Oct 10, 2025 Arts Commission

ALEX. I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER WHEN YOU'RE READY.

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[1. Call to Order]

[3.A. The Arts Commission to review and consider making recommendations to the City Council regarding Arts Grant applications submitted during the September 2025 grants application cycle.]

SO THE NEXT ARTS COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT PEOPLE SITTING AROUND THIS TABLE.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT DURING THIS ONE LAST DISCUSSION THAT EVERYBODY'S VOICE IS ON THE RECORD FOR EVERYTHING, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO GET BOGGED DOWN TOO HEAVILY IN DISCUSSION.

LIKE WE DID LAST TIME. SO THIS IS MY RECOMMENDATION.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE, SINCE WE HAVE A RUBRIC SCORING RIGHT NOW, IS THEY HAVE SOME NEW TOOLS.

I'M GOING TO START I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH APPLICATION.

I HAVE A, SOME A ONE PAGE SUMMARY AND I HOPE THIS WILL SET THE STANDARD.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY WHAT THE APPLICANT WAS THE GRANT TYPE ELIGIBILITY, THE REQUEST AND MY RECOMMENDATION, MY SCORE ON THE RUBRIC AND ANY NOTES. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I WOULD LIKE TO GO AROUND THE TABLE AND I HAVE A LITTLE NOTE HERE BECAUSE I LOSE PEOPLE WHEN YOU'RE ON THE THING AND EVERYONE BASICALLY DO WHAT I DID.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SCORING ON THE RUBRIC. IF YOU COULD PLEASE SAY PASS FOR DISCUSSION.

AND THEN ONCE EVERYBODY HAS SPOKEN ON THE RECORD, ONCE EVERYBODY HAS SAID THEIR RUBRIC SCORE, THEN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION. AND SO I THINK THAT WILL PROBABLY ANSWER OUR OWN QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

AND THEN IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, THEN SOMEONE CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR ACTION.

DOES THAT SOUND ACCEPTABLE TO EVERYBODY? SO AGAIN, ARE YOU GOING THROUGH ALL OF THEM? ARE YOU TAKING THEM ONE AT A TIME WITH US? I'M GOING TO GO ONE AT A TIME.

ONE AT A TIME. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS OKAY. OKAY. SO I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS RAISED THAT THERE'S ANY THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD LIKE THIS. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START.

AND THEN I HAVE WRITTEN EVERYBODY'S NAME DOWN BASED ON WHEN I SAW THEM WHEN THEY CAME IN.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO KEEP GOING DOWN THAT LINE BECAUSE I LOSE PEOPLE IF I JUST LOOK AT YOU RIGHT HERE.

SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH REALLY QUICKLY THE FIRST APPLICANT.

NUMBER ONE APPLICANT IS J.R. STUDIOS CANVAS AND CREATIVITY.

THEY'VE APPLIED FOR A SINGLE SINGLE PROJECT SUPPORT GRANT.

THEIR ELIGIBILITY IS IN DUNCANVILLE. THE REQUEST WAS FOR $3,000.

MY RECOMMENDATION WAS IS TO APPROVE THE FULL FUNDING OF $3,000.

MY RUBRIC SCORE WAS 96 OUT OF 100, AND MY NOTES ARE STRONG.

YOUTH ARTS PROGRAM WITH VERIFIED PARTNERSHIPS AND CLEAR OUTCOMES.

I'M SORRY, WHICH ONE DID YOU START WITH? YEAH I'M CONFUSED.

SO BECAUSE I PUT THEM IN ORDER AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN.

YEAH, THE ORDER THAT IT'S IN EVERYBODY'S BOOK, IF THEY HAVE IT PRINTED OUT IS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR AND AND SO ON. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO GO TO.

SO NUMBER ONE IS THE GHETTO CHILD'S CHRISTMAS.

YES YES. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO GO NUMBER ONE.

AND IF WHEN YOU GET THROUGH KEEP THAT THERE ALEX.

SO NUMBER ONE IS THE EVIDENCE. THEATER PRODUCTIONS.

IT'S A GHETTO CHILD'S CHRISTMAS TALE. IT WAS A SINGLE PROJECT SUPPORT.

THEY HAVE A FORT WORTH ADDRESS, SO THEY'RE INELIGIBLE FOR THE GRANT.

SO I DON'T RECOMMEND FUNDING BECAUSE IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE GRANT.

IF EVERYBODY COULD GO AROUND THE TABLE. I'M GOING TO START WITH TIM.

TIM, IF YOU COULD DO WHAT I DID AND WE EACH DO IT, AND THEN AT THE END, IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A MOTION. IS THAT SUFFICIENT? MAY I ADD A COUPLE THINGS JUST BEFORE YOU GO INTO DISCUSSION? OKAY. SO I DID REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT. AND BECAUSE I DID NOT HAVE A COMPLETED APPLICATION AND I DID NOT HAVE PROOF OF DUNCANVILLE RESIDENCY, SO I REQUESTED UNDER THE UNDER THE AWARENESS THAT YOU WOULD BE MEETING TODAY, PROOF OF DUNCANVILLE RESIDENCY OR BUSINESS OR OPERATION AND THE COMPLETED VENDOR PACKET SHE DID PROVIDE THE COMPLETED VENDOR PACKET AND RESPONDED.

I WAS WAITING TO SEE. OH, AND THEN I SAID, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE ARTS COMMISSION ANY DOCUMENTATION YOU HAVE CONFIRMING USE OF THE DUNCANVILLE HIGH

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AS FAR AS LIVING IN DUNCANVILLE, I DON'T. A MEMBER OF MY CHRISTMAS PLAY LIVES ON THE BORDER AND AND ATTENDS DUNCANVILLE ISD.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO HAVE ALL OF THAT. OKAY.

AS YOUR. THANK YOU. ALEX. SURE. THANK YOU. ALEX.

HEY, TIM, CAN I. CAN YOU DO WHAT I JUST DID? YEAH, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T WRITE THIS ONE.

BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS ELIGIBLE. BECAUSE UNDER PROHIBITED USES, IT SAYS POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS PROGRAMING.

AND BASED ON HER APPLICATION, IT'S, IT SEEMS TO REALLY FOCUS ON CHRISTIANITY AND JESUS AND.

OKAY. CHRISTMAS. THANKS. AND I ALSO DID NOT VOTE FOR IT.

AND MY SCORING IS OUT OF 500 BECAUSE I MULTIPLIED THE SCORE TIMES THE WEIGHT.

SO MY SCORE WAS 265, WHICH IS ABOUT HALF. SO I GUESS IT'D BE ABOUT 50%.

OKAY, SO ANN, WHAT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION NOT TO FUND? OKAY. THANK YOU. SARAH FOR THE EVIDENCE. EVIDENCE? THEATER PRODUCTIONS. YEAH. I RECOMMENDED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

OKAY. MARIANNE. SAME BECAUSE OF POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS PROGRAMING.

PLUS, THE PERSON IN DUNCANVILLE IS A SEVENTH GRADER.

THANK YOU. AMY. I AGREE IT'S INELIGIBLE, AND THEY HAVEN'T SECURED THE AUDITORIUM.

AND IF THEY HAVEN'T SECURED THE AUDITORIUM FOR DECEMBER 14TH EVENT, I CAN PROMISE YOU THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT, SO IT'S INELIGIBLE. THANKS, AMY. THANKS, AMY.

ANGELA. HI, ANGELA. ARE YOU MUTED? I VOTED THAT THAT IT WAS INELIGIBLE. AND YEAH I PICKED UP ON THAT.

THE THE ARTIST WAS ONLY IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. OKAY.

SO IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION. WE DO NOT APPROVE THIS GRANT.

I SECOND THAT MOTION. SO, AMY JACKSON, MOTION NOT TO APPROVE.

SARAH MASSIAH SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW WE RECOGNIZE A HAND UP. WHAT IF I JUST. I COULD JUST GO DOWN THE LIST AND PEOPLE COULD SAY I OR NAY.

YES. OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THE LIST THE SAME WAY.

SO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO NOT RECOMMEND FUNDING DUE TO INELIGIBILITY.

AND THERE WAS A SECOND BY SARAH. TIM. ANN. HI.

SARAH. HI, MARIANNE. HI, AMY. HI, ANGELA. HI.

MY VOTE IS I. IT'S UNANIMOUS. SO I'M GOING TO GO ON TO NUMBER TWO.

ALEX, WHO IS NUMBER TWO? FRANCIS VILLAGRAN.

OKAY.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS. I DID REACH OUT TO THEM YESTERDAY.

BECAUSE THEY DID NOT I WASN'T PUSHING ON THE PROOF OF DUNCANVILLE RESIDENCY, BUT I DID SEND THEM AN EMAIL NOTIFYING THEM THAT BECAUSE THEY HAD APPLIED FOR A ANNUAL ARTS PROGRAM GRANT, THAT WE WOULD NEED SOME KIND OF DETERMINATION LETTER, AS THAT IS FOR NONPROFITS ONLY. I DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE, THOUGH.

OKAY. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THIS PROJECT? THE ART MURAL.

MY QUESTION IS SHOULD IT I IT IT SHOULD BE A SINGLE PROJECT, NOT AN ANNUAL.

IT'S A MURAL. I DON'T I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS RIGHT FOR THAT CATEGORY.

SO AMY LET'S DO WHAT? LET'S DO THIS WHEN WE GO THROUGH, WHEN YOU HAVE WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO TALK ABOUT YOUR NOTES,

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SO. I AM GOING I DO HAVE FRANCIS GRAHAM. DO YOU HAVE FRANCIS GRAHAM? KELLY MURAL? NOW AND I KNOW I DID IT. THIS IS FOR SHAYLA BISTRO.

OKAY, I GOT IT. OKAY. SO THIS ALSO THE THE SHAYLA BISTRO, THE MURAL PROJECT.

LIKE AMY SAID, IT'S THEY HAVE IT IDENTIFIED AS AN ANNUAL ARTS PROGRAM.

TECHNICALLY, I WOULD QUALIFY IT AS A PUBLIC ART.

THEY THEY MEET THE ELIGIBILITY. THE REQUEST WAS FOR 3000.

MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE 3000. MY MY SCORE WAS 98 OUT OF 100.

MY RATIONALE IS THE THE HIGH VISIBILITY MURAL ACTIVATING DOWNTOWN.

ELIGIBLE AFTER RECLASSIFICATION. TIM, WOULD YOU SPEAK ON THIS? YEAH, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. IT SEEMED TO MEET THE CRITERIA.

THERE WAS A LITTLE CONFUSION, I THINK, ON THE PROJECT TITLE OR WHAT KIND IT IS.

I GAVE IT A 415 OUT OF THE TOTAL OF, I DON'T KNOW, 600 OR WHATEVER IT IS.

AND I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. I THOUGHT IT WAS EXCELLENT.

MY SCORE WAS 490 OUT OF 500. SARAH, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE ART MURAL WITH RECLASSIFICATION. I DON'T HAVE A SCORE FOR IT, THOUGH.

OKAY, MARIANNE, MY SCORE WAS 400. I WONDERED TO ME, I WONDERED IF IT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, THOUGH I THEY DON'T OWN THAT BUILDING AND THEY HAVE ASKED THE OWNER WHO HAS APPROVED.

BUT WITH THE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IT DOWN FROM 10,000 TO 3, THEN YES, I WOULD HAVE.

I WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL. OKAY. ANGELA WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, I REALIZED THAT THEY PROBABLY REQUESTED THE WRONG THING.

I LOOKED AT SINGLE PROJECT OR PUBLIC, BUT I, I AGREE FOR THE 3000 TO PROVE IT.

SO WE REQUESTED AMOUNT IS 3000. AND SO RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING ON IT IS SO THEY HAVE IT THEY THEY APPLY FOR AN ANNUAL ARTS PROGRAM. IT'S REALLY A. OR IS IT PUBLIC ART OR IS IT OR IS IT.

ALEX CAN YOU READ? DO YOU IF YOU CAN PULL UP THE THE POLICY, CAN YOU READ PUBLIC ART AND READ THE SINGLE PROJECT? SO SINGLE PROJECT SUPPORTS GRANTS TO SUPPORT A SINGLE PROJECT, A SUPPORT, A SINGLE PUBLIC FACING ARTS PROJECT OR EVENT.

ELIGIBILITY IS INDIVIDUALS, NONPROFITS, BUSINESSES, CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION.

FUNDING LIMIT UP TO $3,000 FOR FIRST TIME. APPLICANTS MUST OCCUR IN DUNCANVILLE AND SERVE A PUBLIC PURPOSE NON-REIMBURSABLE, AND HAS TO INCLUDE THE LOGO PUBLIC ARTS GRANT TO SUPPORT THE CREATION AND INSTALLATION OF PERMANENT, PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE VISUAL ART. INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS, TEAMS, NONPROFITS, OR THE ARTS COMMISSION ARE ELIGIBLE.

LANDSCAPING. PERFORMING ARTS. LITERARY ARTS ARE INELIGIBLE UNLESS VISUALLY EXPRESSED, MUST OCCUR IN DUNCANVILLE AND SERVE A PUBLIC PURPOSE. CITY AND OR COMMISSION LOGO MUST APPEAR IN ALL MARKETING.

OKAY, SO IS THIS PUBLIC ART OR SINGLE PROJECT EVENT? I HAVE I HAVE PUBLIC ART. I GUESS I DIDN'T PUT PUBLIC ART.

I GUESS I DIDN'T PUT PUBLIC ART BECAUSE I WAS THINKING HE WASN'T HE WASN'T THE ARTIST.

HE HAS A TEAM, I GUESS, BUT HE'S NOT A NONPROFIT AND IT WASN'T ART COMMISSION.

SO THAT'S WHY I PUT SINGLE PROJECT OR PUBLIC ART.

YEAH. ALEX, WOULD YOU READ WITH THE WITH THE PUBLIC ART? DEFINITION EXCLUDE SHAYLA. INELIGIBLE USES ARE LANDSCAPING, PERFORMING LITERARY ARTS, UNLESS VISUALLY EXPRESSED, CAN A CAN A BUSINESS APPLY FOR A PUBLIC ART GRANT? ELIGIBILITY IS INDIVIDUAL ARTIST TEAMS, NONPROFITS OR THE ARTS COMMISSION.

SO I JUST WANT TO INTERJECT SOMETHING TO THINK AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS.

I WANT TO TAKE SOME REVISIONS BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE POLICY AND SOME OF THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE MADE.

I'M GOING TO REVIEW THOSE AND TAKE THOSE BACK.

AND THIS MAY BE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO POSSIBLY LOOK AT AGAIN.

OKAY. SO THE, THE THE ISSUE ON THE, ON THE, ON THE TABLE IS THEY'VE APPLIED FOR AN ANNUAL ARTS PROGRAM,

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IS IT RELEVANT OR SHOULD THIS BE PART OF A CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAVE WITH CITY COUNCIL? WITH HOW? WHAT KIND OF GRANT IS DEFINED AS PUBLIC ART OR A SINGLE SINGLE PROJECT? ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? YOU DID VERY GOOD. OKAY.

YOU DID DURING YOUR LAST MEETING, ANGELA JUST SAID.

I'M SORRY. ALEX. WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT WAS PART. SO. WHAT I SAID WAS YOU DID DURING YOUR LAST REVIEW SESSION.

YOU DID RECLASSIFY WHAT PEOPLE WERE APPLYING FOR, SO I'M JUST REMINDING YOU OF THAT.

ALEX, CAN YOU READ SOMETHING ON THE RECORD ABOUT THAT RECLASSIFICATION? BECAUSE I NEED TO BE REMINDED. I KNOW THAT IN THAT LAST MEETING MURALS ARE UNDER THE PURVIEW OF ARTS COMMISSION. BUT I NEED A REMINDER ON THE RECLASSIFICATION.

YOU ALL RECLASSIFIED? RIGHT. CAN YOU HELP CONNECT THAT DOT WITH THE PUBLIC ART COMPONENT HERE? I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE WERE INSTANCES WHERE YOU HAD REVIEWED APPLICATIONS IN THE FIRST SESSION, AND YOU DETERMINED THAT THEY MOST LIKELY HAD SELECTED THE INCORRECT CATEGORY, AND YOU MADE DECISIONS ON THE ON AS YOU WENT THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS IN A COUPLE INSTANCES. I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME. BUT WHERE YOU HAD CHANGED THE CATEGORY BECAUSE YOU HAD INTERPRETED THE APPLICATION AS HAVING BEEN SUBMITTED INCORRECTLY, SO YOU APPROVED IT UNDER A DIFFERENT CATEGORY.

OKAY. OKAY. SO I GUESS THE SAID. DO I SEE ANY? NO HANDS, I SEE A CHAT. MARY ANN SAYS IN THE OH, NEVER MIND.

THAT'S MARY ANN'S NOTE TAKING, WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TURN OFF.

I'M SORRY. OKAY, SO HERE'S I GUESS THIS CAN BE RESOLVED IN THE MOTION.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALL RECOMMENDING $3,000, AND WE ALL LIKE THE THE PROJECT.

WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE ARTS IN THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE.

WHAT'S THAT QUESTION IS THAT THEY THEY APPLIED FOR THE WRONG KIND OF GRANT.

SO DO WE WANT TO CORRECT THAT OR DO WE WANT TO LEAVE THAT UP TO CITY COUNCIL OR WHAT'S THE RELEVANCE? I MOVE THAT WE CORRECT IT. OKAY. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO CORRECT IT, ANN? SIMPLY BY CHANGING THE CATEGORY. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHANGE IT TO? IS IT PUBLIC ART? THE CATEGORY IT SHOULD BE IN.

WELL, I THOUGHT IT WAS PUBLIC ART, BUT OTHER COMMISSIONERS THINK IT. IT'S A SINGLE EVENT PROJECT OR SINGLE PROJECT.

EITHER WAY. OKAY. EITHER WAY, I DON'T KNOW. SO ARE YOU.

SO WOULD YOU. AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A. SO I GUESS THIS COULD.

SO LET ME DO THIS. I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE AND LET ME KNOW.

WE CAN JUST GET A CONSENSUS. I'M GOING TO START WITH TIM.

DO YOU THINK IT'S PUBLIC ART OR DO YOU THINK IT IS GOING IT IS A SINGLE PROJECT.

AND THEN WHATEVER THE, THE, THE CONSENSUS IS, THEN WE CAN PUT THAT IN MOTION IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYBODY.

SO, TIM, WHAT DO YOU THINK PUBLIC ART OR SINGLE PROJECT.

IT SEEMS LIKE A SINGLE PROJECT. OKAY. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK? OKAY, I AGREE, IT'S A SINGLE PROJECT AND I VOTE YES.

OKAY, SARAH, WHAT DO YOU THINK? SINGLE PROJECT OR PUBLIC ART? SINGLE PROJECT. OKAY. MARIANNE. SINGLE PROJECT OR PUBLIC ART? SINGLE PROJECT. OKAY. AMY. SINGLE PROJECT. PUBLIC ART SINGLE PROJECT.

OKAY. ANGELA. SINGLE PROJECT OR PUBLIC ART? SINGLE PROJECT.

OKAY, I THINK IT'S PUBLIC ART, BUT I'M THE MINORITY.

SO THE THE THE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WOULD INCLUDE THIS CHANGE IN IT AS WELL.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE CHANGE THE CATEGORY TO SINGLE PROJECT AND ADD IT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR 3000. I SECOND. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

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I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE. TIM. YAY OR NAY? YES AND YES. SARAH. YES. MARIANNE. YES, AMY.

YES, ANGELA. YES. OKAY. AND I'M A YES, TOO. OKAY.

IF SOMEONE CAN HELP ME. ALEX, IF YOU COULD PUT NUMBER THREE UP.

ARE YOU READY? THIS IS CANVASING CREATIVITY. OKAY, SO I HAVE J.R. STUDIOS CANVAS AND CREATIVITY. THEY APPLIED FOR A SINGLE PROJECT SUPPORT GRANT.

THEY ARE A RESIDENT. ELIGIBILITY IN DUNCANVILLE.

THE REQUEST WAS FOR $3,000. MY RECOMMENDATION WAS TO APPROVE FULL FUNDING FOR THE $3,000.

I GAVE HIM THE SCORE OF 96 OUT OF 100. MY NOTES ARE THERE.

STRONG YOUTH ARTS PROGRAM WITH VERIFIED PARTNERSHIPS AND CLEAR OUTCOMES.

TIM, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROJECT? I THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE PROJECT, BUT I GAVE IT A LOW SCORE OF 300 OUT OF 500.

WELL, MEDIUM SCORE. BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S ELIGIBLE FOR HOT FUNDS.

I DON'T KNOW EITHER. OKAY. AND, WELL, I WAS GENERALLY IN FAVOR FOR IT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A BARGAIN WITH THE $30 ADMISSION FEE, AND IT.

IT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY GOOD THING TO BENEFIT YOUTH.

AND MY SCORE WAS FOR SOMETHING OUT OF 500 FOR 65.

OKAY. SARAH, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT? I ALSO QUESTION IF HOT FUNDS WOULD TAKE PART IN THIS, BUT I, I DO I DO THINK WE SHOULD RECOMMEND IT TO MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY. MARIANNE, WHAT DO YOU THINK? CAN I PUT IN ONE THING REAL QUICK? THIS IS NOT A DUNCANVILLE RESIDENT. THIS IS A DALLAS RESIDENT.

THEY'RE JUST. THE LOCATION THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE IS AT VILLAGE TECH.

SO AND THEN YOU MAY WANT TO JUST CHECK THE PUBLIC ACCESS PART BECAUSE THIS IS AN AFTER SCHOOL ART PROGRAM. SO IT, IT'S GOT A PRETTY NARROW AUDIENCE.

OKAY. THAT'S VALID. SO ALEX I KNOW THAT. SO THIS IS LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS.

SO ELIGIBILITY IS YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN DUNCANVILLE.

YOU HAVE A PLACE OF BUSINESS IN DUNCANVILLE THAT HAS TO BE VERIFIED. FOR THIS APPLICANT OR FUTURE APPLICANTS FOR THE FOR FUTURE COMMISSIONS TO CONDITIONS TO CONSIDER.

WHAT IF THEY DON'T MEET THAT CRITERIA? BUT THEIR PROJECT WILL ONLY HAPPEN IN DUNCANVILLE? THAT SEEMS LIKE. DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD STILL BE INELIGIBLE? DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT? SO WHEN I READ THE APPLICANT, IT SAID HE WAS A LONG HE WAS AN ALUMNUS OF DUNCANVILLE HIGH SCHOOL AND A LONG TIME RESIDENT. SO I HAD I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT HE WAS A DUNCANVILLE RESIDENT, THAT THE STUDIO WAS IN DALLAS, BUT HE WAS A DUNCANVILLE RESIDENT.

THAT'S INCORRECT. ALEX, LET ME LOOK. ONE MORE THING.

I, I GOOGLED J.R., I REQUESTED A I REQUESTED A PROOF OF RESIDENCE, AND I DID NOT RECEIVE IT.

HE HAS WRITTEN DOWN THAT OFFICIAL COMPANY NAME IS HIS NAME.

HE HAS GIVEN THE DALLAS INFORMATION ON BOTH OF HIS ON HIS VENDOR PACKET, NOT USING THE THE OFFICIAL COMPANY NAME IS HIS NAME. BUT IN HIS WRITEUP, HE SAYS HE'S A LONG TIME DUNCANVILLE RESIDENT.

HE SAYS THAT IN THE WRITE UP. YEAH, UNLESS HE'S NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.

I DON'T KNOW, HE HE DID NOT PROVIDE THE PROOF OF RESIDENCY.

SO FOR ME, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE CLINCHER. IF THERE'S NO PROOF OF RESIDENCY, IF THERE'S NO PROOF THAT THEY HAVE AN OFFICE IN DUNCANVILLE.

IT WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE. YEAH. THE HE HE WROTE, QUOTING AS A DUNCANVILLE HIGH SCHOOL ALUMNI AND LONG TIME RESIDENT.

I'M COMMITTED. SO HE HE MAY NOT BE A RESIDENT NOW.

HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LONG TIME RESIDENT IN THE PAST.

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THE SECOND BULLET SAYS LIFELONG DUNCANVILLE RESIDENT.

YEAH, WELL, HE SAYS RESIDENT, BUT HE MAYBE WE APPROVE IT ON CONTINGENT TO HIM BEING A RESIDENT.

AND IF HE'S NOT A RESIDENT, THEN HE'S INELIGIBLE.

AND THAT'S JUST A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR A OR A OR A BUSINESS APPLICATION.

AND YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THAT WE WE ASK HIM TO REAPPLY.

THERE'S I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO APPROVE IT.

I MEAN, THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FROM VILLAGE TECH SCHOOLS SAYING THAT HE HAS PERMISSION TO USE IT.

JUST LIKE WE DIDN'T THINK THE DUNCANVILLE AUDITORIUM WAS BOOKED FOR THE OTHER ONE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT PROOF. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT I WANTED TO KNOW IF VILLAGE TECH WAS ALLOWING THE HOSTING, IF WE HAD EVIDENCE OF THAT AND THAT THEY HAD INSURANCE, THAT THEY WERE COVERED SO THAT THE ARTS COMMISSION DOESN'T GET SUED IF SOMEBODY IF SOMETHING HAPPENS. I JUST HAD SOME I HAD SOME REAL CONCERNS.

AND THEN THERE'S A DALLAS ADDRESS. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT A WORTHY PROJECT, BUT MY MY THOUGHT IS THAT HE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND PERHAPS RESUBMIT WITH WITH BETTER INFORMATION. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.

I JUST I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH GOOD INFORMATION TO MAKE A SOLID DEFINITIVE.

AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I, I WOULD NOT VOTE FOR IT TONIGHT.

HEY, ALEX, I THINK AMY BRINGS UP A REALLY GOOD POINT IN REAL QUICK.

IF I COULD JUMP IN REAL QUICK, I APOLOGIZE. I JUST WENT BACK AND JUST DOUBLE CHECKED MYSELF.

OKAY. HE DID SUBMIT A LETTER. THIS IS FROM VILLAGE TECH.

DEAR CITY OF DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION JR STUDIOS HAS PERMISSION TO USE VILLAGE TECH LOCATION AS A HOST LOCATION FOR THEIR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT WITH ANY QUESTIONS.

SINCERELY, ELIZABETH BADANI FOUNDER, CHIEF DESIGN AND INNOVATION OFFICER.

SO YES, THAT PART, THAT PART IS THEY'RE SORRY THEY SENT IT.

OKAY. LATE YESTERDAY. SO THE ISSUE. SO. SO WE STILL DON'T KNOW IF HE'S IN DUNCANVILLE. SO. ANGELA. SO THAT BRINGS UP. DOES IT DOES IT MATTER? THIS IS AN I'M NOT LEADING. THIS IS AN OPEN QUESTION. DOES IT MATTER THAT THEY DON'T HAVE PROOF OF RESIDENCE IF THE PROJECT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN DUNCANVILLE AND ONLY IN DUNCANVILLE? NO, I THINK HE NEEDS TO MEET THE CRITERIA LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

BUT HE INDICATES THAT YOU LIVE OR OPERATE A BUSINESS OR STUDIO WITHIN DUNCANVILLE CITY LIMITS.

HE SAYS YES. EVERYTHING IN HIS WRITE UP TELLS ME HE'S A DUNCANVILLE RESIDENT.

EXCEPT HIS ADDRESS. EXCEPT HIS ADDRESS, WHICH IS HIS STUDIO.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER FLAGS FOR ME. I GUESS LATER ON, WHEN IT SAID, YOU KNOW, HOW I GUESS HE SAYS HE WANTS TO DO A SOME KIND OF GALLERY THING OR SOMETHING AT THE END OF THE AT THE END OF THE PROJECT OR THE END OF THE CLASSES WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN AND I GUESS, BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IF I'M NOT ANGELA.

DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? I THINK HE SAID THAT.

YEAH, HE DID SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S I WONDERED, DOES HE WORK WORKED FOR? DOES HE WORK FOR VILLAGE TECH? I WAS BEGINNING TO WONDER IF HE WORKED FOR VILLAGE TECH.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. SO THEN, WHICH I YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT KIND OF EVENT.

ALSO, HE WASN'T ASKING FOR THAT. THAT'S OKAY.

AND THEN I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY WEEKS, YOU KNOW, FOR $30.

YOU KNOW HOW MANY WEEKS THAT WAS FOR THE KIDS. IT REALLY WASN'T CLEAR IN WHAT HIS INTENT WAS ON ON THAT ONE AS WELL.

SO THOSE WERE QUESTION MARKS. THAT'S ALL I HAD.

TIM. THE $30 WAS A DATE FOR THE DAY THAT THEY COME IN AND DO IT.

THAT WAS DAILY. YES. PER DAY. PER. PER CLASS.

PER CLASS. YES. PER CLASS. OKAY. IT WAS $3,530 FOR THE DAY WHEN HE DOES THE CLASS ON A MONDAY.

OKAY. WELL, UNDER HIS BUDGET, IT REALLY DIDN'T SEEM TO REFLECT THAT EITHER.

NO, NO, IT DOES NOT. IT'S ON THE FLIER. SO IT'S ON.

IT'S ON THE FLIER. OH, OKAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLIER.

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IT SAYS $30 A DAY. ART SHOW AND COMPETITIONS.

SEE, I WAS BEGINNING TO THINK HE MIGHT EVEN WORK FOR VILLAGE TECH, SO I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? WELL, I HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING YET.

ACTUALLY, I THOUGHT IT LOOKED LIKE A BUSINESS SUBSIDY INSTEAD OF A ART APPLICATION.

YES. HE'S TEACHING. I KNOW WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD FUND A BUSINESS.

BUSINESSES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ARTS GRANTS. YES, IF THEY ARE DOING AN ART PROJECT.

BUT TO ME, THIS WAS A THIS WAS HIS BUSINESS IS NOT ART.

HIS BUSINESS IS TEACHING. BUT, I MEAN, I GAVE IT A SCORE.

I GAVE IT A 70. BUT THAT WAS JUST MY COMMENT.

YEAH. IT IMPLIES THIS GRANT WOULD PAY FOR HIS FEES.

THE SCHOOL WOULDN'T PAY FOR THAT. THE GRANT, BUT $30 PER STUDENT? THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT FEE. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT MEETS HOT.

I DON'T THINK IT CONTRIBUTES TO TOURISM OR HEADS IN BEDS.

I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE, WORTHY PROJECT. NOT UNLESS PERHAPS WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW IT COULD MEET THE HOT GUIDELINE.

AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER MONEY. SO IF IT'S IF IT'S A HOT GRANT TO ME, I DON'T THINK IT MEETS THE CRITERIA, EVEN THOUGH I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE PROJECT.

THANKS. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? SO LET ME JUST GIVE YOU APPLICANTS MUST BE 18 PLUS. MUST BE IN GOOD STANDING.

APPLICANTS MUST BE COMPLETE. APPLICATIONS MUST BE COMPLETE AND DEMONSTRATE CAPACITY TO EXECUTE PROJECT PROHIBITED USES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, OR LANDSCAPE OR LAND PURCHASE.

POLITICAL OR RELIGIOUS PROGRAMING. ACADEMIC CLASS CREDITS.

PROJECT RETROACTIVE FUNDING, PRIVATE NONPUBLIC EVENTS, FUNDRAISERS, RECEPTIONS OR PARTIES.

DEFICIT OR LITIGATION SUPPORT. SCHOOL FUNDED WORKSHOPS.

PROGRAMS LACKING PUBLIC ACCESS.

MY OPINION, MY OPINION HAS BEEN SWAYED ON THE HOT ON THE HOT PART.

SO THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE THAT I THINK IT WAS AMY AND ALEX WHO TALKED ABOUT HOT.

THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE THAT DEMONSTRATES THE TOURISM COMPONENT.

UNLESS I MISSED IT. DO YOU GUYS SEE ANYTHING IN THE APPLICATION THAT ADDRESSES THE THE THE HOT ELIGIBILITY THAT I'M MISSING? YEAH, I SEE THE TO PROMOTE TOURISM. HE DID TALK ABOUT DOING HOSTING A PUBLIC SHOWCASE, PUBLIC SHOWCASES AND SO FORTH, HAVING VISITORS AND PEOPLE COME TO DUNCANVILLE TO SEE THE THE RESULTS OF THE STUDENTS ARTWORK.

OKAY. YEAH. IT'S YEAH, YEAH. SO IN IN IT DEPENDS ON THAT CRITERIA, YOU KNOW.

IS THAT ENOUGH? IT HAS BEEN ENOUGH FOR SOME OF THE OTHER GRANTS THAT WE'VE GRANTED IN THE PAST.

YEAH. BECAUSE THERE'S NO GUARANTEES. SO LET'S HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

DOES IT MEET THE ELIGIBILITY OF OUR, OF OUR ARTS POLICY? AND DOES IT MEET ELIGIBILITY OF HOT. CAN WE TALK ON THOSE TWO POINTS? TIM, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK IT MEETS THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THE ARTS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DO IS PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, ARTS AND ACCESS TO ARTS LEARNING AND, YOU KNOW, TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK IT, I THINK IT DOES MEET ELIGIBILITY WITH THAT GRAY AREA OF THE HOT FUNDS.

AND WHAT DO YOU THINK? I AGREE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF COLLABORATION WITH AN INDIVIDUAL ARTIST AND THE VILLAGE TECH LOCATION.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A IT'S A PROJECT NOT IN THEIR CURRICULUM, BUT ADD IT TO THEIR WHATEVER THEY OFFER.

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AND DO YOU THINK THAT IT MEETS BOTH THE CRITERIA OF THE ARTS POLICY AND HOT? I DON'T KNOW, I BOW TO MAJORITY OPINION ON THIS ONE.

SARAH, WHAT DO YOU THINK? DOES IT DOES IT MEET ELIGIBILITY FOR BOTH? I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT MEETS ELIGIBILITY FOR BOTH.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT MEETS FOR THE HOT FUN. LIKE I JUST DON'T SEE.

I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S A VERY NARROW GROUP OF PEOPLE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME AND SPEND A NIGHT TO SEE THESE I GUESS ART SHOWS, SHOWCASES OR WHATEVER. UNLESS IT'S LIKE, WITH OTHER EVENTS, BUT YEAH, I'M JUST NOT REALLY CONVINCED RIGHT NOW ON THAT PART. MARIANNE, DO YOU THINK THAT IT MEETS ELIGIBILITY FOR BOTH THE ARTS POLICY AND HOT? I DON'T I THINK IF HE HAD IF HE WAS NOT CHARGING STUDENTS AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S A HEFTY WEEKLY FEE FOR STUDENTS THEN. MAYBE. BUT I DON'T THINK IT DOES MEET HOT.

OKAY, AMY, DO YOU THINK IT MEETS ELIGIBILITY FOR BOTH THE ARTS POLICY AND I THINK THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THE FOR OUR GRANT GUIDELINES IS QUESTIONABLE, THAT IT COULD MEET IT IF HE WERE TO REAPPLY WITH A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S CLEAR ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT QUALIFIES FOR HOT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A REALLY COOL THING. AND I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE SAYS THE PARENTS AND THE FAMILY WOULD COME.

WE WE APPROACHED THAT SAME THING WITH OUR CHILDREN'S WORKSHOPS AT DCT, AND I DON'T IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I DON'T ASK FOR HOT FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE CHILDREN'S WORKSHOPS, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A A FAR REACH TO SAY THAT IT'S REALLY HUGE TOURISM.

IT IS TOURISM. I MEAN, GRANDPARENTS AND PEOPLE COME TO SEE IT, BUT THEY DON'T USUALLY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AND THEY DON'T SPEND THE NIGHT.

SO I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR, BUT I DON'T THINK IT MEETS THE CRITERIA ON EITHER FRONT.

REALLY. SO. OKAY, ANGELA, WHAT DO YOU THINK? THANK YOU.

AMY. WHAT DO YOU THINK, ANGELA? DO YOU THINK IT MEETS ELIGIBILITY FOR THE POLICY IN HOT.

I THINK IT MEETS ELIGIBILITY FOR THE GRANT I BELIEVE I HAVE FOR ME, I HAD ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE THAT.

MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. SINGLE PROJECT ONE. I MEAN, IT IS AN ARTS PROGRAM, AND IT'S WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PROMOTE.

AND I THINK THERE'S NO GUARANTEE ABOUT THE. HEADS AND BEDS THING, BUT WHEN WE DID THE FORMER ONES, I MEAN, WE THEY ALWAYS SAID THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THEY GIVE YOU A LITTLE GRACE ON THE FIRST GO ROUND.

SO THE DURING THE LAST DURING THE LAST REVIEW, THE CITY ATTORNEY HE HAD HE HAD SUGGESTED TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WITH FIRST TIME EVENTS, YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE. AND SO HE SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO KIND OF LAY BACK ON IT TO SEE HOW IT WORKS.

NOW, IF THESE PEOPLE COME, WHAT HE SAID WAS, IF PEOPLE COME BACK AND IT TURNS OUT THEY REALLY IT REALLY DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA FOR HOT. THEN HE'LL HE'LL PULL DOWN ON IT. BUT I OFFER THAT AS CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY DID MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.

IF THERE'S NOT ANY MORE DISCUSSION, IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? YEAH.

SO SO I WAS I WAS LOOKING AT THE MATH ON UNDER HIS BUDGET AND YOU KNOW, HE'S HE HAS INSTRUCTOR FEES. SO HALF OF THE BUDGET WOULD THAT WE WOULD OFFER WOULD, WOULD GO TO PAYING HIS FEE.

IT'S HE'S HE'S GOT DOWN HE'S BASICALLY PUT HIS BUDGET TOGETHER FOR ONE, ONE CLASS, NOT AN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM.

IT'S JUST LIKE ONE CLASS BASED ON HIS MATCHING FUNDS WHERE IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE FEES AT $30 EACH, HE'S GOT A $300 AMOUNT THAT HE WOULD COLLECT FROM FEES.

AND THAT'S TEN STUDENTS. AND FOR ONE CLASS IF HE HAS EIGHT CLASSES, THEN IT'S EIGHT TIMES.

THAT IS WHAT HE WOULD BE ASKING FOR. SO I THINK THIS IS THE KIND OF PROGRAM THAT HE COULD PUT TOGETHER HIMSELF AS A, AS A BUSINESS ENDEAVOR AND STILL MAKE THE KIND OF MONEY HE NEEDS IF HE'S CHARGING $30 PER STUDENT.

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I'VE TAUGHT OUR CLASSES LIKE THAT BEFORE, AND IT'S SO TO ME, I, I DON'T THINK THIS PROGRAM IS DEPENDENT ON WHETHER OR NOT HE GETS THIS GRANT, HE COULD REWORK IT A DIFFERENT WAY.

THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, BASED ON WHAT YOU HAD SAID, THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, THEN I WOULD MODIFY.

YOU KNOW, I YOU KNOW, WE CAN THROW A DART AND SAY IT LOOSELY.

LOOSELY COULD POTENTIALLY ON A GOOD DAY QUALIFY FOR HOT.

SO I'M NOT AS OPPOSED TO IT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THAT RECOMMENDATION.

YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT IS MY OWN PERSONAL 30 YEARS OF STANDING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND HAVING TO ANSWER BEING VERY, VERY HEAVILY SCRUTINIZED AS TO WHETHER OR NOT I PUT HEADS IN BEDS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WORRY AND I WOULDN'T WANT THIS PERSON TO BE IN THAT POSITION EITHER.

SO. BUT IF IF IT'S US AND AND AND THE ATTORNEY SAYS WE'LL LOOK LOOSELY THE FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A, I THINK IT'S. I THINK IT'S A WORTHY TRY.

I THINK IT'S A GRAY AREA, BUT WE AWARDED SOME GRAY AREA ONES LAST TIME TOO.

SO ANYWAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTION REMEMBER MOTIONS ARE MADE IN THE POSITIVE. AND.

YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION REFLECTS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WANT TO GIVE TO CITY COUNCIL.

REMEMBER, WE'RE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY WILL MAKE THIS DETERMINATION.

BUT THEY THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND OUR RATIONALE FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WANT.

SO IS THERE A MOTION ON THE TABLE THAT SORT OF ENCAPSULATES ALL THIS THAT WE CAN TAKE A STAB AT? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE THAT WE FUND THE J.R.

STUDIOS VIDEOS. GRANT APPLICATION FOR $3,000.

CAN YOU MAKE THE MOTION WHERE IT BE? WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL TO FUND THE J.R.

STUDIOS GRANT FOR $3,000. IS THERE A SECOND? IF THERE'S NO. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. IT DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND.

SO, ALEX, WHAT WE DO IN A SITUATION. DO YOU WANT TO.

DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE THE MOTION TO TO. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD.

SO REMEMBER THE THE THE MOTION IS MADE IN THE POSITIVE.

BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE RECOMMENDED, YOU COULD VOTE AGAINST IT.

YOU KNOW, I'LL SECOND IT SO WE CAN HAVE A VOTE.

OKAY, SO THERE'S A MOTION BY ANGELA. THERE'S A SECOND BY TIM.

I'M GOING TO GO DOWN AGAIN. SO, ANGELA, CAN YOU REPEAT THE MOTION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE ON IT? I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL TO FUND THE J.R.

STUDIOS. GRANT REQUEST FOR $3,000. OKAY. TIM? YES OR NO? YAY OR NAY? YES. AND YES. SARAH.

YES, MARYANN. I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THAT TO BE REPEATED.

I KNOW WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT MOTION REPEATED.

ANGELA. RECOMMENDATION TO FUND A RECOMMENDATION TO FUND THE GRANT REQUEST FOR J.R.

STUDIOS FOR $3,000. OH, OKAY. I'LL SAY NO. AMY.

NO. ANGELA. YES. OKAY, I'M GOING TO SAY YES.

I WASN'T KEEPING SCORE ON THAT ONE. FIVE. FOUR.

TWO AGAINST. WITH TWO ABSENT. OKAY, ALEX, CAN YOU SHOW US APPLICATION FOR.

THIS IS SUBMITTED BY PUNK. PUNK SOCIAL. THE EVENT PROJECT NAME IS DUNCANVILLE LAUGHFEST, A COMEDY SHOWCASE FEATURING THE BEST COMEDIANS

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THE 4500 IS THE REQUEST FOR A PUBLIC ART GRANT.

SO, ALEX, DO THEY VERIFY THEIR RESIDENCE? I DID.

LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK. SINCE I ALREADY GOT.

I ALREADY UNDERMINED MYSELF ONCE ON THIS.

BECAUSE UNLESS IT'S A TYPO, THEY HAVE A DUNCANVILLE ADDRESS, BUT THEY SAY THEY DON'T LIVE OR WORK IN DUNCANVILLE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A TYPO. NO. I THINK THEY PROBABLY WORK IN DALLAS MOST OF THE TIME, BUT THIS WOULD BE FOCUSED ON DUNCANVILLE PERFORMANCE.

BUT IT GIVES THE DUNCANVILLE MAILING ADDRESS. I'M NOT SURE WHO'S WHAT THAT IS, BUT THAT'S A PERSONAL ADDRESS.

HE PROBABLY LIVES IN DUNCAN. THEN THAT MAKES HIM ELIGIBLE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. HE DID A TYPO WHEN HE SAID, DO YOU LIVE OR OPERATING A BUSINESS? HE SAID, NO, BUT I HIGHLIGHTED THAT THINKING THAT MAYBE HE DOES.

OKAY. IT'S ALSO THE WRONG CATEGORY. IT CAN'T BE PUBLIC ART BECAUSE THERE'S NO VISUAL COMPONENT.

CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY, I PUT SINGLE PROJECT.

I THOUGHT THAT TOO I DID TOO, YOU DID NOT SEND.

SO WHAT WAS NOT INCLUDED WAS A DETAILED PROJECT BUDGET.

OTHER THAN WHAT IS IN THE PROPOSAL. DID NOT COMPLETE A VENDOR PACKET AND DID NOT PROVIDE PROOF OF DUNCANVILLE RESIDENCY OR BUSINESS OPERATION.

HE DIDN'T HE DIDN'T PROVIDE A VENDOR PACKET. NO, HE HADN'T PROVIDED ANY OF THOSE THREE ITEMS. AND I DID REQUEST THOSE YESTERDAY WHILE I WAS REVIEWING.

OKAY. SO I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IT'S KIND OF MOOD IF THEY DON'T HAVE A VENDOR PACKET ON RECORD, RIGHT. WELL, WE CAN AS LONG AS WE GET THE VENDOR PACKET BEFORE THE INCONVENIENCES FOR FOR HIM.

I MEAN, WE PUT IT AS A REQUIREMENT UNDER THE PRETENSE OF GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE STEPS AND BEING THOROUGH WHEN YOU DO THE APPLICATION AND MAKING SURE ALL YOUR I'S ARE DOTTED AND ALL YOUR T'S ARE CROSSED. IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US TO PROCESS THE PAYMENT IN A TIMELY MANNER.

BUT THERE'S NOTHING REALLY THAT PREVENTS SAYING YOU'RE AWARDED THE MONEY.

WE JUST CAN'T. WE JUST CAN'T PAY YOU. I CAN'T TELL WHERE IT JUST SAYS THAT IT WOULD BE A MONTHLY PG 13 COMEDY SHOW IN DUNCANVILLE, BUT I DON'T SEE A LOCATION, SECURED LOCATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH. CAN WE GO DOWN THE DOWN THE LIST HERE SO WE CAN ALL COMMENT ON THIS? YEAH. SO TIM, YOU'RE FIRST ON THE LIST. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ON ONE OF HIS DOCUMENTS, THE ONE WITH THE PUNK SOCIAL LOGO, HE SAYS WE ARE REQUESTED REQUESTING A MONTHLY BUDGET OF 4500 MONTHLY BUDGET. HE TALKS ABOUT A MONTHLY SHOW.

IF IN THAT CASE, HE WOULD REALLY BE LOOKING FOR AN ANNUAL ARTS PROGRAM GRANT.

IT SEEMS TO ME IF IF HE'S WANTING TO DO THIS MONTHLY KIND OF THING I QUESTION BASED ON THE WAY HE PUT HIS APPLICATION TOGETHER. SOME INCONSISTENCIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I REALLY QUESTION HIS ABILITY TO PULL THIS OFF, EVEN THOUGH APPARENTLY HE'S DONE IT AT SOME COMEDY CLUBS IN OTHER LOCATIONS, ACCORDING TO WHAT HE'S SUBMITTED. THAT'S ON MY RATING.

WAS. LET'S SEE. IT'S PROBABLY MY LOWEST ONE YET.

220 OUT OF 500. THANKS, TIM. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? I THOUGHT IT'S A FUN IDEA. I WAS CONFUSED, I SAID, WHERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S UNSPECIFIC AND THE AMOUNT SEEMED HIGH, AND YET IT WOULD COVER VENUE RENTAL. BUT THE MONTHLY THING WAS ALSO KIND OF ODD.

70 MINUTES PER SHOW, AS IF THERE'S GOING TO BE 12 SHOWS.

AND I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM YOU DEVELOPED ENOUGH IN A SPECIFIC WAY FOR US TO UNDERSTAND

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LOCATION IS PENDING UPON APPROVAL. I DON'T LIKE THAT.

SARAH, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT? I MEAN I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE LIKE IT.

I'VE HAD SOME I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LOCATION EVEN HOW THEY'RE PLANNING TO MARKET IT.

I MEAN, I KNOW IT SAYS LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT THEN IT JUST KIND OF IT'S VERY BROAD, LIKE GOOD VIBES KIND OF THING.

AND THEN I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ON THE, ON THE MONTHLY BUDGET OF 4500 AS WELL, LIKE HOW THEY COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.

AND THEN IF IT'S REALLY AN ANNUAL OR KIND OF MORE OF A SINGLE PROJECT.

SO I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF LIKE, HOLES IN IT THAT I FEEL THAT I SCORED IT PRETTY LOW? THANKS, SARAH. MARYANN, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE ORIGINAL TO ADD THAN ALL THOSE THINGS.

I PERSONALLY DIDN'T FIND IT ELIGIBLE, BUT. YEAH.

OKAY. YEAH. AMY. DITTO. I'M SORRY. I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID.

I DON'T THINK IT'S DITTO. I DON'T THINK IT'S IT'S CLEAR ENOUGH.

IT'S NOT CONCISE ENOUGH TO SAY THAT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL VENUES.

ALL I CAN TELL YOU, THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF PERFORMANCE VENUES IN DUNCANVILLE AVAILABLE FOR RENT.

WHICH IS WHY, YOU KNOW, I GET CALLS DAILY. SO I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH I DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH THOUGHT AND PLANNING IN THIS, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S ELIGIBLE. ANGELA. I THINK HE DID MAKE A MISTAKE ON A COUPLE OF THINGS, BECAUSE HE DID INDICATE IN HIS WRITE THAT HIS FIVE YEAR RESIDENCE RESIDENT AND SO FORTH.

I THINK YOU APPLIED FOR THE WRONG PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, HE SAID PUBLIC ART GRANTS THINGS A SINGLE PROJECT.

I KNOW THAT WE APPROVED A COMEDY PROJECT LAST QUARTER, AND THEY DID IT AT THIBODEAU'S.

SO IT COULD HAPPEN ONCE HE FIGURES OUT WHAT THE VENUES ARE.

I DON'T KNOW. I, I KNOW IF HE'S ASKING FOR 4500, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM THAT MUCH. WE CAN GIVE THEM HALF OF THAT OR WHATEVER.

OKAY. YEAH. SO I FEEL LIKE THE. WE NEED A MORE PRECISE APPLICATION.

I'VE GOT A LOT OF THE SAME FLAGS. IF THERE COULD BE I'M SORRY.

IS THERE ANY MORE? IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? OH, DID YOU SAY SOMETHING? TIMES 12. IT WOULD BE $54,000. OKAY. IF IT'S A MONTHLY BUDGET.

OKAY. RIGHT. IF IT'S AN ANNUAL PROJECT. RIGHT.

AND THAT LIMIT IS 20,000 FOR THE ANNUAL PROJECT.

RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH, BUT THE TOTAL PROJECT. BUT PER THE APPLICATION, THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET IS 4500.

AMOUNT REQUESTED FROM THE DUNCANVILLE ARTS COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL IS 4500.

SO WHILE THE NARRATIVE IS SAYING 54,000, THE BUDGET SECTION AND THE REQUEST IS NOT THOSE AMOUNTS. I GOTCHA. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT WE BEGIN TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE ARTS COMMISSIONS.

AND AND WE WERE VERY WE FOUND A PATHWAY DURING OUR FIRST PROCESS.

MY CONCERNS ON THIS IS THAT HE DIDN'T SUPPLY HIS VENDOR PACKET.

AND THAT THERE'S NO LOCATION. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE LIVES OR WHERE HE WORKS.

SO THAT'S A BRIDGE TOO FAR FOR ME. HE LIVES IN DUNCANVILLE.

HE LIVES IN DUNCANVILLE. HE'S A FIVE YEAR RESIDENT OF DUNCANVILLE.

OKAY. OKAY. SO IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? OKAY, SO A MOTION ON THE TABLE. MEMBERS IN THE POSITIVE.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO. IT'S A VOTE. YES OR NO.

SO IS THERE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? I RECOMMEND I MOVE THAT WE DO NOT FUND THIS PROJECT, BUT MAYBE SEND HIM AN EMAIL. COULD YOU COULD YOU REPHRASE YOUR MOTION IN THE IN THE POSITIVE? OKAY. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS INSTRUCTED US TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE POSITIVE.

THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT. AND THEN SO. SO YES, I DON'T KNOW.

HOW DO YOU POSITIVELY SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT?

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SO IN THE POSITIVE WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND FUNDING IT IN THE, IN THE REQUESTED AMOUNT.

AND THEN EVERYBODY CAN JUST VOTE YES IF THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT OR AGAINST.

SO YOU'RE ALWAYS MAKING A MOTION THAT IS TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION TO APPROVE FUNDING THIS IN THE AMOUNT OF AND THEN YOU JUST UPVOTED OR DOWNVOTED.

THANK YOU ALEX. SO WHY ARE WE THEN CAN WE NOT HAVE A STANDING MOTION FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE THAT SAYS WE WE MAKE THAT MOTION BECAUSE IF THAT'S HOW WE HAVE TO WORD THEM ALL, WHETHER WE. I MEAN, IT'S JUST WE HAVE TO.

WE SHOULD JUST GO. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? STANDING.

WELL, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU MADE ADJUST, YOU MAY CHANGE YOUR MOTION BASED ON IF YOU WANT A DIFFERENT FUNDING AMOUNT OR IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE CATEGORY LIKE YOU DID. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S YOUR POINT.

SO IS THERE AN WOULD YOU LIKE TO REPHRASE THE MOTION? OKAY. I MOVE THAT WE VOTE TO FUND THIS GROUP.

THIS GROUP, PUNK SOCIAL $4,500 FOR THEIR PROJECT.

NOT THAT IT MATTERS, BUT WE DON'T FUND. WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY. THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL. OKAY.

IS THERE A OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO 4500.

3000 IS ALL THAT THEY CAN GET THE FIRST TIME APPLICANT.

I'M SORRY, ANNE. I THOUGHT YOU SAID 3000. NO, SHE SAID 4500.

OKAY, SORRY. AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO REPEAT THE MOTION? AND THEN WE SEE IF WE HAVE A SECOND. I MOVE. THANK YOU.

I MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT AT $4,500.

OKAY. MOTION ON THE TABLE. IS THERE A SECOND? SHE DID THE SAME THING. 4500. I KNOW, BUT YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST IT OR NOT.

THAT'S HER MOTION. IF THERE'S A SECOND, IS THERE A SECOND? OTHERWISE IT DIES I SECOND. OKAY. SO WE HAVE.

SO ANGELA. SECOND, THERE'S A MOTION FROM ANNE. THERE'S A SECOND FROM ANGELA.

IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? OKAY I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE.

TEN. YES OR NO? NO AND YES OR NO? NO. SARAH? YES OR NO? NO. MARIANNE? YES OR NO? NO. AMY. YES OR NO? NO.

ANGELA. YES OR NO? NO. I'M A NO ON THAT AS WELL.

ALEX, COULD YOU SHOW US APPLICATION FIVE? AND IF YOU COULD READ IT OUT FOR US, PLEASE, FOR THE RECORD.

OKAY. THIS IS APPLICANT'S NAME IS RICHARD B. KINGA.

HOPEFULLY I GOT THAT RIGHT. THE EVENT PROJECT EVENT TITLE IS DUNCANVILLE, THE CITY OF CHAMPIONS.

CREATE A MUSICAL RENDITION WITH A CATCHY REFRAIN THAT CELEBRATES THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY OF DUNCANVILLE.

THE SONG, RECORDED BY LOCAL ARTISTS IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH, SHOWCASES THE CITY'S RICH CULTURAL IDENTITY, DIVERSITY AND UNITY. THIS IS. SET FOR JANUARY 5TH TO JUNE 10TH, 26. SUBMITTED AS A PUBLIC ART GRANT AND THE REQUESTED AMOUNT IS $15,000.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. I'M GOING TO START WITH TIM. REMEMBER WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO EVERYBODY. TIM, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? I LOOKED OVER HIS BUDGET. I DON'T SEE THE PUBLIC ASPECT OF IT, EVEN THOUGH HE SETS IT UP LIKE THERE'S GOING TO BE PUBLIC.

BUT THEN WHEN HE GOES INTO THE INTO HIS BUDGET, HE TALKS ABOUT HIRING PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, HIRING, YOU KNOW, GIVING, HIRING, SONGWRITER HIRING.

AT A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL. HE'S YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT HE EXPLAINS IT AS THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE WORLD, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, SING ALONG KIND OF THING.

AND YET WHEN HE BREAKS HIS BUDGET DOWN, I SAW THAT HE WAS REALLY.

IT LOOKED PRETTY PRIVATE TO ME OR PRETTY PROFESSIONAL AT THAT LEVEL.

I ALSO DON'T SEE HOW YOU KNOW, UNLESS THERE'S A LARGE CONCERT AND MAYBE I MISSED THAT.

AND THERE MIGHT BE HOW IT REALLY WILL FLY THROUGH THE HOT FUNDS.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. TIM. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT? I THINK IT'S A DELIGHTFUL PROJECT. IT'S UNUSUAL.

AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO PUT DUNCANVILLE ON THE MAP MORE.

AND THE BUDGET SEEMS HIGH, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU WOULD CUT OUT FROM IT, BUT IT DOES SEEM WELL THOUGHT THROUGH IN TERMS OF

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SARAH. SO I LIKE THE IDEA, BUT SOME RED FLAGS THAT KIND OF POPPED UP FOR ME WERE I, I, WAS TRYING TO SEE HOW HE'S INVOLVING LIKE LOCAL PEOPLE FROM DUNCANVILLE TO BE PART OF IT.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S MORE OUTSIDERS AND MAYBE JUST USING OUR SPACES.

AND I SAW WHERE HE SAID THAT HE'S STILL, LIKE GOING THROUGH LOCAL SCHOOLS AND ART CLUBS TO SEE WHO'S INTERESTED.

THE LOCATIONS, LIKE, THEY. I MEAN, THEY'RE GOOD LOCATIONS, BUT ARE THEY GOING TO FIT, LIKE, OTHER THAN THE ARMSTRONG PARK? ARE THEY MADE FOR, YOU KNOW, BIG CROWDS IN ORDER TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO STAY THE NIGHT AND AND, AND SPEND MONEY HERE. AND THEN I WASN'T SURE IF THE CATEGORY FIT WHAT HE WAS DOING.

I MEAN, PUBLIC ART GRANT IS VISUAL ART, ISN'T IT? BUT. WELL, I GUESS OKAY. NEVERMIND. I GUESS THAT IS VISUAL.

I'M THINKING MORE LIKE PAINTING, BUT OKAY, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.

THANKS, SARAH. MARIANNE. WELL TO ME AGAIN, I JUST SEE IT AS A COMMERCIAL VENTURE.

IT'D BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD PURCHASE BUT NOT AS ART.

THEY WOULD DO IT FOR PROMOTIONAL PURPOSES. PROBABLY OUGHT TO DO IT.

I JUST AM NOT SURE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GIVE HIM AS MUCH MONEY AS HE'S GOING TO EVER ASK.

AND IT'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I IT IT JUST COULD VARY SO MUCH.

IT'S AN INTANGIBLE KIND OF AMOUNT. PLUS THE HOT, THE HOT FUNDS ISSUE, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. WHAT DO YOU THINK? THANKS, MARIANNE. AMY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I DON'T THINK IT'S HOT ELIGIBLE.

THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE. I DON'T THINK IT HAS A VISUAL COMPONENT TO BE THE PUBLIC ART GRANT.

THOSE ARE MY TWO REAL BIG CONCERNS. I LOVE THE PLACE, BUT I THINK IT'S A BIT PRESUMPTUOUS TO THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY THEY WOULD COLLABORATE WITH THE CITY, I DON'T. I THINK THIS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY MIGHT UNDERTAKE.

I THINK IT WOULD SEND MAYBE NOT THE BEST MESSAGE TO THE ARTS COMMISSION TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE THE CITY, AS THEY CALL IT, THE CITY RALLYING CRY, OR I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT ALL WAS IN THERE.

I, I THINK THAT THAT'S THAT'S UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY TO DO THAT AND NOT NECESSARILY AN INDEPENDENT BUSINESS.

SO ANYWAY, I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S ELIGIBLE BASED ON HOT.

SO, ANGELA, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I FELT IT WAS INELIGIBLE AS A PUBLIC ART GRANT BECAUSE IT WAS I FROM MY INTERPRETATION, IT WAS A PERFORMING ART ART THING.

AND THOSE INELIGIBLE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO RECLASSIFY IT TO MAYBE A SINGLE ART PROGRAM.

IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH I JUST THINK HE WAS IN THE WRONG CATEGORY.

AND FOR THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY, HE'S NOT ELIGIBLE.

OKAY. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? OKAY.

THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WHETHER TO RECOMMEND THIS TO CITY COUNCIL? I'LL MOVE THAT. WE RECOMMEND THIS PROPOSAL TO CITY COUNCIL.

THANKS. MARY ANN. IS THERE A SECOND? WHO WHO SECONDED IT? I SECOND. SARAH. SECOND. MARIANNE. OKAY. SO IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? WE HAVE A WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? OKAY, WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL. TIM. YES OR NO? NO AND YES OR NO? I SAY YES, SARAH. YES OR NO? NO. MARY ANN, YES OR NO? NO. AMY. YES OR NO? NO.

ANGELA. YES OR NO? NO. AND I'M A NO ON THAT TOO.

AND COULD WE ASK THEM? I MEAN, I AM HAPPY TO BE AMONG ALL OF US WHO ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN WE'RE ALL GOING TO VOTE FOR WHICH I INTEND TO VOTE NO.

IS THERE SOME OTHER WAY WE COULD FIGURE OUT TO WORD THAT SO IT DOESN'T? SO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? THE. WELL, THE REASON I'M ASKING THAT IS BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL ASKED US TO MAKE.

NO, I KNOW THAT. I MEAN, IS THERE A WAY WE COULD ASK THEM TO HAVE CLARIFICATION ON THAT?

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SO IT TO ME, IT JUST SEEMS. WOULD YOU RECOMMEND.

NO, NO I RECOMMEND WE ASK THEM HOW DO WE HOW DO YOU DO THAT? HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU DO THAT? HEY, ALEX, WOULD YOU MAKE A NOTE FOR THAT? SO. OKAY, SO HOW DO YOU DO WHAT? HOW? I AM NOW ON RECORD AS RECOMMENDING A PROJECT TO WHICH I THEN VOTE NO. AND IT DOESN'T REALLY SEEM LIKE THE RIGHT THING.

THAT'S ALWAYS HOW CITY COUNCIL DOES IT. THEY ALWAYS VOTE.

THEY ALWAYS MAKE THE MOTION IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, AND THEN IT'S UP OR DOWN.

VOTED. SO. OH, SO THEY DO IT TOO? WELL, IF THEY DO, THAT'S THE WAY THEY ALWAYS DO THEIR MOTIONS.

I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. SO THEY'LL THEY'LL THEY'LL TYPICALLY VOTE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE OR A VOTE TO APPROVE A GRANT AND THEN MAKE THAT MOTION AS I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THIS GRANT AND THIS AMOUNT AND THEN THE THE THEN THEY VOTE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST. THAT SEEMS WEIRD, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.

THANK YOU. SURE. THANKS, MARIANNE. ALL RIGHT.

ALEX, CAN YOU PULL UP APPLICATION NUMBER SIX AND READ IT TO US, PLEASE? FOR THE RECORD. SO THIS WAS SUBMITTED BY BRENDA RANDALL.

THE EVENT TITLE IS, IN THE WORDS OF ASSISTA STORIES IN VERSE.

THE EVENT WOULD TAKE PLACE AT ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER 6TH, 2025, AT THE DUNCANVILLE RECREATION CENTER.

THE SUMMARY IS THE WORDS OF A SISTER. STORIES AND VERSE IS A LIVE PERFORMANCE FEATURING POWERFUL POETS AND VOCALISTS FROM DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS AND GENERATIONS.

THROUGH A DYNAMIC BLEND OF VERSE AND SONG, THESE ARTISTS SHARE THEIR UNIQUE STORIES AND COLLECTIVE JOURNEYS THAT CONNECT WOMEN. THIS PROJECT CREATES A DEDICATED SPACE FOR COMMUNITY REFLECTION, EMPOWERMENT, HONORING THESE VITAL RELATIONSHIPS.

THIS WAS A SINGLE PROJECT SUPPORT GRANT THE AMOUNT REQUESTED WAS $3,000.

THE BUDGET WAS SUBMITTED. THE ADDRESS IS DALLAS, TEXAS.

OKAY. IS THAT THE ONLY ADDRESS THEY HAVE ON THE RECORD? ON ON THE APPLICATION? ANYTHING ELSE? THE. W9 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADDRESS THAT WAS SUBMITTED.

THE VENDOR PACKET WAS WAS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THAT.

AND PROOF OF DUNCANVILLE RESIDENCY WAS NOT SUBMITTED.

AND I'M GOING TO DOUBLE CHECK ON ONE THING BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS YEAH. THE ONLY THING THAT SHE SUBMITTED WAS THE VENDOR PACKET AFTER I HAD REQUESTED PROOF OF RESIDENCY AND THE VENDOR PACKET.

OKAY, SO IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A GRANT, IS IT? AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE CONFIRMED THE LOCATION.

OKAY, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. TIM, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? WELL, IT'S IT'S IT'S WORTHWHILE IN LOOKING THROUGH THE MATERIALS.

IT LOOKS LIKE SHE'S DONE THIS MANY TIMES BEFORE IN OTHER LOCATIONS.

IT'S IT'S ALREADY A DEVELOPED PROGRAM. WHICH BRINGS THE QUESTION TO OUR ELIGIBILITY.

OUR IT SEEMS, BECAUSE WE'RE LIMITING IT TO DUNCANVILLE RESIDENTS OR DUNCANVILLE BUSINESS.

IT PREVENTS US FROM BRINGING PROGRAMS INTO THE COMMUNITY FROM AN OUTSIDE GROUP, WHICH I FIND MIGHT BE A BIT LIMITING, ESPECIALLY IN A CASE LIKE THIS WHERE ON A TECHNICALITY, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T HAVE THIS IN THE COMMUNITY WHETHER OR NOT IT BRINGS PEOPLE IN, YOU KNOW, TOURISTS OR ANYTHING. I I THINK THEY HAVE A REPUTATION.

THEY MIGHT BRING A DRAW IN FROM OTHER TOWNS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN DONE AROUND, SO I.

RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROJECT? SHE PERFORMED AT OUR JUNETEENTH, AND SHE WAS A FANTASTIC PERFORMER.

AND I HAD GREAT RAPPORT WITH HER. AND I ENCOURAGED HER TO MOVE TO DUNCANVILLE.

BUT SHE WAS EXCITED TO DISCOVER THAT THERE WAS SPECIAL ACTION DOWN HERE.

I MEAN, SHE WAS REALLY VERY MUCH IN RESONANCE WITH OUR EVENT.

AND SHE IS SHE WOULD BE A MAGNIFICENT ADDITION TO ANY PROGRAM WE COULD HAVE EVER.

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I MEAN, DUNCANVILLE IS ONLY THREE AND A HALF MILES WIDE OR SOMETHING.

AND NOT TO HAVE A SPECIAL ARTIST WHO WANTS TO COME TO OUR TOWN TO PRESENT SOMETHING DENIED.

WELL, THAT'S VERY SAD. OKAY, SARAH, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? WELL, I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK EVERYTHING SOUNDS GOOD.

I DID PUT, LIKE, LITTLE QUESTION MARKS ABOUT THE ELIGIBILITY AS FAR AS, LIKE, LIVING OR OPERATING A BUSINESS IN DUNCANVILLE.

AND I DID PUT A QUESTION MARK AS WELL ON PROMOTING IT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE PRETTY WELL ESTABLISHED.

SO THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, BRING SOME PEOPLE. BUT WHEN IT CAME TO SPECIFICS, I DIDN'T REALLY FIND THAT IN THEIR DESCRIPTION.

JUST THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN. SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.

MARIANNE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? YES, I REMEMBER THIS POET WELL.

I HAD MISSED HER PERFORMANCE AND WE WERE OUTSIDE AND SHE GAVE ME THE ENTIRE POEM.

I WAS TRANSFIXED, LIKE IN THE ANCIENT MARINER, I GUESS.

BUT ANYWAY, SHE IT DOESN'T LIVE HERE, AND I DON'T.

I DON'T SEE HOW WE COULD DO THAT IF THERE'S. IS THERE SOME WAY THAT SOMEONE ELSE COULD SPONSOR HER? IT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND SHE IS CHARGING FOR IT.

BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S ELIGIBLE WITH OUR CRITERIA.

OKAY. AMY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PROJECT? I AGREE. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. AND SHE WAS AMAZING AT THE JUNETEENTH EVENT.

I, I REALLY, REALLY ENJOYED HER AND WAS INSPIRED, BUT I DON'T THINK IT MEETS OUR CURRENT CRITERIA.

I THINK I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT I THINK OUR, OUR ELIGIBILITY RULES ARE, IS IS REALLY A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT. AND CERTAINLY GOING FORWARD, WE CAN AMEND THAT.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT AT SOME POINT.

SO THAT WOULDN'T PRECLUDE HER IF WE AMEND THAT TO ALLOW A PERFORMANCE IN DUNCANVILLE BY AN OUTSIDE RESIDENT.

IF WE AMEND THAT, THEN SHE COULD REAPPLY AT A FUTURE DATE.

BUT AT THIS MOMENT, I DON'T BELIEVE IT. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH OUR OUR RULES.

ANGELA, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? I AGREE THAT UNDER OUR CURRENT RULES, SHE'S INELIGIBLE.

I WISH SHE HAD REACHED OUT TO SOMEBODY IN DUNCANVILLE THAT SHE COULD HAVE COLLABORATED WITH AND THAT LIVED IN DUNCANVILLE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH THEM TO DO IT. I'VE GONE TO MANY OF THESE EVENTS THAT SHE HAS, AND SHE'S A MANAGER. SHE SHE'S A MANAGER. DIRECTOR OF THE DALLAS BLACK ARTS.

YEAH. DALLAS BALL, THE BLACK BALL. YEAH. ARTS AND LETTERS.

YEAH. YEAH. SHE IS THE MANAGER OF OF OF OF ART ARTISTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ARTISTS. DEVELOPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I THINK IT'S, I MEAN, I KNOW HER I THINK IT'S A GOOD RELATIONSHIP.

AND SHE WOULD BE GOOD FOR DUNCANVILLE. BUT YES, THE WAY WE HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN, SHE JUST IS NOT ELIGIBLE.

BUT SHE DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB FOR US FOR JUNETEENTH.

SHE DID. AND I GUESS IF A FUTURE ARTS COMMISSION WOULD NEED A REASON TO CONSIDER ADJUSTING THE THE POLICY, THIS MIGHT BE A REASON WHY FOR FOR PEOPLE WHO WE WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THAT IT JUST DOESN'T COMPORT WITH THE POLICY.

IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? I'VE GOT MY HAND UP, BUT DOCTOR PERRY ALSO LOOKS LIKE SHE'S GOT HER.

I'M SORRY. I'M JUST LOOKING DOWN. DOCTOR PERRY AND I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF THE ARTS COMMISSION SPONSORED AN EVENT WHERE SHE PERFORMED WOULD IT BE FREE AT THE SENIOR CENTER INSTEAD OF THAT $600? DON'T KNOW. ALEX. YEAH, IF WE DID IT. YEAH, IF WE SPONSORED IT, YES.

SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE NEW ARTS COMMISSION THAT THEY CONSIDER THAT AS A PROJECT? WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND BRING IT TO THE BOARD AT THAT MEETING.

SO AND THE WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUNDING TO CITY COUNCIL.

BUT I DO BELIEVE BUT THERE ARE COMMISSIONERS HERE TONIGHT WHO WILL BE SHOWING UP NEXT MONTH.

AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN REMEMBER. ALEX, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP IN DISCUSSION? IN DISCUSSION? A COUPLE OF THESE WITH STAFF. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER HOW THE PHRASING WAS THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME, BUT THIS IS AN EVENT THAT WOULD. THIS IS AN EVENT WHERE THE PERSON HAS A REPUTATION OUTSIDE OF DUNCANVILLE

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BUT THERE ARE THIS IS A PERFORMANCE THAT WOULD BE HAPPENING IN DUNCANVILLE AND DOES MEET SOME OF THE OTHER GOALS OF THE ARTS GRANTS, WHICH IS TO BRING AND PROMOTE ART IN THE CITY, TO POTENTIALLY BRING PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY INTO THE CITY WHICH PROMOTES THE CITY.

AND THAT, IN THE SPIRIT OF IT, IT IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT IS BEING APPLIED FOR HERE, IT MEETS THE INTENT. SO, ALEX, IF A IF A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ASKS THE CITY ATTORNEY WHAT WOULD HE SAY TO THEM? YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT HE WOULD SAY TO THEM. I COULDN'T TELL WHAT HE WOULD SAY TO ME.

YEAH, THAT WAS THAT WAS THAT WAS A THAT WAS A BAD QUESTION. THAT QUESTION.

SO HERE'S SO HERE'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

THE THIS WILL WORK AS LONG AS CITY COUNCIL TRUSTS THE CREDIBILITY OF THE ARTS COMMISSION TO MAKE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SET A PRECEDENT MOVING FORWARD FOR FUTURE ARTS COMMISSION.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD APPLICANT WHO WE'VE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST EVERYONE LIKES.

IT'S IT'S IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN MENTIONED TODAY ON TONIGHT ON THE RECORD THAT THIS APPLICANT COULD BRING IN A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY DON'T MEET THE RESIDENCY ELIGIBILITY.

SO HOW WOULD AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW THE, THE, THE MOVEMENT OF THE, THE COMMISSION AND WHAT ITS THOUGHTS ON THIS IS.

BUT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD THINK ABOUT IS. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE RECOMMENDED FUNDING FOR A PROJECT THAT ISN'T ELIGIBLE ACCORDING TO THE POLICY THAT WE WE, WE VOTED ON? SO I'M JUST THROWING THAT IN THERE.

YEAH, WELL BUT RON, WE RECOMMEND AND THEN WE VOTE DOWN SOME AND THEY MAY TURN AROUND AND VOTE TO DO IT.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT. GO EITHER WAY. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? WE COULD ASK HIM. WE COULD ASK THEM TO WAIVE THAT QUALIFICATION FOR THIS FOR THIS PROJECT SO THAT I DON'T WANT TO DIRECT EMOTION. BUT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT.

RIGHT. BECAUSE SHE BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I'VE GONE TO MANY OF HER EVENTS AND SHE CAN PULL I MEAN EVEN WHEN FOR US THEY CAME FROM DALLAS, CEDAR HILL, DESOTO. THEY SHE PULLED THEM IN FROM A LOT OF PLACES.

SURE DID, SURE DID. SO WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT ADDRESSES THESE THINGS? I MEAN, A MOTION. I CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING.

AND I MEAN, WE HAVE TO, ACROSS THE BOARD, BE FAIR TO EVERY OTHER APPLICANT THAT WE MAY HAVE TURNED DOWN BECAUSE OF NOT MEETING THE CRITERIA OF RESIDENCY. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANY SO FAR, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO AT LEAST.

YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM HERE, BUT.

SO PART OF OUR MISSION IS EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION.

ARE WE BEING EQUITABLE IF WE. WE HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES THAT ARE EQUITABLE.

I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALEX, CAN YOU OFFER ANY INSIGHT TO ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED? I THINK WHAT THE THE FEELING OF THE ARTS COMMISSION IS WE REALLY LIKE THIS APPLICANT.

IS BUT YOU'VE ANY ANY INSIGHT THAT YOU CAN OFFER.

TO THAT TURNING UNMUTING HELPS. THE THE REASON THAT YOU VOTED YOU DOWN, VOTED THE EVIDENCE. THEATER PRODUCTIONS WAS A COMBINATION OF THINGS THAT

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IT DID INCLUDE THE WHERE THEY WERE FROM. IT DID INCLUDE THE FACT THAT THEY HADN'T SECURED THE AUDITORIUM YET.

AND. THAT I THINK THAT THEY WERE UTILIZING ONE ONE MIDDLE GRADE STUDENT AS THEIR ANCHOR FOR THE EVENT. BUT IT SEEMED LIKE MOSTLY A LOT OF YOUR FOCUS WAS ON THE FACT OF THEY HADN'T SECURED THE VENUE YET.

THE SECOND ONE THAT WAS NOT HAD NOT ENTERED IN AS A DUNCANVILLE RESIDENT, YOU DOWNVOTED BASED ON WHERE YOU VOTED NOT TO RECOMMEND IT, BASED ON YOU WANTED, I BELIEVE, MORE DETAIL, MORE OF A SENSE OF HOW THIS YOU DIDN'T FEEL THAT THAT ONE MET HOT QUALIFICATIONS AND ACTUALLY YOU DID VOTE TO RECOMMEND IT, BUT YOU DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT. THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT WAS DISCUSSED THAT IT WAS NOT A DUNCANVILLE RESIDENT.

BUT YOU DID VOTE TO RECOMMEND THAT ONE. THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS TAKING PLACE AT VILLAGE TECH.

AND THEN THERE'S THIS ONE, AND THEN THERE'S ONE MORE AFTER THIS.

BUT YOU DID VOTE TO RECOMMEND ONE FOR A NON DUNCANVILLE RESIDENT BECAUSE IT WAS ANCHORED BY VILLAGE TECH.

CAN YOU REMIND ME OF THE VENUE OF THIS? THIS ONE.

THE REC CENTER NOW? YEAH, THE RECREATION CENTER.

AND I HAVE NOT CONFIRMED WHETHER THAT IS RESERVED.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DECEMBER 6TH DATE.

ALEX, LAST YEAR, THE CITY DID A TWO DAY CHRISTMAS EVENT WITH THE PARADE ON ONE DAY, AND I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT.

I DIDN'T IF THAT SATURDAY MIGHT CONFLICT WITH WHAT THE CITY IS DOING FOR ANY KIND OF CHRISTMAS FESTIVITY.

I BELIEVE THAT THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS IT'S NOT A TWO DAY EVENT.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MOVING THE EVENT TO THE SIXTH.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. BUT IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THEY ULTIMATELY DECIDED NOT TO MOVE THE EVENT DATE.

MOVE IT TO A SATURDAY. HEY, ALEX. SO HERE'S A HERE'S A HYPOTHETICAL.

THEY HAVEN'T. THEY HAVEN'T RESERVED THE REC CENTER.

SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE RECOMMENDATION WENT FORWARD? IT WAS ACCEPTED.

GRANT MONEY WAS DISTRIBUTED, BUT THEY COULDN'T GET THE REC CENTER. SHE COULD TRY THE SENIOR CENTER.

SHE COULD TRY OTHER VENUES, BUT THAT WOULD BE ON HER.

SHE COULD TRY KINGSMAN. SHE COULD TRY TIBIDEAUX.

SHE COULD TRY TALUS. SO IN THE APPLICATION, THERE'S SOMETHING, IS THERE? I KNOW THERE'S I KNOW WITHIN THE APPLICATION, THERE'S SOMETHING.

IF YOU'RE USING SOMEBODY ELSE'S SPACE, LIKE A BUILDING FOR SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO GET PERMISSION. AND, ALEX, I KNOW THAT IF IT WAS IN CITY BUILDINGS AT THE LAST PROCESS, YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY PICKED A CITY PLACE, THAT IF THE THAT THERE WAS A RESERVATION FOR THE FOR THE SPACE.

I DID DO THAT WITH THE PREVIOUS. BUT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT I DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT THIS TIME? OKAY. BUT I MEAN, IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF THE THE LOCATION WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE OR THE DATE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE.

IT WOULD JUST BE THE THE EVENT WOULD HAVE TO BE THAT, THAT WOULD HIT THE BALL BACK TO HER TO ADAPT TO THAT.

AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS THE OPTION BECAUSE WHEN I LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY THAT ONE COUNCIL MAKES THE DECISION THAT THEY DO HAVE THE OPTION OF REJECTING THE GRANT.

MY FEELING ON THIS IS I AGREE WITH EVERYONE. IT'S A STRONG APPLICANT.

I MEAN, IT'S A QUALIFIED APPLICANT. SHE'S STRONG.

SHE HITS A LOT OF THE RIGHT SPACES. SO, ALEX, YOU SAID THAT WE HAVE VOTED UP THIS ROUND ON FOLKS WHOSE THEIR RESIDENCY WAS NOT ESTABLISHED IN DUNCANVILLE OR THEY DIDN'T OKAY.

THE ONE THAT FOR JAMES. HELEN. THE CANVAS AND CREATIVITY.

IT WAS A52 WITH TWO ABSENT. I WOULD HAVE. OKAY.

AND I'M JUST. SO THE THE ONE WITH THE THE ONE WITH THE.

OKAY. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? BECAUSE I NEED HELP ON THIS.

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REQUEST FOR $3,000 TO. BRENDA RANDALL.

OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND OR SECOND? AND THERE'S A MOTION BY ANGELA.

THERE'S A SECOND BY ANNE. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? OKAY.

IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, I'M GOING TO TAKE A ROLL CALL. VOTE. TEN.

YES AND YES. SARAH. YES. MARY ANNE. YES.

AMY. YES. ANGELA. YES, I'M A YES, TOO.

OKAY. ALEX. WHEN YOU. THAT WAS IF YOU COULD. SO YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK? I THINK THE FUTURE ARTS COMMISSION, IF THEY CAN LOOK AT THE SOME OF THE STRUGGLES THAT WE HAVE AND BEGIN TO REALLY SHAPE THE NEXT SOME OF THESE THINGS, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO THIS IS SEVEN, ALEX, IF YOU COULD READ IT TO US FOR THE APPLICANT NAME KINGSMAN COFFEY, LLC PUBLIC ART GRANT PROJECT EVENT TITLE KINGSMAN LIVE TO TAKE PLACE SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2025 TO DECEMBER 27TH, 2025 AT KINGSMAN COFFEE. KINGSMAN COFFEE IS HOSTING LIVE LOCAL ARTISTS DURING WHAT WE CALL KINGSMAN LIVE DURING THREE. DURING THESE TIMES, ARTISTS INCLUDING VOCALISTS, PAINTERS, DANCERS OR THEATER GROUPS WILL PERFORM FOR THE DUNCANVILLE AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

THE REQUESTED AMOUNT IS $3,400. THEY SUBMITTED.

I DID NOT ASK FOR PROOF OF RESIDENCY OR BUSINESS OPERATION.

I THINK WE ALL KIND OF WE ALL CAN AGREE THAT THEY OPERATE IN DUNCANVILLE.

THEY DID SUBMIT A BUDGET AND THEY ARE ALREADY A VENDOR, SO I DID NOT NEED A VENDOR PACKET.

OKAY. THANKS, ALEX. LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. TIM, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PROJECT? I FLOATED ABOUT THREE, TEN OUT OF 500 ON THE PROJECT.

THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY. OKAY. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROJECT? WELL, I HAVE A BIAS AGAINST KINGSMAN FOR SEVERAL REASONS, BUT ONE IS THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND TEA DRINKERS OR TEA.

SO I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR. SARAH, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? I, I LIKE IT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. MARY ANN, WHAT DO YOU THINK? MARY ANN, YOU'RE MUTED. YEAH. HEY MARY ANN YOU'RE MUTED.

IF YOU SEE YOUR LITTLE PICTURE AND YOU CLICK THAT MICROPHONE YOU'LL UNMUTE.

HEY ANN IF YOU'RE THERE COULD YOU SEND A CHAT SO WE KNOW THAT YOU CAN HEAR US.

OKAY. SO MARY ANN'S GOT M.I.A. M.I.A. FOR A MINUTE.

LET'S GO ON. ANGELA. OH. I'M SORRY. AMY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PROJECT? I HAVE SOME CONCERNS. THE VERY FIRST CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT THE IS THE GRANT TYPE.

THEY REQUESTED A PUBLIC ART GRANT, WHICH, PER OUR CRITERIA, IS A PERMANENT, PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE VISUAL ART.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS. IT WOULD BE A SINGLE PROJECT OR AN ONGOING AN OPERATIONS.

BUT IT CAN'T BE. IT CAN'T BE A PUBLIC ART GRANT.

SO THAT'S MY FIRST CONCERN. THEY ASKED FOR 3400, AND WE CAN ONLY FUND UP TO 3000, I THINK.

I LIKE KINGSMAN, AND I THINK THEY DO COOL THINGS.

I THINK THEY DO COOL EVENTS. I THINK IT WOULD BE FINE TO TRY IT ONCE AND SEE IF IT REALLY MEETS THE HOT COMPONENT OF TOURISM AND THAT KIND OF THING.

IT MIGHT. SO IF WE'RE GIVING GRACE TO OTHER APPLICANTS ON THE FIRST TIME, I THINK WE COULD GIVE THEM SOME GRACE AS WELL, WITH THE STIPULATION THAT IT'S, IT'S IT'S GOT TO BE THE GRANT TYPE HAS GOT TO BE CHANGED.

IT'S NOT A PUBLIC ART GRANT. SO, AMY, ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THAT IT CAP AT 3000? YES. I'M I, I MEAN, THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR RIGHT.

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HI, MARYANN. WHERE'VE YOU BEEN? I DON'T KNOW, I DID NOTHING AS USUAL TO CAUSE IT TO HAPPEN.

AND ON MY PICTURE, WHICH ISN'T THERE, THAT DIDN'T WORK, BUT THERE'S ONE AT THE TOP. I AM FINE WITH PAYING THEIR PEOPLE, BUT NOT THEIR STAFF. I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE PERFORMERS.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING THAT. SO IF WE CHANGE IT TO HAVE THE THE MAX THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE. I THINK IT'S FINE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE PAYING THEIR STAFF.

OKAY. ANGELA, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I AGREE THAT IT'S NOT A PUBLIC ART GRANT.

THAT IT SHOULD BE THE SINGLE PROJECT, AND WE GIVE THEM UP TO 3000.

I KNOW THAT THEY DO A LOT OF SHOWS AT THEIR PLACE.

I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF THEM, AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFULLY ATTENDED.

THEY'VE BEEN GOOD AT IT'S BEEN GOOD ONES THAT I'VE GONE TO AND THEY'VE HAD ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT SHOWS BECAUSE THEY'VE NOW BUILT A STAGE AND ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF THERE.

SO I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT NOW.

I DO AGREE WE SHOULDN'T PAY STAFF. THEY SHOULD PAY US STAFF.

ALEX, IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE IN THE POLICY WITH REGARD TO HOW THEY USE THE MONEY IF IT GOES TO THEIR STAFF OR NOT.

LET US LOOK. ELIGIBILITY AND RESTRICTIONS. PROHIBITED USES.

SO THIS RETROACTIVE FUNDING THAT MAY BE THE ONLY PLACE I DON'T SEE. THAT IS. THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE. I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT THEY CAN'T DO THAT.

THEY CAN'T DIDN'T WE JUST ASK, ISN'T IT AN EVENT BUDGET? SO THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO USE OUR MONEY FOR THAT.

IT'S AN OVERALL EVENT. PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE EVENT.

SO. YES, MA'AM. SO THAT MIGHT COME OUT OF THE OTHER 6000, RIGHT? EXACTLY RIGHT. I AGREE. OKAY. I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL DO IT. I RECOMMEND THAT WE. I RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WE APPROVE A SINGLE PROJECT ARTS GRANT FOR $3,000 TO THE KINGSMEN COFFEE, LLC.

MOTION ON THE TABLE. SARAH, YOU SECONDED IT. YES.

WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? OKAY, IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, I WILL TAKE A ROLL CALL.

VOTE. TIM? YES OR NO? YES AND YES OR NO? NO. SARAH.

YES OR NO? YES. MARIANNE. YES OR NO? YES. AMY.

YES OR NO? YES. ANGELA. YES OR NO? YES. I'M A YES TOO.

DOWN TO THE LAST TWO. ALL RIGHT. ALEX, IF YOU COULD READ APPLICANT EIGHT.

OKAY. SUBMITTED BY SARAH YU. FINE ART OF DALLAS, TEXAS.

SINGLE PROJECT SUPPORT GRANT, THE MIDDLE AGENT OVER CLUB.

MY GOAL IS TO MAKE A PORTFOLIO AND SYNOPSIS OF THE STORIES FROM WOMEN.

AFTER READING A CERTAIN AGE, I WANT THEIR STORIES TO BE HEARD THROUGH MY INTERVIEW AND PAINTINGS AS A FIGURATIVE DESCRIPTION.

LOCATION ANY PUBLIC CASUAL OUTING FOR CONVERSATION.

BUDGET REQUEST IS THE REQUESTED AMOUNT IS 1700 AND OH, I ALREADY SAID SINGLE PROJECT SUPPORT GRANT.

OKAY AND SO THE ADDRESS IS DALLAS. THE PERSON'S HOME ADDRESS IS DALLAS.

THE LOCATION FOR THE EVENT FOR FOR THIS PROJECT IS NOT STATED OTHER THAN ANY PUBLIC CASUAL OUTING FOR CONVERSATION IS WHAT IS WRITTEN HERE. SHE DID ATTEND THE INFORMATION SESSION, AND I BELIEVE SHE ALSO SUBMITTED SCREENSHOTS OF HER AMAZON LIST. AND SHE ALSO LET ME GO OVER TO.

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AND SHE SENT OVER SOME EXAMPLES OF HER ART. BUT I WILL PULL UP THE.

FLIER. THAT DID NOT OPEN THE WAY I WANTED IT TO.

ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THE FLIER? YES. OKAY. SO A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON OWNER.

LIKE MR. HAMBY SAID. SHE DID ATTEND OUR OUR PUBLIC DISCUSSION.

SHE FOUND OUT ABOUT WHAT WE WERE DOING. ACTUALLY, COMMISSIONER WYATT SAW HER AT A COFFEE SHOP.

I THINK IT WAS KINGSMAN. SAW HER PAINTING AND RECOMMENDED THAT SHE LEARN ABOUT THE ARTS GRANTS.

AND AS SHE CAME TO OUR PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND JUST SERENDIPITOUSLY I SAW HER SHOWING HER ARTWORK AT SHAYLA.

AND AT THE TIME, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT HER RESIDENCY WITH HER.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. TIM, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PROJECT? I, I THINK IT'S A IT SUPPORTS LOCAL ARTISTS, I THINK. I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S A A HOT FUND ELIGIBLE, BUT.

YES. ANYWAY. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PROJECT? I THOUGHT IT SOUNDED DELIGHTFUL. AND I'D LOVE TO BE ONE OF HER SUBJECTS.

AND SHE SEEMS TO BE INTERESTED IN DOING THINGS IN DUNCANVILLE BASED ON THIS FLIER, SO I JUST REALLY LIKED IT.

SHE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE IS SORT OF AN OLDER POPULATION HERE, AND IT WOULD APPEAL TO WOMEN.

IT WOULD BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. SARAH, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PROJECT? I AGREE WITH WHAT TIM SAID. I THINK IT'S GOOD, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HOT FUNDS ELIGIBLE.

ALEX, CAN YOU LOOK AT HER APPLICATION, AND DID SHE ADDRESS ANY OF THE MARKETING OUTREACH, THAT KIND OF THING.

MY MARKETING PLAN IS TO MAKE A PREVIEW OF MY INTERVIEW PROCESS AND SHARE THE FLIER ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA FOR OTHERS TO JOIN.

THEN I WILL MAKE PRINTS AND T-SHIRTS ADVERTISING MY ARTWORK ONCE I COMPLETE THOSE PORTRAITS.

OKAY.

YES. KEEP GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE VERY END OF THAT.

THERE'S A PARAGRAPH I WANT US TO LOOK AT RIGHT THERE.

THERE, THERE. OKAY. AND, MARY ANN, YOU'RE UP TOO.

SO WHY DON'T YOU READ IT TO US? OKAY. MY NAME'S SARAH, AND I'M MAKING A PROJECT TO INTERVIEW THREE BLACK WOMEN WHO ARE MIDDLE AGED AND OVER ABOUT THE UNIVERSAL LIFE EXPERIENCE OF REACHING MIDDLE AGE.

I WILL CONTRIBUTE MAKING THREE PAINTINGS FOR EACH LADIES, REPRESENTING THE PERSPECTIVE ON LIFE, AND POST TWO PERSONAL STORIES ON MY WEBSITE AS A FORM OF INSPIRATION AND TRANSPARENCY.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, PLEASE MESSAGE ME ON INSTAGRAM OR EMAIL ME.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IF SHE'S NEVER SAID ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT WHO HER CANDIDATES WOULD BE, BUT HERE SHE DOES. I WONDER IF THAT'S IF IF THAT'S A CONFLICT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS THIS GOES TO YOUR MARKETING QUESTION. SHE PROMOTES IN HER APPLICATION HERE THAT SHE, HER INSTAGRAM AND HER INSTAGRAM HAS 164 FOLLOWERS. WHAT DID YOU INTERPRET WHAT THAT MEANS? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN, WHAT THAT MEANS? IT THAT IS.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO GET YOU INTO A PLACE 164 FOLLOWERS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD THRESHOLD FOR BEING ABLE TO MARKET THE CITY VERY FAR.

GOT IT. THANK YOU. MARIANNE. BESIDES THAT, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT? THIS PROJECT? WELL, THE AGAIN, THE THE HOT FUNDS, THE RESIDENCY.

IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. GREAT. HER WORK IS BEAUTIFUL.

AMY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROJECT? I DON'T THINK IT MEETS THE CRITERIA.

I HAVE SOME OTHER SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT IT. ABOUT HER WORDING, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY A REALLY COOL PROJECT AND SHE SEEMED LIKE AN AMAZING ARTIST, BUT I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND REAPPLY.

IT DOESN'T MEET HOT. I DON'T THINK DUNCANVILLE CATERS TO AN OLDER AUDIENCE.

IN FACT, I THINK DUNCANVILLE HAS MADE A COMMITTED MISSION TO TRY TO ATTRACT FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN WITH THE NEW SPLASH PAD AND THAT KIND OF THING.

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DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT CAN'T BE PRESENTED DIFFERENTLY. BUT AS IT'S CURRENTLY PRESENTED, I COULD NOT ENDORSE IT WHETHER OR NOT IT MET HOT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT MEETS HOT. SO. ANGELA. I WASN'T EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT HER HER ARTWORK IS BEAUTIFUL. YEAH, I GUESS SHE JUST DOES AN ART PROJECT, MAGIC.

BUT I KNOW SHE'S DOING THIS. THIS OLDER WOMAN THING.

I DON'T KNOW IT. I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HER BE SUCCESSFUL.

LIKE I SAID, HER ARTWORK IS BEAUTIFUL, BUT I DON'T.

I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO TO REALLY GET TOO EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR GRANT.

OKAY. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? YEAH. TIM.

I AGREE, I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IN, IN WHAT THE ARTS COMMISSION IS TRYING TO DO FOR THE CITY, THE RESIDENTS IN TERMS OF PUBLIC ART THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF A AN EVENT THAT IS HOSTED, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GALLERY THING OR IT'S A, IT'S AN EVENT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

I WONDER IF IF INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS LIKE MYSELF, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, IF I WASN'T ON THE ARTS COMMISSION AND I JUST HAD AN IDEA FOR A PROJECT AND COULD I GET FUNDED? SO THAT I COULD DO A PIECE OF WORK TO PUT IN A GALLERY OR SOMETHING? IS IS THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THE COMMISSION'S GRANT FUNDING IS ALL ABOUT? I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF LOT OF CATEGORIES, A LOT OF WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THE ARTS.

IS THAT AN OUTWARD KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE SUPPORTING, WHEN YOU'RE DOING ARTS FOR THE CITY MURAL MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

YOU KNOW THAT KIND OF PROJECT FUNDING AN INDIVIDUAL ARTIST OR PHOTOGRAPHER THAT IS BUILDING PORTFOLIO OR, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET SOMETHING IN INTO A GALLERY OR A MUSEUM? IS THAT THE SAME? IS THAT THE SAME THING THAT WE, AS AN ART COMMISSION OR THE ART COMMISSION IN GENERAL, SHOULD BE DOING RESIDENCY? I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

SO THE, THE ONLY KNOW. I THINK IT'S A VALID QUESTION.

IT COMES DOWN TO, I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S ON TO A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARTS FUNDERS TALK ABOUT.

BUT THE ONE THE BIG LIMITATION IS THE ONLY MONEY WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO RECOMMEND IS HOT REVENUE AND HOT IS VERY RESTRICTED.

AND SO THERE IS A CONVERSATION, DO WE WANT TO SUPPORT ARTISTS TO CREATE TO MAKE GREAT ART? YES. BUT DO WE HAVE MONEY FOR THAT RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE IF IT'S ONLY HOT, THEN IF YOU REMEMBER THE TEXAS TWO STEP BOOKLET AND, AND AND THINGS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAID TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE RECORD THAT IT'S GOT TO BE JUST COMPLIANT WITH THE PROMOTION OF THE CITY FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF TOURISM.

BUT WHEN THE FUND GETS DIFFERENT KINDS OF MONEY IN IT AND, YOU KNOW, FUTURE ARTS COMMISSIONS CAN CHANGE THAT.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO TOUCH ON TIM'S POINT OR ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

ANYBODY? YOU. YEAH, I RECOMMEND THAT WE I MEAN I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE APPROVAL OF PROPOSED BUDGET FOR $1,700. FOR THE FOR THIS PROJECT. NOW FOR MIDDLE AGED AND OLDER CLUB PROJECT.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. WAS THAT ANGELA? YES. TIM MADE THE MOTION.

ANGELA MADE A SECOND. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? OKAY. I SEE NO HANDS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. I'M GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL.

VOTE. TIM. I HAVE TO VOTE NO AND YES. SARAH. NO! MARIANNE. NO! AMY. NO! ANGELA.

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OKAY. ONE MORE. MR. HAMBY, IF YOU COULD READ APPLICATION NINE FOR THE RECORD I WOULD LIKE TO PREFACE THIS AS.

NOW THIS IS ACTUALLY YOUR FINAL ACT AS THIS BODY.

SO CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. AND I ALSO WANT TO ADD A PREFACE TO THIS APPLICATION.

BRIA MAIDEN IS THE APPLICANT. SHE DID APPLY DURING THE THE VERY FIRST THE INAUGURAL GRANT APPLICATION CYCLE, AND SHE WAS APPROVED FOR HER PROJECT. THAT PROJECT HAS NOT COMPLETED AND SHE HAS NOT TURNED IN HER REPORT YET. I'M NOT TRYING TO CALL HER.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE FACTS. AND SHE IS ALLOWED TO BASED ON THE CRITERIA OF THE POLICY OF APPLYING ONCE PER FISCAL YEAR.

THIS IS A NEW FISCAL YEAR. AND SO THE THIS IS THE FIRST APPLICATION IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

BRIA MAIDEN IS A DUNCANVILLE RESIDENT. THE PROJECT IS A SINGLE PROJECT SUPPORT GRANT.

SUPERFLY WINTER WONDER DANCE. THE SUPERFLY WINTER WONDER DANCE IS THE CULMINATING EVENT OF OUR 12 WEEK DANCE PROGRAM CELEBRATING THE HARD WORK, CREATIVITY, CREATIVITY, AND GROWTH OF OUR STUDENTS.

THIS SHOWCASE WILL FEATURE LIVE PERFORMANCES BY PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS, HIGHLIGHTING THE SKILLS AND ROUTINES THEY HAVE LEARNED THROUGHOUT THE SEASON.

IN ADDITION TO STUDENT PERFORMANCES, THE EVENT WILL SPOTLIGHT LOCAL ARTISTS, CREATING A VIBRANT AND INSPIRING COMMUNITY CELEBRATION OF DANCE, MUSIC AND CULTURE. THE EVENT IS SET TO TAKE PLACE ON FRIDAY, DECEMBER 12TH AT THE DUNCANVILLE AT THE 202 WEST CENTER OR THE DUNCANVILLE COMMUNITY THEATER. LET ME GET INTO BRIEFLY.

THE SUPERFLY WINTER WONDER DANCE WILL CONTRIBUTE TO TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN DUNCANVILLE BY ATTRACTING FAMILIES, FRIENDS AND VISITORS FROM SURROUNDING AREAS TO ATTEND THE EVENT.

THIS INFLUX OF ATTENDEES ENCOURAGES LOCAL SPENDING AT NEARBY RESTAURANTS, SHOPS AND SERVICES, SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES AND STRENGTHENING LOCAL ECONOMY.

ADDITIONALLY, BY HIGHLIGHTING THE CITY AS A HUB FOR YOUTH, ARTS AND CULTURE CULTURAL PROGRAMING, THE SHOWCASE HELPS POSITION DUNCANVILLE AS A DESTINATION FOR COMMUNITY FOCUSED EVENTS AND CREATIVE EXPERIENCES, FEATURING LOCAL ARTISTS ALONGSIDE STUDENT PERFORMERS.

ALSO PROMOTES THE COLLABORATION AND VISIBILITY OF LOCAL TALENT, FURTHER FOSTERING OPPORTUNITIES FOR CULTURAL ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND ECONOMIC GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY. THE REQUESTED AMOUNT. THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET IS $20,000.

THE AMOUNT REQUESTED IS $20,000. A BUDGET WAS SUBMITTED.

I DID NOT ASK FOR PROOF OF RESIDENCY OR A VENDOR PACKET BECAUSE THIS APPLICANT IS ALREADY ON FILE.

OKAY. AND SO IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE POLICY THAT THAT DISCUSSES ELIGIBILITY PRIOR TO AN APPLICANT? A SUCCESSFUL APPLICANT SUBMITTING THEIR REPORT POST EVENT? I THINK IT WAS LIKE 45 DAYS AFTER THE EVENT. SHE HAD 45 DAYS, BUT WE NEVER I DON'T REMEMBER US BEING EVER NOTIFIED WHEN HER EVENT HAPPENED.

WELL, NO. MY QUESTION IS, ARE THEY ELIGIBLE? I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF HER EVENTS HAPPENED YET, BUT IS SHE ELIGIBLE FOR ANOTHER GRANT PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION AND REPORTING OF THE ONE THAT SHE'S ALREADY BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH? THE PROJECT END DATE IS DECEMBER 20TH, 2025, SO SHE WOULD HAVE 45 DAYS AFTER DECEMBER 20TH, 2025. THE POLICY SAYS FAILURE TO REPORT WILL RESULT IN AN IN INELIGIBILITY FOR FOR GRANT CYCLES.

SO THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT THERE IS NOTHING CURRENTLY IN THE POLICY THAT SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T APPLY PRIOR. YOU CAN'T APPLY WITHOUT SENDING IN A REPORT.

OKAY. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS, TIM. WELL, SINCE IT'S A SINGLE GRANT, WE CAN WE CAN GIVE HER UP TO $10,000 IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO NOT 20,000, BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN

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SO I THINK IN THE PAST OH, DID WE GET. I KNOW WE HAVEN'T HAD A REPORT, SO WE DON'T KNOW.

DID WE GET GUESTS FROM OUT OF TOWN? YOU KNOW, THAT THAT STAYED IN OUR HOTELS THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM THIS DANCE RECITAL? WAS IT SUCCESSFUL IN THAT IN THAT SENSE? IN KEEPING WITH THE HOT GUIDELINES? BUT ANYWAY, I GAVE IT ABOUT A MEDIUM KIND OF RATING.

THANKS, TIM. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY GOOD PROJECT, AND I LIKE THE SCHOLARSHIP ASPECT OF IT.

THE BUDGET IS HIGH, AND IT SEEMS LIKE SHE'S COMPLETELY RELIANT ON OUR SUPPORT FOR THIS EVENT, SO I DON'T KNOW. BUT I MEAN, IT IT SOUNDS GOOD.

SARAH. IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD EVENT, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO RECOMMENDING IT WITH $10,000, NOT 20. MARIANNE. WELL, I DO AGREE WITH THAT.

EXCEPT FOR I'M NOT ENTIRELY COMFORTABLE HAVING NOT SEEN A REPORT YET.

AND I KNOW IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT I'D LIKE TO TO SEE SOMETHING ON IN WRITING.

AMY. PICTURES OR SOMETHING? I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS.

I'M SORRY. IT'S MY TURN NOW. YEAH. NO, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY.

AMY. OKAY, SO I HAVE ACTUALLY SEVERAL CONCERNS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT COULD CREATE A LOT OF TOURISM AND INFLUX OF PEOPLE.

IF IT'S ONLY ONE PERFORMANCE, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE AT 202 WEST CENTRAL STREET IN DUNCANVILLE.

I'M A BIT TAKEN ABACK BY THE OR DUNCANVILLE COMMUNITY THEATER AND THEN DOWN UNDER LIST THE INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED IN PLANNING OR EXECUTING THE PROJECT.

ONCE AGAIN, DUNCANVILLE COMMUNITY THEATER IS MENTIONED. I MIGHT I WOULD NEED TO GO ON RECORD AS SAYING, WHILE BRIA IS A LOVELY YOUNG LADY AND HER FATHER HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE THEATER, I HAVE NEVER HAD A SINGLE CONVERSATION WITH HER.

THE THEATER IS NOT FOR RENT. THAT'S IN OUR LEASE WITH THE CITY.

IT GOES TO LIABILITY AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS. PLUS, OUR STAGE IS NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR ANY KIND OF DANCE PERFORMANCE.

IT'S LITTLE BITTY AND IT'S NOT SAFE. IT'S IT'S UNEVEN.

SO I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE APPLICATION ITSELF.

THAT BRINGS AN ELEMENT OF I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO BE UNKIND, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD PUT THAT IN WRITING UNLESS YOU'VE DOTTED YOUR I'S AND CROSS YOUR T'S AND ACTUALLY TALK TO PEOPLE YOU SAY YOU TALK TO.

SO I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THIS. ANGELA. I HAD A CONCERN BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HEARD YAY OR NAY WITH HER FIRST PROJECT. AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE RESULTS OF HER FIRST ONE BEFORE WE START GIVING OUT MORE FUNDS.

I MEAN, THAT'S THAT WAS ONE OF MINE. AND I AGREE, WHEN I SAW THAT WHEN, WHEN IT SAID DUNCANVILLE THEATER, I WAS LIKE OKAY. I THINK AMY KNOWS EVERYBODY'S ANTENNA WENT UP.

YEAH. EVERYBODY'S LIKE AND SO TO ME THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF MISDIRECTION OR, OR OR JUST UNTRUTHFULNESS. I GUESS IT'S HARD TO FIND A NICE WORD TO SAY.

DECEPTION. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO SAY I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT.

MAYBE YOU REFLECT ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE BY COUNCIL DURING THE FIRST APPROVAL SESSION.

SOME OF THE REMARKS THAT WERE MADE IF STAFF WAS GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND FUNDING IT IN FOR $10,000, CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO REPORT.

BUT I'M JUST THROWING SOME THINGS OUT THERE TO CONSIDER.

SO AND THIS IS I THINK THIS FOR ME IS SOMETHING THAT THE PRECEDENCE THAT WE SENT THAT WE THAT WE CREATE AND THIS IS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN TELL I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH WITH PRECEDENCE.

BUT I'M CONCERNED I WOULD I BEFORE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUTURE FUNDING.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW THE FIRST GRANT IS SPENT AND USED AND WHAT THE RESULTS OF THAT WOULD BE.

SO THAT'S MY THINKING ON THAT. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS, TIM?

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YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE END THING FOR A RECITAL.

WHETHER YOU'RE A MUSIC TEACHER OR A DANCE INSTRUCTOR, YOU YOU DO THIS.

SO IF WE IF WE DON'T FUND THIS ONE, SHE CAN APPLY FOR THE NEXT ONE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S THERE'S THERE'S ALWAYS THAT AND AND I, I DO TEND TO FEEL LIKE I WAS LOOKING AT THE BUDGET AND IT'S, IT'S HEFTY, YOU KNOW, THESE NICE ROUNDED FIGURES.

THREE GRAND FOR SNACKS AND BEVERAGES. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOT OF LOT OF CRACKERS.

SO RENTAL OF THE SPACE. I THINK THE 202 IS PART OF THE MAIDEN PROPERTY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. BUT SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A LITTLE EXTRA FAT IN THIS OR NOT.

SO I JUST THINK WE CONSIDER THAT AS, AS WE IF WE DO WANT TO GIVE THEM A GRANT THAT MAYBE WE TEMPER THE AMOUNT.

THAT'S ALL. THANKS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CAN YOU CLARIFY? SHE DID HAVE THE EVENT THAT WE FUNDED THE FIRST TIME.

IS THAT CORRECT? I'M NOT AWARE THAT SHE HAS OR HAS NOT.

ALEX, DO YOU KNOW? I'M SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? SHE WANTS TO KNOW IF IF THE APPLICANT HAS HAD THE THE THE PROJECT THAT HER FIRST PROJECT THAT SHE WAS GRANTED IF IT'S BEEN COMPLETED YET? BASED ON THE THE PROJECT END DATE WAS DECEMBER 20TH OF LAST PREVIOUS PROJECT OF THIS YEAR.

NOW THIS YEAR. RIGHT. SO SHE JUST GOT FUNDED.

MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED YET. IT MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED YET.

THE PROJECT START DATE WAS SEPTEMBER 8TH AND A PROJECT END DATE OF DECEMBER 20TH AT THE OLD RAIL STATION.

SO AT THIS POINT, SHE'S NOT SHE'S NOT OBLIGATED TO REPORT FOR 45 DAYS AFTER DECEMBER 20TH, SO I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. SO IN OTHER WORDS SHE'S APPLYING EARLY FOR NEXT YEAR.

IS THAT RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS YEAR, THIS APPLICATION IS FOR THIS IS FOR THE SHOWCASE.

IT ALMOST WAS THE PREVIOUS GRANT FOR THE CLASSES.

AND THEN THIS GRANT REQUEST IS FOR THE SHOWCASE ON ONE SPECIFIC DATE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. AND IF SO, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND APPROVING MORE MONEY FOR THE BASICALLY THE SAME EVENT.

WAS SHE THE ONE THAT PUT IN TWO APPLICATIONS BEFORE? ONE WAS FOR THE CLASS, ONE WAS FOR THE PERFORMANCE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS? OKAY. THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION FROM.

SORRY, I'VE LOST HER NAME. WHERE IS IT? BRIA MAIDEN.

THANK. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO, IS THERE A SECOND? CAN WE BE MORE SPECIFIC ON THE AMOUNT? YES. FOR THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED AMOUNT OF OF $10,000. SO DO YOU WANT TO PUT IN THE DO YOU WANT TO PUT IN THE MOTION? THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY SUPER STUDIO WINTER WONDER DANCE.

YES. I'M SORRY, I WENT TOO FAST. I WANT IT TO BE FAST.

I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT, DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN. YES.

I WOULD LIKE. I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A $10,000 GRANT TO SUPERFLY WINTER WONDER DANCE.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MARYANN. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'M GOING TO. I HAVE A QUESTION. DID WE HAVE A PROJECT DATE FOR THIS? THE 12TH DECEMBER, 12TH OF THIS YEAR? OH, OKAY.

I'M NOT SEEING IT. OKAY. I'LL TAKE THE WORD DECEMBER 12TH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OH, THERE IT IS. OKAY. MY BAD.

OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THANKS, TIM. GOOD QUESTION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, THEN I'LL DO A ROLL CALL.

VOTE. TIM. NO. AND. I GUESS. YES.

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OKAY. I'M A NO ON THAT, TOO. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE LAST ONE.

IS THAT CORRECT, ALEX? THAT IS THIS GROUPS AS THEY AS IT IS NOW LAST.

YEAH. CONGRATULATIONS. IT'S JUST SO SAD. WE GET TO TAKE A PICTURE.

LET ME GET MY PHONE OUT FOR A SECOND. SCREENSHOT OF THE ZOOM OF THE MEETING.

THE TEAMS MEETING. DO A SCREENSHOT. OH. SCREEN.

OH, WAIT, THERE GOES ALEX. OKAY. HOLD ON. MARY ANN, MARIANNE. WHERE ARE YOU, MARY? I AM WORKING ON IT. IT NEVER WORKS. IT PROBABLY DOES.

IT'S JUST YOU, MARIANNE. HAHA. HAHA. NO THANKS.

I DIDN'T WANT TO. SOMEBODY MAKE A SCREENSHOT.

I HAVE THINGS NOW. WHO'S DOING A SCREENSHOT? I GET A PICTURE.

I DON'T. I DID ONE, BUT I'M LITTLE IN IT. I'M WEIRD, BUT THAT'S NORMAL.

ALEX, DID YOU GET A SCREENSHOT FOR US? ALEX HAS A NOTE UP ON HIS.

I GOT ONE. OKAY. ALRIGHT, WELL, IT IS 731 AND I'M ADJOURNING THE VERY LAST MEETING OF THIS COMMITTEE.

IT'S 830. SORRY, I'M IN A DIFFERENT TIME ZONE.

YOU ARE AN 832. 832. AND I'M ADJOURNING THE VERY LAST.

RUB IT IN. WELL DONE EVERYBODY. LOVE TO ALL. LOVE TO ALL.

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