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[*This meeting was joined in progress*]

[WORK SESSION / BRIEFING]

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HERE IN DUNCANVILLE HAS ALLOWED US TO GROW THROUGHOUT THE BILL AT 8 A.M. AT THREE O'CLOCK IS KIDS AND SPLASH PAN GRAND OPENING. 8 P.M. IS MUSIC IN THE PARK AND THE MOVIES. TOP GUN.

APRIL. THE SEVENTH IS. DARK IN THE PARK. IT'S REALLY 24 SOLAR ECLIPSE THAT ARMSTRONG PARK.

APRIL THE EIGHTH AT 12 P.M. IS ALSO THE DARK IN THE PARK. 2024 SOLAR INCLUDES FESTIVAL. APRIL 9TH IS THE BUDGET WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. APRIL. 16TH IS A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. APRIL 20TH 11 A.M. DUNCANVILLE. 300 JUNIOR GRAND PRIX. 12 IS KEITH DANVILLE BEAUTIFUL GARDEN LUNCHEON AT LAKESIDE PARK. APRIL 22ND IS THE FIRST DAY OF EARLY VOTING. ABLE 27TH IS CONCERT IN THE PARK. AND APRIL 30TH IS THE LAST DAY OF EARLY VOTING. MAY 2ND IS NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER.

AT THE RECREATE 12 O'CLOCK AT THE RECREATION CENTER. MAY 4TH IS ELECTION DAY. AND AT 8 A.M.

IS KEITH DUNCANVILLE BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY CLEANUP. MAY 7TH IS CITY COUNCIL MEETING. MAY 11TH IS MOVIES IN THE PARK. MAY 13TH IS POLICE MEMORIAL CEREMONY. MAY 18TH IS CONCERT IN THE PARK. MAY 19 TO THE 21ST IS THE INTERNATIONAL COUNCIL OF SHOPPING CENTERS CONFERENCE IN LAS VEGAS. IN APRIL, 21ST. MAY 21ST IS CITY COUNCIL MEETING. MAY 25TH FROM 9 TO 1 IS A FIRE TRUCK. SO MAY. 27TH IS THE MEMORIAL DAY HOLIDAY AND ALSO THE MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY AT MEMORIAL PARK. OH, UH, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE MUNICIPAL ELECTION BEING MADE THE FOURTH CANVASSING OF THE BOATS, USUALLY BY THE TIME WE GET IT BACK FROM THE COUNTY HAVING THE OFFICIAL COUNT , IT USUALLY TAKES ANOTHER 3 TO 4 SOMETIMES 5 TO 6 DAYS BEFORE WE KNOW SO SOMETIMES BETWEEN THE FOURTH. I REALLY DOUBT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FOR THE SEVENTH CITY COUNCIL. SO PROBABLY. I'M GUESSING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE FOURTH AND MAYBE THE 11TH AND 14TH. IT WILL BE CALLED IN FOR CANVASSING THE VOTES AND IT ONLY TAKES THREE OF US TO DO THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE FULL COUNSEL. SO JUST WANNA MARK THAT IN YOUR CALENDARS AND AN FY. I THAT'S A QUICK QUESTION NOT TO GET OFF THE CALENDAR. EXACTLY BUT ON THE DARK IN THE PARK. IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE THE CITY IS GONNA BE PROVIDING, UH SOME TYPE OF EYE PROTECTION TO THE PEOPLE THAT DISMISS. MR J, OK, UH, WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND EVENT AT HARRINGTON PARK FOR THEIR 5TH AND 6TH GRADERS. WE'RE PROVIDING THE GLASSES FOR THE SIXTH GRADERS. I THINK THE ROTARY CLUB IS RIGHT. THE GRADE. OK, VERY GOOD. YEAH, BUT THE QUESTION IF YOU HAD ON MY CALENDAR DECIDED TO GET ON. FEBRUARY, 20. OBVIOUSLY NOT DOING THAT. NO, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. LEAVE IS THAT YEAH, WE HAVE YEAH. AND I'LL LET HER KNOW. ALL RIGHT. IS MY TIME. THE. THE, UH, APRIL 9TH BUDGET WORKSHOP IS THE ONE THAT WE WANNA DO. ON THE CAPITAL. I HAD PUT IT AS THE 26 A R CALENDARS. WE THAT'S THE NIGHT OF THE DISTRICT THREE. I BELIEVE. SO IT'S APRIL, THE NINTH. ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE. OK UH, SO YOUR MANAGER, DO YOU? WE HAVE A BRIEFING ON INTERGOVERNMENTAL. SO, UM. AS AS I'VE BEEN GETTING IN THE COMMUNITY AND TALKING WITH BUSINESSES AND IN THE COMMUNITY, ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE COMPONENTS OR CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD IS RELATIVE TO PERMITTING. UM AND THIS IS NOTHING NEW TO I KNOW, UH, PERMITTING PROCESS AND IT'S NOTHING NEW TO ANY OF YOU. UM, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT I'M FINDING IS THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE TO REVIEW PROJECTS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ISSUE PERMITS AND SPECIFICALLY, THE UH, INTER GOV PROGRAM. UH, THE CITY PURCHASED THAT PROGRAM IN 2019. UM, AND IT HAS NEVER GONE LIVE. UH, WE'VE CONTINUED TO

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SPEND MONEY WITH PIES. UM FOR THE TYLER TECHNOLOGIES SIDE OF THAT IMPLEMENTATION. UM BUT IT HAS NEVER GONE LIVE SINCE 2019. THE CURRENT PROGRAM THAT IS USED WILL BE, UH, SUNSETTING THE END OF THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE WE EITHER HAVE TO BUT WITHIN HER GOLF OR ANOTHER PROGRAM, AND WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED SO MUCH IN IT. IT'S YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION WAS, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO PUSH IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE AT THIS POINT? UM SO I REACHED OUT TO, UH, KEVIN PRICE THAT I KNOW FROM BARRY DUNG. HE'S ON THE SCREEN BACK HERE. UH, BARRY DUNN HAS WORKED WITH THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE BEFORE. UM VERY DUNN IS DONE A LOT OF WORK ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH INTER GOV IMPLEMENTATION. THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE IS THE COSTS THAT HAVE BEEN PAID TODAY, WHICH IT'S A BIG NUMBER. THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE HAS INVESTED SINCE 2019 $508,953 AND THE INTER GOV PROGRAM, UH WITH, UH ESTIMATED. THANK YOU, JENNIFER FOR PROVIDING THE NUMBER. UM BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL LICENSING THE SUPPORT THE TYLER TECHNOLOGY STAFF, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DONE IN 2019 AND 20. MONEY. UM AND THEN EACH YEAR WE'VE PAID JUST UNDER $50,000 IN LICENSING FEES, BUT IT'S NEVER GONE LIVE. IT'S NEVER BEEN USED.

UM SO I REACHED OUT BECAUSE WE IT. IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE WITH THE EXISTING STAFF TO GET IT FULLY LIVE AT THIS POINT WITHOUT HAVING SOME SORT OF PROJECT MANAGEMENT. AND UH, THAT'S WHY I REACHED OUT TO KEVIN PRICE. WHO'S WITH US, AND I'VE ASKED HIM TO JUST KIND OF PROVIDE A AN OVERVIEW ALSO, AND, UH, KEVIN, IF YOU WANNA KIND OF JUMP IN, BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE OF WHERE WE'RE AT. I KNOW YOU'VE REALLY INVESTIGATED WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENTLY. AND IF YOU CAN SHARE WITH COUNSEL WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO GET TO YES. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. UH, IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU. KEVIN PRICE, OUR PRINCIPAL WITH BARRY DUNN. UM AND AS MENTIONED, UM YOU KNOW, OUR TEAM HAS WORKED ON A NUMBER OF GOV IMPLEMENTATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UH, WORKED WITH ACTUALLY OVER 16 DIFFERENT IMPLEMENTATIONS AT THIS POINT, MOST RECENTLY TAKING LAWRENCE, KANSAS LIVE EARLIER THIS MONTH ON ON GOV. AND WERE KIND OF IN THE FINAL COASTLINE PHASES WITH WITH THEM. SO UM, OUR OUR INVOLVEMENT IN THESE PROJECTS, UM, CAN REALLY TAKE KIND OF ONE OR TWO LEVELS OF SUPPORT. UM, OFTEN WE ARE ASKED TO BE THE PROJECT MANAGER ON BEHALF OF OUR SO IN THAT ROLE, UM WE'RE ACTING AS THE PROJECT MANAGER THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION. AND THEN WE, UM, KIND OF AFTER GO LIVE AND UM , WOULD STEP BACK AND THEN IT WOULD BE THE CITY, UM LED KIND OF ON AN ONGOING BASIS. ANOTHER LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT THAT WE COMMONLY PROVIDE IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS OVERSIGHT, WHICH IS MORE OF AN ADVISORY ROLE. WHERE THERE'S A CITY PROJECT MANAGER.

WE'RE HELPING THE CERTAIN ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. UM THINGS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, VENDOR COMPLIANCE FOR COMPLIANCE REVIEW TESTING TRAINING OVERSIGHT, SOME OF THE CRITICAL ITEMS AROUND MAKING SURE THE CITY IS READY TO GO LIVE AND SO IN THAT OVERSIGHT OR WE'D BE INVOLVED, UM UM, HEAVILY AND IN KEY ACTIVITIES, BUT REALLY SUPPORTING THE PROJECT MANAGER, UM, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF CITY THAT'S DIFFERENT. HAPPY TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL. UH, MR FINCH IS FEEL FREE. BUT AND IF I IF I JUST COULD, SO I ASKED KEVIN TO PROVIDE US WITH, UH, BOTH OF THOSE PROPOSALS, WITH VERY YOUNG BEING THE PROJECT MANAGER COMING IN AND DO EVERYTHING FROM A TO Z FOR US, AS WELL AS THE ADVISOR AND THEY PROVIDED THAT THE ADVISORY ROLE, I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY SOFTWARE PROJECTS AND CAPITAL PROJECTS. THAT IF WE HIRE BARRY DUNN TO COME IN AND BE THE PROJECT MANAGER AND JUST FINISH IT FOR US WHEN THEY'RE DONE, THAT KNOWLEDGE, WALKS OUT THE DOOR WITH THEM. IF WE HIRE A PROJECT MANAGER ON STAFF UM THEN THEY CAN PROVIDE THE SUPPORT AND THEN WE RETAIN THAT KNOWLEDGE. PLUS, I CAN ALSO SHARE WITH YOU. WE'VE HAD MEETINGS THIS WEEK WITH THE, UH, BEST SOUTHWEST REGIONAL COMMUNICATIONS CENTER. UH AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO THROUGH A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL UPGRADE THERE. THAT'S A $6.4 MILLION PROJECT. THERE'S GOING TO BE PROJECT SUPPORT THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED FOR THAT WITH THE SOTO AS WELL AS CAN BE AND CEDAR HILL. WE'VE GOT ANY NUMBER OF SOFTWARE. PROGRAMS THAT NEED SUPPORT, UH, RECORDS MANAGEMENT, AS WELL AS OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND. I BELIEVE IN MY CONVERSATION WITH HUMAN RESOURCES, AND WITH IT, WE COULD HIRE A PROJECT MANAGER. PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $100,000 A YEAR, GIVE OR TAKE. BUT RETAIN THAT PERSON WHO WOULD BE HERE TO SUPPORT US WITH ALL OF OUR PROJECTS INSTEAD OF AGAIN THAT KNOWLEDGE GOING OUT THE DOOR SO THE PROPOSALS DO YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH THEM THE GO THE 30,000 FT NUMBER FOR THE TWO PROPOSALS. YEP UM, SO WE HAVE PROPOSED THAT OUR OUR GENERAL APPROACH HERE IS THAT YOU KNOW, KIND OF A TIME MATERIALS, UM, HAS OCCURRED. SO IF IT'S NOT NEEDED, UM WE NEVER NEVER BE INVOICE, BUT I'M ON THE FULL

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TIME PROJECT MANAGEMENT. UM, WE ESTIMATE ABOUT 100 AND 20 HOURS A MONTH OVER ABOUT A SIX MONTH TIMELINE, PLUS TWO MONTHS OF POST V SUPPORT, SO THAT WOULD, UM OVER AN EIGHT MONTH TIMELINE.

UM ESTIMATED 960 HOURS. UM SO THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $225,000. THE OVERSIGHT WILL BE ABOUT HALF THAT. EFFORT SORT OF STILL EIGHT MONTHS ABOUT 60 HOURS A MONTH. 480 HOURS, UM, FOR AN ESTIMATE OF 100 AND $12,000 SO KIND OF THE FULL TIME 120 HOURS A MONTH, UM, HALFTIME TAKING CARE OF THE OVERSIGHT ADVISORY OF 60 HOURS A MONTH AND THOSE LEVELS ARE BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE WITH ER GOV, BUT ALSO, UM, THE TEAM THAT IS OVERSEEING THAT HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CITY IN TERMS OF REENGAGING WITH TYLER. WE'VE RECENTLY WORKED WITH THAT STATE IMPLEMENTATION DIRECTOR AND THAT TEAM AND HAVE EXPERIENCE. UM WITH THAT SPECIFIC GROUP WITHIN TYLER, UM, THAT MADE IT HIS IMPLEMENTATIONS, UM, IN THIS REGION. COUNTRY UM AND NOTABLY THAT THE LAWRENCE KANSAS IS THE APPOINTMENT THAT SOME SIMILAR TEAM MEMBERS. SO UH UM, SOME FAMILIARITY WITH THE TEAM THAT'S RE ENGAGING WITH THE CITY ON THE TYLER SIDE AS WELL. SO THE TOTAL COST IS REALLY ABOUT 225,000.

WHICHEVER WAY WE DO IT ESSENTIALLY. IF WE HIRE THEM OR IF WE HIRE A PROJECT MANAGER IN HOUSE, AT LEAST FOR THIS FIRST YEAR, AND THEN THAT PROJECT MANAGER COULD GO ON THEM.

PROJECTS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, 508 IT'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT. SO IT'S QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS. PROGRAM. QUESTION. UH, IN CASES LIKE THESE WITH INDIVIDUALS OR CORPORATIONS SUCH AS MARY MENTIONED THE POSSIBILITY. FOR US TO CONSIDER HIRING A PROJECT MANAGER ROUGHLY 100,000 A YEAR. BUT THESE TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS ARE ALSO EMPLOYED BY LIKE MARY DUNN. AND THAT INDIVIDUAL COULD BE CONTRACTED FOR TO SIT HERE. AS A LET'S SAY, A PERMANENT RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF DR MILL IN TERMS OF PROJECT MANAGE AS WELL. DOES THAT COST BEEN COUNTERED WITH THE ACTUAL HIRING. OF AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE ON BOARD FOR 100,000 AND THIS 100,000. FULLY LOADED OR IS THAT JUST THE SALARY EXCLUSIVE OF BENEFITS? GREAT QUESTIONS AND SO IN MY CONVERSATIONS I MEAN, FROM A RANGE, YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING 80 TO 120. A SALARY RANGE RIGHT AND THE BENEFITS BUT IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET SOMEBODY, MAYBE YOUNGER, ENERGETIC AND YOU KNOW, UH, IT DOESN'T LOWER THE PRICE.

YOU KNOW YOU YOU COULD BE 100 100 REPORT. BUT AGAIN WE HAVEN'T EVEN ADVERTISED. THE OTHER THING I WOULD TELL YOU IS I'VE MET WITH THE CITY MANAGERS OF CEDAR HILL, LANCASTER AND DESOTO. ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE PROJECT MANAGERS ON STAFF. AND THEY DO IT EXACTLY. I GUESS THE CONCEPT THAT I'M PRESENTING TO YOU THAT THE PROJECT MANAGER WOULD BE STAFFED IN HOUSE AND THEN CONTINUE ON FROM ONE PROJECT TO THE NEXT CONTINUOUSLY OVERSEEING AND HELP THEM PROVIDE. OF THOSE PROJECTS. SO, YES, I MEAN, WE COULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE VERY D DO IT OR OR EVEN CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY BUT AGAIN. WE KEEP THAT PERSON AND KEEP PAYING THAT COST , YOU KNOW, O ON AND OFF, AND THAT'S THE ROI. I GUESS. IN TERMS OF ON BOARD FOR HAVING THEM ON STAFF VERSUS T. OH, TO BE A CONSULTANT ON BOARD. FOR FULL TIME. JURORS OH, WHO? WHO, IN YOUR OPINION RIGHT NOW? WHO WOULD BE, UH, CONTRACT MANAGER BE WORKING UNDER IN THE CITY. IF WE BROUGHT SOMEBODY IN IF WE WERE TO HIRE AN EMPLOYEE I, I DON'T KNOW. WE ACTUALLY HAD THAT CONVERSATION. HR WAS REACHING OUT TO THE OTHER THREE MUNICIPALITIES FOR ME TODAY TO SEE WHERE THAT WOULD BE. UM IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE IT. IT WOULD PROBABLY WHETHER IT'S ADMINISTRATION OR POSSIBLY PUBLIC WORKS, BUT IT'S STILL TO BE FIGURED OUT. PROJECT SHOULD BE ACROSS. CORRECT A LOT THE CREW OF COVER PRODUCTS. WE HAVE NOT JUST IT PROJECTS. BUT EVERY PROJECT WE HAVE WORKING FOR THE CITY CORRECT. WELL, LET ME START BY SAYING THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL FOR THE TRANSPARENCY AND SOCIETY. BECAUSE I DID ASK HOW MUCH ARE WE LOOKING AT AS A TOTAL OF NOW? BECAUSE IN DECEMBER 5TH WE HAD THIS AS AN ITEM TO OUR APP. SPECIFICALLY AS FOR YOUR TIME HERE, WOULD WE NEED ANY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES? AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS NO AND I DON'T THINK SO. NOW. DOING TO YOUR RESEARCH AND LOOKING INTO IT. UM YOU DISCOVER THE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT WE NEED. 508,000 IS A LOT THAT WE HAVE SPENT. NOT HAD ANYTHING TO SHOW FOR. AND WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT 800 NEARLY 800. $1000. I AGREE.

WE NEED A PROJECT MANAGER. YES. UM TO KEEP THE KNOWLEDGE IN HOUSE. THAT IT IS CONCERNING FOR

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ME. THAT WE'VE HAD SOMETHING SINCE 2019. AND I KNOW THIS BEFORE YOU AND YOU HAVEN'T UH, WAS NOT ON YOU OR WHATEVER. 580,000. THAT'S JUST A LOT. TAKING IN AT THE MOMENT. IF I COULD JUST FEEDBACK ON SOMETHING FOR SAYING THAT THE OTHER THING IS, I WANNA BE VERY TRANSPARENT.

EVEN HIGHER IN A PROJECT MANAGER . LET'S SAY WE BRING IN A PROJECT MANAGER AND BRING IN BARRY DUNN, THE GUY AT THE PROJECT MANAGER. THEY'RE STILL THE PROJECT MANAGER IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE WORKING WITH STAFF. GOING TO HAVE TO BE MORE WORKING WITH OUR PRIMARY FOLKS GOING TO HAVE TO BE WORKING WITH OUR BUILDING OFFICIALS. NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, RIGHT, SO THERE'S STILL GONNA BE TIME. THAT IS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM, ACTUALLY GOING OUT AND DOING THEIR JOB THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ABSORB THE SAME FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW SOFTWARE WITH THE REGIONAL SOUTHWEST COMMUNICATIONS CENTER, RIGHT. THERE'S ACTUALLY FIRE POLICE AND EVERYBODY ELSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE INPUTTING THAT AND SO THERE'S HIDDEN COSTS THERE. I JUST WANNA BE VERY AS CLEAR AS I CAN BE ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE. BUT THERE'S NO UNKNOWN. MISS MAC BURNETT THERE, MISS CONTRERAS. AND THEN AGAIN, THANK YOU. ONE OF ONE OF MY CONCERNS. AND MAYBE MR PRICE FENCES MAYBE CAN ANSWER. I'M I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE, OK, WE'RE UH, WE'RE ALREADY AND END OF MARCH. CLOSE TO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIRING SOMEBODY. THIS IS A EMERGENCY TYPE OF PROCESS BECAUSE I I'M JUST TIMELINE IT OUT, AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE THIS THING GOES YES. YEAH. SO. YEAH SO THE PLAN WOULD BE, UM, AGAIN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT. BRINGING IT TO YOU ON MARCH 5TH AS LONG AS YOU'RE GENERALLY WANNA SEE IT. UM AND KEVIN HAS ALREADY TOLD ME I'VE GOTTA FIND PROJECT MANAGER ON STAFF QUICK.

AND UH, BECAUSE I'M ALSO SAYING TO HIM I NEED THIS IMPLEMENTED IN SIX MONTHS. AND SO IT'S ALMOST THAT WE HAVE TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. OUR CURRENT PROGRAM SOCIAL DECEMBER. IF IT WOULD BE OK. I CAN ADD NOT TO. UM FURTHER CONFUSED TWO OPTIONS, BUT WE HAVE ALSO AT PAST SITUATIONS WHERE WE STARTED OFF IN THAT PROJECT MANAGER ROLE.

WELL A HIRING PROCESS OCCURRED AND THEN TRANSITIONED BACK TO THAT ADVISORY ROLE. WHETHER THERE HAVE BEEN TIMELINE CRUNCHES SO THAT THAT COULD ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, KNOWING THE KIND OF END OF YEAR SUNSET OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM AND YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE HIRING TIMELINES CAN LOOK LIKE, UM, THAT COULD ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD COULD EXPLORE FURTHER ON IF THERE WAS INTEREST. YEAH. UM WELL, FIRST, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU THAT THAT OPTION RIGHT THERE DOES THAT. SET YOUR MIND AT EASE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE COULD DO THAT.

WELL, I. I STILL I STILL NEED TO SEE IT HAPPEN. IT'S A BIG NEW BROTHER. WELL I. I LIKE THE IDEA . I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD GOOD OPTION SINCE WE'RE RIGHT IN BETWEEN, UM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN ANSWER THIS. NOT BUT I'M GONNA ASK YOU WHAT WHAT IS THE, UH FOR THE DUTIES OF RESPONSIBILITIES. AND WHAT BACKGROUND ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR A PROJECT MANAGER IF FOR HIRE SOMEBODY IT'S JUST A QUESTION. I'M GONNA THROW OUT THERE. BUT WE DON'T NEED TO ANSWER THAT TONIGHT. UNLESS YOU HAVE A SHORT ANSWER. WELL, THERE THERE ARE CERTIFICATIONS FOR PROJECT MANAGE. AND UH, JOB DESCRIPTIONS HAVE BEEN HR WAS ABLE TO GET THOSE TODAY AND PROVIDE THAT TO ME. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD BRING BACK AS PART OF SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WILL WE BE SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED BY THE SUNSET OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM? BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A PART OF IMPLEMENTATION. I THINK WE ALL HAVE AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU HAVE TO WORK OUT CAN GET IT IMPLEMENTED. TRY IT OUT AND THEN WORK. THE ISSUES NOW. DO YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING IN TIME OF THE SUNSET? I. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE, AND THAT'S WHERE BRINGING IN SOMEBODY LIKE BARRY DUNN, WHO HAS THE EXPERIENCE IN KEVIN HAS DONE THIS AND HAVE THAT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE AN EXPERT FROM THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX. THEY CAN PROVIDE SUPPORT DIRECTLY TO US, RIGHT? I WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IF WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS LOOKING AT THIS FROM AN ER P PERSPECTIVE. OUR TRACK RECORD DOING THAT IS NOT SUCCESSFUL.

WE'VE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST. THAT'S LIKELY WHY WE SPENT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS AND GOT NOWHERE WITH THAT. FOR INTERNAL ISSUES. GOING TO BE OH, SO IT'S. WE HAD TO. YEAH IT'S IT. IT'S AN IMMEDIATE C, AND IT'S MANDATORY. I THINK, MR CITY MANAGER THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR

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ATTENTION. AND BEING ABLE TO BY ON THE FIRM THAT YOU HAVE DEALT WITH IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF THEIR CREDIBILITY AND TRACK RECORD. AND KNOWING THAT WE HAVE THE P 25 COMING UP ON. THIS BEST CENTER. IT. IT'S ALMOST SOMETHING. QUESTION IT, BUT WE KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE ON THE RISE AND WE HAVE TO APPROVE. AT SOME POINT SO YOU'RE BRINGING FORWARD TO THIS FOR APPROVAL? MARCH. EVERYBODY. MEAN? IT'S LIKE A COMFORTABLE UNCOMFORTABLE BEGINNING TO KNOW WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THIS. WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS, AND WE APPRECIATE BEING BRIEF NOW. KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP ON MARCH 5TH. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING TO ASK. OK, MR PRICE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OK UH, WE HAVE FINISHED THE BRIEFING WORK SESSION. TOPICS WE'VE GOT, LIKE 17 MINUTES TO GO BEFORE. COUNCIL WE HAVE THREE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS. MR CITY ATTORNEY CAN WE DO THAT? DO WE START? WHAT'S YOUR BEST OPTIONS ON IT? MIGHT TAKE A. LET ME READ

[Executive Session (Part 1 of 2)]

ONE OR TWO INTO THE RECORD, AND THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND DO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. ITEM NUMBER ONE CITY COUNCILS COMMUTED. S. 5 51.0 72, THANKS TO YOU. SALES EXCHANGE OF ACQUISITION NEGOTIATIONS FOR A PROPERTY. GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF ICE POINT EAST OF SANTA FE WEST CARPENTER ROAD. WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF DUCK. I REMEMBER CITY COUNCIL CHECKING PROTECTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO 550. 0 72 T CODE AS WE RATE THE SALE EXCHANGE LEASER VALUE. DON'T HOUSE PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51.0 71 FIXED ON A CODE TO SEE IF THE ADVICE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING THE SAME CITY SECRETARY, WE ARE RECESSING 644. THANK YOU.

[CALL TO ORDER]

ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FORBEARANCE COMING IN JUST A LITTLE BIT LATE. WE HAD SOME EXECUTIVE SESSION TO GO THROUGH. SO, WITH THAT, UH, CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER. I GOT IT. THE TIME STAMP CALLING ME TO ORDER AT 707 CITY SECRETARY. OK? AH, LET'S SEE. DO WE HAVE AN INVOCATION? CITY SECRETARY? WE DO NOT. UH OH, YES, CHAPLAIN RUIZ. YES, PLEASE RISE. POLICE CHAPLAIN RUIZ THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. LET'S PRAY FELLOW.

GOD, WE JUST COME BEFORE YOU TODAY, LORD AND I PRAY FOR THE COUNCIL. LORD I PRAY FOR THIS COMMUNITY. LORD, WE PRAY FOR WISDOM. WE JUST PRAY FOR PROTECTION LORD FOR OUR FIRE, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR POLICE OFFICERS, LORD AND WE PRAY BLESSINGS OVER THEIR LIVES IN JESUS NAME. I PRAY AMEN. DID YOU WANT ME PLEDGES TO OUR FLAG? THROUGH THE FLAG. OF THE UNITED STATES OF UH, WHICH IS ONE NATION UNDER GOD. I THINK JUSTICE. UH, THAT. COUPLE OF NOTES OF HOUSEKEEPING. UH MISTER VERA CRUZ WILL BE ABSENT TONIGHT. FROM DISTRICT ONE. AND WE WERE ABLE TO COVER IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE COMING IN HERE. ITEMS AND EXECUTIVE SESSIONS NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, SO WE STILL HAVE ITEM NUMBER THREE ON EXECUTIVE SESSION TO COVER. WE WILL DO THAT AT THE VERY END OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. MOVING ON TO? I

[1.A. Mayor's Report.]

DON'T KNOW. ONE OF THE REPORTS, UH, FOR THE MAYOR'S REPORT. I HAVE JUST ONE ITEM. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT VERY QUICKLY AND THAT IS KUDOS. TO OUR RECREATION CENTER IN THE ENTIRE STAFF OVER THERE FOR A WONDERFUL EVENING OF DADDY DAUGHTER DANCE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO JUST WANDER OVER AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WAS GOING OVER THERE, BUT IT WAS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY. UH, TO SEE THE DADDY WITH THEIR DAUGHTERS, AND IT WAS JUST I DON'T KNOW. IT'S VERY HEARTWARMING TO SEE THE DADDIES IN OUR CITY, BRINGING OUT THEIR DAUGHTERS AND THEIR KIDS TO HAVE A GREAT TIME. SO I WANTED TO THANK UH NO GARCIA AND MR MARK STEPHENSON AND DIRECTOR OF PARKS RECREATION. UH AND I DON'T KNOW IF TYLER WAS INVOLVED IN THAT OR NOT. PROBABLY NOT. BUT UH, THE RECREATION CENTER DID A WONDERFUL JOB DECORATING AND

[1.B. Councilmembers' Reports]

TAKING CARE OF THE DADDY DAUGHTER DOWN, SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT ANY OTHER, UH,

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CITY COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS. UH, MISTER KOONTZ. YES. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT ON NEXT WEEK. MONDAY FEBRUARY 26 AT 6 P.M. UH, WE'RE HAVING. UH, IT WAS PRIMARILY WAS FOR, UH, OUR DISTRICT. BUT YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO INVITE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME THAT WE'RE HAVING A MEETING WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT ON CRIME AND CRIME PREVENTION. AND SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, UH, YOU CAN ATTEND AGAIN. THAT'S MONDAY, FEBRUARY 26 AT 6 P.M. AND IT'S GONNA BE IN THE LIBRARY. THE MEETING ROOM AS SOON AS YOU WALK INTO THE LIBRARY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. UH, MISTER MC BURNETT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY, 7TH. WE HAD A DISTRICT TWO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND I WANNA SAY IT WAS WELL ATTENDED AND ALSO, UH JUST GOOD CONVERSATION. I WANNA THANK YOU, UH, MR FINCH FOR BEING THERE AS WELL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS. SEEING NONE. OKAY, UH, I'M A PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT? DON SAID. I WANNA THANK UH MR FINCH FOR COMING OUT ON SATURDAY, AND ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT THERE AND FROZE WITH US IS WHO WE, UH, WERE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO THE DISTRICT AND TO THE, UH, THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT TOO. SO OUR COMMUNITY IN GENERAL YEAH, THANK YOU. UH, I HAVE TO DIGRESS FOR A MOMENT CITY MANAGER OF THIS I DID NOT HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT AH, MISS CHERRY BROWN NEEDED TO SPEAK. AND THINGS ARE NOT WORKING WELL UP HERE SO MAYBE COULD LOOK A LITTLE OH, MAINTENANCE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. I'LL LOOK FOR HANDS ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, REPORTS RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY MOVING ON, UH, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT? UH, YES. MAYOR

[1.C. City Manager's Report.]

COUNCIL. THANK YOU. JUST BRIEFLY . UM, COMING UP ON MARCH 16TH. WE HAVE A DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL MEETING AND I BELIEVE ON MARCH 26TH. WE HAVE THE DISTRICT THREE AT ARMSTRONG PARK. UH, ALSO SUPER EXCITED JUST TO REMIND THAT, UH, THE COMMUNITY COMING UP ON APRIL THE SIXTH IS OUR KIDS AND SPLASH PLAT SPLASH PAD GRAND OPENING, AND, UH, ON APRIL , THE SEVENTH. UH, I KNOW THE COUNCIL WAS BRIEFED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THIS EVENING. UH, WE INTEND TO HAVE THE EMERALD CITY BAND AT ARMSTRONG PARK AT 845 FOR A SOLAR ECLIPSE PARTY. SO THAT'S APRIL, THE SEVENTH 45 THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO, UH, WE SKIPPED ITEM NUMBER

[3. CITIZENS' INPUT]

TWO. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROCLAMATIONS PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE CITIZENS INPUT AND IN PERSON CITIZEN COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD DURING THE REGULAR SESSION, KEEPING WITH CITY COUNCIL RULES OR PROCEDURES ADOPTED OCTOBER OF 18 OF 2022 ELECTRONIC MAIL COMMENTS WILL NO LONGER BE READ ALOUD IN PAPER COPIES IF PROVIDED, IF SENT TO US WILL BE PROVIDED TO ALL CITY COUNCIL MADE PART OF THE RECORD OF THE MINUTES. PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51.007 OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL CONCERNING IN A MATTER OF PUBLIC BUSINESS OR ANY POSTED AGENDA ITEM. HOWEVER, THE ACT PROHIBITS THE CITY COUNCIL FROM DELIVERING AND IT IS NOT ON THE PUBLIC AGENDA, AND SUCH NON AGENDA ISSUES MAY BE REFERRED TO CITY STAFF FOR RESEARCH IN THE FUTURE ACTION. ALL PERSON IS ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL ARE ADOPTING BY THE ADOPTED RULES, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK. AND PLEASE, WHEN YOU COME FORWARD WHEN I CALL YOU GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SO I WILL CALL FORWARD INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE SUBMITTED CARDS TO SPEAK IN THE ORDER THAT I HAVE RECEIVED THEM. FIRST INDIVIDUALS, MARK GRAHAM.

MARK GRAHAM 410 SANTA FE TRAIL. UM I WANT TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF DUMPING AT THE LAD. WE ONCE AGAIN HAVING PEOPLE COME DOWN AND DUMP ON THE PROPERTY. I KNOW Y'ALL PUT UP SIGNS DOWN ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. I BELIEVE I. I DON'T KNOW THAT HE UP AND GOES ON DOWN THERE, BUT WE GET IT ON THE BACKSIDE. THE NORTH SIDE. FREQUENTLY AND THIS WEEK I PICKED UP FIVE BAGS. SOMEONE CAME DOWN AND DUMP TRASH RIGHT NOW THERE'S TWO DUMPS. UH SOMEONE CUT DOWN A TREE JUST BROUGHT IT DOWN THERE AND DUMPED IT AND IN THE PROCESS CAUSE THERE'S NO SIGN SAYING VEHICLES NOT ALLOWED IN THIS AREA. THEY DROVE DOWN THERE AND LEFT. MUD TRACKS EVERYWHERE. WE'RE SEVEN MONTHS INTO THIS SEVEN MONTHS. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET A LITTLE PROGRESS ON SOMETHING LIKE SIGNS? IT DOES NOT SEEM TO ME THAT THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT THE MASTER PLAN IN ANY FORM OR FASHION. IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO DISRUPT ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR PERHAPS. MAKING PEOPLE THINK BEFORE THEY JUST GO DOWN THERE AND DO THERE'S NOTHING SAYING THAT'S A NATURE

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PRESERVE NOTHING. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT EITHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JUSTIN EDWARDS.

THANK YOU, MR MAYOR. I THAT'S WHEN I FIRST THAT'S WHEN I COME AND SAY THANK YOU TO. UH UH, MR HAGER AND YOU AND YOU AS A STATE COUNCIL FOR YOUR PAS FOR YOUR LISTENING SKILLS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, UH, BOTH ON THE LAB PROPERTY AND ON THE UPCOMING UH, POTENTIAL ON IT. I JUST WEDNESDAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND FOR BEING , UH, JUST AN ADVOCATE FOR ALL SIDES OF PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THEIR ENVIRONMENT WHO CARE ABOUT THE BE SEE AND SO JUST WENT AND SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE AND OF THE PEOPLE, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YES, SIR. I'M SORRY. I MEANT TO SAY YEAH. UM MY NAME IS JUST TERESA EDWARDS.

I LIVE AT 226 BOZELL STREET. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. ROBBIE ROBBINS.

HI. MY NAME IS ROBBIE ROBBINS, 343 SHOREWOOD DRIVE. I WANTED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE, UM THE, UH. NATIVE LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED, UM, AS YOU MAY KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN A SHARP DECLINE IN OUR MONARCHS THIS YEAR. IT'S ALL OVER THE NEWS, UM, BEING ABLE TO PLANT NATIVE PLANTS THAT CAN SUSTAIN NOT ONLY THE LARVAL STAGES BUT ALSO OUR MONARCHS AS THEY'RE NAVIGATING TO MEXICO DURING THEIR UH, MIGRATION WOULD GREATLY IMPACT UH, THAT SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AY, JACKSON. AMY JACKSON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DUNCANVILLE COMMUNITY THEATER, 934 CAMBRIDGE DRIVE IN DUNCANVILLE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER LAST FALL. I ALONG WITH OTHER DC T FANS CAME BEFORE YOU REQUESTING A NEW LONG TERM LEASE, ALLOWING DC T TO REMAIN AT 106 SOUTH MAIN, THE ONLY PERFORMANCE HOME WE HAVE EVER KNOWN AND WHILE IT TOOK A BIT TO IRON OUT THE DETAILS, ALONG WITH THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS THROWN IN IN THE MIX ON JANUARY, 9TH YOU UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THAT VERY THING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENTHUSIASTIC CONFIDENCE IN THE QUALITY OF OUR ART, YOUR UNIQUE UNDERSTANDING OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF DC T ON OUR COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE KEEN AWARENESS OF THE POSITIVE QUALITY OF LIFE. DC T HAS FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS. ORIGINALLY BUILT IN 1964 AS A COUNCIL IN COURT BUILDING. WITH CITY HALL NEXT DOOR. THIS BUILDING HAS NOW SERVED AS A COMMUNITY THEATER FOR OVER 35 YEARS. YOUR TREASURED VOTE NOW ENSURES THAT A THRIVING COMMUNITY THEATER WILL REMAIN ON MAIN STREET FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. OFFERING A POSITIVE AND INCLUSIVE SPACE FOR ARTISTS TO PERFORM AND AUDIENCES TO ENJOY. AS I SAID IN OCTOBER, SO MUCH HAS CHANGED ABOUT THAT LOCATION OVER THE YEARS, BUT WE'RE STILL THERE. WE THE DANVILLE COMMUNITY THEATER BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE MEMBERSHIP OUR ARTISTS, OUR VOLUNTEERS, AND OUR PATRONS ARE IMMENSELY GRATEFUL THAT YOU HAVE EXTENDED OUR STAY AGAIN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. JIM JONES. HELLO JIM JONES, 1627 KNOB HILL CIRCLE. EXCUSE ME, AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE NATIVE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE.

UM IT'S CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE. IT'S VERY FORWARD THINKING. UM, IS CERTAINLY GIVES ONE OF YOUR COMMISSIONS A NICE WIN THAT ADDS COLOR TO THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. WILL PROBABLY END UP SAVING SOME FOLKS SOME MONEY ON ON, UH, PLANTING AND ON THEIR WATER, AND IT JUST SIMPLY MAKES I HOPE YOU SUPPORT IT. SECOND UM, REGARDING THE CHARLES F LADD NATURE PRESERVE THE, UH DUNCANVILLE NATURE CONSERVANCY, A 501 C THREE. WOULD LIKE TO SEND THE EXTENDED INVITATION TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS OF DUNCANVILLE TO THE FIRST LAD FEST ON APRIL 30TH AT THE HOPKINS SENIOR CENTER. THAT EVENING, AND WE WILL, UH, BE HAVING A VARIETY OF SPEAKERS.

UM, WHO WILL TELL YOU? WHY THEY ARE THERE. WHAT THE LAD MEANS TO THEM AND WHAT THEY HOPE LAD DOES FOR THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE. WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST SPEAKER. WE WILL HAVE PARKS AND WILDLIFE THERE. MASTER NATURALISTS EXECUTIVES FROM FROM BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA VILLAGE

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TECH. UM WE WILL HAVE OUR CITY MANAGER THERE AND THEN WE WILL END WITH THE BLACK LAND PRAIRIE.

UH, RAPTOR CENTER, HAVING TWO OR THREE FALCONS, HAWKS AND OWLS DOING A DEMONSTRATION. ALONG WITH THAT WE WILL ALSO HAVE, UH, CHARITY AUCTIONS. SO WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. APRIL 30TH. THANK YOU. ALI ASI. I SAID THAT CORRECTLY. MY NAME IS ALI ASI. THE ADDRESS IS 1703 SOUTH MAIN IN DUNCANVILLE. I'M HERE. TO SEE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT THE 1703 SOUTH MEN. FOR THE PARKING LOT, GRANT. JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN MOVED FROM CONSENT TO INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. WE WILL BE TAKING THAT UP HERE IN THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS LATER THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. ERICA BROWNING. GOOD EVENING, ERICA BROWNING 442 EAST CHERRY STREET. I HAVE A LITTLE POTPOURRI OF ITEMS TONIGHT. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR QUESTIONS THAT THEY ASK WHENEVER WE HAVE A BRIEFING, OR WE HAVE UH, ITEMS UP FOR A VOTE. I'M JUST REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT EVERYONE IS ASKING THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UM I'VE BEEN WATCHING ONLINE LATELY, AND THE CAMERA DOES NOT ALWAYS PICK UP THE VOTE, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS VOTING IN WHICH WAY AND I'VE BROUGHT THAT UP VIA EMAIL AND, UM AT THE LAST MEETING, IT WAS STILL AN ISSUE, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. UM I ALSO WANT TO PUT MY VOTE IN FOR THE, UM THE NATIVE LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE . I DO, UH, THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE THINGS IN PLACE, WHICH I HAVE SEEN IN THE PLAN, UM, TO MAKE SURE PROPERTY VALUES RETAIN THEIR VALUE, AND IT DOESN'T START LOOKING TRASHY. UM AND THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP IS SOMETHING THAT'S FAIRLY RECENT, ALTHOUGH WE'VE HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT IN THE PAST, AND THAT IS A TV S RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE STREET. UM THERE'S ONE THAT IS BLUE THAT LIKES TO POP WHEELIES AS HE WALKS RUNS DOWN THE STREET WHILE KIDS ARE COMING HOME FROM SCHOOL, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DANGEROUS. UM, THERE'S A LITTLE ORANGE ONE.

THAT'S NEW TODAY THAT, UM, THE LA THE GIRL THAT RIDES IT IS OBVIOUSLY UNDER AGE AND HAS A LITTLE WHY RIDING WITH HER? AND NOT ONLY DO THEY JUST GO UP AND DOWN THE STREET, MAKING NOISE AND BEING DANGEROUS, BUT THEY LIKE TO TURN AROUND IN MY NEIGHBOR'S YARD AND THEIR ELDERLY, AND THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT, AND I HAVE CALLED THE POLICE AND I HAVE SENT IN THINGS THROUGH THE CCL FIX, AND I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE AWARE OF IT BECAUSE IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. A OF BROOKSTONE. A PRESENT. YEAH, SHE DID INDICATE THAT SHE SUPPORTED ITEM FIVE. B DID NOT WANT TO SPEAK. SO IS THIS INDIVIDUAL HERE OR NOT? YOU ARE. HAVE IT AS SUPPORTING THE FIVE B. THANK YOU OK? THAT CONCLUDES OUR CITIZEN COMMENTS AND FOR INFORMATION, UH, CITY COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED SOME CITIZEN COMMENTS BY EMAIL.

AND EACH OF US HAS A HAS A RECORD OF THAT. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. THE OH, LET'S

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

SEE. YES, I DID TALK ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSIONS OR DELAYING NUMBER THREE AND MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR CONSENT AGENDA CITY. WE HAVE MOVED. ITEM NUMBER FOUR D. TWO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. IT NOW BECOMES ITEM FIVE C. AND SO CITY SECRETARY WHEN YOU READ THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, PLEASE MAKE NOTE OF NOT TO MENTION ITEM FOUR. THE CITY SECRETARY, PLEASE READ THE CONSENT ITEMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ITEM FOUR. A CONSIDER THE MENACE FROM THE FEBRUARY 6 2024 CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING ITEM FOUR. B CONSIDER A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE SECOND AMENDED JOINT CHAPTER 11 PLAN OF REORGANIZATION OF INDO INTERNATIONAL PLC AND ITS AFFILIATED DEBTORS AND PROXY FOR VOTING ON SCHEME OF ARRANGEMENT OF INDO INTERNATIONAL PLC AND

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AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO CAST A BALLOT ACCEPTING THE PLAN AND APPOINTING THE CHAIRPERSON AS SPECIAL PROXY TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE SCHEME AT THE RELT SCHEME MEETING AND ANY ADJOURNMENT THEREOF AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ITEM FOUR. C CONSIDER A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT AND DEPOSIT AWARDED FEDERAL AND STATE ASSET FOR FORFEITURE FUNDS. THANK YOU.

CITY SECRETARY CHAIR 10 A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND. WE HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE BY MR CONTRERAS, THE SECOND BY MR MAC BURNETT CO PLEASE VOTE. YOU KNOW, I'M APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU. ITEM FIVE. A I MENTIONED THAT WE ONLY WERE BRIEFED, UH, HAD TIME TO TAKE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS NUMBER ONE AND TWO. WE STILL HAVE NUMBER THREE TO DO SO. ITEM FIVE. A WE'RE DELAYED PENDING COMPLETION OF ITEM NUMBER THREE ON EXECUTIVE SESSION. MOVING ON

[5.B. Consider an Ordinance of the City of Duncanville, Texas, adopting Chapter IV A Native Landscape Ordinance.]

TO ITEM FIVE. B CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DUNCANVILLE, TEXAS, ADOPTING CHAPTER FOUR. A NATIVE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE AND TURNING THE FLOOR OVER TO MISTER TO A MR. AFTERNOON UH, CITY COUNCIL MAYOR, CITY MANAGER. TYLER, A G, UH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR PARKS AND RECREATION AND KEEP D OF A BEAUTIFUL STAFF LIAISON. UM TONIGHT, UH, JUST WANTED TO BRING FORTH UM THE, UH ORDINANCE . UM, THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD ON WITH THE K DB BOARD. UM AND YOUR SALES? UM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ATTENDING OUR MEETING LAST NIGHT TO, UM, FINALIZE ANY, UH, CHANGES WE NEEDED TO MAKE TO GET THIS MOVING ALONG. UM BRIEFLY. I'M GONNA GO OVER THE, UH, CHANGES WE DISCUSSED LAST NIGHT. THAT SHOULD BE. UH UH, SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO YOU TODAY IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET. UM SO THE GOAL OF THIS, UH, ORDINANCE IS TO PROMOTE B BIODIVERSITY, SUPPORT NATIVE SPECIES AND ENHANCE COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH. UM, THROUGHOUT THE WE HAVE AMENDED THE RESIDENTIAL, UM TO RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

UM SO THAT'S IN ALL ZONED AREAS AS LONG AS THEY APPLY. UM ALL GRAMMATICAL ERRORS HAVE BEEN AMENDED. UM AND SECTION 1267. UM NOW READS THE SCHEMATIC PLAN OF A NATIVE LAND OF NATIVE LANDSCAPE MATERIAL PERMITTED IN THIS ORDINANCE AND NOT BEING ENCROACHED. SO NOT ENCROACH CITY OWNED RIGHT OF WAYS OR UTILITY EASEMENTS ON UNIMPROVED SURFACE OF ANY LOT. AND SECTION 1268.

THE PURPOSE, UH, AMENDED VERBIAGE AND WE'VE REMOVED THE LIST OF INVASIVE BC. UM, THIS WILL BE ADDED TO THE PERMIT APPLICATION, UM, THAT EACH CITIZEN WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT AND APPLY, SO THEY'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WHEN THEY RECEIVE IT IN SECTION 1269. WE'VE AMENDED THE VERBS TO INCLUDE SPACING OF 5 FT TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. UM IN SECTION A. AND IN SECTION B.

WE'VE ADDED, UH, BASED ON THE CITY'S APPROVED SCHEMATIC, UH, PLANS, UM SECTION 1270. UM SUBSECTION 83. IT'S BEEN AMENDED TO PERENNIALS AND ORNAMENTAL GRASSES MUST BE CUT. UH, ANNUALLY BETWEEN DECEMBER 15TH AND FEBRUARY 15TH OR, UH, WENT ABOVE GROUND. GRIP VEGETATION HAS DIED. UM. AND AS MENTIONED ANY OTHER, UH AMENDMENTS FOR GRAMMATICAL ERRORS HAVE BEEN AMENDED. SO THE $250 SPELLING WAS WAS ALREADY FIXED. SO UM. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER UPDATES OR CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED? UM, BEFORE APPROVAL, UH, UH, JUST FOR INFORMATION FOR THE CITIZENS AT THE JOINT MEETING OF THE REAL BEAUTIFUL BOARD LAST NIGHT AND WITH THE CITY COUNCIL THE CHANGES THAT MR DEY JUST WENT THROUGH WERE DISCUSSED IN DEPTH. BY BOTH SIDES AND THOSE CHANGES WERE MADE AND APPROVED BY THE D. KEEP THAT BEAUTIFUL BOARD AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE TONIGHT IN TERMS OF WHAT MR A G HAS GONE THROUGH, SO I AM VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT THAT DISCUSSION YESTERDAY WAS FRUITFUL. IN TERMS OF BRINGING TO FRUITION. WHAT WE BELIEVE THIS ORDINANCE IS SUPPOSED TO BE READING AS TONIGHT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THE WHAT'S BRINGING FORTH TONIGHT AND WHAT MR DESCRIBED AS CHANGES THAT WERE CONCLUDED LAST NIGHT ARE NOW EFFECTIVE. FROM WHAT WE SEE IN FRONT OF US. TONIGHT IS A RED LINE. THANK YOU. UH, SO LET'S SEE ANY. UH, LET'S SEE, MISTER, OK? OK? ALL RIGHT. I SEE. JUST GOOD. I SEE. THE MINES ON TOO OK, GOOD AND KSM. BURNETT. YES,

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE GOT TO GET THIS FIXED FOR YOU, UH, UM, SECTION 1271 FEE.

ARE WE CONSIDERING, UM THE PERMIT FEE. FOR UM, I BELIEVE, UH, AS DISCUSSED LAST NIGHT. YOU ALL WOULD. UH UM GIVE THE CITY MANAGER UH, JURISDICTION TO AMEND OUR FEES. CITY FEES. UH, THE FEE SCHEDULE. UM AND THAT'S HOW WE WOULD GET A SET FEE. UM I BELIEVE WE MENTIONED $25. BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN SET IN STONE YET. SO OK, SO ARE WE GIVING THIS. MR HAGER CO SETS THE FEE SO WE'LL BRING BACK IF YOU PASS THIS, WE'LL BRING BACK A FEE RESOLUTION AMENDMENT. TO INCORPORATE THE DISCUSSION LAST NIGHT WAS THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT PROPOSAL AND THEN THE FEE SCHEDULE HAS TO BE CHANGED. FEE SCHEDULE SHOULD BE CHANGED AT A LATER DATE RATHER THAN BEING THAT TONIGHT. SO, YES, YOU ARE CORRECT. WE DID DISCUSS THAT LAST NIGHT. YES AND $25 IS WHAT WE DECIDED. SO I WANTED TO GET THAT PUBLICLY STATED SO $25. EVEN THOUGH IT WAS STATED YESTERDAY PUBLIC. THANK YOU. UM MISTER MC BURNETT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST I'M LOOKING. I'M LOOKING TO SAY MR MC BURDETTE. THANK YOU. I I'M JUST GONNA MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. YEAH I HAVE. I HAVE A QUESTION THERE. THIS IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT. YOU CANNOT DELEGATE TO THE KEY. DUNCAN BILL BEAUTIFUL BOARD THE PLANT LIST. THEY CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT HAS TO BE ADOPTED BY THE CITY MANAGER. YOU CAN'T DELEGATE TO THE INDEPENDENT THIRD BODY.

THEIR ADVISORY BOARD. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY D. IT'S JUST ILLEGAL ISSUE. WE'RE WE'RE WHERE'S THE LANGUAGE IN WHICH YOU 68 SAY AGAIN. THE WAY IT'S PROPOSED. IT SAYS THE KEY COEL BEAUTIFUL OR KEEP DUNCANVILLE BEAUTIFUL BOARD. HAS THE APPROVED LIST. THEY CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT THAT APPROVED LIST HAS TO BE ADOPTED BY THE CITY MANAGER OF THE CITY COUNCIL, NOT AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY CANNOT DELEGATE THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO A THIRD PARTY. I. I WANNA. IT'S JUST A LEGAL REQUIREMENT. SO IF THEY MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, THEN THE MANAGER IS AUTHORIZED TO ADOPT IT. THEREFORE I MAKE MY MOST APPROVED. I'M GONNA SECOND OUT WHAT THE AND TAKING OUT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID. RIGHT YOU WANT AND LET'S BE CLEAR IF YOU GOT SOMETHING TO SAY, PLEASE SAY IT SO THAT I'M NOT ACCUSED OF CHANGING THE ORDINANCE. TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT. SO WE'RE ACCEPT. WE UNDERSTAND MR MC BURNETT AMENDING HIS MOTION TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE OR INCLUDE THE INTENT OF THE LANGUAGE TO DELETE KEEP DUNK. A BEAUTIFUL FROM ME. RECOMMENDATION MANAGER WILL ADOPT THE APPROVED PLANT LIST. RECOMMENDATION. WAS IT OK? AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR WITH THAT THAT, UM UNTIL WE ACTUALLY ASSIGN A FEE IF WE'RE GOING TO SIGN A FEE IF THIS GOES INTO EFFECT TOMORROW. WE CAN'T CHARGE A FEE. WELL, WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST NIGHT WAS WE APPROVED THE ORDINANCE. THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION IS AT A LATER DATE. OK? SO IF THE CITY MANAGER WILL DECIDE THE TRUE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT, WE APPROVE THE CITY MANAGER WITH THIS ORDINANCE BEING APPROVED TONIGHT , HIM TAKING THE STAFF THE TIMING OF WHEN IT ACTUALLY GOES INTO EFFECT FOR IMPLEMENTATION, AND THAT WOULD BE THE CHARGING OF THE FEES RECEIVING OF THE CHEMA AND SO FORTH. OKAY. DO WE KNOW HOW LONG UH, WHEN, WHEN WE COULD EXPECT TO HAVE THIS ON AN AGENDA. SO THE PLAN WOULD BE FOR THE MARCH 5TH MEETING THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE THE FEE, UH, BACK ON YOUR AGENDA FOR YOU TO ADOPT AT THE MARCH 5TH. IN THE MEANTIME, WE COULD GO AHEAD AND START ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS AND WORKING WITH THE APPLICANTS, AND THAT WAY THERE'S NO HOLD UP. I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE IF I CAN GET A FREE RIDE ON THIS. NO. UM I THINK. I DON'T SEE. UH, OKAY, RIGHT. THE VISIBILITY ON THESE LIGHTS IS MAYOR I. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. WHY WHY YOU'RE LOOKING OVER THERE WHEN? WHEN THE HE DUNCAN MILL BEAUTIFUL BOARD DISCUSSED. THE APPROVED PLANT LIST. IS THAT MEAN THERE'S NO LONGER AN INVASIVE PLANT LIST, SO IF IT'S NOT AN APPROVED PLANT, THEN YOU CAN'T PLANT IT. IS THAT? WHAT THE UNDERSTANDING? I WASN'T AT THE MEETING, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE WE'VE STRUCK THE INVASIVE PLANTS. SO THAT MEANS TO ME THAT

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YOU CAN ONLY PLANT WHAT'S ON THE GOOD LIST. IF IT'S NOT ON THE GOOD LIST, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT.

AND OF COURSE, WE CAN AMEND THE ORDINANCE WE NEED TO LATER. THE DISCUSSION LAST NIGHT. THIS CORRECTLY AND THE DISCUSSION LAST NIGHT WAS THAT INCLUDING THE LIST OF INVASIVE PLANTS AND NOT INCLUDING THE LIST OF WHAT THE GOOD PLANTS ARE TO BE CONFUSING TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT TO HAVE THE LANDSCAPE. AS LONG AS IT'S NOT INVASIVE, YOU CAN HAVE IT, BUT THIS WAY IT'S GOT TO BE ON THE APPROVED LIST THAT'S RECOMMENDED FROM THEM. AND IF IT'S NOT ON THE APPROVED LIST, YOU CAN'T PLAN IT, AND THE INVASIVE LIST IS AVAILABLE TO SEND A CITIZEN THAT WANTS IT. WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT LIST AVAILABLE. THE DECIDED TO DELETE THAT LANGUAGE FROM THE NEGATIVE, RIGHT. GOT IT CORRECT. OK, SO. HELP ME OUT IN TERMS OF THE LIGHTING HERE, MR KONZ, IS YOUR LIGHT ON NO. OK? SO. ARE YOU? ARE YOU REFERRING TO SECTION 1268? BECAUSE YES, WE JUST HAD A MOTION WITH AN AMENDMENT ON SECTION 168 AND YES. YES, THAT'S THE SECTION.

I'M REFERRING TO MINE DOESN'T HAVE AN INC OR AN APPROVED PLANT LIST. HERE IT IS. YOU. NATIVE PLANT SHALL BE LIMITED TO THOSE USE OF PLANT MATERIALS THAT ARE APPROVED DURING THE APPLICATION PROCESS TO FIND THE LIST OF APPROVED PLANS. PLEASE CONTACT. IT SHOULD SAY WE'LL BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY MANAGER, A DESIGNEE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE KEEP COEL BEAUTIFUL BOARD. SO THAT MEANS IF IT'S NOT ON THE APPROVAL, I'M LOOKING AT WHAT WAS AT YOUR PLACE. HERE IF I'M GONNA GIVE YOU WHAT I HAVE. WE'RE NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN, MR PRINCE. BECAUSE THAT. YOUR PLAN MUST INCLUDE PLANTS. THAT ARE APPROVED. ENDED BY THE KEITH DUNCANVILLE BEAUTIFUL BOARD, BUT ADDING TO THE CITY MANAGER'S DESIGNEE. DELEGATE GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS. BUT THAT'S GONE ON.

YOU CAN HAVE YOUR YOUR PAPER BACK, SIR. OH, IT'S OK. I JUST WANT I. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHAT YOU WHAT YOU WERE READING WAS SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME. SO I WAS ASKING ABOUT BECAUSE IT WAS AT MY PLACE. I ASSUMED IT WAS AT YOURS. FAIR ENOUGH. AS A MATTER OF FACT. ONE YOU DO? OH, WELL, YOU YOU YOU HAD SOME NOTES ON YOURS THAT WEREN'T ON MINE. SO THOSE ARE HANDWRIT NOTES, SO I WASN'T SURE OK? SO THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS CORRECTED HAS AMENDED MR MAC BURNETT'S MOTION TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE THAT WE JUST HEARD TO MAKE IT A LEGAL ORDINANCE AND WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE K DB AND THE LIST OF THE FRUIT PLANTS, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND MAYOR. I'M NOT DONE WITH MY COMMENTS, SO OH, I'M SORRY.

YEAH. UH, SO I. I DID WANT TO UM, SO YOU KNOW THE GOAL OF THIS PROMOTE BIODIVERSITY SUPPORT NATIVE SPECIES, NOT JUST PLANTS, BUT ALSO ANIMALS. AND IT CA ENHANCED COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND ALSO BEAUTIFICATION. AND SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS ACCOMPLISHES THAT AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK UH, MISTER, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK AND ALSO WANNA THANK MR REESE AND THE K DB BOARD BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK. AND I KNOW REESE HAS BEEN BACK AND FORTH ON THIS FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS. AND SO, I. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS AND ALL THE EVERYONE WHO'S OFFERED INPUT THE CITIZENS. UH, MASTER NATURALISTS. UM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK, BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S BEEN WORTH IT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WITH THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AS AMENDED BY MR MC BURNETT, A SECOND BY MR CONTRERAS CO PLEASE VOTE. UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED OF MISTER VERACRUZ ABSENT THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[4.D. Consider a resolution authorizing approval of incentive grants by the Duncanville Community & Economic Development Corporation (DCEDC) to 1703 Main Realty, LLC, in an amount not to exceed $209,500.00 for a building located at 1703 S Main Street, Duncanville, Texas, 75137]

ALRIGHT THAT TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE C, WHICH WAS ITEM NUMBER FOUR D. ITEM FIVE. C IS NOW CONSIDER RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPROVAL OF INCENTIVE GRANTS BY THE DUNCANVILLE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION . PERENS D CE DC TO 1703 MAIN REALTY LLC IN AN AMOUNT. WHERE DO THEY GO? GOOD EVENING COUNCIL . WAIT A MINUTE. I LOST JEREMIAH

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. I LOST THE LAST PAGE TO AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $209,500 FOR A BUILDING LOCATED AT 1703 SOUTH MAIN STREET, TALKING ABOUT TEXAS 7517137. JEREMIAH F IS YOURS. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. JEREMIAH BREWER, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR. UM THIS IS A.

INCENTIVE APPLICATION FOR THE 1703 SOUTH MAIN STREET. UM THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE ENGINEERING LANDSCAPING, PAVING A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, MISTER BREWER. I'M I'M SORRY. I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A HARD TIME HEARING YOU. CAN YOU PULL THE MIC CLOSER OR SOME? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. UM THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE. YEAH. THE OH, EXCUSE ME.

PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE ENGINEERING LANDSCAPING, PAVING. DUMP, STRING CLOSURE, PAINT, PLUMBING, MAINTENANCE AND MAINTENANCE TO THE FUEL CANOPY. IN REGARDS TO THE COMMENTS, PREVIEWS MADE AT THE AND THAT THE COUNCIL HAD MADE AT THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

WE HAVE ADDED THE LANGUAGE DIRECTLY TO THE RESOLUTION FOR THE SPECIFIC AMOUNTS FOR THE PAYMENTS OR FOR THE INCENTIVE GRANTS. AS YOU CAN SEE, UM 15,000 UM, FOR LANDSCAPING. 100 AND 28,000 FOR, UH, 128,500 FOR, UH, CONCRETE PAVING. 37,000 FOR STORM DRAIN SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN 29,000 FOR A DUMPSTER. DUMPSTER BLOCK WALL ENCLOSURE. AND, UM ALSO IN TERMS WITH THE ALSO. THE LANGUAGE ALSO ADDED TO THE RESOLUTION WHERE THE THIS. THE PAYMENT OF THE INCENTIVE GRANTS IS CONTINGENT ON THE SUBMISSION OF A. OF A BONA FIDE LEASE AGREEMENT FROM A NATIONAL OR REGIONAL RESTAURANT TO OPERATE IN THE IMPROVED PROPERTY. AND WE DO IN THIS PACKET HAVE INCLUDE IN THIS PACKET. WE HAVE INCLUDED THE, UH ALSO ON THE. PRESENTATION THE SITE MAP THAT HAD WENT TO PNZ THAT WAS APPROVED. AND IT DOES, UH, IF YOU LOOK A T, THE DETAILS IT DOES, UH, DETAIL IN EIGHT. 1800 SQUARE FEET FOR THE RESTAURANT. AS WHO WAS ALSO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR THE ZONING CHANGE. AND THEN JUST THE OTHER DETAILS TO REFRESH FROM THE PREVIOUS, UH, PRESENTATION. THE BEATS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET. 810,000 FOR TLR. UM, FOR ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO A PREVIOUSLY LISTED, UM SO DEVELOPMENT 878,000. AND THEN, UH, MA DESIGN $845,000. THE CURRENT DECA APPRAISED VALUE IS 608,560 AND THEN, UM THE REST OF THE IMPACT EVALUATION. DETAILS. THE. CURRENT ESTIMATED PROPERTY TAX. 740. OR $25.59, AND THEN WE GET THE NUMBER FOR THE ESTIMATED YEARLY SALES TAX FROM THE 4230 SQUARE FEET RETAIL AND RESTAURANT. HAD A 200 SALES PER SQUARE FEET. UH FOR $846,000 AND THEN CITY SALES TAX REVENUE OF $16,920. UM AND THEN UH, IN THE. THE OWNERS ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT. OR YOU CAN. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU A RE YOU CONCLUDING OR CONTINUING? NOT SURE WHERE YOU'RE A MISTER BURRO. SORRY. UH, THEN YOU'RE THE PICTURES OF THE RENDERINGS THAT I THINK YOU HAD SEEN THEM PREVIOUSLY OF, UH CONCEPT. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MISTER CONTRERAS. AND THEN MR. UH, THANK THANK YOU. UM . FIRST A REMINDER, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD THE NUMBER IN TERMS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE CURRENT RESTAURANT SPACE. NOW THAT WE SEE IT 1800 SQUARE FEET. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN YOU FIND A LOT OF, UH REGIONAL OR NATIONAL CHAINS. UM SOMETHING WE

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NEED TO, UM. THINK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT SO WE DON'T HAMSTRING THE OWNERS FROM GETTING, UH, A VIABLE RESTAURANT IN THERE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT.

THAT WOULD, UH, LIMIT THE NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES. THEY HAVE TO FILL THIS SPACE THAT THAT'S PRETTY SMALL SPACE. JUST WANNA REMIND YOU THAT, UH, SECOND THING AND. LET ME KNOW IF THIS QUESTION NEEDS TO BE ASKED AT ANOTHER POINT, BUT, UM, I BROUGHT THIS UP AT THE LAST MEETING. AND I WANNA, UH, RESTATE IT ONE MORE TIME. WE'RE D CDC IS, UH, OFFERING GRANT MONEY IN IN THE AMOUNT OF ABOUT 25% OF THE TOTAL PROJECTED COST THAT THE OWNERS ARE GOING TO INVEST IN THIS AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE CAN DO THIS CONTRACTUALLY. ATTORNEY WILL TELL ME BUT I STILL FEEL THAT WE'RE WE'RE GIVEN 25. BUT THERE'S NO INCENTIVE OR. WAY OF CONFIRMING THAT THE OWNER WILL IN FACT. PROVIDE THE REMAINING 75% OF THE PROJECTED IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT PROPERTY. MAKES ME NERVOUS, NOT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THESE GENTLEMEN. BUT ANY TIME THAT WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY'S NOT OBLIGATED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. WE GO AHEAD AND PAY OUR 25% PORTION THAT AMOUNT OF WORK GETS DONE. THERE'S NOTHING TO SAY THE REST OF THE WORK HAS TO BE DONE SO YOU COULD END UP SEEING SOMETHING FAR LESS.

ATTRACTIVE THAN WHAT WE SEE IN THIS ARTIST'S RENDERING. SO I JUST WANT TO CAUTION THE COUNCIL THAT THAT'S UH A BLANK IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT I'M I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH. OK, MAYOR JU JUST FOR A POINT OF VIEW. IF YOU WANT IT IN THERE, I'LL PUT IT IN THERE THAT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM THAT THEY IN ORDER TO QUALIFY TO RECEIVE THE MONEY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THEY SPENT X NUMBER OF DOLLARS ON THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY. OK, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'LL WAIT TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL ON THAT ISSUE. YEAH. UH, MISTER KOONTZ. THAT THAT IS SOMETHING I. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME MORE INFORMATION ON AS WELL. BUT I, UH M. MAYBE ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MISTER BREWER. BUT THEN MAYBE, UH, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANTS HERE THIS EVENING. I KNOW THEY WEREN'T HERE LAST TIME, SO I CERTAINLY WOULD. I MAY HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO FOR THE APPLICANTS. UM AND MY QUESTIONS REALLY HAD TO DO MORE WITH JUST THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRANTS. AND SO UM. AND I, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I ASKED LAST TIME THAT REALLY DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER TO BUT FOR EXA MPLES THAT THE SALES TAX GRANT UM YOU KNOW HOW HOW THESE NUMBERS WERE CALCULATED. UM AND IT. IT LOOKS LIKE UH, SO I YEAH, I, I GUESS. FIRST OF ALL, IF I COULD JUST KIND OF GET AN EXPLANATION OF, YOU KNOW THE SALES TAX GRANT AND AGAIN HOW THOSE NUMBERS ARE CALCULATED AND YOU KNOW HOW WE CALCULATE OUR OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT ON ON MAKING THOSE GRANT DISTRIBUTIONS? TO THE CALCULATION FOR THE SALES TAX. YEAH, IT COMES FROM THE. WHERE THE SALE CITY SALES TAX REVENUE IT COMES FROM IF YOU LOOK ON THE APPLICATION ON THE FIRST PAGE UM, THE PROJECTED, UH, THE SALES GROWTH EXPECTATIONS. IT HAS YEAR, ONE YEAR TWO AND YEAR THREE. UM, YEAR ONE IS 840,000.

AND, UM FROM THAT NUMBER. WE, UH . THE, UM TAKE THE PERCENTAGE TAX OR TAX RATE. AND, UM, WE MULTIPLY THAT. UM, TO GET THE CITY SALES TAX REVENUE. FROM THOSE SALES. AND, UM. I KNOW ON THE APPLICATION. WHAT'S BEING DETAILED IN THE RESOLUTION ARE THE SPECIFIC UH WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE D CDC BOARD. THAT WAS, UH JUST FOR THIS SPECIFIC INCENTIVES, BUT TYPICALLY WE DO HAVE APPLICANTS. THEY, UM WHEN THEY FILL OUT THE APPLICATION. IT MIGHT HAVE THE BOXES CHECKED. BUT WHAT WAS APPROVED IS A WAS DIRECTLY PUT ON THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE D CDC BOARD. FOR THOSE SPECIFIC GRANTS. AND SO THE NUMBER THAT THEY HAVE HERE, SO IT'S $8175 A MONTH IS THE MOUTH. UM, THE A MOUNT REQUESTED . UH, THOSE A RE. JUST FROM THE

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BEATS. BUT, UH. WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE D CDC BOARD IS THE 209,500. OKAY, WELL, UM, M.

MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT ONE. SO AND THEN THE NEXT ONE, SO THE BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION GRANT UM AGAIN, IT, IT SAYS FOR THE SO IT'S 12,000 THAT'S BEING REQUESTED. AND. SO TO QUALIFY, SAYS BUSINESSES MUST PROVE THROUGH A BONA FIDE INCENTIVE OFFER OR PENDING LEASE AGREEMENT. THAT THEY A RE SEEKING RELOCATION OR EXPANSION OUTSIDE OF DUNCANVILLE. AND SO DO WE HAVE THOSE DOCUMENTS. UM. WE DON'T HAVE THE CURRENT, UH, BONA FIDE LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THE. RESTAURANT BUT THE GRANT WILL BE CONTINGENT ON THE SUBMISSION OF THAT LEASE AGREEMENT UNTIL WE GET THAT IN OR UNTIL WE GET TILL THEY SUBMIT THAT TO US. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO, EVEN IF THEY START THE OTHER. IMPROVEMENTS. THE GRANT WILL NOT BE DISPERSED UNTIL WE EVER GOING TO FIGHT LEASE AGREEMENT, AND THEN WE CAN BRING WE CAN SHOW TO COUNCIL. ALRIGHT.

AND THEN, UM. YEAH, AGAIN. I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANTS BEING HERE, SO I KNOW SEEM LIKE, UH, IF WE CAN YOU HEAR FROM THEM AND JUST HEAR THEM TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AND, UM WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING AND UM AND II. I DO SUPPORT THIS, BY THE WAY, SO BUT I DID WANNA HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. WELL IT YOU KNOW WHAT ? MR KS? YOU SAID, LET'S COME BACK TO THE SALES TAX INCENTIVE REP. MAYBE WE OUGHT TO JUST FINISH YOUR DISCUSSION. YOUR YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THAT ONE. I MEAN, I GUESS I'M NOT. YOU WANT TO COME BACK TO IT? BUT I'M THINKING MAYBE WE OUGHT TO FINISH IT. WHAT DO YOU WANT? I'M NOT. I GUESS I'M JUST NOT CLEAR ON HOW THAT NUMBER IS CALCULATED AND WHAT? WHAT THAT NUMBER MEANS $8175 A MONTH. WELL. I GUESS TO CLARIFY IT WAS. HOW THE APPLICATION WAS FILLED OUT. THIS IS JUST WE LIKE TO PRESERVE THE APPLICATION. HOW THE APPLICANT FILLED IT OUT. BUT WHEN THE D CDC BOARD. ACTUALLY APPROVE THE. INCENTIVE GRANTS. THAT'S WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN DOCUMENTED IN THE RESOLUTION. THIS TIME. THAT WAS THEIR INITIAL ASK, BUT THAT WAS NOT A THAT WAS THAT HAS NOT BEEN AWARDED BY THE OR THAT WAS NOT APPROVED BY THE D CDC BOARD, BUT WE DID LIKE TO JUST PRESERVE THE APPLICATION. THAT THEY HAD INITIALLY, UH, SUBMITTED BUT IT HAS BEEN, UH. AND THAT'S THOSE SPECIFIC, UH, INCENTIVES. OR ASK , HAS BEEN DETAILED IN THE RESOLUTION FOR THOSE SPECIFIC AMOUNTS. SO THE 15,000. YEAH, THE 15,128. 1005 137,029 AND 29,000, WHICH WILL ADD UP TO 209,500. SO. THAT IS WHAT'S BEING ASKED TONIGHT OR THAT WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED OF THE BOARD. OK? THANK YOU. OKAY? YES, SIR. YEAH, UM. WE ALREADY DID.

REMODELING ON THE C STORE WE SPENT OVER $250,000 ON THIS TOUR . WE PUT A NEW WALK IN COOLERS AND NEW AC UNITS AND NEW COUNTERS AND NEW TILE AND NEW BATHROOM. NEW ELECTRIC. ON THE ON THE C STORE SECTION. WE HAVE THE RESTAURANT. WHEN WE CAME TO OPEN IT, THEY SAID. YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPACE. SO WE PURCHASED THE LAND FROM THE CHURCH FOR ALMOST $120,000. FOR 14,000 SQUARE FEET. SO THE CHURCH THEY DIDN'T AGREED TO SELL US BIGGER SPACE SO WE CAN HAVE MORE PARKING LOT. SO WE ALREADY SPEND ON THE PROJECT OVER $450,000 BETWEEN PLANS REMODELING THE STORE. PLUS, WE'RE GONNA END UP SPENDING ANOTHER 100. $130,000 ON THE RESTAURANT TO REMODEL IT. SO. I DON'T KNOW, IF ANY QUESTION YOU GUYS WANT SO, MISS GOODEN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EACH OF YOU. FIRST OF ALL, MR JEREMIAH. THANK YOU.

SO MUCH FOR STEPPING UP DOING THE PRESENTATION UNDER THE CONDITIONS, UM, THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY FACED WITH. AND FOR THIS TO BE YOUR FIRST TIME THAT I KNOW OF. THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND I APPRECIATE, UM, YOU STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE TO DO SO QUESTION THE D CE DC. THEY

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APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH REGIONAL RESTAURANT AT LEAST IN THERE, CORRECT SO THE APPLICANT YOU ARE AWARE THAT FOR THE APPROVAL. UH, FROM D CE DC THAT IT IS AT LEAST EXPECTED OF A REGIONAL RESTAURANT. UH, THAT'S THE NEXT POINT. I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT. UH, AS A YOU NEED LIKE A FRANCHISE RESTAURANT FRANCHISE RESTAURANT OVER THERE. IT'S VERY SMALL SPACE. WE ALREADY TRIED TO TALK TO. COUPLE FRANCHISES. VENDORS. PLUS. NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR DRIVE THROUGH.

THE PROBLEM WAS THE CHURCH DIDN'T ALLOW US TO BUY MORE PROPERTY SO WE CAN HAVE THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE FOR THE RESTAURANT. I HAVE A OVER 20 CALLS PEOPLE THEY WANT TO LIST THE RESTAURANTS. SOME OF THEM THEY WANNA DO IT. BARBECUE STORE . SOME OF THEM. THEY WANNA DO IT . MEXICANS TOUR AND I HAD ONE OF MY FRIENDS HE WAS PLANNING TO DO IT IN MEDITERRANEAN FOOD. BUT BECAUSE OF THE DELAY, IT'S BEEN ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF SINCE WE'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH. HE ALREADY DID HIS BUSINESS SOMEWHERE ELSE. BUT HE STILL SAID IF. THIS THING GO THROUGH.

THEN HE WILL HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION FOR HIM. MEDITERRANEAN FOOD. IT'S LIKE LEBANESE, SYRIAN EGYPTIAN, YOU KNOW. LIKE SHISH KEBAB. BARBE, NOT BARBECUE. IT'S LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE LEBANESE FOOD, ALMOST A BULLY AND RICE AND CHICKEN AND. IT'S LIKE A GOURMET FOOD, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE, UM, BIG NAME. RESTAURANT. BUT DOES HE HAVE MORE RESTAURANTS? HE HAS ONE RIGHT NOW. AND, UH, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE HE HAS. AND THAT'S HIS SECOND. LOCATION. GONNA BE IF EVERYTHING WENT THROUGH. WELL. THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THAT MY CONCERN IS THIS IS AS STATED IN THE LAST MEETING. THIS IS ONE OF OUR ENTRANCE INTO US INTO OUR CITY. A GATEWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE. WE HAVE NATIONAL CHAIN RESTAURANTS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE. I LET ME SPEAK FOR ME. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A REGIONAL OR NATIONAL CHAIN RESTAURANT, UM, IN THERE SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS THE ENTRANCE INTO OUR CITY, AND WE HAVE THE FIELD HOUSES.

AND ACCORDING TO THE SCHEMATICS, AND ACCORDING TO D, C E. D. C S APPROVAL OF YOUR APPLICATION, THAT WAS ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS AND I WOULD LIKE TO STAY IN LINE WITH THAT. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. THANK YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS. I DON'T KNOW, MR. BREWER. IF MR ROSSI WAS BRIEFED ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD DURING THE LAST TIME WE JUST CAME BEFORE US WITH AND GOING BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER. GOODNESS COMMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A REGIONAL CHAIN. WE WERE HOPING THAT THAT WOULD HAVE A NAME BRAND ON IT. AS YOU SAID, YOU'LL BE A FRANCHISE. FROM WHAT YOU JUST SAID. I'M NOT GETTING A FEELING THAT YOU HAVE YET IDENTIFIED A REGIONAL RESTAURANT . NOT THAT YOU HAVE TO, JUST AS YOU UNDERSTAND. NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A REGIONAL NAME IN THERE. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. WE DIDN'T LIKE PUSH TO FIND AH! THE REGIONAL RESTAURANT. BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SURE HOW'S THE PROJECT GOING TO GO? AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE PEOPLE FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS THEY HAD SOME IDEAS TO DO LIKE WHAT DO YOU CALL IT LIKE TO DO IT LIKE A GENERAL KITCHEN FOR EVENTS AND TRUCKS OR STUFF LIKE THAT IN THAT AREA, SO THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T PROCEED WITH REGIONAL RESTAURANTS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW IS THE SITUATION GOING TO GO WITH THE GRANT AND ALL THESE THINGS? BUT WE THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS THIS COUNCIL. AGREED THAT WHATEVER RESTAURANT WOULD GO IN, THERE WOULD BE A REGIONAL NAME RESTAURANT DESPITE HISTORY DESPITE WHAT THE CDC DID THIS COUNCIL IS ASKING FOR A REGIONAL NAME. SO IF WE CAN GET ASSURANCES FROM YOU DO YOU KNOW THAT AT THE STATION SIGNING THAT AGREEMENT, SO FORTH IS WHAT MR QUINCE REFERENCED IN TERMS OF THE APPLICATION ITSELF. WE NEED ASSURANCES. THAT WHAT WE DESIRE IS A REGIONAL NAME FRANCHISE IN THERE. YOU DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE IT TO US TONIGHT, BUT WE NEED SOME ASSURANCES AND UNDERSTANDING GOING FORWARD THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU WILL PURSUE.

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OKAY. UH, LET'S SEE, MR. OH JERRY, JERRY BROWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. THIS ACTUALLY IS IN MY DISTRICT. AND UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO HOW LONG HAVE HAVE YOU BEEN THERE? YOUR BUSINESS. HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN THERE? WE BOUGHT IT WHEN THE IN 2020 OR 21 WHEN THE CORONA OKAY WAS CLOSED FOR SIX MONTHS. WE WE BOUGHT IT. WE DID THE REMODELING FOR THE STORE.

AND WHEN WE TRY TO REMODELING FOR THE RESTAURANT TO OPEN IT THEY STOPPED US BECAUSE THEY SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WORKING. SO WE OPENED THE C STORE AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING. TO GET THE RESTAURANT GOING. OKAY SO, SO THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING DUNCANVILLE TO WANT TO DO BUSINESS. LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER GOODEN SAID IT IS YOU KNOW, GAY WENT TO THE CITY AND RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE FIELD HOUSE. I'M IN FAVOR OF WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO ENHANCE BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT OFF OF THE EXPRESSWAY. I'M SAYING AS FAR AS BEING ABLE TO HAVE A GREAT LOOKING BUILDING PARKING LOT, AND I'M NO, DON'T I'M SAYING YOU'RE RENDERING EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT. SO I'M I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT, UM I'M ONE THAT BELIEVES BUILDING THEY WILL COME. I THINK. WELL HE LEFT, I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK THE FINAL DECISION WHATEVER BUSINESSES COMING THERE IT'S US ANYWAY, SO DO YOU CONSIDER STEAK AND SHAKE AS FRANCHISE RESTAURANT. OKAY? I HAVE ONE OF MY PARTNERS. HE HAS TAKEN SHAPE. I'LL JUST BRING THEM OVER. LET THEM DO THE STUDY ON THAT LOCATION. THEN WE GO FROM THE WAY WE TALK TO TACO CASA TACO CASA SAID NO, BECAUSE THERE IS ANOTHER ONE COCKROACH HILL HAS TO BE LIKE 10 MILES AWAY. WE HAVE TO TALK TO TALK TO TACO CASA. WE HAVE TWO SONS, SONICS. BREAKING SHAKE. I MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING IT. TO THE TABLE. THANK YOU. GOING BACK TO MR. THANK YOU, MAYOR, SO I JUST WANT TO ECHO. WHAT MISS CHERRY BROWN JUST SAID, BECAUSE THIS I MEAN, ALL THESE GRANTS ARE REALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT KIND OF RESTAURANT WE WANT. BUT ALL THESE GRANTS ARE REALLY ABOUT BEAUTIFICATION AND ENHANCEMENT OF THE AREA, RIGHT.

WHAT'S I MEAN? THAT'S YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE. PAYMENT GRANTS LANDSCAPE PAINT, SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT MAKING THAT BUSINESS WHATEVER IT IS, THEY'RE LOOK BETTER SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING THROUGH TOWN I MEAN, FRANKLY, I'D LIKE TO SEE A MEDITERRANEAN RESTAURANT, BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S ME. BUT I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THESE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE GRANTS IS THAT YOU MAKE IT LOOK BETTER AND THEN IT WILL BE MORE ATTRACTIVE TO ANY RESTAURANTS THAT MIGHT WANT TO BE PUT THERE. AND SO I MEAN, KIND OF, SO ALL THAT'S KIND OF BESIDE THE POINT FOR ME AS FAR AS WHAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS EVENING, AND I JUST HAD ONE OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT. THE SIGNAGE. GRANT. SO COULD YOU. WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK, PLEASE? TO THE RENDERINGS? OR OR FIRST GO BACK TO THE SO THERE? YEAH, THERE'S A RENDERING. THE SIGN IS RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT THE GULF. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH ANY JOB OR BUT WE'RE WAITING TO SEE HOW THE WHOLE PACK IS GOING TO BE. I HAVE TO REPRESENT IT TO THE JOB. SO WE CAN DO THAT GOLF IMAGE. BECAUSE WE ALREADY PUT A NEW PUMPS AND YOU PURE SYSTEM. SO WE HAVE 23 JOBBERS. THEY'RE TALKING TO US, BUT WE'RE KIND OF PUTTING EVERYTHING ON HOLD. LOUIS C. HOW IS THE SITUATION GOING TO GO? SO THE AMOUNT THAT'S REQUESTED HERE. I MEAN, THAT'S SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A BALLPARK AMOUNT IF YOU'RE NOT SURE, EXACTLY. I'M SORRY. SO THAT THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING HERE FOR 80,000. THAT'S THE STORY OF A BALLPARK AMOUNT. IT'S KIND OF AN ESTIMATE. YEAH 8 88,000 FOR THE SIGNAGE GRANT. NO, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THE SINUS. WE'RE ASKING FOR THE PARKING LOT, ISN'T IT? OH, IT'S BOOZE. IT WAS APPROVED BY D. C. D C AT THE BOARD AT THE BOARD MEETING IS THE 15,000 FOR THE CONCRETE PAVING 128,500 FOR THE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS $37,000. FOR A. $37,000 FOR WAS IT? I MEAN FOR THE DRAINAGE AND THEN 29,000 FOR UH, DUMPSTER BLOCK WALL ENCLOSURE. YEAH I THINK, BUT I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE APPLICATION AND I'M GOING ALONG WITH MR COHEN. SO

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FOLLOWING EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DOING, HE'S GOING LINE BY LINE IN TERMS OF THE APPLICATION AND THEN MR FINCH POINTED OUT BECAUSE GOING AWAY FOR JUST A MINUTE, GOING AWAY FROM THE APPLICATION AND GO INTO THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE OR THE GRANT THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE SIGNING. IT'S A DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SEE IN THE APPLICATION. SO PROBABLY TO OUR BENEFIT. LET ME READ WHERE WITH THAT PARTICULAR PARAGRAPH TO GET IT SO THAT WE ALL COME ON ON THE SAME PLAYING FIELD HERE, SO THAT THIS IS THE BORDERS OF FORMALLY APPROVED AN APPLICATION WAS INCENTIVE GRANTS. FOR 15,000 FOR CONCRETE, PAVING SOMEBODY NOT TO LANDSCAPING NOT TO EXCEED 15,000 CONCRETE, PAVING AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 128,500 STORM DRAIN SYSTEM IF IT WAS NOT TO EXCEED 37,000 AND THE INSTALLATION OF A DUMPER BLOCKING CLOSURE ABOUT NOT TO EXCEED 29,000 FROM THE CENTER GRAD, TOTALING 209 500. THESE PAYMENTS OF INCENTIVE GRANTS CONTINUED ON SUSPICION OF BONAFIDE LEASE AGREEMENT FROM NATIONAL REGIONAL. THERE IT IS REGIONAL RESTAURANT TO OPERATE AND IMPROVE PROPERTY, SO IT'S WE WERE DISSECTING THE APPLICATION. AND NOT APPLYING THE DISSECTION OF THE APPLICATION TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT. SO WHEN WE PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY. OKAY ONE QUESTION I HAVE GOING BACK TO MR CONTRERAS IS CONCERNED FOR MR CITY ATTORNEY. MR ROSSI HAS ALREADY SAID THAT THEY HAVE SPENT NEXUS OF $450,000 ON THE ON THE FACILITY ITSELF TODAY. MR CONTRERAS, DO YOU CONSIDER THAT $450,000 ALREADY EXPENDED? AS GOING TOWARD THE 800 SOME $1000 THAT HE'S ASKING FOR. I BELIEVE SO. I'M LOOKING AT THE PROPOSAL. UM DATED 1012 23. WHICH INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM PERMIT FEES TO ENCORE. TO CITE WORK, CONCRETE WORK MASONRY. PAINT PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, SO IT'S A IT'S HARD TO DECIPHER FROM WHAT THE GENTLEMAN'S EXPLAINED. HE'S ALREADY DONE VERSUS THIS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE THEY HAVE DONE WORK TOWARDS THIS SCHEDULE OF WORK HERE, ALREADY DONE IN EXCESS OF 50% OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING BEING IN TOTAL, SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T REGISTER CONCERN BECAUSE MR HAGER SAID WE CAN AMEND IT. I'M NOT SO SURE WE NEED TO DO THAT.

BASED ON WHAT MR AZIZ SAID ALREADY ABOUT THE 450,000. HE'S ALREADY, UH, INVESTED IN THE ACTIVITY. IF I COULD. I WOULD JUST ASK THE QUESTION THAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE? UM, INVESTING.

THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $810,000 THAT'S INCLUDING THE $209,000 THAT YOU'RE GETTING IN A GRANT.

YES, PLUS BECAUSE. THE TOTAL LIST HERE IS GOING TO COST ABOUT 480,000. COULD YOU SPEAK INTO MIKE? PLEASE THANK YOU TOTAL COST OF THE PARKING LOT. IT'S GOING TO END UP COSTING ABOUT $480,000. THE GRANT IS. FOR 29. YEAH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA PAY THE REST. PLUS, WE'RE GONNA REMODEL THE RESTAURANT. YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? MR COHEN'S. I JUST NEED TO KNOW IS YOU'RE GONNA REQUIRE IN ORDER TO GIVE THIS GRANT AND ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT BY THE APPLICANT. WELL, THAT'S WHY I ASKED MR CONTRERAS MADE THAT CONCERNED NOTED, AND THAT'S WHY I WENT BACK TO HIM TO SAY DOES HE STILL HAVE THAT CONCERN BASED ON WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN EXPANDED, SO MR CONTRERAS, IF YOU'RE OKAY. IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH WHAT'S HAPPENED, THEN WE WILL NOT NEED TO AMEND IT TO INCLUDE THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE FOR MR FOR MR HAGAR. BUT WE CAN NO, I DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S NECESSARY. AT THIS POINT. I'M GOING TO JUST TRUST THAT WE CAN GET THE WORK THAT'S BEEN PROMISED. DON OKAY, SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, THEN, AS A RESOLUTION, AS STATED, NOW RARELY ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. SO MOVED SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE BY MR KOONTZ, THE SECOND BY YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER GOODEN, PLEASE VOTE. UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED MR VERACRUZ ABSENT THANK YOU, MR ROSSI FOR INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND THIS HAS BEEN SAID YOU HAVE A GATEWAY ACTIVITY. TO OUR CITY. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX STAFF

[6.A. Receive the Monthly Financial Report as of December 31, 2023.]

AND BOARD REPORTS. I DON'T REMEMBER SIX A RECEIVED THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT AS OF

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DECEMBER 31ST OF 2023. MISOGYNY. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAPPY TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT. I HAVE THE PLEASURE TO GIVING YOU. THE DECEMBER FINANCIAL REPORT HAS AT THE END OF DECEMBER. SO THIS IS THE THIRD MONTH OUT OF THE FISCAL YEAR, SO THAT WOULD PUT US AT A BENCHMARK OF 25% THAT IS THE NUMBER TO KIND OF COMPARE THINGS AGAINST. SO GIVING YOU THIS ALL FUND SUMMARY HERE OF OUR REVENUES. WE'VE COLLECTED 19.3 MILLION TO DATE AGAIN. JUST YOU'VE HEARD IT A FEW TIMES THE LAST COUPLE OF REPORTS SO THE PREVIOUS YEAR. WE HAD RECEIVED THE SECOND BATCH OF THE ART OF FUNDING. SO THAT'S WHY 23 IS AN ANOMALY AND HIGHER THAN THE PREVIOUS YEARS. I'M HERE TO DATE INTEREST INCOME WE'VE RECEIVED IS 980,000 AGAIN WANT TO APPLAUD OUR GOOD WORK OF OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS? AS WE'VE BEEN, UM, AGGRESSIVELY, UM INVESTING IN THE MARKET. SO OUR ACTUAL REVENUE TO DATE IS 23.3. ON THE EXPENSE SIDE OF THE HOUSE. WE HAVE SPENT 17.9 MILLION TO DATE AGAIN. THAT BENCHMARK BEING 25% WE ARE TRENDING BELOW AT 15.8.

PROPERTY AND SALES TAX PROPERTY TAX AGAIN IS, UM, THAT'S 50% OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE BUDGET.

WE START RECEIVING THE PAYMENTS TO COME IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER JANUARY. THAT'S THE BULK OF THE TIME THAT WE START COLLECTING THE TAX. UM SO IN IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER SORRY THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO DECEMBER, BUT IN DECEMBER WE RECEIVED $10.2 MILLION SO WE'VE RECEIVED WE HAVE RECEIVED 10.3 MILLION TO DATE. THAT'S 43% OF OUR TAX REVENUE BUDGET. ON THE SALES TAX SIDE AGAIN. WE RECEIVE PAYMENTS TWO YEARS IN ARREARS, MEANING WHAT WE COLLECTED FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. TWO MONTHS. DID I SAY TWO YEARS, TWO MONTHS, TWO MONTHS IN ARREARS. WHAT WE GOT PAID FOR OCTOBER. WE RECEIVED THE PAYMENT IN DECEMBER. SO FOR ONE PAYMENT OUT OF THE YEAR, SO FAR WERE TRAINING AT 2.92% OVER THE SAME TIME PERIOD LAST YEAR. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AGAIN THAT REGIONAL SNAPSHOT. THIS DOESN'T MEAN MUCH YET INTO THE YEAR AS THIS IS ONLY ONE MONTH OUT OF 12, BUT SO YOU CAN SEE HOW WE COMPARE GROWTH WISE IN THE REGIONAL AREA. GENERAL FUND. SO AGAIN, PROPERTY TAX REVENUE COMING IN, UM, SALES TAX COLLECTED TWO MONTHS BEHIND.

WE'VE RECEIVED 12.53 MILLION TO DATE. UM 596,000 AND INTEREST INCOME. SO WE'VE RECEIVED ACTUALLY 31% 31.6. TO DATE. ON THE EXPENSE SIDE OR ACTUAL EXPENSES ARE 18.3% AGAIN UNDER THAT BENCHMARK OF 25% AND IT'S MAINLY, UM, THE PAYROLL SALARY AND BENEFITS. TO GIVE YOU THAT TABLE VIEWS. YOU CAN SEE THE SAME INFORMATION. BUT THIS JUST SHOWS YOU HOW THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES BREAKDOWN AND HOW THEY COMPARE TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR AS WELL. SO UM, LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME WE HAD RECEIVED 34% WERE AT 31% WERE ABOUT IN LINE. AND JUST TO GIVE YOU, UM KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT, LIKE FROM A CASH FUND BALANCED STANDPOINT, THIS NUMBER IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO FLUCTUATE UNTIL WE FINALIZE THE FY 23 AUDITS. SO UM, THOSE NUMBERS WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FLUCTUATE AS WE'RE GETTING MORE REVENUE VERSUS WHAT WE'RE EXPENDING AT THIS POINT IN THE YEAR. MOVING ON TO THE UTILITY FUNDS. UM WE HAVE RECEIVED 3.9 MILLION TO DATE, SO THAT'S 18% OF THE BUDGET. WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO TREND LIKE ONE MONTH BEHIND WITH THE UTILITY FUND BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE ONE MONTH THAT GETS BACKDATED TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR, SO BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR WILL HAVE CAUGHT UP. UM OUR EXPENDITURES ARE AT 14. UM AND I WANTED TO REVISIT THIS CHART. UM SO WHAT I HAD PRESENTED BEFORE IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE OUR HEALTH OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND ARM EATERIES AND KIND OF THAT LOSS RATIO THERE WERE USING PUMPED NUMBER OF PUMP GALLONS, BUT WE WENT BACK TO IT AND WANTED TO COMPARE WHAT WE ACTUALLY BILLED TO CUSTOMERS VERSUS WHAT DALLAS WATER UTILITIES ACTUALLY BUILT TO US, WHICH GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PICTURE. SO ON THE AVERAGE FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS IS ABOUT 17.8% IT'S THE UNBILLED LOSS FOR WATER AND, UM, TO GIVE YOU A KIND OF A GAUGE IN THE REPORT ITSELF, UH, DESCRIBED IT AS THE TEXAS WATERBOARD GIVES A STANDARD ABOUT 10% ANYTHING ABOVE THAT USUALLY INDICATES THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE YOU KNOW. NEED LEAKS, LETTERING, ISSUES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO GIVE YOU A GAUGE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO COMPARE OURSELVES TO 10% IS ABOUT THAT, UM, INDUSTRY AVERAGE. SO WE'LL JUST KEEP SHOWING YOU THIS SO YOU CAN JUST AGAIN SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND KEEPING THAT UP TODAY. AND

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AGAIN, JUST THE KIND OF THE TABLE VIEW HERE OF UTILITY FUND. AND THEN THE CASH BALANCE THE FUN SUMMERY THERE AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO FLUCTUATE AS WE GO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

AND THEN JUST SOME OTHER FUN HIGHLIGHTS. SOME OF THIS WILL SEEM KIND OF REPETITIVE AS I'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE. IN THE PREVIOUS MONTHS, JUST SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT YOU'LL SEE SOME ANOMALIES WHERE THEY ARE TRENDING AHEAD OF THE 25% SO AGAIN HOTEL MOTEL TAX. WE PAID OUT SOME GRANTS. UM VARIETY OF GRANT, SO WE'VE SPENT 36.2% TO DATE, UM, ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE LIABILITY INSURANCE AGAIN. WE PAY OUR ANNUAL INSURANCE PREMIUM THAT'S DUE OCTOBER 1, SO THE BULK OF THAT PAYMENT THAT EXPENSE HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE. IN THE FLEET REPLACEMENT AGAIN. THIS IS BASED ON TIMING OF WHEN WE ACTUALLY PAY FOR THE FLEET THAT WE PURCHASE. SO WE'RE AT 53% OF THE BUDGET. AND THEN JUST SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT HIGHLIGHTS. WE KNOW FIRE STATION YOU KNOW IS WRAPPING UP SWAN RIDGES WRAPPING UP AND THEN WE KNOW ARMSTRONG PARK IS WRAPPING UP TO AND WE AVAILABLE THIS SPRING. ANY QUESTIONS? YES I ACTUALLY IT'S A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY MANAGER. AND MR CITY MANAGER UNDER YOUR RESPONSIBILITY COMING ON BOARD. THAT GOES TO THE FRONT BALANCES IN TERMS OF THE DAYS OF OPERATING EXPENSES. WHAT IS YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THE NUMBER OF DAYS VERSUS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST? MHM GENERALLY SPEAKING, A GENERAL RULE IS IF YOU YOU HAD 2 TO 3 MONTHS WORTH OF EXPENSES AND FUND MOUNTS. THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD, UH, AVERAGE. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT, UM, AND SO YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO INVEST AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THE INTEREST RATES THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. UM WE AS WE GET INTO BUDGET SEASON, WE'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO UM, FINE TUNE SOME OF THE FISCAL PROJECTIONS AND WHERE WE'RE GOING, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. MISS SOTO MENTIONED THE WATER LOSS. UM, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN PROVIDING ME WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND I'M WORKING WITH A ENTITY TO REALLY, UM, TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES WAS THE M I, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME ANALYSIS FOR ME RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN BRING BACK HOPEFULLY TO YOU IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. BECAUSE WE ARE WE ARE LOSING SOME MONEY ON WITH WATER LOSS, AND, UH, YOU KNOW THERE. THERE'S A WAY AND I KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTS EVEN FROM THE DISTRICT MEETINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, THE RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR AM I, TOO, IF THEY'VE GOT LEAKING SPRINKLERS IN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS SO I'VE KIND OF GONE A LONG WAY AROUND ABOUT YOUR QUESTION YOU HAVE. I HAVE, UM, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE VARIETY OF PIECES TO THIS PUZZLE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON. SO IN TERMS OF THE FUND BALANCE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE'RE WHAT 10 15% GIVE OR TAKE, I THINK IS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT BALLPARK BALLPARK. 15% WOULD BE YOUR MINIMUM, RIGHT? YEAH, HAVE CORRECT AND THEN NORMALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING 2 TO 3 MONTHS, YOU KNOW 25 30% THAT'S A THAT'S A MORE REALISTIC , I THINK OF HEALTHY FUND BALANCE, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE INVESTMENTS, SOME WHERE WE'RE AT, AND I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON OUR FUTURE IN TERMS OF BUDGETING PROCESS FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS OF PROPERTY EXPENSES OF THE FUND BALANCE. OKAY? AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS OD. OH, IT WAS GOOD. YES.

THANK YOU. COULD YOU GO TO THE LAST PAGE PAGE, PLEASE? FLEET REPLACEMENT EXPENSES WERE CURRENTLY AT 53.3% DO WE ANTICIPATE? UM NOT GOING OVER BUDGET. FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR OR WELL, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, LOOK CLOSER TO THAT. OBVIOUSLY, THESE ARE AH. A LOT OF LOT OF PURCHASES, YOU KNOW, ALL AT ONCE, AND THE TIMING OF THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH, YOU KNOW THE PACE OF ANY OF YOUR OTHER OPERATIONS REALLY JUST DEPENDS.

BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT EXPECTED TO GO OVER. BUT WE ARE TRYING TO GET AGGRESSIVELY, YOU KNOW, REPLACE THINGS AND GETTING THOSE THINGS MOVING A LOT FASTER, TOO. SO AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT. YES, WE WILL DEFINITELY COME TO YOU IF WE'RE NEEDING TO DO DIFFERENT BASED ON OUR NEEDS. YEAH IF I COULD JUST REAL QUICK MAYOR. SO UH, SPECIFICALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF HAD A MEETING TODAY AND WE WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE ENTIRE POLICE FORCE, AND ABOUT HALF OF OUR VEHICLES ARE NOT OPERATIONAL CURRENTLY. AND SO THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME NEEDS IN TERMS OF POLICE FLEET VEHICLES. UM, SO HOPEFULLY AS SOME OF THOSE REPAIRS ARE BEING MADE IN THOSE CAN COME BACK ONLINE, BUT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE MAY HAVE TO BRING BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUESTION FROM MS OD. THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH A LOT OF DETAIL. THEN WE DO KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THAT OVER TO

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YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NO IT'S NOT OKAY. JUST CHECKING IT. YEAH. NO. COULD YOU GO BACK? I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF I SAW SOMETHING WRONG OR THE FIRE STATION 8.9 MILLION SPENT TO DATE. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S HOW HOW MUCH WE HAVE SPENT AS A AGAIN THIS IS ANOTHER DECEMBER, YOU KNOW, REPORTS SO 8.9 IS WHAT HAS GONE OUT THE DOOR. YES SO WHAT DO WE ESTIMATE THAT IF YOU CAN INDULGE ME A QUICK SECOND MAYOR, I THINK WE HAVE CONTRACTS THAT ARE STILL EXPENSES STILL TO COME. THAT'S PROBABLY MOSTLY DONE WITH THE ARCHITECTURE, YOU KNOW, AND WE STILL HAVE SOME MORE PAYMENTS COMING FOR THE CORE CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S THE YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY BUILT THE BUILDING. BUT WE HAVE ALL THE OTHER ANCILLARY IS THAT YOU KNOW THAT I T RELATED THINGS THAT FURNITURE MOVING COSTS ALL THOSE THINGS. UM STILL GET FACTORED INTO THE TOTAL COST OF THAT BUILDING. SO THANK YOU. OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. YEAH, I THINK SO. MOVING ON

[6.B. Present the Police Department's Quarterly Report.]

TO ITEM NUMBER SIX B POLICE QUARTERLY REPORT. INTERIM POLICE CHIEF STAGNER FOR AS YOURS, SIR.

THANK YOU. AS YOU CAN SEE, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS FOR UM OCTOBER TO NOVEMBER OR I'M SORRY. DECEMBER SO I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY UPDATE YOU ON THE UPDATE. UM, THE KIND OF GET YOU UP TO SPEED ON EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE. UM SO BEGINNING. WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR PERSONNEL AND STAFFING. UM SO OFFICERS GARCIA AND VASQUEZ. THERE ON THE LEFT. THEY WERE IN THEIR THIRD PHASE OF TRAINING WHEN THIS QUARTER WAS BEING BEING DONE, UM THEY HAVE SINCE GRADUATED FILL TRAINING AND CURRENTLY ON THEIR OWN. PATROL IN FACT, TODAY IS THEIR TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY, SO IT'S PRETTY FITTING THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION NOW. I MEAN, THEY'RE DOING REALLY WELL IN PATROL TO AS EXPECTED. UM OFFICERS. CROSBY. AND GOMEZ. OFFICER CROSBY ACTUALLY RESIGNED RECENTLY. I'M AN OFFICER. GOMEZ IS CLOSE TO COMPLETING HIS FIELD TRAINING. AS STATED AT THE BOTTOM. WE HAD A, UM OUR CIVIL SERVICE TEST ON THE 10TH. UM, THAT TEST WE HAD 30 PEOPLE SHOW UP. WE HAD 24 PASSED THE WRITTEN TEST. 22 PAST OUR PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST, WHICH IS A 2000 M ROW. AND WE HAVE AN ACTIVE LIST OF 22. WE HAVE SINCE STARTED OUR BACKGROUNDS, AND WE'VE ALREADY REJECTED EIGHT OFF THAT LIST. SO WE HAVE A LIST OF 14 TO HIRE 10. UM THAT'S WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO DO THAT, WITH A LIST OF 14 WILL BE LIKELY TO GET ONE OR TWO OFF THIS LIST. UM, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE REJECTIONS WERE DRUG USAGE OR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT WE JUST CAN'T IGNORE.

OBVIOUSLY SO BEFORE YOU GO ON JUST AN OBSERVATION, BRINGING UP LOOKING AT GARCIA AND VASQUEZ AND SO FORTH. I OBSERVED LAST WEEK, ONE OF OUR PATROL VEHICLES WITH TWO INDIVIDUALS. BUT MOST OF THE TIME I SEE THEM WITH ONLY ONE INDIVIDUAL. ONE OFFICER. IS THERE SOMETHING BECAUSE MAYBE LACK OF VEHICLES OR IS THERE SOMETHING GOING ON WITH DUTY? SHIFT TO THE TWO IS A NORMALLY JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL ONE OFFICER PER VEHICLE, OR DID I SEE AN ANOMALY WITH TWO? IT IS NORMALLY ONE. NOW WE GIVE THE PATROL SHIFTS THE AUTONOMY TO THE AD RIGHT? A PARTNER IF THEY NEED TO, BUT MORE THAN LIKELY YOU SAUCE OR GOMEZ TRAINING WITH HIS FILL TRAINING OFFICER. IF I HAD TO GUESS WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO HAVE TOO MANY. TWO PERSON ELEMENTS AT THAT POINT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, STAFF DEVELOPMENT. OBVIOUSLY IT'S VERY I'M VERY PASSIONATE ON DEVELOPING OR STAFF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID, AND WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPTIONS TO HELP OUR OFFICERS, UM, DEAL WITH COMBATIVE SUBJECTS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT.

WAS THIS GRACIE SCHOOL OF JU JITSU? UM AND WHAT THAT IS THE MAJORITY OF OUR ALTERCATIONS.

WHENEVER WE DEAL WITH SOMEBODY WHO'S COMBATIVE, IT NORMALLY GOES TO THE GROUND, AND ALL THIS IS GIVING THAT OFFICER AN OPTION . THE SAFELY DEFUSE THIS INCIDENT AND PUT THIS PERSON IN THE CUSTODY. UM AS YOU CAN SEE, IT SAYS IT'S DUE TO ITS DE ESCALATION, CULTURE, SOUND DECISION MAKING AND THE SPECIFIC TACTICS DEPLOYED DURING AN ACTIVE ASSAULT. UM IN ADDITION TO THAT DETECTIVES ATTENDED THE ANNUAL TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF VEHICLE THEFT. INVESTIGATORS CONFERENCE THAT ENABLES THEM TO STAY ABREAST OF NEW TRENDS ON VEHICLES BEING STOLEN. UM AND THEN WE HOLD OUR ANNUAL QUALIFICATIONS FOR FIREARMS AROUND OCTOBER AND WE HAD NO

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ISSUES WITH THAT, EITHER. SO FROM THERE WE HAVE OUR CARE TEAM . UM YOU GUYS HAVE OBVIOUSLY NO OFFICER HERNANDEZ, AND HE DOES A REALLY GREAT JOB ON HIGHLIGHTING WHAT HE DOES IN OUR CITY, IN FACT, THROUGH OCTOBER TO DECEMBER, HE'S HAS 39 NEW CLIENTS. SIX VOLUNTARY ASSESSMENT AND THEN 23 ACTIVELY ENGAGE CLIENTS, WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S 23 PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT HAVING TO RESPOND ON, UH, POLICE OFFICERS CONTINUOUSLY. SO IT HELPS CERTAINLY OUR RESPONSE. WHEN WHENEVER WE HAVE AN OFFICER WHO DEALS WITH THIS WITH HIS EXPERTISE. THIS IS OUR PATROL ACTIVITY. UM AT A GLANCE YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR CALLS OF SERVICE WENT DOWN FROM 22 TO 23. NORMALLY, WHEN THAT HAPPENS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE ARE SELF INITIATED. ACTIVITY TENDS TO GO UP BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ANSWERING WHILE THEY'RE ANSWERING LESS CALLS, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE MORE TIME TO DO MORE SELF INITIATED STUFF.

WHICH AS YOU CAN TELL, THEY ISSUED ADDITIONAL CITATIONS ARE MORE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. OUR TOP FIVE SIDED VIOLATIONS OR NO INSURANCE. NO DRIVER'S LICENSE, SPEEDING EXPIRED REGISTRATION RAN THE STOP SIGN. SO THE NEXT THING THAT WE HAVE IS A GREAT PROGRAM IS OUR B AND B PROGRAM THAT OUR CITIZENS ON PATROL CONDUCT. OBVIOUSLY EDUCATION IS A KEY FOR US TO HELP REDUCE, NOT ERADICATE, BUT REDUCE B AND BS. AND THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. UM AS YOU CAN SEE WHEN CO. UM, HAD A 95% PASS RATE. SO EDUCATION IS HELPING, UM SO THAT'S THE THREE LOCATIONS THAT WE DID THROUGH OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER. IT'S COST COEN COEN CASH SAVER. YES WHAT? WHAT'S WHAT'S PARTICIPATION LIKE IN THAT PROGRAM RIGHT NOW FROM OUR C O. P S. IT'S REALLY GOOD. IT'S IN FACT, I BELIEVE THEY'RE DOING ONE HERE SOON. UM, I SPOKE WITH THE C P TRIPLE A, UM ASSOCIATION , AND THEY WERE DISCUSSING ON GOING OUT AND DOING ANOTHER ONE NOW. THERE WAS A COMMENT OCCASIONALLY YOU'LL GET INTO A NOT AN ALTERCATION BUT DISCUSSION WITH MAYBE A PERSON WHO OWNS THAT VEHICLE THAT THE C O. P S ARE LOOKING INTO WONDERING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT TOP RIGHT PICTURE THERE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHO THEY ARE. IT'S JUST I UNDERSTAND. PEOPLE DON'T WANT PEOPLE LOOKING INTO THEIR CARS AND I GUESS AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS FOR THE C O P PROGRAM IN GENERAL, HOW IS THAT LOOKING? IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD. UM, YOU KNOW, WE AS FAR AS HOW MANY SHOW UP FOR THIS. I MEAN, FOR THE WHOLE PROGRAM, SO TOTAL PROGRAM WE HAVE. I'M NOT SURE THE TOTAL NUMBER BUT WE HAVE, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 6070 TOTAL IN THE CPI TRIPLE A. YEAH. I'M SORRY. I'M ASKING ABOUT JUST YEAH. JUST C O P. AND IN GENERAL HMM. YOUR CITIZENS, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A COURSE. YES I GUESS YOU ARE. DO WE HAVE A LOT OF ENROLLMENT IN SO WE HAVEN'T LATELY WHICH. PLUS, WE HAD SOME BUDGET ISSUES. SO WE'VE REDUCED OUR SEOP CLASSES TO ONE A YEAR, AND IT'S IN THE FALL NOW, UM, I KNOW OFFICER AREAS IS TRYING TO GET A HISPANIC C P A SPANISH SPEAKING ONLY. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE INSTRUCTORS JUST AREN'T BILINGUAL THAT THAT DO THESE CLASSES, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT ADOPTED AS WELL. UM SO FOR THE MOST PART, WE HAVE PROBABLY ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15 SHOW UP ON THE C O. P CLASSES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU BET. SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN THE MR CONTRERAS, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? OKAY UM, SO THE OTHER THING BETWEEN OCTOBER AND DECEMBER WE HAD FOUR USE OF FORCE INCIDENT. ZERO VEHICLE PURSUITS AND FOUR COMPLAINTS.

AND I'LL UPDATE THIS BECAUSE, UM , ALL THE USE OF FORCE REPORT HAD BEEN APPROVED AND WITHIN DEPARTMENT POLICY, AND ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS HAVE FINALLY BEEN DISPOSITION. SO EVERYTHING IS UP TO DATE. NOW IT'S NOT STILL PENDING IN THE APPROVAL AT THIS POINT. AGAIN. THIS IS OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER. OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS. SINCE THIS IS OVER THE HOLIDAY SEASON, I'LL REALLY HIGHLIGHT THE SANTA COP PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE, UM SANTA COP PROGRAM PROVIDES GIFTS TO THE DESERVING FAMILIES, AND THIS YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE 40 DIFFERENT FAMILIES WITH TOYS. IN

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ADDITION TO THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE A LOCAL CHURCH UM, A ASSORTMENT OF TOYS FOR THEIR MISSIONARY TRIP. AND THAT THEY DID DOWN IN SOUTH TEXAS. AND THEN FINALLY, UM WE DELIVERED APPROXIMATELY 200 GIFTS TO THE SENIORS THAT AT NURSING HOMES, SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OUTREACH FROM FROM OFFICER AREAS. SHE HIGHLIGHTS THIS AND DOESN'T REALLY GOOD JOB ON ENSURING THAT WERE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO GOING INTO OUR NEIGHBOR'S GROUPE OFFENSES. UM I'LL LET YOU GUYS KIND OF SKIMMED THIS, UM. OF WHAT'S OCCURRED, UNFOUNDED, ACTUAL IN WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CLEAR. AND THEN GROUPE OFFENSES. WE'LL GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THAT'S GOT THE COMPARISON OF OTHER CITIES AS WELL. UM, SO THE GROUPE OFFENSES ARE ALL OF THESE HERE. SO OBVIOUSLY THE YELLOW IS OCTOBER GREENS NOVEMBER AND BLUES DECEMBER. SO GOING INTO THE MAJOR CRIMES FOR DIFFERENT COUNCIL DISTRICTS. OCTOBER YOU HAD DISTRICT 1234 AND FIVE OBVIOUSLY, UM, YOU HAVE A CORRIDOR ISSUE WITH A LOT OF OUR MOTOR VEHICLE THEFTS. TELL YOU, UM WE HAVE SOME STRATEGIC CAMERAS PLACE NOW TO HOPEFULLY HELP WITH THE REDUCTION OF THIS.

THEY CAME ONLINE AROUND THIS TIME, SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL START SEEING MORE OF A REDUCTION ON SOME OF THESE CRIMES BECAUSE OF THESE CAMERAS. SO YOU HAVE NOVEMBER. AND THEN FINALLY, DECEMBER. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YES, MR CONTRERAS . THANK YOU. OF COURSE, I'M GOING BACK TO THE CARE PROGRAM. OKAY UH, LAST YEAR, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND IT SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE POSSIBLY GOING TO BE DEFUNDED. ARE WE? DO WE KNOW WHERE WE STAND TODAY WITH THIS? YES. SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE GRANT FUNDING IS GOING TO UM , EXPIRE. I BELIEVE IN MARCH OR APRIL. I BELIEVE WE DISCUSSED THIS IN THE COUNCIL MEETING. AT LEAST FORMER CHIEF LOVING ME, DAVID. YOU GUYS DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FUNDING IT OUT OF OUR GENERAL BUDGET THE REMAINDER OF THE FISCAL YEAR. OKAY, BUT THAT WOULD BE, UM. THAT'S ALONE, OR WOULD THAT BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OTHER CITIES PARTICIPATING? CAN'T FOR SURE, SAY IT, BUT I BELIEVE CEDAR HILL IS LOOKING AT PULLING THEIR OFFICER FROM THIS REGIONAL GROUP. UM I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT FOR SURE. BUT I HAVE HEARD THAT, UM DESOTO OBVIOUSLY WILL STILL MAINTAIN THEIR PEOPLE THERE, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME OTHER SMALLER AGENCIES INVOLVED. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO REMAIN IN THIS PROGRAM. WE'LL I THINK THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SHOWED US TONIGHT. SUPPORT THAT THERE IS A NEED AND IT DOES PROVIDE AND AN ALTERNATIVE TO MAYBE MORE FORCEFUL ACTIONS AND PULLING OFFICERS AWAY FROM OTHER DEALS AND OFFICER HERNANDEZ HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB BY ALL INDICATIONS, SO I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO FUND. THIS PROGRAM ABSOLUTELY. IT WAS GOOD. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM COULD WE GO BACK TO THE COMPARISON PAGE? BE THAT RIGHT THERE? SURE SO I KNOW THAT, UM THE COMPARED CITIES HAVE A HIGHER HIGHER UP POPULATION. SO IS IT POSSIBLE? THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION. IS IT POSSIBLE TO SEE THIS IN PERCENTAGE BREAKDOWN? COMPARED TO POPULATION. SO THAT WAS FOR ME. IT'S A MORE. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE THAT. UM I CAN ONLY EXTRAPOLATE THE DATA FROM THIS NEIGHBORS GROUP. I CAN LOOK AND SEE IF THAT'S MAYBE A POSSIBILITY. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT A NECESSITY, BUT I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IT SUGGESTING IT. THANK YOU. MR KOONTZ. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS KIND OF RELATED TO PERSONNEL, MAYBE STAFFING BUT MIGHT BE MORE OF JUST KIND OF A BROAD QUESTION. OKAY. TALK ABOUT HIRING. YES, ATTENTION. SO DO WE. DO. OFFICERS CURRENTLY HAVE ANY KIND OF LIKE PEER SUPPORT.

PROGRAM. ABSOLUTELY UM SO SERGEANT MCCARTY LEADS THAT EFFORT. HE IS EXTREMELY

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PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT. HE IS OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IF WE HAVE A CRITICAL INCIDENT OR SOMEBODY WANTS TO REACH OUT JUST TO TALK TO SOMEBODY, UM, IT'S 100% ANONYMOUS AND THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. THEY KNOW WHO TO CALL, AND THAT'S THAT'S WITHIN THE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. RIGHT THAT'S THAT IS YES, IT'S A RESILIENCY GROUP IS WHAT WE USE. SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT, AND THEN WHAT KIND OF PROGRAMMING DO WE HAVE THE KIND OF SUPPORT MENTAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL HEALTH FOR OFFICERS. SO WITHIN THE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF. IT IS SO AS AS FAR AS PHYSICAL HEALTH. I WILL TELL YOU THIS, UM WE DON'T HAVE A WORKOUT FACILITY IN OUR STATION. UM SPEAKING ABOUT SINCE WE ALREADY DISCUSSED ASSET FORFEITURE STUFF. HAVE APPROVED OUR, UM OFFICERS TO GO OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED AND WE WOULD PAY FOR IT OUT OF ASSET FORFEITURE. AND THEN HOW'S IT IN OUR SALLY PORT? YEAH SO THAT IT WILL GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY. I WILL SAY THIS THAT UM, EVERY OFFICER HAS AN HOUR ON THEIR SHIFT THAT THEY CAN UM, GETTING YOUR WORKOUT CLOTHES AND GO WORK OUT FOR THAT HOUR AND COME OUT AND IT'S IN. IT'S A PAID TIME. UM IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY I'M NOT SURE WHICH CITY MANAGER ALLOWED US TO DO THAT, BUT IT'S GREAT.

UM AS FAR AS THE MENTAL ASPECT OF IT, UM, YOU HAVE, UM, I THINK THAT'S COMPANION OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE THAT YOU CAN TALK TO, AND IT'S MEANT TO BE ANONYMOUS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS.

AND I DON'T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT. UM, SO WE HAVE THOSE TENANTS. IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING MORE. AS WE PROGRESS. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UH ONE OF THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP. AND YOU KNOW NO. ONE DAY I WAS DRIVING. THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WAS APPROACHING THE STREET I WAS ON WAS PERPENDICULAR TO AN ALLEY.

AND I HAD TO SLAM DOWN ON MY BREAKS BECAUSE A KID FLEW OUT IN FRONT OF ME ON A FOUR WHEELER.

YOU KNOW WHAT FLYING TURNED AROUND? AND SO I GUESS, UM, YOU KNOW, DO WE DO WE GET A LOT OF CALLS? DO WE GET YOU KNOW WHAT THE CALLS ARE MADE, I GUESS KIND OF WHAT'S WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL? AS FAR AS WHAT I MEAN, WHAT THE DEPARTMENT CAN DO IN THOSE INSTANCES. I MEAN, I CALLED ONCE AND ACTUALLY FROM A DISTANCE. KIND OF FOLLOW. THE GUY AROUND WAS KIND OF WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO SHOW UP AND SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IN THERE. BUT YOU KNOW HOW OFTEN DO WE GET CALLS AND SO WHAT CAN THE DEPARTMENT DO WHEN THEY GET THOSE CALLS ON THE ON THE A. T.

V S IN THE ROADWAYS? ALORS? YES SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY CALLS WE'VE HAD, SINCE I GUESS THE PREVIOUS TIME WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS MIGHT BE HOW MANY REPORTS ARE ACTUALLY MADE THAT I DON'T KNOW, EITHER WITHOUT LOOKING INTO IT. I WILL SAY THIS, UM. WHEN WE RECEIVE A CALL FOR SERVICE, IT'S CATEGORIZED ABOUT PRIORITY. AND OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH A MAJOR DISTURBANCE OR THAT'S HOLDING, THAT'S GONNA BE PRIORITY OVER ANYTHING ELSE BELOW THAT IF IT'S AN A T V OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. AND SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW BUSY THE OFFICERS ARE. IN REGARDS TO OUR RESPONSE TIME TO THAT AREA. UM AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE GET THERE. THESE ATVS ARE GONE. WE DON'T SEE THEM. WE HAVE TO SEE THEM OR THE PERSON THAT THEY CAN GIVE US SOME SOME GOOD INFORMATION ON. HEY, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. MAYBE WE CAN TRACK IT DOWN AT THAT POINT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING I DID HEAR THE CITIZEN COMMENTS. I MADE NOTES OF IT. I'M GOING TO LOOK INTO IT TOMORROW AND GET WITH OUR PERSONNEL TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW MANY OF THESE CALLS WE HAD AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO HOPEFULLY PUT A STOP TO IT. BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE WE DID.

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE CAUGHT THEM. WE CITED THEM AND IT WAS DONE. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S COMING BACK TO GET COMING BACK UP AGAIN. I APPRECIATE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY OBVIOUSLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY NOT GONNA ERADICATE. BUT YOU KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING TO DISCOURAGE A LOT OF TIME THESE KIDS RUN FROM US TO, UM AND THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS THESE KIDS GET HURT FROM RUNNING FROM US? THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. SINGLE COMMENTS . QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF. THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT. I'M SORRY. WHAT? I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK, MR MAYOR. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM CHIEF DOGANER APPRECIATE WHAT THE DUMBBELL POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES. I KNOW THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS HAVE BEEN ROLL. ROUGH YEAH, AND STUFF. BUT YOU YOU ALL RESPONDED. AND YOU KNOW THE CHARACTER OF THE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD BE. SO THANK YOU. WELL AND I'LL

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GIVE YOU GUYS 11 THING THAT THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY OUR OFFICERS WENT TO A PERSON. UM WITH A GUN TO HIS HEAD. UM RECENTLY AND TALKED HIM DOWN. AND UH, TOOK HIM TO GO GET HELP. SO IT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE PASSION THAT THEY HAD FOR HELPING PEOPLE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHIEF. WE BEGAN TO ITEMS 60 RATES SEE THE FISCAL

[6.C. Receive the Fiscal Year 2023-2024 First Quarter Investment Report as of December 31, 2023.]

YEAR 2023 24 1ST QUARTER INVESTMENT REPORT AS OF DECEMBER 31ST OF 2023. HAWKINS FLOOR IS YOURS. WE LOST SOUND ALL OF A SUDDEN. PUSH THE BUTTON. PROTESTING GOT IT. OKAY GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR. UM, WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT THE FIRST QUARTER INVESTMENT REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR. 24 AND I HAVE HERE, MR 10 PINION, WHO IS FROM OUR INVESTMENT GROUP VALLEY VIEW? UM I WILL GIVE HIM THE FLOOR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE. SO YOU'RE HERE TO HERE TO PRESENT THE FIRST QUARTER INVESTMENT REPORTS TO YOU, UM. SO THE FIRST PAGE IS JUST A COMPARISON OF THE PORTFOLIO BALANCE, AND SO, UH, AS WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER DURING THE FINANCIAL PRESENTATION. FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR IS A GOOD YEAR FINANCIALLY BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE PROPERTY TAXES COMING IN, SO THIS IS VERY TYPICAL TO SEE THOSE BALANCES INCREASE, WHICH THEY DID HIGHLIGHTED THE INVESTMENT RETURN ON THE PORTFOLIO, WHICH IS 5.26% WE LIKE TO MEASURE THAT AGAINST A COUPLE OF BENCHMARKS BEING THE THREE MONTH TREASURY BILL, THE SIX MONTH TREASURY BILL AND TEXT POOL UH, AND SO VERY CLOSE TO THOSE SOLD AGAIN.

WE'VE HAD STILL A VERY RAPIDLY RISING INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT . IT IS STARTING TO STABILIZE A LITTLE BIT, SO WE EXPECT THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT NUMBER OF CLOSE IN TOWARDS IN LINE WITH THOSE BENCHMARK TOTALS THE INTEREST INCOME FOR THE FIRST QUARTER, CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS AT 968,000. 614 ON THAT EARNED ON THE 79.9 MILLION. AND THEN JUST TO LOOK AT THE YIELD CURVE GIVES US KIND OF AN INDICATION OF WHAT THE MARKET IS ANTICIPATING FOR INTEREST RATES IN THE FUTURE, AND THE INTERESTING THING ON THIS ONE IS THE RED LINE, AND THE BLUE LINE ARE DECEMBER SEPARATED BY ONE YEAR DECEMBER OF 23 VS DECEMBER OF 22 AND OTHER THAN THE SHORT TERM WRITING SAY THEY'RE ALMOST IDENTICAL, SO IT KIND OF ROSE UP FOR A LITTLE BIT. IT CAME BACK TO WHERE IT IS NOW, BUT ON THE OVERNIGHT RATES ARE WHERE THAT DIFFERENCE IS, UH, IS NOTICED BECAUSE THE RATES AROUND 4.5% PREVIOUS YEAR NOW THERE ARE AROUND FIVE AND A QUARTER TO 5.5. SO YOU SEE THAT ON THE SHORT END, BUT LONGER TERM, THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT RATES ARE GOING TO START TO COME BACK DOWN AT SOME POINT. MORE AROUND THE 4% RIGHT FROM WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. THIS WAS KIND OF AN INTERESTING SLIDE TO LOOK AT. JUST BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE YOU KNOW THE EXPERTS ARE EXPECTING, AND IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT CHANGES FROM QUARTER TO QUARTER. SO THREE MONTHS AGO, THE COMMON THOUGHT WAS RIGHTS ARE GOING TO BEGIN TO DECLINE IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR AND THAT BY THE END OF 2024, WE'RE GOING TO BE CLOSE TO 4% ON THE OVERNIGHT RATES ARE MOVING FROM THE CURRENT RATE OF AROUND FIVE AND A QUARTER TO 5.5 EXPECTATIONS WHERE WE WERE GOING TO GO DOWN TO 4% THERE WERE SOME INFLATION NUMBERS THAT CAME OUT LAST WEEK. THEY WERE HIGHER THAN WHAT THE FED WAS HOPING TO SEE. AND THAT KIND OF PUSHED TO THIS BACK. SO WHEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE NOW, WHAT'S EXPECTED IS RATHER THAN A CUT IN MARCH. NOW THEY'RE SAYING MAYBE MAY OR JUNE IS WHEN THE FIRST CUT WOULD TAKE PLACE. AH AND THEY'RE STILL THINKING THAT WE'LL GET DOWN TO 4% BY JANUARY OF 25. SO IN GENERAL KIND OF STILL GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION, BUT, UM, THE JUST THE STUBBORNNESS OF GETTING INFLATION DOWN HAS KIND OF PUT A PAUSE ON SEEING RATES COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT LOWER. AND THEN HERE JUST A COUPLE OF KEY ECONOMIC DATA POINTS. UH SO AGAIN FED FUNDS EXPECTED TO STAY IN THE CURRENT RANGE. IN SOME WAYS THAT'S NICE STABILITY IS GOOD. THE MARKET LIKES STABILITY . EMPLOYMENT REMAINS STRONG, SO THAT'S REALLY ALLOWED THE FED TO KEEP THE RIGHTS HIGHER. UH JANUARY REPORTS THERE WERE WE ADDED 353,000, AND WHAT WAS EXPECTED WAS 180,000. SO QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN THAT UNEMPLOYMENT RATES AT 3.7% SO THAT'S STILL A GOOD UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. HOUSING IS KIND OF A MIXED STORY. THE 30 YEAR MORTGAGE RATE IS 6.63. SO THAT'S HAVING AN IMPACT ON BUYERS. OBVIOUSLY UM,

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EXISTING HOMES, IT'S INTERESTING . THE MEDIAN PRICE HAS GONE UP YEAR OVER YEAR 4.4. AND THERE'S KIND OF A SHORTAGE OF INVENTORY. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU'RE IN A HOUSE WITH A 3% MORTGAGE, AND YOU'RE A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO SELL IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUYING A HOUSE, AND NOW YOUR INTEREST RATE IS DOUBLE WHAT IT WAS BEFORE, SO YOU'RE LESS LIKELY TO SELL, SO IT'S KIND OF CAUSING THE PRICES OF EXISTING HOMES TO GO UP INTERESTING NEW HOMES. THEIR MEDIAN PRICES DOWN 14. YEAR OVER YEAR. SO AGAIN, THAT'S THAT IMPACT OF THOSE HIGHER MORTGAGE RATES. IT IS HAVING AN IMPACT ON THE COST OF NEW HOMES, GDP HAS REMAINED REALLY STRONG, EVEN WITH THE HIGHER INTEREST RATES, SO THE FOURTH QUARTER THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD COME IN AT 2% AND SO THE ADVANCED ESTIMATE THAT WAS FOURTH QUARTER CAME IN AT 3.3. SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE THE MARKET AND A LOT OF PLACES LOOKS GOOD THAT ALLOWS THE FED TO KEEP THE RIGHTS UP AND NOT FEEL LIKE THEY'VE GOT A LOWER RATES QUICKLY TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY, AT LEAST NOT YET. YET. AND THEN INFLATION DOES CONTINUE TO BE A LITTLE BIT STUBBORN.

IT'S STILL AT 3.4% YEAR OVER YEAR. THE TARGET IS 2. SO IT'S ABOUT STILL STILL SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY WANT CORE CPI, WHICH IS WHERE YOU TAKE OUT FOOD AND ENERGY 3.9. LOOKING AT THE CITY'S PORTFOLIO, SO RIGHT NOW, 24% OF THE PORTFOLIO IS IN CDS AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE BAR CHART ON THE RIGHT. UM, THOSE ARE INVESTED IN 30 IN THE 30 TO 90 DAY TIMEFRAME, AND THEN YOU SEE THE AMOUNT THAT'S INVESTED NIGHT, YOU 180 DAYS. RIGHT NOW, THE CITY IS KEEPING IT. IT'S VERY SHORT TERM INVESTMENTS, A LOT OF OVERNIGHT AND LIQUID FUNDS, WHICH YOU'RE REALLY NOT GIVING UP ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. INTEREST WISE BECAUSE THE LITTLE SHORTER END IS WHERE THE RIGHTS ARE HIGHER. UM IN TIME, IT WILL PROBABLY BE GOOD TO BEGIN TO TRANSITION, SOME OF THE FUNDS OUT FURTHER ON THE LADDER TO LOCK UP RIGHTS. AND THEN THIS IS A LOOK AT HOW THE CITY'S PORTFOLIO IS DONE AGAINST TEXT POOL AND THE ROLLING THREE MONTHS AND SO, UM, THE BLUE LINE IS THE CITY'S AVERAGE. MOST OF THE TIME WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE A RETURN HIGHER THAN THOSE YIELDS, BUT AGAIN AND QUICKLY RISING RISING INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT. HE YOU JUST YOU TEND TO TRAIL DURING THAT PERIOD, BUT THEN YOU WANT TO SET UP SO THAT WHEN THEY DO COME BACK DOWN ONCE AGAIN, YOU'RE STAYING AHEAD. OF THOSE. THOSE BENCHMARK RATES. A COUPLE OF THINGS ON ASPECTS AS FAR AS WHAT'S IN THE PORTFOLIO. I KNOW THERE'S ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT ON THE TOP PART. THOSE ARE THE LIQUID FUNDS, THE KIND OF ABOVE THAT BREAK SO, UH, DENISE WAS TALKING WITH ME JUST BEFORE WE CAME IN HERE AND SO WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES AND SIGNERS AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN LINED UP, SO FUNDS ARE GOING TO MOVE OUT OF PROSPERITY AT 3. THOSE WILL BE RE ALLOCATED INTO SOME OF THE HIGHER RATES SO THAT WILL HELP THE CITY ON HIGHER RIGHT THERE. UM I HAD A COUPLE OF CDS THAT WERE A LITTLE BIT LOWER. I MEAN, FOR AMAZINGLY AT RATES ABOVE 5% NOW, SO YOU HAD A COUPLE OF CDS THREE CDS THAT WERE BELOW 5% 1 OF THOSE MATURED LAST MONTH. IN JANUARY, THE 17TH. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TWO MORE THAT ARE MATURING IN APRIL, SO THOSE WILL COME OFF THERE WAS A LIKELY BE REPLACED WITH HIGHER EARNING INVESTMENT, SO THAT WILL ALSO HELP THE CITY'S PORTFOLIO. RETURN RATE OF RETURN. COME UP. AND THEN THIS IS JUST IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING ENVIRONMENT TO BE INVESTING IN. NORMALLY YOU'VE GOT AN UPWARD SLOPING YIELD CURVE, SO THAT IF YOU'VE GOT FUNDS TO INVEST OUT YOU WANT TO PUT IT OUT? KIND OF AT THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD. JUST KIND OF BUILD THAT LADDER. BUT RIGHT NOW YOU'RE GIVING UP YIELD BY GOING OUT LONGER, SO THE SIX MONTH RANGE THE BEST RAISE AROUND 5.5% OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON COMPETITIVE CEDIS. 12 MONTHS YOU'RE AT 5.1% 18 MONTHS. YOU'RE LOCKING OUT THAT UP THE RIGHT LONGER, BUT IT'S AT 4.62. AND AT THAT POINT, THE BANKS ARE STARTING TO PULL BACK. THEY DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO PAST A YEAR. SORT OF LOOKING AT US TREASURY AND US AGENCY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO INVEST IN YOU KIND OF SEE THE QUANDARY. THERE'S LIKE HOW MUCH YOU GIVE UP YIELD, BUT YOU LOCK UP AND SO, UM, THERE'S SOME THINGS WE CAN DO TO KIND OF LOOK AT DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY THE FED DROPS RATES TO LOOK AT. WHAT'S THE BEST BALANCE TO GO BETWEEN? YOU'RE TYING UP SOME FUNDS FOR LONGER TERM. BUT THEN KEEPING SOME FUNDS SHORTER AND JUST GOING AHEAD AND CAPTURING THE HIGHER SHORT TERM RIGHTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. SO THAT'S THAT'S A SNAPSHOT OF THE CITY'S FIRST QUARTER IN ANY QUESTIONS. GOT A COUPLE FOR YOU GO BACK. I THINK IT'S UH 74. YEAH, KEEP GOING. THE SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOULD WE BURN $968,000 IN INTEREST WAS THAT YOU'RE VERY THERE, RIGHT? YEAH THAT ONE RIGHT THERE TRYING TO RELATE THAT NUMBER IN TERMS OF QUARTERLY INTEREST INCOME. AND THEN RELATING THAT TO THE

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SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOWED THE LIQUID INVESTMENTS. HOW MUCH OF THAT 968,000 IS COMING FROM THE LIQUID INVESTMENTS FROM SOME THINKING OF A LIQUID INVESTMENTS MEANS THAT'S CORPORATE LIKE CORPORATE LIQUIDITY. IF WE NEEDED TO PULL THOSE WE COULD IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE CITY MANAGER DETERMINING BUDGET FOR 2425. THE LIQUIDITY AVAILABILITY OF THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CONSIDER TO BE LIQUID VERSUS THE OTHERS? YEAH PROBABLY THERE ANYWAY, TO DETERMINE DO YOU KNOW RIGHT OFF HAND OF THAT, 968,000. HOW MUCH CAME OUT OF THOSE LIQUID ACCOUNTS? YEAH YEAH, THOSE RIGHT THERE AT THE TOP OF THE CHART. YOU CAN TELL THE TOP HALF. I COULD MAYBE BALLPARK IT JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT IT. SO YOU'VE GOT 5158. 5859 CLOSE TO 60. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE FANS ARE WHAT WE CALL LIQUID, WHICH MEANS IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE ON A DAILY BASIS. SO 60 OF YOUR 79 MILLION LET ME FIND THE PIE CHART TO THAT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD SO THIS IS REALLY A GOOD CHOICE. SO WHAT'S IN GRAIN? THAT'S THOSE ARE YOUR IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE FUNDS. OKAY AND WHAT'S IN BLUE? THOSE ARE INVESTED AND THEY'RE NOT OUT FOR A REAL LONG TIME.

THEY'RE YOUR LONGEST INVESTMENTS ARE GOING OUT SIX MONTHS RIGHT NOW. SO THE MAJORITY OF YOUR FUNDS 76% OF YOUR FUNDS, YOU'VE GOT DAILY ACCESS TO RIGHT, NOT SAYING THAT THE PAR VALUES SYNONYMOUS WITH THE INTEREST INCOME. AND. GO BACK BECAUSE YOU GET THAT SHIP. LET'S SEE. UM.

RUNWAY. OKAY SORRY ABOUT THAT. YOU SHOWED THAT THEY'RE HERE. SO, YEAH. YOU JUST DID THE MENTAL MATH ON THIS ONE COMING UP WITH THE PAR VALUE, BUT I WAS LOOKING AT HOW MUCH OF THE PAR VALUE WOULD GENERATED THAT $968,000 IN INTEREST. SO THEY'RE ALL LEARNING INTEREST AND IT ACCRUES MONTHLY. UH AND SO, UM. BUT I'M NOT SURE IF I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, I GUESS WHAT'S ROLLING AROUND THE BACK OF THIS COMPUTER IS HOW MUCH OF THAT MONEY CAN WE PUT OUR HANDS ON? IF WE REALLY NEEDED IT OF THAT 968,000 INTEREST 6% OF IT. YOU CAN PUT YOUR HANDS ON RIGHT NOW HAS ALL LIQUID, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M TRYING TO RELATE THE PAR VALUE TO THE INTEREST INCOME THAT THESE THAT THESE GENERATED FOR US IN TERMS OF GRABBING THE INTEREST AND THE POSSIBLE POWER VALUE FOR THE USE OF THE BUDGET. SO AND THE PAR VALUE ONE NICE THING ABOUT CDS IS THE PAR VALUE IS ALSO THE MARKET VALUE OF THE BOOK, THE BOOK. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SECURITIES IN THERE RIGHT NOW. SO IN THAT CASE DEPENDING ON WHAT INTERESTS HIS INTEREST RATES MOVE. THE MARKET VALUE IN YOUR POWER VALUE CAN ADJUST. SO THAT IS THAT'S WHAT THE CITY HAS. OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WITH A CD, THERE'S A PRE PAYMENT PENALTY IF YOU TAKE THEM OUT EARLY TOUCH. DON'T TOUCH ME. YEAH YEAH, UNLESS YOU REALLY HAVE TO. YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO WRITE. REALLY THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY'S FUNDS ARE IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE, UM GOING TO THE NUMBER 75. THESE ARE NATIONAL STATISTICS. IS THERE ANY WAY TO MODIFY SO WE COULD LOOK AT THIS? MAYBE NORTH TEXAS REGIONAL OR TEXAS? UM I'M GOING BACK TO SOME COMMENTS LIKE OUR GOVERNOR HAS SAID, IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THE GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS ALONE AS A WORLD ECONOMY, IT RANKS NUMBER EIGHT IN THE WORLD. AND THINKING. IF THESE DAYS IF THIS DATA THAT YOU'RE SHOWING US IS NATIONAL WOULD IT BE MORE RELEVANT TO US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR NORTH TEXAS? OR OR OR AS A TEXAS GDP AND THOSE KINDS OF DATA? YEAH, I THINK THE MAIN IT COULD IT COULD. I THINK THAT THE MAIN THING HERE IS JUST KIND OF GIVE AN OVERALL PICTURE OF JUST KIND OF THE OVERALL ECONOMY JUST KIND OF THE GENERAL TERMS, BECAUSE THE WHAT'S I GUESS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS WHAT'S GOING TO MOVE THE FED BECAUSE WHAT THE FED DOES IS GOING TO IMPACT DUNCANVILLE AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO DRIVE THAT NOT NECESSARILY OFF OF WHAT TEXAS OR CALIFORNIA IS DOING. IT'S GOING TO BE THEY'RE LOOKING AT KIND OF THE NATIONAL PICTURE, SO WE'RE KIND OF GOING WITH WHAT'S THE FED LOOKING AT WHAT'S GOING TO MOTIVATE THEM TO MOVE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, SO WE'VE GOT THE ECONOMIC ENGINE GOING IN TEXAS. IT'S LIKE NOBODY'S EVER SEEN ANYTHING BEFORE. THAT'S WHY I SAY YES. YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TEXAS GDP VERSUS THE NATIONAL ECONOMIC DATA. UM THEY'RE NOT DICHOTOMOUS, BUT THEY CERTAINLY TALK TO EACH OTHER IN TEXAS AFFECTS THE NATIONAL. YEAH YEAH. AND THEN WHAT? THE BUT WITHIN? YEAH, SO WHAT THE FED DOES DOES IMPACT TEXAS IN THAT? YOU KNOW THOSE HIGHER INTEREST RATES EVEN AS WELL AS WE'RE DOING IT DOWN.

IT PUTS A DAMPER ON ECONOMIC GROWTH WHEN YOU'VE GOT THOSE HIGHER INTEREST RATES, SO OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. I'M NOT LOOKING AT LIGHTS. I'M LOOKING AT PEOPLE NOW. OKAY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE EVERYONE. OKAY WE STILL HAVE ONE EXECUTIVE SESSION

[Executive Session (Part 2 of 2)]

TO DO. SO I'M GOING TO RECESS. OUR CITY COUNCIL SESSION. CITY SECRETARY OF THE TIMESTAMP IS 854.

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THERE ARE BACK ON. WE ARE RECONVENING. CITY COUNCIL TIME STAMP ON THAT IS GONNA BE 948.

[5.A. Take any necessary action as a result of the Executive Session.]

AND GOING ON TO ITEM. 58. I HAVE LOOK FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, TAKING THE NECESSARY ACTION TO TAKE SESSION . THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN AS A RESULT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR ITEMS 12 AND THREE OF THE AGENDA WITH THE CONCLUSION OF ALL OF OUR CITY VISITS NIGHT. WE ARE CLOSING, UH, WE ARE JOURNEYING TONIGHT'S CI

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