

FIVE. SO THE ANTICIPATION IS THAT FISCAL YEAR 25. OUR AD INCOME. GONNA BE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH GOING INTO GENERAL FUND. MOVE $1 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND FLEET ROTATION FUND WITHOUT DECREMENTING, THE GENERAL FUND WHERE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO OPERATE. WE'LL GET TO THAT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SO AGAIN, THESE ARE THESE ARE THE IDEAS OF OUR PRIORITY DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN DO THEM ALL NOW TO MAKE THE DECISIONS LATER. WE'RE JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THE NEEDS ARE

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BUT I PRETTY MUCH GROUP THEM BY PROJECT TYPE HERE. SO OF COURSE, THE TOP TWO WOULD BE THE BOND PROJECT. SO AGAIN, WE SAID WE NEED 3 MILLION ADDITIONAL DOLLARS COMING FROM GENERAL FUND OR, YOU KNOW, SOME SOURCE, UM, TO MAKE THAT PROJECT WHOLE UM SO, ACCORDING TO THE THIRD BULLET POINT THERE UM, ARE PARK BUILDING SO THIS WOULD BE LIKE CONCESSION STANDS, RESTROOMS, STORAGE FACILITIES. UM, ON YOUR ON YOUR, UM AGAIN. I TRY TO, UM I. I TRY TO DO TO SORT MY PROJECT TYPE, SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IF IT'S LABELED AS A BUILDING. IT'S GONNA FALL INTO THIS, UH, CAR BUILDING. SO THERE'S A ALEXANDER ON PAGE ONE. YEAH, I'M STILL ON PAGE ONE.

YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF PARTS. AND YES, THERE'S A LOT OF PARKS AND RECS. SO UM, THERE'S UH ALEXANDER NEEDS A NEW CONCESSION AND RESTROOM STORAGE FACILITY. THAT'S ABOUT 400,000. THERE'S REPLACE THE RESTROOM AT LYONS PARK. UM MY PART STORAGE FACILITY. THE RECREATION CENTER FITNESS CENTER WOULD LOVE TO EXPAND. WE HAD ORIGINALLY DESIGNATED AR FUNDS TO DO THAT, BUT WE HAD TO THROW WHAT WE COULD AT THE FIRE STATION TO GET THE FIRE STATION DONE. SO, UM UM, THEY WANNA EXPAND THE RESTROOM SO THEY CAN ADD SOME SHOWERS, YOU KNOW? HAVE SHOWERS AT A FITNESS CENTER. WE THOUGHT, RIGHT, UM REDBIRD NEEDS TO EXPAND THEIR RESTROOMS. ROY SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT BUILDING NEEDS AT THE, UH, DIFFERENT PARK. SO WHEN YOU ADD THEM ALL UP TOGETHER THOSE BUILDING RELATED, UH, PROJECT ABOUT 2.1 MILLION HOW TO COOK.

SO YES. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? SO UH, SO LIONS PARK? UH, WHAT? WHAT ALL BUT LOOK AT THE LIST, SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COME TO MIND. UM BUT BOTH OF THE SIGNS ARE ONE SIGNS ALREADY ROT FELL DOWN. THE OTHER ONE WAS JUST ABOUT THERE. IT IS A CROSSWALK THAT THERE WAS CLOSE OF IT PUT IN. DO THAT. POSSIBLE PUT IN IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN THE HILL. HE TO CROSS, YOU KNOW, PAINTED OUT SO THAT HAD A CROSSWALK THERE AND THEN. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS INCLUDED IN THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT, UH, ALONG THE TRAIL THAT GOES BACK BEHIND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S SIDEWALKS ABOUT THREE ROAD DOWN IN THE CREEK, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S RIFF RAFF AND THE DRAIN. BUT YEAH, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT IS LIONS PARK. THERE. AS TO SOME, BUT JENNIFER WE HAVE CHANGES OF RECREATION IDENTIFIED EVERYTHING. YEAH. BUT THIS ONE SLIDE IS TAKING EVERYTHING WE SEE IN SUMMARIZING AND SAYING THESE ARE THE TOP PRIORITIES. SO EVERYTHING THAT'S UP HERE. YES IS A NUMBER ONE FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. SO YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF INDIVIDUAL NEEDS, BUT THEY CAN BE ROLLED UP. THEY CAN BE ROLLED UP INTO THESE KIND OF PROJECT TYPES JUST TO YOU KNOW, SO WE DON'T HAVE FIVE SLIDES IDENTIFYING THEM ALL. BUT UM SO I TO TRY TO GROUP THEM TOGETHER. AND, UM SO PARK BUILDING SO BRIDGES AND TRAILS UPDATE. THIS IS KIND OF WHERE THROWING OUT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE USE OF TRAIL FUNDS AND WHAT WE HAVE, UH, VARIOUS PARKS THAT NEED TRAIL UPDATES AND UPGRADES AND BRIDGES TO BE REPLACED. SO FOR WALK AND QUALITY OF HIS LIFE, ALL OF THE PARK PROJECTS THEY'VE IDENTIFIED ARE USUALLY MORE PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU KNOW, RELATED, UM, THAT'S WHY, UH, THEY HAVE PROBABLY TAKE THEM AS A ONE CAUSE. UM, THEY'RE MORE PUBLIC SAFETY. OR THEY, UH, PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENTS. THERE ARE TWO IN HERE. UM, SO THAT PRICE LIKE $800,000 LIGHTING 4.7 MILLION. THAT IS REDOING A LIFE OF REDWOOD PARK DOING REDOING THE LIGHTS AT HARRINGTON PARK, THE BALL FIELD. REPLACING THOSE WITH LED S. UM AND THERE'S ANOTHER PARK IN HERE. I BELIEVE THAT HAD, UM, A BIG PRICE TAG IN TERMS OF LIGHTING. NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT GRANT FUNDING. POSSIBLY THAT COULD HELP. YOU KNOW SOME OF THOSE, UH, SPORTS ASSOCIATION OR OR OR VENDORS THAT, YOU KNOW, OFFER THAT KIND OF FUNDING THAT MAYBE COULD HELP . UM WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT THOSE WHAT'S AVAILABLE OUT THERE , BUT IT'S ABOUT 4.7 MILLION COLLECTIVELY, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. UM THIS WOULD BE RIP RAP. I HAD TO LOOK UP GOOGLE WHAT WITH, SO I PUT A PICTURE IN CASE ANYBODY ELSE NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT RIFF RAFF WAS, UM, SO IT'S REALLY THE ROCKS TO HELP WITH DRAINAGE. UM HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO ARMSTRONG WALKED AROUND ARMSTRONG AFTER A HEAVY RAIN? IT'S LIKE LAKE ARMSTRONG FOR A FEW DAYS. UM SO MY THING. AND I DIDN'T DRAIN IT. AND I'VE NEVER HEARD OF FEAR RAP, OK? UM, LAND PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS. YOU'RE MARKING 100 AND 50,000 FOR THAT. I AND THEN PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE PRIORITY

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SO AGAIN. THESE ARE I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE. AND I'M SORRY.

THIS IS A LIKE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A PRETTY PRETTY EXTENSIVE, UM. ON CURIOUS GOT I ME AGAIN AT THE HIGHLIGHTS. OK? YES THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, SO I HAVEN'T NO NOTATED AT THE BOTTOM. BUT YES, LET ME JUST SPEAK THAT OUT LOUD. SO IF IT HAS A GRAY HIGHLIGHT, IT JUST MEANS THAT, UM THEY HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE D CDC BOARD AT SOME POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE FUNDING FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS. SO I'M JUST HIGHLIGHTING THOSE THAT, UM LET ME CIRCLE BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, BAR AND PROBABLY JUST CONTACT WITH THE PREVIOUS STAFF WAS 80 STAFF. OK, JUST TO CLARIFY SO WE WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION TO SEE IF WE CAN WHAT WE CAN GET OUT OF, UM, THE D CDC IF THEY CAN SUPPORT ANY OF THESE OR NOT IN THAT CASE, I WANNA MAKE ANOTHER PLUG FOR DISTRICT FIVE BECAUSE CHRIS IS PARK. I MEAN, IT'S ANY IMPROVEMENTS OF THAT PART. PLAYGROUND THERE AND THEN 11 YEARS. SO YEAH, IF THAT IF THAT'S AN OPTION FOR POSSIBLE BOND FUNDS AND YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT. IF ANY OF THOSE OPTIONS BROUGHT FORWARD AND IF IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, I JUST HIGHLIGHTED IT THAT HEY, IT'S A TRAIL OR RELATED PROJECT THAT YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO MOVE BOND MONEY, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT COULD GO TOWARDS SOME TRAIL CURRENT IN OUR CURRENT PARKS. THOSE ARE JUST HIGHLIGHTING THOSE. I WANT SOME MORE TIME TO KINDA LOOK THROUGH SOME OF THE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. THE LAPTOP INCLUDE. THAT'S JUST 150. THAT THAT IS THAT'S A DONE DEAL. BUT THAT WAS THE MASTER. IF THAT'S A POINT CLUB FASHION WHAT DO I CAN'T FIND? 44 PAGE. 13. I WAS LOOKING FOR MASTER, THEN THAT'S WHAT I MASTER. HAVE SOME OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED THINGS LIKE PARKS, BETTER MONITOR UPGRADES. UM TO UPGRADE THE NOTIFICATIONS. A NEW SOUND SYSTEM. FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. UH, SENIOR CENTER WANTS TO REVAMP. IT'S KIND OF IN THE OTHER CATEGORY THAT WANTS TO REVAMP. UM MARKETING REVAMP THEIR NAME KIND OF NEW SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING BASED ON YOU KNOW HOW THEY REVAMP IT. UM I KNOW A DISTRICT ONE'S MEETING.

THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. CONCERNS HAPPENING IN THE AREA SUCH AS GUNSHOTS, AND I KNOW IT'S BROUGHT UP ABOUT LIFE. HAVING SOME TYPE OF DETECTOR. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S INCORPORATED IN THESE PRICES? THESE JUST BASIC LIGHTS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE I MEAN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN GET SOME ESTIMATES AND STUFF, BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED. THOSE ARE, UM A LOT OF THE NEWER LIGHTS NOWADAYS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SHARING MOST. A LOT OF NEWER

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THAT VERY THING. IT JUST I THINK YOU JUST GET FOR THE TIME. YOUR PRICE TAG. AND UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THESE KIND OF PROJECTS AND ALL THIS, THEY DO NOT HAVE A FUNDING SOURCE OF THEIR OWN. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. UM ONCE WE CAN GET SOME FROM GRANTS, OR PERHAPS D CDC OK, MOVING ON TO TRAFFIC OPERATIONS. UM, TRAFFIC OPERATIONS CURRENTLY, UM, WHEN WE HAVE RED LIGHT CAMERAS, PREDOMINANTLY HIS HIS TRAFFIC NEEDS WERE COVERED BY RED LIGHT. BUT SINCE THAT HAS GONE AWAY, ALL WHERE HE CAN ABSORB WITHIN HIS OPERATIONAL BUDGET IS WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO. SO THESE ARE, UM PROJECTS THAT ARE HE NEEDS IN ORDER TO UPGRADE HIS, UM HIS HIS HIS ITEMS, SO UPGRADE SCHOOL ZONE SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE TOP PRIORITY FOR THEM. UM THAT'S A ONE TIME COST OF $422,000 TO UPGRADE ON THE SCHOOL ZONE. UM EMERGENCY VEHICLE PREEMPTION. UM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEED TO SPREAD OUT OVER THE FIVE YEARS MONTHS TO TALK. YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE NUMBERS INCLUDE 10 YEARS OF SERVICE, SO THAT'S FOR 10 YEARS. AFTER THINGS WERE SO STARTING FIRST YEAR BEING FIRST IN 10 YEARS AGO. SO EMERGENCY VEHICLE PREEMPTION THAT ALLOWS POLICE OR FIRE IS DISPATCHED.

THAT CAN GO SAFELY THROUGH THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE IT IT, UH, PRETTY MUCH SYNCS UP WITH THE SIGNAL, AND THAT WAY THEY CAN GO IN CLEARLY WITHOUT THEIR HESITATION OR HAVING AN ACCIDENT IN THE IN THE INTERSECTION. UM VEHICLE DETECTION EQUIPMENT. THAT'S 1.2 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS. AND CAN YOU MR JOHN, SAY WHAT THAT IS SPECIFICALLY? WELL, CURRENTLY WE HAVE VIDEO DETECTION AT EVERY INTERSECTION. WHAT THAT ALLOWS INTERSECTION TO DO IS TO BE WHAT'S CALLED FULLY ACTUATED. IT BASICALLY. THESE TWO CARS. IT GIVES ENOUGH GREEN TIME FOR TWO CARS. HE'S 10 GIVES NO PRETEND TO, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE TIME MAX IS DOWN IN AND THAT DOESN'T WORK. IT GIVES IT MAXES OUT. IF THERE'S ONE CAR OR 20. SO LET'S SAY YOU'RE TRAVELING DOWN. WE YOU STOP AT LINCOLN.

THERE'S NO CAR THERE. THAT'S BECAUSE THE CAMERAS FAILED. IT HAS A SERVICE THAT DIRECTION REGARDLESS. JUST IN CASE THERE IS A CAR THERE. BUT I AM. I'LL THROW ANYBODY ON THE BUS, BUT I KNEW ABOUT THIS IN 2016. THIS WILL BE THE EIGHTH YEAR I'VE BROUGHT IT UP. SO NOBODY WON'T GIVE ME THE MONEY SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. SO ALL PUBLIC SAFETY FOR SURE. TRAFFIC OPERATIONS. IT INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES 3.8 MILLION OVER FIVE YEARS, INCLUDING, UM, UTILITY FUNDING, UM, CAN PITCH IN FOR THAT. SO THAT'S UPDATING HIS IT INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE SIGNALS TO THE PUMP STATIONS. AND THAT'S COMPLETING IT. BUT THE NEXT TIME I NEED TO OR WATER WAS THE REST OF THE SYSTEM. ARE THESE IN YOUR PRIORITY? OR IS THIS JUST A COMPILATION? WHAT WOULD YOU PUT AS NUMBER ONE NUMBER? I ASK MR. MR BRIDGE. SINCE I HAVE TO YOU ASK HIM SINCE I HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT ALL, UM EMERGENCY VEHICLE PREEMPTION EQUIPMENT. SAVE LIVES. SO THAT WOULD BE A FOR ME THAT WOULD BE ABOVE THE SCHOOL'S OWN STUFF, BECAUSE I CAN MAKE THE SCHOOL'S OWN STUFF. NO TAKE THING A WIRE FOR ANOTHER YEAR. BUT IT'S NOT EACH OF THOSE WORDS. YOU THE VIDEO DETECTION WILL GET PHONE CALLS FROM PEOPLE . WHAT AM I STOPPING? WHY IS THIS ARROW NOT STAYING GREEN LONG ENOUGH. WHY IS IT YOU KNOW, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT EVERYBODY'S PHONE WILL START RINGING SOON. JUST LET YOU KNOW BECAUSE OF THAT. BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS GOING OUT IN 2016. THE MANUFACTURER TOLD ME IT WOULD BE OBSOLETE BY NOW. SO I BROUGHT IT UP. BUT ANYWAY THE IT INFRASTRUCTURE. I'VE GOT 31,000 FT OF FIBER ALREADY TRAVELING BETWEEN INTERSECTIONS AND FACILITIES. THAT'LL FINISH OUT ALL MY STUFF WITH FIBER. I CAN GET RID OF THE OLD RADIOS AND CELLULAR STUFF THAT I HAVE AND TIME MATS WATER SYSTEM IN THE NETWORK ALSO YOU LOOK ON PAGE FIVE OF 13. I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. THE MERGED VEHICLE PREEMPTION WOULD BE MY FIRST PRIOR HEAD UP. THAT'S THAT'S NUMBER ONE BEING THE TEXT SHOULD BE NUMBER TWO. I HEAR YOU RIGHT IF YOU WANT YOUR PHONE NOT TO RING BUT FOR SCHOOL ZONES. I PICKED THAT SECOND ENDING VIDEO FOR THE AND AGAIN. THESE ARE LISTED ON PAGE FIVE. UM AND IT'LL SHOW YOU HOW IT'S HOW IT'S PLANNING TO BREAK IT OUT. UM, OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, SO THESE ARE NOT COSTS THAT WOULD BE INCURRED IN THE VERY FIRST YEAR. UM SO YOU CAN SEE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, EMERGENCY VEHICLE PREEMPTION TO DO OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. IT WOULD BE, UM SO THAT'S ROW 80 SORRY. NO ROW P TWO UM IT WOULD BE 119,000 A YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO CHANGE OUT THOSE INTERSECTIONS.

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NOBODY DOES 40 ON CAMP WITH THEM ANYWAY, SO THEY'RE YOU KNOW FOR THE FIRE STATION. IT JUST BRINGS MORE ATTENTION THAT THERE'S A FIRE STATION THERE. 36 INCH SIGNS ANYWAY. I THINK, THOUGH, WITH THAT, BUT I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE AN OFFLINE CONVERSATION. OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

BUT I KNOW THAT MY CONVERSATION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A TRAFFIC CONTROL LIGHT. THEY HAVE A NEW STATION. YEAH. BECAUSE THEY'RE IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO YEAH, HE DIDN'T KNOW. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT IS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

YEAH, IT IT'S FOR A SIGN IN THE MEETING, EACH DIRECTION THE SIGN ON THE ROADSIDE EACH DIRECTION.

THAT IS SOLAR POWERED, AND IT'S EDGE LIT WITH YELLOW LED S THAT RIGHT IT'S GOT THE FIRE TRUCK ON IT JUST BRINGS ATTENTION THAT THERE'S A FIRE STATION, AND IT'S ABOUT 350 FT. IN ADVANCE IN EACH DIRECTION OF THE FIRE STATION, SO THEY'LL SEE IT. AHEAD OF THE FIRE STATION. POINT BEING. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IT WASN'T IN THE PLANS ORIGINALLY, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THINK IT ASKED. SO OK AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE STAY, YOU KNOW, OVER FIVE YEARS TIME. BUT BUT YOU'RE SAYING ALL THESE ARE 10 YEAR? YES. IN YOUR LIFE PROJECT? YES. WELL, THE WARRANTY FROM DAY ONE WILL BE 10 YEARS. I MADE SURE TO GET THE MOST WARRANTY I COULD OUT OF ALL OF CAUSE THAT THAT'S THE ISSUE I HAVE NOW A LOT OF US ARE TO WARN YOU, AND IT WAS ALL INSTALLED AT THE SAME TIME, SO EVERYTHING STARTING TO GO OUT AT ONE TIME. BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD RED LIGHT FUNDING, I WAS ABLE TO BUY EVERYTHING OVER TWO YEARS AND NOW I I'D LOVE TO MAINTAIN 12 AT A TIME. THERE'S A FEW OTHER ITEMS, UM, MAY NOT SURVEY ON THE HIGH OF HIS LIST, BUT YOU KNOW SOME CONTROL EQUIPMENT, SOME SIGNAGE SERVER RELOCATING THE SERVER THAT'S HERE AT CITY HALL DOWN TO THE SERVICE CENTER. THAT'S TRAFFIC RELATED, UM, AUDIBLE, UH, PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS REPLACING ALL OF THOSE, UM, SO ALL OF THAT TOGETHER ABOUT 468,000 YOU MENTIONED THE SCHOOLS ARE AND IT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT CITY ADMINISTRATION IS DEALING WITH.

THERE'S MULTIPLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS, SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S HAVING A SCHOOL CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT THEM. HANDLING ALL SCHOOLS AND TYPE STUFF, INCLUDING CROSSING GUARDS AND ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF, AND YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT SO THAT'S SOME INTERNAL STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO WORK OUT. STILL. THAT WE GOT WORK TO DO THERE.

BUT WE GO RIGHT. REGULAR SO WE TALK ABOUT THAT, OR SO OK, UH, MOVING ON TO PUBLIC WORKS. UM, SO THAT'S REALLY PAGE FOUR AND FIVE. UM SO A LOT OF THE PUBLIC WORKS ITEMS THEY DO HAVE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. UM, WHETHER IT'S UTILITY FUND. UM SANITATION FUND FOR ALI PROJECTS OR STORM WATER FEES FOR DRAINAGE PROJECTS. SO UM OUT OF THE 78,000,041 MILLION CAN INCLUDE THE BOND PROJECTS THAT ARE REMAINING SENIOR RIDGE ROAD AND THE SERVICE CENTER, UM, ARE INCLUDED IN THAT 41 MILLION TOTAL. IT ALSO INCLUDES 11 MILLION IN THERE FOR AMI. UM SO THE OTHER NEEDS, THOUGH, HOWEVER , WITH PUBLIC WORKS, SO THE FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO NEEDS A NEW AGE VAC. UM AND THAT'S ABOUT 76,000. A DOLLARS THE FUEL PUMPS AT THE SERVICE CENTER, SO WE HAVE A FEW PUMPS THAT ARE IN GROUND. AND THEY HAVE BEEN, UM, OPERATIONAL SINCE 1987 1986 SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, THEY HAVE BEEN STILL, YOU KNOW, PASSING THE ANNUAL INSPECTION THEY HAVE TO DO WITH THE ENVIRONMENT YOU KNOW, TO ENSURE THERE'S NO LEAKS AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING IN THE GROUND, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE RUNNING OUT OF, UM, THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE VIRTUALLY PAST. UM THE YOUTHFUL LIFE OF THOSE FUEL PUMPS THAT THEY WANT TO, UM, TAKE THEM OUT OF THE GROUND AND PUT ABOVE GROUND, UM, FUEL TANK, SO THE IDEA WAS TO DO THIS IN CONJUNCTION WHEN WE DID THE SERVICE CENTER RENOVATION, BUT SINCE I HAVE BEEN RIGHT? UM OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT HAPPENED. SO THIS UM COULD BE A STAND ALONE PROJECT AND AT TODAY'S, UH, RATES. IT'S ABOUT 300,000 TO DO THAT. SO THAT WOULD BE, UM A HIGH PRIOR UM, SOME UTILITY PROJECTS SO THEY WOULDN'T DO AN AERIAL PIPELINE ASSESSMENT ABOUT 100,000. THIS IS LIKE A ONE TIME, UM, STUDY. IF YOU WILL TO ASSESS ALL OF OUR AERIAL PIPELINES TO IDENTIFY YOU KNOW

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THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING PUBLIC WORKS RELATED FOR F ONES. JEFF BROWN. ON THE WE STILL HAVE AN IN HOUSE CONCRETE. FOR THAT. OR LARGELY USING OR IS THIS HEY, I SAY STRAIGHT DIVISION IS UNDERSTAFFED, YOU KNOW? HARD TO FILL POSITIONS SO THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE THE MANPOWER. TO DO AS MUCH AS THEY USED TO. IT'S SOME SO QUESTION. EVERYTHING WE'VE LOOKED AT. COMES TO 78 MILLION YES, YOU GOT, LIKE A 20 MILLION POLICE STATION IN THAT TOTAL SO SOMETHING YOU CAN PROBABLY TAKE OFF LOOKING AT LIFE HERE AND IN THE PREVIOUS FIVE. SOME OF THESE EXPENSES.

DURATION OF EXTENDED PERIODS OF YEARS. SO IF YOU WERE TO DECORATE, LIKE AN 800,000 IS OVER FIVE YEARS SHOULDN'T THAT FOR WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. 800,000 DIVIDED BY FIVE AND THAT

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SO THE 78 MILLION IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. FOR THIS. LIKE THE LAST LINE $800,000 TO BE SPENT OVER FIVE YEARS. YOU ABOUT 800,000 BY FIVE. BUT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT LEAST SPENDING THIS YEAR 25. NO BECAUSE WHAT I DID WHEN WE, UH IT'S HARD TO TELL. BUT FOR EXAMPLE, LET ME GIVE YOU PERFECT MAYOR. TO YOUR POINT, THOUGH. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD COUNCIL IS LIKE, FOR INSTANCE. I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WE HAVE NOT DONE A LOT OF THE PLANNING. THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING TO REALLY LAY OUT WHEN THIS STUFF IS GONNA BE DONE, RIGHT? SO, FOR INSTANCE, THAT WATER MASTER PLAN WOULD THEN TELL US WHAT THE REAL ISSUES ARE, AND THEN OVER A 15 YEAR PERIOD, WHICH IS WHERE I'M REALLY HOPING THAT I CAN TAKE US , RIGHT? AND WE CAN SAY OK, THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA SPEND THIS THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA SPEND THAT IT'S ALL GONNA BE DOCUMENTED. THERE'S NO WAY I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU DOING THE FUEL PUMPS WITHOUT PLANNING AT LEAST THE FIRST WHERE THE SERVICE CENTER IS GONNA BE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA DO IT TWICE, RIGHT? IT'S THAT TYPE OF STUFF. EVEN THE DRAINAGE TYPE STUFF, RIGHT? WE CAN DO A DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN THAT REALLY LOOKS AT WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THEN WE CAN PLAN OUT OVER THE YEARS WE CAN DO THE SAME FOR PARKS. WE CAN DO THE SAME FOR A LOT OF THIS STUFF. AND SO YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING HERE TODAY, AND I'VE GONE THROUGH THIS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL IS MAYBE WE FOCUS ON PLAYING. FOR 25 AND REALLY GET REAL DATA AND DETAILS FOR YOU GUYS TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS IN THE FUTURE. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING IS BECAUSE THE $78 MILLION LOOKING AT NUMBER OF PROJECTS YOU THERE'S SOME OTHER EXTENDING OVER FIVE YEARS, SOME OF OUR X NUMBER OF YEARS. OF $78 BILLION STICKER SHOCK. COULD BE OVERSTATED BY MAYBE WELL, I WILL SAY IF YOU LOOK AT ON PAGE 585 THROUGH 88. I HAD LABELED THEM AS ONGOING BECAUSE THEY'RE ONGOING THINGS, BUT IT ALREADY HAS THE ANNUAL AMOUNT IN THERE. 1 MILLION OR 50,000 OR 200,000 IS SPREAD OUT OVER THE FIVE YEARS, SO ACTUALLY, IT'S REALLY THE 78 MILLION STILL COMES TO THAT SOMETHING IS THE DRAINAGE IS 800,000 FT LINE THAT IS, UM 87 ON PAGE FIVE. SO FOR FY 25. IT WOULD BE 200,000 FOR FY, 26, 100 AND 50. I MEAN THE TOTAL VALUE, SO I MEAN, IT'S BROKEN OUT, AND THAT'S WHERE I GOT MY SUBTLE OH, I'M SORRY. NOW ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THAT IT'S NOT $800,000 THAT 78 MILLION.

WHICH IS WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT. BECAUSE NOW THE SPREADSHEET DECREMENT OR INCREMENTS THAT 800,000 OVER FIVE YEARS, WHICH THAT DOESN'T TELL ME, BUT IT DOES. SO THERE'S THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION. PERHAPS SPACE. NO IT IT'S JUST LIKE I'M THINKING IF THAT'S FIVE YEARS, THEN IT'S REALLY NOT 800,000 WE'RE PLAYING WITH. IT'S SOMETHING LESS BUT REALLY IF THIS SLIDE WERE TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN FY 25. AT 800,000 SHOULD BE TECHNICALLY ABOUT 200,000. IT SHOULD BE 600,000. YEAH. FOR I'M SORRY. IT SHOULD BE 1,000,000. BUT THERE IT IS, OK. THAT'S A TOTAL VALUE DOUBLES IN THE DETAILS. OK SO THAT'S EVERYTHING FROM A ONE PERSPECTIVE. OF COURSE, THERE'S MORE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN READ THAT, UM LATER, BUT THE NEXT SECTION WE'RE GOING INTO IS TALKING ABOUT FUNDING STRATEGY, SO YOU DON'T NEED A BRIEF STRETCH. AND WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ALMOST TWO HOURS. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK? TILL NEXT TUESDAY. KEEP MARCHING OFF, TAKE TAKE A SHORTER BREAK AS POSSIBLE. COME BACK. OH, TIME.

THE 744. OK? STAMP IS ON AIR JUST CAME BACK ON. WE GREEN LIGHT ALL THE WAY TO GO TIME STEP 750. OH, REALLY GET INTO FUNDING STRATEGY. ACTUALLY UM, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT'S JUST BEEN THROWN AT YOU IN A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER. UM CERTAINLY WHEN WE, UH, LEAVE TONIGHT. WANNA WALK AWAY THAT YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COME WITH, YOU KNOW, GET SOME KIND OF DIRECTION OR CONSENSUS OF, OF MAYBE NARROWING DOWN SOME OF THESE, UH, PROJECT TYPES AND PROJECTS.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO DO IS DO A PRIORITY EXERCISE. YOU'VE HEARD IT, YOU KNOW, IRONIES AND SOME, UM, FROM THE STAFF KIND OF HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THEIR PRIORITIES. SO WE'RE GONNA TRY THIS. HOPEFULLY IT WORKS OUT. WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS START WITH SMALL GROUPS. OK?

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OTHERWISE YOU'D BE TURN THROUGH THIS THING. FIVE MINUTES, OK UNTIL EIGHT O'CLOCK. THAT THAT TIME IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY CHAMPIONS. THEY CAN DO IT. NOW IS THE FIVE ITEMS. FIVE MINUTES.

YOU'RE CHAMPIONS. LET'S GO IF YOU NEED SOME EXTRA PAPERWORK ON . 25. NOT ABOUT EXERCISE FOR YOU. EVERYTHING WE'VE SEEN. AND YOU SAY IT'S STILL THERE'S NO NEED OF DOING. CITY MANAGER.

THERE'S NO NEED OF DOING THE FUEL PUMPS. IF WE CAN'T DO THE NEW SURGERY, YOU COULD SAY OR OTHER. JUST START OFF. THAT'S NOT GONNA GET DONE. YOU KNOW, ON THE PLAN, I. I WAS LOOKING AT AMI. WELL, WE GOT FIVE. YEAH, YEAH. THAT. SUCH AS ARE WE INTERESTED BY FIVE? ESPECIALLY WHEN I YES, MA'AM. ASSESSMENT MASTER PLAN IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THAT INCORPORATE THE DRAINAGE AND EROSION OF BRIDGES. NO, THAT'S A MASTER PLAN WOULD BE EVALUATING WHAT'S GOING ON.

ACTUALLY HIRING A CONSULTANT. DO AN ASSESSMENT TYPE OF THING WITH SO THEY SENT IT TO SOMETHING ELSE IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA I. WE SO THIS TIME THEY WORK. THE FIELD HOUSE. WE CAN DO THAT. SO YOU. THROUGH MY JOHN WAS SO HOT. IS THIS ONE? LIKE IT'S WHATEVER YOUR TOP RIGHT ALL THE BEST. ALL THE OPTIONS. I FEEL. LIKE TO BE SPECIFIC. WE'RE JUST GONNA BE FOCUS ON WHAT YOU THINK THIS IS RGC Y. SO IT WASN'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, HE SAID THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME ELSE AND THEN AS THE MEMBER AND MAYORS ABOVE HALFWAY THROUGH TWO MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS. WE'RE TURNING OUT OF FIVE. WE HAVE 45. WE'RE 80% THROUGH. MR CHAMPIONS. I WANT TO HEAR THE COUNCIL OF CHAMPIONS BABY. I GUESS I WANNA DO THAT. THAT'S SOME MONEY. BUT I WE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN THEM MORE

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WHATEVER. I MEAN, THIS IS. GOT YOU. HERE WE GO. THANK YOU. WITH THEM TO SEE WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN RELIGION OR SOMETHING, AND THEN LEAVES ARE YOU KNOW? RIGHT. FIVE MINUTES ARE UP. FROM THE 95 MINUTES. OK? AND USE EVERY DAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL GOOD. WE'RE READY. HOW ABOUT I START AT THAT END OF THE TABLE? YOU WANT TO DESIGNATE YOUR SPOKESPERSON? SO WHY DON'T YOU TELL US WHAT YOUR FOR YOUR PROJECTS ARE AND BILL HOUSE. LET ME SAY SOMETHING. HVAC ROOF REPLACEMENT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T YEAH. UH, AS FAR AS POLICE AND FIRE WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING THE ENGINE. AND REPLENISHING THE POLICE FLEET. THE FIRE ENGINE. WHO BY THE QUEEN. AND YES, THE QUINT. AND THE, UH, POLICE PATROLS. VEHICLES. OK? AND THEN, UH, HAVE THE BEST OF HANDWRITING, BUT FIRST TRAFFIC OPERATIONS WERE AS FAR AS TRAFFIC OPERATIONS WERE IN THE VEHICLE. OK, AMI. THAT VEHICLE DETECTION INCLUDE THE PREEMPTION ONE OR IS IT THE MAIN ONE? COUNCIL. THAT IS THAT THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE DETECTION. IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN? NO, NO. THAT THE NUMBER NUMBER RIGHT. YOU. AND I CAN RECORD ON MY FROM NUMBER THAT IS A QUICK CAMPUS NUMBER TWO. ALL RIGHT, WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO IT FROM THE MAYOR AND OK? OUR NUMBER ONE IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING. NUMBER TWO IS AMI. JUST NUMBER THREE IS A SERVICE CENTER. BEFORE IS THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE PREEMPTION. JUST DIFFERENT THAN THE MEANING OF PROTECTION. AND THE LAST ONE IS OUR WATER WASTE WATER MASTER PLAN. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO BUY CLEAN ON NO, NOT DANIEL BELL.

RIGHT? I WAS NUMBER SIX. JUST I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT GREAT PRODUCER THIS M JENNIFER, OUR NUMBER ONE

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A HOUSE. UH, NUMBER FOUR. REGIONAL DISPATCH UPGRADES. AND NUMBER. FIVE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING FACILITY. OK QUESTIONS THAT DID NOT SAY THAT IS HIGHLY LIKELY. AC FOR THE FIELD HOUSE CAN BE PAID FOR BY THE STATEMENT. AND THEREFORE SHOULD BE DROPPED OUT AS WELL. I I NEVER SAID DROPPED OUT, AND HERE'S THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE IF IT'S ONE OF YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITIES, THEN IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO GO. CDC AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS COUNCIL'S PRIORITY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. NO. THAT SO WITH THREE GROUPS, RIGHT SO THERE'S SOME.

THERE'S SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU. I WAS UNIVERSAL. POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING WAS IN TWO FIELD HOUSES IN TWO. SO THAT THERE IS SOME OVERLAP RIGHT BETWEEN VEHICLE PROTECTION AND PRINT PREEMPTION. UM SO THE SAME THINGS? NO. THAT SAME THING. NO. NOW THE VEHICLE PREEMPTION IS WHERE THE POLICE AND FIRE CAN STOP A STOP. WHAT IN THE BEER DETECTION IS A CAMERA THAT SAYS LET'S PUT IT. LET'S LOAD THREE CARS GO THROUGH THE TRAFFIC LIGHT RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT JOHN SAID IF THE CAMERA FAILS, IF DEFAULTS TO A MAX FUNCTION THAT I DIDN'T KNOW TILL TONIGHT. RECENTLY, I PICKED UP DETECTION OVER THE, UH THE OTHER ONE PREEMPTION PREEMPTION LIKE I CAN'T, UM I DON'T KNOW DANVILLE'S POLICY. BUT DALLAS WE HAD TO COME TO A COMPLETE STOP OF EVERY INTERSECTION NO MATTER WHAT. WHEN IT WAS GREEN OR NOT. PEOPLE ARE NOT EDUCATION. I DON'T KNOW OUR POLICY. FIRST RESPONDERS. SO YOU KNOW, I CAR SO SLOW DOWN AND GET OUT OF THERE SCARE SOME OF THEM. GRANDSON DETECTION OF VEHICLE DETECTION. TWO SEPARATE.

THIS IS EMERGENCY VEHICLES ONLY. AND THEN THIS IS JUST THAT. HAVE TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN THE CONTROLS AND THE TIMING. STUFF BECAUSE, LIKE NO, AND THAT'S HIS NUMBER. YEAH, JOHN SAID THAT WAS IT SO WE ALL AGREED ON ONE WELL, NO. SO YOU HAVE THREE WITH AMI TWO, WITH POLICE BUILDING TWO. SO IF YOU WERE GONNA SAY THOSE WERE YOUR PRIORITIES, RIGHT? AMI POLICE BUILDING A FIELD HOUSE, WHICH THAT'S CERTAINLY DOABLE. BUT THEN YOU HAVE A WATER MASTER PLAN ON DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN WHICH EACH HAVE ONE, YOU KNOW. ONE IS TECHNICALLY DRINKING WATER WHEN IT'S DRAINAGE, BUT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO COMBINE THOSE TWO SEPARATE DOCUMENTS, BUT AN EXERCISE TO DO THAT, RIGHT? AND IT LOOKS LIKE SERVICE CENTER ONE TRAFFIC CONTROL ONE REGIONAL DISPATCH ONE. SO MAYBE OF THOSE WE HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION ON LIGHT. THREE. WHAT IF WE TOOK THESE OTHERS WHERE? LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME OF THOSE, AND WHERE YOU STAND. UM, SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME CLEAR DIRECTION. YOU KNOW? THE REGIONAL DISPATCH. I FEEL LIKE THE C AD SYSTEM. THAT'S THAT'S GONNA MOVE FORWARD. THE REGIONAL DISPATCH AND TERMS OF THE NEW FACILITY. THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF SPECIFICALLY OUR CAPITAL PLAN, SO I'M NOT I'M NOT SO SURE THAT YOU SHOULD SPEND A LOT OF TIME WORRYING ABOUT THAT. NOW. LIKE

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POLICE ON FIRE RIGHT? YEAH. THESE PLANNING TOOLS ARE DEFINITELY VERY IMPORTANT AND WILL HAPPEN. PAVES THE WAY FOR MAKING A PLAN. AND PLUS, WE'RE DOING THE COMP PLAN, RIGHT? SO, UM YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE DEFINITELY SOMETHING YOU COULD COMBINE PLANNING DOCUMENTS IF YOU WANT TO PLAY THEM. WATER MASTER PLAN DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN IF THAT MADE SENSE TO EVERYBODY AND COULD DESIGNATE THAT AS A FOCUSED AREA SO RIGHT? SO HOW MUCH CAUSE YOU KNOW, THIS DOES CONFIRM LOOK AT OUR CURRENT WORK PLAN. YOU LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT THAT WE GOT FROM A SIMILAR EXERCISE THAT WE DID BACK. WHAT WAS IT NOVEMBER DECEMBER. NO SO IS THERE ANYTHING BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE OF NEW ITEMS HERE, BUT MOST OF THESE ITEMS ARE WHAT YEAH. SO IS THERE ANYTHING? IT'S ON THAT DOCUMENT. THAT WE DON'T HAVE ON HERE. FOR 2020 25. AND I KNOW THAT EXERCISE. THEY WERE KIND OF BROADER AND NATURE TOO. IN KNOWING THAT WE COULDN'T SAY THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS IN THE FIRST YEAR. WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE LIKE A FACILITY ASSESSMENT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW. WE NEED A NEW LIBRARY. DO WE NEED A NEW POLICE STATION? ONE OF MY THESE ARE DEFINITELY A LOT MORE SPECIFIC ITEMS. SO THOSE ITEMS WERE BUILDING NEEDS ASSESSMENT. IS UNDER WAY NOW. PUBLIC SAFETY. WHAT I DEEM THE PUBLIC SAFETY OPERATIONAL SINCE YOU GUYS HAVE COMBINED AND POLICE AND MICRO SEPARATE. I MEAN, I CAN. COM QUESTION BECAUSE WE HAD A BUILDING. LEAVE ASSESSMENT. 2018 WHAT'S THIS? THIS IS AN UPDATE OF PRE BUT THAT'S REALLY A 24 THAT'LL BE DELIVERED TO YOU. FOR THE 25 BUDGET GOES RIGHT? UM AM. UM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ESSENTIALLY YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A WORK IN PROGRESS, TOO. OBVIOUSLY AS WE GET MORE DATA FROM SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF, THE DOWNTOWN VISION THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT, UM, AND SOME OF THESE PLANNING TOOLS , SO THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF THAT , UH, THAT COULD ALSO BE WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLANTS. UH, WE I'VE USED THOSE BEFORE THOSE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING GRANTS TO ACTUALLY FUND GROWTH NODE STUDIES. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT. BUT YOU KNOW THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. SPECIFICALLY, THAT'S MORE OF A PLANNING TYPE.

WE CAN EVEN LIST THAT UNDER THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS AND THEN THE BOND PROJECTS. WAS THE LAST ONE.

UM C, ABC AND D. AND THE BIGGEST QUESTION THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT IS THE SERVICE CENTER. BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FUNDS. REALLY DO. PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE DONE. SERVICE. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S FOUR MAIN PRIORITIES RIGHT NOW. THE AMI POLICE BUILDING THE FIELD HOUSE. IS PLANNING DOCUMENTS TO TOOLS THAT INCLUDE THE WATER OF THE DRAINAGE. YOU SAY THE COMP PLAN.

AND THEN YOU HAVE SMALLER PROJECTS, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE THE DETECTION. TRAFFIC CONTROL.

VEHICLES IT'S ONGOING OPERATIONS . UM, BUT WE DO LIST THOSE RIGHT AND THEN THE SERVICE. SO IF YOU WANNA CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT YOU LOOK AT THE 25, YOU COULD SAY THE FIVE WOULD BE AMI. THE POLICE BUILDING THE FIELD HOUSE, THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS. IN THE SERVICE. SOUNDS. WE HAVE CONSENSUS. SO SERVICE CENTER, BUT WE I PUT IN THE ROOM, RIGHT? SERVICE CENTER AND THEN KIND OF CRICKET, SO I MEAN, ARE THERE ANY I MEAN, I? I TALK ABOUT FUN AND STRATEGIES. BUT ANY OPTIONS.

AVAILABLE TO US EVEN CONSIDER AT THIS POINT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE SAYING EARLIER FOR FUNDING OPTIONS. I THINK THE POTENTIAL OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT DAVID AND I HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH IN TERMS OF FUNDING, RIGHT? $20 MILLION LOAN, NOT A BOND. VERY CLEAR. IT'S NOT A BOMB, RIGHT?

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BEING PART OF THAT, AND THEY SAID, ABSOLUTELY WE CAN DO THE NICE THING IS, IT'S NOT A BAR.

NOW. IT'S ALONE. CITY GOT A GENERAL OBLIGATION LOAN OF THE CITY WOULD TAKE ON. SO IT'S A GEO LO INSTEAD OF A GEO BOND, CORRECT, BUT IT'S NOT AC O BOND, EITHER. NO AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS THE QUESTION BECAUSE FOR THE BYLAWS OF THE B CD DC MAYBE THEY COULD HELP WITH WITH SOME THAT THEY COULD DO THAT, BECAUSE THE D CE DC CAN FUND UH, NOT ONLY CITY FACILITIES BUT CAN FUND CITY OPERATIONS. SO IS THIS WE'RE BORROWING FROM OURSELVES. WE'RE BORROWING FROM THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION AND EXTERNAL FINANCIAL INSTITUTION, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE A BOMB. YES. YOU WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO VOTER APPROVAL. CORRECT. BECAUSE I RECALL THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS STILL FIGHTING ABOUT THE CERTIFICATES ABOUT OBLIGATION AND THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND. IT WAS DEFEATED IN THE LAST S WITH THE 88TH SESSION. THEY THE SUBJECT OF DOING AWAY WITH THE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION. WHICH WOULD NOT ALLOW THE CITY TO ISSUE A SEAT OR WITHOUT IT NEVER CAME UP IN TERMS OF THE VOTE. BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO STILL PLAY WITH THAT, THAT'S YOU KNOW A STATE OF REPRESENTATIVE OR A STATE SENATOR. IT COULD COME UP IN THE 89TH SURE. WE SHOULD DO IT FAST. THAT'S WHAT SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. RATHER THAN COUNTING THAT POSSIBLE PROHIBITION. EM FOR US AND HANDCUFF US. DO A LOAN AGAINST THE THIRD PIPE, AN OUTSIDE THIRD PARTY FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WOULD BE MORE OFFICIAL. AND EXPEDIENT TO LOOK AT THE CO OR GO. YEAH. AND WE'RE STILL EXPLORING SOME OF THAT STUFF AND IT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S PRETTY REASONABLE RATES AND EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW. UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE FOUR TO QUARTER FIVE PAST. DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THAT WAS? IT WAS IT ACTUALLY WASN'T BAD. I MUST SAY IT WAS 3.5. YEAH, IT WASN'T BAD BECAUSE OF GET FIVE BUCKS EARNEST MONEY HERE. SO I MEAN, ARE YOU IS THIS ARE YOU RECOMMENDING? THAT WE CONSIDER THAT OPTION. I WANNA GET WHERE I'M SHARING CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW. NOT READY TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. BECAUSE I'M STILL GETTING DETAILS. I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND SOMETHING UNLESS I KNOW SPECIFICALLY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GOOD TO GO WITH THAT. I JUST IN ANOTHER PART OF MY LIFE AT THE MOMENT WHERE I'VE GOT OVER $5 MILLION IN DEBT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO REFINANCE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. AND I WENT UP TO SOME FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS WERE AT 4.5 AND THEY SAID OH, WE CAN'T TOUCH YOU AT 4.5 ANYTHING WE WOULD DO TO REFINANCE TODAY YOU'RE GONNA BE PAYING MORE THAN 4.5. SO WHEN EVERY IF WE CAN GET ANYTHING 4.5 OR LOWER, WE REALLY GOOD SHAPE RIGHT NOW. NOT LIKE THE POLICE BUILDING RIGHT? THERE WAS YOU KNOW, TWO PEOPLE. TWO GROUPS, UH, SUPPORTED THAT IF THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIORITIES THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO BE A BOND. YOU KNOW, THAT'S MORE SIGNIFICANT. WE'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS. I'M CONFIDENT WE'LL HAVE MORE DETAIL. ONCE WE DO THE OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS, BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS I'VE ALSO BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH CEDAR HILL. UH, TO SORT OF SPECIFICALLY AND ALSO LANCASTER, BUT ABOUT WHERE THE STRATEGIC LOCATIONS OF THOSE PUBLIC UH, SAFETY FACILITIES GO BECAUSE MATRIX CONSULTING DID THOSE ALSO AND SO THEY'RE VERY EXCITED BECAUSE THERE IS DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDINGS AND THOSE OTHER CITIES AND KNOWING THAT WE'RE DOING ONE NOW, TOO. MAYBE THERE'S SOME SWEET SPOTS THAT COULD HELP SERVICE. INSTEAD OF JUST ONE MUNICIPALITY TAKING ON THAT FULL RESPONSIBILITY. JUST FOR SOME BACKGROUND THAT TO REMEMBER. BUT MAYBE THEY WON'T. WE WERE PERMITTED TO GO TO 21.6 MILLION BOND IN 2018 BECAUSE OF OUR RATING. AND THE FACT THAT WE CAN GO TO 21.6 MILLION WITHOUT DECREASING TAXES. THAT WAS OUR CAT. YOU CAN'T GO BEYOND 21 6. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A AT A BOND TWO MAJOR FACILITIES AND EXCESS OF 20 MILLION. YOU'RE PROUD. YOU'RE VERY LIKELY LOOKING AT A TAX INCREASE. SO THAT'S GONNA BE A PARAMETER YOU GOT IT COULD BE A TUG AND A POLE IN TERMS OF GETTING THAT IN FRONT OF THE BORDERS. WELL WE WOULD BRING ALL THAT BACK TO YOU IN TERMS OF THE AVERAGE ASSESSED VALUE. AND WHAT INCREASE WOULD BE IN EVERYTHING ELSE. THAT'S WHY DOING THE AMI THROUGH A NON

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IT WILL ALONG THAT ONE WAY. BECAUSE IT IS. IT'S ALL REVENUE. AT LEAST AMI. SORT OF PAYS FOR IT. SO LIKE HOW WE FIND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT OPEN FOR ITSELF. BUT THAT'S UH WE STARTED THE BUDGET MEETINGS AND I CHALLENGED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO FIND AN ADDITIONAL $500,000.

DON'T SPEAK. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. SO YOU SPEAK. OK? ACTUALLY. MY FIRST COME BACK WITH THAT. WE'LL BRIEFLY HIT ON SOME OF THE FUNDING STRATEGY THAT HE'S ALREADY KIND OF ALLUDED TO IF YOU ONE OF THE QUESTION WAS, I GUESS WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF WE WERE TO GO OUT AND RUN AGAIN. UM, SO I'VE RAN SOME KIND OF SCENARIOS JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF AN IDEA. SO JUST TO SHOW YOU HERE'S THE 10 YEAR, UH, TAX RATE HISTORY WE'VE HAD VERY LITTLE. UM THE BLUE IS THE INTERESTING SAK A THE DEBT PORTION OF YOUR TAX RATE. THE RED IS WHAT'S OPERATIONS AT O AND M. OK SO ON AVERAGE FROM THE LAST 10 YEARS, I MEAN OUR DEBT PORTION THAT GOES OK, DEBT HAS BEEN ABOUT 6 TO 8% OF THE TOTAL TAX RATE. OK? UM OR THE MOST RECENT, UH, SENATE BILL, THE ONE WITH THAT THAT CAPS IS AT 3.5% THAT SPECIFIC TO THE OPERATIONS ONLY SO THE DEBT PORTION IS NOT EVEN A FACTOR INTO THE CAP IN TERMS OF THE RATE THAT YOU SET.

UM SO AVERAGE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE TAX. THE WHOLE VALUE OUR CURRENT AVERAGE, UM FOR DALLAS COUNTY OR DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. UM, IN THIS PREVIOUS YEAR IS 222,000. OK OUR CURRENT TAX RATE IS 0.646034. SO THE CITY PAID PORTION OF, UH, THE AVERAGE. UH, BILL WAS, UH, $1400. OK, SO IF WE, UM THE DALLAS UH, CENTRAL PHRASE DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE THE ASSESSMENTS OUT YET IN TERMS OF WHAT THE VALUES ARE GOING TO BE TO PREDICT, UM MAYBE A SINGLE DIGIT INCREASE, BUT OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS ON AVERAGE, IT'S BEEN ABOUT 10% OF AN INCREASE, SO IT KIND OF RAN TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. SO IF THEY COME BACK TO US AND SAY THE TAXABLE VALUE, UM INCREASES BY 5% THIS IS APPROXIMATELY WHAT THAT RATE MIGHT LOOK LIKE, AND THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE OF $47 ADDED TO THE AVERAGE. UM, UM, HOMEOWNER. UM IF THEY COME BACK AND SAY THE 10% YOU KNOW, INCREASE IN TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE. THIS IS WHAT THAT AVERAGE WOULD LOOK LIKE. THIS IS MAYBE WHAT THE TAX RATE WOULD LOOK LIKE. UM AND AGAIN, $47 WOULD BE WHAT? UM, THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER. AND THE IMPACT IT SO TALKING ABOUT DEBT. OK SO, UM, THAT 5% 10% THIS IS WHAT THAT TOTAL VALUE WOULD LOOK LIKE. WITH THE 5% INCREASE AGAIN WITH THAT RATE MIGHT LOOK LIKE WHICH GIVES US A REVENUE OF 24 MILLION. IF WE ADD ONE CENT TO THE DEBT PORTION OF THAT RATE, THIS IS WHAT THAT TAX RATE COULD LOOK LIKE, WHICH WOULD GENERATE ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY 383,000.

WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE 10% INCREASE IN HOW THE MATH WORKS, UM, WITH THE SAME, UM KIND OF SCENARIO, ADDING UP, UH, A CENT TO THE DEBT RATE IT GENERATES ABOUT 400,000. OK, UM AND SO THAT, UH, AVERAGE INCREASE TO THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER. UM FROM THE CURRENT WOULD BE ANOTHER $70 , YOU KNOW, APPROXIMATELY TO THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER IF WE WERE TO RAISE THE RATE BY, SAY, A SECOND UM YEAH, ONE SECOND SO GOING TO FOUR SET, FOR EXAMPLE, UM THAT WOULD BE KIND OF WHAT THE TAX RATE WOULD LOOK LIKE. THAT WOULD GENERATE 1.5 MILLION, UM AND ON THE 10% MARKET VALUE INCREASE THERE, UM, IT WOULD GENERATE ABOUT 1.6 MILLION OUR CURRENT, UH, DEBT PAYMENT THAT WE MAKE IS ABOUT 1.5 MILLION EVERY YEAR TO PAY BACK OUR 21 MILLION. SO SAY IF WE HAD ANOTHER $20 MILLION BOND, YOU CAN ANTICIPATE MAYBE ABOUT ANOTHER 1.4 MILLION. YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF A DEBT PAYMENT, YOU KNOW, TO PAY THAT BACK. TO GIVE YOU AGAIN. KIND OF THE IDEA. UM SO THE AVERAGE UH, INCREASE TO, UM, A RESIDENT FROM THE CURRENT VALUE IF WE WERE TO GO UP FOUR CENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WOULD BE THE ANNUAL IMPACT TO THE AVERAGE TO ABOUT 100 AND $87 JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE IF WE DON'T CHANGE THE RATE FROM ON THE OPERATIONS OF, UM IF WE WEREN'T IF WE IF WE WERE TO GO FOR THE FULL 3.5% THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS OPERATION MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, CAN INCREASE THE DEBT PORTION OF THE RATE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW. IT IS POSSIBLY REFLECT.

WELL, THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS ONLY SO WHEN WE SET THE RATE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE PORTION OF THE R. OK, SO YOU HAVE THAT. UM UM SO A NO NEW REVENUE RATE. FIVE,

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WAS GONNA SAY GO NO, GO GREEN LIGHT. TAKE HER TO HER MOUTH. AND IF THAT DS R IS LIKE 0.25, THAT'S THE CEILING. ANYTHING BELOW 0.2 500 SAY GREEN LIGHT. THE GAS. WE HAVE THAT SAME CRITERIA. IN TERMS OF IF WE GO FOR A COMMERCIAL LOAN. BECAUSE GAS WE HAVE ANYTHING IN ITS RULES IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT DS R CAN BE FOR A MEAL. IF THAT'S TOO DEEP, TELL ME GO AWAY. NOW IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, I THINK. UM IN TERMS OF GATSBY, SPECIFICALLY I DON'T KNOW IF THE THERE IS A RATIO BY COMPARISON. THE THING THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS HOW OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL POSITION PUTS US WITH THE CALCULATIONS THAT WILL BE MADE BY THE RATINGS AGENCIES. WHEN WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE WERE READY TO GO OUT FOR ANY BOND OR ANY LOAN. WE WOULD WANT TO GET AN UPDATED RATINGS. WELL, WE WANNA HAVE AN UPDATED RATINGS CALL WITH THE STANDARD AND POOR'S. THE MOODY'S THE FITCH UM , AND SO WE WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UH, UP TO DATE ON THE, UH, ON THE ACTUAL REPORTING. UH, BUT I GUESS LONG ANSWER TO A SHORT QUESTION. IS REALLY UH, THE I GUESS THE STANDARD IS NORMALLY BY THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION.

VERSUS WHAT WE WHAT WOULD BE IN UH, FOR GATSBY. I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN ANYTHING IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH GOING OUT TO BOND COUNCIL. THAT'S BEYOND THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH, SO IN TERMS IN TERMS OF THE BONDS THAT I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE GOING OUT FOR. IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION INFORMATION. AS WELL AS WHAT COMES BACK FROM THE ANALYST. ASSIGNED TO US FROM THE RATINGS THAT YOU SUGGEST IT'S RIGHT. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT THE UNDERWRITERS FROM A COMMERCIAL INSTITUTION WILL IMPOSE A 0.25 DS R. IT JUST WILL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PLAYING WITH TODAY. AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING MORE STRINGENT IN THE GATSBY THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH. THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTION OR IF CASBY SAYS, WE REALLY DON'T CARE. IT'S ONLY GONNA BE BASED ON THE MODERATING FROM THE FROM STANDARD AND POOR'S AND SO FORTH. SO THAT THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION IS. IS THAT THE WHERE'S THAT DS R GONNA PLAY? IF IT'S NOT? THAT'S GONNA BE OK. KNOWN AS THE UNDERWRITERS ARE LOOKING AT THAT 0.25. THEY WON'T I WON'T TOUCH YOU. IF YOU EVER 0.25 THEY ARE, BUT A LOT OF THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT LOAN MONEY TO MUNICIPALITIES, RIGHT. THEY'RE LOOKING AT SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST THAT. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE ASSETS THEY'RE LOOKING AT. UM SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT YEAH, THAT'S REALLY THE ESSENCE OF MY QUESTION. SO I THINK I THINK THE WAY THAT THE NUMBERS

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SO EXPENSES I'M ASSUMING KIND OF LIKE 2 TO 3.5% AND A CONTINUED 5 MILLION IN A TRANSFER INTO THE C IP, UM, THE RATE MODEL THAT WE ADOPTED IN 23 KIND OF A ASSUME WE HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT WAS GOING TO BE A HYBRID APPROACH. WE WERE GONNA CONSIDER SOME DEBT AND CONSIDER CASH. UM OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T GONE DOWN THAT ROAD TO DO, YOU KNOW, TO GO ANYWHERE FURTHER WITH THE DEBT? BUT I GUESS I'LL SHOW THIS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING OVER TIME WITHOUT MAKING ANY UH, I GUESS HAVING A REVENUE BOND OUT THERE TO COVER OUR C IP NEEDS. UM THE FUND DOES CONTINUE TO GROW BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TOWARDS, UM ANY DEBT, SO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY. WE WANTED TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD FOR, UM REVENUE BOND FOR, UH, WATER WASTEWATER TYPE PROJECTS. WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THAT ON WITH THE UTILITY FUND BECAUSE WE'VE, UH KIND OF MADE THAT ASSUMPTION WITH THE RIGHT PART. AND THAT'S ALSO UH, WHERE ANY AM THAT WE HAD YOU KNOW, RESERVED WAS SITTING WITHIN THE, UM THE FUND

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NOW YOU HAVE PLENTY OF MONTHS. YOU HAVE MONTHS TO LOOK AT NOW, BEFORE WE BUDGET STUFF. 01 THING JUST THESE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, THE IT WAS FIRST BRIEF BY THE THREE. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT SIX YEARS AGO, IT WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP TO THE RT C UNTIL ABOUT THREE YEARS. SO DO I. AND BEEN NORMAL FOR TWO YEARS HERE AND DONE BIT OF WORK DONE. I HAVE EMAILS AND I'LL SEND TO THE DOCUMENTING. NO. HM? WE'RE DONE. ARE YOU STILL WILLING TO ACCEPT THE POSITION? I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU RIGHT ON EXCITED ABOUT YOUR PROBATIONARY PERIOD RUNS OUT AT NINE O'CLOCK. YOU DON'T LIKE ME. HE WAS BORN AND BRED IN DUNKIN. YEAH. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE.

[General Discussion]

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SO GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON WHAT WE CAN DO AS COUNSELORS. THAT'S WHY ACTUALLY AT THE LAST MAN, I THINK YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION RIGHT BECAUSE TAYLOR DID THE PRESENTATION ON KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE DIFFERENT VACANCIES. UM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE PRACTICE HAS BEEN THAT THE COUNCIL TRADITIONALLY HAS FILLED THOSE VACANCIES IN THE FALL. THANK YOU. I HARDLY WOULD RECOMMEND YOU DO THAT MORE OFTEN THAN ONCE A YEAR. FIRST OF ALL, UM SECOND OF ALL, I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER ALTERNATES FOR A VARIETY OF THE BOARDS. THEN THAT WOULD HELP. WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT, UM ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, UM, IN THE CASE OF THE D CE DC, THE D CE DC BYLAWS SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT THE REPRESENTATION FROM THE DIFFERENT SECTORS FOR THAT BOARD , AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET BACK TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR BYLAWS. UM SO LIKE THERE'S ONE VACANCY RIGHT NOW, AND I HAVEN'T YET HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT. THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE BOARD TO SEE WHAT SECTOR IS CURRENTLY MISSING BASED ON THEIR BYLAWS, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, UM, RE EVALUATE. IN THE CASE OF PLAIN AND ZONING. I'LL HAVE TO FIND OUT SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS ONGOING COMMUNICATION WITH THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT ONCE I STARTED PROVIDING I THINK I SHARED THIS WITH YOU. JUST THIS WEEK. I'M HERE I START.

SHING, UH, THE COUNCIL OUT THE A R ON FRIDAYS. I DIDN'T SEND A SEPARATE EMAIL EVERY SINGLE FRIDAY TO THE D CE DC SHARING BASICALLY THAT SAME INFORMATION SO THAT I CAN KEEP THE COMMUNICATION, ESPECIALLY WHILE THERE'S NO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TO JUST SO I CAN KEEP THIS COMMUNICATION GOING WITH THAT. AND I KNOW THAT THEY VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT, AND THEY FEEL MUCH MORE ENGAGED. AND THAT'S THE THING IS THE LAST D CDC MEANING? IF ALL SIX OF THEM CURRENT MEMBERS WERE THERE IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER, BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE ENGAGED, RIGHT AND SO AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO DO WITH ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS WHO ARE ON OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT HAVEN'T MET. THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S DISJOINTED, DISCONNECTED. THEY HAVE THEY THEY DON'T GET ANY COMMUNICATION FROM THE CITY. UM SOME OF THE SOME OF THE BOARDS ARE SOME OF THE COMMISSIONS RATHER, UM THERE'S HARDLY ENOUGH PEOPLE ON HIM TO ACTUALLY DO A QUORUM. RIGHT AND I KNOW THAT I'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL RESIDENTS ABOUT I THINK SOME OF THE COMMISSIONS SHOULD REALLY BE EITHER WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE COMBINED, OR MAYBE THEY'RE HELD THE SAME NIGHT IN SIMILAR MEMBERS ARE ON THE COMMITTEE SO THAT THEY CAN SO THAT THEY CAN MEET. LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, I'LL TELL YOU THE ONE THAT'S COME UP TO ME REPEATEDLY IS, UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS AT LEAST TWO OR THREE. I SHOULD SAY TWO OR THREE RESIDENTS HAVE SAID TO ME THEY REALLY FEEL LIKE THE MEMBERS OF THE ZONING. BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. AND THE SIGN BOARD SHOULD BE THE SAME MEMBERS ON BOTH AND THAT THEY SHOULD MEET BACK TO BACK MAYBE FOR THE FIRST HALF HOUR, 45 MINUTES OR WHATEVER IT IS, IS THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. THE SECOND IS THE SIGN BOARD. BECAUSE THE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM ARE SO CLOSELY ALIGNED RIGHT? AND THAT WAY YOU COULD HAVE THE PARTICIPATION. YOU'D HAVE THE QUORUM SO YOU COULD HAVE BOTH BOARDS MEET AND DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE BOARDS, AS STATED IN OUR ORDINANCES, SO YOU KNOW WE GET CREATIVE AND DO SOME OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ONE SOLUTION. OTHER THAN I REALLY THINK COUNCIL SHOULD THINK ABOUT. FILLING THOSE VACANCIES MORE FREQUENTLY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO START AT LEAST. PRACTICE BEFORE. UM, WHEN IT COMES TO FOR ONGOING MONTHLY YOU KNOW AS A CONSTANTLY ADVERTISING WHEN THOSE COME UP AND THEN, UH, SPECIFICALLY SETTING A TIMELINE FOR WHEN YOU'RE GONNA ACCEPT APPLICATIONS, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER POSITION. AND THEN LIKE, UH, EITHER MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OR LETTING THE COUNCIL INTERVIEW THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY THAT I, UH, EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST IS WHERE THE BOARD OR THE COMMISSION THAT HAS THE VACANCY WHERE THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE THE INTERVIEWS AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL.

IN TERMS OF WHO IT IS THAT THEY FEEL LIKE SHOULD BE APPOINTED. THAT WOULD FIT WELL WITH THEM THAT WAY. IT'S NOT TAKING UP SO MUCH OF YOUR TIME AS GRASSROOTS. I THINK A GREAT IDEA, TOO. THE OH, YEAH. THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ALWAYS HAD NINE MEMBERS AND FIVE VOTING MEMBERS DURING THE MEETING. FOUR ALTERNATES. AND SOMETIMES IT WAS TOUGH ON THE ALTERNATES BECAUSE THE FIRST TWO YEARS THEY REALLY DIDN'T PARTICIPATE. BUT THERE WERE ALWAYS NINE MEMBERS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT CHANGED. BACK THEN TO NOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S A CITY'S FAULT. I DON'T THINK IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL'S FAULT. SOMETHING HAS JUST CHANGED. WITH THE WILLINGNESS FOR UH, PARTICIPANTS TO BE DEPENDABLE. AND A POINT THAT WE WILL MAKE ABOUT THIS ISSUE BECAUSE I HEARD ABOUT IT, TOO. UH, I WOULD CALL IF I HAD A TUESDAY MEETING. I THINK MOST OF MY MEETING ON TUESDAY UM BUT, UH, IF I HAD A TUESDAY MEETING, I WOULD TELL MY BOARD MEMBERS. THEY ALL KNEW

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THINGS CAN HAPPEN, BUT MOST OFTEN IF THEY CONFIRM THEY'LL BE THERE. SO IT SAVES YOU THE EMBARRASSMENT FOR THE CITY. IF YOU CAN GET A PROCESS IN PLACE LIKE THAT, AND CONVINCE THE BOARD MEMBERS YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING. YEAH. YOU COULD WALK AWAY ANYTIME YOU WANT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY WE'RE PUTTING THIS ON YOU, BUT YOU GOT A RESPONSIBILITY AND I. I AS A LIAISON HAS A RESPONSIBILITY. TO MAKE SURE I DON'T HAVE 20 PEOPLE IN THAT ROOM. ON ON MONDAY NIGHT. THEN HAVE TO CANCEL THE MEETING. SO I I'D RECOMMEND THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT THAT THEY DO IT AND THAT THERE'S A CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO CONFIRM. ESPECIALLY ON THOSE BOARDS THAT HAVE HABITUAL UM UH NO QUORUMS. UM I. I REALLY THINK I REALLY WOULD EMPHASIZE THAT UNTIL YOU GET THEM FULLY STAFFED. TO UH, GET THE COMMITMENT FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT THEY WILL, BECAUSE IT'S EASY. I'M NOT GONNA I'M NOT GONNA BE THERE MONDAY. FOR WHATEVER REASON, OR RATHER, I'VE ONLY GOT THREE. LOOK UP, FOUR MEMBERS, AND I'VE ONLY GOT THREE. I'VE GOT TO CANCEL THE MEETING. NOBODY LIKES THAT WHEN YOU GOTTA POST THAT BUT IT'S BETTER THAN HAVING 20 PEOPLE SHOW UP AND THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AND WASTE THEIR TIME. WHEN YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING AND ALSO WOULD HAVE DONE IN THE PAST IS IT IS NOT JUST AN AUTOMATIC REAPPOINTMENT, RIGHT? IF YOU LOOK AT ATTENDANCE RECORDS. AND IF PEOPLE AREN'T SHOWING UP, THEY DON'T JUST GET AN AUTOMATIC REAPPOINTMENT TO THE TO THE BOARD, RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. AND IT ALSO SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE ON THOSE COMMISSIONS. MAYBE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND IT'S NICE. THEY CAN SAY THEY'RE ON THAT. EVEN IF THEY DON'T ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY HELD RESPONSIBLE. IF THEY SO YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS THAT NEED TO BE HAD WITH SOME FOLKS. UM, SO FAR WHAT? I'VE HEARD THAT I DO LIKE IS THE SUPPORT EMPOWERING THEM TO HAVE THEIR INTERVIEWS. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE FEEL ABOUT COUNCIL, BUT THAT SEEM LIKE THAT COULD FILL THE GAPS A WHOLE LOT FASTER. WE ARE DOING UM AND THEN THEY BRING TO US THE RECOMMENDATION. THEY WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU COULD INTERVIEW THE FINALIST OR TO WHATEVER IT IS, IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT, AND THEN ULTIMATELY IT'S A COUNCIL DECISION. UM YEAH. SO THAT WAS JUST CONCERNING TO ME ABOUT PEOPLE WERE EXPECTING TO HAVE THEIR ITEMS HEARD. IT WAS ABOUT SIX SPS. ON THE AGENDA FOR THE THAT NIGHT. AND IS THERE ANY TIME FRAME THAT'S ATTACHED. OR IN CONJUNCTION WITH THOSE ITEMS. LIKE DO THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND REAPPLY? THEN? YEAH. UM, AN ADDITIONAL PERMIT FEE. NO, THAT'S NOT SO MUCH WITH THAT RIGHT. BUT THE REPORT THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN MAY TALKS ABOUT THE BARRIERS TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE GROWTH OF THE CITY. THAT'S ONE OF THEM. AND IF WE'RE GONNA GET SERIOUS ABOUT DOING SOME THINGS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RESPONSIVE TO THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS, RIGHT AND SO WE LAID OUT A 4560. PLUS MORE OR LESS. PERIOD. AND WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE A FORUM, THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GONNA HIT THAT. SO THAT IMPACTS US? ABSOLUTELY. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE, UM I DON'T RECALL IT BEING IN THE AR IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE A CONTINUOUS COMMUNICATION ABOUT IF THEY MADE A CORN BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW A CORN WAS MISSED LAST MONTH UNTIL I ATTENDED LAST NIGHT AND HEARD ABOUT IT. SO IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN KEEP UPDATES? ON THE BOARDS OF COMMISSION. LET US LOOK INTO IT. BUT THE CHALLENGE IS RIGHT. YOU DON'T NECESSARILY GET ALL THE INFORMATION THE INFORMATION. ALL WE DO IS POST THE INS. AND A LOT OF TIMES IF THEY UNLESS THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE CORN. THEY'RE GONNA KEEP IT POSTED UNTIL THE MEETING STARTS, AND THEN THEY OR IF THEY REALIZE IT ON FRIDAY THEY MAY CANCEL. BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE COOL. BUT I WOULDN'T KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WHEN THEY DON'T MEET FOR WHATEVER REASON. THAT THE LIAISON WOULD COMMUNICATE THAT TO YOU, AND YOU WOULD COMMUNICATE THAT TO US. YES AND WHAT WHAT WE DO IS WE DO TAKE ATTENDANCE AND THEY SHOULD BE

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AND ANYTHING THAT THAT GOES ON. MEETING AFTER MEETING THERE'S A CHECK BOX FOR EVERYTHING ON THERE THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE AND A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN KEEP NOTES. BUT INCLUDING THE VOTING.

IT SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO PRE PRE PRINTED DOCUMENT THAT THEY KEEP. IT SHOULDN'T ALL BE HANDWRIT LONGHAND BECAUSE IT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER WHEN THEY CAN JUST DO THAT. AND IF THEY CHECK ALL THE BOXES, YOU'LL KNOW WHO WAS THERE. YOU'LL KNOW WHO WAS THERE AND THEY WERE EXCUSED. UM IT IT'S JUST IT'S JUST A TOOL FOR KEEPING THE BOARD MEMBERS ACCOUNTABLE. YES YOU'RE GOOD ENOUGH TO VOLUNTEER AND YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT PAID FOR IT. BUT AT LEAST YOU CAN DO IS UM LET US KNOW IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE THERE. AND IF YOU'RE NOT THERE MANY TIMES. YOU MAY NOT BE REAPPOINTED, YOU MAY BE WITH REMOVED. AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SHORT ON THESE BOARDS TO BEGIN WITH UM, YOU GOTTA TAKE SOME ACTION IF SOMEBODY KEEPS EMBARRASSING YOU BECAUSE TO HAVE AND SOME OF THESE APPLICANTS AND I'VE BEEN THERE. ODDLY ENOUGH, I WASN'T THERE A LOT. I HAD THREE BOARDS AND I DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF SAY, OR IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT TIME. IT WASN'T ME.

IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT TIME. BUT YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING DOWN FROM PLANO. TO HEAR A CASE HERE. YES.

AND THEN NOBODY SHOULD AND SOMEBODY DOESN'T SHOW UP. UM, THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR THAT THE CITY SHOULD KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. SO THEY CAN CANCEL THAT MEETING AND SAVE THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING FROM ONCE COME FROM WAT YOU WANT COME FROM PLANO. THAT'S INEXCUSABLE FOR A CITY THERE.

YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE. ESPECIALLY WITH ONE BOARD THAT REPEATEDLY DOES THIS THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED RIGHT AWAY IN MY OPINION. RIGHT? GREAT SO, UM, BACK TO THE QUESTION IF I'M A LIAISON I KNOW THAT LAST NIGHT WAS CANCELED. SO IS THERE DO THEY DO THE LIAISON? COME TO YOU THE NEXT DAY AND SAY HEY, P AND Z WAS CANCELED LAST NIGHT. YOU MAY WANT TO INFORM ME, YOU KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING BECAUSE I JUST I JUST REALIZED THAT WHEN YOU JUST SAID IT, I DID NEVER SAY ANYTHING TO SPECIFICALLY TO ME TO SAY THAT A FORWARD MEETING WAS CANCELED. IS THAT REALISTIC TO ASK? UM SURE. I MEAN, ANYTHING IS REALISTIC. I THINK TO EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT. I WITH OUR NEW SYSTEM. KEEP IN MIND. WE'RE TRYING TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM PAPER. GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM SO THE INTER GOV SYSTEM WILL DO A LOT OF WHAT YOU'VE SAID ELECTRONICALLY AND GIVE REAL LIFETIME UPDATES, INCLUDING THEY'LL GET THE INSTANT EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS AND ALL THAT INSTANTLY, SO THAT SHOULD HELP WITH SOME OF THIS BECAUSE THEY'LL GET ALL THE STUFF AND THE REMINDERS AND ALL THAT STUFF. BUT I DON'T KNOW. AND I JUST MADE A NOTE I. I FOLLOW THE PROJECT MANAGER TOMORROW IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S AN ATTENDANCE THING AS PART OF THAT, IF THERE IS THAT'S A SIMPLE SOLUTION, BECAUSE THEN THAT JUST BECOMES AUTOMATIC EMAIL SET UP AND THEN WE CAN THAT, BUT I HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT. I KNOW WHEN I WAS ON NEIGHBORHOOD. HERE WAS A ATTENDANCE. UH, POLICY EXPECTED.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU MISS, I THINK IT WAS THREE OR FOUR. IT'S USUALLY THREE CONSECUTIVELY STAND. YOU ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO PARTICIPATE. UM BECAUSE THE INTERNET, I THINK IT DISTINGUISHES BETWEEN AN EXCUSED ABSENCE OF UNEXCUSED. YES, IT IS. BECAUSE THE UNEXCUSED APP IS THE ONE THAT WILL KILL YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET TO CALL THEM AND YOU'VE GOT THOSE PEOPLE COMING DOWN FROM WHEREVER AND EVERYBODY SITTING THERE AND ANTICIPATION. IT'S JUST IT'S BAD BUSINESS FOR THE CITY NOT TO TRY TO CATCH IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND IT'S NOT TOO MUCH TO EXPECT FROM THE LIAISON. THAT THEY DO THAT. AND IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE KEEPING THE SAME RECORDS ELECTRONICALLY. THEN YOU SHOULD BE GETTING A COPY OF THAT. SO WHERE YOU YOU COULD SEE, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. THE NEXT MORNING. YOU'VE GOT A COPY OF EVERYTHING THAT WENT ON.

FRIDAY BEFORE THEY CANCEL THE MEETING FOR MONDAY. YOU SEE THAT HAS BEEN CANCELED. BECAUSE OF LIAISONS. AND I KNOW HOW MANY IN HERE HAVE BEEN LIAISONS. YOU GOT YOUR JOB TO DO. AND THEN YOU GOT THIS. SO YOUR HEART'S NOT ALWAYS IN IT, BECAUSE YOU IT'S TIRING. AND LIKE I SAID, I HAVE I MEAN, MY WHOLE CAREER. I HAD MY BUILDING FISH. AS SOON AS I CAME ON BOARD HE GOT HERE HANDED ME

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UM SO THEY DON'T REALIZE WHAT THIS DOES TO ME IN MY BUSINESS. AND THAT FOR ME WAS. THE, UH THE NEW SYSTEM HAS A GO LIVE DATE OF AUGUST. THE PERMITTING SYSTEM. AND OUR NEW PRODUCT. PROJECT MANAGER IS ON TOP OF THE GOVERNMENT. THE AUGUST AND THAT'LL HELP WITH SOME OF THESE STUFF THESE THINGS, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA HELP WITH ALL OF IT RIGHT. THERE STILL HAS TO BE A WILLINGNESS AND DESIRE OF THE PERSON THAT'S ON THE BOARD OF COMMISSION ACTUALLY. OK? BUT IT WILL HELP WITH THE COMMUNICATION BECAUSE THAT'LL BE AUTOMATIC STUFF. HM? RIGHT? OF OUR BUSINESS FOR TONIGHT, A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FIRE STATION FOR ANOTHER COMPANY. OH YEAH, I. I JUST I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE OK, BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT GOING ON A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS HAPPENING AND THEY'RE IN THE NEW STATION, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T GET FORGOTTEN OVER. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. OK, IS THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HEADING LIKE? SOMETHING NEW. WELL, OK, WE'VE GOT SOME KIND OF VAGUE. YEAH IDEAS. I MEAN, RIGHT ? AND OF COURSE, WE WENT AND VISITED THE STATION AND GRAND PRAIRIE. I THINK HE HAS SOME GREAT IDEAS THERE, SO I JUST YEAH. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T GET PUSHED TOO FAR BACK ON THE BACK BURNER. DEPARTMENT HE TOLD ME THAT HE ACTUALLY HAS SOME DEVELOPERS INTERESTED IN THERE'S ACTUALLY IT'S THAT IT'S ACTIVE. THEIR TERMS OF WHAT IT'S GONNA BE REPURPOSED AS WHAT I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE GOT. YEAH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DEVELOPERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN IT. AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THERE'LL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES, BUT BUT I WOULD ALSO DAVID I OUT WITH THE ARTS COMMISSION TODAY. THEY'RE VERY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT GENERAL AREA BEING ARTS AND CULTURAL TYPE OF AN AREA. KIND OF AWAY FROM SOME RESIDENTIAL TO DO SOME DIFFERENT THINGS AND UNIQUE THINGS. SO I KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT LATER THIS MONTH, THE JOINT MEETING WITH THEM YES, AND I KNOW THAT THEY PLANT TEND TO SHARE THAT WITH YOUR VET. UM THAT WOULD I THINK ALSO TIE IN THE OLD STATION. AND, OF COURSE, JY NOTED THAT MY INTENTION OF TAKING COUNSEL TO THE FIRE STATION IN GRAND PRAIRIE WAS TO DEMONSTRATE THIS IS WHAT CAN BE DONE. THIS IS A POSSIBILITY.

DON'T DEMOLISH THIS BUILDING. AND IT IT HAS GREAT POTENTIAL IN TERMS OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN. THAT WAS MY PURPOSE. THAT ONE. MHM. OR IF YOU WRAP IT UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OK? SO THE CONCLUSION WHERE BUSINESS FOR TONIGHT WE ARE ADJOURNING OUR MEETING. THE

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