4.D. Consider a Resolution awarding a bid and authorizing a Cooperative Purchasing Agreement with Enterprise Fleet Management through Sourcewell Contract 030122-EFM for a multi-year vehicle lease and maintenance agreement in the estimated total expenditure amount of

[4.D. Consider a Resolution awarding a bid and authorizing a Cooperative Purchasing Agreement with Enterprise Fleet Management through Sourcewell Contract 030122-EFM for a multi-year vehicle lease and maintenance agreement in the estimated total expenditure amount of ]

HAS BEEN MOVED FROM CONSENT TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. AND THIS IS ITEM FOUR D AS IN DAVID.

CONSIDER RESOLUTION AWARDING A BID AND AUTHORIZING COOPERATIVE PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT. RESOURCEFUL CONTRACT 030122 EF M . FROM UP TO YOUR VEHICLE LEASE AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, THE ESTIMATED TOTAL EXPENDITURE OF $7,510,504. THANK YOU. MAYOR COUNCIL. SO. OUR LAST CONVERSATION DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, WE REVIEWED A REPLACEMENT PLAN THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THE CITY TO REPLACE ASSETS EVERY FIVE YEARS INSTEAD OF EVERY 10 TO 15 YEARS, DEPENDING ON THE DEPARTMENT. UM THIS PLAN IS SUSTAINABLE. IT'S GOING TO HELP US LOWER OUR OPERATING COST . SO TODAY BASED ON OUR OVERALL AVERAGE AGE OF THE FLEET, WE HAVE HIGHER MAINTENANCE AND FUEL COSTS AND BY RESELLING VEHICLES SOONER, WE'RE ABLE TO RECOUP THE

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EQUITY OF THE FLEET. THAT BEING THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENT IN THE TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP.

REGAINING THAT EQUITY BACK INTO THE CAPITAL SPEND AND AGAIN IT'S GOING TO ALLOW FOR THE CITY TO REPLACE ASSETS MORE FREQUENTLY, AND IT'S GOING TO COST THE CITY ABOUT THE SAME AS WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY. THE BENEFITS THERE AGAIN, NEWER, FRESHER FLEET THAT ARE GOING TO BE MORE FUEL EFFICIENT, SAFER VEHICLES AND GIVE US A PROACTIVE ASSET REPLACEMENT PLAN THAT WILL ALLOW US TO WORK WITH THE MANUFACTURERS GET THE INVENTORY THAT WE NEED FROM A REPLACEMENT STANDPOINT AND REALLY CONTROL ALL THOSE EXPENSES BECAUSE EVERYTHING WOULD BE MORE PROACTIVE VERSUS REACTIVE. I'D LIKE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE TODAY. I KNOW. WE WENT OVER A LOT IN OUR LAST, UM OUR LAST SESSION, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS POTENTIALLY RELATED TO THE BUDGET. COUNCIL MEMBER GOODEN, YOU WERE THE INDIVIDUAL TO ASK THIS TO BE MOVED FROM CONSENT TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATIONS ALL OPEN WITH YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO SPEAK WITH US AND TO DO THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU, JENNIFER FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE INVESTED IN IT. I'LL BE HONEST. UM MY THE CURRENT STATUS OF OUR FINANCIAL FINANCES RIGHT NOW, UM, THIS AMOUNT, THOUGH. I KNOW IT'S NOT ALL AT ONE TIME.

THE $7 MILLION 1,010,000 DOLLARS. UNDERSTAND IT WOULD BE PAID OUT OVER TIME. BUT NOT BEING FULLY CONFIDENT. AND OUR FINANCES FOR ME. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

THAT'S WHERE I'M HAVING THE CONCERN. UM I KNOW WE'RE WORKING HARD ON TRYING TO DETERMINE WHERE WE ARE FINANCIALLY AND I UNDERSTAND THE TIMING OF IT. I DO APPRECIATE THAT. BUT TO BE ABLE TO FULLY STAND BEHIND IT RIGHT NOW. WITHOUT BEING PRESENTED AND PROPOSED A NEW BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. I JUST THAT'S WHERE I'M FINDING THE CONCERN. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CHERRY TERRY BROWN. SORRY. HEY, CM BROWN, UM DO YOU FEEL? THAT THERE IS ANY CONCERN IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS TIME. WHERE WE ARE IN OUR BUDGET. NO, MA'AM, I DON'T THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT NUMBER FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S AN AMOUNT THAT'S GOING TO BE CLOSE TO WHAT WE NEED TO SPEND ANYWAY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VEHICLES, 126 VEHICLES, THOSE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE, ANYWAY. AND PRIOR TO PROPOSING THIS TO COUNSEL. WE HAVE A FLEET ROTATION SCHEDULE THAT WE'VE BEEN USING HISTORICALLY TO REPLACE OUR VEHICLES. AND SO BASICALLY WHAT OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT DOES AS WE APPROPRIATE FUNDS. WE TAKE MONEY FROM THE CHARGE THEM TO THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND WE USE THOSE FUNDS TO PURCHASE OUR VEHICLES. AND SO THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND HOW WE GET THOSE VEHICLES. AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WAITING MUCH FOR VEHICLES AND BECAUSE OF THEIR, UM, THEIR . THEY'RE WELL KNOWN IN THE INDUSTRY AND BECAUSE OF THEIR ABILITY TO GET VEHICLES. WE NEED THOSE VEHICLES AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN GET THEM RIGHT NOW WE HAVE VEHICLES THAT ARE OLD. UM WE HAVE SOME MECHANICAL TROUBLES WITH THOSE VEHICLES. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO EXPEDITE GETTING VEHICLES FOR OUR STAFF.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT THIS TO THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. SO DID THIS.

UM UM. CITY MANAGER BROWN MR LIU, WHICH IS TO SPEAK WOULD YOU RECOGNIZE HIM? PLEASE YES. THIS IS A LOW. ONE THING THAT MOVED THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU. THANK YOU, MR LOWE. ONE THING THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO EASE YOUR MIND. A LOT OF THE MONEY FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THESE VEHICLES HAVE ALREADY BEEN SET ASIDE. IN THE FLEET FLEET ROTATION FUND. SO MUCH OF THE MONEY IS ALREADY THERE. JUST FROM. BUDGETS OVER THE YEARS AND REPLENISHING ONCE THE VEHICLE IS PURCHASED, TAKING THAT MONEY AMOUNT EACH BUDGET YEAR TO REPLENISH THE FUND FOR BICYCLE.

YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO PHASE IT OUT. DO IT IN PHASES. YOU'RE SAYING THE FIRST PHASE IS ALREADY SET TO THE SIDE OR THE ENTIRE WHICH IS NOW 7 MILLION, BUT WITH US BEING ALSO IN INFLATION THAT COULD ALSO GROW. UM I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO PAY THE MONEY OUT. TWO. RECEIVE THE NEW VEHICLES THAT WE NEED TO GET THAT. I'M STILL JUST STRUGGLING

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WITH WHERE WE ARE FINANCIALLY AND BEING ABLE TO FULLY SUPPORTED AND STAND BEHIND IT. I GET HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. I DO. THANK YOU. MAN MAKE A COMMENT AS IT RELATES TO THE 7 MILLION. YES NUMBER DOES NOT INCLUDE THE EQUITY THAT YOU HAVE IN THE FLEET THAT'S COMING BACK TO YOU.

THAT NUMBER IS $2 MILLION HIGHER THAN WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO COST THE CITY. THAT NUMBER ALSO INCLUDES YOUR OPERATING COSTS YOUR MAINTENANCE SPEND AS WELL SO THAT NUMBER IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING IN TERMS OF CAPITAL BUDGET. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CAPITAL BUDGET, ON AVERAGE, WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IS ESSENTIALLY THIS SAME IS WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING TODAY, PAYING CASH. JUST A REMINDER THE MARKET VALUE FINANCE ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS US TO STRETCH THAT DOLLAR FURTHER. RIGHT SO WE'RE NOT PAYING CASH THE COLD COST OF THE VEHICLE UP FRONT. THEREFORE WE'RE ABLE TO REPLACE MORE VEHICLES WITHIN THAT SAME CAPITAL. SPEND SO AGAIN. THAT NUMBER DOES NOT INCLUDE THE $2 MILLION THAT YOU WILL HAVE OVER THAT SAME FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

THAT'S ESSENTIALLY A CREDIT BACK TOWARDS THE CAPITAL BUDGET RIGHT AND IT ALSO INCLUDES MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE BUCKET. YOU'RE ALREADY SPENDING THAT MONEY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU'RE WORKING WITH ENTERPRISE OR NOT. YOU'RE SPENDING FUEL AND MAINTENANCE SOMEWHERE. WE KNOW THOSE EXPENSES ARE GOING TO GO DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THE FLEET MORE FREQUENTLY, BUT SO THAT NUMBER REALLY ISN'T REFLECTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING IN TERMS OF BUDGET. FOR THE YEAR, ONE REPLACEMENTS OR EVEN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS. SO IF WE ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT NOW AND LET'S JUST SAY, FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT DOESN'T WORK OUT WITHIN A YEAR. UM CAN WE EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC? HOW DOES WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR US? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO UM, YOU HAVE QUITE A FEW OPTIONS ACTUALLY. SO IF YOU HATED ENTERPRISE, AND YOU WANTED TO FIRE US OR SOMETHING CHANGED AND YOU WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE WAY THAT YOU WERE DOING IT BEFORE YOU GUYS JUST CONTINUE TO PAY DOWN THOSE VEHICLE PAYMENTS, JUST LIKE YOU WOULD ON YOUR OWN PERSONAL FINANCE AND CONTINUE TO RUN THEM AS LONG AS YOU NEED. SO THE EQUITY IS ALWAYS YOURS IF YOU SELL IT AT THE END OF 10 YEARS, 15 YEARS, 20 YEARS WILL GIVE YOU THE EQUITY RIGHT BACK SO AGAIN. YOU HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN THAT THERE'S NO YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO, YOU KNOW, BUY OUT THE ENTIRE FLEET AND IMPACT YOUR BUDGET ALL IN ONE YEAR THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH YOU AND FIGURING OUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT EXIT PLAN IF YOU WILL, BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY JUST LIKE YOU WOULD IN A NORMAL FINDING. THANK YOU. I SEE THAT MR CONTRERAS HAS A COMMON, MR CONTRERAS. AND THEN MR KOONTZ, MICHIGAN. YES. BUT I SAW THIS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE. JENNIFER DID A GOOD JOB AT THE LAST MEETING, EXPLAINING THIS TO US TO THE EXTENT THAT HE COULD. IN THE SHORT TIME SHE HAD BUT GIVEN. LACK OF AWARENESS OF WHERE WE STAND FINANCIALLY RIGHT NOW. IT WILL BE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW. I PREFER AND I APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE'RE GETTING TONIGHT. BUT TO GO FROM GETTING A PRESENTATION. IN THE LAST MEETING, TOO. AND HAS BROUGHT FORWARD ME UNEXPECTEDLY. NO JOB SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I'M NOT. I'M NOT THINKING THAT IT'S IS TO SAY NO. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT TO SAY YES. AND THE WAY WE CAN DO THAT, IF THEY HAVE A FURTHER EXPLANATION, SIMILAR ABOUT GETTING TONIGHT, BUT YOU KNOW? AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE CAN. ASK QUESTIONS BACK AND FORTH, GET ANSWERS AND MAKE IT MORE EDUCATED DECISIONS. THANK YOU. MR COONS. OKAY? THE. WHAT I'M TRYING TO RECALL. WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS THE DETAILED PRESENTATION THAT MS OD GAVE US DURING OUR LESS BRILLIANT THAT WAS IT'S ALL THERE. IT'S COMING UP. UM IF THERE COULD GO TOWARD THE END OF THAT PRESENTATION WHERE IT WAS NETTED OUT, I THINK OVER SEVEN YEAR PERIOD SOME OF THOSE DEFINITIONS OF EXPENDITURES AND THAT THAT'S NOT THERE. THEY'RE NOT THERE, NATION, OKAY, NEVER MIND THAT. SO I'M TRYING TO RECALL THOSE THE NUMBERS THAT WE SAW IN TERMS OF NETTING THIS OUT OVER SEVEN YEAR PERIOD. THEIR RECOMPENSE OF WOULD RECEIVE THE DOLLARS AMOUNT THAT WE RECEIVED BY SPENDING LESS ON VEHICLES AND MAKING MORE EQUITY ON THE VEHICLES WHEN WE SELL THEM AFTER POSSIBLY TWO YEARS. IN TERMS OF THE MARKET IN TERMS OF WHAT DRIVES THAT AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME. I UNDERSTOOD IT PRETTY WELL. I THINK I STILL DO UNDERSTAND IT PRETTY WELL AND UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. THE CONCERNS MENTIONED HERE, IT BY MY COLLEAGUES. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE HAVE ALSO IS A TIMELINE. AND THAT TIMELINE

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COULD BE RUNNING OUT ON US IN TERMS OF GETTING ANY VEHICLES OF ANY SORT. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. IN TERMS OF HOW WE DO THIS. I WOULD GO WITH OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER'S COMMENTS. HE IS FULLY CONFIDENT. IN OUR ABILITY TO FUND THIS AND TO CARRY IT FORWARD, AND IN THAT RESPECT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. I SECOND. AND MOTION TO APPROACH. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER GOODEN AND THE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TERRY BROWN. COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE. WE HAVE, MR CONTRERAS, YOUR VOTE, PLEASE UPPER THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN. OKAY SO WE HAVE A VOTE OF FIVE TO THE MOTION IS CARRIED.

THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WE ARE GETTING ALMOST BACK ON TRACK

[5.A. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider approval of an Ordinance amending the Code of Crdinance by adding new Chapter 12D “Youth Program Standards of Care” providing for organization; providing for definitions; providing for inspections, monitoring, enforcement; providing for enrollment; providing for report of abuse; providing site director qualifications; providing site director responsibilities; providing counselor qualifications; providing counselor responsibilities; providing for training, orientation; providing staff-participant ratio; providing for discipline; providing for programming; providing for communications; providing for transportation; providing for facility standards; providing a repealing clause; providing a severability clause; providing a savings clause; and providing an effective date]

IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE A. THAT'S A CONDUCTOR. PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCE BY ADDING NEW CHAPTER 12 D YOUTH PROGRAM, STANDARDS OF CARE PROVIDED FOR ORGANIZATION PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS PROVIDING FOR INSPECTIONS.

MONITORING ENFORCEMENT, PROVIDING FOR ENROLLMENT PROVIDING FOR REPORT OF ABUSE, PROVIDING SITE DIRECTOR QUALIFICATIONS, PROVIDING SITE DIRECTOR RESPONSIBILITIES, PROVIDING COUNSELOR QUALIFICATIONS, WRITING COUNCIL RESPONSIBILITIES, PROVIDING IT WAS MY PLACE FOR TRAINING ORIENTATION, PROVIDING STAFF PARTICIPANT RATIO PROVIDING FOR DISCIPLINE PROVIDING FOR PROGRAMMING PROVIDED FOR COMMUNICATIONS PROVIDED FOR TRANSPORTATION, PROVIDING CARE FACILITY STANDARDS, PROVIDING REPEATING CLASS, PROVIDING SEVERABILITY CLAUSE WRITING SAVING CLASS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION FIRST BY DIRECTOR OF PARKS, MR STEVENSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL BART STEVENSON, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GROUND ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE. AS YOU RECALL LAST YEAR, THE COUNT THE STAFF HAS MADE AWARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR EXEMPTION FROM MY SINGER FROM THE STATE. FOR OUR DAY CAMP PROGRAM. REQUIRED APPROVAL OF STANDARDS OF CARE ORDINANCE. ON OCTOBER 2ND 2022. THE COUNCIL APPROVED THAT ORDINANCE. THE ORDINANCE IS REQUIRED TO BE. APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL ANNUALLY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO RE APPROVED THE ORDINANCE FROM 2022. AND WITH THAT INCLUDE. THE STANDARD OF CARE THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT HIRING PRACTICES MONITORING OF THE PROGRAM STAFF TRAINING. STAFF RATIOS DISCIPLINE. HEALTH AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS AND STAFF RESPONSIBILITIES. WE CANNOT ADVERTISE THE PROGRAM. AS A DAYCARE, WHICH WE DO NOT WE AFFIRM THAT THE PROGRAM IS NOT LICENSED BY THE STATE. AND THEN WE PROVIDE A COPY OF THE STANDARDS OF CARE TO ALL THE PARENTS AND BEGINNING OF THE SEASON. SO WITH ME TONIGHT, I HAVE MR CRAIG BRASS FIELD OR GENERAL MANAGER OF THE FIELD HOUSE, ALONG WITH HIS TEAM FOR THE BOSS, SUMMER CAMP COACH PEARSON AND COACH WHO'S TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE PROGRAM. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. I'M CRAIG BRASS FIELD GENERAL MANAGER. AND WE WILL FIELDHOUSE. JUST A FEW BRIEF WORDS ABOUT THE 2023 COUNT.

WE'RE IN WEEK SIX. THIS UH, THIS WEEK. EXCUSE ME. WEEK SEVEN. JUST FINISHED UP WITH SIX. WE HAVE 304 REGISTRATIONS TO DATE. WE'VE GONE 3007 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE OVER THE SIX WEEK PERIOD. THAT'S AN AVERAGE OF 518 KIDS A WEEK. WE HAVE TO FANTASTIC SITE LEADERS. WE HAVE SIX DEDICATED STAFF MEMBERS. TO THE SUMMER CAMP AND 34 AMERICORPS STAFF MEMBERS. THOSE THAT YOU DON'T KNOW. AMERICORPS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES LABOR AND SITUATIONS LIKE OURS FOR COLLEGE QUALIFIED COLLEGE KIDS FOR COLLEGE GRADE. AND WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE THE RELATIONSHIPS TO GARNER 34 KIDS IN THAT PROGRAM. ALL STAFF MEMBERS LISTED HAVE SUCCESSFULLY PASSED BACKGROUND CHECKS. DRUG TESTING AND WENT THROUGH ALL TRAINING FOR THE CAMPS, UH AT HAND. OKAY CAMPERS AND STAFF RATIOS OR IN COMPLIANCE. WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING IN

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THE LIST THAT, UH, IS ASK OF US. WE ARE WORKING, UH, WITH THE CITY'S FIRE DEPARTMENT TO GET OUR FINAL. UM PARDON? FIRE DRILLS AND INSPECTION. SO EVERYTHING IS KIND OF LYING DOWN, IF NOT UH, 100, BUT IT'S 99.9. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BY THE COACHES.

OKAY THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND AT THIS TIME I WILL STATE THE RULES THAT WE ENGAGE IN IN OUR CITY COUNCIL FOR ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND THIS WILL APPLY. ONLY TO THIS ONE, BECAUSE I THINK I'M GOING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES WITH COUNCIL'S AGREEMENT WHEN WE GET INTO THE NEXT ITEMS SO IT'S WHAT WE DO. IS WE A LOT 10 MINUTES IN THE AGGREGATE FOR INDIVIDUALS TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, AND THEN WE ALLOWED 10 MINUTES IN THE AGGREGATE FOR INDIVIDUALS TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. THE TIME ALLOTTED TO YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL IS NOT TIMED, BUT WE DO TIME THE TOTAL TIME SO IT'S SIX OR SEVEN PEOPLE WANT TO COME UP AND SAY SOMETHING. THOSE SIX OR SEVEN PEOPLE ONLY GET 10 MINUTES. THAT'S THE AGGREGATE. YOU DON'T GET TWO MINUTES. YOU DON'T GET FOUR OR FIVE. HOWEVER, YOU WANT TO DO THAT IS UP TO YOU. SO I WILL THIS TIME. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE TIME STAMP ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING OPENING IS 8 32. SO ALL INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE ANY LITTLE TRUMP LIKE TO COME FORWARD, SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROGRAM, PLEASE COME FORWARD. MARLA'S GORDON. 17 51 CRESCENT LINE, DUNCAN. I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK. BUT SINCE NOBODY ELSE IS I WILL THIS IS I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PROGRAM. LAST SUMMER. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXCUSE ME. I NEED TO INTERRUPT TO SAY THAT YOU'RE NOW SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF VERSUS IVAN OPPOSITION BECAUSE I CALLED FOR AN OPPOSITION. YOU'RE SPEAKING IN FAVOR. DID YOU CLOSE THE OPPOSITION? NO I DID NOT. I JUST NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU STAND. YOU ARE SPEAKING IN FAVOR. THANK YOU. NO. YEAH.

PLEASE CONTINUE. TO FOLLOW THE RULES. PEOPLE. PLEASE CONTINUE, MRS GORDON. CLOCK IS STARTED.

I'M IN FAVOR. OF THIS PROGRAM LAST SUMMER, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO OBSERVE THE CAMP RUNNING AND THE STUDENTS, THE CHILDREN AND THE WONDERFUL STAFF. AND I WAS SO IMPRESSED AT THE WAY THEY CONTROL THE KIDS THE WAY THAT THE KIDS HAVE BOUNDARIES AND RULES AND THERE FOLLOWED UM. IT'S AN AMAZING PROGRAM. AND IT'S SUCH A HELP TO PARENTS WHO WORK ALL SUMMER.

DURING THE DAY AND NEED HELP WITH THEIR CHILDREN. THE KIDS WILL LEARN MANY WONDERFUL THINGS, ONE OF THEM BEING UM, FRIENDSHIP AND. AND OBEDIENCE TO RULES. I REALLY APPLAUD THE COACHES. YOU'RE WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. SEEING NONE. CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING TIMESTAMP IS 8 34. WE NOW OPEN THIS TO DISCUSSION BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ANY DISCUSSION, PLEASE.

MR MCBURNETT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. IT'S A QUICK QUESTION FROM MR STEVENSON. WE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. YES, SIR. MISS PART OF THE STATE'S REQUIREMENT. THE DEPARTMENT OF HELPING HUMAN SERVICES. THROUGH OVERSEAS DAYCARES. CITIES, OR EXAMPLE FROM DAYCARE LICENSING, BUT PART OF THAT EXEMPTION REQUIRES AN ANNUAL ADOPTION OF THE STANDARDS OF CARE, ESPECIALLY OUTLINES THE MINIMUM ALLOWABLE. RULES AND PROCEDURES OF HOW THEY OPERATE OUR PROGRAMS WITH THE KIDS, SO THAT'S WHAT THIS DOCUMENT DOES. IT OUTLINED THOSE MINIMUMS CHANGED BY WHICH WE OPERATE OUR DAY CAMP. AND WHO WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE MONITORING SPECIFICALLY? SPECIFICALLY IT IS MR BRASS FIELD AS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE FIELD HOUSE. WE ALSO HAVE A SITE DIRECTOR, WHICH IS COACH USE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SEE NO OTHER COMMENTS. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO VALIDATE THE PRESENCE OF THE 34 VOLUNTEERS FROM AMERICA. YOU NEED TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME AND UNDERSTAND WHAT AMERICA IS THE DIRECTOR OF

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AMERICORPS. APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT BIDEN VISITED THIS CITY LAST YEAR AFTER THE EVENT IN WHICH OUR CHILDREN WERE INVOLVED. AND HE GAVE GREAT COMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY FOR HOW WE DID IT. SO THE PRESIDENT REPRESENTATIVE OF AMERICORPS CAME TO OUR CITY AND COMMENDED US FOR THE MANNER IN WHICH THE 34 AMERICORPS VOLUNTEERS OPERATED FOR WHICH MR BRASS FIELD AND THE COACHES OPERATED WITH ALL THESE CHILDREN. IT WAS A GREAT TIME, ACTUALLY, FOR TWO FOR THAT RECOGNITION TO COME FROM PRESIDENT BIDEN'S ADMINISTRATION, AND WE THANK AMERICORPS AND FOR ALL THAT YOU DO WITH THAT. SO WITH THAT CHEERLEADER DIDN'T IN A MOTION TO YES, MR BRADFIELD. MR SMITH IS COMING BACK HERE FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK IS HE RETURN VISIT TO SEE THE PROGRAM AGAIN? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. SOME MOVED SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE OF MR KOONTZ THE SECOND WITH MR MCBURNETT, PLEASE VOTE. MR CONTRERAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO. HERE'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO FOR THE COUNCIL TO ENTERTAIN. ITEMS. FIVE B FIVE C FIVE D IN FIVE E. ARE ALL CONNECTED. THEY ALL RELATE TO THE LEAD PROPERTY. THEY'RE ALL CONTAINED SPECIFIC ORDINANCES AND WHAT IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED IN THOSE PARTICULAR PORTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE? WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR EACH OF THOSE FOR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. THE NUMBER OF CARDS THAT I HAVE HERE, I WILL PRESUME. ARE IN SUPPORT OF ALL FOUR OF THOSE IN THE INTERESTS OF TIME. WE MAY CONSIDER. THAT ANY INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION COULD COME FORWARD, BUT WE WOULD TRY TO AGGREGATE ALL FOUR OF THESE ITEMS TOGETHER INTO ONE PUBLIC HEARING AND IN SO DOING I WOULD THEN CHANGE WHICH I HAVE THE PREROGATIVE TO DO. THE TIME ALLOTTED FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS INSTEAD OF 10 MINUTES FOR THE AGGREGATE. I COULD GO 20, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WISH THIS COME AND SPEAK. NOW LET'S GO BACK IN TIME AND SOME HISTORY. WE'VE HAD SOME PUBLIC HEARINGS IN WHICH I LOOKED OVER THE AUDIENCE, AND I KNEW THAT WHAT THE SUPPORT WAS GOING TO BE. IT WAS VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY HERE WAS GOING TO THIS IS NOT TODAY, BUT IN THE PAST THERE WAS VIRTUALLY 100% SUPPORT. FOR THOSE INTERVALS PRESENT. AND I ASKED IF THERE'S ANY EVEN INDIVIDUALS PRESENT WHO WERE IN OPPOSITION TO THAT ITEM WE HAD ON THE AGENDA AND THERE WAS NO ONE SO WHAT WE DID, THEN WAS WE TOOK ALL THE CARDS. THEY COME INTO OUR RECORD. THEY'RE PART OF OUR MINUTES AND THEY'VE COME FORWARD AND STANDING IS ALL INDIVIDUALS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK BECAUSE MAINLY YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE REITERATING SUPPORT OF EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEM. THAT WE WOULD COMBINE ALL THESE FOUR INTO ONE PUBLIC HEARING. NOW I WILL HAVE TO STATE AS WELL. THAT ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS REQUESTED THAT SOME OF THE ITEMS BE CHANGED AND SOME OF THE LANGUAGE SO PUTTING THOSE ITEMS INTO CONSIDERATION DOES CHANGE THE MANNER IN WHICH WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS. SO I WOULD BE AND I WOULD HAVE TO MEET SPECIFIC IF WE DO HAVE WRITTEN COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER KUNZ IN TERMS OF FOR ITEMS. FIVE C FIVE CHARLIE AND FIVE DAVID IN WHICH HE IS SUGGESTING THAT SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE BE MADE TO THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS THAT WE HAVE. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT CHANGES MY INTENT IN TERMS OF HOPING TO CONDENSE THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TO STILL ALLOW MR KOONTZ TO MAKE HIS PRESENTATION FOR WHAT HE WISHES TO DO IN TERMS OF LANGUAGE FOR FIVE D. AND I'M SORRY FOR FIVE C AND FIVE D. SO REALLY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. IS OPEN. SOME COMMENTS UP FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE AT THE DESK TO SEE IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH FOUR INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ALL FOUR OF THESE ITEMS IF YOU WANT TO SEGREGATE IF YOU WANT TO AGGREGATE OR HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THIS? BECAUSE WE KNOW AS I SEE, I'M LOOKING OVER THE AUDIENCE, AND I WAS LOOKING AT ALL OF THE CARDS THAT I HAVE HERE. I WOULD PREDICT. THAT MOST IF NOT EVERY ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT WISH TO SPEAK ARE IN FAVOR OF THESE FOUR ITEMS. I SEE WELL, NEGATIVE, AS I SAID. OKAY, SO BUT THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION'S WOULD STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO IN BY SPECIFYING WHICH IS WHICH ITEM. IT IS THEIR WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THAT WOULD NOT BE PRECLUDED. YOU STILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SO. SO UM, MOSTLY, THIS PERTAINS TO HOW WE WOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN TERMS OF SAVING TIME, AND

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POSSIBLY, THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE BASED ON ANY IN FRUIT WE WOULD SEE FROM COUNCIL ACTUALLY GOING TO TURN TO MR KOONTZ FOR HIS FEELINGS ON THIS BECAUSE OF WHAT HE HAS SUBMITTED TO US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ITEMS FIVE C AND FIVE D. MR COATES, I WOULD I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS AND HOW WE MAY PROCEED. MAYBE IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, MAYBE NOT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. BUT HOW WOULD YOU PERCEIVE? HOW DID YOU PREFER THAT WE OPERATE THIS, SIR, I'M TURNING TO YOU FOR YOUR FOR YOUR INPUT AND COMMENTS. THAT WE KEEP THE ITEMS SEPARATE.

UH HUH. AND THAT WE ACTUALLY INCREASE THE TIME ALLOTTED THAT WE WAIVE THE 10 MINUTE RULE AND INCREASE THAT 15 MINUTES FOR EACH ITEM. SO MR KOONTZ HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION OR SUGGESTION, UH, TO KEEP THE ITEMS AS AN INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AND RATHER THAN THE 10 MINUTES ALLOTTED FOR EACH ITEM IN OPPOSITION, OR IN IN FAVOR TO INCREASE THAT TO 15 MINUTES.

PERSONALLY I CAN AGREE WITH THAT . I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT. JUST LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS AMONG COUNCIL IF THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE, THAT'S AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. OKAY? SO THAT SETTLES THAT. SO LOOKING AT HOW WE WOULD THEN OPERATE AND NOTING AS WELL AS I ALREADY STATED THAT MR KOONTZ HAS MADE SOME INPUTS ON FIVE ITEMS. FIVE C AND FIVE D. HE WILL MAKE THOSE INPUTS SUBSEQUENT TO THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS BEING MADE AND THAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE AS I UNDERSTAND

[5.B. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider an Ordinance amending the Comprehensive Plan dated September 19, 2017, adopted by Ordinance No. 2317, is hereby amended by amending, chapter 2: future land use, page 68, by revising references to opportunity Area 8, to reflect the inclusion of a nature conservation area; by amending Comprehensive Plan Map, attached hereto and incorporated herein as Exhibit "A"; by amending, Chapter 4, Quality of Life, by amending page 116.]

IT, MR COONS. CORRECT. THANK YOU . ALRIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE B. I WANT BEFORE I DO THAT. LET ME MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT THAT WHERE WE ARE TODAY. IS THE CULMINATION OF SEVERAL MONTHS OF WORK. AND IN DECEMBER OF 2022. THIS A COUNCIL. AND I MADE A DECLARATION ON THE RECORD THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD DELIVER AN ORDINANCE TO THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE. BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD TAKE SOME TIME BECAUSE WE WANTED TO DO IT THE CORRECT WAY. STAFF AND INDIVIDUALS LOOKED AT OTHER WAYS. OTHER CITIES HAD MADE NATURE PRESERVES, AND WE WERE GIVEN SOME ADVICE. LEGAL ADVICE TO SAY THAT THERE'S SOME HOLES IN THE WAY OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THINGS. AND WHAT THAT DID WAS THAT PART MADE IT OPEN TO MAYBE REPEAL THAT SOME PEOPLE SORT OR SOME GLITCH IN IN THE LEGALITY OF SOME OF THOSE WAYS THAT OTHER CITIES HAD MADE PRESERVES, AND THAT'S WHY WE EMBARKED ON A VERY DETAILED PLAN OF ACTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY RECOMMENDED TO US TO DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY. AND TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. WE KNEW IT WAS A GOOD TAPE MONTHS. BECAUSE WE HAD TO LOOK AT THE COUNT PLAN. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR ZONING. WE HAD TO LOOK AT ORDINANCES AND THEN ALL THIS HAD TO BE DRAFTED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY WHO HAS SPENT ON UNTOLD HOURS COMING UP WITH THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TODAY. SO WITH THAT I WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE STEPS OF YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED ON A MONTHLY BASIS BY OUR BY OUR STAFF IN TERMS OF THE PROGRESS OF COMING FORWARD WITH THESE PARTICULAR DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TODAY AND GIVING THE STATUS AND WE'RE BASICALLY RIGHT ON TIME. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE, BUT WE CAN LEAVE HERE.

IF THESE ARE ALL APPROVED TONIGHT, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS THE RIGHT WAY. SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA OPEN ITEM FIVE B. DR PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DATA SEPTEMBER 19TH 2017 ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER, 2317 IS HEREBY AMENDED BY AMENDING CHAPTER TWO FUTURE LAND USE. PAGE 68 BY REVISING REFERENCES TO OPPORTUNITY AREA EIGHT TO REFLECT THE INCLUSION OF A NATURE CONSERVATION AREA BY AMENDING APPREHENSIVE PLANNED MAP ATTACHED HERE TO AND INCORPORATED HERE IN AS EXHIBIT A BY AMENDING CHAPTER FOUR QUALITY OF LIFE BY AMENDING PAGE 116 AND FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES , THE PRESENTATION IS MADE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I OPENED IT THEN TO DISCUSSION BY CITY COUNCIL. SO TURNING IT OVER TO OUR SENIOR PLANNER, MR WARREN.

THE ITEM FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR. THANK YOU. MAYOR COUNCIL. REQUEST IS TO REMOVE OPPORTUNITY AREA A FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. THE FUTURE LAND USE BEST IDENTIFIES THE BEST USE FOR PARCEL OF LAND, UH, IN FUTURE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS NOT CHANGE THE PARCELS. CURRENT ZONING THOUGH ANY REZONING MUST BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. OPPORTUNITY AREA EIGHT. THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS FROM THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN SHOWING THE LAB PROPERTY. AH IT'S CIRCLED, AS IS THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY. AREA EIGHT. A LOT OF PROPERTY. HISTORY OF THE LAB PROPERTY. BOB LADD, THE PREVIOUS OWNER, GRANTED THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY ON APRIL 2ND 1998 WITH RESTRICTIONS SUCH AS THE ADVANCEMENT OF CULTURAL, ARTISTIC OR EDUCATIONAL OBJECTIVES. THE CITY CURRENTLY MAINTAINS THE PROPERTY AS AN OPEN SPACE. CONFERENCE OF PLAN IDENTIFIED THE PROPERTY AS AN OPPORTUNITY AREA IN 2017. THE CITY ADVERTISERS ARE F P FOR DEVELOPMENT IN MAY OF 2019 ON

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NOVEMBER, 15TH 2022 COUNCIL INSTRUCTED CITY, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY SECRETARY TO NOMINATE THE LAB PROPERTY AS A NATURE AREA. STAFF, THEN MET WITH THE DOCTOR, FELLOW COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION KEEP DUNCANVILLE BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY COMMISSION AND PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD AND RECEIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO DESIGNATE THE LAB PROPERTY AS IN NATURE PRESERVE. STAFF ALSO HELD TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON MARCH 9TH MARCH 23RD IN WHICH THE PUBLIC VOICE THAT DESIRE TO SEE THE LAB PROPERTY DESIGNATED AS A NATURE PRESERVE. IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH NATURE PRESERVE. ON THE PROPERTY OF THE FOLLOWING FOUR PROCEDURES MUST TAKE PLACE. FIRST THE OPPORTUNITY AREA EIGHT MUST BE REMOVED THEM. FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. SECOND NATURE PRESERVE MUST BE DEFINED AND ADDED TO THE NEED TO THE CONFERENCE OF ZONING ORDINANCE AS A LAND USE. THIRD NATURE PRESERVE MUST BE DEFINED AND ADDED TO THE CONFERENCE OF ZONING ORDINANCE AS A ZONING DISTRICT, THEN FINALLY, ZONING CHANGE FROM THE EXISTING ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. TO THE NEWLY ESTABLISHED ZONING DISTRICT NATURE PRESERVE DISTRICT MUST TAKE PLACE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UH VOTED FOR 20 RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM CITY COUNCIL AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM FIVE B AND THE TIME STAMP AND OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING IS 8 47. ALL INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS. PLEASE COME FORWARD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND IN THE AGGREGATE, THERE'S 15 MINUTES ACCORDED FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING. ERICA BROWNING 442 EAST CHERRY STREET . I AM IN FAVOR OF REMOVING THIS FROM OPPORTUNITY. AREA EIGHT. THANK YOU. EMILY BRIDGES 418 OLEANDER. I AM ALSO IN FAVOR OF REMOVING OPPORTUNITY. EIGHT AS ARE THESE RESIDENTS FROM SANTA FE VILLAGE WHO ARE IN FAVOR IN FULL SUPPORT OF ZONING, THE LAB PROPERTY, A GREEN SPACE PRESERVATION DISTRICT. AND ARE OPPOSED. TO ANY ZONING DESIGNATION OR LAND USES. THAT MIGHT FOLLOW. I MEAN, MIGHT ALLOW FOR HIGH IMPACT, CONSTRUCTION OR DEVELOPMENT OF ANY PORTION OF THE PROPERTIES, 42 ACRES AND I'D LIKE TO HANDLE IT. THOMAS LACKEY, 18 18 SEABROOK. UH JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. THE NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY OF COMMISSION. I THINK IT'S CALLED UH, NEVER ESTABLISHED A QUORUM TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER. OKAY? ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. PLEASE COME FORWARD. HOW MANY GAMES LOUISE LARSON? I LIVE AT 4 27 PARKVIEW DRIVE. I ALSO. I AGREE. WE NEED THIS. THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE EARLIER.

AND SAID, HOW IMPORTANT YOUR DECISION IS BECAUSE THERE'S VERY LITTLE PROPERTY. THAT STILL CAN BE DEVELOPED. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE EXACT REASON YOU NEED TO CONSIDER SAVING IT. THE SAME REASON BECAUSE THERE IS VERY LITTLE NATURAL SPACE LEFT. AND THERE WON'T BE IF WE DON'T KEEP IT. AND YOU KNOW WHEN, WHEN YOU SPEAK OF ALL THE BENEFITS PEOPLE GET FROM NATURE. IN PARKS AND RECREATION. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. AND HERE WE HAVE IT. AND NOT MUCH OF IT, AND SO I'M IN FAVOR VERY MUCH, AND I'M PROBABLY GOING TO SPEAK AGAIN ON STUFF LATER, BUT I GUESS I'LL WAIT FOR THE LATER OKAY? ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. MR MAYOR, I AM CALLING STAR WALT AT 11 43 GREENWAY DRIVE AND THE REASON WHY I RESCINDED MY OTHER THING WAS LIKE I JUST WANTED TO COME AND SEND THEM IN FAVOR OF THIS PRESERVE. AND SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE OF THE I'M SORRY. I CAN'T READ WHAT'S IN HERE. BUT THIS WHAT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. VEGAS.

6 11 ORIOLE. UM I JUST WANT TO BRING TO MIND THE WORD HINKY. HINKY. UM, IT KIND OF. YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THIS STUFF. OF THE WORD SHENANIGANS ALSO COMES TO MIND HAS COME TO MIND. BUT HINKY IT ANYWAY. ANY SCOOBY DOO FANS? SORRY. UH SO, SO SCOOBY DOO, UM, BACK IN THE

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SEVENTIES EIGHTIES, UM WHEN? WHEN THE KIDS HAD GOTTEN TOGETHER AND HAD BEEN SCARED LONG ENOUGH. THEY FACE THEIR FEARS, AND THEN THEY WOULD DISCOVER WHO WAS BEHIND. TRYING TO REMOVE AND SILENCE THEIR VOICES. SO IF WE HAVE BEEN THE SILENCED MAJORITY, WE ARE NO LONGER SILENT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS, ESPECIALLY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. SEEING NONE. ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. PLEASE COME FORWARD. THANK YOU. MAYOR STAN SMITH AT 1, 15 EAST DAVIS STREET UNIT D. I WAS ON THE COUNCIL. I LEARNED THAT PEOPLE THAT CARRY PETITIONS AROUND BY TALKING TO MY FAMILY MEMBERS IN TOWN AT THE TIME. THEY WERE SIGNED SOMETHING I'D ASK HIM. WHY BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD SOMETHING THAT WAS SO FAR FROM WHAT THE REALITY WAS. I DON'T EVER SIGNED PETITIONS BECAUSE OF THAT. AND I KNOW THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE TOLD THERE WAS GOING TO BE A DOLLAR STORE. PUT OVER HERE ON THIS PROPERTY. I WOULD NEVER BE IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BUT THIS PROPERTY IS BIG ENOUGH, AND THERE'S ENOUGH OF IT. THAT WE COULD PUT SOME REALLY GOOD QUALITY RESTAURANTS, WHICH WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT BACK IN THE EIGHTIES. I'M TALKING CALIBER OF PAPA DOES OR OR OR, YOU KNOW, RED LOBSTER, OLIVE GARDEN, THOSE KIND OF THINGS BUT REALLY UPSCALE. THAT COULD HAVE A PATIO. BY THE BY THE CREEK BECAUSE THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL CREEK THERE. AND THERE'S PLENTY OF LAND TO HAVE A NATURE CENTER AND PLENTY OF LAND THERE THAT WE COULD GET SOME GOOD QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. AND I WANT WHEN I WAS A DAD AND MY CHILDREN, SON AND DAUGHTER BOTH WERE PLAYING SOCCER AND BASEBALL. HARRINGTON PARK. MOST PART FACILITIES WERE SO BAD I MEAN, I WOULD EVERY YEAR I SEE PARENTS. HEY, HAVE Y'ALL SIGNED UP FOR Y'ALL HAVE Y'ALL SIGNED UP FOR DR BELL BOYS BASEBALL INC IT WHEN NO, NO, WE'RE GOING TO THE SODA. WE'RE GOING TO WALK TO HATCH YOUR GRAND PRAIRIE OR SOMEWHERE THAT HAD BETTER FACILITIES THAN WE DID. MADE MY SON WOULD GO IN AND CHANGE CLOTHES BETWEEN SOCCER AND BASEBALL, AND THERE WAS ONE AREA OF THE BATHROOM. I WOULD MAKE SURE HE STOOD IN ONE AREA BECAUSE THE FLOOR WAS NOT WET AND ONE AREA SO WE'RE SOCKS WOULDN'T GET WET. BUT THAT'S HOW BAD OUR PARK FACILITIES ARE. AND HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING ON MORE PARKLAND WHEN WE DON'T EVEN REALLY TAKE CARE OF THE PARK PARKS. WE HAVE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. I CAN SEE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A PRESERVE, BUT CERTAINLY NOT TAKING THE BEST LAND THAT WE HAVE LEFT WHEN WE COULD PUT GOOD QUALITY RESTAURANTS IN THERE AND MAYBE GET THREE OR $400,000 A YEAR REVENUE AND HAVE MAYBE TWO OR THREE PLACES THAT PEOPLE WOULD REALLY ENJOY GOING TO EAT. IN DUNCANVILLE, AND I HAVE TO GO TO DALLAS OR ANY OTHER CITY AROUND US TO GO EAT SOMEWHERE. WHAT'S THAT? UM. POINT OF ORDER . PLEASE DO NOT SPEAK UNLESS YOU'RE COMING FORWARD AND RECOGNIZE THANK YOU ANYWAY, BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO SAY IS YOU KNOW? UH, YOU KNOW IF YOU NEED TO TABLE AT TABLET BUT, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE THAT WE DO SOMETHING POSITIVE AS FAR AS PUTTING IN A FEW GOOD QUALITY RESTAURANTS OR AT LEAST ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN. AND NOT NOT SETTING EVERY BIT OF THAT LAND ASIDE. YOU KNOW? OPPORTUNITY TO BE JUST A WILDLIFE PRESERVE.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. MARK ROYCE BAIL. 12 15 WELLINGTON DRIVE. GO. TEXAS MICHIGAN TERRITORY, YOU'RE FEELING BETTER. UM WE WAITED A LONG TIME FOR THIS FOR THIS VOTE. TO COME UP HERE AND WHEN I SEE WHAT WAS PRESENTED FOR YOU TO VOTE ON. I FEEL LIKE WE GOT BETRAYED. WE PROMISED THE NATURE PRESERVE. MULTIPLE TIMES. AND NOW IT'S GOING TO A ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, SO WE WANT TO PUT PAPA DOES GRIEF IN THE CREEK. SEVEN NATURE PRESERVE.

SO, UM. I AGREE WITH HAVING TO PRESERVE. I DON'T AGREE WITH C AND D MAKING IT APART TO RECREATION. DEPARTMENT. SIMS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF RULE LOTS MORE TO PEOPLE THAN I HAVE. I AM PUT THIS THING TOGETHER AND WROTE THE ORDINANCE THAT WE SUBMITTED AND A LOT OF THE

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ORDINANCE WITH USED AND THEN THEN SOMEBODY CAME IN AND GOT SOME BAD ADVICE AND PUT SOME I WAS STUFF IN THERE. THAT MAKES IT WHERE WE CAN'T GET FUNDING FOR THAT POINT FOR THE NATURE PRESERVE. WE NEED TO HAVE A NATURE PRESERVE. WE NEED TO HAVE A CONSERVATIVE. WE CAN GET FINED. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE IN LINE THAT WANNA GIVE MONEY AND HAVE HAVE ACTUALLY CALLING TO SEE IF WE GOT THE THING DONE YET. MAN AND WITH THE CITY IN THE FINANCIAL POSITION THAT THEY'RE IN. IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU'VE GOT A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DO THIS AND THEY'VE GOT FUNDING BEHIND HIM TO TAKE CARE OF IT. THAT IT WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT EASIER JUST TO LET THEM TAKE CARE OF THIS NATURE PRESERVE IN THERE AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF FOCUS ON WHAT YOU REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON AS FAR AS FINANCE THANKS. YOU MAY TAKE YOUR PIECE OF PAPER WITH YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE. THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN EMOTIONAL MAYOR JUST PROCEDURAL QUESTION. AND PUBLIC HEARINGS. AH THERE'S A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL THAT'S ALLOWED RIGHT. IF. IF NECESSARY, OR IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SPEAK IN RESPONSE TO SOMETHING SOMEONE ELSE, SAYS. WE CAN'T THERE IS THERE IS A PROVISION FOR A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL TO ANY REMARKS THAT ARE MADE. AND WE CAN IMPOSE THAT, IF IT SO DESIRED. DOES ANYBODY WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAKING REBUTTAL TO ANY COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE? EMILY BRIDGES FOR 18 OLEANDER. TO WHAT WAS JUST SAID. AS IN OPPOSITION , WE HAVE TONS OF SPACE IN OUR CITY WHERE WE COULD PUT NEW RESTAURANTS INTO AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF GOOD RESTAURANTS TO EAT HERE. YOU KNOW, IT'S THE THEY'RE JUST NOT BIG BOX. I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET AT. AND THE CITIZENS FOR OVER TWO YEARS NOW HAVE ASKED FOR THE ENTIRE 42 ACRES TO BE A PRESERVE. SO I UNDERSTAND THE OPPOSITION, BUT THAT LAND HAS BEEN SITTING AROUND FOR 25 YEARS AND NO RESTAURANT HAS BEEN ON IT. AND FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD HERE AT COUNCIL IN MULTIPLE TIMES IS NOBODY WANTS IT AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO BUILD ON. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF PRESERVING THE 42 ACRES AS ARE THE CITIZENS THAT ARE HERE. THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, IN PART THAT ARE WHAT THAT'S WHAT ALL THE PETITIONS ARE THAT WE HAVE TURNED INTO Y'ALL AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE SERIOUS. THANK YOU. THIS IS IN REBUTTAL, SIR. NAME AND ADDRESS PLACE GRAHAM 14 AND SANTA FE TRAIL. UM RESTAURANTS. I THINK THERE'S 42 ACRES DOWN THERE. THAT'S NOT BIG. IF YOU DID ANY RESEARCH IN ANY FORM OF FASHION TALK TO ANY EXPERTS. YOU TAKE AND START BUILDING ALONG THAT CREEK. YOU'RE GONNA DESTROY THAT CREEK YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO HAVING TO CONCRETE. MAKE THEM TODAY. THERE'S NO POINT IN TALKING ABOUT RESTAURANTS DOWN THERE. IT'S NOT GONNA WORK. THERE'S NO NEED FOR IT. YOU'VE GOT EMPTY BUILDINGS HERE. NOW THAT YOU NEED TO FEEL WE DON'T NEED TO BUILD NEW BUILDINGS ON A VERY, VERY NICE PIECE OF FAIRLY PRISTINE NATURAL LEFT. THANK YOU. IF WE ARE STILL IN REBUTTAL, THERE'S ONLY A FIVE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. FIVE MINUTES . MY NAME IS JASMINE JENSEN. I LIVE AT 7 11 OLYMPIA DRIVE. I HAVE SPOKEN TO MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS. I LIVE IN THE SKY VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT SOUTH OF THE LAD PROPERTY, AND SO MANY OF THEM HAVE EXPRESSED THAT THEY DO NOT LIVE HERE FOR THE INDUSTRY. THEY LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF ALL THE GREEN SPACES IF THEY WANTED TO LIVE SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY'RE MORE RESTAURANTS, THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLACES THEY COULD LIVE IN THE DFW. AREA. THEY LIVE HERE BECAUSE OF THOSE GREEN SPACES. NICHOLAS RIGHT, BY THE SEVENTH STORAGE, RIGHT? I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, DUNCANVILLE ALREADY HAS A PAPA DOUGH AND OLIVE GARDEN AND RED LOBSTER. I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT A SECOND. UH BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO OPEN A RESTAURANT, THINK BEN FRANKLIN IS GOING TO BE FOR SALE PRETTY SOON, SO WE CAN OPEN ONE THERE.

ROBBY ROBIN IS 343 SHORT DRIVE DUNCANVILLE. WE WOULD NEVER GET ANYTHING OUT OF. ANOTHER RESTAURANT THAT WE COULD GET OUT OF THIS PROPERTY AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY, UM I MEAN, WE KNOW

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THAT THERE'S ALREADY A LACK OF GREEN SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO INTERACT WITH NATURE TO BEGIN WITH. WE WANT KIDS OUTSIDE. WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE AREAS TO GO OUTSIDE. AND THERE'S 1% LESS THAN 1% OF TALLGRASS PRAIRIES LEFT IN IN THEIR CURRENT STATE. EVEN IF YOU WERE IN THE BLACK LAND PRAIRIE REGION, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE IN. SO THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL PIECE OF LAND THAT COULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO LOSE IT. CITY SECRETARY. HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE UNDER REBUTTAL? ANYONE ELSE IN REBUTTAL? HELLO I'M EVA WALTERS. 11 15 COLBERT LANE. I'M IN REBUTTAL OF THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT, BECAUSE I THINK DOING ANYTHING TO THE LAND TO PUT ANYTHING THAT COULD ADD MORE TRACTION TO IT WOULD ONLY DO THE OPPOSITE THE ABSOLUTE OPPOSITE BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS OUR SISTER CEDARS ARE SISTER CITIES , CEDAR HILL HAS IS BEAUTIFUL MIGRATORY BIRD WATCHING. WE GET THE EXACT SAME MARKET. TORREY BIRDWATCHING THROUGH THE LAD LAND. I'VE BEEN WORKING PARTIALLY WITH TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE TO HELP PROVE THE BIODIVERSITY THAT'S DOWN THERE, AND THERE'S EVERYTHING FROM GREAT BLUE HERRINGS TO BEAVERS IN THE RIVER. ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD DO THAT WOULD CONSTRUCT ANYTHING WOULD NOT ONLY CHASE THIS WILDLIFE OFF INTO OUR PROPERTIES THAT WE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTING OR ANYTHING NEARBY. BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS I'VE HEARD FROM THE AREA AS A VILLAGE TECH STUDENT IS THE TRAFFIC ALREADY THE TRAFFIC FROM CONSTRUCTION AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WOULD BRING WOULD ONLY UPSET THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA MORE AND THERE'S SO MANY EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE DONE THEIR FROM ESTABLISHING GARDENS TO BEING ABLE TO GET SCHOOLS OUT THERE. BOY SCOUTS DOWN THERE. THERE ARE SO MANY MORE OPPORTUNITIES AS A GREEN SPACE THAN ANYTHING CONCRETE. THANK YOU. ONE MINUTE 15 SECONDS, ANYONE ELSE IN REBUTTAL? SEEING NONE. THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MOVED SECOND. MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING LEVELS FROM MCBURNETT SECOND, MR COONS COUNCIL. YOU'RE VOTING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PLEASE VOTE.

MR CONTRERAS VOTES? YES AS WELL. THANK YOU. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. TIMESTAMP 903. IT'S TIME NOW FOR DISCUSSION BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ANY DISCUSSION BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MISS CHERRY BROWN. IS MR STEVENSON AROUND, BART. THEY SEE HIM IF THAT'S OKAY IF I ASK THEM QUESTIONS IT'S OUR TIME. HELLO, QUESTION. HOW MANY PARKS DO WE HAVE IN DUNCANVILLE? WE HAVE 17 PARKS 244 ACRES. OKAY SO IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, ROUGHLY, DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'VE INVESTED IN BEAUTIFYING THOSE PARKS? PROBABLY A NUMBER. I CAN GIVE YOU SOME OF MY HAIR AND DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT. OKAY SIGNIFICANTLY, OKAY. AND I HAD I WAS GONNA SAY THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH MY QUESTION TO THAT. BUT I WAS LOOKING AT THE REVIEWS OF THE PARKS AND, UM GREAT REVIEWS ON ON THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE. SO I'M I'M I'M GOOD WITH TALKING TO YOU. THANKS BUT I DID WANT TO SAY THAT I'M VERY MUCH AN OUTDOORS PERSON. UM AND THEY'VE BEEN UTILIZING PRETTY MUCH ARMSTRONG PARK SINCE I'VE BEEN IN DUNCANVILLE. AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE UM, WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING IS LOOKING AT THE FUTURE OF DUNCANVILLE, THOUGH I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE YOU KNOW, AS A COMMUNITY, WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH UTILIZING DIFFERENT THINGS, WHETHER IT'S NOT PER SE, A RESTAURANT. BUT WHERE WE DON'T JUST TIE THE LAND UP FOR YEARS TO COME. I THINK ABOUT THE I JUST THINK ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, LIKE I EXPERIENCED THE AND, AND I KNOW THIS MAY NOT MAKE SENSE TO YOU, BUT I THINK ABOUT THE BUT ALSO A RACE RIOT SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE SAID, AND SOMEONE ELSE TOOK AND RAN WITH IT AND 100 YEARS LATER, UM, THAT THE CITY IS STILL TRYING TO RE HEAL FROM THAT AND 100 YEARS FROM NOW, WE WON'T BE HERE AND SO THAT'S WHAT I SAID. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING THAT WE DON'T I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN SO INVOLVED WITH OUR MOTIONS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A WIN OR LOSE, BUT IF WE DO IT THIS WAY WE'RE LOSING. IF WE DO IT THIS WAY, WE'LL WIN. BUT AS A CITY LIKE I SAID, THAT WE LOOK AT YOU KNOW

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WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST AND THAT IS A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY, BECAUSE IT IS ENOUGH LAND OUT THERE. AND THAT'S THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON THAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR COUNTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. MR WARREN. IS HE STILL HERE? WOULD YOU MIND EXPLAINING THE DEED RESTRICTIONS? YEAH. SO. UM DESCRIPTIONS THAT WERE PLACED ONTO THE PROPERTY WHEN THEY WHEN, UH, MR LAD, GIFTED THE PROPERTY. TO THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. THERE ARE LIST OF CERTAIN DEED RESTRICTIONS TIED TO THE TO THE TO THE GIFT. LIKE I MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION.

THEY WERE ARE JUST ARTISTIC ALLEGE OCCASIONAL CULTURAL. THERE WERE THINGS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS AN ICE RINK. AS WELL. UM. BUT THOSE WERE JUST PART OF THE SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE TIED TO THE GIFT. SO I MEAN THE DEED RESTRICTIONS PLACE. QUITE A BIT OF LIMITATION ON WHAT COULD BE DONE. ON THE PROPERTY. YES THAT'S WHAT NATURE DID REJECTIONS AND SO IN, UH, THE PROPERTY WAS DOING IT AND DONATE IN 1998. AND WHERE WERE QUARTER OF A CENTURY LATER. YES SIR. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN THE LAD PROPERTY OR THE LAD LAD FAMILY DONATED THE PROPERTY. THAT THEY HAD AN INTENTION THAT THE CITY WOULD DO SOMETHING WITH THAT PROPERTY. AND LIKE YOU SAID, THERE WAS A WHOLE LIST OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE. LIBRARY MUSEUM NATURE TRIP WHATEVER IT WAS, AND THEIR INTENT WAS THAT SOMETHING WOULD BE DONE WITH THE PROPERTY RIGHT AFTER WHEN THEY GAVE THE GIFT. I WOULD SAY SO. YES, AND SO AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN A QUARTER OF A CENTURY LATER. AND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE WITH THE PROPERTY. UM IT'S CLEAR FROM THE DATA RESTRICTIONS. THAT. THEY WANTED SOMETHING TO BE DONE WITH THE PROPERTY THAT BENEFITED THE COMMUNITY. IN THE BACKGROUND ON THE STAFF REPORT. IT SAYS THAT THE CITY ADVERTISE THE PROPERTY FOR DEVELOPMENT THROUGH AN RFP RIGHT IN 2017. SO WHAT WAS WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE FROM THAT? UM THERE WAS THERE WAS NO TAKERS. AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT AN RFP S REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL? UM IT'S A OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO BID ON THE PROPERTY . OKAY, SO WE REACHED OUT TO DEVELOPERS AND WE TRY TO GET SOME IDEAS OR SOMEHOW. WE COULD DEVELOP IT AND THERE WERE THERE WERE NO RESPONSES ON THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. DO WE KNOW HAVE ANY REASONS WHY ANY I CAN THINK OF SOME REASONS, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THAT COME TO MIND. FOR ONE.

THERE'S A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE FLOODPLAIN CREEK GAS LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY. UH, SO THERE ARE CHALLENGES TO DEVELOPMENT. UH UM. SO I'M NOT A DEVELOPER, BUT I GUESS, UH, THE INABILITY FOR THE FOR THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO BE SUCCESSFUL, IS TELLING. AND SINCE THE RFP IN 2017 HAVE THERE BEEN ANY OTHER IDEAS HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE TABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT. ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS PROPOSALS TO THE COUNCIL'S NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. NOT NO RESTAURANT IDEAS THAT WERE PROPOSED TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

NOBODY PROPOSED A MUSEUM OR LIBRARY. ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S MY KNOWLEDGE. UM. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. WHAT WAS THE REASONING BEHIND THAT? SO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT SHOWS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH OFFICE BASED RETAIL SPACE. AND. THAT'S WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. THAT'S THE CURRENT ZONING, SO THAT'S A PIVOTAL PIECE OF THIS FOR UH, STEP PROCESS MOVING AWAY FROM OPPORTUNITY AREA, WHICH IS THE ITEM BEFORE US CURRENTLY. UH THAT'S THE FIRST STEP BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S DESIGNATE NOT ONLY FOR DEVELOPMENT AS A DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, BUT FOR, UH INCENTIVIZED DEVELOPMENT, REDUCE REDUCTIONS TO PARKING REQUIREMENTS, THINGS OF THIS NATURE. SO THAT'S REALLY THE FIRST STEP IS CLEARING IT OFF OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN. AND WE CAN AFTER THAT. MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT STEPS. OKAY? I'LL JUST ONE MORE QUICK COMMENT, AND THEN I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE. I MEAN, IT'S BEEN 25 YEARS. AND UH, I'VE HEARD EVEN ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS COUNCIL SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT ANYTHING WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT PROPERTY. IT'S BEEN 25 YEARS THAT NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE WITH IT. SO YOU WOULD APPEAR TO

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AH! THEY EMPHASIZE NATURE TRAILS AND GREENWAY CORRIDORS AND THAT WAS A HIGH PRIORITY. AND SO MY POINT IS THAT IT MIGHT APPEAR THAT WE'RE TAKING SOMETHING AWAY FROM FROM OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. BUT UH, CONSIDERING THAT THE WHAT'S ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT . WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, ACCOMPLISHING MULTIPLE OBJECTIVES OVER THIS PLAN AND ONE OF THEM BY CREATING THIS PRESERVED. WE'RE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE THAT WE HAVE AND THAT ACCOMPLISHES, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND PEOPLE WANTED MORE. THEY WANTED TO FOCUS MORE ON REDEVELOPMENT, NOT NEW DEVELOPMENT. AND SO AGAIN, YOU INSTEAD OF PUTTING RESOURCES AND MONEY INTO BUILDING NEW THINGS, WE PUT THAT MONEY AND RESOURCES INTO REVITALIZATION. I THINK THAT, UH , ACCOMPLISHES THAT GOAL OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO I'LL STOP THERE. AND SO I'M IN FAVOR, BY

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THE WAY. UH, AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT'S GOOD. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, MR BART STEVENSON. YEAH. SO AGAIN. HOW MANY PARKS DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE 17? HOW MANY DID WE HAVE IN 2017? 17 WE HAD 20 WE HAD IN 2017 WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS DEVELOPED IN THE STUDIES WERE DONE THAT STATE WE WANT MORE GREEN SPACES. WE HAD 17 PARKS THEN, TOO.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON PARTY COUNCIL. CHAIR LIEUTENANT MOTION TO APPROVE. SOME MOVED SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE BY MR MCBURNETT. SECOND BY MR KOONTZ.

THE COUNCIL, PLEASE MAYOR BEFORE YOU VOTE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND. MR KOONTZ HAD A NUMBER OF SUGGESTIONS. HE SAID FIVE C AND D. MY CORRECT. AND I WAS GOING TO COVER FIVE C AND D WHEN WE GET TO THOSE PARTICULARS BECAUSE THEY HAD DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO COVER EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALLY AND NON AGGREGATE, GIVEN THE FACT. THAT THOSE PERSONS WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS. PROJECT. I WANT YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF ITEMS. FIVE B, C, D AND E. HAVE LOCKED ON THIS TERM. NATURE PRESERVE. BECAUSE IT MEANS SOMETHING TO THEM. BASED ON POTENTIAL DONATORS OF FUNDS. IF I THINK I UNDERSTAND IT. I AS A LAND USE LAWYER. HAVE HOOKED ON THE WORD CONSERVATION DISTRICT. BECAUSE THAT ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME GOALS OF ALL BIT BROADER, AND I'VE HEARD THERE'S BEEN SOME CRITICISM ABOUT ALLOWING MANMADE STRUCTURES IN THIS LAD PROPERTY AND WE'LL GET TO THAT WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE. I'M GONNA ASK MR KOONTZ. THESE ARE HIS AMENDMENTS IF HE WANTS THE WORD NATURE PRESERVE ADDED TO THE CHANGES THAT I MADE. IN THE ORDINANCE TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS FOR THE LAD PROPERTY TO BE A NATURE PRESERVE AND CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND THE FUTURE. I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE USES AND THE DEFINITIONS WE DO, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IN YOUR COP PLAN TO AND THAT'S WHY I'M STOPPING YOU NOW. DO YOU WANT TO INCLUDE IT? DOES THE MOTION AND I'LL READ IT TO YOU. SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YOU GO TO PAGE TWO OF THE ORDINANCE. IT SAYS THAT DUNCAN'S DUNCANVILLE DESIRES TO PROVIDE CONSERVATION AREAS. IT SAYS DUNCANVILLE DESIRES TO PROVIDE CONSERVATION AREAS TO PRESERVE ENVIRONMENTAL SIGNIFICANT AREAS FREE FROM COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT NATURAL BOTANIC AND WILDLIFE SPECIES. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. DO YOU WANT TO ADD THEN AND NATURE PRESERVES, INCLUDING AREAS DESIGNATED TO REMAIN IN A NATURAL, UNDEVELOPED STATE FOR THE PROTECTION OF NATIVE WILDLIFE PLANT? HABITAT AND NATURAL RESOURCES AND TO PROVIDE PASSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION. BECAUSE THAT'S THOSE WORDS THAT YOU ADDED. I THINK IT DOES NO HARM. BUT IF THOSE WORDS ARE MAGIC FOR YOU AND THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THIS, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU PUT THEM IN THIS DOCUMENT AS WELL. SO REPLACING NATURE CONSERVATION AREA WITH NATURE PRESERVE. ADDING ADDING NATURE PRESERVED, OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY THAT WORKS, OKAY? WELL, I HAVE A COMMENT. BECAUSE I NEED TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING. CITY ATTORNEY WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT AND ITEM FIVE. FIVE D IN TERMS OF WHAT I READ. ESTABLISHES THE TERM NATURE PRESERVE AND THE ACRONYM N P. TO BE CHANGED TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE IN THAT PARTICULAR ITEM, AND THEN WE GO ON TO FIVE E, WHICH YOU BROUGHT INTO PLAY ALREADY, RIGHT? AS A RESULT OF CONVERSATION WITH MR CODES AND THAT FIVE E IS THEN GOING TO

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CHANGE THE MASTER PLAN THAT ZONING MAC FROM A PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO AN NP NATURE PRESERVE OF 42.419 ACRES, WHICH IS SPECIFIC TO THE TERM NP, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE AS NATURE PRESERVE, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSERVATION OPEN DISTRICT, WHICH IS IN ITEM FIVE C. I DON'T WANT TO EVER HAVE TO REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID EVER AGAIN, AND IF I PUT IT IN HERE.

I'VE CURED THAT PROBLEM. INSTEAD OF HAVING A. AN EXERCISE IN LATIN LOGIC. WHERE YOU HAVE. YOU KNOW, POSTULATE, AND THEN YOU HAVE A CAN LOGICAL CONCLUSION AT THE END. I HAVE TO WRITE THESE SO SOMEONE DOWNTOWN WITH THE BLACK ROBE THAT FINISHED LAST IN THEIR CLASS TEST TO UNDERSTAND.

AND I'M BEING A. A LITTLE TONGUE IN CHEEK WHEN I SAY THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT. SYLLOGISM IS WHAT THEY USED TO CALL THAT AND WHEN I WHEN I TOOK A LOGIC TO EXPLAIN THAT BUT WHAT I SEE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING NOW FIVE B IS SIMPLY WE ARE TAKING OPPORTUNITY. EIGHT OFF OF THE COMP PLAN IS A QUOTE UNQUOTE FREE FROM COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S THE ITEM THAT WE'RE VOTING ON. AND YOU'VE INTRODUCED LANGUAGE NOW, SO I'M CONFUSED. WHAT ARE WE WHAT NOW WOULD BE THE QUALITY OF LIFE, IT SAYS IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU DUNCANVILLE DESIRES TO PROVIDE A CONSERVATION AREA TO PRESERVE ENVIRONMENTAL SIGNIFICANT AREAS FREE FROM COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT NATURAL BOTANICAL AND WILDLIFE SPECIES. BUT YOU IN YOUR CONVERSATION WITH MR COATS WENT BACK TO THE COM PLANT. THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING CONFUSED. WE'RE VOTING ON WHAT'S GOING ON. THIS IS THE COMPLEX CONFIDENT OF TURNING OPPORTUNITY. EIGHT. RIGHT? AND IT SAYS IN AN OPPORTUNITY EIGHT UNDER THE CHAPTER THAT WE DESIRE TO HAVE NATURE AREAS IN CONSERVATION AREAS, THAT'S ALL IT'S SAYING. YOU'RE JUST AMENDING THE LANGUAGE TO INCLUDE THE WORD NATURE PRESERVE IN MY MIND AS LAWYER ALL NATURE PRESERVES OR CONSERVATION AREAS , BUT NOT ALL CONSERVATION AREAS OR NATURE PRESERVES THE HAVE TO EVEN VOTE ON ITEM FIVE E, WHICH IS TALKING ABOUT MAKING NATURE PRESERVE OF 42.219 ACRES. YES, BECAUSE COM PLANS ARE NOT ZONING. CALM PLANTS. DO US A FAVOR. READ THE MOTION THAT YOU INTEND FOR US TO VOTE ON IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BUSTER KUNZ HAS PREFERRED TO STATE WHAT'S YOURS? YOU HAVE PUT IN HIS WORDS. I WILL. 2317 ARE. 2317 ARE. YES, SIR. MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2371 WITH THE INCLUSION OF THE DEFINITION OFFERED BY MR COONS AND CHAPTER FOUR QUALITY OF LIFE. TO THE CONSERVATION AREA TO ADD THE DEFINITION OF NATURE PRESERVE, WHICH SHALL READ, INCLUDING AREAS DESIGNATED TO REMAIN IN A NATURAL AND UNDEVELOPED STATE FOR THE PROTECTION OF NATIVE WILDLIFE PLANT HABIT. TAT AND NATURAL RESOURCES AND TO PROVIDE . PASSIVE AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION. DOES EVERYONE ON COUNCIL UNDERSTAND? THE MOTION IS BEFORE US? CLEARLY NOW I DIDN'T MEAN TO RUN ON BUT, YOU KNOW, TOOK THE TRADE AROUND THE MOUNTAIN AROUND THE MOUNTAIN FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE LEAVE HERE TONIGHT, WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. EXACTLY AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HAVE SOME OPEN DISCUSSION TO HERE, SO WE UNDERSTAND IT. MISS CHARITY. I WAS GONNA SAY IT IS LEAVING MUDDIER TO ME NOW, SO. BECAUSE IT WAS SAYING, UM, A MAN. HELP ME HELP ME AGAIN WITH THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RIGHT AMENDING THE COM PLAN IS THE FIRST DOCUMENT IN A SERIES OF DOCUMENTS THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO DO ZONING. AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE COMPLAINT IN FRONT OF US FOR REFERENCE AND THE COMPLAINTS ORGANIC. IT CHANGES OVER TIME BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE SITTING HERE NOW KNOWS 10 YEARS FROM NOW, EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OUT THERE IN THE WORLD. SO THEY TRY TO IDENTIFY AREAS OF TOWN. THIS IS WHERE WE WANT RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS WHERE WE WANT RETAIL. THIS IS WHERE WE WANT OFFICE. THIS IS WHERE WE WANT MULTI FAMILY AND THEIR BUBBLES ON MAPS. AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN OUR COMP PLAN THROUGH ADOPTION OF THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THE PARK PLAN AND OTHER WATER AND SEWER PLAN WHERE WE BELIEVE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO TAKE PLACE. AND THEN WE DID THAT IN 2 17. WE IDENTIFIED WHAT IS NOW EUPHEMISTICALLY REFERRED TO AS LAD PROPERTY AS A SITE WERE OPPORTUNITY AREA A. WHERE WE ENVISION ALREADY HAD ZONING ON

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IT THAT IT WOULD BE SOME KIND OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT. DEVELOPED IN THREE PHASES WITH COMMERCIAL, UH AND RESTAURANT AND RETAIL USES. AND THEN THERE'D BE A GREEN STRIP, WHICH WAS PHASE THREE, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE CREEK FLOODWAY. AND SO THAT BECAME OPPORTUNITY AREA A. AND THAT WAS ADOPTED COMP PLANT SO BEFORE I COULD EITHER ZONE OR REZONE THAT PROPERTY IT HAS TO MATCH THE COM PLAN BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE SPOT ZONING. SO ALL ZONING HAS TO MATCH THE COM PLANT IN ORDER TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY TO WHAT THESE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE US TO DO TONIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE IT. IT'S NO LONGER OPPORTUNITY AREA EIGHT. IT'S GOING TO BE CONSERVATION AND NATURE PRESERVE AREA. SO YOU HAVE TO DO THAT FIRST BEFORE YOU CAN PUT THE ZONING ON IT. EVEN IF YOU GO AND VOTE FOR THE ZONING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHANGE YOUR COM PLAN OR IT'S CALLED SPOT ZONING, WHICH IS ILLEGAL IN TEXAS. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS IN THE SEQUENCE THAT WE ARE DOING. UNDERSTANDING THE SEQUENCE THAT MR JAGGERS, REFERRING TO, IF ANY ONE OF THESE IS NOT APPROVED, WE DON'T HIT THE END POINT. YEAH, WE CAN HAVE TO BE APPROVED IN SEQUENCE BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. WHAT WHAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. WE'RE DOING THIS THE RIGHT WAY. THE SEQUENCE OF FIVE B, C D AND E IS THE SEQUENCE THAT HAS TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO PUT THIS IN LEGAL TERMS CORRECTLY, AND WE'RE DOING IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS PUT FORWARD FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IT THAT WAY CHANGING THE COMP PLAN TO SHOW OPPORTUNITY AREA A TO BE A CONSERVATION GREEN SPACE AREA.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ADDING THE TERM CONSERVATION. AREA. OR TO ADDING NATURE PRESERVES. SORRY, WE'RE ADDING NATURE PRESERVE TO THE COMP PLAN, AS IS WHEN IT WHEREVER IT STATED AND THAT WOULD BE FOLLOWED THROUGH IN LEGAL PROCEEDINGS, OKAY? COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE. MR CONTRERAS. YOU'RE GONNA THERE HE IS, IS 6 TO 1. THANK YOU. MOTION IS APPROVED. ARE WE GOING TO

[5.C. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider an Ordinance by amending Appendix A ‘Zoning Ordinance’, Article II ‘Zoning Districts’, Sections 2.01 ‘Special Zoning Districts Subsection C ‘Conservation Open Space District (COD); by amending Article III. ‘Land Uses’ Sections 3.03 ‘Use Chart’, 3.04 ‘additional use regulations’, by amending Article VI ‘Definitions’.]

ITEM FIVE C. CONDUCTING PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERING ORDINANCE BY OMITTING APPENDIX A ZONING ORDINANCE ARTICLE TO ZONING DISTRICT SECTIONS 2.01 SPECIAL ZONING DISTRICT SUBSECTION C.

WHOOPS. DID I FIT? YOU KNOW, I'M RIGHT. SO CONSERVATION OPEN SPACE. UH C O PRINCE C O D.

AMENDING. ARTICLE THREE LAND USES SECTION 3.03 USE CHART 3.04 , ADDING ADDITIONAL USE REGULATIONS BY MANY. ARTICLE SIX DEFINITIONS. I WILL NOTE HERE THAT WE HAVE A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR. THERE'S A TYPE OF PAPRIKA TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR SHOWING IT AMENDING ARTICLE SIX IN ROMAN NUMERALS. THAT'S V I THE CORRECT NOMENCLATURE FOR THAT IS V. I IT SHOULD READ ARTICLES. SEVEN ARTICLE V II. WE'RE MAKING THAT STATEMENT NOW, MR WARREN, PLEASE PROCEED. THANK YOU. SO THE REQUEST IS TO ADD IN TO FIND A NEW LAND USED TO THE CONFERENCE OF ZONING ORDINANCE. THIS NEW LAND USE THE DEFINITION THAT WAS RUBBER FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. WAS AN AREA INTENDED TO REMAIN IN A PREDOMINANTLY NATURAL OR UNDEVELOPED STATE TO PROVIDE RESOURCE PROTECTION, PASSIVE RECREATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION FOR PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.

THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON A LAND USE CHART OUR LAND YOU STARTED. IN SECTION 3.03

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PERMITTED YOU START SO THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THERE'S A LAND USE NATURE PRESERVE UNDER RECREATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT USES. AND THE. FAR RIGHT OF THE OF THE EU'S CHART. YOU SEE THE NEW, UH ZONING DISTRICT NATURE PRESERVE NP WITH ONE DOT SHOWING THAT THERE'S ONLY 11 USE ALLOWED, WHICH IS A NATURE PRESERVE. THIS WAS VOTED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ITEM WAS RECOMMENDED. UNANIMOUSLY FOR 20. IN YOUR PACKETS. THE UH, CURRENTS, UH, DRAFT ORDINANCE HAS, UH, SOME CHANGES. SECTION 3.03 PERMITTED USE CHART. HEY NATURE AREAS BE EDUCATIONAL FACILITY. SEE ECOLOGICAL ENVIRONMENTAL THAT'S RESEARCH FACILITY. THE PARKING LOT OR GATHERING OR PUBLIC GATHERING SPACE WITH PREAMBLE, VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN AREAS. E OPEN SPACE SLASH NATURAL AREAS. AND THEN THERE'S THE CHART WITH THE ABBREVIATION C O D CONSERVATION OPEN. SPACE DISTRICT IN WHICH THERE ARE ACCESSORY USES OUTDOOR DISPLAY. WIND ENERGY. UM ALL THESE ARE SHOWN WITH AN S U P AND OPEN DOT UNDER EDUCATIONAL COMMUNITY CENTER PUBLIC PUBLIC FACILITY USE. AND THEN THE NEXT THREE ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHTS. RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT SCHOOL. COLLEGE SCHOOL PUBLIC. AND THEN OTHER REGISTERED RECREATIONAL USES. THERE ARE. AMUSEMENT, OUTDOOR TEMPORARY PARK PUBLIC WITHIN SCP RETAIL BROADLY STATED. S U P AND COMMERCIAL PROBABLY STATED WITHIN SCP. THE LAND USED TERM IN SECTION 7.02. IS FOR CONSERVATION AREA ENVIRONMENTAL SO MEAN. LAND. AREA OF REAL PROPERTY AND ITS NATURAL STATE CONCERT, CONSERVING OR PROTECTING NATURAL RESOURCES AND OR ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, WHICH PROTECTS QUALITY OR QUANTITY OF GROUNDWATER. SURFACE WATER, FISHERIES, VEGETATIVE COMMUNITY OR WILDLIFE HABITATS, MINERALS WITH NATURAL HISTORICAL OR AESTHETIC SIGNIFICANCE. AS YOU'LL NOTE THE FOLLOWING FOUR POINTS. THE PERMITTED USES HAVE CHANGED FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE NEW LAND USE IS NOT ON PROPOSED. PERMITTED TO YOU START SO THE THAT'S ANOTHER. OFFICER OF ATION. LAND USE NAME HAS CHANGED. LAND USE DEFINITION HAS CHANGED. SO THIS IS A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT'S PRESENTED BEFORE THE COUNCIL TODAY. BUT THE ABILITY TO MAKE CHANGES AND AMENDMENTS TO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE. UM. FROM WHAT WAS WHAT WAS PRESENTED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND WHAT IS BEFORE YOU AS A ORDINANCE IN YOUR PACKET. AND AGENDA. THANK YOU FOR STANDARD QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS WILL COME AFTER THE HEARING. MAYOR. YES, SIR. I'M THE AUTHOR OF THIS, UM CAMEL, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A HORSE. I WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY THE DEFINITIONS ARE THE WAY THEY AND THEN AND THIS IS FOR Y'ALL'S HELP. ONE I'M NOT PERFECT TO SOMETIMES YOU DON'T TELL ME THE MESSAGE CLEARLY ENOUGH THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MESSAGES Y'ALL Y'ALL? Y'ALL OUT THERE. MY TEXAS SHOWING. GIVE US THIS DOCUMENT. IT SAID. CHARLES OF FLAT PRESERVE WORLD CLASS NATURE CENTER AND RETREAT. I TOOK THIS DOCUMENT WHEN I DRAFTED THIS ORDINANCE AND LOOKED AT THE PRESENTATION OF THE THINGS THAT YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU WANTED THIS THING TO LOOK LIKE. AND YOU HAVE LOTS OF PRETTY PICTURES OF THINGS OF SCIENCE. ROCKS. TREE.

NOTATIONS. FORMATIONS OF OUTCROPPINGS OF ROCKS. THIS IS Y'ALL'S DOCUMENT. ALL I TRIED TO DO WAS WRITE WHAT YOU GAVE TO ME. IF YOU DON'T WANT THOSE THINGS FEEL FREE TO STRIKE ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE IN THESE ORDINANCES. BUT I TOOK THIS DOCUMENT AND I TOOK IT AT FACE VALUE. SO THAT WHEN SOMEONE SAID, WHY DO YOU PUT THAT IN THERE? I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF WHY I PUT THAT IN THERE. BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SHELTERS AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

YOU MAY YOU MAY ALL SAY WE DON'T WANT ALL THAT NOT TONIGHT. AND SO AND GRANTED. THIS WAS A

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DOCUMENT THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY MR JONES AND SOME OF THE PROPONENTS OF THE OF THIS LAD.

THAT'S WHERE I GOT THIS. IT'S NOT MINE, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I'VE DONE SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT ME TO DO. BUT DON'T THINK THAT SOMEONE IS TRYING TO PULL THE WALL OVER YOUR EYES OR SOMEONE GAVE ME LICENSE TO DO SOMETHING THAT IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANTED. I GOT THIS DOCUMENT FROM SOME OF YOU ALL AND I ONLY TRIED TO DO WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WANTED. NATHAN AND I AND JEREMY TO BRING THE SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE ANYTHING, DON'T BLAME JEREMY. DON'T BLAME NATHAN. YOU CAN BLAME ME. BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK SOMEONE IS OUT TRYING TO HOODWINK YOU OR HINKY YOU OR DO SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT, DONE OR WANT TO CONSIDER. SO THAT'S WHY I WROTE IT AS BRIGHT AS YOU WANTED. WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WANTED. SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING, TELL US YOU DON'T LIKE IT, AND IF YOU CAN GET FOUR VOTES, YOU CAN CHANGE IT. SO I MAYOR. I THOUGHT I NEEDED TO SAY THAT AND I'LL FALL ON MY SWORD. BUT I DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE THERE WAS ANY ULTERIOR MOTIVE OR I HAD SOMEONE HAD MY EAR BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THAT ALL DAY. AH, THEY DIDN'T.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT'S NOW TIME TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. WHAT ITEM FIVE C PUBLIC HEARING IS OPENED. TIMESTAMP 9 37. AND AS WE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, WE HAVE ADDED ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES TO THE PUBLIC HEARING TIME. AND INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. PLEASE COME FORWARD. HI MY NAME IS JASMINE JENSEN. I LIVE AT 7 11 OLYMPIA DRIVE. UM I HAVE GONE AROUND AND I HAVE PETITIONED MY NEIGHBORS IN THE SKY VIEW ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD. AND UH, I READ THIS PETITION TO MY NEIGHBORS. AND THIS IS WHAT IT READS. WE, THE UNDERSIGNED RESIDENTS OF THE SKY VIEW ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD, LOCATED IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE LAD PROPERTY WISH TO EXPRESS OUR FULL SUPPORT OF ZONING, THE LAD PROPERTY, A GREEN SPACE PRESERVATION DISTRICT. WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF ZONING CHANGE THAT IS DESIGNATED TO PROTECT THE PROPERTIES NATURAL FEATURES. THE CREEK AND THE PLANTS AND ANIMALS THAT LIVE THERE. AND ARE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO ANY ZONING DESIGNATION OR LAND USES THAT MIGHT ALLOW FOR HIGH IMPACT CONSTRUCTION OR DEVELOPMENT ON ANY PORTION OF THE PROPERTIES.

42 ACRES. I HAVE PETITIONED, ALSO PIN SPIRIT PEN SPRINGS ESTATES, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT ESCAPE VIEW. AH WE HAVE EXPRESSED THAT WE WANT A NATURE PRESERVE. WE DO NOT WANT A CONSERVATION OPEN SPACE DISTRICT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN, WITH ADDING AN EXTRA AGENDA ITEM THAT WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON. UM WE WANTED TO REMOVE. THE LAD PROPERTY OPPORTUNITY AREA EIGHT. FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND I FEEL A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT JUST ADDING NATURE PRESERVE AND NOT REMOVING CONSERVATION OPEN SPACE DISTRICT FROM THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT. UM AND I CAN GIVE YOU THESE PETITIONS. PASS THEM OVER, PLEASE. ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. ROBBIE ROBBINS. 343 SHOREWOOD. DR. I DID WANT TO SPEAK ON THE MATTER OF YOU KNOW , WE HAVE 17 PARTS. WE HAVE PARKS. WE HAVE BERMUDA GRASS, LITTLE LAWNS. THEY LOOK LIKE LAWNS. THEY'RE VERY NICE FOR THE KIDS TO PLAY IN THE PLAY SOCCER, ETCETERA. IT'S NOT A PLACE TO GO AND SEE NATURE. YOU MIGHT SEE A SQUIRREL TURTLE. YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A BEAVER. BLUE HERON.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY OF THAT OUT THERE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT AS STANDING IN NATURE PRESERVE. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PARKS, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE DO WITH THE NATURE PRESERVE.

THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MARK GRAHAM 14TH CENTER PICTURE. THANK YOU. IT WAS A GOOD EXPLANATIONS I COULD HAVE WISHED FOR. I WOKE A BIT, UH, 5 A.M. AND OPENED UP A AGENDA. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MATTER WHAT. I WANTED TO BLAME YOU GUYS. GUESS WHAT? I CAN'T BLAME YOU GUYS. IT

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WAS US. SO THANK YOU. THOMAS LACKEY, 18 18 SEABROOK. I WAS JUST I KNOW I CAN'T POSE A QUESTION, BUT YOU KNOW? MR HAGER WAS, YOU KNOW, WAVING AROUND THIS THING AND SAID HE TOOK ALL OF THIS FROM THAT REPORT THAT WE SUPPLIED AND I DON'T THINK I'M GETTING OLDER, SO I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY. ANY MENTION IN THAT REPORT THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT PERMITTED USES, SUCH AS OUTDOOR DISPLAYS WINDMILLS COMMUNITY CENTER PUBLIC. PUBLIC FACILITY USE AMUSEMENT PARK. RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL. I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S IN THERE. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S IN THIS ACCEPTABLE USE CHART. MARI VEGAS . 6 11 ORIOLE. UM I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY AND LOGIC. IT IS. REALLY BETTER SERVED WITH EVERYTHING IN PRINT, UH, SPELLED OUT LAID OUT AND THE ABILITY FOR TRUST TO KNOW THAT. VESTED INTEREST IS NOT, UM QUESTION. UM WE ALL LIVE. NOT ALL EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM LIVES IN THIS CITY. UM, SO THE INVESTMENT IS REALLY MOST THE SHAREHOLDERS WHO I THINK HAVE THE MOST VESTED INTEREST ARE THE ONES WHO LIVE HERE. AND WE WANTED NARROW, NOT BROAD. WHEN IT'S TOO BROAD. THAT'S WHERE THINGS GET NIBBLED AWAY AND THE ORIGINAL INTENT. OF PROTECTING THIS BEAUTIFUL GREEN OASIS. WILL GET LOST. BECAUSE.

THIS STUFF IS EXHAUSTING AND PEOPLE DO HAVE LIVES TO GO BACK TO UM WE WILL STAY TOGETHER.

PLEASE DON'T WATER THIS DOWN AND PLEASE DON'T REGRET SOMETHING PUTTING IN IN REWARDING OR IN LAW. SUCH THAT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HOLD YOUR HEADS UP BECAUSE WE WILL FEEL LIKE WE GOT WE GOT RUN DOWN IN RESOURCES ARE RUN DOWN IN LOGIC BY A MASTER LOGICIAN LOW, JUST LOGISTICIAN. I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING RIGHT. LAWYERS. GOD BLESS THEM. I KNOW EVERYONE HATES US. IT'S OKAY. THERE'S NOTHING HATES OR THERE'S NO HATE. THERE'S JUST I'M I'M NOT IN THAT GAME. I AM ONE AND I HATE HIM. SO YEAH. I WANT YOU TO LOVE YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, BUT I ADMITTEDLY I'M NOT GONNA CALL A POINT OF ORDER ON HER ATTORNEY. HE'S NOT PERMITTED TO SPEAK DURING THIS RIGHT NOW.

SO MR HAGAR, YOU MAY KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF AT THIS MOMENT. ERICA BROWNING FOR FOUR TO EAST CHERRY STREET. I AM IN FAVOR OF. THIS AGENDA ITEM, HOWEVER. WITH CHANGES. I THINK MANY OF THOSE USES NEED TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT WHAT WE WANTED COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL. I THINK, WINDMILL. NO WAY. SO I JUST WANT THAT TO BE KNOWN THAT WE'RE NOT BACKING AWAY FROM THIS AND SAYING NO, LET'S JUST FORGET THE WHOLE THING. WE JUST NEED SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO HASH OUT. THANK YOU. EMILY BRIDGES FOR 18 OLEANDER. I AM GOING TO MIMIC WHAT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID IS IF I'M NOT A CITY STAFFER, BUT IF YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF SIDES, IT SHOWS COLLEGE ON THEIR SCHOOL. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ENVISIONED WHEN WE SPEAK OF AN EDUCATION AREA. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TREE STUMPS IN A CIRCLE OUT THERE AND ALLOWING KIDS TO HAVE MAGNIFYING GLASSES LOOKING FOR BABY FROGS, YOU KNOW, CHECKING OUT A LITTLE BIT OF NATURE WHILE THEY'RE OUT THERE, SO THERE ARE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT I THINK NEEDS TO CHANGE OR NEED TO BE STRICKEN FROM THIS AND TO CHOP IT DOWN TO CHILDLIKE LANGUAGE WITH MY CHILDREN WHEN THEY ASK FOR A PIECE OF CANDY, I SAY NO, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A PIECE OF CANDY. I DON'T SAY I DON'T INTEND FOR YOU TO NOT HAVE A PIECE OF CANDY CANDY, SO I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU.

SHANNON ROBERTS, 96 ROCK CANYON . I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IF WE'RE INTO THE FOUR OR AGAINST AT THIS POINT, SO WE'RE IN THE FOUR. OKAY I'M I'M FOR WITH THE AMENDMENTS. BASICALLY WHAT? MY

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UH, MY PARTNERS IN CRIME HAVE SAID HERE. UM, BUT I'VE BEEN A CITIZEN ON THIS RIDE FOR SINCE THE BEGINNING WITH THE ATTENTIONS AND WE STARTED. IT WAS SO MUCH HOPE AND EXCITEMENT AND AGAIN. I WANT TO THANK YOU, UM, MR HAGAR FOR THE EXPLANATION. BECAUSE UM, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WENT. I WILL OWN IT. IT WAS WHAT'S GOING ON, AND IT VERY MUCH WAS ABOUT. THIS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. A SCHOOL. AND A COLLEGE SCHOOL. AND BY RIGHT, LIKE NOBODY EVEN HAD TO ASK ANYBODY. IT WAS JUST THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE THERE , REGARDLESS, AND THAT WAS NOT.

THAT IS NOT OUR INTENTION. UM AND IN THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT AND PROPOSAL IN THE IN THE TEXT LANGUAGE THAT THAT WE PROVIDED IT REALLY IS OUR VISION AND WE WENT WITH PICTURES. BECAUSE PICTURES SPEAK 1000 WORDS. UM AND SO, UM, BUT IT OUTLINES OUR DESIRE IS TO KEEP THE LAND AS IS WITH WALKING PAST MINIMAL LOW IMPACT STRUCTURES AND AGAIN, SO THE SOME SOME PEBBLES AND THE TREE STUMPS AND MAYBE WE'VE ENVISIONED IN THAT PACKAGE YOU'LL SEE BEAUTIFUL OPEN AIR MULTIPURPOSE. TYPE FACILITIES THAT COULD BE USED BY SCOUTS. UH BUT ANY KIND OF GROUP, A TEACHER GROUP, A HOMESCHOOL GROUP, CITY COUNCIL. ANY OF THOSE THINGS? UM AND ALSO WHAT WAS PROPOSED, AND THEN IT SAYS TWO CATEGORIES THAT MAKE THE MOST SENSE OR EDUCATIONAL, INSTITUTIONAL PUBLIC SPECIAL USES AND RECREATE RECREATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ENVISIONED.

WE SAID NATURE PRESERVE. WE MEAN NATURE PRESERVE. UM AND SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR CLARIFYING THE CONFUSION. UM AS I SAID, WE I STARTED. I THINK WE ALL STARTED THIS WITH SO MUCH HOPE AND EXCITEMENT. AND IT WAS BEING DEFLATED. I FEEL IT COMING BACK AGAIN. AND REALLY, UM FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER WITH YOU, AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST CONTINUED TRANSPARENCY. THIS KIND OF SHARING IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO TO WORK TOGETHER, AND, UM SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH TRUST AND CONFIDENCE. AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. BRIAN THORNHILL 402 MEADOWLARK LION. JUST LIFT THE MICROPHONE. JUST UP. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU LIVE IN THE SWAN RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS LOCATED DIRECTLY EAST OF THE LAB PROPERTY, AND I JUST HAVE A STACK OF SIGNATURES HERE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO WANTS TO SEE THE PROPERTY REZONED INTO A GREEN SPACE. THANK YOU. HOW MUCH TIME WAS LEFT IN THE FOUR. ANYONE ELSE IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NON WILL MOVE TO ANY INDIVIDUALS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM. PLEASE COME FORWARD. STAN SMITH WON 11 EAST DAVIS STREET. DUNCANVILLE, TEXAS. 75116. JUST KIND OF HAVE A QUESTION, AND THAT IS FROM HERE IN THIS GENTLEMAN. EARLIER, HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT Y'ALL HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO FUND THIS. THERE'S A CITY GOING TO RETAIN OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL OF THIS. IS THAT A YES? OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE. THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. ANY REBUTTAL. ERICA BROWNING FOR FOUR TO EAST CHERRY STREET REGARDING THAT LAST COMMENT THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE WANT TO TIGHTEN THIS UP AND MAKE IT AS IRONCLAD AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN REBUTTAL? CHAIR LIEUTENANT MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MOVE. SECOND . EMOTIONAL CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING BY MR MCBURNETT SECONDED BY MS GOODEN. PLEASE VOTE. MR CONTRERAS IS AFFIRMATIVE. IT'S CHERRY. ABSTAIN. THANK YOU.

MOTION IS APPROVED. TIME STAMP FOR CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING IS 9 51. SYTEMS NO FOR

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DISCUSSION FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MR COUNTS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I. I'LL MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND THEN I'LL TAKE A BREAK. BUT I DO WANT TO PROVIDE SOME JUST SOME BACKGROUND TO THIS ITEM. AND 2021. THERE WAS A COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WAS PROPOSED TO GATHER INPUT ABOUT THE LAD PROPERTY. AND GREEN SPACES IN GENERAL. AND THAT COMMUNITY SURVEY DID NOT MATERIALIZE FOR VARIOUS REASONS. HOWEVER. THE PUBLIC INTEREST BEGAN TO GROW SURROUNDING THE POSSIBILITIES OF DESIGNATING THE PROPERTY. A NATURE PRESERVE. AND SO THIS PUBLIC INTEREST, OF COURSE, MANIFEST ITSELF IN COUNTLESS. CITIZEN COMMENTS AND EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS WHERE WE SAT THROUGH HOURS OF CITIZEN COMMENTS. ALL OF THEM WITH ONE BOTTOM LINE. WE WANT A NATURE PRESERVE. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PROPERTY DESIGNATED AS A NATURE PRESERVE WAS WAS THE BOTTOM LINE TO ALL THAT? AND IT WAS COUNTLESS AH! THE CITIZENS, OF COURSE, PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL A PETITION OF OVER 1800 SIGNATURES ON THAT PETITION. THE BOTTOM LINE WAS. WE WOULD LIKE A NATURE PRESERVE ON THE LAB, PROPERTY AND NATURE PRESERVE. THERE WERE MULTIPLE TOWN HALLS.

AND THE OVERWHELMING LANGUAGE WAS VERY SPECIFIC. WE WANT A NATURE PRESERVE AT THE TOWN HALLS AND MIND YOU THESE WEREN'T ALL THE SAME PEOPLE WHEN WE WERE SITTING THROUGH ALL THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND THERE WERE COMMENTS. IT WAS A DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE ALMOST EVERY TIME WENT OUT. ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN OF Y'ALL WERE HERE EVERY TIME. BUT GENERALLY IT WAS A DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE IN THE TOWN HALLS WERE ALMOST A DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE EVERY TIME, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE WAS ALWAYS A NATURE. PRESERVED AND AS A MAYOR STATED EARLIER THIS COUNCIL BACK IN DECEMBER, 2022. WE STATED THAT WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER AN ORDINANCE AND IT WASN'T JUST DELIVER AN ORDINANCE . WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER AN ORDINANCE FOR A NATURE PRESERVE THAT WAS IN THE LANGUAGE, AND IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND GUESS WHAT? IT WAS UNANIMOUS FROM THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WANT A NATURE PRESERVE, AND SO WE CAN SEE THE BOTTOM LINE HERE . UM AGAIN. I'VE GOT I'VE GOT MORE COMMENTS, BUT OH, YOU THE FLOOR IN CASE SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK. ANY COMMENTS? YES. COMMENTS. YES, THAT'S TRUE. COUNCIL MEMBER GOOD. THANK YOU. MAYOR NEY. COULD WE SEE THE SLIDES AGAIN? I JUST NEED CLARIFICATION. UM, THERE'S ONE RIGHT BEFORE THIS ONE. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT PAGE IT WAS. GO BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. BAD. SO WHEN I SEE LAND USED THEN. C I C M S G M IS U L AND THEN SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL SO THESE ARE THE THREE DOWN DUNCANVILLE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, UH, CENTRAL MAIN STREET, GENERAL, MAIN STREET, URBAN LIVING, AND THEN THE FINAL. UH, ZONING DESIGNATION IS NATURE PRESERVE. OKAY. AND NATURE PRESERVE IS THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW. THAT'S THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU JUST WANT TO CLARITY. QUESTION FOR MR CITY ATTORNEY FROM ME, PLEASE. LOOKING AT. OKAY. THE SLIDE THAT WAS UP BEFORE ACTUALLY SHOWED. THE LAND USES, WHICH IS ON 3.03 OF THE ORDINANCE AND PAGE THREE OR FIVE. AND THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS BEING MADE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU INSERTED THERE FROM THE MINDSET C O D. BUT I TOOK THE COMMENTS THAT YOU WANT THAT CHANGED. OKAY SO OR WE CAN DO C O D SLASH NATURE PRESERVE. ALL RIGHT, SO WELL, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING. THIS DISTRICT MAYBE EXTEND BEYOND THE LAD PROPERTY. YOU'RE GONNA ZONE THE LAD PROPERTY TONIGHT. IT'S ON THE AGENDA. BUT THIS THIS ORDINANCE APPLIES TO OTHER THINGS THAN JUST THE LAD PROPERTY. DID. OKAY, SO YOU UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE ANOTHER AREA OF TOWN WHERE YOU WANT TO CONSERVATION DISTRICT. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING. YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THE USES ON THE PROPERTY . IF YOU'VE READ THE ORDINANCE, IT'S GONNA SAY WHAT GOES ON IN THE LAD PROPERTY WHEN YOU PASS THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE LEAD PROBLEM. BUT IT DISTRICT HAS MORE TO DO WITH IN JUST THE LAD PROPERTY. YOU'RE GONNA PUT A NATURE PRESERVE AND THIS TRACK OF LAND, BUT THE DISTRICT IS

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CONSERVATION DISTRICT, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THE LAD PROPERTY AS A GENERAL. IT'S NOT THE LAD PROPERTY. GOTTA THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. IT'S JUST THE LAND PROPERTY. THE LAD PROPERTY IS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA. I GOT TO CREATE A DISTRICT WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO PUT ZONING ON THE LEAD PROBLEM. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT. SO, MR CITY ATTORNEY. I'M LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCES WRITTEN ON SECTION 3.04 H. AND IT HAS CONSERVATION USES. AND I THINK THIS MAY APPLY TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ARE IN THE CITY IN THE CITIZENS RIGHT NOW, THE LAND USES APPLY NOT JUST TO THE LEAD PROPERTY, BUT THEN WE GO TO THIS PARTICULAR SUB PARAGRAPH H CONSERVATION USES. AND THEN THERE'S NINE CONSERVATION USES LISTED HERE. OPEN SPACE PATH TRAILS, PASSIVE SIGNAGE MAINTENANCE, LOW IMPACT BUFFERING PARKING BOUNDARY FENCING DESIGNATION OF HOURS OF OPERATION SO DOES. THE COMBINATION OF THE LAND USES, EVEN THOUGH UNDERSTANDING THAT DOES THE PLACE OF THE ENTIRE CITY. DOES THESE DO THESE CONSERVATION USES AS IDENTIFIED HERE? THESE NINE USES ASSIST IN THE. ASSIST THE STAFF IN LATER CITY COUNCILS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE LAND CAN BE USED FOR, BECAUSE THESE DOES THESE NINE PRETTY WELL TIE IT DOWN TO A CONSERVATION USE TEXT OVERRIDE THE CHART. DID YOU SAY AGAIN, PLEASE CODE CONSTRUCTION. THE TEXT OVERRIDES THE CHART. OKAY. WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY ASKING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND MOVING DOWN TO ITEM SEE WHERE IT DEFINES THE CONSERVATION AREA.

AH ENVIRONMENTAL, YOU KNOW, LIST MANY DIFFERENT PIECES OF THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT THERE. IS THERE SOME I'M GONNA ASK YOU ACTUALLY, MR COATES HERE AND ITEMS. SEE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSERVATION AREA SLASH ENVIRONMENTAL AND HAS A LITANY OF USES OF THE LAND FOR CONSERVATION AREA. DO ANY OF YOUR THOUGHTS PERTAINED TO MANY CHANGES IN THIS PARTICULAR LANGUAGE HERE? I WOULD SAVE MY COMMENTS. WHEN I MAKE MY COMMENTS. YOU CAN KEEP TALKING.

I WILL TURN TO MR MCBURNETT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MR CITY ATTORNEY. I'M TRYING NOT TO GET TOO FAR AHEAD ON THIS, BUT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU SAYING IS WHEN WE MAKE THIS DESIGNATION, IT'S GOING TO BE A CITY. WHY'D APPLICABLE. IT'S OWN DISTRICT, AND IT HAS APPLICATION NOT ONLY TO THE LEAD TRACK, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE APPLICATION TO OTHER TRACTS OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY. SO . WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT? IF IT GOES LIKE THIS, THEN THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE LAD PROPERTY ITSELF CAN WE RESTRICT THAT? I WOULD HOPE SO. OKAY THANK YOU. HAVING SAID THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING ON THIS LIST AND THIS LIST THAT'S UP ON THE CHART. NOW THAT YOU DON'T WANT IN CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, PLEASE TAKE IT OUT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT AND THE CITIZENS GET CRAZY. AND SO THAT'S PART OF MY I THINK IT'S PART OF THE MAYOR'S QUESTION TO MR COONS. IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE OUT OF HERE? THAT MAKES MEETS YOUR YOUR GOAL IN YOUR CONCERNS. WHAT'S ADDRESS IT NOW , SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN WE MAKE A MOTION WHAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON. YES. UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT. COUNCILOR GOOD AND HAD A QUESTION FOR COUNCIL MEMBER CONTRERAS HAS HIS HAND UP TOO SORRY. YES, UM LET ME TAKE MR CONTRERAS BECAUSE YOU. OKAY, MR CONTRERAS. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. BEEN SITTING FOR A WHILE. YOU MAKE IT. INTO THE JAR. THE TEXT OVERRIDE. THE CHART. RIGHT? SO IF THE OBJECTIVE. AS ONE THAT WAS PUT IN HERE WAS EVIDENCE.

FOR IN THE UNDER CONSERVATION AREAS. RECOMMENDATIONS THAT SPECIFIC TO THE LAND PROPERLY.

SAYS THIS CHART IS KNOWN AVOID. IT DOESN'T REPLY. NO NONSENSE HOW YOU DO IT, BUT WHAT YOU YOU OTHER USES, SO YOU LEAVE IT IN THERE FOR OTHER USES BECAUSE SOMEONE MAY WANT TO PUT AN AMPHITHEATER AND ONE OF THEM AND IF YOU DON'T DO IT, THEN YOU GOTTA GO BACK AND GO THROUGH

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THIS WHOLE. THING AGAIN. AND TRYING TO AVOID THAT. BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THAT MAKES EVERYONE NUTS, LET'S TAKE IT OUT. OKAY, SO. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO PROVIDE FOR SOMETHING IN THE CHART TO SHOW WHAT THE USES ARE. FOR THE NATURE PRESERVE. BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT GO ON IN THE NATURE PRESERVE THEIR IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE TRAILS THAT ARE BEING MAINTAINED . THERE ARE THINGS THAT GO ON IN THE NATURE PRESERVE. I WOULD SAY. TRUST ME, BUT YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO TRUST ME. BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT GO ON. THERE MAY BE GRADING YOU. THERE'S GOT TO BE A PARKING LOT ON THAT PROPERTY SOMEWHERE. THERE'S GOING TO BE PROPER AN AREA FOR THIS FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO PARK THEIR VEHICLE TO GET OUT AND ENJOYING NATURE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PARK ON THE STREET AND HIKE IN. SO THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE AND THINGS MAINTAINED IN ORDER TO KEEP IT FROM BEING. DESTROYED BECAUSE OF THE WHAT'S AROUND IT. THERE'S DRAINAGE, THERE'S UPSTREAM DEVELOPMENT. IN THE CREEK NEEDS CLEANED. WE MAY HAVE TO PUT A CATCH. AH BASIN ON CULVERT SOMEWHERE. THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE TO KEEP IT FROM TWO TEARY AERATING BECAUSE OF UPSTREAM DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT. SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO GO ON THERE, SOMETHING'S GOT TO GO ON THERE OR IT WILL DETERIORATE. YOU CAN CHANGE THIS ANYWAY THAT YOU CAN GET FOUR VOTES TO CHANGE IT. THAT'S WHY I WROTE IT THIS WAY BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT HAD THIS DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC. OKAY, WE'RE DOWN. WE ARE DOWN TO THE NIT PICKING GORY, UGLY DETAILS OF WRITING WHAT YOU ALL WANT. AND IT'S NOT PRETTY.

IT'S NOT. IT'S WHEN YOU GO HAVE SURGERY. YOU ALL WANT IT. BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT. YOU ALL WANT TO SAUSAGE BUT BY GOD, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE BEING MADE. WELL, NOW YOU GET TO SEE IT BEING MADE. THIS IS WHAT IT'S LIKE. SO I WE NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WROTE THIS AS BROAD AS WE CAN. SO YOU CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION SO THAT WE IF THEY APPROVE THIS, THEY GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT. LEAVES THE DOOR OPEN. WON'T BE ACCEPTABLE. TO WHAT I'M HEARING. SUPPORTERS OF THE PRESERVE. DON'T ACCEPT. SO HAVING SAID THAT I'M GONNA WAIT UNTIL INDUSTRY PERKINS. OKAY REMARKS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HE'S . ABSOLUTELY SOME OF HIS OWN.

AND THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO HAVE I WANT YOU TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION SO THAT WE GIVE YOU WHAT YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING FOR THIS VERY REASON. YEP. AND I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO MR COONS. BUT I WANT TO MAKE ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT BECAUSE BACK TO WHAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS SAYING. B C AND D ARE DEALING IN THE MACRO. APPLYING VIRTUALLY TO THE CITY.

ITEM E. WHEN WE GET TO. IT IS SO SPECIFIC. THAT'S WHERE WE DRILL DOWN RIGHT TO THE LAD PROPERTY BECAUSE IT SPECIFIES THE 44 TO 42.419 ACRES, AND IT'S UNTIL THAT POINT, WE'RE STILL DEALING IT LIKE THE 50,000 FT LEVEL IN THE MACRO FOR DEALING WITH THE ENTIRE CITY. WE WILL GET TO THAT PARTICULAR POINT IN ITEM FIVE E , WHERE WE DEFINE NATURE PRESERVE AS THE 42.419 ACRES OF THE LAND PROPERTY ITSELF. SO WHAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS HERE. LET'S DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AND B, C AND D KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THE E AND WE'RE GOING TO TIE THIS PUPPY RIGHT DOWN. WE'RE GOING TO TIE THE BOW ON IT WHEN WE GET TO E.

AND UNDERSTANDING THOSE PARTICULAR PIECES. NOW THERE ARE THERE ARE THE COMMENTS BEING MADE HAVE MERIT ABOUT LOOKING AT . DO YOU WANT A RETAIL? DO YOU WANT RECREATIONAL? DO YOU WANT EDUCATION ON THE PROPERTY NOTE ON THE CHART THAT THOSE ARE REQUIRED BY SPECIAL USE. THEY'RE NOT GIVEN, THEREBY RIGHT. BUT SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY. THERE MAY BE SOME LAND WHERE THIS PARTICULAR ASPECT OF THIS CHART COULD APPLY. AND IF WE DIDN'T IF WE ELIMINATE THOSE POSSIBILITIES TODAY, WE MAY BE SORRY IN THE FUTURE. BECAUSE WE KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING. WE KNOW WHAT'S COMING IN FIVE E. AND NO ONE WAS COMING IN FIVE. LET'S WORK TOWARDS GETTING THAT POINT IS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE

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ORDINANCE ON C AND I GLOSSED OVER BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO WASTE TIME READING, BUT I'LL READ IT SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS CONSERVATION AREA. THIS IS IN THE ITEM WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW.

STILL DEALING IN THE MACRO. EXCUSE ME. CONSERVATION AREA. COM COMMA ENVIRONMENTAL SHALL MEAN LAND AREA OF REAL PROPERTY AND ITS NATURAL STATE, CONSERVING OR PROTECTING NATURAL RESOURCES AND SLASH OR ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, WITH PROTECT QUALITY OR QUANTITY OF GROUNDWATER, SURFACE WATER, FISHERIES, VEGETATIVE COMMUNITY OR WILDLIFE HABITATS, MINERALS WITH NATURAL HISTORICAL OR AESTHETIC SIGNIFICANCE. THAT'S IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW. IS THIS CHART GOING TO OVERRIDE THIS PARTICULAR ASPECT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DELINEATE HERE? THE ANSWER IS NO. IT'S STILL GONNA BE THERE. IT'S STILL GONNA BE TYING THE BOW ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE. SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO MR COHEN'S. SO FIRST OF ALL, THERE WERE THREE SET. THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS THAT WERE GIVEN TO THE CITY SECRETARY. THAT I THINK PERTAIN TO THIS. CAN WE CLOSER. THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS THAT YOU WERE HANDED. I THINK THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO COME TO US. THE SIGNATURES. YES. OKAY. I THINK THAT WAS FOR US. CAN WE GET? LET ME ADD ONE THING HERE. THOSE WERE CALLED PETITIONS. THEY'RE NOT PETITIONS. IN THE STRICT LEGAL SENSE OF THE TERM WHAT THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE PROVIDED US TO SURVEYS. AND AS SURVEYS. I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS NECESSARY FOR US TO BE HANDED PIECES OF PAPER SHOWING SURVEYS OF PEOPLE THAT LOVE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE LAB PROPERTY. YOU WANT THEM FINE. BUT THESE ARE NOT PETITIONS AND THAT WAS MIS WORDED IN TERMS OF WHAT IT IS. IT'S A SURVEY OF INDIVIDUALS. WE ACCEPT THE SURVEYS AND PRESUMABLY EVERY SINGLE CERTAIN , UH, SIGNATURE ON THERE SAYS YES. PLEASE DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE LADS. OKAY YOU WANT THE PIECES OF PAPER? YOU'RE WELCOME TO HIM. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT CITIZENS REFERRED TO AS A PETITION, PLEASE.

MIKE. SO CITY ATTORNEY IF YEAH, IF WE WANTED TO IF WE WANTED TO BUILD A SCHOOL IF WE WANTED UH, TO USE A PIECE OF LAND TO BUILD A SCHOOL ON IT. DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT USE EXISTING IN OUR IN OUR ORDINANCE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BUILD A SCHOOL. I DON'T KNOW IF I UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE TO COMPLY WITH LOCAL ZONING ORDINANCE AT ALL. WELL. HE SAYS. SCHOOL COLLEGE HERE SO WELL, WE HAVE ZONING THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO BUILD A SCHOOL ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY. I'LL SAY YES. FOR THE PURPOSES OF ARGUMENT. WHAT WE HAVE ZONING THAT ALLOWS FOR RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL. NOT IN THAT DISTRICT. WHAT, BUT I MEAN, IT'S IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE. TO WHERE IF YOU WANTED TO REZONE A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO RETAIL THERE'S ONLY EXISTS TO DO THAT. YEAH, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS OF TOWN WHERE THE ZONING ORDINANCE APPLIES. OF COURSE, OKAY. SO YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM TO PUT A STORE ON THE LAB PROPERTY, FOR EXAMPLE. AND YOU DIDN'T PROVIDE FOR A RETAIL YOU SHE COULDN'T AND I THINK THAT'S THE POINT. YOU WANTED TO SELL B KITS AND SNAIL DIRT, ER, MAGNIFYING GLASSES, FISHHOOKS SO YOU CAN FISH IN THE CREEK. YOU COULDN'T DO THAT WITHOUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE, SO I THINK THAT'S THE POINT IS THAT THEY DON'T WE'RE NOT WANTING TO DO THAT. SO AH, OKAY, THE TWO THE TWO ITEMS WE HAVE IN THE STAFF REPORT. ESTABLISH A NEW. LAND USE RIGHT WITH THE DEFINITION. RIGHT ESTABLISHED. WELL RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST ABOUT THE USE. NOT ABOUT THE DISTRICT THAT THAT COMES LATER, RIGHT, SO THE ITEM IS TO ESTABLISH A NEW LAND USE AND DEFINITION BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO WITH A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS NOT ALLOWED FOR AND OUR CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE CORRECT. FOR THAT NEW DISTRICT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE NEWLY CREATED DISTRICT. OKAY, SO WE HAVE TO CREATE IT SHOWS IS THAT YOU HAVE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT OR USES THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED OR ALLOWED

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EVEN MR WARREN SAID. SOME THINGS HAVE BEEN CHANGED. HELP WHAT MR WARREN SAID. I ONLY KNOW WHAT I SAID. SO I DON'T WANT ANYTHING ATTRIBUTED TO ME THAT I DIDN'T SAY AND WHAT I SAID WAS, I TRIED TO INTERPRET WHAT I WAS GIVEN. I DIDN'T SAY I CHANGED IT. I DIDN'T TAKING LIBERTIES WITH ANYTHING. I TRIED TO PERFORM IN A MANNER IN WHICH YOU HAD EXPECTATIONS. IF I DIDN'T MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS ONE I APOLOGIZE TO. I'M SORRY. BUT THERE'S NOTHING NEFARIOUS ABOUT THIS. SO IF YOU WANT ME TO, AND 2.05 OF THE ORDINANCE TO CHANGE THE WORLD CONSERVATION OPEN DISTRICT TO NATURE PRESERVE, I'M FINE WITH THAT. IF YOU WANT THIS CHART CHANGE TO TAKE ANYTHING OUT OF SECTION TWO. AND IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T CARE. MY JOB IS TO DO WHAT THE FOUR OF YOU TELL ME.

YOU WANT DONE AND TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE CORRECTLY, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO. AND I'M GOING TO DO IT TONIGHT AS I'VE DONE FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS. THIS ISN'T ABOUT ME. IT'S ABOUT Y'ALL. I THINK IT WOULD TAKE TIME TO LOOK AT SECTION 2.05. HAS WRITTEN BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. THEY WERE PROBABLY PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION. I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR COHEN'S OBJECTIONS ARE. BUT TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT'S WRITTEN IN BEFORE US WE CANNOT TAKE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO BACKWARDS. WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. AND LOOKING AT 2.05 HAS HIS WRITTEN THERE'S CONSERVATION OPEN DISTRICT TO PROVIDE PUBLIC OR PRIVATELY OWNED REAL PROPERTY FOR PERMANENT PERMANENT OPEN SPACE FOR PRESERVATION PURPOSES AND REQUIRE LIMITATIONS ARE FAIRLY OBLIGATIONS DESIGNED TO PROTECT NATURAL SCENIC OR OPEN SPACE, INCLUDING PASSIVE RECREATION WHILE I HAVE IT ECOLOGICAL GEOLOGICAL, AND THIS GOES ON AND ON AND ON, AND THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE, NOT TO SAY THAT MR HAGER, OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO LIBERTIES TO INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION. THAT IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT WE WANT IN THERE IN TERMS OF SPECIFYING WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE USED IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR ZONE. IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, AND IT GOES ON IN SUB PARAGRAPH TO ANY SUCH DESIGNATION YOU SELF PROVIDE FOR THE DEVELOPMENTAL REGULATION WITH SHALL ADDRESS THE FOLLOWING AND EVERY PIECE IN THAT FROM A THROUGH M. IS AFFIRMATIVE IN TERMS OF DOING THE BEST THING FOR THE NATURE PRESERVE ON THE LAB PROPERTY.

THE HITCH IS COMING IN. IN 3.03. AND IF 3.03 IS OBJECTIONABLE TO THIS ENTIRE COUNCIL TAKE OUT OF 3.03 WHAT IS OBJECTIONABLE AND LET'S BE ABLE TO MOVE ON. COUNCIL MEMBER BACKWARD IN TERMS OF WHAT LOOKING ONLY WITH PN ZAPPROVED WE HAVE BEFORE US AS A COUNCIL, THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE LAW THAT IS AN ORDINANCE WE ARE MAKING LAW TONIGHT. MR CONTRERAS. MR CONTRERAS. WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS NOT TAKING THIS FORWARD. I THINK IT'S CLEAR AT THIS POINT. A FEW THAT CHART PAGE 71 IN THERE. BELIEVES IN THE FUTURE AND OPPORTUNITY. ESPECIALLY YOU SUPERVISION. THE SCHOOL. WE WERE WITH THIS AND CUT IT SIMPLE. WE JUST GOT DELETE THIS CHARGE. FUTURE.

DESERVES A DUNKING BOOTH BEING AFFECTED BY US ELIMINATING THIS CHART. HOPE WE GET A CONSENSUS TO REMOVE THE JAR. ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT THE CHART THAT THE CHART THAT'S UP NOW? YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME CHURCH BECAUSE YOU GOT TO ACCOUNT FOR THE USE. AND THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST CHART THAT WE SAW. WHERE THE USES A NATURE PRESERVE. YOU WANT THAT? THAT'S THE CHART WE WANT RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT, AND YOU DON'T WANT THE CHURCH THAT'S ON. ARTICLE. THREE PERMITTED USE CHURCH 0.03 EDUCATION FACILITY. CORRECT. CORRECT. SO YOU WANT NONE OF THAT. CORRECT AND THE ONLY THING YOU WANT IS THE 303 THAT NATHAN PUT UP. CORRECT. OKAY? AND YOU WANT TO CHANGE CONSERVATION OPEN SPACE TO MAKE NATURE PRESERVE. WHAT ABOUT 304? WHERE WE HAVE CONSERVATION USES

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OPEN SPACE TRAILS, PASSIVE SIGNAGE, MAINTENANCE, LOW IMPACT FENCING AND NINE PEDESTRIAN AREAS. THOSE NINE ITEMS. AND THAT'S FINE. SO. AT SOME POINT IN TIME. WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THESE ITEMS. BUT THE DEFINITION I WANT TO CHANGE ON NATURE PRESERVE. AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS. THE CHANGES THAT I PROPOSED. READ THAT MR COHEN'S PLACE. I DON'T KNOW. IF IT DID WE EVER GET IT. IT IS AN AREA DESIGNATED TO REMAIN IN A NATURAL OR DEVELOPS UNDEVELOPED STATE FOR THE PROTECTION OF NATIVE WILDLIFE PLANT HABITAT AND NATURAL RESOURCES AND TO PROVIDE FOR PASSIVE RECREATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION. THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL IN YOU HAVE TWO DEFINITIONS. JEREMY IS THAT THE OTHER ONE THAT YOU'RE WANTING? THAT'S THE OTHER IF THEY CAN GET IT, JUST I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO SEE IT PROVIDE PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY OWNED PARCELS FOR PERMANENT OPEN SPACE FOR PRESERVATION PURPOSES. INCLUDING PASSIVE RECREATION, WILDLIFE HABITAT ECOLOGICAL. GEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, WATER QUALITY PROTECTION. SCIENCE EDUCATION, NATURE OBSERVATION, CONTINUITY OF AESTHETIC, OPEN SPACE AND NATURAL AREA BUFFERING. NOT SURE WHAT. I'M SORRY. YOU TALKING TO ME AS YOURS, MR KOONTZ? YEAH THE QUESTIONS ARE BEING POSED TO DEFINITIONS. JUST READ THE DEFINITION. ONE WILL DO IT. HE HE READ CONDITION PROPOSED A DEFINITION. WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT UP ON THE SCREEN SO PEOPLE CAN SEE IT. JUST FOR INFORMATION TO THE CITIZENS. US. WE N COUNCIL HAVE ALL THE AMENDMENTS THAT MR COONS HAS PROVIDED WE HAVE IT IN HARD COPY. AND SO IT WOULD BE THE DEFINITION THAT I PROPOSED, MR HAGAR OF NATURE PRESERVE. WOULD REPLACE THIS OF CONSERVATION CONSERVATION AREA ENVIRONMENTAL YEAH. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. IS IT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT DEFINITION UP? IT'S NOT. I'LL READ IT AND I'LL READ IT SLOWLY FOR THE INFORMATION OF ALL THE CITIZENS HERE. SORRY. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THIS IS THE CHANGE THAT MR COONS HAS ASKED FOR. IN TERMS OF CHANGING THE DEFINITION. FOR NATURE PRESERVED. AND AREA DESIGNATED TO REMAIN IN A NATURAL OR UNDEVELOPED STATE.

FURTHER PROTECTION OF NATIVE WILDLIFE. PLANT HABITAT AND NATURAL RESOURCES AND TO PROVIDE FOR PASSIVE RECREATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION. THAT IS THE EDITED CHANGE THAT MR KOONTZ IS ASKING. TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION FOR NATURE PRESERVE. I'LL READ IT ONE MORE TIME. AN AREA DESIGNATED TO REMAIN IN A NATURAL OR UNDEVELOPED STATE. FOR THE PROTECTION OF NATIVE WILDLIFE PLANT HABITAT AND NATURAL RESOURCES AND TO PROVIDE FOR PASSIVE RECREATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION. AND MR HAGAR HAS ASKED MR COONS IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. AND MR COHEN SAYS, REPLIED POSITIVITY AFFIRMATIVELY TO THAT. I UNDERSTAND. YES, SIR. YES, OKAY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF THE CHURCH. RIGHT? IF THERE IS, IF THERE IS CONSENSUS AMONG THE ENTIRE COUNCIL TO GET RID OF THAT THOSE CHARTS CAN MAKE EMOTIONS TO TRYING TO FILE AN AMENDED ALL THAT KIND OF CRAZY STUFF. PRETTY COMPOUND MOTION. I KNOW THEY'D BE EASIER JUST TO SAY, AMEND BY REMOVING THE CHART AND CHANGES DEFINITION AND NATURAL PRESERVE IS READING THE RECORD. SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE SLOWLY SO THAT THAT ESSENTIALLY WILL BECOME THE MOTION BEFORE US TO MODE ON. WHAT'S THE ORDINANCE NUMBER? MADAM SECRETARY? 2485. MOTION SHOULD COME BEFORE THE BODY TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2485 WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS TO CHANGE

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THE DEFINITION OF CONSERVATION AREA DISTRICT IN NATURE PRESERVE IS THAT'S READ BY THE MAYOR AND MYSELF. TO LEAVE. THE ITEMS A THROUGH M AND SUBPART TWO OF SECTION ONE OF THE ORDINANCE.

AND TO REMOVE THE LAND USES CHART THAT'S IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO THAT THAT WAS DISPLAYED AND MADE BY RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION. SECOND. SO I HAD SOME COMMENTS, BUT WELL, YOU CAN ADD. YOU KNOW THERE'S A MOTION ON HOLD IT. HOLD IT. HOLD IT! TIME OUT, TIME OUT. I HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND I'VE USED IT BEFORE WE CAN HAVE A MOTION. WE CAN HAVE A SECOND AND WE CAN STILL HAVE DISCUSSION. I'M NOT GOING TO PRECLUDE DISCUSSIONS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. SO WE HAVE A MOTION MADE TO APPROVE THE MOTION BY MR VERA CRUZ. WE HAVE A SECOND BY NOT SURE WHERE IT CAME FROM OVER HERE. VOLUME COUNCIL MEMBER GOODEN SO BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION, SINCE MR COONS HAS ADDITIONAL COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MR COATES. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT I UNDERSTAND THE MISTAKE CITY ATTORNEY MADE AND I FORGIVE YOU, BY THE WAY. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO DEVELOPED THIS DOCUMENT AREN'T MISREPRESENTED AND WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS WERE, BECAUSE IF YOU READ THE DOCUMENT INSTEAD OF JUST LOOK AT THE PICTURES, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS THE FOCUS IS ABOUT CONSERVATION. IT IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE LAND. IT IS ABOUT EDUCATION THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AND AS FAR AS THE AH! THE. SO THERE IT MENTIONS ON NATURE AND EDUCATION CENTER. AND AH! I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE JUST TAKEN THAT AND RUN WITH IT TO THINK WELL, THAT THAT COULD MEAN WE COULD BUILD JUST ABOUT ANYTHING PERTAINING TO EDUCATION, BUT I WANT TO READ WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT THE NATURE AND EDUCATION CENTER. IT SAYS A LIVING, LOW IMPACT, MULTI USE STRUCTURE. AH, THE CENTER WHICH WOULD BE REGENERATIVE. MEANING THAT IT WOULD HELP THE ENVIRONMENT. NOT NOT SO WOULD BE DESIGNED TO HELP THE ENVIRONMENT. IT WOULD BE AN OPEN AIR STRUCTURE THAT WOULD CONNECT VISITORS TO LIGHT AIR AND NATURE AND SERVE AS A SITE FOR MEETINGS AND EDUCATIONAL EVENTS, BUT THAT THAT IS A VERY, VERY FAR FROM BEING A SCHOOL OR A MUSEUM. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN OPEN AIR REGENERATIVE STRUCTURE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE UM, THAT THOSE WHO CREATED THIS DOCUMENT AREN'T MISREPRESENTED. UH, TO WHAT THEY WERE PRESENTING TO THE COUNCIL. NOW. SO THERE WE CAN'T MAKE A MOTION YET BECAUSE THIS WASN'T ALL THAT I. I PROPOSE THERE WAS THERE WERE ADDITIONAL USE REGULATIONS THAT THAT I ALSO PROPOSED WITH THAT. RIGHT? DID YOU WANT ME TO GO OVER THOSE? I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. DID YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THEM? SURE. WELL WAIT A MINUTE. WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. WE CAN'T JUST MOVE TO SOMETHING ELSE IN TERMS OF THE CONTENT OF THE MOTION THAT'S BEEN MADE, SO I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS LET'S TAKE CARE OF THIS MOTION. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL EDITS THAT MR KUHN SAYS, ASKED FOR THAT WE HAVEN'T COVERED YET. SO EITHER THE MOTION IS WITHDRAWN AND NEGATED AND WE ADD IN WITH MR GRANT'S TALKING ABOUT AND I DON'T KNOW THE PROPRIETY OF NEGATING EMOTION. THAT'S BEEN THAT'S BEEN MADE IN SECOND. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TELL ME MR HAGAR SECOND CAN WITHDRAW THE SECOND PERSON TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION AND I'LL MAKE ANOTHER RUN AT IT. IF WE GET DONE TALKING ABOUT THIS, SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. THERE'S IT'S NOT GOING TO BE UP THERE, BUT IN HARD COPY. IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION. THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT MR COONS IS TALKING ABOUT IS ITEMS A THROUGH IS I UNDERSTAND. IS THAT CORRECT? MR COONS? YES, SIR. OKAY SO LET ME READ WHAT'S THERE BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING WITH THIS WITHDRAWAL OF THE MOTION, ALL RIGHT. WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN. YOU'RE NOT JUST AGREED . WHAT'S IN THERE? I'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN. AND BY THE WAY, I KNOW THIS HAS TAKEN A LONG TIME. BUT THIS IS I BELIEVE THIS IS NECESSARY. FOR US TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS. UM, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO READ IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THEM. SURE, SURE, I REDID IT BECOMES GETS INTO THE RECORD. OKAY? SO A PRESERVED DISTRICT WILL NOT CONTAIN TRADITIONAL OR CUSTOMARY FACILITIES OR IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PUBLIC PARK THAT MAY CONTAIN IMPROVEMENTS TO SUPPORT PASSIVE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. B. DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED TO LOW IMPACT, REGENERATIVE AND OPEN AIR AMENITIES TO PASS A RECREATION, ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION. SEE DRIVEWAYS AND PARKING AREAS MUST CONSIST OF PERMEABLE, SIR. PERMEABLE SURFACES. D ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS AND LAND PROTECTION MAY BE ESTABLISHED THROUGH A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. E. THIS IS THE FINAL ITEM. SIGNAGE BENCHES, BUFFERING AND BOUNDARIES MUST BE NON INVASIVE AND CONSISTENT MATERIALS COMPATIBLE WITH AND CIVIL INTERFERENCE TO THE NATURAL FEATURES OF THE LAND. SO THOSE

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ARE I'VE READ INTO THE RECORD WHAT MR COONS HAS ASKED TO BE AMENDED TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT WE'RE ON AT THIS MOMENT, MR COONS. OKAY, SO, UH, PRESERVED DISTRICT WILL NOT CONTAIN TRADITIONAL OR CUSTOMARY FACILITIES. IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PUBLIC PARK, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE PEOPLE KEPT USING THE TERM PARK. THIS IS A PRESERVE. IT'S DIFFERENT FROM A PARK. YOU HAVE ACTIVE RECREATION IN THE PARK. YOU HAVE PASSIVE RECREATION IN A PRESERVE. AND SO THIS, UH. YOU KNOW, PRESERVE DISTRICT WERE NOT ALLOWED FOR TENNIS COURTS. BASKETBALL COURTS OF PAVED PAVED TRAILS, PLAYGROUNDS, THAT'S ALL WHAT YOU HAVE IN ACTIVE RECREATION AREA. WE WANT THIS TO BE PASSIVE RECREATION, SO HIKING AH, BIRDWATCHING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS SO THAT THAT EXPLAINS A THE DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED TO LOW IMPACTRATIVE AND OPEN AIR AMENITIES TO PASS THE RECREATION, ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION, SO LOW IMPACT MEANS THAT CREATES MINIMUM RUNOFF. SO WHEN IT RAINS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY EROSION PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT CONCRETE EVERYWHERE. AND YOU JUST GOT, UH AND WE ALREADY HAVE EROSION GOING ON BY THE CREEK IF YOU PUT CONCRETE OUT THERE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM ON YOUR HANDS, SO AH! LOW IMPACT STRUCTURES. AH I ALREADY EXPLAINED REGENERATIVE STRUCTURE, SO THEY'RE DESIGNED TO UH, REVERSE ECOLOGICAL DAMAGE INSTEAD OF CAUSES. AND SO THEY THEY HELP THE ENVIRONMENT. THEY DON'T HAVE THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS. SEE DRIVEWAYS AND PARKING AREAS MUST CONSIST OF PERMEABLE SURFACES SO AGAIN TRYING TO REDUCE RUNOFF AND ALLOWED THE GROUND AND THE EARTH TO ABSORB THE RAINWATER LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO. AND THE ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS AND LAND PROTECTION MAY BE ESTABLISHED THROUGH A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. AND SO NOT JUST ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT ANY OTHER PROPERTY THAT MIGHT BE REZONED AS A PRESERVE. UH, AREA NATURE PRESERVE. A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, WHICH IS BASICALLY A IT'S ANOTHER TOOL FOR PROTECTION. AND SO IF THERE IS A PROPERTY THAT WE WANT TO ADD ANOTHER LEVEL OF PROTECTION TO YOU CAN PUT A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON IT, AND THIS WOULD ALLOW THAT AND THEN SIGNAGE, E SIGNAGE, BENCHES BUFFERING. AND BOUNDARIES MUST BE NON INVASIVE AND CONSISTENT MATERIALS COMPATIBLE WITH AND SIMILAR IN APPEARANCE AND IN APPEARANCE TO THE NATURAL FEATURES OF THE LAND . AND SO ANY SIGNAGE OR BENCHES OR ANYTHING WE PUT OUT THERE. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT DAMAGING THE LAND AND THAT IT LOOKS GOOD OUT THERE AND IT'S CONSISTENT IN APPEARANCE WITH, UH, THE NATURAL FEATURES. SO WHERE IN THE ORDINANCE DO YOU WISH THOSE FIVE ITEMS TO BE IN SOME USES, AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE HAVE ADDITIONAL USE REGULATIONS? AND SECTION 3.04 OF THE ORDINANCES ADDITIONAL USE REGULATIONS. THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING THEM THERE. WHAT EVER EXPERIENCES. I GUESS I'LL BE UP TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DECIDE WHERE WE COULD ADD THOSE OPEN SPACE UNDER AGE. LOOK AT H. YEP CONSERVATION USES IS 3.04 SUB PARAGRAPH H CONSERVATION USES. AH! INSTEAD OF THOSE NOT WELL, NOT INSTEAD, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. IN ADDITION TO THOSE NINE, THESE FIVE COULD BE ADDED TO THAT. CORRECT. AND IT GETS WHAT THEY NEED TO GO. YEAH THOSE FIVE ITEMS WHICH WOULD MAKE FOR YOU GIVE US 14 CONSERVATION USERS RATHER THAN THAT. WE HAVE IN 3.04, MAYBE REDUNDANT, BUT LET'S GET THEM IN THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE LANGUAGE SO I ADDED TO SUBSECTION THREE, OR 3.04 H H. ALRIGHT. BASED ON THAT. YOU WANT ME TO MAKE ANOTHER RUN? NO WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT BASED ON THAT AND NOW NEED THE WITHDRAWAL OF THE SECOND TO THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE SO WE CAN REINTRODUCE THE EMOTION WAS GOOD. WHO MADE THE SECOND YES, YOU MAY PLEASE. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE YOU WERE SAYING IF WE CHANGE THAT TAKE THAT CHART OUT AS FAR AS OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY. WILL THEY BE ABLE TO IF WE COME TO THAT POINT? IS THAT GOING TO HAVE TO BE A SPECIAL S U P TO DO WHATEVER TO OTHER AREAS THAT WE TAKE IT OUT OF THIS AGE? YES, MA'AM. KIDS. COULD YOU GIVE US SOME? OH, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. NO, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET CLEAR. THANKS. COULD YOU GIVE US SCENARIO? I MEAN, WHICH THAT WOULD HAPPEN, SO WE SAY WE WANT THIS PROPERTY TO BE DESIGNATED PROTECTED AS A NATURE PRESERVE. AND THEN I GUESS I DON'T SEE A SCENARIO WHERE WE'D COME BACK AND SAY, YEAH, LET'S PUT A SCHOOL ON IT. NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE'S ASKING SHOES ASKING IF THERE WAS ANOTHER AREA IN TOWN THAT THIS. THAT SOMEONE WANTED TO TRY TO ZONE AS A NATURE PRESERVE AREA, AND WE WANTED TO ALLOW USE THAT WE JUST EXCLUDED, BUT WE HAVE TO CREATE

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A NEW DISTRICT FOR THAT. AND THE ANSWER IS B. PROBABLY YES. NO. BECAUSE THE. NOBODY USES ALREADY EXISTS IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE. YOU HAVE TO COME BACK IN AMEND THE ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHAT SHE'S ASKING. YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK IN AMEND THE ORDINANCE. TO PREVENT IT. WHAT YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST SAY, SO. THERE WAS ANOTHER PARK IN TOWN AND WE WANTED TO CONVERT IT TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT IS NOW MORE PASSIVE. AND. IN THAT PASSIVE USE. YOU MAY ALLOW THINGS THERE. THAT YOU WOULDN'T ALLOW ON THE LAD PROBLEM. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CREATE ANOTHER DISTRICT OR WHEN I HAVE TO CREATE THE ABILITY TO PUT THINGS IN THAT. NATURE AREA THAT MAY BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR THE LAB PROPERTY. SO IT WOULD NECESSITATE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO WRITE A BROAD AND NARROW DOWN ON THE LAD PROPERTY.

THE QUESTION, SHE ASKED IF THERE WAS ANOTHER PROPERTY IN TOWN THAT MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR SOME SPECIAL NATURE PRESERVE LIGHT CONSERVATION LIKE TREATMENT WOULD WE EITHER HAVE TO CREATE A NEW ZONING DISTRICT FOR THAT USE SO NOT AS TO BLEED OVER INTO THE LAB PROPERTY. AND THE ANSWER IS YES. IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. JUST ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. SO WHERE WE ARE, IT'S CLEAR THAT. THE PROPONENTS OF THIS AND YOURSELF INCLUDED. DON'T TRUST THE REST OF US. AND THAT'S FINE. LET'S JUST CALL FOR WHAT IT IS, AND YOU WANT SOMETHING ON THIS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE THIS FOREVER. OKAY? THEN IT'S NARROW AND IT'S NARROWLY DRAWN AND IT'S SPECIFIC TO THIS PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. BROADER TRYING THE BROADER FIX. IS NOT POSSIBLE. WITHOUT OPENING THE DOOR. JUST BE HONEST WITH YOU. I'M NOT GONNA LIE TO YOU. WILL YOU WRITE SOMETHING GENERAL THAN IT'S SUBJECT TO BEING CHANGED AT SOME POINT IN TIME, MORE EASILY THAN THAT, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT. THAT'S CLEAR. AND IF WE IN THE FUTURE IDENTIFIED OTHER GREEN SPACES THAT WE WANTED THIS TO APPLY TO WOULD HAVE THIS DISTRICT AND WE HAVE THIS USE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT USE. BUT IF YOU'VE GOT SOME THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO, AND YOU MAY WANT TO CHANGE THEM. I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU CREATE NATURE PRESERVE, TOO. BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GONNA OPEN THE DOOR ON THIS. THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER NIGHT. ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE'LL STICK WITH THIS FOR NOW. WE'LL STICK WITH THE NATURE PRESERVE. FOR NOW, YOU BETCHA.

THANK YOU. SO WHERE WE ARE WHERE WE ARE ON A SECOND. THEY WERE SECOND TO THE FIRST MOTION HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. WITHDRAW WHICH NEGATES THE FIRST MOTION. SO MR CITY ATTORNEY. HE'S GOT TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION WITHDRAWAL REQUEST TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION. DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT? NO FINE. WITHDRAWN MOVE ON IT ON MR CITY ATTORNEY. YES ELOQUENCE IN YOUR ARTICULATION. PLEASE GIVE US THE NEW MOTION THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING NOW. OKAY THE NEW MOTION IS TO APPROVE ORDINANCE OR D 24 85. WITH THE DEFINITIONS AS RIGHT INTO THE RECORD BY THE MAYOR AND MYSELF TO CHANGE CONSERVATION. OPEN DISTRICT C O D TO NATURE PRESERVED DISTRICT NP TO CHANGE THE CHART ACCORDINGLY AND REMOVE CHART 303 . THAT'S IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. PUTTING IN CHART 303 IS PROPOSED BY STAFF. AND YOU ADD ITEMS A THROUGH E AS OUT, OY EXPLAINED BY COUNCILMAN KUNZ. TO CHECK SECTION 3.04 H. CHERYL ENTERTAINING MOTION TO APPROVE SO MOVED MERCHANT APPROVED BY MR VERA CRUZ, SECOND 2ND 2ND AGAIN. COUNCIL MEMBER GOODEN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. COUNCIL. MR CONTRERAS. YOU HAD A FIST UP IS THAT YOU WANT TO TALK? OKAY. ALRIGHT, COUNSEL. COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET THE FIST. OKAY, COUNSEL, PLEASE VOTE. MR CONTRERAS, YOU WERE A POSITIVE THE VOTERS. 5 TO 2 APPROVED. UH ONE NOTE. UM AND WE ARE AT A QUARTER TO 11 ROUGHLY

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THEIR CONDITIONING IN THIS BUILDING WAS SHUT DOWN AT MIDNIGHT.

[5.D. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider an Ordinance amending Appendix A ‘Zoning Ordinance’, Article II ‘Zoning Districts’, Sections 2.01 ‘Special Zoning Districts Subsection C ‘Conservation Open Space District (COD); by amending Article III. ‘Land Uses’ Sections 3.03 ‘Use Chart’, 3.04 ‘Additional Use Regulations’, by amending Article VI ‘Definitions’.]

ITEM. FIVE D. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING APPENDIX A ZONING ORDINANCE ARTICLE TO ZONING DISTRICT SECTION 2.01 SPECIAL ZONING DISTRICT SUBSECTION C CONSERVATION OPEN SPACE DISTRICT PERRIN C O D BY AMENDING ARTICLE THREE LAND USERS SECTION 3.03 USED CHART 3.04 ADDITIONAL USE REGULATIONS BY MEANING ARTICLES. SIX ROMAN NUMERAL V, I DEFINITIONS AND HERE AGAIN. THERE'S A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR IN AMENDING ARTICLE V. I ROMAN AND ROMAN V I SIX. THE CORRECT NOMENCLATURE. THERE IS ROMAN NUMERICAL V II.

ARTICLE SEVEN, MR WARREN. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR COUNCIL. SO THIS IS A, UM TEXT AMENDMENT. TWO.

ALLOW FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT NATURE PRESERVE. AND AS IT IS WRITTEN IN AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. UH NATURE PRESERVE DISTRICTS PURPOSE STATEMENT IN THE SPECIAL ZONING DISTRICTS BEING SECTIONS 2.05 PURPOSES. OF THE NP NATURE PRESERVE DISTRICT IS PRESERVED.

NATURAL AREAS WHERE COMMUNITY BENEFIT THE INTENT OF THIS DISTRICT IS TO PROTECT FLORA, FAUNA AND PHYSICAL FEATURES OF AN AREA WHILE ALLOWING A RESOURCE FOR SECTION PAST THE RECREATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION FOR PRESIDENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS, LIMITED DEVELOPMENT AND ERECTION OF STRUCTURES SUCH AS PAVILIONS, AMPHITHEATERS, RESTROOMS ARE PERMITTED WITH THE VISION OF MINIMUM, LEE MINIMALLY. IMPACTING THE NATURAL STATE OF THE PROPERTY. THIS DISTRICT IS ACT AS A HUB FOR GREEN SPACE, OPEN SPACE AND TRAIL NETWORKS IN WHICH VISITORS CAN APPRECIATE THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE THAT THESE SPECIAL DISTRICTS OFFER. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE BEFORE ZERO. SO THIS IS THE COLUMN IN THE, UH PERMITTED USE LAND USE CHART. SO THE PURPOSE LIKE LANGUAGE HAS CHANGED AND THE DISTRICT NAME HAS CHANGED. UH SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED IN LENGTH OF THE PREVIOUS ITEM.

SO THE CONSERVATION OPEN SPACES DISTRICT AS PRESENTED IN THIS ITEM IN YOUR PACKET AND IN THE AGENDA. IS THAT THE PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY OWNED REAL PROPERTY FOR PERMANENT OPENING OPEN SPACE FOR PRESERVATION PURPOSES AND WOULD REQUIRE LIMITATIONS. OR AFFIRMATIVE OBLIGATIONS THAT DESIGNED TO PROTECT NATURAL SCENIC OR OPEN SPACE, INCLUDING PASSIVE RECREATION, WILDLIFE, HABITAT, ECOLOGICAL, GEOLOGICAL AND HISTORIC HISTORICAL PRESERVATION. WATER QUALITY PROTECTION, AIR PURIFICATION, SCIENCE, EDUCATION, NATURE OBSERVATION AND CONTINUE TO BE OF A AESTHETICALLY OPEN AESTHETIC, OPEN SPACE AND NATURAL AREAS AND TO MINIMIZE OR CONSTRAIN THE IMPACT OF HUMAN ACTIVITY. TO PROTECT NATURE AND FLORA AND ANIMAL SPECIES. SUCH PRESERVED AREA WILL NOT GENERALLY CONTAINED MAN MADE FACILITIES OR IMPROVEMENTS, BUT MAY CONTAIN SUCH IMPROVEMENTS THAT DIRECTLY SUPPORT PASSIVE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND PROVIDE MINIMAL IMPACT. ON NATURAL CONDITIONS OF THE REAL PROPERTY. SO STAFF UNDERSTANDS AND RECOGNIZES THAT THE BURBAGE CHANGE MAY BE HARSH, BUT IN THE LITERAL SENSE IS A FACTUAL STATEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO BRING FORWARD TO THIS COUNCIL. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS APPROVED VERBATIM BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM IN FIVE D. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN. TIMESTAMP IS 10 45. ALL INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ISLAND. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND WE ARE USING A 15 MINUTE TIME FRAME ON THIS ONE, AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST.

MY NAME IS MARY ANN ROMANO AND I LIVE AT 6 39 CHERYL BOULEVARD HERE IN DUNCANVILLE. I HAVE BEEN HERE SO OFTEN THAT THE SCREENING STAFF OUT THERE, AND I ARE EXCHANGING CHRISTMAS CARDS. I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THIS IS THE MOST POSITIVE. MEETING THAT I HAVE ATTENDED AND ALL THOSE TIMES I WAS PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT. SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I'LL SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY EVERYONE HAS WORKED TOGETHER TO GET TO THE POINT. WE ARE RIGHT NOW. AND I

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HOPE THAT WILL CONTINUE. BECAUSE I WAS AWARE OF THE CEDAR HILL DEVELOPER WHO WAS AT THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS. I WAS AWARE OF SOME THINGS THAT REALLY MADE ME FEEL BAD ABOUT THE DIRECTION WE WERE HEADING RIGHT NOW. I FEEL VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THAT. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR IT. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? PLEASE COME FORWARD. OKAY BROWNING FOR TWO EAST CHERRY STREET. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE AS LONG AS IT CAN REMAIN. AS TIGHT AS WE'VE GOT THE OTHER ONE. AND I HAD TO SAY THAT, BUT YOU ALL KNOW WHAT WE WANT, AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS IF WE CAN KEEP IT. LIKE IT LIKE THE OTHER ONE. EMILY BRIDGES 418 OLEANDER.

SAME YEAH, MAYOR, YOU KNOW WHAT I FIND VERY DISTURBING ABOUT THIS. I ALMOST UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY SAID. JUSTMAN JENSEN'S 7 11 OLYMPIA DRIVE. I THANK YOU, ROBERT HAGER FOR EXCUSE ME. WE DO NOT ADDRESS INDIVIDUALS BY NAME. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER . IT'S YOUR RULE, NOT MINE. I'M SORRY. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE TOGETHER, TOO. TO MAKE THIS WHAT WE WOULD WANT FOR OUR CITY AND FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. I DO SEE THAT AND THE DEFINITION. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PUT THAT BACK BACK UP ON THE SCREEN FOR THE CONSERVATION OPEN SPACE DISTRICT. THAT THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT, SUCH AS WATER CLEANING AND THE PROTECTION OF THE LAND AND THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO PROBABLY INCLUDE. UH, SO THAT WE CAN DO THOSE THINGS ON THIS PROPERTY? SO, UM. I DO, LIKE THE DEFINITION OF NATURE PRESERVE THAT THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED AS WELL. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE SPITE? UM SEEING NONE. ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO COME FORWARD SPEAKING OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE. ANY COMMENTS IN REBUTTAL? SEEING NONE. CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION INCLUDES THIS PUBLIC HEARING. SO MOVED WE HAVE A MOVE FROM THE CLOSED PUBLIC AIR. MR. MCBURNETT SECOND BY MR BEAR CRUISE COUNCIL, YOU'RE VOTING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR CONTRERAS UNANIMOUSLY OR CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING TIMESTAMP 10 49.

THIS IS NOT OPEN TO DISCUSSION BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MR VERA CRUZ. YES, SIR. CAN WE GET THAT SLIDE PUT BACK UP THE DEFINITION. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALREADY TELL YOU, IT'S ALL CHANGED THE WORLD CONSERVATION, OPEN SPACE AND NATURE PRESERVES, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT DEBATE BASED ON THE PREVIOUS MOTION. THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR BARROW CREWE'S THAT'S IT. UM, MR CHAIR. OKAY, UM COOL. TRYING TO READ ALL THIS LOOKS PRETTY GOOD, ACTUALLY. I KNEW FINALLY. 10 55 THAT I WOULD. DID YOU WRITE THIS WHILE WE WERE DISCUSSING THE OTHER DAY, I WAS I HAD THE ESSENCE OF WHAT YOU DID. SOMETIMES DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS, AND THIS IS A PURPOSE STATEMENT, AND IT'S THE DEFINITION. SEEMS TO BE EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAD WRITTEN AS WELL. MAYBE A LITTLE BROADER. I DO MENTION THEM THINGS THAT YOU DIDN'T BUT WE WILL CHANGE. OPEN SPACE TO NATURE PRESERVE. UNDER THE SAME IN 7.02. AND SO WE'RE FINISHING OCCURS. ENGINE JUST AGAIN. JUST SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WE ARE CREATING A NEW ZONING DISTRICT AND WE'RE DEFYING THE PURPOSE OF THAT DISTRICT. AND THEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE THIS SAME DEFINITION IN 7.02. AND THAT THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING WITH THIS. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING. DISTRICT NAME PURPOSE. AND THE ACTUAL DEFINITION OF IT'LL BE THE SAME AS THIS. IT'S THE SAME LANGUAGE IS THIS. BECAUSE WE ADDED IT TO THE DEFINITION. SO WHEN THE WORD NATURE PRESERVE IS USED YOUR BOW TO 7.02 AND LOOK ALPHABETICALLY

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AND FIND THIS DEFINITION. CHAIRIL ENTERTAINER MOTION MOTION APPROVED SECOND. THERE MUST IMPROVE MR MCBURNETT SECONDMENT! MR. COONS COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE. UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. THANK YOU. ITEM. FIVE E CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDERING THE

[5.E. Conduct a Public Hearing and consider an Ordinance amending the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance and map, as heretofore amended, by amending the existing PD, Planned Development District to NP, Nature Preserve District on property located at 609 West Danieldale Road, Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas, described as Walnut Bend, Block A, Lot 1, ACS 42.419.]

ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND THE MAP IS HERE TO FOR AMENDED BY AMENDING THE EXISTING PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. NP NATURE PRESERVE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY LOCATED 609 WEST DANIEL DALE ROAD, DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS DESCRIBED AS ONE THAT BEN BLOCK A LOT ONE A. C S 42 ACRES. 42.419 MR WARREN FLOOR IS YOURS AGAIN, SIR. THANK YOU.

MAYOR COUNCIL. THE REQUEST IS A ZONING CHANGE ON THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS PREVIOUSLY OPPORTUNITY AREA A THE WORK HERE TONIGHT THAT THEY WERE AT THE HORSESHOE.

THERE IS NO LONGER IN THAT FUTURE LAND USE MAPPING DESIGNATION. CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT WITH THE NEWLY CREATED UH NATURE PRESERVE DISTRICT. IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS AN AERIAL. OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS A ZONING MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 80 MAILINGS SENT OUT TO REPLY IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION. SO NOW THAT WE HAVE THE TOOLS EVER BUILT AND PUT OUR TOOLBOX TODAY WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MADE POSSIBLE ZONING CHANGE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. BY VOTE OF 4 TO 0. THE NAME OF THE OTHER PROPOSAL IN DISTRICT DOES NOT MATCH THE NAME OF THE NEWLY CREDITS. I MEAN DISTRICT THAT HAS BEEN REMEDIED AS BY THE WORK OF THE PREVIOUS TWO ITEMS TODAY AT THIS HORSESHOE AND I CONCLUDE STAFFS PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TIME STAMPED OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING 10 53. ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM. PLEASE COME FORWARD. ERICA BROWNING FOR FOUR TO EAST CHERRY STREET. THIS IS WHAT THE LAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN ABOUT. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND FOR LISTENING. AND I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD SO IN THIS LAST LAST PEACE IN FAVOR. WHAT YOU KNOW, WE ALL WANT. THANK YOU. MARI VEGAS 6 11 ORIOLE BOULEVARD. UM I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET PAST THE GREENWASHING. WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY GET TO BE THIS IS I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S IMMINENT AND THANK YOU, UM YEARS AGO, THERE WAS SOME SORT OF PROMOTIONAL ITEM OF. VERY PROMINENT MEMBERS OF DUNCANVILLE, WEARING COSTUMES AND GOING AS MOTHER AND FATHER EARTH. AND IT WAS KIND OF A FORM OF GREENWASHING. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THAT. WE NEED TO MOVE PAST THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TOO DARK SKIES WE'RE GONNA GET TO CUTTING OUT THE BLUE LIGHTS AT NIGHT, SO EVERY ANIMAL AND CREATURE INCLUDING HUMAN SLEEPS BETTER. I'M FEELING YOU.

THANK YOU. MARK AROUND 4/10 OF A TRAIL. IT WAS 2017 WHEN I LOOKED . DUNCANVILLE VERY CLOSELY, AND I NOTICED THERE WAS A NEW DISTRICT THAT WAS BEING CREATED DOWN THERE. LAND THAT I USED BEFORE THAT. I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST TIME MYSELF. SAID. NATURE PRESERVE. ALL THESE YEARS. IT'S TAKEN SINCE 2017 FOR ME. INVOLVE GOT ROLLING. ALL I ASK, IS RIGHT HERE, THIS IS IT. PLEASE DO IT.

THANK YOU. THE ONLY BRIDGES 418 OLEANDER. THANK YOU. I THINK WE'RE ABOUT TO GET THIS DONE, AND I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED AND GRATEFUL FOR IT. AND SMILE. IT'S BEEN A LOT OF HARD WORK, AND WE'RE ALL STILL SMILING. THANK YOU. A NEW PERSON TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK. MY NAME IS MARY NANCE MEZA A LITTLE BIT TOO 06 NORTH HASTINGS. MY ANCESTORS CAME TO TEXAS IN 18 45. THEY GOT THAT

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LAND FROM PETER'S COLONY, AND IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE FOR YOU TO SAVE IT AND KEEP IT IN THE NATURE OF BEAUTY THAT THEY FOUND IT WHEN THEY CAME TO TEXAS IN 1945. THANK YOU. HELLO EVA WALTERS. 11 15. COLBERT LANE. I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. THERE'S SO MUCH POTENTIAL ON THAT LAND NOT ONLY FOR THE GENERATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY LIVED ON IT, BUT FROM MY GENERATION AND THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO COME AFTER ME. EDUCATIONALLY RECREATIONALLY.

THERE IS SO MUCH POTENTIAL THERE AND YOU JUST OPEN THE DOOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SHANNON ROBERTS, 96 ROCK CANYON. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW THERE IS A FINANCIAL AND BUDGET CONCERN WITH THE CITY AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE HERE THAT THIS GROUP THAT HAS BEEN HERE FOR SO LONG STANDS READY TO GO. WE'RE READY WITH THE GRANTS WITH THE MONEY, MAINLY OUR OWN VOLUNTEER TIME. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A LONG TIME. AND NOW I WE FEEL EVEN MORE SUPPORTED AND DOING THAT AND TAKING CARE OF THE LAND, SO WE WILL. WE ARE EXCITED THAT WE WILL GET TO BEGIN THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE BELIEVE WILL HAVE OUR VISION. UM, COME AND COUNTER FRUITION.

SO, UM ONCE THIS GETS APPROVED, WE TRULY CAN GET STARTED, AND IT WON'T COST US MUCH AT ALL. AND THERE'S SO MUCH GOOD THAT WE WILL DO SO I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOU ON THE CREEK. THANK YOU. I'M JUST, UM AND JENSEN 7 11 OLYMPIA DRIVE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THIS IS KIND OF AN EMOTIONAL MOMENT FOR ME. I HAVE FOUR KIDS, UM WE TRAVEL ALL OVER THE METROPLEX TWO DIFFERENT NATURE AREAS. UM AND MY SEVEN YEAR OLD CAN WE GO TO THE LAD PROPERTY? THAT'S HER FAVORITE PLACE TO GO. UM WE LOVE IT. WE'VE BEEN ONE WHEN IT SNOWED, LIKE REALLY HARD AND YOU CAN'T GET ANYWHERE WE WENT. WE WENT THERE. UM SO THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT SO MANY LIVES. FOR SO LONG AND REALLY GREAT FOR THIS. AND UM, WHEN I WENT AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS AND, UM. THE AREAS AROUND THE LAB PROPERTY. I TARGETED THOSE WHO WERE WITHIN 200 FT. OF THE PROPERTY AND OUT OF THOSE 80 MAILERS THAT YOU SENT OUT. I HAVE 30 SIGNATURES ON THOSE SURVEYS. UM SO THAT IS A HUGE PERCENTAGE. AND THAT'S JUST WHO ANSWERED THE DOOR. SO, UM, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE WHO WANT THIS. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? SEEING NONE. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE ANY. MARLA'S GORDON 17 51 CRESCENT LANE. I AM NOT HERE TO OPPOSE. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO SAY THIS. I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE LAD PROPERTY BEING A NATURE PRESERVE. UM WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO THE COUNCIL? YES. THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT FIVE. C AND D. THAT IT'S ALREADY A DONE DEAL. I KNOW THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY PUBLICLY. THAT NOW THAT YOU HAVE TIGHTENED THE LANGUAGE ON C N. D. FOR THE REST OF OUR PLACES IN THE CITY. I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET THIS SKATE PARK.

THAT WE MUST HAVE FOR OUR YOUTH. IN OUR CITY AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED FOR OUR TEENAGERS.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. PLEASE COME FORWARD. ANYONE ELSE PUSHING TO SPEAKING REBUTTAL. PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEMED ON THE CHAIR OF ENTERTAINING MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SOME OF MOTION. CLOSE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR MCBURNETT CLOSE SECONDED BY MR VERA CRUZ. THIS IS THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WAS MR

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CONTRERAS. HELLO. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, OPEN THIS UP TO JUST. MAYOR COLLEGE TIME 11 01. YES 11 01. THANK YOU FOR CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING 11 01 TIME STEP NOW IT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MR COUNTS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THIS IS A HEARING SO WE CAN ADDRESS COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE CORRECT BY CITIZENS. SO, UH, WOULD THIS PREVENT US FROM GETTING A SKATEPARK SOMEWHERE ELSE? OKAY? SURE. YEAH, GOOD. YEAH. OKAY, OKAY. AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO SO 80 MAILERS HAD BEEN SENT OUT. AND ONLY THEY'RE ONLY THREE RESPONSES. THAT'S CORRECT.

CORRECT. TWO WERE. TWO ARE IN FAVOR, ONE AGAINST ONE THAT WAS AGAINST, UH, MAY HAVE BEEN IN CONFUSION. WITH WITH THE RESPONSES THAT WERE GIVEN IT SEEMED LIKE THEY. THE LANGUAGE WAS THAT THEY WERE FOR PRESERVATION. HOWEVER THE IN THE INDICATED BOX WAS IN OPPOSITION.

ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. AND SO AS FAR AS THE SURVEYS AND MAYOR. YOU'RE RIGHT IT IT DOESN'T SAY PETITION ON HERE ANYWHERE SO AH, BUT WE'VE GOT SKY VIEW. AND. THERE'S ABOUT THREE OR FOUR PAGES OF SIGNATURES FROM SKYVIEW, AND THAT'S NOT A LARGE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S KIND OF A SLIVER RIGHT ALONG DANIEL DALE. AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UH, PEN SPRINGS, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THAT. AND THEN THERE'S A PAGE FULL FOR PENN SPRING, ACTUALLY. ONE PAGE AND THEN WE'VE GOT TON OF SIGNATURES FROM SWAN RIDGE, WHICH IS RIGHT AGAIN TO THE EAST , AND THERE'S A TON OF SIGNATURES HERE FROM SANTA FE VILLAGE, ALL SAYING THE SAME THING THAT WE WANT TO DESIGNATE THIS PROPERTY OF PRESERVED AND ALSO, UH, THAT WE WANT THAT THEY'RE OPPOSED TO ANY ZONING DESIGNATION THAT MIGHT ALLOW FOR HIGH IMPACT CONSTRUCTION OR DEVELOPMENT. SO EVEN THOUGH I DON'T KNOW. AH! IF THIS CONSTITUTES EVEN A PROTEST, ACCORDING TO OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PROTEST ZONING. BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE OVERWHELMING TO ME. WHAT THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY WHAT THEY WANT. THEY WANT AN OPEN SPACE AND THEY DON'T WANT ANY DEVELOPMENT. SO I'LL LEAVE MY COMMENTS THERE. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS , BUT THIS CITY COUNCIL I DON'T SEE CHAIRMAN TENDER MOTION TO APPROVE. SO MOVED OH, I'M SORRY, MR EDGAR. JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE'RE GONNA CHANGE FROM THE DEFINITION WAS POSED IN ORDINANCE 24 89 TO CHANGE CONSERVATION DISTRICT TO NATURE PRESERVE DISTRICT IN BOTH 2.05 AND 7.02. CORRECT. CORRECT. DO YOU ACCEPT THAT LANGUAGE IS THE IS THE YOU MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. CORRECT DO YOU ACCEPT WHAT? MR HAGAR JUST ITERATED GAVE SO MOVED AFTER HE REPEATED AGAIN. OKAY, MR VERA CRUZ, YOUR SECONDED. RIGHT? COUNCIL, PLEASE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PLEASE VOTE. MR CONTRERAS. UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. OKAY. IT'S APPROVED. MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE F. YES. MAY I ADD? UH, JUST SOME COMMENTS TO CLOSE THIS OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO ACTUALLY. SO I SEE HIM BROWN. JUST A FEW FOLLOW UP REQUESTS FOLLOWING WHAT WE'VE JUST DONE. UM, IF WE CAN HAVE A RESOLUTION. PREPARED THAT DECLARES THIS PROPERTY TO BE NAMED THE CHARLES F FLAT NATURE PRESERVE. AND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT TO VOTE ON TO NAME THIS PROPERTY. THE CHARLES F LAD NATURE PRESERVE. AND THEN IF WE CAN BEGIN A DISCUSSION ABOUT ADDING SECTION TWO ARE PARKS ORDINANCE THAT IDENTIFIES PROPERTIES. AS NATURE PRESERVES IN OUR PARKS ORDINANCE. AND THEN

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DRAFTING SOME REGULATIONS AND PROHIBITIONS THAT WOULD APPLY TO PRESERVES. AND THAT'S A LOT OF WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AFTER, BUT IS THAT THE DESIRE TO EVERYBODY? WELL, THAT THAT'S JUST A PERSONAL REQUEST OF MINE. AND AS A PERSONAL REQUEST OF ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, THOSE THAT THOSE REQUESTS WILL BE FORMULATED AND BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL RECOMMENDATION. ONE OTHER KIND. SO I WANTED TO READ SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WILL ALLOW. BECAUSE WE DID GET A LOT OF UH, WRITTEN COMMENTS AND OF COURSE, THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN WE YEAH. THE MAYOR HAD TO READ. FOR ABOUT 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR COMMENT AFTER COMMENT AFTER COMMENT ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WANTED NATURE PRESERVE, AND I JUST WANTED TO READ ONE OF THOSE. COMMENTS. AND SHE SAYS, I HAVE ONLY SPOKEN ONCE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING PROPOSED BIKE TRAILS NARROW HOME ADJACENT TO LIKE LAKESIDE PARK. UM SOON AT MORE THAN A YEAR AGO , I BEGAN SEEING POSTS ABOUT AREAS IN DUNCANVILLE ALONG 10 MILE CREEK. I WAS SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THE CREEK AND YOUR HARRINGTON PARK. BUT NOT THE AREA OF THE LAD LAND OTHER THAN PASSING BY ON LOCAL STREETS. AND SO I WAS CURIOUS TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THIS AND OTHER AREAS ALONG THE CREEK. IT FASCINATED ME THAT WE HAD. WE HAD SOMETHING NOT JUST IN OUR AREA, BUT IN OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY WITH WATER.

THAT WAS AS BEAUTIFUL AS THE PHOTOS I WAS SEEING. AH RECENTLY I UNDERSTOOD THAT SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN CLEAN UP EFFORTS IN THE AREA. FEW WEEKS AGO, I WAS ABLE TO GO AND SEE FIRSTHAND ALL THE WORK THAT SOME DUNCANVILLE NEIGHBORS HAD DONE TO CREATE HIKING PATHS AROUND THE CREEK. I KNOW THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN DUNCANVILLE. THAT IS UNDOUBTEDLY IMPORTANT, BUT IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY MORE AMENABLE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, AND A DISCUSSION OF THAT, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LAD LAND IS LIKE MIXING OIL AND WATER. AND FINALLY, THERE ARE NO OTHER AREAS I'M AWARE OF, AND DUNCANVILLE THAT WOULD LEND THEMSELVES IN THE WAY OR IN THE SAME WAY TO THE TREASURE WE HAVE WITH THIS LAND. THEREFORE I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE WISHES OF GROWING NUMBERS OF OUR CITIZENS AND THE INTENT OF MR LAD. AND I ASK YOU SERIOUSLY TO EXPLORE THE OPTION OF DESIGNATING THIS AREA AS A NATURE PRESERVE DUE TO DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS. I WON'T ENUMERATE THE LIST OF POSSIBILITIES SUGGESTED BY OTHERS WITH MORE EXPERTISE IN MYSELF. BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS COULD BE DONE WITH FAIRLY MINIMAL COST TO THE CITY AND POSSIBLY QUALIFY FOR OUTSIDE FUNDING WITH THE BENEFITS FAR OUTWEIGHING ANY COSTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND THAT WAS SENT TUESDAY. SEPTEMBER 7TH 2021 AND THE AUTHOR OF THAT HER NAME WAS . GETTING LIKE, YOU KNOW. HER NAME WAS KIM SPURLOCK. AND KIM SPURLOCK. SHE ACTUALLY PASSED AWAY. UM. NOT NOT NOT MUCH LONGER AFTER SHE WROTE THIS AND SHE WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THE EFFORT OF CIRCULATING THE PETITION. AND THE LAST TIME I TALKED TO HER, SHE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL, SHE PASSED AWAY OF BRAIN CANCER. AND THE LAST THING SHE ASKED ME ABOUT WAS, HOW ARE THINGS GOING WITH THE LAD PROPERTY? WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF, AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW SHE WAS, AND SHE WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS OUT, HELPING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A NATURE PRESERVE. AND SO, UH, AH! I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT WE REACHED THIS POINT THAT WE HAVE AND I KNOW THAT KIM IS VERY HAPPY THAT WE'VE REACHED THIS POINT AND, UH, AND SHE, OF COURSE, IS JUST REPRESENTS SO MANY. PEOPLE. I MEAN, THE COUNTLESS PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS AND THEN WORKING FOR THIS, AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL.

AND FOR THE DECISION THAT YOU MADE TONIGHT. I WANT TO ADD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. FIRST OF ALL TO THANK ALL THE VOLUNTEERS OVER THE PAST YEARS WHO HAVE MAINTAINED THE CREEK. AND THE PROPERTY. WE SEE THE BAGS OF GARBAGE ON THE SIDE THAT ARE BEING PICKED UP BY THE REPUBLIC. AND WE KNOW THAT THOSE ARE PEOPLE WITH THAT HAVE CLIMBED INTO THE WATERS WITH WAITERS ON I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN PEOPLE OUT THERE WITH FISHING WADERS UP TO THEIR UP TO THE CHEST AND WALKING IN THE WATER AND CLEANING UP. UM MR HAGAR DIDN'T MENTION THAT THERE'S WE MUST LOOK AT HOW THE TRASH COMES INTO OUR CREEK FROM DOWNSTREAM. ALRIGHT, I SHOULD SAY FROM UPSTREAM THERE IS QUITE A KNOWLEDGEABLE UNDERSTANDING THAT A LOT OF THAT TRASH COMING INTO INTO THAT CREEK IS COMING FROM GRAND PRAIRIE, ESPECIALLY DURING STORMS. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ENGINEERING THINGS. MR BROWN. WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT IN TERMS OF A CATCH BASIN TO STOP THAT FROM

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GETTING ANY WORSE. SO TO THANK ALL THE VOLUNTEERS THAT YOU'VE INVESTED YOUR TIME AND ENERGY AND KEEPING THAT CLEAR CREEK CLEAN. UM THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION I STATED THIS AT THE OUTSET, I'M GOING TO REITERATE IT NOW THAT THIS IS COMPLETE. IN DECEMBER. THIS COUNCIL. MADE AN OBLIGATION MY WORDS, WE WILL DELIVER AN ORDINANCE. AND WE HAVE DELIVERED THAT ORDINANCE TONIGHT. WE HAVE DONE WHAT WE HAVE PROMISED TO DO. YOU THINK IT TOOK A LITTLE TOO LONG? TOO BAD. WE DID IT THE RIGHT WAY. YOU SAW WHAT HAD TO HAPPEN THE RIGHT WAY. YOU SAW THE LEGALITY AND THE DISCUSSION THAT WENT ON TONIGHT IN ORDER FOR US TO GET TO THIS POINT. WE DID WHAT WE PROMISED. AND WE DID IT THE RIGHT WAY. AND I THINK YOU AS CITIZENS ARE TO THANK THIS COUNCIL FOR AND STAFF. HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS SPENT BY STAFF AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND MAKING THIS HAPPEN THE WAY IT HAS TONIGHT. I THINK YOU OWE US AND APPLAUSE. WE'VE

[5.F. Conduct a Public Hearing and consideration of an Ordinance rescinding the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance and map, as heretofore amended, be and the same hereby revoke a Special Use Permit “SUP” for an Adult Day Care for real property located at 707 Center Ridge Road, Duncanville, Texas.]

GOT 45 MINUTES TILL THE AIR SHUTS DOWN. WE ARE ON ITEM FIVE. F. CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE. WE'RE SENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP IS HERE TO FORM ENDED AND BE IN THE SAME HERE I REVOKE, ESPECIALLY USED PERMIT.

ADULT DAYCARE FOR REAL PROPERTY LOCATED 707, SENATE RIDGE ROAD. DUNCANVILLE, TEXAS MR WARREN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. THE REQUEST IS TO RESCIND A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BEING 707 CENTER RIDGE DRIVE. RECEIVING THE EXISTING S U. P IS NECESSARY TO ALLOW THE USE CHILDCARE FACILITY DAYCARE TO OPERATE THE APPLICANT AND OWNERS THE TONYA JENNINGS LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, MR WARREN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. MR LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. HELLO. PLEASE CONDUCT YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE. WE ARE IN COUNCIL. WE DO NOT NEED THAT CORRUPTION.

THANK YOU. IN MARCH OF MARCH, 3RD OF 1986 COUNCIL ADOPTED OR IN IN SUMMER. 1 1060 10 60, WHICH CREATED A SCP FOR A DAY NURSERY. IN FEBRUARY, 21ST 2017 COUNCIL ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE WHICH CREATED SCP FOR ADULT DAYCARE CENTER. AND AN AERIAL IMAGE SHOWN ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE EXISTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT SURROUNDED BY LOCAL OFFICE, RETAIL AND MULTI FAMILY 21 TO THE EAST. 11 MAILINGS WERE SENT OUT TO RESPONSES WERE IN FAVOR OF THE CHANGE. WE HAVE NO RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION WHERE WE'RE SENDING THIS S U P THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 0.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. TIMESTAMP OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS 11 14. ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR THIS ISLAND. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

MAYOR GORDON, CAN I PUT THE TIME BACK AT 10 MINUTES? OH, YES, PLEASE. YES, TIME TO SPEAK IS NOW GOING BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL 10 MINUTES. HMM. SEEING NONE. ANY INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING DOWN THE CHAIR OF ENTERTAINMENT MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MOVED MOST INCLUSIVE PUBLIC ENGLAND. MR MCBURNETT SECOND, MR KOONTZ, PLEASE VOTE ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR MACKERRAS WAS AFFIRMATIVE.

CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 11 14. OPENING IT FOR DISCUSSION WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. ANY DISCUSSION BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MR MCBURNETT, NO DISCUSSION MOTION TO MOVE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE A SECOND SECONDMENT. MR MCBURNETT . I'M SORRY, BUT MR VERA CRUZ PLEASE VOTE. ADAM UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. THANK YOU. ITEM. FIVE G CONDUCTED PUBLIC HEARING FOR

[5.G. Conduct a public hearing for consideration and action regarding the request of Monte Anderson, owner and applicant, to rescind an existing Specific Use Permit (SUP) to allow for the use of School, Business, Trade, or Vocational, and adopt an ordinance to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance and map on Main Commons, Block 3, Lot 1A, ACS 0.617, more commonly known as 134 North Main Street, City of Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]

CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REGARDING THE REQUEST OF MONTE ANDERSON, OWNER AN APPLICANT TO RESCIND AND EXISTING S U P TO ALLOW FOR THE USE OF SCHOOL, BUSINESS, TRADE OR VOCATIONAL AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP ON MAIN COMMONS BLOCK 318 ACRES 0.617 ACRES MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1, 34 NORTH MAIN STREET CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, TEXAS, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. UM MR WARREN FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR. THANK YOU.

MAYOR COUNCIL. REQUEST IS TO SEND AN S U P ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BEING 134 NORTH MAIN STREET, PRESENTING THE EXISTING S U. P IS NECESSARY TO ALLOW THE USE SCHOOL BUSINESS, TRADE OR VOCATIONAL TO OPERATE. THE APPLICANT IS MONTE ANDERSON, OWNER BEING MAIN COMMENTS DUNCANVILLE L T D HISTORY IN SEPTEMBER, 3RD 2019 CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED ORDINANCE NUMBER 23 71,

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WHICH CREATED A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PARTY EVENT. FACILITY INDOOR ONLY. IMAGE ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AN IMAGE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE ZONING BEING PART OF THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. JUST EAST OF MAIN STREET, NORTH OF CENTER STREET, SOUTH OF CHERRY STREET, WEST OF NORTH HASTINGS STREET. EIGHT MAILINGS WERE SENT OUT. WE HAD ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY VOTE OF 4 TO 0 ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM FIVE G TIMESTAMP. 11 16. IT'S NOT TIME FOR HIM TO. ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR ITS ITEM. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

UM MARIO VEGA 6 11 ORIOLE BOULEVARD. TAKE MY COMMENT FOR WHAT? YOU WILL THE IDEA THAT THERE THAT PEOPLE WILL PARK. THAT THEY CAN PARK AT THE BUILDING A BLOCK AWAY. UM JUST SEEMS UNLIKELY WHERE WHEN YOU DRIVE YOUR CAR, YOU DON'T MOST PEOPLE DON'T PARK JUST JUST AS A THOUGHT JUST TO WEIGH IN ON THAT , UM, MR ANDERSON, I BELIEVE OWNS THAT MAIN STREET STATION AND IT JUST SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT PEOPLE WALK A BLOCK, THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE. ANY INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. PLEASE GO FORWARD. THIS IS THE LAST TIME YOU'LL HEAR FROM ME TODAY, I PROMISE.

IT ONLY BRIDGES FOR 18 OLEANDER 75137. I. I DON'T APPROVE OF THE BARBER COLLEGE ITSELF AS WE HAVE OVER 15 HAIR PLACES ON MAIN STREET ALONE. NOT COUNTING CEDAR HILL ROAD. YOU KNOW, OVER IN WHEATLAND PLAZA. THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE. WE ARE SATURATED . IT WILL BE A PLACE THAT OFFERS SERVICE. IT'LL PROBABLY BE DISCOUNTED SERVICE BECAUSE THEY ARE STUDENTS. BUT I FEEL WITH BEN FRANKLIN COMING UP ON THE MARKET AND THIS BUILDING, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON MAIN STREET. I'M ALL FOR FURTHER EDUCATION, AND I'M ALSO FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO FIT THE VISION OF WHAT WE'RE WANTING MAIN STREET TO LOOK LIKE THANK YOU. ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE. CAROLYN ATTAINING MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO MOVED. EMOTIONAL CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING. MR MCBURNETT SECOND, MR VERA CRUZ COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE ON CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR CONTRERAS. AFFIRMATIVE THANK YOU. PRETTY APPROVED CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. 11 19. OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BY CITY COUNCIL, MR MCBURNETT THANK YOU, MR WARREN.

I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M SORRY. IS IT IS THAT WE ARE ONLY SENDING AN S U P THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S IT. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY IS WE'RE SENDING THE S U. P THE PORTION THAT WAS FOR APPROVING THE SCP FOR THE BARBER COLLEGE WAS TABLED AND IS NOT ON THIS ITEM TODAY. THAT WILL BE COMING IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. MR INSURERS HAS A STAND UP. MR CONTRERAS. THANK YOU. MR CONTRERAS. MR CONTRERAS. MR CONTRERAS, YOU CAN SPEAK. I HAD THE SAME QUESTION BECAUSE THE WAY THIS WORD IS IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS TWO IN ONE HERE. TO RESCIND AN EXISTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. TO ALLOW THE USE OF THE SCHOOL BUSINESS OR TRADE APPLICATIONS. IT'S CLEARLY ONLY TOURIST STAND. CORRECT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO UH, THE REQUEST WAS WAS INTENTIONALLY MEANT TO GO BACK TO BACK ITEM ONE TO RESCIND EXISTING SCP FOR THE PARTY EVENT

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FACILITY, AND THEN SECONDARILY WOULD BE TOO AH! TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW FOR A SCHOOL BUSINESS, TRADE OR VOCATIONAL USE BEING A BARBER COLLEGE TO OPERATE. THAT ITEM WAS UNACCEPTABLE WAS UNSUCCESSFUL. MOVING FORWARD IT WAS TABLED. AND SO WHAT IS BEFORE THE COUNCIL TODAY? IS TO RESCIND THE EXISTING SCP FOR A PARTY EVENT FACILITY. ANOTHER, MR KOONTZ. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO IF WE RESCIND THE S U P FOR THE EVENT CENTER. THEN IT RETURNS BACK TO DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. SEE NO FURTHER COMMENTS BY CITY COUNCIL TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND IMPROVEMENT. MR MCBURNETT SECONDED MEMBERS. VERA CRUZ COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE. MR CONTRERAS. AFFIRMATIVE. THANK YOU WILL BE APPROVED. FIVE H CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION

[5.H. Conduct a public hearing for consideration and action regarding the request of Katherine Jackson, applicant, representing Tommy Winn, owner, for a Zoning Change from DD, Downtown District to LOR, Local Office Retail District and adopt an ordinance to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance and map on AMG Merrill ABST 884, PG 075, TR 47, 48 & PT TR 43 ACS 0.834 and AMG Merrill ABST 884, PG 075, TR 42 ACS 0.4400, more commonly known as 210 and 214 South Main Street, in the City of Duncanville, Dallas County, Texas.]

REGARDING THE REQUEST OF KATHERINE JACKSON, APPLICANT REPRESENTING TOMMY WIN OWNER FOR A ZONING CHANGE FROM DOWNTOWN DT DISTRICT TO L O OUR LOCAL OFFICE RETAIL DISTRICT AND ADOPTED ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND MATH ON AMG, MARYLAND ABSTRACT 84 PAGES. 75 TRACKS 47. 48 AND PARTIAL CHECK 43 ACRES, 0.834 AND AM AND AMG MARROW ABSTRACT 884 PAGE 75 TRACK 42 ACRES 0.4400 MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS TO 10 TO 14 SOUTH MAIN STREET IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. MR WARREN FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR. THANK YOU, MR MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE REQUEST IS A ZONING CHANGE ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BEING 2 10 AND 2 14, SOUTH MAIN STREET. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS DESIGNATION IS OPPORTUNITY AREA 10 BEING THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT, DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE DISTRICT, URBAN LIVING FRONTAGE. PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT IS LOCAL OFFICE RETAIL. THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BEING LOCATED JUST NORTH OF EAST NAN STREET, WEST OF SOUTH FACING STREET AND SOUTH OF FREEMAN STREET, EAST OF MAIN STREET, JUST BY THE CURRENT LIBRARY. THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THAT IS IN THE HEART OF THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY THE BLUE IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. SO THIS IS AN IMAGE FROM OUR CONFERENCE OF PLAN SHOWING THE DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE MAIN STREET MASTER PLAN. YOU'LL NOTICE. IT'S IN SECTION E. THE PORTION ON THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND OF YOUR SCREEN MAIN STREET BETWEEN NANCE AND CENTER STREETS. SO THERE'S A CONSIDERATION TO BE HAD. THAT OBVIOUSLY, ANY ZONING CHANGE IS A DEVIATION FROM WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN OUR ZONING MAP IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT THIS ALSO TAKES PRECEDENT WITH OUR CONFERENCE OF ZONING. UH PLAN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATING THAT THE, UM. THERE IS A PLAN FOR MAIN STREET AND SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL DEVIATION. 15 MAILINGS WERE SENT OUT. THERE'S ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND WE RECEIVED NO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTS BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 0. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHARITY. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. TIMESTAMPS 11 24. ALL INDIVIDUALS WILL SEEM TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM. PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD EVENING, ELIZABETH GODFREY AND CATHERINE JACKSON, 2 10 AND 2 14 SOUTH MAIN STREET. WE JUST WANTED TO COME SPEAK IN FAVOR. I'VE PERSONALLY WORKED AT THE BUILDING FOR 20 YEARS NOW. AND THE ZONING CHANGE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT NOT TOO LONG AGO HAS CHANGED. WHO CAN LEAST FROM US, AND SO MOST OF THE TENANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN OUR BUILDING. SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN I HAVE. IF THEY WERE TO COME IN TODAY, THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE ABLE TO BE THERE. YOU KNOW, SMALL TAX OFFICES, SMALL INSURANCE OFFICES, COUNSELORS. UM, IT JUST RESTRICTS WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO LEASE TWO AND IT'S HINDERING US BEING ABLE TO KEEP A FULL BUILDING THAT'S BEEN A GOOD ENVIRONMENT. WE HAD A TENANT WHO HAD A SWEET WANTED TO EXPAND HER BUSINESS AND MOVE INTO ONE OF OUR LARGEST SWEETS. AND COULDN'T BECAUSE NOW WITH THE CHANGE. THEY'RE NO LONGER ELIGIBLE TO BE IN OUR BUILDING IF THEY WERE TO MOVE OUT OF THEIR SWEET AND SO WE'RE JUST

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HOPING YOU'LL GRANT THIS CHANGE. SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK TO BUSINESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE THE APPLICANTS CORRECT. MR WARREN IS DOWN TO UNDERSTAND THEM TO SAY THEY ARE THE APPLICANTS. OKAY.

THANK YOU, OKAY. SAYING NO ONE ELSE ANY INDIVIDUAL WOULD ANY INDIVIDUAL WISHING TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEN NONE. THE CHAIRMAN OF THE MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO MOVED SECOND MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR MCBURNETT SECONDMENT, MR KOONTZ CLOSED PUBLIC HEARING VOTE, PLEASE. MR CONTRERAS AFFIRMATIVE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. TIMESTAMP 11 26. OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BY CITY COUNCIL, MR WARREN. MR COHEN'S.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH IF COULD YOU GO BACK? THERE WAS A CHART OR THERE WAS A MAP THAT SHOWED THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. SHOW THE S. THERE'S A MESS UPS ALREADY. IN THE AREA. IT'S EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER THAT ONE. THE ZONING? YES. THAT ONE. WHAT . WHAT ARE THOSE S UPS THERE FOR NOW? UH I BELIEVE. AH, SOME OF IT IS MAIN STATION. HMM AND A AUTOMOTIVE USE OR A EXISTING AUTOMOTIVE USE. OKAY? IS MAIN STATION IS AT A EASTERN MULTI USE OR. WHAT'S THE S U P FOR ON MAIN STATION. I THINK THERE'S A VARIOUS, UH, USES THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE UM HAVE A SPECIFIC USE PERMITS. I BELIEVE ONE. MAYBE THE TATTOO SHOP. CIGAR SHOP, I THINK IS ANOTHER ONE. I'M NOT. I DON'T. I DON'T HAVE THE CONFERENCE OF THIS. I APOLOGIZE AND THEN TO THE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET FROM THAT THERE'S ANOTHER ONE RIGHT THERE. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SOUTH HASTINGS. UM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SOUTH HASTINGS STREET. YES, SIR. EAST SIDE EAST SIDE. YES.

UM I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SPECTRUM. STORE. OH, THAT'S OKAY. MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY. IT'S THE WHAT THE SPECTRUM STORE. THE SPECTRUM. INTERNET AND, UH OH. FACILITY FACILITY. YEAH, THANK YOU. THAT MIGHT DIE FACILITY, SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, BECAUSE THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT AND. SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE APPLICANT OR OR THE USES.

THEY MIGHT. BE WANTING OR NEEDING. BUT YOU AND I ARE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE'VE GOT, OF COURSE, DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE. AND IT'S STARTING TO GET KIND OF SPOTTY WITH. THE ZONING BECAUSE THERE ARE QUITE A NUMBER OF S U. P S STARTING TO POP UP HERE AND THERE. LOCAL OFFICE RETAIL AND.

AGAIN. THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT FOR DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE AND TRYING TO GET BACK TO WHATEVER VISION THAT WE HAD FOUR DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE.

IT'S SOME POINT. WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THE VISION IS. BECAUSE THE MORE OF THE SPOT ZONING WE DO AND THE MORE THE S UPS WE PUT ALONG THERE IN THE MAIN STREET CORRIDOR AS WELL. THE FURTHER WE GET AWAY FROM ANY VISION THAT WE HAD FOR WHAT WE WANTED DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE TO LOOK LIKE. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

AND HONESTLY, I'M HAVING TROUBLE. VISUALIZING THE ORIENTATION, AND I KNOW HE JUST SAID THAT BACK THERE ON HASTINGS IS THE SPECTRUM FACILITY. WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET. DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE FROM THE TWO PROPERTIES FROM 2 10 TO 14. TO THE TO THE WEST. THAT'S FIRST CHRISTIAN CHURCH. OKAY NOW I KNOW WE'RE AT NOW. I KNOW WE'RE OK. OKAY? AND SO, UM IF I MAY HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANTS AGAIN. SO IT YOU MENTIONED THAT SOME OF THE TENANTS HAVE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN YOU'VE OWNED THE BUILDING ITSELF. AND WHAT YOU SEE, THEN

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YOU HAVE SOME VACANCIES THAT CAN'T BE FILLED BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED, AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE CHANGE. IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR, WE'VE HAD TO TURN THAT AWAY SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. BECAUSE THEY NO LONGER FIT. WHAT IS ALLOWED IN OUR BUILDING. AND SO WE WERE HOPING TO GO BACK TO WHERE IT'S THE NORMAL. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, COUNSELORS. THEY DO TELEHEALTH VISITS. THEY UH, SMALL COUNSELING TAX OFFICE. UM PHOTOGRAPHER. UM THE WOMAN THAT JUST MOVED. THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. YOU NEED TO GET THE MICROPHONE, SO WE'LL PICK YOU UP. THANK YOU JUST MOVED. THAT WANTED TO EXPAND HER BUSINESS. I MEAN, SHE WAS A CPR INSTRUCTOR. BUT YOU KNOW, HER CLIENTELE JUST GOTTEN TOO LARGE . AND SO YOU KNOW, HER SWEET WASN'T BIG ENOUGH, BUT WE COULDN'T KEEP HER IN OUR BUILDING. SO WE FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST KEEPING A LOT OF REALLY GOOD. THINGS OUT OF DUNCANVILLE.

MY RECOLLECTION OF THE BUILDINGD FROM THE OUTSIDE. I THINK YOU'D HOW RECENTLY HAVE YOU DONE SOME WORK ON THE OUTSIDE OF THAT BUILDING? IT LOOKS GOOD FROM WHAT I RECALL. THE SECOND TIME THEY'VE REPAINTED IT RIGHT, RIGHT, PROBABLY WITHIN THREE YEARS AGO. OKAY? AND I WANTED COMPLETING ABOUT THIS, MR COONS , AND I DO AGREE THAT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT WE DO WITH DOWNTOWN AND LOCAL OFFICE RETAIL, BUT HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY ASSIST SOME OF OUR LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS AND PROPERTY OWNERS, AND WE CAN BE CAREFUL AND IT'S ASSISTING YOU IN. WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS I SAID THIS BUILDING DOES LOOK GOOD. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIT IN WHAT WE PERCEIVED AS THE VISION FOR DOWNTOWN AS WELL. SO LOOKING AT THIS, I UNDERSTAND THE ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND THEN NECESSITY FOR SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS ONE THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD ONE. AND WHEN DO I BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL BE CAREFUL AND CONTINUE TAKING GOOD CARE OF IT, SO IT DOES LOOK GOOD FOR OUR DOWNTOWN. COUNCIL MEMBER COOTS ARE CONTROLLERS HAS HIS HAND UP, MR CONTRERAS? YES, SIR. YEAH. SOLAR HAS. DOING? MAJOR REPAIRS TO THIS BUILDING, AND HE'S KEPT IT LOOKING GOOD. MY BIG ISSUE. SKIN. WE RUN INTO THE I THINK OVERLY RESTRICT. HEART EFFECT ON THE LOT. OUTSIDE RENOVATIONS, WHICH TAKE MANY VARIANCES TO GET. THIS ONE. GREAT BRITAIN FOR A DIFFERENT CITY, NOT. THIS USES THESE USE CHANGES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE GOING BACK TO BECAUSE AT ONE TIME I HAVE THESE THINGS. ABOUT THIS. BUT WE'RE SEEING WE'RE WITNESSING. BUT IT'S DOING TOO GOOD BUSINESSES THAT CAN OTHERWISE OCCUPIED THE PLACES AND GROW. SO ABOUT YOUR PAPER. THIS REQUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IN A MR QUINCE. THANK YOU. SO UH, MR WARREN. WHAT NEW USES WOULD BE WE'D BE INTRODUCING TO THIS. IF WE REZONE IT, LOCAL OFFICE RETAIL ALL THE LOCAL OFFICE RETAIL USES THAT ARE PERMITTED. AH, THE MAIN ONE. THAT'S A DISCUSSION. IS A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE LOCAL SCALE. AND IN THIS USE IT IS THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USES ARE BROKEN UP INTO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. LOCAL SKILL, NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE REGIONAL SCALE BASED OFF OF THE SIZE OF THE OF THE SPACE UNDER 10,000 SQUARE FEET IS LOCAL SCALE, WHICH IS LARGELY WITH, UH THERE'S THE ROADBLOCK HERE BECAUSE URBAN LIVING DOES NOT ALLOW THAT USE EVEN WITHIN SCP PROHIBITED AND THAT'S WHERE WE RUN INTO. AH THESE ISSUES SIMILAR TO THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE A CLINIC JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS BUILDING. UM SO THAT'S THAT'S THE PRIMARY. REQUEST. TO THAT'S A AND FOR, BUT YES MORE USES WILL BE ALLOWED THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY PERMITTED. AND THE DUNCANVILLE DISTRICT. URBAN LIVING FRONTAGE I SUPPOSED TO COMMENTS PREVIOUSLY MADE UH UM. THAT THEY IS IT IS RESTRICTIVE BY NATURE.

UM SO THAT'S THE DECISION THAT'S PROPER FOR YOU TODAY TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM DOWNTOWN RESTRICTIVE. ADMITTEDLY DOWNTOWN DUNCANVILLE DISTRICT, URBAN LIVING FRONTAGE. TWO. LOCAL OFFICE RETAIL WHICH ALLOWS MORE USES BY RIGHT UM AT THE SUBJECT LOCATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

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SEEING NO MORE COMMENTS, GERALD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. SO MOVED MOTION TO PROVE IT, MR MCBURNETT 2ND 2ND WITH MR VERA CRUZ COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE. MR CONTRERAS. MR CONTRERAS. MR CONTRERAS, ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE? OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THAT'S AN AFFIRMATIVE. OKAY I WAS WATCHING MR CONTRERAS. I DID NOT SEE WHAT WE HAD UP HERE. OKAY TO VOTE OF 6 TO 1. THE MOTION IS APPROVED.

THANK YOU. YEAH, OKAY. AH! FOLKS IF YOU TURN YOURSELF BACK IN YOUR AGENDA, WE ARE NOW GOING TO ITEMS FOR F. FOR I AND FOUR J. ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. CONSIDERED RESOLUTION

[4.F. Consider a resolution authorizing a Grant of Hotel Occupancy Tax Funds from the Fiscal Year 2022-23 Budget in an amount not to exceed $25,000 to ALW Entertainment.]

AUTHORIZING A GRANT OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUNDS FROM THE FISCAL YEAR 22 23 BUDGET AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $25,000 TO LW ENTERTAINMENT. MR MCBURNETT, I BELIEVE THIS WAS YOUR REQUEST.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DIDN'T UM, MAKE MY REQUEST ON THIS. UM. I GUESS, MR MANTLE OR MR BREWER.

YEAH I TRUST THE APPLICANT IS NOT WITH US. WELL WE HAVE A REFERENCE. WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE WITH US FROM ENTERTAINMENT. YES, SIR. WELL, LET THEM GET SET UP HERE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, THOUGH.

WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, JUST AS A NOTE TO COUNSEL UM BY CHARTER. AND RULES OF PROCEDURE. IF WE ARE GOING TO BEYOND MIDNIGHT, THERE MUST BE A VOTE TAKEN TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. WE CANNOT JUST ARBITRARILY ROLL PAST MIDNIGHT. BECAUSE COGNISANT OF TIME IF NECESSARY. WELL MR MAYOR , IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO BEGIN SINCE I PROVIDED, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH WE'VE GOT OUR PAPERWORK. WE CAN FOLLOW YOU GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, SIR. UM ALSO, I DO HAVE A MR OLD WITH BAIT BAITS WITH LW ENTERTAINMENT. THE APPLICANT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS TONIGHT, UM. AS YOU KNOW, THE DUNCANVILLE CLASSIC FOOTBALL OR THE DOGVILLE FOOTBALL CLASSIC IS A CORNERSTONE. EVENTS HERE IN DUNCANVILLE, PARTICULARLY IN OUR TOURISM SECTOR. UM IT IS A SHOWCASE BETWEEN OUR DEDUCTIBLE PANTHERS AND SOME OF THE TOP TALENT IN THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL. UM IN 2018, 2019 AND 2021. THE DUNCANVILLE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED $25,000 EACH, UM EACH YEAR TO LW ENTERTAINMENT ADVERTISE AND TO PROMOTE THE DUNK OF A FOOTBALL CLASSIC. OF COURSE WITH 2020 COVID. THERE WAS NOT A GAME THERE AND THEN IN 2022. THE CLASSIC WAS BETWEEN THE DUNGHILL HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM AND THE DUNCAN OR THE RISOTTO HIGH SCHOOL TEAM. UM, AS BOTH PARTIES WANTED THE EVENT AND THEIR CITIES, THEY CHOSE NEUTRAL GROUND AND FORT WORTH. THIS IS. AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HOST IT. HERE IN THE CITY AGAIN, THE PANTHERS WILL BE PLAYING. THANK YOU. PARDON? THIS YEAR, THE CLASSIC WILL BE BETWEEN THE REIGNING STATE CHAMPIONS HERE IN TEXAS VERSUS ROCK LEDGE HIGH SCHOOL. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, ON THE LEFT. UM WE ARE RANKS OF COURSE, NUMBER ONE AS WELL AS SEVENTH IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY AND HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL. UM NO OFFENSE TO ROCK LEDGE, BUT I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK THEY COMPARE SO THERE SHOULD BE A EXCELLENT GAME THIS YEAR. THEY'RE STILL VERY COMPETITIVE. UM BUT I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY WE'RE BETTER. UM HERE. IT'S A TRADITION IN THE MAKING. UM TRULY IS A COARSE STONE. THIS IS THE 1998 STATE CHAMPIONS BEING HONORED AT THE 2018 GAME. BENEFITS TO DUNCANVILLE IN 2018 52 ROOMS WERE RESERVED AND USED. THIS INCREASED IN 2019 INCREASING EVEN FURTHER IN 2021 WHEN WE PLAYED AGAINST MATTER DAY HIGH

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SCHOOL AT A CALIFORNIA HE WAS RANKED NUMBER ONE. SO IT WAS. IT WAS MY FIRST TIME AT THE DONE WELL CLASSIC, AND IT WAS A MAYBE NOT THE WAY WE WANTED TO GO, BUT IT WAS STILL GOOD FOOTBALL. UM FOR THOSE WHO REMEMBER, UM, AND THIS YEAR, 250 ROOMS HAVE BEEN RESERVED TOTALING 500 PEOPLE FOR THE GAME AGAINST ROCKLEDGE 9000 . PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED TO ATTEND THE EVENT AT A TICKET PRICE BETWEEN 8 TO $12.22 PERCENT OF THE PARTICIPANTS ARE EXPECTED TO BE FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY. THE TRAVELING TEAM IS CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED. TO STAY IN DUNCANVILLE HOTELS. JUST TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN TRACK TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS EVENT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX REQUIREMENTS. IN RELATIONS TO BRINGING IN TOURISM AND HELPING OUR TOURISM SECTOR PLACE OR A I IS A PHENOMENAL TAUGHT TRACKING THIS SO YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM A QUARTERLY UPDATE MAY NOT YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO, WE DID THIS SHORTLY AFTER 13,000 PEOPLE ATTENDED THE FOOTBALL GAME. ON AUGUST 27TH 2021. AND ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WERE ABLE TO SEE WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SEE FROM THE TRAVELING TEAM IN CALIFORNIA WHERE THEY CAME FROM. THEY CAME FROM, OF COURSE, THE SANTA ANNA AREA WHERE MATTER DAY HIGH SCHOOL IS LOCATED, AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO SEE HERE EVEN IN OUR METROPLEX WHERE WE SAW TRAVELERS COMING FROM AND AS YOU CAN SEE, QUITE LITERALLY FROM ALL OVER THE METROPLEX TO WITNESS OUR OUR FOOTBALL CLASSIC. UM LW ENTERTAINMENT IS A FULL SERVICE ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY BEST KNOWN FOR NATIONAL PRODUCTIONS AND PROMOTIONS OF MUSIC. THEY ALSO PROMOTE THE STATE FAIR CLASSIC FOOTBALL GAME, WHICH IS THE THIRD LARGEST ATTENDANT HBC RIVALRY IN THE COUNTRY AND HAS CROWDS OVER 60,000 IN ATTENDANCE. THEY ALSO ASSISTED IN THE PROMOTION OF JUNETEENTH. THEY HANDLED THE ENTERTAINMENT THAT WE HAD UM AND SO WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM OF THE $25,000 10,000 WILL BE SPENT ON RADIO, PRINT AND BILLBOARD ADVERTISING. OF THE MARKETING AND PROMOTION, THE EVENT AND THE ORLANDO FLORIDA MARKET. THIS IS WHERE ROCK LEDGE IS IN AND THE MARKETING AREA AND 15,000 WILL BE SPENT ON RADIO PRINTING ADVERTISING HERE IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX. THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX REQUIREMENTS. ONE OF THE QUALIFIED EXPENDITURES IS MARKETING PROMOTION AND. ANY TOOL REALLY, TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THE EVENT, SO EVERYTHING IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THE FOOTBALL CLASSIC WILL BE SEPTEMBER 2ND OF THIS YEAR. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO REMINDING EVERYONE WHY WE'RE THE CITY OF CHAMPIONS. SO GO PANTHERS. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. OKAY? MR MACK BURNETT. YEAH THANK YOU, MR MANDELA, ACTUALLY FOR THE APPLICANT. THE QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I SAW THAT. YOU KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HERE 2018 2019. 2020 WAS COVID YEAR, 2021. WHAT HAPPENED IN 2022. I BELIEVE 2022 WAS A GAME THAT WE HAVE WITH THE SCHOOL THAT WAS CANCELED, SO WE JUST TOOK THE LOSSES OF THAT GAME. WE JUST MOVED ON TO THE NEXT YEAR. WHO. WHO WHO SETS UP THE COMPETITION. WE WORK WITH MAX PREPS, BUT OUR OWNER, AL WASH, ACTUALLY SETS UP THE COMPETITION. HE WORKS WITH THE DUNCANVILLE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT.

TO HAVE THEM APPROVED THE SCHOOL. AND ALSO HOW MANY TICKETS ARE ACTUALLY SOLD FOR THIS AND THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING THIS IS IT? I AM A BIG DUNCANVILLE FOOTBALL SUPPORTER AND INTENDED THE GAMES AND IT LOOK LIKE THE. I SAW LINES OF PEOPLE. THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GET INTO THE GAME. THAT HAD BOUGHT TICKETS AND IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS OVERSOLD. AND. PEOPLE COULDN'T GET IN UNTIL ABOUT HALFTIME AND THAT STUFF, SO I'M WONDERING WHAT'S WHAT PRECAUTIONS OR WHAT'S BEING USED OR HOUSES. THEM BEING PROMOTED. IN TERMS OF TICKET SALES AS WELL. IT'S NEVER OVER SOLD MORE THAN THE STADIUM. WE ACTUALLY DO THE SALES THROUGH DUNCANVILLE HIGH SCHOOL, SO THERE IS A SYSTEM THAT THE TICKETS ARE SOLD ON THEIR SYSTEM FOR THAT STADIUM SO THAT IT CAN'T BE OVERSOLD. UM, I THINK WHAT THE LINES THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE TICKET TAKING AT THE GATES, BUT I THINK THE SCHOOLS TAKING CARE OF THAT PROBLEM, SO IT WON'T BE OVERSOLD WITH THE DUNCANVILLE GAME. WE KIND OF RINSE AND REPEAT WHAT WE DO WITH THE STATE FAIR CLASSIC WITH THE STATE FRED CLASSIC GAME. WE PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND WE PROMOTE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY TO HIGHLIGHT THE CITY OF DALLAS. SO WITH DUNCANVILLE, WE DO THE SAME THING. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A TICKET CUT OFF WITH THE AMOUNT OF TICKETS THAT WE CAN SELL.

THANK YOU. MR COONS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UH. THERE ARE SOME, UH SOME

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UNRESOLVED ISSUES SURROUNDING. GRANTS FOR THESE KINDS OF EVENTS, SO I WILL BE OPPOSED TO THIS. SAYING NO MORE COMMENTS BY CITY COUNCIL CHAIRMAN TENDER MOTION TO APPROVE SO MOVED.

SECOND WASHINGTON APPROVE MR MCBURNETT SEGMENT, MR VERACRUZ COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE. WE HAVE AFFIRMATIVE FROM MR CONTRERAS. THE VOTE IS 6 TO 1. THANK YOU. APPROVED. THANK YOU.

MOVING ON TO ITEM FOR H CONSIDERED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A PERSONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT OF BANKRUPT CONCILIATION SERVICES WITH MY ACCOUNT. I'M SORRY WE GOT ABOUT 10 MINUTES BEFORE MIDNIGHT. DO WE WANT TO? TAKE ANY ACTION BEFORE WE START. ANOTHER ITEM. I TEND TO AGREE WITH MR KOONTZ, JUST IN THE EVENT OF. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

MR COATES, YOU WANT TO QUIT? NO I'M SAYING WE HAVE TO TAKE AN ACTION. IF WE'RE GOING TO GO PAST MIDNIGHT. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE THAT DECISION ROLL PAST MIDNIGHT, SO WELL, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH IT AGAIN. YOU KNOW, TWO MINUTES TILL WE CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO GO. WE'RE WASTING TIME. FOR I CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PERSONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT. BANK RECORDS SILLY ATION SERVICES WITH ACCOUNTING BOOKKEEPING SERVICES IN THE UNIT, ABOUT WITH AN ESTIMATED END WILL EXPENDITURE AMOUNT. $90,000 I KNOW THAT THE THIS WAS REQUESTED. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO REQUESTED THIS ONE. BUT I DID MR MCBURNETT AS YOURS. THANK YOU. REALLY, I GUESS. ONE OF MY ISSUES WITH THIS IS AND. MR C MANAGER IS THAT CONSIDERING OUR FINANCIAL CONSIDER. ISSUES AND STUFF RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT SHOWS ME WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR US IN THE PAST. I DON'T KNOW HOW AND WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST ROUTINE. UM, UPDATES OR PROGRESS. IF THIS COMPANY IS GOING TO BE IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS COMPANY. WELL I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. COUNCIL MEMBER MIKE BURNETT. THIS ALLOWS US TO ACTUALLY APPOINT NEW REPRESENTATIVES. WHO CAN MAKE DECISIONS REGARDING, UM CITI'S INVESTMENT. AND SO IF WE DO NOT APPOINT NEW REPRESENTATIVES, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR. ITEM. SO I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE NEW PEOPLE. THAT ARE DESIGNATED SO THAT WE CAN, UM WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WHEN WE ALREADY ABLE TO DO SO. I AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT. I JUST THEY NEED TO COME WITH ME. I THINK WHAT THEY NEED FOR US SOME KIND OF PLAN OF ACTION AND WHAT THEIR TIMELINE IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET US THERE.

I THINK HE IS TALKING ABOUT BAY AS WELL BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WHERE YOU WERE TRYING TO USE THEIR SERVICES. IS THAT CORRECT, SIR? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BAY. AS WELL. FOR ITEM IS THE ITEM THAT WE'RE ON. YES SIR. I KNOW THAT. BUT I WAS CONFIRMING WITH MR BROWN BECAUSE OUR CITY ATTORNEY THOUGHT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER ITEM. ARE WE CLEAR THEM? WE'RE TALKING. WE'RE WE ARE ON THE FORUM ITEM FOUR H, WHICH IS BIG ACCOUNTING, ACCOUNTING AND BOOKKEEPING ITEM THAT WE'RE ON.

I'M SORRY. I. OKAY SO WE'RE ON MY MR BROWN. THIS TIME. H. H H. I RIGHT. I. ITEM FOUR. I. YES

[4.I. Consider a Resolution authorizing a personal service agreement of bank reconciliation services with Bey Accounting & Bookkeeping Services (Attachment 1) in the unit amount with an estimated annual expenditure amount of ninety thousand dollars $90,000.00.]

ALL RIGHT. SO REAL QUICKLY, UM. STAFF FULLY UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING THE AUDIT COMPLETE. AND MS BAE HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH MS HICKMAN. AND I WANTED TO GET THAT

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ACCOMPLISHED. UH I'M VERY PLEASED WITH HER WORK. SHE IS A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT. AND I THINK SHE HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH JENNIFER OTAY TO HELP US IDENTIFY REVENUES FOR THE CITY. UM AND UM. SHE STAYED BECAUSE I THINK SHE'S DOING A GOOD JOB. I'VE ASKED. ONE CONTRACTOR ACTUALLY TO THE LEAGUE BECAUSE WE COULD NOT DETERMINE SPECIFICALLY HOW THEY WERE BENEFITING THE CITY. AND SO WE'VE NOT ASKED HER TO LEAVE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT SHE IS DOING A GOOD JOB FOR US. AND SO AGAIN, WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING THE AUDIT COMPLETED. I THINK THAT'S MISS BAY. IN HER ACCOUNTING AND BOOKKEEPING SERVICE OF HEALTH IN THAT REGARD. RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS HICKMAN, I'LL ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. WE APPARENTLY HAD A CONTRACT WITH THEM. UH, AND I JUST LIKE TO KNOW HOW AND HOW THAT'S BEEN USED. HOW WHAT? WHAT? WHAT RESULTS HAVE WE GOTTEN? OKAY SO THE RESULTS WITH MS BAY HAVE BEEN, UM BAST CHEESE , GOT THE BACKGROUND AND MUNIS. I DON'T HAVE A BACKGROUND IN MUNIS, AND SHE'S BEEN TRAINING AT SOME UNITS. UM SHE'S HELPED US GO THROUGH AND IDENTIFY, UM, CHANGES THAT WE NEEDED TO DO TO THE DATABASE IN MUNIS. WE'VE MADE CHANGES IN THE BANK RECONCILIATION MODULE, WHICH WE DIDN'T USE BECAUSE WE COULD NOT GET IT TO WORK. SHE'S ACTUALLY WORKED AT A AT AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S ACTUALLY UTILIZE THE MUNIS BANK RECONCILIATION MODULE AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COPY OF A RESUME IN YOUR IN YOUR PACKET . UM AND IN ADDITION TO THAT WE'VE MADE CHANGES THROUGH THE UNIT UTILITY BUILDING MODULE. UM AND THESE WERE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION. OF THE MUNICIPAL, HM. WE'VE ALSO MADE. WE'VE MADE NUMEROUS CHANGES IN ACCOUNTS PAYABLE AND THOSE ARE DOCUMENTED, AND I BELIEVE YOU'VE SEEN THOSE IN THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THE DIFFERENT CASES THAT WE'VE PUT UP. SO SHE'S GOT THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH MUNIS. THE COMPANY THAT SHE WORKED FOR. SHE WORKED THERE FOR THE ORGANIZATION THAT SHE WORKED FOR, WHICH WAS A GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION OF SCHOOL DISTRICT . THEY HAVE BEEN USING YOU.

NISSEN'S 2009. SO THAT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO ME, MY STAFF AND EVEN THE PREVIOUS MANAGEMENT PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE AND THEN SHE'S GOT SOME OF THE ABILITY TO WORK SPECIFICALLY ON SOME OF THE HOT TOPICS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE AUDIT SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON CURRENT OPERATIONS AND WE'RE NOT WAY LAID UP AND TRYING TO WORK ON THE AUDIT AND TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE CURRENT OPERATION. SORRY. THEY'RE DOING MORE THAN BANK RECONCILIATION. SO I'VE HEARD YOU MENTION TRAINING TRAINING AND THAT KIND OF LIKE THAT, AND THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF I'M GONNA SAY. GIVEN OUR SITUATION THAT WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW. WHAT'S GOING ON. AND WHAT THE SCOPE IS AND AGAIN. THAT'S WHY MY QUESTION OR QUALIFICATIONS. I'M SAYING WHAT ARE WE WHAT ARE WE GETTING ACCOMPLISHED? RIGHT AND WE'RE WE'RE BEYOND MISSION CRITICAL.

WITH THIS STUFF, AND IT'S. IT'S I MEAN, I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CITY AND ITS FINANCIAL SITUATION THAT WERE LEFT IN AND IT'S LIKE IF WE NEED TO GET THIS STUFF. UH I DON'T CARE IF PEOPLE HAVE TO WORK AROUND THE CLOCK OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO. THIS STUFF NEEDS TO GET RESOLVED ASAP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M TERRY BROWN. SO I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CHANGE. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING, AND I THINK TO CHANGE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF STREAM WITH SOMEONE ELSE IS ONLY GONNA SET US BACK, SO I'M MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD.

WITH THIS ITEM. THERE. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEIR SECOND. THANK YOU. SECOND ONE, MR BIRD, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE THE COMMENT MERITS NOT ABOUT NOT MOVING FORWARD. THIS IS THIS IS ABOUT MAKING SURE WE ARE GOING FORWARD BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY HISTORY OF WHAT'S BEEN ACCOMPLISHED. THANK YOU. AND YES , I UNDERSTAND THAT AND ALSO DO UNDERSTAND FROM MR BROWN'S APPROACH TO THIS IS IT BECAUSE WE ARE IN MISSION CRITICAL. HE IS LOOKING TO A THIRD PARTY TO OUTSOURCE BANK RECONCILIATIONS. I THINK IN THE OUTSOURCING OF THE BANK RECONCILIATIONS, IT'S GOING TO TAKE US AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE TO COMPLETE THOSE THAT WE ARE GOOD FOR AN AUDIT. AM I CORRECT IN THAT ASSUMPTION, MR BROWN? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE

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A MOTION TO APPROVE. AND WE HAVE A SECOND AND AS SOON AS WE'RE DONE WITH THIS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A MOTION TO GO PAST MIDNIGHT. PLEASE VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR MOTION. MR CONTRERAS.

MR CONTRERAS. APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN ENTERTAINING MOTION TO GO PAST MIDNIGHT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, SO MOVED. WE HAVE A MOTION TO GO PAST MIDNIGHT BY MR KOONTZ, THE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Jul 18, 2023 City Council

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