Dec 06, 2022 City Council

[WORK SESSION / BRIEFING]

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GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. TIME IS EXACTLY SIX O'CLOCK DECEMBER. 6TH 22 WELCOME, CONVENING OUR BRIEFING OF WORK SESSION OR WORK SESSION BRIEFING SESSION OR HOWEVER YOU WISH TO IDENTIFIED PARTICULAR TIME OF THE DAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND WITH THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A GUARD. AH LET'S SEE SENT ITEMS. YES MANAGER, PLEASE . GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AGENDA. TODAY WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS. I DON'T CONSIDER APPROVAL OF DRAFT CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FOLLOWING CITY COUNCIL REGULAR STATE COUNCIL MEETING SEPTEMBER 20TH SPECIAL CALLED CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SEPTEMBER 26TH REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF OCTOBER 18TH AND OUR RETREAT FOR MEETING ON OCTOBER 26 THROUGH 20 GAMES. I DON'T WANT TO BE. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING OF COOPERATIVE PERSON AGREEMENT WITH VORTEX COMPANIES FOR TAX INFRASTRUCTURE HOLDING LPC USING INTER LOCAL PURCHASING SYSTEM TIPS. CONTRACT TWO OH 110401 FOR PIPER'S YOU WATER. WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE CONTRACT AMOUNT OF $448,264. AND AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION OF $44,826.45, A CONTINGENCY EQUALING 10% OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT PRICE FOR TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 493,000. $19.95 PROVIDES FOR THE PIPER.

APPROXIMATELY 3700 FT OF SANITARY SORE MAIN ALONG JOHNSON STREET, FLAMINGO WAY EACH YEAR, E STREET AND VARIOUS STREETS IN FOREST TELEVISION PROJECT WILL REPAIR STRUCTURAL AND PASSED THE DEFICIENCIES OF HIS CURRENT SEWER AND PREVENT RAINWATER AND GROUNDWATER INFLOW AND INFILTRATION. ADDITIONALLY PIPE BURSTING WILL REDUCE SANITARY STORE OVER CLOSED TO HIS TREATMENT CALLS AND FUTURE SOURCE SYSTEM MAINTENANCE COSTS . VORTEX COMPANY IS HEADQUARTERED IN HOUSTON, TEXAS . THEY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY PERFORMED SERVICES FOR THE CITY DURING THE PAST THREE FISCAL YEARS. ITEM FOUR C. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF A MASTER IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN DALLAS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, PERTAINING TO ROAD AND BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION RELATED TO IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE ON OUR ABOUT CERTAIN DESIGNATED ROADWAY SITUATED WITHIN THE TERRITORY, WITNESS DUNCAN THIS ITEM APPROVES THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE MASTER INTO LOCAL AGREEMENT. DALLAS COUNTY FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE TRANSPORTATION RELATED TO IMPROVEMENT AND ARE MAKING THE AGREEMENT OUTLINES DOCUMENTS, RESPONSIBILITIES AND EXPECTATIONS. DALLAS COUNTY PERFORMED WORK AND ROAD MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES AND EXTENDS THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST 2027 PROJECT. SPECIFIC CONTRACTS WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR EACH MAINTENANCE PROJECTS UNDER THE MASTER INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT. FOUR D CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF LIBRARY MATERIAL BOOKS AS NEEDED FROM BROAD DART COMPANY THROUGH THE TEXAS MULTI AWARD SCHEDULED T X M. A S CONTRACT NUMBER SEVEN ONE FIVE DASH M TWO ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES EXPENDITURE OF $68,800.65. THERE WE GO. THE LIBRARY HAS BEEN PURCHASING BOOKS, UH, FROM THIS COMPANY FOR OVER 19 YEARS, VARIOUS CORPORATE CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN UTILIZED IN THE RECENT YEARS. PRIMARY TEXAS CONTROLS OFFICE CONTRACT IS EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 31ST 2023 OFFERS DISCOUNTS FROM LIST PRICE STAFF ESTIMATES CONTRACT EXPENDITURES OF THE NEXT 12 MONTHS TO BE $65,800 FY 22 SPENT $69,900 UTILIZING THE SAME CONTRACT. JUST ONE COMING. I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE CITY MANAGER INSTEAD LOOKING AT THE IDENTIFICATION OF EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. BROUGHT TO MIND THAT WE PERSONALLY DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH OF COLOR BRILLIANCE PRODUCED REQUIRED TO THAT SLOT. BECAUSE OF THE YOU LOOKED AT THAT AS ATTACHMENTS THAT WE HAVE EACH OTHER FILINGS CATEGORIES OF ALL THE MATERIALS. THAT IS A LOT OF WORK TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE TO BRING THOSE INTO OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE EDUCATION OF OUR CITIZENS. I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL THING TO MENTION, TOO, THAT HONEY. ITEM 40 CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE APPROACHES OF UNIFORMS AND UNIFORM ACCESSORIES FROM IMPACT . EMOTIONAL SERVICE. CALC C D D A GOT YOU COVERED WORK WORKWEAR AND UNIFORM INK THROUGH BY BOARD . CONTRACT NUMBER 6 70-22 FOR A DISCOUNTED UNIT PRICE BID WITH AN ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE AMOUNT OF 89,000 POLICE AND FIRE BOTH PURCHASED THE NECESSARY UNIFORMS FOR FIRST RESPONDERS THROUGH IMPACT PROMOTIONAL SERVICES. GOT YOU COVERED, PROVIDES UNIFORM PRICING THROUGH BY BOARD CONTRACT NUMBER SIX. OH, 7 22, ALTHOUGH THE BY BOARD CONTRACT IN 31 2023, THE CONTRACT DOES HAVE A 2 TO 1 YEAR RENEWAL

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THANK YOU. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PURPOSE OF WIRELESS AND DATA SERVICES FROM SELKOE PARTNERSHIP. VERIZON WIRELESS, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION SOURCE DE IR CONTRACT THE I R A T E L P THEIR C T A S A DASH FREE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF 375,000 OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THE CITY HAS USED A VARIETY OF HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE RELATED SERVICES FOR WIRELESS POINTS OF DATA THROUGH CELL PHONES, DATA PLANS FOR USE OUT IN THE FIELD AND DEPARTMENTS AND ONE OF THE THIS IS THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE COMMITTEE CONTRACTS THAT HAVE BEEN SEPARATE, AND WE FIND THAT FROM PURCHASING STANDPOINT HAS ALLOWS US A BETTER USE. AND SO THESE ARE ALL INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS AND JUST WANT THE WIRELESS WESTIN DAVIS SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE FOR CELLPHONE PARTNERSHIP. DOING BUSINESS WITH OUR RISING WILDEST THROUGH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION RESOURCES COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH THIS CONTRACT EXPIRATION DATE OF NOVEMBER 2029 CONTRACT CONVERSATION, EQUIPMENT AND SERVICES WITH WRITING UNPRICED COVERS THE ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES FOR OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WHICH THE ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES FOR THIS YEAR IS MY T 4000. AND SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS WE WERE INDIVIDUALLY PURCHASING. ITEMS FROM DIFFERENT VENDORS ARE THE SAME VENDORS. AND SO THE STATE HAS A PREARRANGED CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS US TO CONSOLIDATE AND YOU'RE BETTER TRACKING OF WHAT OUR EXPENDITURES UNDER THE CONTRACT. SO WHAT? WITH THAT ESTIMATED DOLLAR AMOUNT WILL, UM, REPORTEDLY MILLION DOLLARS HAVE. WAS CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO ANY OTHER CHARACTER BESIDES HORIZON. DON'T ASK MY I T DIRECTOR AND THE ANSWER IS YES, BUT THE DON'T TELL CODES ARE THE SAME. SO THE PRICE THAT WE GET IT THAT WE'RE GETTING THERE FLAT FEES. SO FOR SOMETHING THAT'S A FLAT $33.50 PLANS. WE HAVE ROUTERS THAT WE CALL CRADLE POINTS WHERE YOU SEE THINGS WORKING. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. BUT THE PLAN IS SOLID ACROSS . WE LOOK AT THE PRESENCE OF THE TELCO IN THE AREAS WHERE RISING HIS HEAVILY INTO OUR AREA, SO THEIR SIGNALS A LOT STRONGER. WE ACTUALLY MET WITH HIM TODAY TO LOOK AT THEIR MASKS TO SEE WHERE ENFORCED AND IMPROVING THEIR INTEREST STRUCTURE. SO THAT'S WHO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND NOT ONLY PROVIDES THAT BUT WE HAVE GPS ON OUR VEHICLES, SO IT'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE GET THROUGH THEM. BUT THE PRICES ARE COMPARABLE. THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT THIS PHRASE BE NO ADVANTAGE CHANGING FROM VERIZON TO SAY 18 T YOUR FRONTIER IS A T AND T THAT'S AS AS SOME SITES AS THE BACKUP. OKAY SO IF WE LOOK AT OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES WATER, VERIZON IS THE MAIN TELCO ON THERE. AND THEN THE 18 TH BILL, SO WE JUST GOT REALLY MINOR POINT IF IT'S SO MUCH TO TELL ME TO SHUT UP, BUT LOOKING AT CITY , THE LINE ITEM FOR CITY COUNCIL IS 124,000. I WAS THINKING THE ONLY TIME I USED VERIZON I'M ACTUALLY IN THIS BUILDING OF THIS DEVICE RIGHT HERE FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. THAT'S WHAT THE DOLLAR VALUE IS OF OUR ACCESSING HORIZON. THOSE INFREQUENT TIMES THAT WE'RE HERE IN THIS BUILDING USING THESE DEVICES AND SOME 3000. OF COURSE, THAT'S FIVE YEARS TO IT OR IS THAT JUST A SINGLE YEAR? YES. THE POINT IS CONTINUOUSLY WORKS. EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT USING IT. YOU STILL HAVE THE DATA AT HOME AND YOU LOOK ON YOUR IPAD.

IT'S LIKE HAVING A CELL PHONE AT HOME UNDER THE MATH. IT'S 37 99 PER IPAD. SO TIMES SEVEN PEOPLE TIMES, 12 MONTHS IT'S UP, OKAY, BECAUSE WHEN I GO HOME, THIS THING LARGER MIND CHARACTER, SO I NEED TO CHANGE IT. JUST KEEP BLOGGING IN HORIZON WHEN I GO YES, IT'S YOUR PREFERENCE. YES.

AH! OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GO AWAY NOW. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU APPRECIATE THAT. THAT INCLUDES

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SO WITH THAT, LET'S SEE. IT'S UM GARCIA. YOU ARRIVED JUST IN TIME. YOU KNOW WE WERE DOING YEAH. ITEM FIVE. A IS THE BRAND FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE? RECOMMENDED AND APPROVED THAT WE MOVE IT TO THE UPSIDE TO CONSENT. SO LET'S COVER THAT NOW AND TAKE CARE OF IT. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE. ABSOLUTELY SO, AS YOU KNOW THE CHAMBER REQUEST FUNDS EVERY YEAR, UH, FROM THE TAX FUND FOR THE OPERATION OF THE FACILITY CHAMBER OF SERVES AS THE CITY'S VISITOR CENTER, PART OF THE TAX. HMM. REQUIREMENTS FROM THE STATE VISITOR CENTER DOES QUALIFY AS AN EXPENDITURE, QUALIFIED EXPENDITURE THAT WE CAN USE THE MONEY FOR US. THE VISITOR CENTER HAS SOME MAINTENANCE, REPAIR SOME LANDSCAPE UPGRADES, THEY HAD SOME PLUMBING ISSUES. RUSSIA MAY ALSO HAVE SOME COMPUTER UPGRADES AND THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM HAD GONE DOWN, AND IT DOES SERVE AS A VISITOR CENTER, AND THERE'S SOME SIGNAGE THAT THEY WANT TO ALSO IMPROVED. AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE THE COUNCIL BACK IN 19,204 THAN NORMAL OPERATIONS OF THE VISITOR CENTER. AND SO THEY ARE MAKING A NEW REQUEST FOR $15,215.68 THESE ARE ELIGIBLE. AH! AS YOU CAN SEE FROM SECTION 35111 TAX REVENUE REVENUE FOR THE MS HOTEL TAX AND MAY BE USED ONLY ABOUT TOURISM AND CONVENTION AND HOTEL INDUSTRY, AND THAT USE IS LIMITED TO ONE OF THE FOLLOWING SEVERAL ITEMS ONE QUALIFIES UNDER BEFORE THE ACQUISITION OF SITES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENT MARKET OFFERING MADE ITSELF DIMENSIONS. CENTER FACILITIES WILL VISIT INFORMATION OR BOTH. SO IT DOES QUALIFY UNDER THAT. PARTICULAR STATUE. AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I WILL JUST INTERJECTED QUICK COMMENT. THIS IS A NORMAL STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR THE CHAMBER TO COME FORWARD AND S O P FOR US AS WELL TO IMPROVE THESE KINDS OF FUNDS. AND RECOGNIZING AS WELL. CHAMBER BUILDING ITSELF IS THE ONE AND ONLY SINGLE SOURCE FOR THE OF THE VISITOR CENTER FOR THE CITY DOCTOR. SO THESE REQUESTS ARE VERY ACCOMMODATING AND ROUTINE ORDINARY. DOES HAVE TO BE TALKING. FORWARD PROGRAM. THANK YOU ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, IF NOT. OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR BRIEF PRESENTATIONS. I REMEMBER TO DISCUSS STREETLIGHT POLICIES BEST PRACTICES. INTERIM PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. IT'S AMAZING. IN THEIR HONORABLE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. I'M JACKIE COLTON, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT STREET POLICY. THIS PRACTICES. SO THE CITY HAS A STREETLIGHT POLICY WAS LAST UPDATED 14 YEARS AGO, UH, COUNCILMAN COOMBS BEYOND HIS SOME REQUESTS FROM CITIZENS IN JULY, ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL MID BLOCK STREET LIGHTS. WE BRIEFED THE COUNCIL OCTOBER 18TH ON OUR CURRENT

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CITY SURVEY. AND THIS RELATES TO RESIDENTS REQUEST SO THE ONLY. STEADY THAT HAS A FORMAL REQUEST FOR MID BLOCK LIGHTS IS PLANO. THEY HAVE A PETITION REQUEST. SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO FOR RHODA.

THE OTHERS MENTION, YOU KNOW, RECEIVING CITIZEN REQUEST IN THEIR GUIDELINES OR POLICIES AND ALSO PROVIDE FOR THE REQUEST TO BE REVIEWED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND APPROVED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. THAT IS TRUE OF MOST OF ALL OF THEM. GO BACK ONE. YES, SIR. OKAY, PLANO.

SECOND FROM THE BOTTOM HOMEOWNERS ARE REQUIRED TO PAY TWO THIRDS THE COST OF THE NEWS, STREETLAMP. YES, SIR. HEAD. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? WHAT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION? OKAY SO WE'RE BUDGETED AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THE INPUT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET FROM THE COUNCIL. SO BASICALLY, WE'RE CITIES PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL MID BLOCK LIGHT, MEANING ADDITIONAL, LIKE OUTSIDE OF THE LIMITS OF THE GUIDELINES. THERE IS SOME COST PARTICIPATION. YOU KNOW, ON THE PART OF THE REQUESTER. WHAT'S THE COST? PETITION PARTICIPATION IN TERMS OF ROAD UP? AH ACTUALLY , THEY HAVE TO PAY THE FULL COST OF THE ROAD. YES PERCENT OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS PARTICULAR STREET MUST SIGN A PETITION AND AGREE TO THAT. 90% PARTICIPATION. IN TERMS OF APPROVAL ON THE PETITION. IT'S 100% PARTICIPATION BECAUSE. RECALL THAT CORRECT, CORRECT.

OKAY I'M JUST THINKING TO MYSELF. BIG CITIES GOT 200,000 SEAFOOD MEMBERS, LONGSTANDING.

EXCELLENCE AND MUNICIPAL SERVICES AND THAT SORT OF THING SO UM. I WAS THINKING OUR CASE AT LEAST 80. YES, SIR. OKAY YES , SIR. SO SO WE GOT ANYWHERE FROM 100 TO 2 THIRDS TO ONE OF

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YES, JUST LONG AS LIONS AND STUFF. BROKEN POLICY ONE OF THE BAG WALL POLICY TO DO WE BUDGET WHAT'S THE COST? PARTICIPATION NOW? OKAY SO THE BACK WALL POLICY IS CURRENTLY UNFUNDED THIS YEAR, BUT IT'S A 50 50. BUT ACTUALLY, I THINK WE BUDGET ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO $100,000 A YEAR WHEN WE DID YOU KNOW, HAVE FUNNY IN THE BUDGET. BUT THE WALLS ARE GENERALLY SO EXPENSIVE UNTIL YOU KNOW THERE. A FAIR FEW TAKERS. OKAY SO MID BLOCK SPACING CURRENTLY UNLESS A BLOCK IS 1000 FT OR GREATER. POLICY WOULDN'T CALL FOR A MID BLOCK LIFE. SO IT'S A GIVEN, YOU KNOW , AT INTERSECTIONS THAT THERE WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIGHTING A STREET LIGHT. BUT IF IT'S LESS THAN 1000 FT UNLESS THERE WAS A SITUATION WITH A SHORT TURN OR SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD CALL FOR ADDITIONAL LIFE FOR THE SAFETY OF THE MOTORING PUBLIC. IT WOULDN'T QUALIFY. SO OTHER CITIES THAT WERE SURVEYED . I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH THEIR MINIMUMS. YOU GOT ANYWHERE FROM, YOU KNOW 100 AND 80 FT MINIMUM. TO THE 500. IT'S REALLY. THINK OF ANY REASON THAT MIGHT HELP FOR THE DISPARITY. NO IF IT WAS MORE UNIFORM. YOU KNOW? YEAH, THERE WAS MORE RHYME OR REASON. BE THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE COMMUNITY. YEAH NUMBER OF HOUSES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT'S TRUE. OKAY? AND THEN IT COULD BE THE HE COULD. NO BRAKES BREAK OUT TO THE BUDGET. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS AVAILABLE? BECAUSE THIS ALL BOILS DOWN TO FUND AS WELL. SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE 10 CRITICAL ASPECT OF THE CITY. I DON'T WE RECEIVED COMMENTS ABOUT MY CITY. MY STREET IS SO DARK AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE COME BACK AND SAY, DON'T MAKE IT LIGHTER BECAUSE WE HAVE OWLS. AND WE HAVE OTHER NOCTURNAL CREATURES PREFER IN THE DARK, SO IT'S TWO SIDES SO SOME OF THESE CITIES COULD HAVE AN ECOLOGICAL IMPACT. TO SAY THAT THE NOCTURNAL ANIMALS AND WILDLIFE AND SO FORTH PREFERRED PARTNER SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A GREATER SPACE NOW. THAT'S TRUE, TOO, AND THEN HISTORICAL HOW THEY SET THOSE PARAMETERS BECAUSE DON'T TOUCH ON THAT A BIT BECAUSE ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS RELATED TO SKY LIGHTING AND SO TOUCH ON THAT. OKAY SO WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO INCLUDE DEFINITIONS, YOU KNOW, IN OUR. IN ANY REVISIONS TO THE POLICY, AND WE LOOKED AT OUR SURVEYS CITIES. MOST OF THEM DO NOT. CLEWISTON MAIN DOES, BUT IT JUST ALL DEPENDS UPON THE CONTENTS OF THE POLICY WHETHER OR NOT WE INCLUDE DEFINITIONS, BUT YOU KNOW ANYTHING IN THE POLICY NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTOOD. SO DEPENDING UPON WHAT CHANGES OR REQUESTED WILL ADD DEFINITIONS AS WE NEED TO. OKAY SO THE PURPOSE OF THE CITY'S POLICY IS AS STATED. YOU KNOW THE BENEFIT OF THE MOTORING PUBLIC, NOT SECURITY LIGHTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR PEDESTRIANS. AND OF THE CITIES. WE SURVEY LEWISTON'S MAIN HAD THAT YOU KNOW, SECURITY OF AUSTRIANS REDUCING LIGHT POLLUTION AH, PROMOTING ENERGY CONSERVATION AS PURPOSES SO, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY WOULD NEED TO ENTERTAIN EVERY SEED FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL REGARDING YOU KNOW IF WE WANT TO MAKE ANY REVISIONS TO THE PURPOSE. UM. HE WAS ALSO REQUESTED THAT STREETSCAPE LIGHTING AVIATION'S BE ADDED TO THE POLICY. SO MOST OF THE CITY SURVEY DO HAVE SOME FORM OF STREETSCAPE. LIGHTING EITHER IN THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THEIR DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINES. OR THEIR STREETSCAPE MASTER PLAN, AND SO THIS IS

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AND SO THIS WAS ALSO REQUESTED. AND ACTUALLY, WITHIN OUR CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE, THERE ARE PROVISIONS. FOUR DARK SKY LIGHTING AS IT RELATES TO NEW DEVELOPMENT, REDEVELOPMENT AND EXPANSIONS. BUT IT IS SOMETHING YOU KNOW THIS IS YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS COMING, YOU KNOW? AWAY. QUESTION DO WE HAVE ANY HYPER MORE AND MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I PROBABLY LESS THAN A YEAR AGO. I MEAN NOTHING ABOUT THIS, BUT IT ALL MAKES GOOD SENSE. UM, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT ON COURSE, PLUGGED INTO AS WELL. THAT'S THE OTHER QUARTER OF THE EQUATION.

BECAUSE IF WE DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THEN YEAH, WE WOULD HAVE TO GEAR UP WITH ENCORE. IN ORDER TO IF YOU KNOW EFFECT THESE CHANGES. THANK YOU STARTED. THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, AND SO THEY INCENTIVIZED COMMUNITIES ACTUALLY STATES TO DEVELOP A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN ON CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. THE INTEREST AREAS TO INCLUDE THE POLLUTION FROM THE LIGHTS AS WELL AS OTHER TYPES OF POLLUTION. AND SO EACH STATE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES WOULD COME THROUGH IN DEPTH. THIS CLIMATE ACTION SOME CITIES WENT BACK, AND THEY ALSO ADAPTED TO CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND WITHIN THAT PLAN FOCUSED ON SOME OF THESE AREAS. THE STATE OF TEXAS IS DONE A LITTLE BIT, BUT AS A CITY WE HAVEN'T STARTED DOING THAT. I KNOW SOME OF THE CITY'S I'VE LOOKED AT HAVE THE PLANS, AND THEY FOCUS ON THE TYPE OF FUELS AND WHAT TYPE OF FUEL EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS WE DON'T AND IT'S REALLY A COMMUNITY BASED ACTIVITY WHERE THE COMMUNITY GETS TOGETHER AND PUT TOGETHER. AND THE COMEDIANS LOOKING. WHAT ARE THE LONG TERM 10 YEAR PLAN OF HOW WE START TO DO THIS DARK SKY LIGHTING IS VERY POPULAR IN HILLY AREAS. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK IN MEXICO AND EVEN IN THE HILLS OF CALIFORNIA. A LOT OF FOLKS ARE FOCUSING ON IT BECAUSE THEY'RE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT NOT ONLY THE SOLUTION TO THE I, BUT AS WE'VE HEARD HERE, THERE'S SOME CITIZENS WHO FEEL THAT THERE IS THE IMPACT OF THE LIGHTS THAT IT'S HAVING ON THEM. SO, YOU KNOW. IT HELPS WHEN YOU HAVE THE FULL CUT OFF, CUT OFF LIGHTING AND HELPS, YOU KNOW TO SEE THE STORES. YOU KNOW THAT. AESTHETICS IDEA. JUST I GREW UP WITH THIS, UM SOUTHERN ARIZONA. TO SIDE WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA IS ONE OF THE SPECIALIZED UNIVERSITY. IN THE WORLD FOR ASTRONOMY. AND SO WHEN I GREW UP IN THE CITY, WHERE LIGHTING HAS BEEN DIFFUSED DOWNWARD FOR 60 70 YEARS THERE'S SOMETHING I GREW UP WITH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT DARK SKIES WHEN WE CAN DO HERE IS MORE FOR THE NOCTURNAL WILDLIFE. IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE SKYLIGHT BECAUSE ASTRONOMY ANYTHING APART. IN THE MOOD. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING I WAS WELL AWARE OF, UH, GROWING UP. NOT ONLY NOT ONLY THE WRENCH IN THAT, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW OF IN CITY OF FLAGSTAFF OBSERVATORY, LOCATED AS A LONGSTANDING SEE WHAT POLICY NOT SKIES. THERE'S NOT ALLOW CERTAIN KINDS OF TROUBLE. RIGHT OUTSIDE OF TUCSON PICKUP SERVICE.

KEEPING THEM. SO IT'S. BUT IT'S A MATTER OF WHERE IT EVOLVED INTO AROUND A LONG TIME. IT'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME. MR MATTER WITH THE SURF CITY TO REDUCING SKYLIGHT. NO, IT'S TIME TO HEAR FROM THE COUNCIL. WHAT. WHAT DO YOU ALL DESIRE? YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL. I REALLY WANNA THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ALL THIS INFORMATION

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AMBASSADOR. THIS. AND THEN SECOND OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THE THIS WAS AGAIN IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS FROM CITIZENS HAD ABOUT LIGHTING ISSUES. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RESPONSE OF POLICY IS VERY RESTRICTED. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF OPPORTUNITY. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMEONE'S RESTRICTIONS. I MEAN, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS. I MEAN, DOGS, START POLICY AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WOW. THAT'S KIND OF LONG TERM IMPLEMENTATION OF THINGS YOU DON'T DO OVERNIGHT. BUT YOU KNOW, WE REVISE THE POLICY WHEN WE'RE READY TO DO THOSE THINGS.

YOU WON'T BE RESTRICTED. ONE OF THE KEY FACTORS I THINK GOES BACK TO MR HARVEY'S QUESTION IS HOW DO WE BLESS THE MATTER OF COST. DO WE DOING? MIRROR WHAT WE DO WITH ROAD HUBS. OR IS IT GOING TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT? AND THAT WAS. THAT WAS THE ONE SUGGESTION BIGGEST ISSUE ON THE PLATE REALLY SHARED COSTS. I MEAN, JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES WHAT THEY'VE DONE. BUT AGAIN. THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES OR JUST GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY IF WE WANT DO SOMETHING. I'VE HEARD DIFFERING OPINIONS FROM PEOPLE I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WEATHERS. LTD LIGHTING BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIKE THAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF TREES, AND SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE THE LIGHTING THAT GETS QUOTE, FAIR, THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIVE IN AREAS WHERE THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT CRIME. UM AND SO THEY'RE IN FAVOR OF MORE LINING. SO NOBODY WRITING NOBODY WRONG IN THIS, BUT IT WOULD SEEM AS THOUGH WE KIND OF TAKE THE TEMPERATURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR. I MEAN, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT A HEAD START THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN. PROVIDING POLICY . BUT WHAT'S THE OVERALL THINKING ABOUT BECAUSE. ONCE YOU ONCE YOU ALLOW OUTSIDE OF THE NORMS YOU ALLOW EXTRA STREETLIGHTS. ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD MAY ASK FOR THE SAME THING. AND PRETTY SOON WE MAY HAVE AN ABUNDANCE CITIES REQUEST. MAYBE NOT. IF THE COST STAYS WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE, UM, BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO REACH UP PUBLIC AND SEE WHAT PEOPLE FEEL OVERALL CITYWIDE. ABOUT INCREASING. STREET LIGHTING AND IT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO. LET HER KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE OTHER OPTIONS, TOO. HAVE EFFICIENT LIGHTING. THAT'S BETTER THAN OUR SODIUM LIGHTING, I THINK IS WHAT WE HAVE A BOAT. WHAT CITY SEVERAL REASONS WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THE PUBLIC THROUGH SOME COMMUNICATIONS. ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS IS THAT. WE HAVE TO BRING IN THE COST SOMEWHERE. SURE. WHY ARE WE HAVE DEFINED WHAT WE DO WITH OUR LIGHTING? IT'S ALL ABOUT MOTOR SAFETY. IF WE BRING INTO THE FACTORY, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY FOR SAFETY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING IN DIFFERENT PARAMETERS IN TERMS OF SPACING THOSE LIGHTS IN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY FEELS THEIR PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD FIRE. OR THEY ARE DESIROUS SUBMISSION, SAY BETTER REQUIRED. SO POSSIBLY COLD. WALK AWAY FROM THIS TONIGHT, NOT GIVE YOU ANY ANSWERS. OTHER THAN THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION WILL PONDER ON JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS WE HAVE. CAN WE PUT A SURVEY OUT AND GET SOME INFORMATION ON VERSUS AND THE BIBLE WEB SURVEY? YEAH. DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. JUST TO SEE TEMPERATURE. WHAT'S THE BEST WAY SYSTEMS FEEL ABOUT CHAIR BY HIM? BUT DOES THAT AFFECT SO HAVING MORE LIGHTS? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THEM? POWER AS FAR AS AVERAGES WE HAVE POWER, BUT NO, I'M SERIOUS. I DON'T KNOW. OKAY? HOPEFULLY THE COST THE CITY PAYS FOR STREET POINTS, SO ONE OF THE THINGS CITIES HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. THEY DOWN THE STREET LIGHTS SURVEY BECAUSE WE STARTED TO DISCOVER THAT, IN SOME CASES PREPARING FOR MORE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS HAS THE ABILITY TO REQUEST A LIGHT ON THEIRS, AND THEY PAY ON CAR DIRECTLY FOR THAT STREET LIGHTS UP THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK IT'S AN IN FLIGHT. AND EVEN INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS ACTUALLY CAN MAKE THE SAME. DECISION TO CONTRACT WITH ENCORE TO HAVE WHAT IS A LIKE THAT'S FUNNY, JUST LIKE THEIR ELECTRIC BILL. AND SO, FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE NEED TO GET YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS IS WHAT DO WE PAY PER STREETLIGHT? IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT, BUT THE QUESTION IS, IF WE MOVE FROM 1001 EVERY 500 FT. OF THE HOW MANY LIGHTS WE

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ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE FEEL BECAUSE I THINK IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF OUR COMMUNITY, WE'RE GOING TO GET DIFFERENT RESPONSES ABOUT MY ONE MORE LIGHT FOR CRIME. I WANT MORE LIGHTS FOR SAFETY BECAUSE WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT SPEEDING CARS. UM IT WOULD JUST BE INTERESTING TO SEE IN MY OPINION, BE INTERESTING TO SEE IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION. GOOD PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT HERE. NOW THAT WE CAN PASS ON TO THE PUBLIC AND GET SOME GET SOME FEEDBACK. WE ASK, AND SO WHAT WE'LL DO WITH RALPH SINCE WE'RE IN THE HOLIDAY SEASON. KICKING IT OUT IN JANUARY. SURE FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL OF QUESTIONS. WE'LL GET A DRAFT OF SOME QUESTIONS TO YOU AND SEND IT OUT VIA EMAIL FOR FEEDBACK, AND OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO ROLL IT OUT AROUND THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND THEN GET FOLKS ABOUT A MONTH OR SO TO RESPOND AND THEN BRING BACK THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY. VERY WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOT HIM TO BE DISCUSSION OF MORTGAGES AND PERTAINED TRAILER PARK. ASSISTANT CHIEF FREED THANKS. GETTING MAYOR COUNCIL CITY MANAGER. UM SO TONIGHT I'M GOING TO COVER OUR TRAILER PARKING COORDINATES HIGHLIGHTS ISSUES WE HAVE WITH OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES PROVIDE THE COUNCIL SOME CONSIDERATIONS GOING FORWARD AND THEN ASK FOR DIRECTIONS. WHAT YOU MAY BE LOOKING TO RESTRICT IN THE TRAILER PARK. CONSERVATIVE. BRIEF HISTORY IN 2014. WE ADMITTED ORDINANCES TO ADDRESS THE GARDEN PARTIES, UM AND YOU'LL SEE THIS MEASUREMENT 11 BODIES BY 36 COME UP FROM THE ORDINANCES LATER. OH AS YOU WELL KNOW, WE CONSTANTLY RECEIVE CALLS OF ILLEGAL TRAILER PARKING. TRAILERS BLOCKING THE STREETS. AND SO OUR OFFICERS ARE AT THE RESPONDING TO THESE COSTS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE BEST. INFORMATION AVAILABLE. THE ORDINANCES ARE UP TO DATE, ALLOW THEM TO RESPOND BEST TO OUR CITIZENS FOUND THE ORDINANCES AND WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ARE CURRENTLY THEY DO CONTRADICT EACH OTHER HERE IN JUST A SEC.

SO AGAIN. YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THESE PICTURES BEFORE. JUST EXAMPLES OF CALLS THAT WE RESPOND TO DIFFERENT TRAILERS, WHETHER IT BE RV BOAT TRAILER PUMP UP TRAILERS. UM BUT THIS IS WHAT OUR OFFICERS RESPONDING TO, UM NOT ON A DAILY BASIS, AND WE GET THE CALLS. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE COMING UP. SO OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES, THE ONES THAT DEAL WITH TRAILER PARKING, UM THE 1ST 1 19-1 15. THIS WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO DEAL WITH SEMI TRAILERS, TRACTOR TRAILERS, HOWEVER, THE WORD TRAILER BY DEFINITION IS WITHIN THAT POINT . UM IT MAKES IT UNLAWFUL TO PARK ANY TRAILER WITHIN THE CITY UNLESS IT'S IN AN AREA ZONE WANT ITUNES? ALSO THOSE ARE OUTDATED, OUTDATED ZONING AREAS AS WE RECENTLY CHANGED NOW, WE'RE JUST HAVING INDUSTRIALS UM 1916 CONTRADICTS 15 AND ALLOWS FOR PARKING FOR TRAILERS AS WELL AS OUR THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AS LONG AS IT'S NOT WITHIN HIS ONSLAUGHT LARGER THAN THAT. EIGHT BY 11 BY 36 LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH BOILERPLATE. SIZES AND I BELIEVE THAT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO TRAILERS PARKED THAT WAY. YOU CAN GET A FIRE APPARATUS IN BETWEEN. SO THE CITIES THAT

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THEY'LL GO OUT THERE, EITHER. CHOCK THE TIRES WILL NOTE THE TIME THEY'LL COME BACK THREE HOURS LATER, BUT THEY HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO DO THAT. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT PERSONNEL. SO POTENTIAL ISSUE IF YOU'RE LOOKING, YOU'RE GOING THAT ROUTE. SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE LIKE TO BRING BEFORE YOU APPOINTMENT. YES, SIR. IN ANY OF THOSE. ORDINANCES ARE THEIR DIMENSIONS THAT ARE SIDE UM, THAT HAS NO NO FRISCO HAS DIMENSIONS. ETCETERA HAS DIMENSIONS. MOST CITIES HAVE DIMENSIONS, AND IT'S THOSE THAT DIMENSION IS STILL FOCUSED ON THAT 40 FOOTER. THAT 53 DIMENSION THAT YOU SEE IS FOCUSED ON I THINK IT WAS 36.

YEAH, SO NOTHING MORE THAN 36 WEEKS. OKAY WE NEED TO KIND OF PLANT THAT IN THE BACK OF OUR MINDS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TRAILER. THEY'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING LESS THAN 36 IS STILL GONNA BE OKAY. YES. YES, OKAY. CONSIDERATIONS A. YES SIR. JUST A CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ONE OF YOUR EARLY SCREENS WHERE WE HAVE THREE DIMENSIONS. 11 36, RIGHT. THAT'S THE ONE YOU NEED, KILLING THE LARGER TRAILERS. OF COURSE, EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT 18 WHEELERS, PARKING ON THE STREET, AND THAT'S DEALT WITH IN A DIFFERENT WAY. BUT THOSE RIGHT THERE WERE, UH, WERE NUMBERS THAT THEY CAME UP WITH WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD WOULD LEGALLY PARKED WITH YOUR RIGHT. LEFT HAND RIGHT HAND TIRES 18 INCHES FROM THE CURB, BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAW. SO IF YOU'RE AT THE EXTREME 18 INCHES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET WHAT CAUSES OUR FIRE APPARATUS SCHOOL BUSSES. AS PART AND GARBAGE TRUCK TO BE ABLE NOT TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THERE. AND THOSE WERE THE DIMENSIONS THAT WERE TESTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH VEHICLES THAT THEY PLACED ON THE STREET. AND THEY BROUGHT THE APPARATUS HERE. SO THOSE ARE REALLY PROVEN OUT AND I DON'T THINK THEY GET OUTDATED. THAT THAT IS A CRITICAL PART OF THIS ORDINANCE . UH, I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON YES. UM CONSIDERATIONS POINT IN TIME ORDINANCE. UM THIS WAS GONNA PROVIDE CLARIFICATION OFFICER FOR ENFORCEMENT. WHETHER THAT BE NO TRAILER PARKING AFTER A CERTAIN TIME IN THE NIGHT THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO USE TRAILERS DURING THE DAY. THINK UNLOAD LOAD ALLOWS FOR YORKERS YOUR MAINTENANCE WORKERS TO HAVE THEIR TRAILERS OUT. UM ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IS JUST RESTRICT ALL TRAILER PARK AND WITHIN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. YOU CAN ALSO BUILD IN EXEMPTIONS FOR THAT, FOR AGAIN TEMPORARY LOADING AND LOADING, WHICH WOULD SPEAK TO THOSE PEOPLE TRYING TO DO BUSINESS EMERGENCY VEHICLES, OBVIOUSLY OR ANYTHING USED BY THE CHURCH, STEVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OF THE CITY, OR THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE. THE OPTION OF JUST KEEPING ACCORDANCE IS AS THE ORDINANCES AS THEY ARE, BUT AGAIN. THEY ARE CONTRADICTORY RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO OFFICERS. CITIZENS IF THEY'RE GOING OUT, THEY MIGHT HAVE ONE. OFFICER. LOOK AT PARTICULAR ORDINANCE AND SAY, OKAY, YOU CAN'T PARK THE TRAILER HERE. BUT THEN ANOTHER OFFICER LOOKS AT THE ORDINANCE BELOW THAT NOT KNOWING AND THEN HE SAYS, OKAY, YOU CAN I'M SORRY. JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION AND CONSIDERATIONS OF WHAT IS IT THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO RESTRICT? WE'LL GO FORWARD FROM THERE. HOW ABOUT THE FIRST STEP IS TO Y'ALL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S CONTRADICTORY AND ELIMINATE THE CONTRADICTIONS? WE HAVE STUFF FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER. IT SEEMS LIKE THE BEST THING TO RESOLVE THAT FIRST, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE REST OF THE PIECES OF THE GAVE BY 11 36. FOCUS ON BASICALLY WHAT IT WAS BETTER THAN 53 FOOTER, WHICH ARE THE SEMI TRAILERS. ACTUALLY TWENTIES FORTIES AND 53 59 OUT THERE NOW. IT'S ILLEGAL 59 FT TRAILER. HOLD BY ANYTHING TRACKER. OF COURSE, IS NEVER GOING ALLOWED ON EVERYTHING. SO JUST ELIMINATE SOME OF THOSE CONTRADICTIONS. PHASE OUT. WHATEVER IS BAD FOR US BRING BACK SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND SAY WHERE WE DO THIS AND AT THE SAME TIME, MINIMIZE THE

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CLEAR WE ARE CLEARING THAT OF THE LANGUAGE, OBVIOUSLY TO REMOVE ANYTHING CONTRIBUTIONS WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND SAY WE'VE CLEANED UP THE LANGUAGE. NOW. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING IS THE LANGUAGE. YOU ALL THINK ONE FELL SWOOP. COME BACK WITH WHAT COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GOING BACK. MCBURNETT CITY MANAGER YESTERDAY, MR GOOD POINT ABOUT TRY AND TRUE POINT OF HAVING A MEASURE TO KNOW VEHICLE GOING BY. AND IT SEEMS LIKE I KNOW, AT LEAST WITH THE FIRE EQUIPMENT. SO IF IT GETS LONGER NOW IS IT AIN'T GETTING WIDER AS WELL, TOO. AND EVERY TIME OKAY, SO. READY TO READ SOMETHING THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT OF THIS POTENTIAL THAT THAT MIGHT BE LOST. BUT I ASSUME HER LAWS THAT RESTRICT THE WIDTH OF THOSE VEHICLES COULD THE STREETS ARE ONLY SO WIDE. SO I MEAN, YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE HERE VEHICLE HERE I STILL GOT TO BE ABLE TO GET MY VEHICLE DOWN THERE WITH THAT THING. SO ANOTHER ASSESSMENT OF OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO SEE WHAT THE WHIP LIKE WITH THE NEW QUIT, YOU KNOW WHERE THEY CAN LIKE VERSUS THE ALMOST THANK YOUR MAIN ISSUE IN A LOT OF THAT IS AS YOU GET READY TO TURN YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT REAR END KICKS OUT HIM WHEN YOU HAVE PARKING TOO CLOSE TO A CORNER WHERE IT KICKS AT. THAT'S HOW WE HAVE A LOT OF ACCIDENTS. THOSE KICK OUTS FROM THE REAR END. SO THE OTHER CONSIDERATION ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS, HIS YOU KNOW THAT YOU MIGHT PERTAINED IS DO YOU WANT PARKING ON TO ALLOW PARKING ON BOTH SIDES THE STREETS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AS THESE VEHICLES ARE BIGGER, UH, THAT'S WHY IT IS THEY COULD BE GIVEN AN ORDINANCE. IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY PARKED ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT JUST REDUCES YOUR SPACE TO GET THROUGH. SO SOME CITIES HAVE GONE AS GONE THROUGH AND THEY SAID ON THE NORTH SIDE IS OUTSIDE THE EAST AND WEST.

WE'RE NOT GONNA FIND PARKING BUT THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION AND HMM. AGAIN IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD. YOU KNOW, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. THIS THE SPECIFIC DIMENSIONS THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF. THEY ACTUALLY CAME UP BACK IN 2013 OR 2014. WE HAD A HARVEY DONALD GREEN HILLS AND THAT WAS VERY PROBLEMATIC FOR US, AND, UH, MR HAGAR'S OFFICE WORKED WITH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CITIES THAT WILL ALLOW RV WAIVERS FOR SEVEN DAYS. WE DECIDED NOT TO GO WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS SOME SPECIFIC PEOPLE IN TOWN THAT HAD OR MAYBE RELATIVES THAT

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AND FORTUNATELY WE DON'T WANT. WE DON'T WANT TO CAUSE A PROBLEM FOR A LONG PERSONAL OFFICERS AFTER INTERPRET THE LAW. BUT THAT VIDEO EVEN INPUT FROM YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. CITY MANAGER THINK. WE ACTUALLY RUNNING A BOARDING AND SO WE'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED AN ORDINANCE.

THE REASON WE BROUGHT IT BACK BECAUSE THE COUNCIL WANTED TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE ORDINANCE, AND MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THE SPECIFICS THAT WERE IN THE ORDINANCE ALSO FOR THIS DISCUSSION, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD DONE. THEY HAD DRAFTED ONE AND WE SEE IF WE NEEDED TO TALK ABOUT IT SOME MORE. SO I DON'T KNOW. IF THERE IS A CITY MANAGER ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, IT WAS THE POINT IN TIME. CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RECOMMENDED 11 PM TRAILER PARKING AFTER 11 PM SO WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT WORK AND THAT'S WHAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU IMPROVE. WE GOT TO THE APPROVAL COUNCIL SEVERAL MIGHT NEED TO WORKSHOP BECAUSE WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE MORE TEETH TO IT. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION WE ASK IS WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE. SO WHAT YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO DO IS TAKE THAT ORDINANCE AND ADD SOME MORE TEETH TO IT. SO WHAT'S THAT? NEXT UP FOR US? I REMEMBER THAT 11 PM MENTIONING. I CAN'T AGREE WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE VISITORS. WE HAVE GUESTS COME INTO TALENT. THEY'VE GOT SOMETHING GOING TO MAKE A MOVE IT AFTER 11 PM WITH THEIR SLEEPING LIKE I THINK EVEN THAT ASPECT OF IT IS UNREASONABLE. BEFORE WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF CITING PARTICULAR LIKE A POP UP TRAILER OR ARMY FOR A PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME VISITING 12 STATES AWAY SAYING, YOU GOTTA MOVE IT AFTER 11. PM IT JUST HAS TO BE CAREFUL . THE PARTS WHERE THERE IS A PERMITTING PROCESS. THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY. YEAH THAT BECAUSE WHAT THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT SOMEONE TO I USED MY MOTHER AND SHE HAS 1/5 WHEEL. DO YOU WANT HER FIFTH WHEEL? FINALLY ON YOUR STRENGTH. SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE VISITOR VERSUS THE LONG TERM AND SO WE HAVE SOME LONG TERM AND THEN WE HAVE SOME TEMPORARY. AND SO THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL IS HOW STRINGENT OR EVERYTHING HAS A WAY TO GET AROUND IT. AND SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS CREATE SOMETHING OR ADD SOMETHING TO IT. THAT GIVES THE DISCRETION WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY APPLY SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A PERMITTED USE FOR A SET POINT TIME. THAT'S NOT THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, BUT MR COMES SO FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS VISITING. JUST IN THAT POTENTIAL SCENARIOS SOMEBODY WOULD VISIT. LET'S GO GET PERMANENT SPECIAL COMMISSIONER FOR JUST ONE NIGHT. AND THEN THAT DOES SOME CITIES DO THAT THINKING IS NOT A REASON THAT'S SO WANT TO GO THERE. SOMEONE TO ASK. WHEN YOU GET CALLS. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S SUCKING NATURE CALLS. TYPICALLY CALLS AFTER 11 PM SOMEBODY'S PART OF THE TRAILER. TYPICALLY, THE CALLS ARE DURING THE DAY, SOMETHING THAT THEY BLOCKING THE ROAD OR MIGHT BE COMMUNICATION FROM STAFFS. MY EMAIL COUNSELING THAT GETS FILTERED DOWN TO US. HEY, THIS TRAILER'S REPORTER A FEW DAYS AGO, CHECK ON IT WILL MAKE CONTACT WITH THE OWNER TROT, OBVIOUSLY TO GET THE MOVEMENT FIRST. MOST OF THESE ORDINANCES. WE'RE NOT GOING OUT THERE LOOKING FOR THESE THINGS WERE BEING TOLD ABOUT US. WE'RE GOING OUT ON OUR FIRST OPTION. ALWAYS IS THE OWNER AND SAY, HEY, YOU MIND MOVING? THIS IS CAUSING AN ISSUE. WE DON'T WANT TO BE OUTSIDE INDIVIDUAL CITING OUR CITIZENS, JUST GRABBING TRAILERS. WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO MOVE. SO WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT CONVERSATION FIRST CAUSE DAYTIME. CITIZEN INITIATED RATHER THAN OFFICERS. ABSOLUTELY MY OFFICE GETS TONS OF CALLS FROM CITIZENS COUNCILS ASKED THE MAYOR. THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THE ISSUE FOR US WAS WE ARE LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN DO. WE HAVE TO RESPOND. WELL, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO. THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT THIS IS BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING FOR THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE IT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. WE CAN JUST TELL CITIZENS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A AND THAT'S OKAY TOO. BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE EDUCATE FOLKS AND SAY THAT, YES, IT MAY BE AN EYESORE TO YOU. IT'S LIKE THE 18 WHEELERS ON THE INTERSTATE. YOU KNOW, WE GET CALLS ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME. BUT THERE ARE SOME LAWS THAT SUPERSEDE US THAT LIMITS PEOPLE TO PARK $18 FOR THEIR PART, USING JUST ONE MORE NOTE. MY EXPERIENCE IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING

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THE MORE THEY HAVE COMPANY. IT'S NOT NOTICEABLE. ALL THOSE STREETS ARE THINK A LITTLE BIT OF WATER. FAIR MEADOWS OR CANDLELIGHT. THINK OF THOSE STREETS DURING THE DAY. I THINK ABOUT HIM AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK WHEN EVERYBODY COMES HOME NOW YOU'RE GOING TO ADD CAMPER TRAILER POP UP TRAILERS, TRAILERS FOR ANY PERIOD OF TIME . YOU'RE ONLY YOU THINK YOU GET PHONE CALLS NOW ABOUT THE PROBLEMS UP THERE, BUT JUST TREATING YOUR DISTRICT THAT GOES FROM CENTER TO WE LEARNED THAT RUNS DOWN BY MALONE'S OFFICE. JUST SOUTH TO TABLE. GO DOWN THAT STREET BECAUSE IT'S GOT SOME BENDS IN IT AND LOOK AT THE CARS EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY. LOOK HOW TIGHT THAT IS YOUR AD IN ALLOWING PEOPLE AT ANY TIME. APART. THESE TYPES OF TRAILERS. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CREATING MORE PROBLEMS THAN YOU HAD BEFORE. SO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POLICE ARE UP AGAINST, AND I WANT TO TRY TO HELP WITH THAT. BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE TRACK OF THE FACT THAT WE GOT SOME PRETTY TIGHT STREETS AND WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS.

IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. I MENTIONED NOT TO MENTION SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T MENTIONED JOHNSON STREET HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT ABOUT A YEAR AGO. BUT PEOPLE BEING UNSAFE TO DRIVE UP AND DOWN THERE AND OPEN UP YOUR CAR DOORS. IT'S ALL LEGAL PARKING, BUT IT'S MAXED OUT.

HOLLYWOOD WORK THE SAME WAY. SO YOU START ADDING TRAILERS TO THE NEXT. WE HAVE TO THINK THROUGH THAT VERY CAREFULLY WHAT WE WANT FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD. ONE THING THAT, UM. THIS IS GONNA BE VERY CONTROVERSIAL TO SAY IT ANYWAY. IS THAT TRUMP MY EXPERIENCE LIVING IN EUROPE, SOME CITIES THAT HAVE STREETS THAT WERE BUILT IN THE 16 HUNDREDS, 17 HUNDREDS AND 18 HUNDREDS. THERE IS NO ROOM TO GO ANYWHERE. THEY AUTHORIZED PARKING ON SIDEWALKS. AND I'M THINKING OF SOME OF THE STREETS OPEN DISTRICT FIVE. THEY WERE BUILT. WHAT 40 50 60 YEARS AGO.

PEOPLE ARE PARKING THEIR CARS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET WHEN THEY COME HOME FROM WORK. I DON'T THINK ONE OF OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES COULD MAKE IT THROUGH ONE OF THOSE STREETS. ONE OF THE REALLY OUTLINED CONSIDERATIONS LOOKING IN TERMS OF SAFETY. TO OUR EMERGENCY CREWS IS SHOULD WE CONSIDER SOME TYPE OF. ALLOWING PARKING ON THE SIDEWALK AFTER A CERTAIN TIME SO THAT WE CAN MITIGATE THE CIRCUMSTANCE OF HAVING AN EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN'T GET WITH IT TO GO. THAT WAS IT WAS CONTROVERSIAL, AND WE HAVEN'T ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW. IT SAYS YOU'RE PARKED ON THE SIDEWALK WE'RE GONNA DO YOU GOT THAT ONE. BUT I'M LOOKING AT DRIVEN UP AND DRINK. JUST FIND IT NIGHT SEVERAL TIMES IT CITIZENS REQUEST TO SEE HOW TIGHT IT REALLY IS. A NEW CARS CANNOT GO. NO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ON SOME OF THOSE STREETS AT NIGHT. IT'S TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE. SOMEBODY HAS TO BE MOVING. YOU MIGHT RUN INTO SOME MEDIA ISSUES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IT, GET IT. I KNOW IT SAID. I KNOW IT'S CONTRIBUTION. IT'S VERY, VERY COMPLICATED. BUT SOMEWHERE IN THIS MIX, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THESE STREETS THAT ARE SO TIGHT CAT? TAKE YOUR CAR. BOTH SIDES LIKE CHIEF OF SAYING. DO WE ELIMINATE PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET? WHERE DID THEY GO? SO. JUST AS A REFERENCE. TODAY I WAS AND I DROVE BY HYDE PARK. AND THERE WAS A TRAILER THAT'S USED FOR SOME EVENT COMPANY. IT LOOKED LIKE UM, FAIRLY SMALL TRAILER. AND CLOSED. IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE FOR ONE OF THESE POP UP ENTERTAINMENT THINGS AND IT WAS CHALKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET. YOU KNOW SOME OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND MARRIED KIND OF JUMPING THE HEAD, MAYBE TO DO SOMETHING, BUT LET'S JUST FIGHT THIS OFF A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. I MEAN, IF WE CAN GET THE ORDERS WHERE WE WANT IT, BUT LET'S DEAL WITH WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT TO SEE? WHAT DO YOU WHAT KIND OF CALLS DO YOU WANT TO FIELD? UM AND DO YOU WANT US TO FEEL WHEN WE GET THESE CALLS COME IN. AND OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS LEGAL. UM OR NO? YEAH, WE CAN GET SOMEBODY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T BE OUT THERE FOR THE STREET. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT? AH ASSISTANT CHIEF FREEZE MENTIONED EARLIER. WE HAVEN'T IN THESE ORDINANCES WHERE WE TALK ABOUT TRACTOR TRAILERS. BUT THEN WE IT'S A COMMA AND WE TALKED ABOUT TRAILERS AND THEY'RE IN THE SAME MORNINGS. SO SOME OF IT I TALKED TO MR HAGAR. HEY, HOW ABOUT WE JUST DEFINE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. UM HE WASN'T SURE HE LIKED THAT IDEA BECAUSE YOU GET INTO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT WE CAN REVISIT THAT. BUT IF WE CAN PAINT THE PICTURE, Y'ALL PAINT THE PICTURE ON WHICH I WANT THESE RESIDENTIAL STREETS TO LOOK LIKE AND WE CAN WORK. THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE UNIQUE BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT SIZE STREETS. AND MAYBE A START FOR US BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID TO US IS THAT WE START WITH THE DEFINITION OF A STREET WITH AND YOU START TO DO A PROHIBITION. I MEAN, I KNOW IF SOMEONE'S COMING TO VISIT YOU,

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IT'S NOT FEASIBLE. AND SO MAYBE WE CAN DEFINE IT BY THE SIZE OF THE STREETS AS A START AND GET INTO WITH, UM STREET. AS A BEGINNING POINT, AND IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT, STRETCH IT. THIS DOESN'T AT LEAST ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE'RE HAVING. THEN WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT. MOST OF US ARE STATICS. I'VE BEEN IN CITIES THAT PROHIBIT HARVEY'S COMPLETELY. YOU CAN'T EVEN PARK IN YOUR DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT TO BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES HAVE DIFFERENT BUT AS A GENERATION HAS STARTED TO MOVE TO PEOPLE, MOBILE, YOU SEE THEM. MORE FREQUENTLY, BUT IT REQUIRES SPECIAL PARKING IN THE BACK, AND HE WAS LIKE THAT FOR THEM. AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO JUST THINK WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IS FROM THE ORDINANCE WE DEVELOP IS DO YOU WANT MORE OR LESS TEACH, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE TIME WORKS, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK IN ALL SCENARIOS. AND SO WHY DON'T WE BRING BACK A FEW EXAMPLES OF THINGS BEFORE WE START FULL THROTTLE WITH A WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE? SOMETIMES LATE JANUARY BECAUSE JANUARY WAS THAT WORK FOR EVERYONE. WORKS FOR US. THANK YOU. UM, FOLKS, WE ARE PAST OUR TIME. YOU HAVE A MARTYR ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. WE GET THROUGH IT QUICKLY. CITY SECRETARY TRYING TO FIND A STATE ? YES, SIR. COUNCIL THE WAY IT STARTED OUT AS A WE HAD SOME LEFTOVER APPLICANTS TO BE INTERVIEWED BY THE MARRIAGE COUNSELOR, BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS. WE LOOKED AT THE DATES AND DATES CLOSE TO THANKSGIVING. YOU DIDN'T WORK OUT. AND WHAT'S HAPPENING SOMETIMES IS THAT WE GET REAL CLOSE, BUT WE DON'T GET EVERYBODY AND IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETIMES IT FEELS IT MUST FEEL LIKE TO THE PERSON IS NOT ABLE TO GET THEIR SCHEDULING MANAGED TO INTEND WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. SORT OF LIKE THEY'RE BEING LEFT OUT AND THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE . AND WE WANT ALL OF YOU PARTICIPATE. SO THE QUESTION IS . WE KNOW IT TAKES FOUR OF YOU TO MAKE A DECISION. UM IN A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. AND IF THERE WAS ANOTHER DAY THAT YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER MORE. THE DATE AND THEN THOSE WHO CAN ATTEND. IN NUMBERS OF FOUR OR MORE ACCEPTABLE TO THE COUNCIL.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THANK YOU. COMBAT, I THINK. I THINK WHAT CITY SECRETARY IS TRYING TO GET US TO SAY IS THAT WE WILL FIND A DATE THAT'S MOST AGREEABLE TO EVERYBODY FOR FOUR. IF WE CAN FIND FOUR. WE'LL GO AHEAD WITH THAT THREE CAN'T MAKE IT. HAVE TO GO OUT WITH THIS. I THINK IT'S BASICALLY WHAT I'M HEARING. WE WILL CONTINUE ON AS A QUARREL AND VERY BAD. WELL WHAT'S THE WORD WILL STRIVE TO GET ALL SEVEN IF WE POSSIBLY CAN. IF WE CAN'T. WE WILL MOVE ON MANY AS WE CAN GET TO HAVE A QUORUM. THAT'S CERTAINLY YOUR PROJECT JUST JUST MCBURNETT, ONE OF THE ISSUES. BUT WE HAVE SOME OPENINGS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH TO FILL THE OPENINGS. AND I WOULD RATHER MUCH RATHER DOING ON FISHING DOING IT. ONE SLAVE VERSUS SPECIAL MEETING TO PUT ONE OR TWO ON SPECIAL, MAYBE PUT ANOTHER TWO ON I GUESS I WOULD. YES THIS COUNCIL SO TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE TO GET ASKED THEM TO VOLUNTEER. MM BOARDS AS WELL. SO WHAT LOCALS LINES MR MCBURNETT? WOULD WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT TO SCHEDULE ONE OR TWO INTERVIEWS DOING A NORMAL CITY COUNCIL DAY. WE TAKE TIME DURING A BRIEFING SESSIONS. DELIVERY CUT DOWN ON THAT BRIEFING SESSION SCHEDULED ONE HOUR FOR INTERVIEWS DURING A NORMAL COUNCIL. THEY WOULD MOST OF US ARE TRYING TO REACH EACH OTHER OTHER 1ST AND 3RD TUESDAY. THAT BE THE CASE. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL TRY AND FILL AS MANY AS WE CAN ON THE SPOT BASIS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DO 15 OR 20. AND JUST THE BEST WE CAN HEAR IT IS STRIVING TO GET PEOPLE INTO PLACES. AND BUT AT THE SAME TIME TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE OUR SCHEDULES, WHICH ARE VERY, VERY COMPLEX TO TRY AND GET SOME SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? WELL COULD ALSO CONSIDER AND I DON'T KNOW. PUT FOLKS OUT OF WORKING FEASIBLE. THIS IS WHAT WE CONSIDER COMING IN A LITTLE BIT EARLY. RATHER THAN SIX O'CLOCK TO KNOCK A COUPLE OF THOSE OUT. ON A REGULAR COUNCIL DAY. ON A REAL ACCOUNT. YEAH BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE DONE THAT. WE'VE DONE A FIVE ROOM 5 32 0 THEIR FIRST OR THIRD TUESDAY. HE WORKED WITH THAT CITY MANAGER. ABSOLUTELY. ALRIGHT VERY GOOD. SO DO WE HAVE IS THERE ANY DATE THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED. WORK THEM OVER ANYBODY THAT FOR THE FIFTH AND 13TH CAME UP AND I SAID

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[CALL TO ORDER]

FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS CENTER AGENDA IS THE INVOCATION PASTOR BILL ENGELHARDT FROM FAITH BAPTIST CHURCH, PLEASE RISE. LET US INVOKE GOD. GOD WHO IS SPIRIT, LIGHT AND LOVE. GUIDE THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING. GOD WHO IS SPIRIT. WE ASK FOR YOUR PRESENCE IN THIS COUNCIL CHAMBER. TO TOUCH OUR MINDS AND HEARTS. WE ALSO ASKED FOR YOUR PRESENCE TO PROTECT ALL DUNCANVILLE PUBLIC SERVANTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO SERVE AND PROTECT POLICE AND FIREMEN. GOD WHO IS LIGHT. WE ASK FOR ENLIGHTENMENT TO KNOW AND TO DO YOUR WILL. TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE CITIZENS OF DUNCANVILLE. GOD, WHO IS LOVE. WHO REVEALED YOUR LOVE AT THE FIRST CHRISTMAS. WE ASKED FOR HUMILITY , HUMILITY OF CHRIST. HUMILITY HE SHOWED WHEN HE BECAME FULLY HUMAN AND LOVED US. GOD WHO IS SPIRIT, LIGHT AND LOVE. WE THANK YOU FOR HEARING AND ANSWERING OUR PETITIONS. AMEN. THANK YOU BASTARD. PLEASE JOIN ME IN PLEDGES TO OUR FLAG. UNITED STATES. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IS SAYING. INVISIBLE. THAT WAS ONE THING. ONE. VISIBLE. THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEEING. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER ONE ON

[1. REPORTS]

SO WITH THAT I AM ASKING FOR A MOTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO ALLOW ME TO EXCEED THREE MINUTES FOR MY MIRRORS. MOVED SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, TO ACCEPT MY THREE MINUTE UH, TIME AND EXCESS BY MR KOONTZ AND THE SECOND ONE, MR MACK BURNETT. PLEASE VOTE ON ACCEPTING MY EXCEEDING THE THREE MINUTES FROM THE MAYOR'S REPORT. OUR BOARD IS DARK. ROLL CALL MR BARRY CRUZ.

MR MCBURNETT. WITH NOTES. AND MYSELF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY TO EXCEED THREE MINUTES. FIRST ITEM I WANT TO COVER IS ITEM FIVE. LET ME GET TO IT. ITEM FIVE B. ON OUR AGENDA FOR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. THE LAST TIME THAT THIS ITEM WAS ON OUR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. I RECUSED MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM. AND I WILL DO SO AGAIN TONIGHT. AND THERE HAVE

[01:10:01]

I MANAGE SOME PROPERTIES. FOR SOMEONE. AND I RECEIVED COMPENSATION FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT PROPERTY. AND ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES IS WITHIN 200 FT PERIMETER. THE WHEATLAND PLAZA. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PACKAGE AND LOOK AT THOSE ADDRESSES IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PERCEIVED LETTERS IN TERMS OF FOUR OR AGAINST WHAT GOES ON WITH WHEATLAND PLAZA, I RECEIVED ONE OF THOSE LETTERS. SO IN THAT ASPECT, I HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. SO I HAVE ONCE AGAIN RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS PARTICULAR DISCUSSION, AND I HAVE FILED A CONFLICT OF INTEREST STATEMENT WITH THE CITY SECRETARY OF THIS DATE. THAT'S WHY I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND. WHY DOES THE MAYOR GET UP AND LEAVE WHEN WE LAND PLAZA DISCUSSED? THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF IT. THAT'S THE HARD STUFF TOO EASY STUFF NOW. FIRST THING I WANT TO DO IS THANK OUR PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF, MR STEVENSON AND NOELLE GARCIA FOR A FABULOUS PARADE ON DECEMBER 2ND AND MOVING THE VENUE TO ARMSTRONG PARK NOW HAS OPEN TO OUR PUBLIC AND I SEE CHILDREN OVER THERE LOOKING AT CHRISTMAS TREE EVEN TONIGHT. SECONDLY I WANT TO THANK OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND DUNCANVILLE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT SUPERINTENDENT MARK SMITH. FOR HIS COOPERATION IN THE CHAMBERS , SUPPORT OF TOYS AND JOYS, WHICH IS A DECEMBER 4TH CONCERT. WHICH WAS A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY EVENT WITH A LOT OF CHOIRS, CHILDREN'S CHOIRS AND ONE ALSO RECOGNIZES COUNCIL MEMBER MCBURNETT COUNCIL MEMBER CONTRERAS AND COUNCIL MEMBER CHERRY WERE PRESENT FOR THAT.

AND IT WAS REALLY A WONDERFUL OH, MR VERA CRUZ WAS THERE AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING. IT WAS REALLY A GREAT EVENT. NEXT ITEM I WANTED TO COVER REAL QUICKLY IS I RECEIVED A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS THANKING US AS A CITY FOR PUTTING EXERCISE EQUIPMENT AND RED BIRD PARK. UH SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DID DISCUSS. IN FACT, I WAS UP THERE TODAY, AND SOME PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY USING THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF. AND THE LAST ITEM THAT I WANT TO COVER IS COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR IS THURSDAY 12 O'CLOCK IN THE SENIOR CENTER ANYBODY WISHES TO ATTEND. PLEASE DO SO THAT CONCLUDES THE MAYOR'S REPORT MY WITHIN TIME OR DETECT SEATED COVERED IT. OKAY, WELL, WE'RE UP NOW. ALL RIGHT, SO THAT CONCLUDES THE MAYOR'S REPORT.

GOING ON ANY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, REPORTS. OKAY, REMEMBER CHERRY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO INVITE ALL OF THEM ANYONE FROM DISTRICT FOUR OUT ON SATURDAY AT THE SENIOR BUILDING, FROM 10 30 TO 12 FOR COFFEE AND COCOA WILL HAVE GAS GARCIA, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING A NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES . I'M SORRY, JEREMY, TENANT FROM DIRECTOR PUT SERVICES AND GUS GARCIA FROM MANAGING DIRECTOR. OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SUPPORTS SEEING NONE MOVING ON CITY MANAGERS REPORT. I'M GOING TO YIELD MY TIME. THE POLICE CHIEF HAS ASKED TO DO A PRESENTATION AND IT MAY TAKE OVER THREE MINUTES AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IF COUNSEL WOULD BE WILLING TO INDULGE HIS PRESENTATION TIME. BUT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT AS A THREE MINUTE EXCEPTION, SO CHEERILY PRETENDED AN EMOTION TO SECOND MOVED BY. MR COMPARISON SECOND BY MR MCBURNETT COUNCIL, PLEASE VOTE ON EXCEEDING THREE MINUTES FOR THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED MR UH, CHIEF LOVING ME. YOU. MAYOR COU. UM ALMOST DAILY. POLICE OFFICERS DOING INCREDIBLE JOB. AS YOU SEE , THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM HERE TONIGHT. BUT RIGHT NOW, I'D LIKE TO CALL TWO OF THEM SPECIFICALLY TO THE FRONT SERGEANT RON MCCARTY. AND OFFICER DARIUS ROGERS. AS THEY COME UP. I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU AN EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THERE WAS SOME INCIDENTS THAT THEY DO DAILY. THAT IS. IT'S JUST INCREDIBLE WORK, BUT SOME OF THE INCIDENTS ARE SO PROFOUND. AND IN THIS CASE, LIFE SAVING THAT WE THINK IT IMPORTANT TO COME UP AND PRESENT THESE TYPES OF AWARDS. UH IN FRONT OF YOU ARE GOVERNING BODY AND IN FRONT OF OUR CITIZENS. SO ON SEPTEMBER 30TH 2022 AT APPROXIMATELY 1 43 AM THESE OFFICERS WERE DISPATCHED TO A CALL FOR SERVICE AT A DONUT SHOP REGARDING ANOMALY. ONE CALL FROM A FEMALE STATING THAT HER HUSBAND HAD JUST COLLAPSED. FURTHER SHE ADVISED THAT SHE DID NOT BELIEVE HER HUSBAND WAS BREATHING. PATROL SERGEANT RON MCCARTY. ARRIVED ON THE SCENE WITHIN A MINUTE AND OBSERVED THE MALE WAS ON THE FLOOR. UNCONSCIOUS, NOT BREATHING. AND HAD NO PULSE. HE IMMEDIATELY BEGAN CPR. AT APPROXIMATELY 1 45 IN THE MORNING. PATROL OFFICER DARIUS ROGERS. ARRIVED ON THE SCENE TO ASSIST HE CONTINUALLY MONITOR THE MALES PULSE AND ALERTED

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DUNCANVILLE E. M S CHIEF KEVIN BRAG ADVISED THAT OUR PERSONNEL PLAYED A CRITICAL ROLE IN THE MALES SURVIVING A SIGNIFICANT HEART ATTACK. AND ARE DESERVING FOR THEIR LIFE SAVING EFFORTS.

SO AT THIS POINT, WE'LL SEE A BRIEF CLIP OF WHAT TOOK PLACE THAT MORNING.

NO CULTURE IN THAT. YES, SIR. I CAN'T TELL YES. ONE ON THE RIDGE. SO AGAIN, IT'S A REAL BRIEF CLIP. BUT IT'S A REAL LIFE AND OBVIOUSLY IT TOOK LONGER AS I MENTIONED TWO MINUTES OF CHEST COMPRESSIONS. THE MEDICS ARRIVED. HE TURNED OUT TO HAVE HAD A HEART ATTACK. BUT THEY SAY AND FOR THAT, I THINK WE OUGHT TO APPLAUD THEIR EFFORTS.

ONE SECOND I WANT TO PRESENT THE AWARDS. IF YOU PICTURES WOULD YOU ALL LIKE FOR YOUR FAMILY COMING UP REAL QUICK.

THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER AND THANK YOU, CHIEF. LEVICK ME CHIEF FREEZE AND CHIEF STAGNER AND OFFICERS MCCARTY WILLIAMS. WE HAVE OFTEN RECOGNIZED OUR POLICE FORCE IS BEING THE BEST IN THE WORLD. AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE. OF THE EXEMPLARY INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR SERVICE. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY FORMAL PROCLAMATIONS OF PRESENTATIONS MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE CITIZENS INPUT PURSUANT TO

[3. CITIZENS' INPUT]

HOWEVER, THE ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DELIVERING ANY ISSUES IN THE PUBLIC IN THE EYE AND NON AGENDA. IT'S JUST MAYBE REFERRED TO CITY STAFF FOR RESEARCH. AND THEN IF YOU TRACTION, ALL PERSONS ADDRESSING THE SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED RULES AND LIMITATIONS AND THOSE RULES AND LIMITATIONS FOR THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, ANY COMMENTS ARE MADE ARE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES. INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL HAVE SUBMITTED CARDS TO ME. I DO HAVE THOSE CARDS IN FRONT OF ME AND KEEP HIM WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S RULES PROCEDURE ADOPTED OCTOBER OF 18 2022 ELECTRONIC MAIL COMPETENCE WILL NO LONGER BE READ. HOWEVER THOSE COMMENTS ARE PROVIDED TO EACH OF US THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEY DO BECOME PART OF THE RECORD FOR THE MINUTES OF THIS PARTICULAR MEETING. WE HAVE. FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM FIVE B. AS IS THE PRACTICE OF THIS CITY COUNCIL WHEN THERE ARE CITIZEN COMMENTS THAT ARE ADDRESSING A PARTICULAR ITEM IN THE AGENDA SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE HAVE AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING, WE RESERVE THOSE COMMENTS TO BE MADE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING WHETHER DIDN'T CITIZEN COMMENT PORTION SO THIS WILL INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED FORWARD DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM FIVE B. BROTHER CITY COMMENTS THAT I HAVE THE FIRST ONE I HAVE IS ANDY ARMSTRONG. AND ALL INDIVIDUALS COMING FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE

[01:20:07]

YOU'VE NOW HEARD THEIR SPOKESPERSON, AS UH, WITH THE COMMENTS, AND I'M HEARING THAT WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT WHENEVER THEY WENT FOR MANDATORY TRAINING CITY PROTOCOL IS ALWAYS BEEN TO PRE PAY THE TRAVEL EXPENSES, THE HOTEL AND THE TRAINING VENDORS AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN AND A COUPLE OF INSTANCES AND THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE CONTENDING WITH THE BILLS NOT BEING PAID BY THE CITY. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. AND I AM CONCERNED I HAD NEVER MET. THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE FOR THE ASSOCIATION, BUT I'M CONCERNED LISTENING TO WHAT HE SAID. WHAT I DO KNOW, THOUGH, IS THAT THE CITY'S BUDGET IS BASED ON BORROWING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OFF ITS CREDIT RATING. SO IF WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE PAYING OUR BILLS HOW THERE'S OUR CREDIT RATING BEEN EFFECTED. WE HAVE NOT HAD A MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT OR INVESTMENT REPORT FOR MONTHS. SO LET'S TALK MONEY. HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN OUR CITY BUDGET? THANK YOU. NEXT COMMENT CARD IS FROM BRIAN KEYSER. GOOD EVENING, BRIAN KEYSER 100 SOUTH MAIN STREET. I HAD TWO ISSUES THAT I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT. UH LAST WEEK, I WAS PRETTY DISAPPOINTED

[01:25:05]

DIVERTING SALES, DIVERTING A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE SPEND ABOUT 90 DAYS. PLANNING FOR BUT THAT COMMUNICATION I DON'T FEEL SHOULD ONLY GO ONE WAY I DO FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME COMMUNICATION WITH DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES WHEN THERE IS A SEVERE BUSINESS DISRUPTION ABOUT TO HAPPEN. UH THAT WE INVEST MONEY IN THAT WE PLANNED FOR AND THAT WE EXPECT TO SEE A RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT FOR UM SO GOING FORWARD A ALL REACH OUT MORE OFTEN TO ENSURE THAT THAT CONNECTION IS MADE, BUT THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN. THIS IS THE FOURTH YEAR AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED FOR THE THREE PREVIOUS YEARS, SO UM I WOULD JUST HOPE FOR A BETTER COMMUNICATION. IN THE FUTURE, UM, ON PARADE ROUTES, THINGS LIKE THAT. UH SECOND THING FIVE A. THAT'S COMING UP. LATER FOR 15,000 FOR THE OFFICIAL VISITORS CENTER. I DON'T FEEL THAT THAT VISITOR CENTER PUTS HEADS IN BEDS FOR THAT HOT TAX FUND. THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ISN'T SUPPORTIVE OF ALL BUSINESSES IN TOWN. AND THE LANDSCAPING FEES THINGS LIKE THAT ARE NOT GENERATING MORE HEADS AND BEDS FOR THAT HOTEL MONEY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS EMILY BRIDGES. OPEN UP MY NOTES HERE. GOOD EVENING. EMILY BRIDGES FOR 18 OLEANDER STREET 75137. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A QUOTE GIVEN BY ONE OF OUR OWN CITY OFFICIALS BACK IN APRIL 2022 REGARDING THE WHEATLAND PLAZA RENOVATION. WHAT TYPICALLY TAKES MONTHS TO ACCOMPLISH WAS DONE IN WEEKS WITH THE SAME DILIGENCE AND ATTENTION TO DETAIL OUR CITIZENS EXPECT OF US. THIS PERSON CONTINUED WITH EXCITEMENT WITH POSITIVE WITH WHAT POSITIVE CHANGES WOULD BE FORTHCOMING WITH THIS PROJECT. THE LAD PROPERTY ALREADY RECEIVES THIS KIND OF EXCITEMENT FROM OUR CITIZENS MINUS THE $1.5 MILLION ADVANCE IN ITS NATURAL STATE. ITS FUNDING NEEDED. TO PRESERVE, RESTORE AND CHERISH THE LAND. YES UNFORTUNATELY, THE CITY APPOINTED COMMITTEE CANNOT RAISE FUNDING WITHOUT THE DESIGNATION OF THE LAND THROUGH AN ORDINANCE IN SHORT RESOLUTIONS ARE GENERALLY LESS PERMANENT THAN ORDINANCES AND RESPECTFULLY IS NOT WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE ASKING OR SIGNED A PETITION FOR WE WANT AND NEED THIS LAND DESIGNATED THROUGH AN ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT PERMANENT. THEN VOLUNTEERS CAN START THEIR WORK AND THE COMMITTEE CAN START TO RAISED FUNDS. AFTER A LITTLE HOMEWORK, I FOUND THAT THE DUNCANVILLE CITIZEN BOND ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF 2018 MANAGED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE THEM REVIEWED AND MANAGED TO GET A $21 MILLION BOND ON THE BALLOT IN LESS TIME THAN YOU HAVE BEEN UNDECIDED ON THIS PIECE OF LAND.

THE CITIZENS DO HAVE EXPECTATIONS WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO REPEAT THE EARLIER QUOTE WITH WHAT TYPICALLY TAKES MONTHS TO ACCOMPLISH WAS DONE IN WEEKS WITH THE SAME DILIGENCE AND ATTENTION TO DETAIL OUR CITIZENS EXPECT OF US. THANK YOU. NEXT COMMENT CARD IS FROM RON THOMPSON. ALRIGHT, WE'RE ON THOMPSON, SIX OR THREE CATHERINE COURT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. UM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ORDINANCE FOR THE LAD PROPERTY IN ORDINANCES IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IS THE SINGLE THING THAT ALLOWS US AS ADVOCATES AND FUNDRAISERS TO RAISE FUNDS FROM INSTITUTIONAL FUNDERS AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITY WHEN BOB LADD DROVE IN FROM HIGHLAND PARK TO DUNCANVILLE TO SEE OUR PLAN AND CELEBRATED UNTIL HIS FRIENDS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN DUNCANVILLE, WE HAVE COME BACK TO HIM AND SAID, WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW. WE CAN DO THIS, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW. WE CAN DO THIS, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW. OUR COMMITTEE HAS FULFILLED EVERY SINGLE PROMISE WE HAVE MADE TO THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS COUNCIL THERE'S NO REASON TO EXPECT THAT WE CAN'T DO FUNDRAISING TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY THE WAY THAT WE NEED TO IN A CITY WHERE OVER 90% IS CEMENT. THERE IS A PLACE FOR

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THERE IS A PLACE WHERE WE CAN BRING PEOPLE IN TO TALK ABOUT THE RESEARCH AND TO THE ANIMAL LIFE AND HAVE THE CONFERENCES AROUND THE NATURAL SPACE. THEY CAN'T HAVE IT. AT THE AT THE LAB , BUT THEY CAN HAVE IT AT ONE OF THESE PLACES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THERE ARE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING SOCIAL ENTREPRENEURS AND TO DUNCANVILLE TO LOOK AT WHAT THIS AMAZING SPACE WE HAVE. AND I ASK YOU AGAIN. WE NEED THE ORDINANCE. WE'RE NOT OBSTINATE. THAT'S JUST THE TOOL WE NEED TO DELIVER FURTHER AND OUR PROMISE TO THIS COUNCIL IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. YOU. DIANA SHELTON. OH I'M SORRY. SHE SAYS SHE DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. AND SHE SUPPORTS THE LEAD PROPERTY AND WHEATLAND PLAZA WITH NO FURTHER EXPLANATION. DIANA SHELTON HERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. MARK GRAHAM. MORE GRAHAM FOR 10 SANTA FE TRAIL. UM SOME OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, BUT I'LL DO IT REAL SIMPLY. WE CAN'T RAISE FUNDS WITHOUT AN ORDINANCE. THAT UNDERSTOOD WITH PEOPLE THAT WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING UNLESS Y'ALL DECIDE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PERMANENCE INVOLVED WITH THAT LAND DOWN THERE. I'M NOT ALSO SAY THIS. WHEN YOU ALL DECIDED WHEN THE CITY ATTORNEY THANKFULLY, AGREED IN A MEETING THAT YES, THAT IS PUBLIC LAND. AND CITIZENS CAN USE IT. WITHIN DAYS. YOUR HEAD SIGNS UP.

STATING. USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK. EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALREADY COVERED BY WHATEVER INSURANCE YOU WILL HAVE ITS COVERED BUT Y'ALL Y'ALL DID THAT WITHIN DAYS. 20 SOMETHING SIGNS WENT UP JUST RINGING. I MEAN, JUST ABSOLUTELY ALL THE WAY AROUND THAT LAND. FEW MONTHS AGO, I ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF SIGNS SAYING NO. FOUR WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLES. I ASKED FOR A FEW POST TO BLOCK OFF A COUPLE OF TRAILHEADS. I ASKED IF WE COULD BLOCK OFF A COUPLE OF THE ENTRANCES OFF DANIEL DALE ROAD. CRICKETS. NOT ONE THING IF I HEARD SINCE PRIORITIES. THAT LAND RIGHT NOW NEEDS HELP. EITHER YOU DECIDE YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. ARE YOU PUMPED? AND I'M SICK OF GOING DOWN THERE AND SEEING MORE AND MORE. THREE SIXTIES CUT INTO THAT LAND WHEN IT COULD BE STOPPED. AT YOUR CHOICE. THANK YOU. SHANNON ROBERTS. SHANNON ROBERTS, 906 ROCK CANYON. I'M ALSO HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE LAB PROPERTY AND THE ORDINANCE. SO WHEN WE WERE HERE, LAST TIME RESOLUTION WAS OFFERED, AND WE'RE SO APPRECIATIVE AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RESOLUTION IN AN ORDINANCE, SO I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH IN HERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT I'VE LEARNED. THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ENACTING AN ORDINANCE CANNOT BE BYPASSED BY SIMPLY PASSING A RESOLUTION. WHAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE CONCERNED CITIZENS IS WE NEED WE REQUIRE AN ORDINANCE TO DO WHAT WE BELIEVE NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND WE THOUGHT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF WHAT THE PLANS AND THE DESIRES WERE FOR THE CITIZENS PER THE PETITION. A RESOLUTION GENERALLY STATES A POSITION OR POLICY OF A CITY. AN ORDINANCE IS MORE FORMAL AND AUTHORITATIVE. IT'S MORE SO THAN A RESOLUTION IN ORDINANCES, A LOCAL LAW TO REGULATE PEOPLE AND PROPERTY. AND RELATES TO A MATTER OF GENERAL AND PERMANENT NATURE. AS YOU'VE HEARD. WE CANNOT DO. THE CITIZENS CAN'T DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITHOUT HAVING AN ORDINANCE. SO WE'RE READY. WE'VE BEEN WAITING WE CAN CANNOT AS YOU'VE HEARD RAISE FUNDS. WE HAVE FREE MONEY GRANT MONEY THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD, WE WILL ARE WELL QUALIFIED FOR IF WE PASS AN ORDINANCE. SO WE HAVE GRANTS. WE HAVE FREE LABOR. ALL OF THE STUDENTS CITIZENS HERE THAT WANT TO HELP. WE HAVE SCOUTS READY TO DO THEIR EAGLE PROJECTS. SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE PUT ON YOUR AGENDA AND ORDINANCE FOR THE LAD PROPERTY SO WE CAN MOVE

[01:35:06]

RIGHT SMILING 6 23 SOUTH ALEXANDER AVENUE. OVER THE YEARS HUMAN POPULATION GROWTH IN NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS. IT'S RISEN RAPIDLY, WHILE WILD AREAS HAVE LARGELY DISAPPEARED. THE EXACT TREES AND PLANTS THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN TO SURROUND OUR HOMES AND BUSINESSES WITH AND THE POISONS AND PROCEDURES CURRENTLY USED TO KEEP THE OUTDOORS. FIRMLY UNDER OUR CONTROL HAVE LED TO FRACTURED ECOSYSTEMS THAT ARE WILDLY OUT OF BALANCE. TO CONSIDER HOW DISRUPTED OUR CITY ECOSYSTEM IS, LET'S LOOK BACK A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO THE EARLY DAYS OF OCTOBER. ALMOST OVERNIGHT, THE LEAVES OF ALL THE SUGAR BERRY TREES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DISAPPEARED.

REPLACED BY GHOSTLY WEBS THAT MADE HALLOWEEN SCARY AND A NEW AND HIGHLY DISCONCERTING WAY.

THIS PLAGUE WAS CAUSED BY A LEAF ROLLER MOTH THAT IS USUALLY KEPT IN CHECK BY VARIOUS BIRDS AND PREDATORY INSECTS. AT THE SAME TIME, CON LEAF APHIDS ALSO EXPLODED OUT OF CONTROL AND EVERY SURFACE ANYWHERE NEAR A PECAN TREE BECAME COVERED IN A THERAPY GOO THAT MADE BEING OUTDOORS. VERY UNPLEASANT FOR US AND OUR FOUR LEGGED FAMILY MEMBERS. AS A NATURALIST. I WAS EAGER TO SEE WHAT EFFECT THIS WAS HAVING ON LAD LAND, AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THERE WAS NONE. ALL OF THE NATURAL CONTROLS WERE IN PLACE AND OPERATING EFFICIENTLY. THE SUGAR BERRY TREES STILL HAVE LEAVES. AND HOORAY! THERE WAS NO SYRUPY GOO. JUST DO A PLAGUE EVENT SHOULD PROVIDE A POTENT WARNING THAT AS A FRACTURED ECOSYSTEMS EDGE CLOSER TO COLLAPSE. THEY THREATENED NOT ONLY OUR GENERAL WELFARE, BUT EVENTUALLY OUR VERY EXISTENCE. THE CITIZENS OF DUNCANVILLE OR REQUESTING A NATURE PRESERVE, NOT ANOTHER PARK RECREATIONAL CENTER GLADLY AND MUST BE VIEWED AS AN ESSENTIAL REPOSITORY FOR THE WIDEST NUMBER OF NATIVE SPECIES POSSIBLE. DIVERSITY CREATES STABILITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU THAT CONCLUDES OUR CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD. WE GOT TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ONE ITEM THAT I WILL MENTION

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

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[5. ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION (Part 1 of 2)]

AND A BND ALLEY MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 40 TO WHEATLAND ROAD CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. AND WITH THAT READING, I AM RECUSING MYSELF FROM THIS PARTICULAR ITEM TIMESTAMP ON THIS CITY SECRETARY IS 7 58. THANK YOU. AND I'M TURNING THE MEETING OVER TO MAYOR PRO TEM JOE VERA CRUZ. ALRIGHT. GOOD. GOOD EVENING. FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA DO IS GONNA LET THE CITY ATTORNEY EXPLAINED. KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE TODAY. GO AHEAD, SIR.

OKAY SO ADAM FIVE B WAS CONTINUED FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS OF THE COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER, AND THE COMMENTS REMAIN PART OF THE RECORD AND REMAIN AS CONSIDERATIONS. THE COUNCIL'S GOING TO REOPEN THE HEARING TONIGHT BUT PREVIOUSLY EXPRESSED COMMENTS ARE PART OF THE RECORD AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE CONSIDERED. OKAY? SO MOTION OPENED UP. SO MOVED AGAIN. GET OCEAN MOTION TO OPEN UP BY COUNCIL MEMBER COOTS SAID GOODBYE. DON MCBURNETT, PLEASE VOTE ON THAT. ALRIGHT, UNANIMOUS. GO AHEAD, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. BASICALLY THIS IS LIKE THE MISSION BEFORE BY CITY ATTORNEY THEY. CAN YOU ALL HELP ME NOW? OKAY THANK YOU. SO AS MENTIONED BEFORE THIS IS BASICALLY A CONTINUATION OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING. THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS THAT YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHICH WE CAN TOUCH UPON FOR YOUR TO BRING YOUR BODY TO SPEED, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE POWER THE POWER POINT PRESENTATION FROM PREVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO GET INTO WE CAN GO BACK AND DO IT AS WELL.

BUT IT JUST BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT OCCURRED AT THE NOVEMBER 15TH MEETING. THERE WERE CERTAIN ITEMS LIKE THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THAT WAS ACTUALLY DEFINED. WE MENTIONED THAT IT WAS DEFINED. IT WAS A SEPARATE ATTACHMENT. WE'VE INCLUDED IT AS ATTACHMENT AS A AS A AS A DIFFERENT UM, APPENDIX IN THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEFORE YOU IN THE LATEST EDITION OF EVERYTHING IS DEFINED AS UP HERE. I WON'T GO INTO SPECIFICS UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEFINITION. OKAY I'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG THE EVENT CENTER WAS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT CAME INTO PLACE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT. THERE WAS A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT IT BE PERMITTED. THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AS A PERMITTED IT. I AM ITEM OR PERMITTED USE OR A QUOTE UNQUOTE CONDITIONAL USE UNDER THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. WE TALKED TO THE APPLICANT CAME TO A AGREEMENT. IF YOU WILL, THAT WE COULD LOOK AT THIS POTENTIALLY AS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, WHICH MEANS THAT THE EVENTS CENTER WOULD COME BACK

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WE ALSO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER THE, UH, MIXED USE COMPONENT OF THE CENTRAL PORTION IF YOU RECALL FROM THE SITE PLAN FOR THE MOM FOR THE MULTI FAMILY WITHIN THE CENTER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THERE IS A PERCENTAGE OF 20% ON THE GROUND FLOOR. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT WE DISCUSSED SOME PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH THE LAST MEETING ON THE 15TH. THAT THEY'RE ALSO AMENABLE AS WELL, TOO. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS CONCERNS REGARDING THAT. OKAY NEXT ITEM THAT CAME UP AT THIS AT THE 15TH MEETING AS WELL. WAS THE ALCOHOL OR THE ALLOWANCE OF ALCOHOL AT THE PARTICULAR SITE AT THE EVENTS THAT ARE BEING ONE OF THOSE VISITORS ANYTHING WITHIN 300 FT OF A SCHOOL WITHIN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE SPECIFIES THAT IT HAS TO COME BEFORE THE VARIANTS BEFORE THIS BODY IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE APPROVED, SO THERE IS A CHECK AND BALANCE ON ANY ENTITY THAT ACTUALLY REFERS REQUESTS ALCOHOL. WHICH IS A PUBLIC MEETING BEFORE AGAIN.

LIKE I SAID, THIS BODY AND AGAIN, THE PRESENTATION FOR THE 15TH IS UP HERE JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY SPECIFICS OR ANYTHING. I DON'T WANT TO GET BELIEVER THAT BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY GIVEN NICELY BY MR WARREN, THE LAST MEETING AND THERE'S SOME OTHER ITEMS AS WELL. LANDSCAPING. OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. AHEAD, MR COATES. THANK YOU WITH THE 300 FT SEPARATION.

FOR ALCOHOL ESTABLISHMENTS. HOW MANY OF THOSE SPACES OR OUTSIDE OF THAT 300. FOOT. SPACING. WE HAVE NOT CONDUCTED ANY CALCULATIONS IN THAT REGARD, BUT AS THEY COME IN AS ANYTHING THE ENTITY THAT COMES IN FOR CALCULATION FOR ABC WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE MEASUREMENT TRIANGLE, AND IT GOES BEFORE A CITY SECRETARY AS AN APPLICATION, AND THEN IT GOES TO THE ENTITY BODY. IT GOES BEFORE THE CITY SECRETARY AND THEN IT ALSO GOES BEFORE THE BODIES OF BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND ALSO PLANNING TO PREFER THE DISTANCE. THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE SCHOOL. SO IT'S THE PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE THIS IS ONE LOT THE PROPERTY LINE IN WHEATLAND. TWO. SO. WILL BE THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE SOUTH TO THE EAST TO THE WEST. SO THAT WOULD MEAN IF THERE'S A ESTABLISHMENT, SAYING THE FAR BACK CORNER THAT WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED NOT THE PORTAL. SO THAT WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED WITHIN 300 FT OF A SCHOOL. OKAY? SO EVEN IF IT'S IN A PART OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S 800 FT. AWAY IT'S STILL CONSIDERED 300 BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY PROPERTIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR EDGAR. MOVING ONE TO THE LINE, ESCAPING ONE OF THE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST MEETING ON THE 15TH WAS THAT OF LANDSCAPING AS AS A PROPERTY CURRENTLY ASSISTING EXISTS RIGHT NOW THERE IS VERY LITTLE ESCAPING ON THE PROPERTY. THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO ADDING CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING AND THE NEXT SLIDE. HERE IT WAS. THIS IS A VISUAL OF IT. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU THAT THEY'RE MOVING UP SPACE PRODUCING. EXCUSE ME. UP TO 20,000 SQUARE FOOT OF LANDSCAPING ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH ARE FOUND IN MINIMAL CONCERNING THE CURRENT STATUS QUO. THE PROPERTY IN THAT REGARR QUESTIONS? I'LL BE HAPPY. ACTUALLY, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN FOR YOU ALL. NOTHING RIGHT NOW. WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UM I'M SORRY, MR CONTRERAS. THAT II THOUGHT I HEARD MENTION OF IT. UM THE USE OF PERMEABLE SURFACES FOR PARKING UM. THERE'S NOT REALLY AN INDICATION HERE OF HOW MUCH AREA WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE USING THAT METHOD. I KNOW WE'VE HAD A SMALL TASTE OF PROPER APPLICATION OF THIS IN A MAYBE EIGHT PARKING SPACE. UH, LOCATION JUST NEAR BEN FRANKLIN OFF OF WESTCHESTER PERSON. UM IT SEEMS TO HAVE PERFORMED WELL.

THAT WAS FOUR VEHICLES. I'M WONDERING WHAT INFORMATION WE HAVE OVER A LARGER AREA AND WITH MORE TRAFFIC. OR IF THESE AREAS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED WOULD NOT BE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS. UM WHAT ARE THE CONTROL MEASURES TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IT IT UPHOLDS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IT WOULD BE SUBJECTED TO. NATHAN WARREN, SENIOR PLANNER. UM. FOR THE USE OF PERMIT PERMEABLE SERVICES.

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UM HE'S STILL AMENABLE TO IT. AND IN 2024 IS WHEN WE ANTICIPATE THIS CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN. HE'S OPEN TO EXPLORING THOSE POSSIBILITIES FOR CONDOMINIUMS. IF AGAIN FINANCING IS AVAILABLE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO THINGS GOING ON HERE, NUMBER ONE THE FINANCING FOR SPEC. UH CONDOMINIUMS IS CHALLENGING WITH THE INTEREST RATES AND CERTAINLY BANKS ARE AS WE KNOW, UM HAS IT INTO INVEST IN INSPECT ON, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE FINANCING BASED ON THE POTENTIAL AND NOT JUST THAT WE ALSO KNOW THE MARKET EDITIONS ALSO ARE MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR BUYERS TO BUY AT THE HIGHER INTEREST RATES. AND CONSIDERING THIS IS A HIGHER END DEVELOPMENT AND THAT THAT SPECIFIC BUILDING E IS GOING TO BE ON THE HIGHER END SCALE WHERE IT BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 1 50 TO $2 PER SQUARE FOOT. THOUGH YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND WE CAN TALK TO MR ANDERSON ABOUT THAT. I KNOW HE'S GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT HERE. AH YOU COULD BE IN THE 400 TO $500,000 RANGE FOR A CONDOMINIUM, WHICH COULD BE CHALLENGING DEPENDING ON WHAT FINANCING. AH THE APPLICANT WOULD GET SO YOU HAVE TWO PROBLEMS OCCURRING. YOU HAVE NUMBER ONE THE FINANCING TO BUILD ON SPECIFICATIONS OR SPECULATIVE CONSTRUCTION. AND NUMBER TWO, THE ABILITY TO HAVE CLIENTS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO QUALIFY OR APPLY AND PURCHASE THOSE THOSE CONDOMINIUMS. SO SPEAKING TO MR ANDERSON ABOUT THAT POSSIBILITY, HE DID SAY THAT SINCE THIS IS PHASE AND YOU SEE THE BUILDING EARS AND SEPARATE PHASES, HE WOULD BE OPEN TO POTENTIALLY DOING CONDOMINIUMS FOR SALE IF IT WAS PHASED IN, AND HE HAD READY MADE BUYERS TO PURCHASE THOSE THOSE APARTMENTS WITH THAT BEING SAID. AS YOU MAY KNOW, YOU CAN STILL BUILD APARTMENTS AND YOU CAN SELL THEM WHEN THE FINANCING TERMS ARE BETTER OR WHEN THE MARK. CONDITIONS ARE BETTER, BUT WE ALL KNOW WHEN INTEREST RATES ARE HIGH RENTAL RENTALS ARE WHAT GO AND THEN WENT STRAIGHT. ARLO PURCHASES WOULD GO AND SO WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE AND IN OUR OPINION EMPTY CONDOMINIUMS. YOU WANT THIS TO BE A THRIVING ACTIVE, YOU KNOW, CENTER WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE SHOPPING AND SALES TAX GO UP AND PROBABLY JUST GO UP, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. SO AT THE CURRENT FINANCING AND CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS. MULTI FAMILIES, PROBABLY THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE. BUT HE CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL. OKAY, MR CONTRERAS. SO, UM. TO FOLLOW ALONG THAT SAME LINE OF QUESTIONING. COULD WE EXPECT THAT? UH IF THESE ARE DEVELOPED APARTMENTS THAT THEY WOULD BE ON A PAR WITH WHAT WE SEE IT MAIN STATION. SO OBVIOUSLY, UH, AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULDN'T GET INTO THOSE SPECIFICITIES. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK THE LANDLORD OR THE OWNER. WHAT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW QUALITY HE'S GOING TO BE BUILDING. I THINK HE DID PROVIDE SOME RENDERINGS OF THE BUILDING, AND IT APPEARED FROM THE FACADE THAT THEY WOULD BE HIGH QUALITY. BUT I GUESS FORM FOLLOWS FUNCTION AND IT BASED ON WHAT HE'S PAYING FOR THE PROPERTY. AS WE KNOW HE PAID CLOSE TO 7.2 MILLION. HE'S INVESTING ADDITIONAL 2030 MILLION. IN THE SENSE FORM FOLLOWS FUNCTION.

HE'S GOT TO BUILD SOMETHING EQUIVALENT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE RENT RATES TO SATISFY THE DEBT SERVICE THAT HE WOULD EVENTUALLY INCUR. SO THAT KIND OF FORCES HIM TO DEVELOP OR BUILD

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THAT'S 8 12. 10 MINUTES BEFORE 10 MINUTES AGAINST SIX MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. FIRST THING I'M GONNA DO IS READ THESE PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS. AND THE FIRST ONE THAT DOES NOT WISH TO SPEAK. IS MISS. UH LAYLA RAMSEY. AND SHE SAYS, UH, SHE'S AN OPPOSITION. THE ONLY THING IT SAYS THERE NEXT CARD. I HAVE MS. GERALD EPPLER. COME ON UP. WHAT'S YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. CHERYL KEPLER 406 MILLION STREET 75137 . AND IF YOU'LL START BY SAYING IF YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST, PLEASE UM, I'M FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I HAVE A CONCERN. MY CONCERN IS REGARD TO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OF WETLAND PLAZA. MY FAMILY AND I LIVE A FEW BLOCKS SOUTH. OF THE PLAZA. WE HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 31 YEARS AND WE DO CARE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. OF THE PLAZA. WE BELIEVE THAT THE BUSINESSES THAT GO IN THERE SHOULD ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. MY HUSBAND AND I WERE DISAPPOINTED WHEN WE HEARD THAT ONE OF THE POSSIBLE BUSINESSES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLAZA WOULD BE A TATTOO PARLOR SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, MY HUSBAND AND HE WISHED HE WAS HERE TONIGHT, BUT HE HAD A PRIOR COMMITMENT. SO I'M SPEAKING ON HIS BEHALF, YOU MIGHT SAY. UM SO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, HE WENT ON A TOUR OF THE PLAZA WITH MONTE ANDERSON. I THINK IT WAS IN THE SUMMERTIME. MY HUSBAND REMEMBERS MONTE SAYING THERE WOULD BE NO TATTOO PARLOR. THE PEOPLE IN THE GROUP RESPONDED POSITIVELY TO THAT. SO WHY WAS THERE A CHANGE? ALTHOUGH MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING TATTOOS NOWADAYS. I GUESS WE'RE FUDDY DADDIES. THERE'S STILL A RISK TO THE SKIN, AND THERE ARE STILL NEGATIVES ASSOCIATED WITH WITH TATTOOS WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO BE HIRED. A TATTOO PARLOR IS NOT THE SORT OF SHOP WE FAVOR HAVING IN THE SHOPPING CENTER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT WE'RE EVEN MORE OPPOSED TO HAVING A BAR. AND WE ON PLAZA. BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT NOISE, LATE NIGHT TRAFFIC, POSSIBLE FIGHTS, INTOXICATION AND BROKEN HOMES. IF ONE OF THE PROPOSED RESTAURANTS HAS A LIQUOR LICENSE. WE FEEL THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT, BUT WE'RE OPPOSED TO AN ESTABLISHMENT. WHERE THE MAIN FOCUS IS SERVING ALCOHOL. UM ANOTHER ISSUE. UM. ACROSS THE STREET IS MIDDLE RATE WHERE BOTH OF OUR CHILDREN ATTENDED. I CAN RECALL A FEW YEARS AGO MENU GROCERY STORE HAD A SIGN ON THEIR DOOR INDICATED TO STURGEON TO STUDENTS COULD ENTER AT A TIME. THEY HAD A REASON FOR THAT. I THINK IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A PLACE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. I'M ALL FOR THAT. THAT WAS MENTIONED AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING. HOWEVER I WANT TO KNOW HAVE PLANS MEN MADE FOR SOME KIND OF SECURITY OR CHAPERONING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT WE HAVE ROYCE MILHAM. WISHES TO SPEAK. RELATION I'LL UM 6 23 SOUTH ALEXANDER AVENUE ARTS. ER CAN YOU TELL US IF YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST I AM FOUR WITH RESERVATIONS. THE ALLEY BEHIND OUR HOUSE USED TO BE LINED WITH MATURE TREES AND NATIVE VEGETATION THAT SUPPORTED LIFE

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LANDSCAPING THAT REQUIRES THE LEAST AMOUNT OF EFFORT AND COST. ASSEMBLY LINE LANDSCAPING HAS BEEN WIDELY ADOPTED USING LOUD MACHINES TO QUICKLY MO BLOW BAG IT ALL AND GO. YES THE DEVALUING OF THE LAND CONTRIBUTES TO ENVIRONMENTAL AND URBAN DECAY. NATURE HAS BEEN VIEWED AS AN IMPEDIMENT THAT GETS IN THE WAY OF MONETIZING THE REAL ESTATE. OUR HELP IS LONG TERM RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IS THAT THE NEW OWNER OF WHEATLAND PLAZA WILL RECOGNIZE THE NECESSITY OF SETTING ASIDE PART OF THE LAND TO FACILITATE A NATURAL BALANCE. WE HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL STAND FAST WITH THEIR ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES 20% OF THE LAND TO BE GREEN. IT IS ALSO OUR HOPE THAT THE NEW OWNER WILL ABIDE BY THE CURRENT ZONING RESTRICTIONS THAT PROTECT NEARBY RESIDENTS FROM THE INTRUSIONS OF HARSH, ABRASIVE LIGHTING THAT DISRUPTS NIGHTTIME ACTIVITIES. SCARING AWAY THE HOURS THAT KEEP THE RATS AT BAY AND SHAKING HIS AWAKE IF WE HAVE TO TAKE OUR DOGS OUTSIDE, LATE AT NIGHT. THE TIME IS NOW EMERGING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH ECOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT TO REJUVENATE OUR URBAN ENVIRONMENT. THIS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BY SURROUNDING OURSELVES WITH A DIVERSE ASSORTMENT OF EDIBLE, NATIVE DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTS AND TREES. IF WE REMOVE PAVEMENT WHERE WE CAN AND EXERCISE GOOD STEWARDSHIP OVER EVERY AVAILABLE SPOT OF SOIL. WE CAN CREATE WATER ABSORBING, LIFE AFFIRMING BUFFER ZONES. THAT PROVIDE COMFORT AND PEACE OF MIND FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE FEELING INCREASINGLY DISCONNECTED FROM THE NATURAL WORLD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MR TOMMIE RAINER. MR RAYNER. GOOD EVENING SENATE COUNCIL. UM I'M TOMMY RENO. 5 TO 3. CATHERINE COURTS. I'M I GUESS THE AGAINST THIS ONE. UM WITH THE CAVEAT OF THAT I AM EXCITED THE IDEA THAT THIS THIS AREA IS GETTING A DEVELOPMENT. I'VE SEEN PROGRESS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND I'M I 40 PLUS YEAR RESIDENT OF THIS AREA. I DO HAVE MY CONCERNS, AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS ARE ECHO FROM THE PREVIOUS MEMBERS ARE HERE JUST SPEAKING MOMENTS AGO TO THAT FACT. UH I PERSONALLY AM NOT REALLY HAPPY THAT THE IDEA THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING SHUTTING DOWN ACTING. UH STOPPING TRAFFIC TO GO FROM A MAIN ARTERY TO THE CITY. I MYSELF WAS A RESIDENT IN THIS AREA ALL MY LIFE, SO I MADE, UH I MADE THE WALK TO READ , UH, AND AS A STUDENT THERE CUTTING OFF ACCESS TO THAT IS JUST GOING TO INCREASE THE WALKING DISTANCE REQUIRED FOR CHILDREN THAT ARE ATTENDING THIS AREA. I THINK CAREFUL CONSIDERATION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN IN THAT SPACE. UM WE HEARD MOMENTS AGO ABOUT POSSIBILITY OF A BAR. WE HEARD POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE HOTEL MOTEL OPTION THERE. WE'VE HEARD , UM, TATTOO. PARLORS I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO TAKE THIS ENDED SERIOUS CONSIDERATION ABOUT WHAT THAT SAYS ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. UM THIS IS NOT JUST A DISTRICT THREE CONSIDERATION. THIS IS A CITY OF DUNCANVILLE CONSIDERATION. I THINK WE HAVEN'T SEEN A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS NATURE COME TO DUNCANVILLE IN QUITE SOME TIME, WHICH IS WHY A LOT OF THE CITIES AROUND US GET TO BENEFIT FROM THIS, SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE SMART ABOUT MAKING THOSE DECISIONS AND TAKE INTO DEEP CONSIDERATION ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT. NOT JUST THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES BEHIND IT, BUT HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT THE TRAFFIC FLOW? HOW IT'S GONNA AFFECT THE CHILDREN GETTING TO THEIR SCHOOLS AND HOW THIS IS GOING TO THE FACT THAT THIS CITY AS A WHOLE, UM SO IN THAT RESPECT, I'D LOVE SEEING PROGRESS. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, TO EXPLAIN THAT TO EVERYBODY THAT I'M HAPPY TO SEE SOMETHING BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF SEEING OTHER CITIES GET THINGS AND UNLIKE TO CONTINUE TO SHOP IN DUNCANVILLE, SO I LINK THINGS TO

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THEY'RE NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES. SO WHAT? WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW REALLY IS WHAT WE SAW BACK WHEN WE APPROVED THE GRANT AND KIND OF STARTED THIS PROCESS. YOU KNOW THAT? THAT BEING SAID, I SO WHEN IT COMES TO FOR EXAMPLE, THE BAR IS THERE. SOME OF THESE PROPOSED USES. THEY'RE JUST PROPOSED USES RIGHT SO POTENTIAL USES RIGHT SO UH, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING AT THERE'S SOMEBODY WITH PLANS FOR A BAR OR A TATTOO PARLOR OUTSIDE THE DOOR, AND

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BUT IF WE'VE GOT ANOTHER LAYER OF APPROVAL THERE WITH AN S U P, THEN, UH, I'D FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. UM AND THEN I'M ALSO AGAINST A TATTOO PARLOR. I DON'T KNOW IF THESE THINGS ARE NECESSARY FOR THIS TO SUCCEED. BUT AGAIN, I'M JUST KIND OF RELAYING WHAT WHAT'S BEING COMMUNICATED TO ME TO, YOU KNOW BY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM. THIS SORT, MR. TENNANT YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE BAR CONSULT BECAUSE THERE WAS A MISSION. THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL. I DO APOLOGIZE FOR MY LACK OF EXPLANATION. EARLIER BARS ARE CONSIDERED AUXILIARY USED TO HOTELS SO YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE A BAR TAVERN X. THIS IS MORE OF A HILLARY USED TO THE HOTEL. WHICH IS WHEN WE'RE USING THE TERM BAR. YOU CAN'T HAVE A BAR PER SE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE FOOD THAT FOOD, ALCOHOL, UM THE COMPONENT IF YOU WILL FOR IT. SO WITH THAT STATED THIS IS MORE OF AN AUXILIARY USED TO THE HOTEL THAT IS ALSO PART OF THE PLAN AS WELL. LOOK THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE CLARIFIED AND IN THE ORDINANCE SCENARIOS, SIR. OKAY? YEAH, BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE RETAIL SERVICE USES, I JUST SEE BAR 75% ALCOHOL SALES. SO THAT'S WHAT THE AUXILIARY TO THE HOTEL? YES, OKAY. WHICH IS LIKE OUR CURRENT AND JESSICA LITTLE BIT FURTHER, IF YOU DON'T MIND, SO THAT'S LIKE P D. I MEAN OUR CURRENT DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. AND THEN SO AND I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE. UH AND I KNOW THAT WE DID GET AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT. THAT LAST TIME AND THAT EXPLANATION MADE SENSE, I GUESS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER? AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPERS CONCERNED ANY OTHER OPTIONS. YOU KNOW THAT THAT WE COULD DO THE GREEN SPACE BECAUSE REDUCING IT TO 5% I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S ALMOST NOTHING UNDERSTANDABLE, SIR. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE PUSH AND PULLS THE SOUTH WAS ARGUING WITH OR DEBATING WITH AS WELL BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THERE'S THE SUBSTITUTION. WHERE IF YOU WHERE YOU PUT EXTRA GREEN SPACE, YOU ALSO REDUCING PARKING, SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE THAT HAPPY MEDIAN AND AGAIN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING FROM THE STANDPOINT AS IT STANDS NOW. WHERE THERE IS CURRENTLY NO GREEN SPACES AT ALL AS IT WAS BUILT BACK WHEN IT WAS PREVIOUSLY BUILT. IT WAS BUILT AS A WHOLE CONCRETE MONSTER. SO WE'RE BASICALLY SOFTENING THAT IN THE APPLICANT HAS TAKEN THE DILIGENCE OF ACTUALLY SOFTENED A LOT MORE CONSIDERABLE THAN I'M CURRENTLY IS NOW. JUST 11 OTHER COMMENT ON THAT, AS YOU SAW FROM THE SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT MR TENNANT MENTIONED THERE WAS 2500. SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING SCREEN GREEN SPACE CURRENTLY ONCE IT'S SAID, AND DONE, INCLUDING THE RIGHT AWAY SPACE WILL BE 49,000 SQUARE FEET OF GREEN SPACE ON THE DEVELOPMENT, SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OF GREEN SPACE AND A PORTION OF THAT I BELIEVE 21,000 SQUARE FEET. IT'S IN YOUR PACKET. IS IN SOME OF OUR RIGHT AWAY THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL BE MAINTAINING FOR US. SO THAT'S THE IF YOU LOOK THERE. ON THE TO YOUR I GUESS IT BE TO YOUR RIGHT. YOU

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BUT YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME, BUT IF AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE COULD CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS AND JUST MAYBE LOOK AT OTHER WAYS THAT WE COULD MAINTAIN OR INCREASE THE GREEN SPACE THERE. AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS THE. EXEMPTION FROM THE SCREENING. REQUIREMENTS FOR DUMPSTERS AND EQUIPMENT ON GROUND EQUIPMENT. IS THAT IS THAT STILL SOMETHING THAT DEVELOPED THE DEVELOPERS REQUESTING? YES I BELIEVE SO. A LOT OF THOSE, UH, DUMPSTERS THAT ARE ARE ASKING FOR THE EXEMPTION. WOULD BE BEHIND BUILDING A THERE'S A FEW SHOWN, UM. BUT I THINK THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION BETTER, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT'S WHERE THE UN ENCLOSED DUMPSTERS, FOR THE MOST PART ARE LOCATED. LET ME LET ME HERE IF I MAY, UM, CURRENTLY THE WAY THAT'S THE WAY THE DUMPSTERS ARE SITUATED. YOU HAVEN'T ALL ACROSS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. HE WANTS TO CENTRALIZE THE DUMPSTERS, SO THERE'S ONE LOCATION WHERE EVERYONE'S GOING TO UTILIZE. AND THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE, UH, THE LITTER IN THE TRASH THAT YOU'RE FINDING WITHIN THE LANDSCAPING BEHIND THE OR THE GREEN AREA THE RIGHT AWAY THAT YOU FIND BEHIND THAT? THE BUILDING THAT WAS CURRENTLY MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO, SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO POLICE IT BETTER AND HAVE LESS LITTERING, HOPEFULLY AND SO BASICALLY ALL THE TENANTS AS YOU KNOW, FROM THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT THERE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A BACK OF BUILDING EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE ENTERING IT FROM THE FRONT, SO IT'S TO MAKE IT CLEANER. AND HAVE MORE PEOPLE FREQUENTING THE BACK AND THE FRONT. SO YOU'D HAVE LESS LITERAL CONCEIVABLY, OF COURSE, THAT THE LANDLORD OR THE DEVELOPMENT SPEAK TO THAT. BUT IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT OF THE BUILDING, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW LATER TO BE IN FRONT OR TRASH BINS WILL BE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, SO THEY HAVE TO GO TO A COMMON PLACE TO DUMP. THEIR TRASH. AND OF COURSE, IT'S UP TO THE LANDLORD AND TENANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TRASH AND THAT THAT WAS DUMPSTERS ARE PICKED UP AND MAINTAINED, ETCETERA. BUT ESSENTIALLY WOULD HAVE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THEIR BUILDING SPACE AND SEEN IF THERE WAS LITTLE OR NOT, SO YOU WOULD HOPEFULLY HAVE MORE POLICING OF IT, OR AT LEAST COMPLAINING IF THERE'S LITTER TAKING PLACE, TYPICALLY OUT OF SIGHT OUT OF MIND. BUT SINCE YOU'LL BE HAVING A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE AS MUCH LITTLE CONCEIVABLE. SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THE LITTER. THE DUMPSTERS IN ONE CENTRALIZED LOCATION VERSUS ALONG THE BACK OF THE ALL ALONG THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. AND WHERE IS THAT CENTRALIZED LOCATION ON HERE? OKAY THAT'S NOT CENTRALIZED. I'M LOOKING. I'M LOOKING OVER HERE SOMEWHERE. IS IT OFF? IS IT BEHIND BUILDING A OFF TO THE IF YOU LOOK AT BUILDING ICER RIGHT THERE, WHERE THAT LITTLE GASHES IN THIS LITTLE PORTION OF THE AGES OF THOSE THAT WORK ELSEWHERE. OH, YES, YES. RIGHT HERE, SIR. SO THAT'S NOT EXACTLY CENTRALIZED IN IT. FOR THE BUILDINGS IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. YES, SIR. OH, RIGHT THERE. HERE. HERE. IN HERE.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR CONTROLLERS. YEAH, YEAH, TO THAT POINT. THOSE DUMPSTERS BEHIND BUILDING A, UM FROM NORTH TO SOUTH OR THEY'RE SCREENED IN THE SENSE THAT THERE IS A SIX FT. UH SPLIT FACE BLOCK WALL THAT WAS PUT IN THERE AS PART OF THE REQUIREMENT WHEN THAT WAS BUILT.

UH SO THEY'RE SCREENED FROM PUBLIC VIEW, EXCEPT FOR SOMEBODY THAT DRIVES THAT ALLEY, WHICH NOT MANY PEOPLE DO. UM SO THAT IN AND OF ITSELF TAKES CARE OF ITSELF. FROM A SCREENING STANDPOINT, I KNOW THAT I HEARD THE DEVELOPER TALKING ABOUT AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TERM BUT MORE NATURAL TYPE SCREENING AROUND THE DUMPSTER LOCATIONS THAT MIGHT BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. YEAH, THERE LIES A QUESTION THAT I HAVE IT'S TWO PART ABOUT THE SCREENING OF

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THEY WERE TAKEN DOWN YEARS AGO. UM THAT WOULD BE AN UNCAPPED ALONG THOSE SOUTH ALEXANDRA HOUSES. AND SO THERE WAS A LOT OF NATURAL SCREENING. IT WASN'T PRETTY. BUT IT DID SEPARATE THEM FROM THE BACK OF THE BUILDING. PLUS, WE HAD A FABRIC SCREENING REQUIREMENT ON A CHAIN LINK FENCE, WHICH IN IT OF ITSELF IS NOT VERY PRETTY, AND IT'S HARD TO MAINTAIN SO THE SCREENING IDEA WITH NATURAL VEGETATION IS INTERESTING TO ME. I THINK IT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED. BUT I MAY MAKE THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER LATER ON. UM, I SEE. EXHIBIT B. EXHIBIT FIVE.

I'M SORRY. UH, GROUND COVER. TYPES OF ELEMENTS FOR THAT AREA BACK THERE, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING GROWING. TWO AND I DON'T SAY TREES OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD GROW TO HELP FACILITATE SOME OF THE COMEBACK OF THE BIRDS PLACE FOR BIRDS, SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING TREES, BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD EARLY ON IN THE FIRST PRESENTATION THAT THERE WERE SOME OTHER TYPES OF NATIVE PLANTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GROWN BACK THERE TO DECORATED UP A LITTLE BIT MORE AND GIVE A LITTLE MORE. UM ABOVE GROUND SCREENING. SO THAT. LOOKING OUT OF THE BACKYARD THAT USED TO HAVE THE TREES. AT LEAST THEY GET SOMETHING BACK. NOW THAT IS HALFWAY ATTRACTIVE TO LOOK AT AND WHICH SCREEN THOSE DUMPSTERS FURTHER UP THE HILL. BECAUSE THE DUMPSTERS ARE AT THE TOP. SO BUT THAT'S JUST MY POINT. AND MAYBE MAYBE THE DEVELOPER CAN TALK TO THAT. WHAT THE PLANS MIGHT BE OVER IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU ANYONE ELSE? BLESS YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM. GENTLEMEN WE HAD A CITIZEN THAT ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT BUFFERING. COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT POLICE? SURE.

THINK FOR ONE MOMENT. ADDRESS MY NOTES.

SO THIS WAS FROM THE SECTION BUFFERING BETWEEN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IN WHICH OUR CODE REQUIRES A LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN A RIGHT OF WAY AND THE SITE. SO THE APPLICANT WAS HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE IS CURRENTLY NO LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG WHEATLAND ROAD AND THAT THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO CREATE A VARIABLE WITH BUT FOR ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE AND INTO THE UNUTILIZED STREET RIGHT AWAY. UH IN ADDITION, IT IS PROPOSED TO ADD ON STREET PARKING IN THE UNDERUTILIZED TRAVELING CLOSEST TO THE CURB. THE INTRODUCTION OF PARKING WOULD PROVIDE A TRANSITION FROM HEAVY VEHICULAR TRAFFIC TO THE SLOWER PACE, MORE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED COMMUNITY PLAZA. ALONG THE FRONT OF THE SITE. UM. SO THE BUFFERING THAT'S MENTIONED AGAIN IS TO CREATE A MORE PLEASANT PEDESTRIAN LOOK AND FEEL. AND, UM. I HOPE THAT ADDRESSES YOUR QUESTION.

OKAY I THINK HER QUESTION RELATED TOWARDS WHEATLAND ROAD IS AS WELL AND POTENTIALLY BEING A HOW ARE YOU? REDUCED DOWN. AS PART OF THIS PROPOSAL THAT WOULD THAT'S NOT PART OF THE P D PROPOSAL TO REDUCE ANY RIGHT OF WAY. UM, THIS IS A ZONING MECHANISM. SO THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS REQUEST. SO AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER, SO THE APPLICANT HAS DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL. FOR REDUCTION OF THE HIGHWAY OR THE STREET WHEATLAND ROAD AND UTILIZING ONE OF THOSE LANES AS A POTENTIAL BUFFER OR POTENTIAL. PARKING AREA, HOWEVER, THAT HAS NOT BEEN PRESENTED BEFORE THIS COUNCIL THAT WOULD COME IN THE LATER DATE. THERE HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STUDY DONE ON PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ON RIGHT AWAY ON TRAFFIC COUNTS. ON TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AND HOW IT WOULD ACTIVATE THE CENTER. SO THERE IS A PRESENTATION AND THERE HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STUDY DONE ON THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT UTILIZATION AS A TEMPORARY PARKING SPACE, NOT A PERMANENT. WE HAVE IN THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THAT, AND THAT

[02:25:05]

IT'S THAT LINE LINE OUT THERE IS A WATER LINE. YES SIR. OKAY, SO NOW YOU'RE NOW YOU'VE GOT THE, UH, THE CORRECT ACTUAL CURVE, A ACTUAL CURVE. YEAH OKAY, SO IT ANSWERED THE QUESTION THAT YOU WERE ASKED THE THIS IS NOT. THIS IS NOT THE PICTURE OF THE LANDSCAPING. WITH THE REQUEST OF REDUCTION. INCLUDED IN THIS NO, OKAY. SO WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A PICTURE OF WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE WITH THE EXCLUSION OF THE WELL WITH. WE HAVE A PICTURE THAT'S SHOWING US WHAT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S REQUIRED UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, AND THAT WHICH IS BEING REQUESTED. THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN REQUESTED. THIS IS WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED A REDUCTION. OKAY? THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU. UM I'LL TELL YOU GIVEN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. LITTLE LANDSCAPE ME DOES HAVE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.

I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, AND I UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITY AND TRYING TO FIT IN ALL OF THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING ON A PROPERTY THAT HAS PARKING ISSUES AS TO LEAVE ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO BE BUILT AS THE PROJECT GOES ON, SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

UM I JUST I JUST WONDER I KNOW IN OLDER ORDINANCE MAY STILL BE ON THE BOOKS WHEN A DEVELOPER COULDN'T FIT ALL THE TREES ON THEIR PROPERTY. THOSE TREES THAT COULDN'T FIT ON THE PROPERTY.

THERE WAS A STIPULATION. THAT YOU WOULD DONATE THAT TO A PARK OR A SCHOOL OR SOMETHING IN THE CITY. UM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL IN PLACE, BUT I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW. IF THAT'S STILL IN PLACE. UH, SO THAT WE CAN TREES WE CALCULATED TO GO IN HERE. THAT WE CAN PUT THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND PUT THEM TO USE. I THINK WE'VE GOT ADEQUATE. GREEN GREENERY IN HERE RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THIS IS WHAT THE REDUCTION BUT I'M JUST IT'S JUST AN IDEA THAT IF WE STILL HAVE IT ON THE BOOKS WHERE WE CAN SUBSTITUTE TREES WE WANT TO ELIMINATE BUT DONATING THEM TO

[02:30:05]

NO. GOT ONE MORE. HOLD THAT ONE. GO AHEAD. ON THAT POINT. I WAS GOING TO ANSWER THAT VERY SAME QUESTION. I HAD TO STEP OUT. SORRY BUT THE GENTLEMAN HAD MENTIONED THE CLOSING OFF OF ACTING. AS AN ACCESS THROUGH THE PROPERTY. UM HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED? TO THE EXTENT THAT I DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT WE WERE CLOSING OFF ACTIVE? YES SO ACTING CAN STILL GO THROUGH. BUT AS YOU KNOW, WITH ANY SHOPPING CENTER ANY DEVELOPMENT YOU WANT TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN AND YOU WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE. ACTIVATING THE SITE. YOU WANTED TO ACTUALLY DRIVE THROUGH IT AND LOOK AT IT AND SLOW IT DOWN. SO IT'S ACTUALLY AS YOU PROBABLY AWARE. THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE RACING THROUGH THAT PROPERTY AND SO PEOPLE THAT ARE ALWAYS WALKING AND HANGING OUT AND ENJOYING THE AFTERNOON. YOU DON'T WANT A THOROUGHFARE THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE STRAIGHT THROUGH AND POSSIBLY CREATE ACCENT. SO YOU WANT TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT STILL HAVE ACCESS TO WHEATLAND ROADS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY. THAT'S CORRECT. ULTIMATELY DO WE UNDERWROTE? OKAY THANK YOU JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT THAT THAT WAS ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSION WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SOME TRAFFIC CONTROL. AH AREAS IN

[02:35:02]

YES THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT THAT PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S CHANGING DUNCANVILLE. AND IT'S A GOOD PROJECT AND THEN IT'S DO THIS.

UM I WOULD SAY THAT THIS DEVELOPERS ALSO KNOWS THE INTEREST BECAUSE HE'S HE SAT BEHIND HER AS WELL. AND HE UNDERSTANDS WITH WHAT THE CITIZENS KIND OF WANT, AND I THINK HE'S GOT THAT PEOPLE'S HEART AS WELL. AND SO I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. THE MAYOR PRO TEM, I'M GONNA I SECOND THAT MOTION, BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE DEVELOPER FOR HEARINGS. SOME OF OUR DIFFICULT QUESTIONS AND RESPONDING TO SOME OF THOSE IN A FAVORABLE WAY THAT I THINK WILL, UM NOT HURT THE PROJECT'S CONTINUATION, BUT IT WILL DEFINITELY TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT. SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK HIM FOR MAKING SOME UM, ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE HAVE. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MCBURNETT AND SECOND FROM MR CONTRERAS. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 60. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. SO CENTER SECRETARY. I DON'T SIX ON OUR

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